Trafic | Vivaro | Primastar - 2.0 dci EGR Valve Removal
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- A comprehensive step by step guide to removing the EGR valve on a 2.0 dci Trafic, Vivaro, or Primastar; featuring Lucy and her self converted camper van.
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"woman does full frontal strip for kinky pipe, EGR action"
I managed to do this job by removing only the first part of the front of the vehicle. Then removing the intercooler. Tight to get in, but dooable with 1/4" drive set and various adapters. I removed the throttle body first, which makes the bolts for the corrugated pipe more accessible. Someone else suggested removing the dipstick tube, which I couldn't do as bolt rusted out. Still managed to do the job. Once I had the ERG valve out, I removed the top cover, slid off the intermediate gear, which allowed manual opening of the valve - to facilitate cleaning it properly. Get a gasket set! Van behaving much better now!
Great video. Thank you, I used this to help me replace my starting motor (and thought I'd clean the EGR valve while I was at it).
Good work. Hopefully all went well 😁
Thx guys. Was off bank holiday Monday so decided to replace the egret valve on our traffic. Was an engine light on a d mechanic said it was egr valve but couldn't do it for couple of weeks. Well said I, it cant be that hard! Started at 9.30 and had it all back together by 2.30. Including tea breaks😉. Your tutorial was a lifesaver. Hope you're both well. Thumbs up.👍👍
Cheers! Glad the video was helpful and hopefully your van is fixed now. All is well at this end. We’re actually going to have to take all the front off again soon to fit a starter motor. Chuffin’ thing… haha! 👍
thanks for this video, i also have problems with the EGR valve. The video is clear and calm, it helped me a lot.
My van 07 could not go over 2500 revs, I manageged to clean the very clogged EGR. After putting everything back the van struggled to turn on and also showed engine light. I panicked thinking I messed it up. But after persistent tries it turned on, I noticed it has more power and revs work normally. Thanks to your video.
Firstly, well done to Lucy. What a very capable young lady. Then, thank you for such a comprehensive guide. I wish someone would do the same for my Fiat Ducato x250 3 litre 2008 van/moho as although the EGR is on the top/rear top of the engine, the bolts are an absolute pig to get at. Would need Lucy's hands to get in there, lol. I'm considering putting in a blanking plate at the bottom of the "kinky pipe" effectively removing the EGR from the system. Well done, I see you fixed yours with new injectors. Not sure if you did them yourselves as they can be a nightmare to remove, due to being stuck in with corrosion. Cheers, Chris.
Ha, thanks. Lucy says thanks too! Most cars and vans these days seem like a pig to access. They’re not designed to be worked on. I guess so people take them to the dealer to fix? Anyway... we didn’t do the injectors ourselves. We took the van to a specialist with some specific kit for the job. As for your EGR blanking, if it doesn’t throw up error codes then do it. I did my old VW Transporter and it made a world of difference 👍
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Was a great help to me.
Hey, no problem. Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching 👍
Great video. True Yorkshire lass
, gets stuck in. Manages to keep clean though.
this video was a great help for me and gave me alot of peace of mind. thanks very much :)
Fair play to you for getting stuck in iv just bought one of these vans thinking It was the 1.9 engine without knowing it was the 2.0 that needed a starter motor change 😢🤣
Brilliant video well done to you both x
Guys a Absolute LIFESAVER ❤
Thank you for taking the time to do this. Tutorial!
Thanks for the upload was very helpful, just had to change the alternator, and stripped and cleaned the EGR at the same time. A couple of points that i found gave better access...At 16:20 , remove the 2 bolts as you did, but also undo the 4 that hold that bracket to the EGR, and remove it, the egr will then split in two, you can then remove the LH side of it. Then remove the bolt that holds the oil dipstick tube, and gently twist and pull up, the dipstick tube has an 0 ring at the bottom to seal it into the block, the dipstick tube will pop out, you then have good access to both ends of the kinky pipe. The remaining RH side of the EGR can then be removed as in the video, i found once cracking the bolts they can be undone with a 10mm socket with a UJ and a couple of extensions.
Loved watching this with the kids.
Daughter commented on lack of hair clips and gloves at the start though!
I can clean and replace the egr on my Avensis in less time than it takes to remove a radiator on the Trafic!
Hope it doesn't need replacing much.
Ha, me too! Nightmare of a job... Really glad you and the kids enjoyed the video though. That’s great to hear 👍👍
@@MechitBetter BTW: That plug near the Horn, I think that's for the Road Lights, I've got them on my 2013 Renault Trafic, great for annoying oncomming drivers in their small cars.
Great video,keep them coming.
Cheers! Glad you liked it 👍👍
The plug dangling is for external temp gauge which when connected shows outside temp on display in cab
My Vauxhall 2.0 Movano was in limp mode and had an ERG unit with some grey sludge in it - erg cooler had a tiny leak. Had to leave it cooler plugged into a garden hose for 30 mins to get a tiny drop of water in cooler. If buying a cooler for older type van, be very careful as there are 2 types - the water pipe on left of cooler can be in 2 positions - pointing to front of van and to rear. Get the correct one :)
Thank you for this tutorial
Hi I had the same problem with my traffic, if I undid the water trap in the bottom of the fuel filter it would be ok for a while. In the end I traced it to a leaking fuel pipe it had a a pinhole leak in it just before the injector pump. I cut the pipe and rejoined it up with a bit of flexible fuel pipe and all is well. Hope this helps. Cheers john
Great video, starting this on a Renault Master 2010.. Even more difficult because the EGR is water cooled from the Rad
Yikes… Good luck! Thanks for watching 👍
Just took out and cleaned the EGR valve in my 2004 Renault Trafic. Didn't need to take the front off at all, so much easier and the injectors are well hidden from any water leaks too. You're right the 1.9 is an easier engine.
You can delete the egr on the 1.9 just by removing and refitting the wrong way around which blanks it off.
Very useful video - thanks! I've just done this job on our 2008 Renault Trafic. You can make the job a bit quicker and easier by just loosening the front panel and rotating it 90 degrees to the driver's side (which saves you having to remove the bonnet catch), and the kinky pipe bottom junction is easy enough to remove and re-attach if you first remove the dipstick tube (1 X 8mm bolt, then it pulls out of the way).
Thanks. Anything to make the job easier sounds good!
@@MechitBetter - Adding to the excellent information already provided.
Use a set of ratchet with cardan connection and appropriate extensions for those hard to reach places. If you add an electric screw driver to assist. Not only this two details make your life easier, but make it way faster. ;-)
With the right set of tools at hand and working solo. I reach the same stage in about 15 to 20 minutes, without breaking a sweat.
Example: Replace those dreadful Torx L shape tool, by decent "screw driver handle" Torx. Save a considerable amount of "swearing".
At the same time the OEM bolts you replaced are Torx, at the center. But with "hex" sides! So you can use both, Torx and sockets, spanners, etc... It's worth understand the "tech" behind something, before senseless bashing out. So quite wasteful move to downgrade them with "normal" hex bolts! Hmm! LOL 😂
Thanks for the additional info and tool tips. Much appreciated. Give us some credit though, the plastic trim fixings we replaced were torx centred only with round sides. If they’d had hex sides on them, we’d have had no trouble.
Hello, I have a question: Is it possible to seal the EGR without removing it outside?
The 2 wires you found under the bumper connect to spotlights on the Sportiv model, I've gone further than you and taken engine out and replaced clutch, various hoses and pipes, now to get it running again.
Nice work Lucy......I would just like to say for anyone who needs to do it that if the starter motor needs replacing you have to do this same procedure in order to get to it in the middle of engine , but you will also need to remove the radiator and move the AC rad out of the way on its long rubber hoses , i did mine last month and its a pain......cheers
Thanks. It is indeed a pain!
Nice video from Yorkshire. I’m panicking now. Well done.
Ha, yeah! What’s the panic about?
West Yorkshire by the sounds of it?
Very entertaining and useful thanks :-)
This was great, thanks.
Cheers 👍
@@MechitBetter How long did it take to get the front off roughly? I'm going to the clutch on mine and although it's not strictly necessary to take the front off I've read it makes the job easier.
That cable is for a temp sensor which is located on the back of the bumper.
Because of your video, Ive saved myself £400 (that is how much the garage quotes). Also, to make your life easier, when undo the bolts on tbe kinky pipe (catching on 😉), take out the oil dip stick pipe. Thanks a bunch.
Nice one! Glad to hear the video was useful and saved you a bunch. Thanks for the kinky pipe tip 🤣
to be fair while your in there allowing for cost its worth doing the starter motor and the EGR cooler which will fail and seize and the egr valve the cooler is especially important as it can lead to catastrophic engine damage . my cooler seized and i replaced it so i put a new starter and egr valve on it at the same time.
Lucy you are a star.
Cheers Derek 👍
Ok mate cheers 👍
i actually followed this video to remove my 2014 2.0 sport egr valve .i managed to do it leaving front bumper on .also bolts for egr are different from this model.i shouldve shown a video but anyone wanting advice message back .well done mech it better for giving me a headstart in removing my one 👍
Cheers! I think it’s one of those jobs that can be done in a few different ways depending on what tools you have and how dexterous you are. We definitely did this the long way, but if it helps people get their heads around the job then good stuff. Hope you got yours sorted 👍
Mech it Better .the egr looked not too bad but the metal bendy pipe had brownish gunge in it.not sure if that was the problem but it might have been as that would then get to the dpf.so it might be i need a dpf regen 🤷♀️
Aye possibly. It’s hard to diagnose these vans I think. Fingers crossed for you though!
I'm actually watching to do my 2011i have no power at all only rev up to 2500 an that's it go about 20mph at full rev
@@orlandobritish6528 check maf sensor.it will be that
Hi. Great video, very informative and well explained. Any chance you still have your van as i need some advice how to replace the drivers seat cushion please?
thank you for showing the video.i reckon my egr valve needs cleaning.as youve said it looks a nitemare.
Thanks guys great job.
Thanks! 👍
Outside temp sensor plug I believe for ambient air temperature, don’t hold me to that tho but either that or if you have one the other side possibly for fog lights.
Cheers Alan. We’ve since determined that it’s for the fog lights 👍
Great video. Title: Lucy strips van in vest top!
interested if that plug is for front fog lamps - if so easy to add retro ones
That wire you asked what's it for. It's a redundant wire bur that wiring loom is used on other engines which have intake air temperature sensors. Which it would otherwise plug in
That plug is for temp sensor that's on the front bumper
Useful to see the layout, but it is not actually necessary to remove any of the front of the van to do this job! I managed to do it reasonably easily from above with a medium length 1/4" extension for the right hand lower 10mm (socket) bolt (feel it in there), and REMOVED THE 4x 8mm (socket) BOLTS THROUGH THE MOUNTING BRACKET FACE (as well as the two rear ones) to first separate the THROTTLE BODY from the EGR valve, this then allows easy access to the 10mm (socket) 'kinky' pipe top bolts to remove the EGR.
plugs are for spot lights
Mine was running really rough, had a flat spot like it was missing from 1800 - 2400 revs. With a tester saying a injector was down it was occassionly trying to cutout when on motorway in 5th or 6th with red engine light momentarily coming on. After a few weeks this got worse and worse until it was properly cutting out . So I had a injector done that was showing up on tester which incidentally was no4 even though it had been no 3 showing up initially 4 weeks before. This stopped the cutting out, but the missing felt worse and after a couple of weeks it got really bad so plugged in tester and it was showing no 3 injector so went and had it done, but still I could feel the missing/ flat spot. Plugged in tester now it was showing no 2 but instead of having it done, I took it to mates garage where I stripped down parts to the egr and just took the grill off (not lights or front panel stuff) then my mate with a really thin angled ratchet managed to get in and remove throttle body, egr and pipe to manifold. The throttle body looked fine, but the egr was gunked up and the pipe was pretty much blocked, cleaned it all out put it back together and now it is running fine no missing/flatspot at all economy is back up, even though it says no 2 is down. If no 2 is like the other injectors it will probably be ok for weeks, so im going to drive it as long as I can and then get the remaining 2 done at the same time. So in conclusion I think Kierans missus has been unlucky and its one of the injectors that havent been done thats causing the cutting out, and also if you are doing egr with the right tools you can get in there just taking off front grill bumpers 5 bolts. Also the 1.9 can have egr blocked off not this 2.0 model, spoke to a mapper guy who reckons it can be turned down in software though. Apart from the injector issue these are good vans for the money half the price of VW's which can have the same egr or maf general issues.
Sounds like you had the same issue. Taking off and cleaning this EGR made no difference to the running. It ended up being one of the injectors that was faulty. We’d already had two replaced but a third must have gone. Just waiting for the fourth one to go to complete the set. Currently, the van is running well on its 3 new injectors. Taking the front end off was a bit involved for sure. I had heard that it’s possible without stripping the van down so much, but I guess I didn’t have the right tools because I couldn’t seem to do it. It was much easier with the front off with my big hands haha 👍
Hi sounds like my issue all 4 new injectors and crank sensor got it running better, but i have a flat spot at 2200 RPM and some times cuts out for a second on hill if at full throttle. Changed cam sensor no change to the flat spot, changed Mass airflow sensor as this can tell the ecu that the egr is not working due to the air flow not registering and egr not meeting the conditions. changed the glow plugs. next step clean fuel filter and book in to get the EGR deleted, its not much more in cost and will take away the EGR side of running problems. mines a M9R 780 so just a software delete to force shut the EGR and with a re-tune comes in at £200. will update after delete good luck guys
The connector would provide power for front fog or spotlight on the lower bumper, if fitted
Thanks Emily 😀
@@MechitBetter yeah they are for front fogs. Im currently gona fit them to my vivaro
What symptoms advise that the egr needs cleaned ? Thanks
at a guess it will be for the fog lights that you don't have fitted
Cool. Thanks Michael 👍
Fog lights
Yes
Fit a catch can to keep egr clean. Mann Hummel filter.
The cable in front is for spotlights
An then..... Some one knocks the tub of bolts and the van lives in the garage for the next 11years 😄.
Grate work guys your braver than me. Lol
Ha! Cheers Duncan. We’re more daft than brave 😁
Hello, I have a question: Is it possible to seal the EGR without removing it outside?
Same problem here on my Nissan T31, changed pressure transducer, turbo sensor, air mass meter and the problem is still there, so I will change thr EGR valvw next. Another common problem, is that the particle filter is full...but this one is quite expensive...
Cheers Jan. This van is fixed now. It turned out to be faulty injectors. It needed three replacing 😢
@@MechitBetter oh no! How did you find out that it were the injectors?! 😱
If you take the gearbox control unit off the plugs do you have to reprogram the gearbox control unit with a scanner
Absolutely no idea I’m afraid 🤷🏼♂️
Just watching a 1 year old video so not sure if anyone answered your question about the loose plug. I would say it is the lower fog light connector. Some have fogs, some don't.
Cheers! I think you’re right, it’s the fog light connector for an absent foglight 😁
Dose any one know where the oil sensor location on a 2014 vivaro 2lt
Nice)!
great video i have to say i bought a renult trafic 2.0 new in 07 its just give up now but it had done 567,000 lol
Thanks Nigel. Congrats on your rocket ship mileage. That’s amazing!
by the sluge in the egr id say you had one or more faulty injectors xx
Cheers Rob. It was indeed the injectors 👍
The plug is for fog lights in the bumper
Great tutorial, why did you replace the EGR valve? What symptoms were you having please
One other simple thing i did for the same problem was clean the Mass air flow sensor, its a lot better and the fuel economy has increased dramatically. easier than full strip down of the engine lol
Thanks Alex. That was the first thing we tried but it didn’t help on this particular van 👍
Is it ok to clean the mass air flow sensor with carb cleaner? Mine is running fine but so easy to get to can only help it.
I think it’s not recommended. Carb cleaner leaves a residue. Electrical contact cleaner is what you need
What was the problem with the van? Mine is intermittently losing power every few seconds after a few miles. Feels like I'm abruptly taking my foot of the gas for a moment then putting it back on over and over again. Do you think a new egr valve will help
Great video,did you consider blanking/deleting the EGR?
I’m having same issues as you and think I’m going to blank it
Funny on my Laguna I can clean the egr and remount in about half hour 😂 still too much hastle I removed it completely and had a delete manifold made
Hi mate the plug on the front is for fog lights that integrate into the front bumper 👍
Thanks Peter. That’ll be it 👍
loved the way you showed how to remove the egr.ive got 2014 2.0 sport 115bhp trafic.i got the management light and spanner on sometime ago .its either on or off but still feels sluggish on take off regardless.im wondering if thats limp mode .i used to have the 1.9 dci 100 bhp and that also was on limp mode due to water ingress from scuttle panel which i think renault solved with the euro 5 and limp mode on that was awful.the van just doesnt seem to have the same acceleration as it used to .just wondering if youve came across thisbefore and do you think its egr problem i have . thank you
We’ve spent ages looking in to the Trafic/Vivaro problems. This van still doesn’t seem 100% to me. Doing research suggests it could be more or less anything from EGR to broken wiring harnesses to any number of faulty sensors. I hate to say it, but I think these dci models are just bad vans so unfortunately I can’t really point you in any particular direction other than a specialist with the relevant diagnosis software. It might save you a lot of time and hassle to have it looked it properly 🤷🏼♂️
on my dci1.9 i took that to arnold shark .they put it on a machine for 2 hours.charged me almost 200quid and still didnt know where the problem was.your total right these engines are a nitemare.im hoping it is the egr problem ive got.it feels it is as it all points to that .i really like the van and im willing to try n remedy it.just havent got the get up n go to do the work yet but looking at how much required to do to gain access to the egr i dont fancy asking a mech to do it as the price would be way out the roof!lol
We came to a similar conclusion with this one. Loads of owners reporting similar problems and nobody with a definite solution. People mostly just throw money at the problem and hope for the best as far as I can tell. Having said that, there are some common faults. The turbo pressure sensor and MAF sensor are known to be rubbish, and they can give these symptoms. Obviously EGR and EGR cooler problems. Vacuum pump problems can cause all kinds of misreadings on various sensors, so check that and as many vacuum pipes as you can find. They collapse internally or leak. The injectors on these are crap. We’ve had three replaced at great cost - which helped but I still don’t think it’s entirely 100%. It’s an ongoing battle 🤷🏼♂️
did you just clean your egr or replace it
Uhm.... from memory I think we cleaned the EGR and replaced the EGR cooler. I’ve slept since then though 😀
Did u find out what the problem was with the juddering no power up incline and dash lights flickering ???
bonjour combien de km véhicule svp merci
Jes thats a BIG job to take on just to clean the EGR. Do fluids like Forte Diesel Turbo Cleaner & EGR Valve Treatment not work?
i have a 2012 trafic 2.0 dci with injector fault and 3 garages i took her to there code readers cant pin point whats going on .. also dpf needs cleaning out.. had her 5 years she had brand new turbo over 2 years ago love driving her but worried about high repair costs now..
Great video, I’ve had similar issues to the ones you mentioned at the end.
Ive noticed from the comments that it was an injector issue, I’ve had 2 new injectors fitted and it has improved the running of the van but the problem persists!
I was thinking of replacing the other 2 as the mechanic stated that these are not running as efficiently as the new ones.
I was wondering if you replaced all the injectors on your van and if so is it all running okay now?
Thanks
Cheers. Thanks for watching. We’ve replaced three injectors so far, with an improvement each time. There are still days where the van feels a bit sluggish, so perhaps the fourth one needs doing also. If you do end up replacing all four of yours, let us know if it fixes the issue!!
@@MechitBetter thanks for the response.
It’s been a real head scratcher to try and find the fault, nothing comes up on a diagnostic test but I’ve been lucky as my mate has the same van so I’ve tried almost all the sensors thinking it must be one of them but still no luck. Like I said I had all the problems you had initially with the van feeling like it was misfiring almost and the stop and engine light coming on and sluggish especially uphill.
It’s much better now but still not right and the misfire only happens now and again but still sluggish, I’ve checked everything and I’m convinced it has to be the other 2 injectors, just costly if it doesn’t cure the problem. If I do replace the other 2 I’ll let you know how I get on 👍.
Yes agreed. An expensive thing to change if it’s not the issue. Sounds like you’ve covered all the other bases if you’ve swapped the sensors for known working ones. The only other thing some people suggested is that the wiring loom rubs through due to poor design. That can cause similar problems apparently. As you say, it’s a head scratcher 🤔
Just to let you know I’ve had the final 2 injectors replaced and the van is running much better 👍, it’s cost another £500 but at least it’s running better now. Thanks for your help.
No worries. Glad to hear you solved the mystery! Thanks for letting us know 👍👍
Hi mate what’s the procedure to remove the turbocharger on these engines please
Cheers
Hiya Peter. No idea I’m afraid. Never done it 👍
Have you changed the throttle body? I had same headache. Turned out it was that.
Cheers Liam. It turned out to be a faulty injector in the end. It’s doing alright now 👍
Have a van giving trouble like hell not revving pass 2000 rpm clean egr still same problem next I'll check throttle body thanks much
Just found out what was wrong with mine. The boost control valve must be faulty. Two pipes on it small pipe is vacuum, the bigger pipe is to the turbo actuator simply link the two together full boost all the time. Pulls like a train.
That cable is for fog light if you don't have those light on front bumper
Try replacing Suction control valve on injector pump. Or clean maf sensor. Mine is having same problem. It’s all trial and error.
Cheers. This video was a while ago! It turned out to be faulty injectors 👍
@@MechitBetter I’m Glad it’s fixed. Hope it doesn’t give you too much more trouble.
The wires are for fog lights
It could be the mass air sensor, replace with a genuine part from Euro Car Parts😎
Cheers Matt. It turned out to be a third faulty injector!
@@MechitBetter oh glad you sorted it. My vivaro 2.0d 2012 is hesitating at 2000 revs when you come off the gas slightly. Any ideas?
Unfortunately not. The vivaro is so hard to diagnose. Everything is computed by unreliable sensors, the injectors are prone to problems, and the wiring loom rubs through against the engine block. We spent months trying to diagnose this one at home. In the end we gave up and took it to a Vivaro specialist who did some real time checking of the engine data. It’s still not 100% perfect, but is much better than it was 🤷🏻♂️
I've a have experience of lost of power in my van I diagnosed it's a airflow or a egr
If your experiencing a lost of power
And only revs 2600rpm
Fault code p0235
Look at your map sensor reading if reading 50 on live data you've a broken wire, use a 501 bulb (normal parking light bulb to test on the map sensor connection
I NEED HELP i rebuild my townmate T50 and i face some promblems with cam timing it is really hard to put the front bolt (the one that holds the sprocket in place) please make a video on it it is going to be sooooo helpfull...if you want to i can send you some pics of my T50 it might help...thank youu for your time :)
Hi. Did you manage to get the bolt fixed? Feel free to send us some photos. You can find us on Facebook. Follow the link in this video description.
However, I’m unfamiliar with the sprocket setup. My Townmate is shaft driven, so it doesn’t have sprockets. Is yours the V50? The two-stroke version?
Fillthy Couple get greased up while fannying about with their kinky pipe, extra wires are likely for spotlights factory fitted on Sportive model.
fun fact the egr valve is implemented into a car to stop the engine from melting
I have the 2.0 vivaro (same van) I have had all 4 injectors replaced in the last 12 months (2 at a time) both times it has started with a very gentle miss then in the space of 2 weeks gone to being un-drivable, have the injectors tested to see what ohm each one is producing, (I think anything below 1500 is not good, failing that, air-flow metre or, the egr may need replacing. P. S. I hate these vans with a passion but spent too much on mine to get rid of it now! 😔 good luck
Same here Neil. Lucy has spent too much time and money to get rid of it now. I don’t think she’d have another one, and I certainly wouldn’t buy one after all the hassle with this one. Seems all these faults are not uncommon, and not cheap or easy to work on. She’s already had two injectors done (£800), so hopefully the other two aren’t on their way out! Is yours running as it should now?
From the missing point of view yes, but it's down on power until the turbo spools up so I'm trying to decide between air-flow and egr! Have I mentioned I hate my van😂
Just disconnected the air-flow metre and took it for a run, pulls like a train now👌
I’d say you’ve found your problem then! You’re lucky haha. We tried the same on Lucy’s van and it made no difference. We’ve got a second hand genuine replacement coming to see if it helps. I did find a guy on eBay who claims to have a brand new genuine one for sale if you want his details. Either way, I understand that the aftermarket ones are rubbish 🤷🏻♂️
I have had an aftermarket maf on for a good 6yr now with no problem
my Laguna coupé GT has 150,000miles on the clock and suffers from occasional flat spots. I know this sticking valve is my culprit but I just can't bring myself to disassemble the front end of my Laguna to do it lol
Renault design strikes again 🤣
@@MechitBetter it sure does but it could be worse.....it could be a VW 🤢
I have just done ERG and cooler - same problem - won't rev over 3000rpm and sluggish. Took for a spin and downshifted from third to second to force revs higher - Injector fault light came on :( How do I find which one is stuffed? I'm hearing nightmare stories about getting therm out due to rust. Did you get yours out easily?
We read the same nightmare stories as you, and then shipped the job out to a specialist with some high powered pneumatic thing designed to get injectors out. He also plugged the van in to the correct diagnostics tool and read the live data (I think) to diagnose which injectors were at fault. Truthfully we’ll have a go at most things but we just didn’t have the heart to face the injector job on this van. Sometimes you’ve gotta know when to quit 🤷🏼♂️
Mine turned out to be a failed turbo.
Later 2.0 engines have an egr cooler fitted. Just found out to my cost that part of the butterfly valve in the cooler is prone to snapping off and destroying the turbo! The engine light came on along with 'injection fault' on the dash and it threw up a P0299 code. Loads of white smoke and the turbo pipe to the intercooler collapsed when the engine was revved. Got to the egr but not the turbo yet, will let you know what a b.....d that is when i get there. The moral of my story is if you have a van with the later m9r engine and you hear a tinny rattle at the back of the engine, don't ignore it coz it isn't just a heat shield rattling its a bit of metal bouncing off the turbo vanes, if you're luck you might be able to get it out before it destroys the turbo!!!
Yikes! Sounds like a proper nightmare! Hope you get it sorted without too much hassle. Thanks for the warning though, and good luck!
Thanks. Great vid by the way, saved me loads of time hunting down all the bolts holding the front end on!
No worries. Glad it helped 👍👍
Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans, i never want to change a turbo on one of these ever again!!!!!
Try changing the fuel filter first, then if the problem persists it’s more than likely an injector issue, I had the same problem rev drops to 0 a warning light comes on then it’s back to normal again for ages but with what feels like less power, I had my injectors tested & 2 of them where breaking down under load 👎🏻 expensive repair for me but I would try a fuel filter first before removing the interiors
Thanks. The van had just had two faulty injectors replaced but was still presenting the problem, so we were looking at other things. Turned out to be a third faulty injector as you suggested. So currently the van is running ok having had that replaced. Just waiting for the fourth one to fail ha 👍
the 1.9cd/tdi takes 10mins too remove, it is on top of the engine, as part of the inlet/
And takes 10 mins to blank off
Those extra cables are for fog/ spotlights
Cheers Mark 👍👍
How comes you didnt blank the egr out ?
cue all the internet mechanics who will spout bs about how removing the egr wil ruin the engine....
props for removing the green motoring infiltration device...
Cheers Lez. Sorry to disappoint you but it’s going back on. It only came off for cleaning. The van won’t run without it unless we have it remapped, and even then it’s dubious for the MOT. I agree with your sentiment though. EGR is a good idea on paper, and a terrible idea in the real world 🤷🏻♂️
beaucoup plus simple sans démonter le pare choc et tout la face avant. pour changer la vanne egr il suffit de déposer le boitier filtre a air et le radiateur échangeur d'air et vous y avez acces. /// much simpler without removing the bumper and the entire front. to change the egr valve, all you have to do is remove the air filter unit and the air exchanger radiator and you have access to them.
How long did it take to do?
If we weren’t filming, maybe 2-3 hours. It looks worse than it is 👍
sounds like your turbo ? did you get it fixed?
Uhm... sort of yeah. We had a third injector replaced and that more or less cured it. I’m still not convinced it’s 100% right but it’s plodding along again. Maybe the last injector needs doing. It’s an expensive business! I wouldn’t recommend the Trafic/Vivaro to anyone!
@@MechitBetter I have 3 of them all done over 300.000 miles I love them .
@@QUAFFSTUDIOS I had one it was a 07 plate did over 30000 miles on the same gear box and same clutch
Check the vacuum pump it may need to be replaced
delete egr and its fixt also replace your ac airco radiator
Thanks. The EGR delete may happen in the future but it’s not quite as simple as it could be on the 2.0 engine. Either way, the problem turned out to be a faulty injector. But the AC radiator definitely needs replacing. It’s utterly wrecked ha! 👍
at the opportunity, please change the egr cooler, the flap of the cooler tears off and is sucked in by the turbo and what can happen then I don't have to explain further 😫
Just had to change my turbo because of this, egr cooler is a pain to change but compared to the turbo it's easy!!!
Maf senser dirty or broke that makes it slow on hills .
Cheers! It turned out to be faulty injectors in this case 👍
The plug isn't for the temperature sensor, it would be for fog lights.
Let the spanner see the sensor!!
That is an anti shudder valve and EGR valve