Reacting to Logan Paul's I Lost $3,500,000 On Fake Pokémon Cards
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ม.ค. 2022
- Logan Paul purchased a $3.5m case of Pokemon Cards... It turned out to be fake.
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For the BBCE dude to be like "We ALL got duped, agreed?" seems like such a slap in the face. Like bro, you're the AUTHENTICATOR.
I know right? He just trying to cover his ass
They were definitely all in on it from the jump
So you don't think the guy who paid $3.5 million got duped?
@@kevintemido I think he said that because it was not just him who processed the box prior to it being authenticated. At the end of the day it is no one persons fault. It is unfortunate yes. I hope they look into it further from here and track it down to the source because something that looks that legitimate is now possible to produce which is terrifying.
When you trust an old fat white guy with a child’s tradition card game that originates in Japan this is what happens
Logan Paul congratulated for your baby in his podcast (which is kinda sick)
Actually 🔥💯
I like that he’s changed
which episode?
@@hiszo Logan Paul and Ksi Podcast
“We all got duped agreed”
Looks around to see if anyone would agree, and gets one “yep” now he’s thinking “thank god I’m off the hook” lmaoo
Seriously. That dude didn’t want to take any responsibility. He is almost entirely at fault. No one would have bought the damn thing if it hadn’t been authenticated by him.
According to Pokebeach, shyne refunded Logan immediately, but those colluding with THEJEW aren't budging as of Thursday night.
Rattle did a better job authenticating it than a "real" authenticator
It’s because he is one of us, the “real” authenticators are you & me, collectors.
Not a sideman to PSA.
No cap Serker
@@officialtcgcollector trueee, very well said
so true and he didn't even need it in his possession to know it was faked..
Exactly😬
Let's be honest. It's the authentication service's fault. They said it hadn't been tampered with, they gotta take their responsibility and pay for it.
One reason psa and becket don't grade booster boxes
@@aaronscott2278 Yeah if you're inexperienced as a company; Don't fucking do it. Not with something that cost 3.5 mill
Yep, they're in trouble.
@@Nayagator only way to know for sure what's inside is to open jt tbere for isn't sealed anymore
@@aaronscott2278 or look at the other guys semi sealed box and compare. Which when you do you see all the inconsistencies.
The fact that Logan was in a room full of "experts" and he was the first to point out something was wrong when the box opened says a lot
Other just another stunt , just like politicians use it to get your attention or distract you from something
@@abrahamrodz4883 i dont think logan would pay 3.5 mill for a stunt
@@abrahamrodz4883 not everything is about politics
Like the shout out to rattle... he deserves respect for his research into this and hasn't gotten enough credit. Makes great content too
I love Rattle! He has a great personality and great content - his videos lack a little bit in production/editing value imo (they aren't bad though!), so I hop he manages to improve this so his channel gets the credit it deserves.
I quite like the fact that he doesn't put too much effort into his editing. Kinda weirdly adds a bit of charm to his vids and is refreshing as it's his way of showing he doesnt really care about clout and just wants to get the truth/right information out there.
@@pukkavidz yeah unfortunately some people have that character quality people like to watch. Leonhart and Randall have it for example. Rattle is just a tad boring but hope it changes too he’s knowledgeable. I get the whole he doesn’t care about the clout but I mean if you are on a platform you technically want subs imo
When the BBCE dude said "We ALL got duped, agreed?" that was rough considering they just lost all of their credibility
I love the logic lesson here. You are correct. “If” it’s real it should be worth 3.5 mil given he bought it thinking it was a real sealed box. Not that it might be a real box.
I think the difference is that when Logan bought it, he assumed it was real but after they open the box they would KNOW it was real and I guess that increases the value of the box.
@@rami.ai8 ya and it would prolly be worth even more since it’s in Logan’s hands
yeah he bought it almost gambling whether it was real or not, so if its fully authenticated that sense of assurance is 100% now rather then a like 50% so the person buying it after would rest assured buying it that its been authenticated and stamped
@@rami.ai8 the point us is value was 3.5 million when bought with assurance it was authentic. Why would validating it was authentic a second time incease the value unless there was known uncertainty to begin with?
of course there was uncertainty. The case was sealed, they couldn't look at the pokemon boxes. No one knew what was truly in the case.
I can see the credibility of that authentication company burning up, they should never have authenticated this without knowing what they are talking about.
Well that company also verifies sealed product for PSA so what does that tell you?
Yeah, that’s completely out the window now. Nomore credibility.
atleast he got a sweet bike and cash for authenticating the box
Before the month ends...
Joe Orlando- PSA/Collector's Universe has made the decision to no longer seek the services of BBCE. This decision was agreed upon by both parties. We wish them the best of luck in their future endeavors.
@@DrPonce09 If you can tell me the one reason that this has a 0% of happening, I will be very impressed.
Watch the GI Joe card market absolutely take off to the moon now Logan has some 😂
Imagine if this box exceeds the worth of 3.5 mil 😂😂
There's a 2004 box auctioning on EBAY for $240 US at the time im posting this
@@jmstransit The 1991 boxes went from $40 yesterday, to $80+ today lol
Why would you pay 2.7 million to somebody that gave you three different origin stories and why would you then sell it on without making that clear FIRST
the authenticator saying 'we were all duped'.... no bro you were. u fooked up
Facts credibility down the drain 😭
"We were all duped. Can we all agree?" The fact he sought out confirmation from the others shows just how f*cked he knows he is 🤣🤣
Rattle did an amazing job! Not sure Logan will be that embarrassed tbh, gets a banger video, a refund and a bunch of publicity for the beverage. Seems like a win win
"we all got duped, agreed?"
is an easy way to say, oops i fucked up someone take the blame with me
Yea, he was trying to get an agree for the camera and the court case coming his way.
Id be very surprised if BBCE isnt done after this. I would never trust their services after something like this 😬
BBCE only authenticated the box seal was not tampered with. They did not authenticate the box or contents.
Before the month ends...
Joe Orlando- PSA/Collector's Universe has made the decision to no longer seek the services of BBCE. This decision was agreed upon by both parties. We wish them the best of luck in their future endeavors.
@@reneeb.8351 Unfortunately this exact point is what will probably spare BBCE from litigation.
Throughout the whole vid he wants to act like the victim. I think he realizes his rep is now tarnished. He coulda easily gone on to not authenticate the box or not be definitive about it. I still think even with looking into it even without being a huge expert a sealed case seems hard to fabricate. I think he didn’t do his work properly. The case might have been good but the contents inside were horrible. If indeed it was done recently, then it couldn’t have been that good to the point where the aging On it can also be faked
They’re FUCKED
It’s weird that they had nothing to compare it to as far as testing, such as comparing weight and or some type of x-ray, to make sure. I’m sure those GIJoe packs inside scan completely differently than a first edition pokemon pack.
Yes but they could of weighed them and made it add up.
He lost 3.5m but at least I got a good belly laugh at that gi joe theme tune at the end 😂
He got a refund but yes :P
Oi slink change your fucking name!
This is unbelievable. I hate our community sometimes 😔.
“FKN G.I JOE BRO” I died 😂
Why wouldn't they put that box on a scale that weight has to be way off
I remember finding those GI Joe cards a few years after the cartoon went off the air. I like them, but not for $3.5m.
What more could you want at the end of the day than to watch Randolph :)
Hats off to rattle pokemon 👏 he proper blew up this story
So glad they opened it. It needed to be done
why were they so happy to be authenticated by sports card people? who had no experience with pokemon?
Apparently BBCE do the booster pack authentication for PSA.
@@benharding3955 correct. Steve Hart is the lone authenticator of unopened product for both BBCE and PSA.
@@stevensmoley7983 that’s crazy.
That box could've been real seal in the early 2000 that's why the tape on top looks like it was embedded
Logan Paul ending his video with the GI Joe theme song was very funny.
Just seeing how they causally throw around an actual 1st Ed box just shows how little they care for the actual hobby itself. Feel bad for Logan.
Its empty bro 😂
it was all empty , each and every one of them
well except the gi 😭😭
@@MrDemiraca they had a real one there for comparison
@@misslinh4115 I think they had one of Logan’s actual boxes there to use as a comparison
You can tell the exact moment Logan's heart breaks
just finished his vid, crazy stuff
Love the content man
so properly "authenticating" a case of cards is impossible!!.....right?!
Pretty much. If you can’t see what’s inside, you honestly will never really know. Booster boxes are hard enough. A sealed case where you can’t even see the booster boxes, oh hell no
correct.
always.
look before you leap.
I'm from a UK MARKET TOWN.
We were taught from kids, NEVER buy a sealed box.
Gi-joe😂
I don’t even know what that is 😂
It's absolutely shocking that this is happening in the Pokémon community. I've just recently started collecting again doing it with my daughter and have bought a jolteon Vmax box from a store. I've just ordered from yourself and very excited to get back into collecting. Will only trust legitimate businesses after watching this. Couldn't afford anything on that scale but it's mad to see this happen to anyone. Can't wait to receive my order keep up the great work.
“Why doesn’t this one say 1st edition on it?”
Quote of the year. Dude authenticated it and now is the dude that seems most nervous. I don’t think cases can be 100% certified after this but there probably isn’t another one one earth at this point
He shouted you out on his podcast! Legend Randolph!
You should watch the 4 eps dude, the 4th really points to who (probably definitely) made the first box in the first place. Rattle did his homework! ⚡️
That’s the authenticaters fault if u can’t actually authenticate something don’t fucking do it
They authenticated the packaging/seal that it hadn’t been tampered with. Whoever did this was highly educated and very damn good at making it look legit. Even the best of the best graders and Authenticators can be fooled. We are still human and this shows that nothing, even things that have been “authenticated” can ever be 100% verified.
@@davidbiagi2932 even he said he fucked up after it was open by looking at the box
Two videos in a day let’s go now I have something to watch for dinner
Rattle has cemented himself as a Legend in the Pokémon TCG community.
I worked in a factory and it's so easy to put those box lines on the stickers just by rubbing them down hard, especially if you got dirty hands it makes it look more aged !!!
even easier, employee just "borrow"?!, the boxes and tape from the company . and make up own. then put them out in the market place.
simple
yet Genuine.
100s of 1000's
already out there, from the moment some idiot, thought buying blind added to the actual products value was a gud thing.
probably
It's such an old con.
I’m so glad I found this channel.
Was it just me or was Logan Paul's face priceless when the BBCE dude said we all got duped agreed 🤯 Logan must of realised how bad a job was done authenticating it when he was explaining what he checked on the box and he did not even mention the label 🤔
I think what the were thinking is the fact that the attention that this story has gotten and the fact they intended to prove its authenticity in front of the world that it would somehow add to its value
I just imagine the guy who put the gi Joe packs in there laughing his ass off right now
🤣🤣
Knowing is half the battle
Well, considering the guy knows who he bought them from, I doubt it. Everything can be traced back to the original person that scammed everyone and I guarantee you Logan and that guy will make sure they find out who it was.
@@davidbiagi2932 unfortunately for Logan, this is not likely. Even if you got all of the previous owners of this case in a room together (which is also not likely) they will all deny they doctored the case and I just cant think of a way to prove one of them did.
@@davidbiagi2932 it coulda just been a random guy who sold it for like 5-10k back in the day. If the case is actually legitimately “aged” then I would guess any stories of the guy that had it before were false. But dunno why he made up a bunch of stories. This coulda been done years and decades ago. It’s nothing new. It’s just getting more common because of how the prices for Pokémon have increased in the past couple years
Randolph in the Cole Buxton!🤝
According to PokeBeach Logan Paul did get credited back his 3.5 mil. Apparently that Jacob kid (cardkahuna) or whatever isn’t paying back shyne150 his 2.7 mil. So now he is having to lawyer up. In that article too it shows Jacob messaging Rattle telling him he will give him 500k to take it down and that Logan Paul can’t open the box. That Jacob kid is shady as hell
The new impaulsive with JJ is jokes too
TCA Gaming should be asked. He is the guy with knowledge. I started collecting in 2015 he was the man back then he is the man to go now.
At least the prices of GI Joe have gone up.... lol
That BBCE guy looked sketchy as fuck
Great video again randy
It's worth more if it's real because when the box is opened and verified it opens the market to new buyers.
i watched a video by rattle pokemon about a gaming store close to where i live in birmingham being a mail scamming store. turned out he was wrong. never seen an apology video. gutted for logan but he seemed in good spirits. really hope all the scalping and scamming comes to a stop some day.
The dude that scammed him probably feeling like a 👑 rn he’s set for life
Wow that must hurt man.
Logan drinks red wine out of a martini glass. That's how you know he's rich- that's a real easy way to stain that white hotel room
even Rick , didn't buy the
"Pokeymen" 🤣
For the labels and the tape to look the way that they did, this box was probably a legit box when it came out and was very shortly swapped out, probably 20 years ago now. There's no way for BBCE to know the contents when they can only go off of the outside of the box. And if the box was swapped out 15-20 years ago, then there really isn't a way to authenticate it properly.
EDIT: After watching a video from Rattle going over the inconsistencies with the box, It is pretty evident that BBCE did not do their due diligence and are at fault for wrongly authenticating the product.
It wasn't though. I suggest you watch Rattles videos on this case. The tape and the barcode weren't right. BBCE screwed up big time.
@@CrngeOPTCG Wow, yup you're right. I've added an edit to my original post. Thank you for pointing that out to me!
what if.
lots of erm.. empty boxes and tape rolls were "just simplyyyy" "taken" out from the factory
filed with junk
taped up
stored for time
then
just put out into the collectors market place.
*Genuine straight from the warehouse, unopened in original packaging*
boom
All started
"probably" way back??!! before factories used loadsa high tech security features on packaging.
imagine that. so simple.
probably.
just a thought.
Man I wanted to react to this video live. I didn't and then I heard my own voice. This is WILD
that authenticator trying to be apart of the we just got played group smh
I bet that pokemon guru baldy guy made that box 😂
Steve need to find a new job now 😂
Randy wearing a Forest cap while watching a Logan Paul video🤣
That's sus
I can't stop laughing about those BBCE guys xD
Why do they think they're qualified to authenticate a Pokémon product? They never handle this stuff.
This is not good for their image and it's their own fault.
This actually breaks my heart
I just hope theres a massive man hunt for the people responsible for this. They have to show scammer cant just get away with stuff and serious without series consequences.
How can I get my card graded in the US, cause I went to Ace grading but the prices are in euros ?
Isnt that card kahuna guy the dude who sold the Charizard to Sasha? Or am I way off. If so shouldn't he be worried about the authenticity of the Zard?
One reason psa and becket don't grade booster boxes etc
Man, I feel so bad for Logan...good God...
how?? he got 3.5 mil to burn on some pokemon scrap..... he's more than fine
I mean it sucks for him ofc, but ultimately he got a refund. So it's far more damaging to those who got scammed before him.
Thank goodness it wasn't My Little Pony TCG. Randy are you planning to stock any GI Joe TCG ? I think it might be a good investment for the future.
Plot Twist: The video is sponsored by G.I Joe upcoming movie.
I think they switched out the box because it cuts to a box without the clear wrap on it
Look like the cobra command have struck again !
Not only feel bad for Logan.. but everyone involved, our card community as a whole. Just crazy
it's okay to laugh randy. logan makes jokes in these situations on purpose to lighten the mood
Let's just thank that "30k bulbasaur" isn't with Logan anymore🙌
Even by loosing he’s winning with the PR from this ❤️
shout out to okjluv the clip before rattle (he never got a mention) - he speak Japanese and has some great videos unboxing Japanese sets and explaining the Japanese names for Pokemon
The scammer is more of an expert than the "experts" 🤣
always
one step ahead.
How did u record edit and upload this in 2 hours
stream opening gi joe cards make new trend
oldest trick in the book, make people look at his twitter and instagram to see him advertise his nft collection which just boomed over night
It's like nobody has heard of PR. lol
Because of the high scrutiny around it being verified real would have made it go up even more either way they bought a case from known scammers and had a company that guarantees nothing but a wrap authenticate it.
The security tape that is on the box is a wrong one. The tape should have been a brown with threaded tape.
My boy okJLUV getting a bit of screen time in the Jake Paul vid nice!
The owner of bbce couldn’t even authenticate it smh
@@stevensmoley7983 no one cares. Sports cards ain’t where it’s at.
@@tainanking considering the fact I can sell my collection and buy a new high end Mercedes, I would have to respectfully disagree. If this thing allowed pictures, I could show you a single pack I have that's worth $6K right now.
No need to shake your head, Christian Camaraza. All this proves is that the fraudster who doctored this case is way crazy good and that Steve Hart is inexperienced with Pokeman. Anyone in the hobby can speak of BBCEs sterling reputation, which is so good, this incident really wont upset their business.
It has been very easy to identify all of the newbies and non-collectors on this thread as they all seem to think this is going to hurt PSA or BBCE. It wont.
he avoided the refund comment lol
Logan has a new found hatred for G.I. Joe lol
shouldve checked the year of the gi joe cards. imagine they say 2021 on them
Do you think this may somehow trigger others to try to do even more faking? I wonder if people may see this and try to go all out and make the fakest looking stuff like this and cause more issues :(
it's already happened.
worldwide spread.
All was needed ..
Same boxes and rolls of tape, taken from the very same company's packaging departments.
Assemble boxes
add worthless filling
Tape uP boxes
slip worthless, Yet *GENUINELY*
*Authentic and sealed* boxes into the market place.
the scammers dream
scan
began.
it's not?! whats on the outside that counts.
how many of thoses boxes are sat in 100 of 1000's collectors cabinet's right now.
should be a massive wake up reality check for the collectors industry
Yo you think the brilliant diamond playthrough will come back I was really enjoying it
BBCE just lost all their credibility 🤣😱😱
Wow he spent 3.5 million on them. 😂
He was fully refunded his 3.5milly hats off go his friend a true gentlemen gave a 100% refund
Never trust a bald guy with Pokémon base set 1st edition. That whole collectibles guru ordeal as well. That guy was bald too ironically lol
There is always that a bald sketchy dude