I pray that all this history is documented/recorded formally so that coming generations know imvelaphi yapho. This is the history we were supposed to learn at school, hhayi that Kaguvi and Nehanda stuff.
@@frankkhethanidubedube919 which is the truth. They were led by a non Zulu known as mzilikazi Khumalo. Who left his people ndwadwe behind while fleeing shaka
We did honor him and he shed tears as it was the first time he was honored we can collaborate as different groupings and arrange a big event and honor him...
I do not understand Sindebele, so I do not grasp what Pathisa is saying here. But I have listened to his historical accounts in English language, and I am also aware that he has written several books on history and culture. He is passionate in his work and has generated and preserved valuable knowledge. I also agree that he deserves and honorary doctorate from Zimbabwean University-but alas, I know those tend to be given more for political considerations and perceptions that genuine merit.
2017 remains to be one of my best years as Organizing secretary of this non political traditional society... we invited Highlanders legends like Madinda Ndlovu Alexander Maseko, Lawrence Phiri, Berry Daka, Peter Nkomo, we also Honored IYASA group as well. ISIZWE ESINGELA MASIKO SIFILE.... our culture defines who we are.
Please mr nyathi can we.have.the English sub title of these important ndebele. History it is enlightening we are tired of history from the European view
It would be a good idea to put subtitles in Ndebele and in other languages so that Ndebele history becomes more attention. It is a valuable heritage to share with other human beings and it will create more understanding of the culture and mindset of Ndebele people. Of course, thia task is only for Ndebele people because you are the protectors and the ones that impart your own history, culture and tradition.
Beautiful! He knows his story, his history and heritage. I thought the Bulawayo name was taken from the Zulu Kingdom as Mzilikazi, we Zulu people, know him to have been one on King Shaka's palamentarians. And the Kingdom was situated in Bulawayo. So my question is, did the Ndebele people fight and war when they got to the current settlement? Another question, why does it seem like the Mpumalanga Ndebele's are completely different and unrelated to you. The language is different, and there's no mention of them in your history. But, this is very interesting I must say.
Whites were the ones who named them Matabele and later known as Ndebele but most Ndebele trace their history from kzn. According to accounts while mzilikazi was running away from impisi zika Shaka ka Senzangakhona he went kidnapping Ndebeles from Mpumalanga, Swatis, Tswanas etc. Just do research.
@@kagimanye1757 no they are not zulus they amaNdebele, they are mixed with swatis's ,tswana, sotho's, pedis, ndebele's from SA, kalanga's ,lozwi, you cannot find those groups here in KZN , which means genetically they are not zulus, even their language is different as they added words from groups that joined them.
@@kagimanye1757 kuhle ukuthi sihloniphane asikho isidingo sokubizana ngamagama , What's utter rubbish it is recorded facts in history books that when mzilikazi left kzn he combined many nations to form isizwe samandebele , you find surnames like phiri , mhlanga, mabhena, moyo ,banda, those surnames are not zulu surnames which means they were assimilated to the growing ndebele's those people are linguistically and genetically not zulus, why are you insisting that they are zulus still Mzilikazi himself was zulu but along the way he added non zulus even non nguni's to the group,
Bab'Mchunu you are correct that uMzilikazi wasuka eKZN and assimilated other tribes on his way to the present day location in Zimbabwe but can I correct you on the Phiris and Bandas, they are from Malawi. Mzilikazi's people were tagged with the name Ndebele after their short sojourn with the Mpumalanga Ndebele where Mzilikazi moved from the present day Pretoria after killing the then Ndebele King Sibindi and "kidnapping" a substantial number of people and moved northwards to present day Zimbabwe.
I was in South Africa on the 16th of july 2021 I'm disappointed of how I was treated in Alberton passport office by 4 xhosa ladies they treated me like I was filthy being called a Zimbabwean but in a very rude and nasty way and it was a pity coz I couldn't say nothing I was treated like I stole my South African documents but that's not the case my stepfather was South African he adopted me and my siblings I was 2 at the time .but anyway I pray for those people coz we're one
Our African leaders are letting us down .. I refuse to be called south African.. I call myself African. .. sorry for that , coz our brothers and sisters are not informed well...
@@frankkhethanidubedube919 yebo thank that's very true .guess my brother is called Frank too my ex mother inlaw is Dube wow . Yah Bless you my brother we are 1 🙌
This is really great especially for those shallow-minded who preach tribalism about Shona this, Ndebele that....this is one gentleman without cheap bias.
Basically says its origin is from Longula calling it as they wanted to kill him for his kingship not the white version a place of slaughter. Bulawayo is english version means nothing in ndebele its actually Kobulawayo
All of you who are proud of this old man I ask myself. How right is he about abakaKhumalo. Please go and look at Mzilikazis photo in old age and compare it to Kelly
History of Ndebele people in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 is roughly 180 to 190 years old. Mzilikazi was an army General not a king NGAKIBO when he was under King Shaka. Ndebele kingdom in Zimbabwe only lasted roughly for 54 years according to history books.
Why really are we wasting so much time just to create a nation out of a nickname ... honestly ? Simple call yourselves Zulus ... Proudly Zulu . I don't mean to offend anyone.. if Mzilikazi a King Shaka were brothers ,it's Simple one bloodline (ZULUS)
@@mkhokheligandarry1431 if u know how Zulus name came by ... ? U might view this from a different view .. Zulus were there... Shaka only made the nation stronger and expanded it.. original name for so called ndebele comes from matebele , mzilikazi could not pronounce it so its a nickname given by tswana people.. in English the follwers
It’s actually abangoni meaning the ones don’t sin, white people couldn’t pronounce Abangoni so they called us Abanguni which is a wrong word. They also gave us the word Ingelosi trying to say Idlozi
@@dee4069 umele ubekwazi ukuthi tina esindebeleni izibongo zethu aso ma parts o mzimba njenge esishoneni ukuthi Moyo yisi shona asosindebele i moyo ngesindebele yi nhliziyo uyezwa na akula moyo oli ndebele ca!
Ur not well informed .. do u even know the meaning of Xhosa.. ??.. if u don't let me give u a back drop .. Zulu man pregnanted khoisan woman a boy was born .. as u know as khoisan are original people.. so in khoisan language Xhosa means angry man .. because the boy was angry...
This man distorts history of Mzilikazi. Mzilikazi was a man who roamed all over southern Africa looting and killing innocent people. He was a fugitive on the most wanted list of king Shaka or Tshaka
@@killerbea334life6 never ! The name tebele (Ndebele ) is a borrowed which was given to Ndebele people by the sotho/tswana group ....ndebele people are off-shot Zulu Mahlabezulu is what the leaders of the tribe addresses them as - e Sotho people call Zulu tebele even today
@@hillarytshabalala8354 the ndebele originated in south Africa if you go to kzn at ladysmith you will find a surname called ndebele. Ndebele founded the ndebele national and the pedi,sotho and thswana were amazed when ndebele and his followers had long shields.so their thought that everyone who had a long shield was a ndebele.
I was teach by a ndebele teacher guy's those teachers use to panich as for speaking our language at school to my self learning ndebele was waste of time am not a ndebele am venda-peli I should be teached my languages to those teachers you beat me I wonder how you doing
Who was MaNdiweni to give birth to King Mzilikazi when there was MaNxumalo??? There is No mention of a Ndiweni in the Zulu history. How is it the Ndiweni are now mentioned Mnumzane Nyathi is rewriting history?. When King Mzilikazi passed why did a search party not go to Ntabazinduna but went to the Nxumalos to search for Nkulumane???
Watching from Canada I'm proud to be a Ndebele
How can one send you a full DVD for the event mfowethu
Dr Phathisa Nyathi is a national asset he deserves recognition for his wonderful works . What a beautiful piece of Ndebele history.
I feel the same, now we have a clear understanding of who we are because of Dr P Nyathi ,he is our treasure as Ndebele people
I pray that all this history is documented/recorded formally so that coming generations know imvelaphi yapho. This is the history we were supposed to learn at school, hhayi that Kaguvi and Nehanda stuff.
He is not reading from script, or notes. very intelligent
Beautiful Ndebele history. Very proud of being Ndebele.
You are Zulu
@@frankkhethanidubedube919 which is the truth. They were led by a non Zulu known as mzilikazi Khumalo. Who left his people ndwadwe behind while fleeing shaka
@@innocentgoitseone3715 he was Zulu Bruv , Mzilikazi kamashobane ✅✅ from kwa Bulawayo KZN
@@hillarytshabalala8354 am referencing in terms of clans, before Shaka united Nguni clans into the Zulu nation
@@innocentgoitseone3715 mzilikazi was already speaking Zulu what do u mean
He was created for such a time as this and has fulfilled his purpose.. We celebrate that ☺
Viva Matebele amahle I'm proud to be a Ndebele
Viva maShona I'm proud to be a Shona
Its a shame our full history is not part of our school curriculum.
Amashona awala mbali eqotho ngakho ngomona abangeke bavume iqiniso lifundiswe ezkolweni
It is just because you were dumb during your school days doesn't mean it wasn't taught
@@h.m.5724 very true
@@h.m.5724 😂😂
Kube bengeMndebele ngangiyoba yini kodwa? Proudly Ndebele 💪
Kube bengeMndebele ngangiyoba yini kodwa?
Bayethe💪
How does one recommend someone for an honorary doctorate ?Pathisa Nyath is long overdue for that honour.Thank you for carrying the flag for the nation
Petition
We did honor him and he shed tears as it was the first time he was honored we can collaborate as different groupings and arrange a big event and honor him...
I do not understand Sindebele, so I do not grasp what Pathisa is saying here. But I have listened to his historical accounts in English language, and I am also aware that he has written several books on history and culture. He is passionate in his work and has generated and preserved valuable knowledge. I also agree that he deserves and honorary doctorate from Zimbabwean University-but alas, I know those tend to be given more for political considerations and perceptions that genuine merit.
Phathisa deserves a Grammy Award......Kanti bameleleni bangamniki shuwa...Amashona asethethe ilizwe bakhohlwa ngabutho aseMatebele Land...
We should never expect anything good from the people who murdered the liberators of Zimbabwe! Gukurahundi is the thanks we got for our sacrifice!
Ilizwe lalingela maShona before Ndebeles arrived in 1840. As a people in Zimbabwe, Ndebeles from the Nguni tribe are only 180 years old.
The history of Ndebele people in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 is roughly around 180 to 190 years old. THAT'S A FACT 💯 CONFIRMED BY HISTORIANS
Baba Phathisa Nyathi, siyabonga kakhulu for sharing yourself with us. Before you leave, I would love to sit down with you and ask some questions.
Watching from South Africa🇿🇦 Who is this elder?
ubaba u Phathisa Nyathi lona Mbulase, yiqhawe lobaba
2017 remains to be one of my best years as Organizing secretary of this non political traditional society... we invited Highlanders legends like Madinda Ndlovu Alexander Maseko, Lawrence Phiri, Berry Daka, Peter Nkomo, we also Honored IYASA group as well. ISIZWE ESINGELA MASIKO SIFILE.... our culture defines who we are.
Please mr nyathi can we.have.the English sub title of these important ndebele. History it is enlightening we are tired of history from the European view
It would be a good idea to put subtitles in Ndebele and in other languages so that Ndebele history becomes more attention.
It is a valuable heritage to share with other human beings and it will create more understanding of the culture and mindset of Ndebele people.
Of course, thia task is only for Ndebele people because you are the protectors and the ones that impart your own history, culture and tradition.
You have a point will contact my colleagues in leadership and we work on it.
Beautiful! He knows his story, his history and heritage. I thought the Bulawayo name was taken from the Zulu Kingdom as Mzilikazi, we Zulu people, know him to have been one on King Shaka's palamentarians. And the Kingdom was situated in Bulawayo. So my question is, did the Ndebele people fight and war when they got to the current settlement? Another question, why does it seem like the Mpumalanga Ndebele's are completely different and unrelated to you. The language is different, and there's no mention of them in your history. But, this is very interesting I must say.
Whites were the ones who named them Matabele and later known as Ndebele but most Ndebele trace their history from kzn. According to accounts while mzilikazi was running away from impisi zika Shaka ka Senzangakhona he went kidnapping Ndebeles from Mpumalanga, Swatis, Tswanas etc. Just do research.
@@kagimanye1757 no they are not zulus they amaNdebele, they are mixed with swatis's ,tswana, sotho's, pedis, ndebele's from SA, kalanga's ,lozwi, you cannot find those groups here in KZN , which means genetically they are not zulus, even their language is different as they added words from groups that joined them.
@@kagimanye1757 kuhle ukuthi sihloniphane asikho isidingo sokubizana ngamagama ,
What's utter rubbish it is recorded facts in history books that when mzilikazi left kzn he combined many nations to form isizwe samandebele , you find surnames like phiri , mhlanga, mabhena, moyo ,banda, those surnames are not zulu surnames which means they were assimilated to the growing ndebele's those people are linguistically and genetically not zulus, why are you insisting that they are zulus still
Mzilikazi himself was zulu but along the way he added non zulus even non nguni's to the group,
@@pmchunu8450 phiri malawi n bandas n they never came with King Mzilikazi beza bodwa
Bab'Mchunu you are correct that uMzilikazi wasuka eKZN and assimilated other tribes on his way to the present day location in Zimbabwe but can I correct you on the Phiris and Bandas, they are from Malawi.
Mzilikazi's people were tagged with the name Ndebele after their short sojourn with the Mpumalanga Ndebele where Mzilikazi moved from the present day Pretoria after killing the then Ndebele King Sibindi and "kidnapping" a substantial number of people and moved northwards to present day Zimbabwe.
I was in South Africa on the 16th of july 2021 I'm disappointed of how I was treated in Alberton passport office by 4 xhosa ladies they treated me like I was filthy being called a Zimbabwean but in a very rude and nasty way and it was a pity coz I couldn't say nothing I was treated like I stole my South African documents but that's not the case my stepfather was South African he adopted me and my siblings I was 2 at the time .but anyway I pray for those people coz we're one
Our African leaders are letting us down .. I refuse to be called south African.. I call myself African. .. sorry for that , coz our brothers and sisters are not informed well...
@@frankkhethanidubedube919 yebo thank that's very true .guess my brother is called Frank too my ex mother inlaw is Dube wow .
Yah Bless you my brother we are 1 🙌
This is really great especially for those shallow-minded who preach tribalism about Shona this, Ndebele that....this is one gentleman without cheap bias.
Siyabonga Mdluli omuhle ngale imbali eyivela kanci ezingwalweni zakuleli eleBudlabunondo(Zimbabwe), esikubongayo yikuthi usugwalile ezakho izingwalo.
Awu 🙌🏿🙌🏿 Siyabonga Khehla.
very cultured calm and a gem of knowledge.
History perfected. Siyabonga.
Syabonga uluju oluyithi, sbonge letechnology esiyokwenza shlale lalo loluluju unomphela
Ndebele and proud
Mina ngingumntwana wesihlahla ubaba wami angimazi kodwa ngizalwa ngumaBhebhe wakoNzinda.Ngiyaziqenya ngakho lokho ngoba idlozi lakomama lingijongile.
Nandi's surname was Bhebhe pure Zulu..
@@frankkhethanidubedube919 Nandi's surname was not Bhebhe...it was her father's name
@@mwelase1990 my brother do you know how surname? So a name in those days became surnames . What was Shaka 's surname ?
Ndebele are Zulu people period
serious the more I learn about them I feel am part of them wherever they are
North ndebele not sourthen ndebele
@@killerbea334life6 same difference
Kahle futhi
@@snubcapri8691 it’s not the same ,,,Northern Mdebele is basically Zulu that went to a public school
This is beautiful, siyabonga
ngiyaziqenya ukuba lindebele
Mzilikazi kaMatshobane
Corrections Mashobane
Ngiyaziqhenya ngokuba lindebele❤
Syabonga muntwakithi❤️
Siyabonga kakhulu khulu
ngijabule kakhulu njengomuntu omutsha ukuzwa imbali yethu
Zwane Mbambo Ndiweni Mafu Mazibuko ngabantu banye, ngaMambo njenga bakwa Tshabalala..
Uyitsho kahle indaba yesikhosini.
The knowledge in this man hayaya
Bulawayo has been there before Lobhengula. KwaBulawayo is linked to KZN
Indeed it was Tshaka's capital before the treachery of his brother Dingani and aunt Mgabayi!
Duh
True bro lobaba uyaphosisa
That's what I know too.
Even in Eastern Cape
Halala halala Tata Nyathie 💕
Some history there
Baba uNkathi syabonga umsebenzi omkhulu kangaka owenzela thina siyisizwe samaNdebele usikhumbuza ukuthi singobabi sidabuphi kakhulukazi mina ngoba ngiyasithanda isintu sakhithi izenje noma ungasiqondikahle kodwa ngiyazama ukuthi ngisondele ebantwini abadala njengawe khehla ngiyathanda umlando osifundisa wona,ngiyezwa lapha usichazela ngomlondo wakhithi ubabale bonke abenzalo yendlu yenkosi yethu uMzilikazi kaMashobani nesikulwane sakhe sonke,kodwa nginomubuzo lapha khehla ngubani, ubulelani khumao uzalwa ngubani udabukaphi ingabe uzalwa ebukhosini ngikweqiniso yilokho engifisa ukukwazi, mina ngidabuka esilobela indawo ukukoMasuthi, igama lami ngingu Nkosinathi isibongo ngingowako Ndimande, Ngiyabonga
imbongi ebize Isilo ekucineni ngubani?
Can someone explain the Bulawayo name he explains. My ndebele not the best
Basically says its origin is from Longula calling it as they wanted to kill him for his kingship not the white version a place of slaughter. Bulawayo is english version means nothing in ndebele its actually Kobulawayo
Nguboyenja or Ngubo'entsha
I have seen a Collen Ndlovu telling creative fibs with isomething yabantu, talking about Ndebele kingship. Is it you? And uyayona indaba lwamuntu!
kuyajabulisa lokhu, siyabonga
Rest in peace baba Phathisa
if we could put this on a series
we have a DVD
Proudly Ndebele
Siyabonga
I would really love to understand what this man has to say!
Bebe bulawelani kanti?
How old are you?
Long live Nyathi
Proudly ndebele
All of you who are proud of this old man I ask myself. How right is he about abakaKhumalo. Please go and look at Mzilikazis photo in old age and compare it to Kelly
History of Ndebele people in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 is roughly 180 to 190 years old. Mzilikazi was an army General not a king NGAKIBO when he was under King Shaka. Ndebele kingdom in Zimbabwe only lasted roughly for 54 years according to history books.
Not to be rude but what's your point?
Kanti u Nyamanda u azalwa ngu mabani?
Ngiyabonga baba.
Phambili ngamasiko kamthwakazi wendlela zimhlophe
Great history 😁 thank you.
Babethi aybulawex2 aysozi bulawe
Why really are we wasting so much time just to create a nation out of a nickname ... honestly ? Simple call yourselves Zulus ... Proudly Zulu . I don't mean to offend anyone.. if Mzilikazi a King Shaka were brothers ,it's Simple one bloodline (ZULUS)
True
Shaka wasn’t mzilikazi brother
There was no Zulus before tshaka, tshaka founded the Zulu kingdom hence let mzilikazi call his Pipo ndebeles
@@mkhokheligandarry1431 if u know how Zulus name came by ... ? U might view this from a different view .. Zulus were there... Shaka only made the nation stronger and expanded it.. original name for so called ndebele comes from matebele , mzilikazi could not pronounce it so its a nickname given by tswana people.. in English the follwers
@@mkhokheligandarry1431 Ndebele’s got their name from Sotho / Tswana people some of them still call Zulu people that way
Ukhokho wami u shakalisa...
proud NGUNI
It’s actually abangoni meaning the ones don’t sin, white people couldn’t pronounce Abangoni so they called us Abanguni which is a wrong word. They also gave us the word Ingelosi trying to say Idlozi
@@nhlanlashabangu5888 Interesting.
@@nhlanlashabangu5888 akusilona iqiniso Shabangu ungalahli abantu 🤣
@@nhlanlashabangu5888 ifatela bro awulanhloni
Qiniso iNkosi uMzilikazi yalala esiswini sika Cikose Ndiweni (Zwane) khepha uMzilikazi emthethweni wesi Ngoni sakithi ungoka Nompethu Nxumalo ngoba phela uCikose uze koKhumalo eyiNhlanzi ngenxa kaNompethu Nxumalo umnikazi womuzi okusemthethweni we siNguni,kungenjalo uMzilikazi ubengeke wabayiNkosi yaMantugwa wabayiNkosi ngenxa yokuthi uzalwa ngumntanenkosi uZwide kaLanga uNompethu yikho kwahlonitshwa kanjalo ukuthi ebeyiNkosi..siyazi yebo nayo INKOSI uMzilikazi yayikwazi lokho yikho oMbiko babethatha abantwana beNkosi ngoba esazi ukuthi yingxenye ngonina uNompethu,njalo Zinengi izinduna zako Masuku embusweni kaMzilikazi zilandela ezakwaZwane, mele lazi ukuthi uNxumalo ulokhu enguMasuku phela ,into engaziywayo mhlawumbe kulabo abangasibo bezansi..eqinisweni waphuma esiswini sika Cikose kodwa ezalela okaNxumalo umntwana uNompethu Nxumalo emzini kaKhumalo.khona yikhuthethisa ukuqhelisa uthi bhaadla, uthi kuzulu, inkosi uMzilikazi ayizalwa ngumaNxumalo uyakususelwa amanqe lokho ngoba uthuka isivumelwano esise mthethweni emzini wensizwa eNguKhumalo esiNgunini...
Kodwa hayi uyilanda kahle nje indaba baba ngiyabonga
Thebe
it is shown that we are one people
Love you
Wena ulishona akula muntu owesindebeleni owakomoyo
@@butholezwemabhena7258 pho laboMoyo abaseGoli abangakaze balugqxobe esishoneni uthini ngabo,
@@dee4069 ulamanga akula moyo e goli
@@dee4069 umele ubekwazi ukuthi tina esindebeleni izibongo zethu aso ma parts o mzimba njenge esishoneni ukuthi Moyo yisi shona asosindebele i moyo ngesindebele yi nhliziyo uyezwa na akula moyo oli ndebele ca!
@@dee4069 ama ndebele adcweleyo ngo sangweni, gumede mkwananzi nxumalo khumalo mabhena etc not parts of the body
ukuthata iXhosa has always been a grave mistake! kkkkk
Hawu 😳
Why bafo?
Tribalist
Ur not well informed .. do u even know the meaning of Xhosa.. ??.. if u don't let me give u a back drop .. Zulu man pregnanted khoisan woman a boy was born .. as u know as khoisan are original people.. so in khoisan language Xhosa means angry man .. because the boy was angry...
This man distorts history of Mzilikazi. Mzilikazi was a man who roamed all over southern Africa looting and killing innocent people. He was a fugitive on the most wanted list of king Shaka or Tshaka
This is history of north ndebele. please stop misleading south ndebele who are the true founder of the ndebele nation
Nothern Ndebele has no link to sourhtern Ndebele ....northern Ndebele is A dialect of Zulu
@@hillarytshabalala8354 but people say the north give birth to the southern ndebele
@@killerbea334life6 never ! The name tebele (Ndebele ) is a borrowed which was given to Ndebele people by the sotho/tswana group ....ndebele people are off-shot Zulu Mahlabezulu is what the leaders of the tribe addresses them as - e Sotho people call Zulu tebele even today
@@hillarytshabalala8354 the ndebele originated in south Africa if you go to kzn at ladysmith you will find a surname called ndebele. Ndebele founded the ndebele national and the pedi,sotho and thswana were amazed when ndebele and his followers had long shields.so their thought that everyone who had a long shield was a ndebele.
@@killerbea334life6 I will go , and find out myself
He is making up Matebele history. Go to KZN and Swati to learn about Mzilikazi.
There's no Matebele.. Zulu is the nation
True baba
I agree with you 100%. I have a Ndebele ancestry and some things he mentions is not true.
King Mzilikazi left the Zulu land so okwangale sizokudinga but for now sifun ukwaz afika akwenza kwelamaNdebele
I agree . He has some facts wrong. Mzilikazi means big way .
I was teach by a ndebele teacher guy's those teachers use to panich as for speaking our language at school to my self learning ndebele was waste of time am not a ndebele am venda-peli I should be teached my languages to those teachers you beat me I wonder how you doing
Who was MaNdiweni to give birth to King Mzilikazi when there was MaNxumalo??? There is No mention of a Ndiweni in the Zulu history. How is it the Ndiweni are now mentioned Mnumzane Nyathi is rewriting history?. When King Mzilikazi passed why did a search party not go to Ntabazinduna but went to the Nxumalos to search for Nkulumane???
Rubbish Ndebeles are refugees from SA they do not own anything in Zim.
Msunu kanyoko wena Shona
Don't believe everything Phathisa says
Phathisa has lied a lot about Matebele history. He makes wild claims without stating his sources. He teaches fictional history
You are a disgrace because you were born yesterday. You very ignorant.
Phathisi is knowledgeable elder
Wena wakho athini amanga siwezwe ungaxheki omunye Wena ungatshongo lutho