@@voltrixgames4375she was basically a boss. If it makes you feel better she can be called a mini-boss as she was far stronger that the usual elite enemies
@@gargutz907 Are you sure? All of those doesn't have a big weakness in the form of 0 def, Even Pallas had a chance to shine in one of the IS modes. Viviana is sadly plain, boring and even her animations looks stiff as if she was rushed.
"This isn't the Candle Knight, this is Wax Light Cavalier!" That was pretty funny. xD But yeah, I was super excited when I found out the Candle Knight was becoming playable, and then super disappointed when I realized they made her an arts guard for some reason. I was expecting her to be like Skyfire on steroids, with a final skill that slows her attack speed but expands her attack range and nukes a huge area with every strike, maybe with True Damage or something. Would have been awesome as far as an AOE caster goes. Instead, we get this confusing mess of buffs and debuffs that prioritizes enemies I wouldn't even use her against with a build like that. I hope she either gets a total overhaul that resets her to be more like her boss self, or that she gets a "Vivianna the Candle Knight" alter form that actually IS her boss self. This current Arts Guard variant is criminally underwhelming and half-baked.
>Huge area true damage No. The game needs less unga. The game needs more units like Viviana, not less. We need less nukes, less win buttons, less no brain. All it does is create a feedback loop of "if it's not the strongest thing in the game, it's useless". HG has already given us plenty of units that have and will continue to trivialize 98% of the game. We don't need more units to contribute to that.
@@BlahBlahFreeman Actually I was thinking more of a single delayed nuke which requires precise timing or block to be effective. Like Mudrock S3 without slow delayed nuke with only single area hit per skill cast.
I for sure thought she would be a caster cause 1. I’m stuck building guards cause there are so many good ones that I got recently and they won’t stop and 2. I want to blast the enemies with her fireblast attack and come on Hypergryph she’s the perfect operator to introduce the burning elemental damage, she the fucking CandleKnight.
@@jonaldbalingit884Taking a unit from boss, to operator, to alter, is crazy. I could see the fuсked up evil Hypergryph wizards doing that. And only after writing this did I remember Wis'ădel just came out. It seems the fuсked up evil Hypergryph wizards have already invaded my mind, so the fuсked up evil Hypergryph ninjas are probably already in my home. max ur gummy my final message. Goodb ye
@@jonaldbalingit884@jonaldbalingit884 Taking a unit from boss, to operator, to alter, is crazy. I could see the screwed up evil Hypergryph wizards doing that. And only after writing this did I remember Wis'ădel just came out. It seems the screwed up evil Hypergryph wizards have already invaded my mind, so the screwed up evil Hypergryph ninjas are probably already in my home. max ur gummy my final message. Goodb ye
I have this video saved in my playlist. Seems your hilarious fantastic accent gets thicker like... *Caper's legs* when you talk unhinged fast with slight salt. Awesome.
agree with most things you'd said but it's not that Viviana doesn't take aspects from her boss form, but rather her boss form not using any aspects of her real abilities. She's supposed to use some kind of light and shadow arts (as seen in her fight with Nearl and in the most recent event) but her boss form has her use explosions instead
So I think what happened here, the community said “We don’t want low effort alters” and the finger on the monkey’s paw of HG misunderstanding the community curled and they slapped Viviana’s model onto a nascent Astesia alter kit.
I wouldn't be surprised if HG gives Viviana one of the better modules based on the reception of her on launch in CN and her competition with Surtr. Increasing her first talent by any sizable amount would result in a significant increase of damage and tankiness. Imagine a Lvl.3 module with another 9% added on. Something else that a lot of people don't mention about her is that she's kind of perfect for literally any buff you can give her. Sail is an amazing opener/partner unit as she can help offset the atkspd debuff on S3, and her S2 can work as heal if needed. With Sails module you can also turn Vivi into a pseudo-Arts AOE guard with S2. Sails S3 Fragility can also help Vivi cut through tougher enemies faster with both S2 and S3. (I know most people consider flagbearers dead now, but still.) That said, she can tank Aak's S3 with no problem at all. Saria's S3, Gnosis S3, and Suzu all work amazingly as usual. Reedalter's S2 synergizes perfectly with Vivi as the arts fragility from Cinder is amazing, and the AOE helps Vivi not leak off-cooldown. When Iana comes to Global she'll be another really good option. Pram and Skyfire are two of the best to bring with Viviana imo. Skyfire's talent is insane for the triple hit on S3 or amping the double hits on S2. And Prams Res reduction and Fragility (and weakness) is great for every situation that Vivi would typically struggle in (like Ch.9 Refraction buff). I really like the versatility Viviana has. She's not the best at anything, but she can be pretty great at everything. Almost like she's a well-rounded unit that's unfortunately lost in a sea of massively overpowered units. The mantra is set a new standard for broken, or be forgotten. Either way, I've M6'd Vivi and enjoying her so much.
I just pulled Viviana. I will max her and she will replace my Surtr with her. I despise meta stuff, so I will always look to switch out operators with worse versions if they look nice.
As someone unfocused, aimless, literally watching on my phone while rollerblading, I just had to comment (while still skating): Viviana kitb just like me fr
Viviana is cool in concept, but just doesn't work in practice. Shes basically a duelist guard but for bosses, but most bosses can literally be erased from existence with (any meta dps) plus Warfarin and Suzuran, so there is basically no reason to have her.
One thing to note for lessing is that he has worse dps than no module skadi when it comes to somewhere around 1000 def, and anything below that just use yato lmao
Took me 220 pulls for Arturia and I am not struggling for my life to survive the coming headliners and getting them all. My wallet will truly suffer for the first time in two years.
Candle Knight are the most wasted potential unit to mimick her boss form for her combat skill. I could literaly imagine her s3 skill basicaly a charge art nuker where she charge her ability for few seconds and enemies inside her charge area will get their invisible remove and when the charge is full she just nuke them and give them stun. This version we have are just feels so rushed to develop her kit.
I disagree with Vivian being bad. I do agree that they should have done better with her but shes not bad. Surtr is a helidrop unit that clears all enemies and then dies. Vivian is ment to stay on field. And duel tough enemies that come in every once and a while. Again I do agree they should have done her better, but to say shes just bad is not true. She has a niche and preforms it well.
You know, now that I think about it, even the developers prefer Arturia over Viviana, considering Arturia is the only one between them with an animated portrait (at least according to the banner). Which sucks because as characters I liked Viviana more, the idea of a swordswoman with a candle sounds nice, but I guess it is what it is
Welp, 270 pulls in, 2 bad off rates, triple Viviana combo deluxe, and no virtuosa. I only wanted virtuosa…. And only 5 six stars in 270 pulls?? Still sparking texalter tho
i refuse to believe this man's arknight's most hated content creator he's so informative and funny. "she better have a gun because pepper spray will not stop me" he's a mf'ing word smith
I will never get over or forgive HG for not giving Viviana her Flashy-Flashy-Boom-Boom nuke magic. Is she ok? Yea but she had so much more potential than just Astesia Powercreep and it got wasted. Will still try for her because our girl needs headpats and consolation for injustice done to her. As for Arturia, getting into a relationship with her is no doubt going to be the biggest mistake of my life but it'll be the best biggest mistake of my life.
Wonder what they could give Viviana via module that might actually fix her slightly. Flat RES ignore so her damage could compete with Surtr's a bit better would be nice.
@@mercurialblonde If you want to, sure. No res ignore, 47s setup time and the 15s uptime on her s3 just hurts and will most likely bar her from truly difficult stages.
Actually, isnt Viviana being grossly underrated? imo, viviana is an arts tank, not an arts fighter. imo to use her properly: 1. use her vs elite/boss tt deals arts dmg - so take 16% less arts dmg 2. use with nightingale to give another 15 res for 30 base res (that is 30% res reduction)| 3. 84% * 0.7 = 58.8 % arts dmg taken only before skills are on 4. Only Nightingale skill is on, res becomes 45% - meaning arts dmg taken is only 46.2% 5. Only Viviana skill is on, res becomes 15 + 15 + 25 = 55 res = only 37.8% arts dmg taken 6. Both nightingale and Viviana skill is on = 82.5 res = 14.7 % arts dmg taken 7. Not to mention, nightingale s3 gives arts dodge 8. Viviana s3 shield will guard vs a hybrid boss's physical atk fully. So isnt Viviana is an incredible arts tank that will out tank mudrock and hoshiguma who cant really tank arts dmg? A.k.a. Viviana is the best arts tank in the game right now. (Not to mention her base def and skill def up results in even higher def than gavial)
"She better have a gun, because pepper spray will NOT stop me" - Arknights most poetic youtuber
Arturia doesnt trap me, i enter the relationship willingly
As do I idk im always drawn to insnae angels Dorothy in nikke, Mika in blue archive and now Arturia ahhhh idk what this says about me
That`s what she wants you to think
arknights players when they see an absolutely irredeemable woman who has gotten several people killed: i can't NOT fuck her.
@@lucasrocha-kd3umAND I'LL LET HER
Supah didnt say he is arknights most hated youtuber in this one... maybe he understands now, we fixed him
Because Arturia told him to let his heart speak out
Nah, it's just his disguise to make you believed it and then destroyed your expectation in the next video
@@Therestrial205 😂
nah he fixed us
SUPAH: she better have a gun because pepper spray will not stop me.
Gummy: finally I'm free.
i have to comment LMAO on this..!
Or so she thought....
Viviana is literally the boss when you get her as a playable unit...
And then there's Degen, wish Vivi was stronker :C
She's so pretty :C
Chuzenji cooked so hard with her design and yet HG decided to give her a mediocre kit...
i feel so mad they disrespect chuzenji like that
Not a boss :) an elite enemy lmao, look again
@@voltrixgames4375she was basically a boss. If it makes you feel better she can be called a mini-boss as she was far stronger that the usual elite enemies
Regarding Caper, she is first bunny with proper hind-legs. Bunnies are well known for their hind-legs, which they use to HOP around.
The Coffin of Federic and Arturia
Arent they're cousins
@@ehhanz8118 Yep, hence the title
@ehhanz8118 The joke is that, the used the popular incest game's name but changed the names
I definitely watched the whole video despite it being released 36 seconds ago and i can safely say that Viviana is dealing METRIC VIGILLION OF DAMAGE
A frostleafion amount of dmg
Imagine being a 6* guard worse than Hoederer
@@danekosamehada7206what is this slander? Chen, Skadi without AH circus buffs, Hellagur, Pallas, Irene and arguably Qiubai are all worse than Ho-man.
@@gargutz907 Irene and Quibai are worse than Hoaderer? Now thats funny.
@@gargutz907 Are you sure? All of those doesn't have a big weakness in the form of 0 def, Even Pallas had a chance to shine in one of the IS modes.
Viviana is sadly plain, boring and even her animations looks stiff as if she was rushed.
"And traps you in abusive and manipulative relationships"
And you know what ? I'm absolutely okay with that
That line about Caper was fucking wild
"This isn't the Candle Knight, this is Wax Light Cavalier!" That was pretty funny. xD
But yeah, I was super excited when I found out the Candle Knight was becoming playable, and then super disappointed when I realized they made her an arts guard for some reason. I was expecting her to be like Skyfire on steroids, with a final skill that slows her attack speed but expands her attack range and nukes a huge area with every strike, maybe with True Damage or something. Would have been awesome as far as an AOE caster goes. Instead, we get this confusing mess of buffs and debuffs that prioritizes enemies I wouldn't even use her against with a build like that.
I hope she either gets a total overhaul that resets her to be more like her boss self, or that she gets a "Vivianna the Candle Knight" alter form that actually IS her boss self. This current Arts Guard variant is criminally underwhelming and half-baked.
Or atleast a single delayed mega nuke that could miss very fast enemies but obliterate everything else. Yeah very disappointing 😮💨.
>Huge area true damage
No. The game needs less unga. The game needs more units like Viviana, not less. We need less nukes, less win buttons, less no brain. All it does is create a feedback loop of "if it's not the strongest thing in the game, it's useless". HG has already given us plenty of units that have and will continue to trivialize 98% of the game. We don't need more units to contribute to that.
@Neisse "viviana literally does nothing." Imagine literally. 🤡
@@BlahBlahFreeman Actually I was thinking more of a single delayed nuke which requires precise timing or block to be effective. Like Mudrock S3 without slow delayed nuke with only single area hit per skill cast.
HG WHERE IS VIVIANA'S NUKE SKILL?!
I for sure thought she would be a caster cause 1. I’m stuck building guards cause there are so many good ones that I got recently and they won’t stop and 2. I want to blast the enemies with her fireblast attack and come on Hypergryph she’s the perfect operator to introduce the burning elemental damage, she the fucking CandleKnight.
And that's why alters exist. HG about to milk us for that caster archetype when the time comes. 😆
@@jonaldbalingit884Taking a unit from boss, to operator, to alter, is crazy. I could see the fuсked up evil Hypergryph wizards doing that.
And only after writing this did I remember Wis'ădel just came out. It seems the fuсked up evil Hypergryph wizards have already invaded my mind, so the fuсked up evil Hypergryph ninjas are probably already in my home.
max ur gummy
my final message. Goodb ye
@@jonaldbalingit884@jonaldbalingit884 Taking a unit from boss, to operator, to alter, is crazy. I could see the screwed up evil Hypergryph wizards doing that.
And only after writing this did I remember Wis'ădel just came out. It seems the screwed up evil Hypergryph wizards have already invaded my mind, so the screwed up evil Hypergryph ninjas are probably already in my home.
max ur gummy
my final message. Goodb ye
@@jonaldbalingit884sorry if you got 2 ghost notifications, the Hypergryph ninjas deleted my replies
Ive built every operator in the game except Gummy.
"That's bait."
Just realized that Caper actually speaks spanish in her english voice. I wasn't planning on building her but now im sold (the thighs also sold me too)
4:05 SUPAH's at it again. And i can only agree with him
I have this video saved in my playlist. Seems your hilarious fantastic accent gets thicker like... *Caper's legs* when you talk unhinged fast with slight salt. Awesome.
agree with most things you'd said but it's not that Viviana doesn't take aspects from her boss form, but rather her boss form not using any aspects of her real abilities. She's supposed to use some kind of light and shadow arts (as seen in her fight with Nearl and in the most recent event) but her boss form has her use explosions instead
So I think what happened here, the community said “We don’t want low effort alters” and the finger on the monkey’s paw of HG misunderstanding the community curled and they slapped Viviana’s model onto a nascent Astesia alter kit.
Yo bro congrats on 20k!
When supa made the jojo reference and said it in Italian for a moment got me thinking how is he so clean at it! Nice video.
I wouldn't be surprised if HG gives Viviana one of the better modules based on the reception of her on launch in CN and her competition with Surtr. Increasing her first talent by any sizable amount would result in a significant increase of damage and tankiness. Imagine a Lvl.3 module with another 9% added on.
Something else that a lot of people don't mention about her is that she's kind of perfect for literally any buff you can give her. Sail is an amazing opener/partner unit as she can help offset the atkspd debuff on S3, and her S2 can work as heal if needed. With Sails module you can also turn Vivi into a pseudo-Arts AOE guard with S2. Sails S3 Fragility can also help Vivi cut through tougher enemies faster with both S2 and S3. (I know most people consider flagbearers dead now, but still.)
That said, she can tank Aak's S3 with no problem at all. Saria's S3, Gnosis S3, and Suzu all work amazingly as usual. Reedalter's S2 synergizes perfectly with Vivi as the arts fragility from Cinder is amazing, and the AOE helps Vivi not leak off-cooldown. When Iana comes to Global she'll be another really good option.
Pram and Skyfire are two of the best to bring with Viviana imo. Skyfire's talent is insane for the triple hit on S3 or amping the double hits on S2. And Prams Res reduction and Fragility (and weakness) is great for every situation that Vivi would typically struggle in (like Ch.9 Refraction buff).
I really like the versatility Viviana has. She's not the best at anything, but she can be pretty great at everything. Almost like she's a well-rounded unit that's unfortunately lost in a sea of massively overpowered units. The mantra is set a new standard for broken, or be forgotten.
Either way, I've M6'd Vivi and enjoying her so much.
Ok… Glad to see that my 2 Viviana’s in UNDER 100 PULLS was not a complete letdown…
the fact that nothing from her boss form made it into the playable viviana is so sad, im literally edging rn
Lessing is a chad
In summary
Candle woman L Cello warcrimes W
Cello
Now I’m sad… But then again… I don’t have any arts guards other than mousse…
Calling an Operator that isn't Gummy amazing. You sit on a throne of lies like the Dokutah, Supah.
Pull for and raise Viviana, got it! Thanks!
You know its a good day to pull when even SUPAH says your planned operator is a real good unit. REJOICE, TOXIC RELATIONSHIP GAMERS!
the 4star unit is basically chakram aphelios in arknights.
definitely gunning for that
Did this guy just spoil me on JJK? Nah that's wild
"She better have a gun because pepper spray cannot stop me" had me stop the video and laugh and forget this is an arknights video
but Vivianna hot
Yes, I don't know how a candle can be hotter than a volcano but she is really hot probably the hottest in the game
Too bad you can't have her
Because you will get NTR
L take lil bro. Arturia 🔛🔝
@@Vadikus2424 both. Both is good
@@Therestrial205 Why NTR? Is Nearl also in the banner?/j
Gutes Video 🍺
I was really exited for Viviana when she was announced and quickly got disappointed hopefully she will get a module that will fix her
"Pepper spray will not stop me" XD
Virtuosa: Traps you in an abusive relationship
Me: sign me up
I failed to get Arturia got viviana and mountain
bruh
at least i got skalter im happy now
i agree with you man, like WHY DID THEY JUST NOT MAKE HER A SPLASH CASTER FOR GOTTS SAKE!
Damn people nowadays talk about viviana like the second coming of passenger on release
Diamante has the best design ever
I must say, the way u explain is both understandable and hilarious :D
New video worth the wait, never disappoints
Bassline is kinda cute
Caper's thigh beauty mark is making me think, for sure.
I just pulled Viviana. I will max her and she will replace my Surtr with her.
I despise meta stuff, so I will always look to switch out operators with worse versions if they look nice.
Did the "thanks you" ritual and got both of them in single 10pulls
I’m astonished that Viviana is somehow worse than Lessing.
As someone unfocused, aimless, literally watching on my phone while rollerblading, I just had to comment (while still skating):
Viviana kitb just like me fr
Viviana is cool in concept, but just doesn't work in practice. Shes basically a duelist guard but for bosses, but most bosses can literally be erased from existence with (any meta dps) plus Warfarin and Suzuran, so there is basically no reason to have her.
"trap you in a abusive manipulative relationship"
i am sold, i go all out on her
Thank you SUPAH for giving me both waifus in 50 pulls.
Caper is literally Aphelios with his Chakram man
A parrot once said: i don't want to fix her, i want her to break me
love these vids m8
One thing to note for lessing is that he has worse dps than no module skadi when it comes to somewhere around 1000 def, and anything below that just use yato lmao
Took me 220 pulls for Arturia and I am not struggling for my life to survive the coming headliners and getting them all. My wallet will truly suffer for the first time in two years.
When do we get the Candle Knight?No idea who this Viviana is
Candle Knight are the most wasted potential unit to mimick her boss form for her combat skill. I could literaly imagine her s3 skill basicaly a charge art nuker where she charge her ability for few seconds and enemies inside her charge area will get their invisible remove and when the charge is full she just nuke them and give them stun. This version we have are just feels so rushed to develop her kit.
What a great day to pull one Arturia and SIX Viviana...
Arturia will trivializes Dusk event's mechanic if she was there.
2:23 Sign me up!
I enjoyed every second i spend on this video.
I willingly let Arturia deteriorate my sanity
Hey i didn't remember the abusive relationship in arturia skill 3 but goddamn i hope it's infinite duration
I just got Viviana & was looking everywhere for her nuke skill, guess she just forgot to bring it 😅
I disagree with Vivian being bad. I do agree that they should have done better with her but shes not bad.
Surtr is a helidrop unit that clears all enemies and then dies.
Vivian is ment to stay on field. And duel tough enemies that come in every once and a while.
Again I do agree they should have done her better, but to say shes just bad is not true. She has a niche and preforms it well.
Supah: no negative comments for Arturia
Arknights community: pull for Arturia 😅
you cant call caper the first good new archetype in the video with the limited ritualist
You know, now that I think about it, even the developers prefer Arturia over Viviana, considering Arturia is the only one between them with an animated portrait (at least according to the banner).
Which sucks because as characters I liked Viviana more, the idea of a swordswoman with a candle sounds nice, but I guess it is what it is
Her portrait is animated because she is the limited of the banner, it's like that for all limited banners
I Farmed For CAPER
Posted By The Joker unbeknownst to Batman
So this banner we have insane manipulative waifu, the Astesia powercreep, mid Melantha, worse Nearl, and cunny 😭.
Decent banner ngl.
Ah, but Viviana is my waifu. She might as well die in 2 hits. Also she helped me beat 4-4 and 4-10 so she'll stay in my team permanently
bruh i pulled 3 fucking viviana's fml
Even her candles got nerfed in the playable chibi compared to the boss.
I got a 10 pull with 2 six stars in it and they were BOTH Viviana. I hate my life.
real talk i think 4th skills would be really fucking cool for when they fumble ops like vivianas first 3.
somehow i got 7 viviana and 0 virtuosa
Certified “hear me out” moment
Welp, 270 pulls in, 2 bad off rates, triple Viviana combo deluxe, and no virtuosa. I only wanted virtuosa…. And only 5 six stars in 270 pulls?? Still sparking texalter tho
i refuse to believe this man's arknight's most hated content creator he's so informative and funny. "she better have a gun because pepper spray will not stop me" he's a mf'ing word smith
I wanted candle knight coz she the first boss I beat on my own…got the murderous musical lady twice
I will never get over or forgive HG for not giving Viviana her Flashy-Flashy-Boom-Boom nuke magic. Is she ok? Yea but she had so much more potential than just Astesia Powercreep and it got wasted. Will still try for her because our girl needs headpats and consolation for injustice done to her.
As for Arturia, getting into a relationship with her is no doubt going to be the biggest mistake of my life but it'll be the best biggest mistake of my life.
I got Virtuosa... And four Vivianas before her... Oh well
actually funny clip xD
Like it
just like limited banner. you cannot have both powerhouse at same banner. the one must be mid/awful.
Stainless is my 2nd 6 stars.
Viviana is 3rd. The 4th i bought with certs. What's going to be the 5th? VIGIL?
Imagine having my luck
Viviana the pretty Maiden who fail to get a game design working :(
I only get Arturia when recruiting but 0 Maiden
We'll have to wait for Viviana Alter. Lol
Wonder what they could give Viviana via module that might actually fix her slightly.
Flat RES ignore so her damage could compete with Surtr's a bit better would be nice.
The main problem is Surtr getting her own module at the same time.
@@Lukashoffmann94 Couldn't you just use Sutr AND Viviana? I don't see why it would be a vs situation. Plus her voice actor went HAM
@@mercurialblonde If you want to, sure.
No res ignore, 47s setup time and the 15s uptime on her s3 just hurts and will most likely bar her from truly difficult stages.
@@Lukashoffmann94 she's pretty tanky though
I wish they can make Shirayuki the same archetype like Caper
Arturia took my entire stash to get D:, 3 rate offs is really unlucky even for me. Now I don't know how I'm gonna spark Ling :/
They can make degen to have nuke, but not with Viviana is hilarious 😂
Don't worry the alter 2 years from now will make her actually resemble her as a boss
Help me.. i cant decide which voice to use on gummy. English or russian?
even tho i like viviana this thing is the peak of youtube content 😂
I will keep saying it, If it wasnt for Megumin's ct Sukuna would have lost.
@SUPAH when video reaction on new Gummy voice?
See...the thing is..when one of the two units at limited banner is bad im skipping 100%😊..imagine going 100pulls and getting viviana
Is it possible they could give Viv a buff?
Actually, isnt Viviana being grossly underrated?
imo, viviana is an arts tank, not an arts fighter.
imo to use her properly:
1. use her vs elite/boss tt deals arts dmg - so take 16% less arts dmg
2. use with nightingale to give another 15 res for 30 base res (that is 30% res reduction)|
3. 84% * 0.7 = 58.8 % arts dmg taken only before skills are on
4. Only Nightingale skill is on, res becomes 45% - meaning arts dmg taken is only 46.2%
5. Only Viviana skill is on, res becomes 15 + 15 + 25 = 55 res = only 37.8% arts dmg taken
6. Both nightingale and Viviana skill is on = 82.5 res = 14.7 % arts dmg taken
7. Not to mention, nightingale s3 gives arts dodge
8. Viviana s3 shield will guard vs a hybrid boss's physical atk fully.
So isnt Viviana is an incredible arts tank that will out tank mudrock and hoshiguma who cant really tank arts dmg? A.k.a. Viviana is the best arts tank in the game right now. (Not to mention her base def and skill def up results in even higher def than gavial)
Thank god i got arturia first so i dont have to pull anymore