@@4WDisLife One difference is that the Tundra's ATRAC is automated, so you have to keep a steady throttle in the right RPM range to keep it engaged (vs a button on the 4Runner). It's the same system, but the fact that you have to keep steady throttle means you have a greater chance to slide side to side, or jump forward in the Tundra, which increases the chances of sliding into an obstacle or damaging something. Very capable, but no doubt an actual locker is gonna give you way more control at lower speeds/throttle, which is pretty much always better. With the Tundra you're going to be using momentum and consistent throttle to get over things, which just increases the chances of something going wrong. I've also found that ATRAC tends to struggle a little more with a larger tire size, which isn't surprising since it's using breaking to do its thing. Stopping that larger, heavier tire is harder for the system to do.
@@4WDisLife cool thanks. how would rate the complexity of the job? would you suggest finding "the best heart surgeon" or is this something the "local urgent care" can handle (and not kill me or my truck LOL)
@@johnshue8082 I’d say as long as you get the gears from a reputable hearing shop (pre assembled by ECGS in my case) it seems pretty straightforward so a good mechanic would be able to handle.
I bought mine new from Eaton for my 93 4 Runner for $1200 and had them rebuild the rear 3rd member with new bearings seals and races and have it all set up for $2200 wish I thought was a fair price. That was last summer. But I still have not got the switch wired in yet to try it out. My 38.5 Super Swamper Boggers should give it a good workout lol.
I’ve never seen a Diff with that much different meanings. Half of the owners say it’s the best option you can buy others said its not good engineerd. But where’s the truth ? Im about to buy a tundra (2013 or newer) and a really need a Diff lock because of towing very often under tricky conditions. So theres a Air locker but i don’t like the space you need for the airpump and everything so that’s how i came up to this. But after reading many opinions and watching different videos im very confused what to buy 🤔
if you are to get a rear locker for our generation tundra, I'd say go with eaton e-locker, I haven't heard any cons of them in terms of reliability and they are a better system over arb air locker because I too dislike the multisystem dependent air locker design.
@@4WDisLife Hm ok. Seems i really have to think about the e locker. But thirst things first, I need a tundra. But the climped the price expectation a bit too fast here in Europe 🙈🙈
This is why i hate IFS. If that truck had a solid front axle, it would have easily crossed that little depression without needing 4wd much less a locker.
@@4WDisLife IFS is only good for pre-runner type desert racing, and even then you have to spend big money on long travel kits. Other than that, they are trash for off-road use. As I said, a solid axle would have you through that little ditch without even needing a locker. A solid axle will get you over obstacles. A solid axle will keep your tires on the ground instead of lifting them in the air, where they do you no good. A solid axle is strong and much less likely to break. And despite popular belief, a solid axle can very well be every bit as comfortable on-road as IFS. If you honestly think IFS is better, I would really suspect that you have never done any serious off-roading with a solid front axle.
Thank you for a great demonstration! The lockers are a must have for offroad driving.
Very nice demonstration. I liked the specific situations you chose to show where a locker makes a difference in getting through that sort of terrain.
It's clear that ATRAC on a tundra is not as effective as a rear locker.
Great video. 👍
100% feel the same way, I come from a 4th gen 4runner and to me, the 4runner had a much more aggressive atrac vs my tundra.
@@4WDisLife One difference is that the Tundra's ATRAC is automated, so you have to keep a steady throttle in the right RPM range to keep it engaged (vs a button on the 4Runner). It's the same system, but the fact that you have to keep steady throttle means you have a greater chance to slide side to side, or jump forward in the Tundra, which increases the chances of sliding into an obstacle or damaging something. Very capable, but no doubt an actual locker is gonna give you way more control at lower speeds/throttle, which is pretty much always better. With the Tundra you're going to be using momentum and consistent throttle to get over things, which just increases the chances of something going wrong.
I've also found that ATRAC tends to struggle a little more with a larger tire size, which isn't surprising since it's using breaking to do its thing. Stopping that larger, heavier tire is harder for the system to do.
FINALLY :D looking good man! Making me want one bad now!
Haha. Thank you! You won’t regret getting it!
I Did a flex test today with my friends Tundra. Not surprisingly he has better flex than my Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk.
Lockers are a must have, wouldn’t be able to go to a rig without one.
Can’t agree more.
Yeah Locker was the right move!
Any trouble yet with the locker or differential?
Nope. So far so good. Knock on wood.
Awesome video man!
Thanks!
Great video! Which locker did you install?
Rear.
Definitely worth it
I priced this out and it was just too much to justify for my uses. I had to really have a talk with myself...did I need it, or did I want it?
I completely agree. End of the day it all comes down to what you need va nice to have.
How dare you be responsible with your finances! There’s no room for that in the aftermarket 😀
@@TobyCostaRica Don't give me too much credit, I've bought a lot of things I don't need 😂
Night and day difference!
Thank you!
I use my Tundra to climb a 20 percent graveled road frequently. After playing with the ATRAC and seeing its failures I'm going to find an e locker.
what psi would you recommend to air down to? I know it depends on the tire but I was just wondering :)
My personal preference for my setup is around 18-22psi
@@4WDisLife good to know thanks!
@@04adventures FWIW I run 20 on trails and hard surfaces, and 15 on the sand. This is on an 18" wheel with 295's. Never had any issues
question. Why do I commonly see offroaders use all-terrain tires? when mud terrains can do a better job in usually every terrain
I guess because most people need to drive a lot on road as well and they are only Offroad around 10% of the time.
@@4WDisLife true
I think it was definitely worth it
So do I :)
Put a link for the locker it worked really well 👍
Google “east coast gear supply tundra rear locker”
May I inquire how much total $ for the locker and installation? Pondering about this, thanks.
3-4k depending on labor
@@4WDisLife cool thanks. how would rate the complexity of the job? would you suggest finding "the best heart surgeon" or is this something the "local urgent care" can handle (and not kill me or my truck LOL)
@@johnshue8082 I’d say as long as you get the gears from a reputable hearing shop (pre assembled by ECGS in my case) it seems pretty straightforward so a good mechanic would be able to handle.
@@4WDisLife Thanks!
Where did you bought the rear lock from who installed for you and How much it cost thank you
East coast gear supply.
It’s been a while. How it’s holding up?
It’s been great, knock on woods, problem free so far.
What size lift and tires are you running?
2inch front. One inch rear. Tire size in this video was 315/70r17
How much for the hardware and install?
3.5k - 3.7k ish.
How reliable is that rear locker?
So far so good. Knock on wood
Do you have an installation video of your rear lockers?
If you check out my previous videos, I do have one that’s kinda showing how it’s done in terms of swapping out the third member
What was the total cost of the locker plus install?
You're looking at 2 kilobucks!🙄
locker around 1.8k in parts plus however much labor they cost to be installed normally it totals to around 3k
@@4WDisLife Oof…glad you got it, but MAN is that pricey!
@@TradesmanOutdoorAdventures yea man it was definitely the biggest offroad upgrade.
I bought mine new from Eaton for my 93 4 Runner for $1200 and had them rebuild the rear 3rd member with new bearings seals and races and have it all set up for $2200 wish I thought was a fair price. That was last summer. But I still have not got the switch wired in yet to try it out. My 38.5 Super Swamper Boggers should give it a good workout lol.
I’ve never seen a Diff with that much different meanings. Half of the owners say it’s the best option you can buy others said its not good engineerd. But where’s the truth ? Im about to buy a tundra (2013 or newer) and a really need a Diff lock because of towing very often under tricky conditions. So theres a Air locker but i don’t like the space you need for the airpump and everything so that’s how i came up to this. But after reading many opinions and watching different videos im very confused what to buy 🤔
if you are to get a rear locker for our generation tundra, I'd say go with eaton e-locker, I haven't heard any cons of them in terms of reliability and they are a better system over arb air locker because I too dislike the multisystem dependent air locker design.
@@4WDisLife Hm ok. Seems i really have to think about the e locker. But thirst things first, I need a tundra. But the climped the price expectation a bit too fast here in Europe 🙈🙈
I just want to buy this so i can drift offroad in my tundra better lol
haha don’t let it stop you from going iut
Real off road Trucks shld all come w lockers.
City or work trucks can do without lol.
This is why i hate IFS. If that truck had a solid front axle, it would have easily crossed that little depression without needing 4wd much less a locker.
Pros and cons with each. Personally I prefer the ifs
@@4WDisLife IFS is only good for pre-runner type desert racing, and even then you have to spend big money on long travel kits. Other than that, they are trash for off-road use.
As I said, a solid axle would have you through that little ditch without even needing a locker.
A solid axle will get you over obstacles. A solid axle will keep your tires on the ground instead of lifting them in the air, where they do you no good. A solid axle is strong and much less likely to break.
And despite popular belief, a solid axle can very well be every bit as comfortable on-road as IFS.
If you honestly think IFS is better, I would really suspect that you have never done any serious off-roading with a solid front axle.
@@KurNorock guess I got the right one since I daily mine. So solid axle would be trash in 90% of the situation for my needs
@@4WDisLife Except that it isn't. As I already pointed out, a solid axle with modern suspension is every bit as good on road as IFS.
@@KurNorock respectfully disagree