Just ordered up the XP 2.0 today. I'm a 68 year old 6ft tall guy so I appreciate your attention to detail about the seat height adjustment. Couldn't justify the extra cost for the rad and the 2.0 has front suspension! Really a cult thing starting with us retired RV guys And the XP!😎
My wife and I just purchased 2 lectric xp. One is the step thru for my wife and the normal Xp. This video has giving me hope that I made the right choice.thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the Post , Very Interesting . By the way I now have 1400 off road miles on my Rad Rover Step Thru 1 Problem free . As soon as the warranty is out I will start the upgrade process Motor Controller and a Color Display
Great video. Nice comparison. I actually own and ride the Rad Mini Stepthru. It's perfect for as I have war torn knees and hips, and the low step thru design makes it easy for me to mount. I have last years model, and actually prefer it to this years model. The tires are wider and has a smoother tread which makes it much quieter on the road, plus the wires are wrapped together a bit tighter. The break cable isn't out in the wind, so to speak. What I like about the newer model is that it comes with fenders. Great for those days when you get caught out in the rain. I like what your dad did regarding the mirror arrangement. Much mahalo!
Thanks for pointing out the differences. I am 6'6" tall and weigh 250 pounds. Knowing the seat height adjustment I am going with the lectric. (Cost was very persuasive alsl)
I have had my RadRover now for about two weeks. I bought the seat you had recommended and many thanks for that, even my man stuff thanks you. However, I know now that getting a Rover for the Mrs. is out of the question. The Rover is a really big bike. Too tall for her to use, she can just touch the ground with her toes on the Rover. These two look really interesting and certainly open up some possibilities. Thanks for this review. Very helpful.
@D Larson Actually, we just watched a video for the RadMission. She likes that it is smaller and only 47 pounds. But we will look at the City because the Mission, is bare bones and there will be options added and the City has more pizazz.
Nice job! Stepping through the Rad display settings, the "1" is the setting where you can adjust the display backlight brightness. The backlight is on briefly on boot up and on constantly when the headlight is on. Keep up the nice work.
Nice comparison.I was looking at these two but in the end chose the XP. It’s been a great 20 inch fat tire folding ebike so far.I preferred the look,bang for buck and I didn’t need a front shock and I like the hidden battery.
Very informative. We just subscribed to your channel. Getting ready to watch your part II. So far pretty nice professional TH-cam content. We own a set of Lectric's one XP and the other Step Thru. Nice to see you know about the bike and are able to relay it in basic terms to your viewers. Nicely done.
Cool video, and you kinda think like me when you have two similar products. I'd say the Lectric tires are better for getting back on a paved surface after going off into the wet grass, but the Kenda tires are smoother for paved riding and still get good grip in mud. That reflective stripe really stands out at night. Both headlights have the glowing bezel that can be seen from the side, but the Rad headlight has the hood to keep it from distracting the rider. The Rad Mini Stepthru 2 has the wires inside the frame, but the RadMini 4 has the wires on the bottom, and the controller and cable bundle gets covered in mud and water almost every time I ride. No issues though, so good water resistance apparently. The Lectric battery placement looks better and is more protected, but if you store your bike outdoors like a shed or garage in cold climates, I think I'd get annoyed at the extra work involved in removing the battery to bring it indoors. With the Rad, battery removal is as easy as it gets. The battery position is good on the stepthru, but on the regular mini, the battery is behind the seat tube facing the other way, and this position collects mud in the crevices. You have to use a nylon brush to clean out the lock tabs so grit does not tear up the surfaces and make the battery loose after time. The Lectric key position looks like an afterthought, and I would hate having the key there while riding, especially getting splashed with mud. I like the Lectric rack and it's a strong design. Not only does the Rad not come with a rack, but you can't buy one from Rad either right now. I had to make my own. Altus is a low mid-level derailleur, Tourney is low level. First gear on the Rad is great, and I've climbed some inclines so steep I had to lean forward to keep the front wheel on the ground! The support bar ground clearance on the regular RadMini is 7.5 inches. I could get the correct seat position with the stock RadMini seat post (I'm 5" 10"), but my Satori suspension post is 50 mm shorter, and is not tall enough. Your dad has the same bottle holder as me! The RadMini 4 also has NO mounting bosses except for the front rack. I like the Lectric display better, and don't like that the Rad trip odometer erases when turned off. That's a BIG price difference!
On the points you listed, I'd have to say overall the Rad wins. But the price on the Lectric is nice. And I do like the idea of the battery and the controller being inside the frame; it's protected from more than just wetness, but bashing too
Warning below: Nice video and looks like a excellent bikes, but I have found Lectric policy everyone should know and particularly International and Canada if you read their no return policy, its basically a “buy it at your own risk” and no returns. Website Policy: You may cancel your order for a full refund up until the time you receive your shipment confirmation email with tracking information. If you cancel after your order has been sent you are responsible for the return shipping fee. In addition, the original shipping fee we incurred to send the bike to you will not be refunded (even when ‘free’ shipping is advertised). Our refund policy is ‘All Sales Final’. Unfortunately, we can’t offer a refund or exchange after the bike has shipped.
@@danthemansmail I have ordered the XP Step Thru and I will probably get it either next week or the week after that. One of the main reasons was because I was income limited and got a $600 stimulus payment. Another reason is that the extra battery packs are about the least expensive per Kilowatt hour so I should purchase some more battery packs for long rides. Also I have a Veltop Windshield (ordered online from France) with cover attachment for riding in the rain as where I live it rains a lot. Also I have to wear leg gaiters so that road spray won't hose down my legs. I have a Pannier with a truck bag so that will keep the motor dry but I might have to look over some areas which I might have to rainproof. Using my Veltop attachment on a step thru bike it will be much easier to get on and off the bike as my overhear canvas cover attaches behind the seat. I had an issue with fiberglass connecting rods that held up the Veltop canvas cover break often so I replaced them by cutting two stainless steel CB whip antennas to the same length and using them instead. This also made the windshield more stable so it had much less of a tendency to flop forwards and backwards on rides annoyingly.. In addition when I used the stainless steel whip antennas cut to the right length it additionally mad a good deflopilator as well. I used the Veltop attachment years before and I could ride like a king on the road just like a person with a convertible car with the window rolled down. I did this for thousands of miles about 3,000 or so. I could ride in the rain when almost no other cyclists dared. The only time that I didn't ride was in high wind storms and when there was snow and ice on the roads. My last ebike (RadRover) was destroyed in a hit and run accident where someone in a pickup truck went at high speeds through a red light and I was in the crosswalk with a walk signal. I turned and saw no one in the cab (perhaps the person dropped something to pick up) and I pedaled as fast as I could to get out of the way. The driver hit my rear wheel by the motor but fortunately I missed getting hit by about a foot. The driver did slam on his or her brake after realizing they hit something but then quickly fled to avoid responsibility for an accident. So this ebike will be a replacement for what I had two years ago. The lesson that I learned is that I am going to get and pay for Velosurance (bicycle insurance) to be covered for loss and replacement which hopefully won't happen again.
Dude thank you so much for making this review I am in the market for an electric bike and was so confused about which one to get but you pretty much made it very clear the XP is the way to go the only thing I don't like about the XPS simply because where the key goes and the fact that I have to keep it in while riding that I'm sure can be a little irritated other than that can't beat the price
It would be awesome for the LECTRIC & RAD guys to get together, and for them to take the best of both bikes and put them all on one bike!! At this time I'm patiently waiting for my wife's white XP to arrive.
I actually like the Rad better right up until the price difference also, the Lectric has a V 2.0 available now with front suspension and a few other upgrades. You can really kit out the Lectric with some accessories for the same money as the Rad. Battery placement on the Rad is so much nicer IMO being able to take it out without folding the bike is a big bonus to me.
Wow! Loads of information. Excellent! You really delved into it! Pretty big price difference but I think the Rad is better. But then again I'm partial.
That Letric reach to handle bars looks a lot longer than the 18” on the Rad. Width of the tire can affect for mass trans commenters, as a four” tire is a bit over the limit for hanging the bike on a hook on commuter trainers. I understand the Rad bar is tapered, so a phone mount can slide as you ride.
Great comparison and one potential clarification. You state both bikes are shipped set to be a class 2 bike which I know is true with Rads shipped at 32kph (@ 20mph). Then you state the Lectric can be programmed to become class 3 when set at 45kph (@ 28mph) max. and the Rad cannot achieve class 3 status with its settings only going to 40kph (@ 25mph). My understanding is any assistance above 20mph up to 28mph is class 3, so setting the Rad at 40kph (@ 25mph) does deem it to become a class 3 when set to 40. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the classifications but wanted to point that out for what it's worth. Always enjoy your videos and thanks for all the information!
Replacement arrived!By the way, I did forget to mention that the original lure did have a decent strike however as most anglers will attest you can get a hit th-cam.com/users/postUgkxCbNOWAGmn6nfbCbJDmasvBq7J38KZNw2 and fish will hang on and release lure. I used the replacement lure yesterday and ran thru a Shimano Waxwing, Kastmaster, Bobber (set to sink). I found the does run deep (I casting on the flats 3.5'). Make sure you adjust your rate of retrieve and rod tip angle (up) to prevent getting snagged on bottom. Used it a couple of times and action was very lifelike (looked like local bait fish for trevally), craftsmanship very good....however eyeball fell out. I asked for replacement and it is on it's way! It was very easy to change out treble to single inline hook.
I have over 1000 mi on my Lectric XP. Love the bike, but no the tires are not as good as Kenda. I have had 2 flats with no off-road. The tires are really thin. I had the local bike shop add Mr. Tuffy tire liners (cost about $110 including install). We'll see how those perform. Other than the tires, I have no complaints.
The XP is winning this review hands down so far. Less money, more peak power and other smaller details that I just like. ( Concealed battery, metal fenders etc). But I will wait till part two to see if there are deal breaking flaws in rideability.
How do you guys feel about the Rad for kids? Like 8-10 years old who normally would ride a 20” bike. The seat would need to be all the way down I assume. But I do not see how the handlebars can be lowered a lot.
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Amazing I was exactly looking for these two bikes... however I still can't decide. I prefer the lectric design and price, however the front suspension is heart broken.
@@CitizenCycle925 I'm installing one as an auxiliary to my bars. I'm going to put my accessories on it and the mirrors on the ends, away from my handlebars for safety clearance and to better facilitate the winter ROCKBRO POGUES. The mirrors dont allow the pogues to slide on far enough. I've been riding in BLIZZARDS for 50 years! I know a thing or two about cycling. Long before it became " fashionable ".... I ordered a 25.5 mm 'straight bar' to replace my short auxiliary bar.. good place for the gopro spare bell, etc.
Not knocking Rad Bikes at all, as I built and sold them for a short while in a local new store, before I went back into " retirement "... I ride a VOLTBIKE made by the same Chinese company! They build for several stores and businesses.... they are highly upgradeable and very useful in getting back into 'shape '! FREY bikes would be the most logical step UP in my opinion! Feel free to ask any questions, as I've only been "retired " a short while. LUNA cylces for the speed freak and sporty set!
I think that $1,000 should be a hard price point that ebikes should respect. Personally, I don’t anticipate spending that much for my needs. But north of $1k getting into to nice motorcycle or dirt bike 🏍 budget
I am very concerned about safety and from my perspective you missed the most important difference between the 2 bikes. The Rad Mini Step thru has a break light that is active all of the time while riding. This feature plus the freewheel with a lower low gear and a higher high gear means I am going to choose the Rad over the XP. But for someone who wants to be able to convert to a class 3 easily then the Lectric would probably be the best choice though in that model I would prefer the step thru as well. There are a lot of other things I prefer on the Rad. The larger battery is a big one, the USB off the display is nice for charging a mounted phone. Having grips that allow for a mirror to be mounted to the end of the handle bar is nice, as is and having 2" more on the handlebar to mount things and it comes with a bell. The Rad has the front suspension and larger break thing and not having to mess with the Lectric's underneath key that has to stay in is a plus. I have seen reviews criticizing the Rad tires but I understand the second generation ships with knobier tires that work better off road. Unfortunately the Rad is out of stock (i/29) with no idea when they will be in.
Have you reviewed the Yamee Fat Bear Plus 750w? I'm am thinking of getting Rad Rover ? Himiway Crusier ? Yamee Fat Bear Plus 750w ? Plan on using it for hunting...mostly off road trails. Thinking the Yamee might store in my pickup truck with topper on it easier because it folds. Any input please Thank you
The rad tires are better, they are knobby road tires that will give a big more stability in sand and stuff like that. K-shield is great. they cut a few corners on the Lectric to keep the cost down.
I wonder if anyone who bought their XP over a year ago had a problem with the taillight grinding against the fender? I think they may have fixed this, but the clearance between my taillight and the fender is less than 1/4". If a person was to sit on it, it would br scraping the paint. I put a bunch of super long washers on mine and it pushed it out to a postion where it wasnt so bad, but it still touches. The palm grips will move.I have to twist mone back every day or so.
Subscribed! Thank you so much for this review :-) it looks like if I'm going to spend that kind of money the Brompton electric would be better than the rad bike but this lectric bike looks like quite a peach :-)
It's like the electric Xp I have got cyrusher xf590 and got the same display and I tried customising it P1 came up on the screen but I was scared I messed it up so so I turn it back to normal the manual is in Japanese can't understand it if you can find out about it I will be grateful if you could get some information about it also want to find out if you can do cruise controller on it
battery run...? do you mean is the battery losing charge as you pedal? if you have the pedal assist on then yes. and the higher the pedal assist setting, the more battery you are using.
I saw a dude today riding an Onyx in Knoxville TN. I thought either this guy has big balls or doesn't know the laws or I'm wrong. Either way I want that and just said nice Onyx bro.
Totally wanted to see this video until you said that you wouldn’t explain the implications of the differences and your preferences. As someone who knows nothing about bikes, I need that.
@@CitizenCycle925 Don't let the battery run out, might ruin the battery. I force my 26" bike to help me reached my home, getting dark and the battery went dead. When I reached home I tried to charge it, it went green right away full, but its not. Bought a new battery for 300 bucks. Now I charged it after use.
Just ordered up the XP 2.0 today. I'm a 68 year old 6ft tall guy so I appreciate your attention to detail about the seat height adjustment. Couldn't justify the extra cost for the rad and the 2.0 has front suspension! Really a cult thing starting with us retired RV guys And the XP!😎
This probably the most anticipated review of two Ebikes ever.
Hopefully it was useful if you are considering both. More to come...
My wife and I just purchased 2 lectric xp. One is the step thru for my wife and the normal Xp. This video has giving me hope that I made the right choice.thanks for sharing.
very nice, yes the lectric is the better performer for sure, hope they work out for you. :)
Thank you this review. We purchased our pair of Lectric xp which arrived 3 weeks ago. Your video has helped us first first time e- bike owners.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the Post , Very Interesting . By the way I now have 1400 off road miles on my Rad Rover Step Thru 1 Problem free . As soon as the warranty is out I will start the upgrade process Motor Controller and a Color Display
Thank you. Yours is the most informative of all the electric bike videos I have watched.
Great video. Nice comparison. I actually own and ride the Rad Mini Stepthru. It's perfect for as I have war torn knees and hips, and the low step thru design makes it easy for me to mount. I have last years model, and actually prefer it to this years model. The tires are wider and has a smoother tread which makes it much quieter on the road, plus the wires are wrapped together a bit tighter. The break cable isn't out in the wind, so to speak. What I like about the newer model is that it comes with fenders. Great for those days when you get caught out in the rain. I like what your dad did regarding the mirror arrangement. Much mahalo!
Thanks for pointing out the differences. I am 6'6" tall and weigh 250 pounds. Knowing the seat height adjustment I am going with the lectric. (Cost was very persuasive alsl)
Both bikes are very nice I personally would prefer the Radmini Stepthru. Great job on the video!
Have you checked out the lectric step through?
I have had my RadRover now for about two weeks. I bought the seat you had recommended and many thanks for that, even my man stuff thanks you. However, I know now that getting a Rover for the Mrs. is out of the question. The Rover is a really big bike. Too tall for her to use, she can just touch the ground with her toes on the Rover. These two look really interesting and certainly open up some possibilities. Thanks for this review. Very helpful.
@D Larson Actually, we just watched a video for the RadMission. She likes that it is smaller and only 47 pounds. But we will look at the City because the Mission, is bare bones and there will be options added and the City has more pizazz.
love your videos. Nice to have a real regular guy doing these.
Nice job! Stepping through the Rad display settings, the "1" is the setting where you can adjust the display backlight brightness. The backlight is on briefly on boot up and on constantly when the headlight is on. Keep up the nice work.
Nice comparison.I was looking at these two but in the end chose the XP. It’s been a great 20 inch fat tire folding ebike so far.I preferred the look,bang for buck and I didn’t need a front shock and I like the hidden battery.
Very informative. We just subscribed to your channel. Getting ready to watch your part II. So far pretty nice professional TH-cam content. We own a set of Lectric's one XP and the other Step Thru. Nice to see you know about the bike and are able to relay it in basic terms to your viewers. Nicely done.
Great comparison! Lynn and I just got Letric XP step-thrus and love them. Thanks for.sharing, looking forward to part 2.
~ Danny & Lynn
Enjoy those bikes and enjoy your travels!
Looking forward to the riding video and performance differences.
The Altus is one class up in the Shimano line, the Tourney is the entry level one.
Cool video, and you kinda think like me when you have two similar products. I'd say the Lectric tires are better for getting back on a paved surface after going off into the wet grass, but the Kenda tires are smoother for paved riding and still get good grip in mud. That reflective stripe really stands out at night. Both headlights have the glowing bezel that can be seen from the side, but the Rad headlight has the hood to keep it from distracting the rider.
The Rad Mini Stepthru 2 has the wires inside the frame, but the RadMini 4 has the wires on the bottom, and the controller and cable bundle gets covered in mud and water almost every time I ride. No issues though, so good water resistance apparently. The Lectric battery placement looks better and is more protected, but if you store your bike outdoors like a shed or garage in cold climates, I think I'd get annoyed at the extra work involved in removing the battery to bring it indoors. With the Rad, battery removal is as easy as it gets. The battery position is good on the stepthru, but on the regular mini, the battery is behind the seat tube facing the other way, and this position collects mud in the crevices. You have to use a nylon brush to clean out the lock tabs so grit does not tear up the surfaces and make the battery loose after time. The Lectric key position looks like an afterthought, and I would hate having the key there while riding, especially getting splashed with mud.
I like the Lectric rack and it's a strong design. Not only does the Rad not come with a rack, but you can't buy one from Rad either right now. I had to make my own. Altus is a low mid-level derailleur, Tourney is low level. First gear on the Rad is great, and I've climbed some inclines so steep I had to lean forward to keep the front wheel on the ground! The support bar ground clearance on the regular RadMini is 7.5 inches. I could get the correct seat position with the stock RadMini seat post (I'm 5" 10"), but my Satori suspension post is 50 mm shorter, and is not tall enough. Your dad has the same bottle holder as me! The RadMini 4 also has NO mounting bosses except for the front rack.
I like the Lectric display better, and don't like that the Rad trip odometer erases when turned off. That's a BIG price difference!
PS: I found out the Lectric overheats and cuts power under heavy throttle or big hills. Just thought I'd mention that for those in hilly areas.
@@Altema22 Thank you for your comment......I’m in the market for an ebike and your assessment helped.
On the points you listed, I'd have to say overall the Rad wins. But the price on the Lectric is nice. And I do like the idea of the battery and the controller being inside the frame; it's protected from more than just wetness, but bashing too
Thanks for that, we are looking between the two. Ive watched so many I keep forgetting the difference. Suspention on front forks
Excellent side by side and item by item coverage of the difference. Thanks. Including price
Subscribed because of how detailed these comparisons are. Thanks it was informative
Warning below: Nice video and looks like a excellent bikes, but I have found Lectric policy everyone should know and particularly International and Canada if you read their no return policy, its basically a “buy it at your own risk” and no returns.
Website Policy:
You may cancel your order for a full refund up until the time you receive your shipment confirmation email with tracking information. If you cancel after your order has been sent you are responsible for the return shipping fee. In addition, the original shipping fee we incurred to send the bike to you will not be refunded (even when ‘free’ shipping is advertised). Our refund policy is ‘All Sales Final’. Unfortunately, we can’t offer a refund or exchange after the bike has shipped.
Excellent review comparison! Can’t wait for part 2.
The price is the one that made me buy the Lectriic, very good comparison, makes my decision easier.
Dad is in the background watching Jr. I have the XP. It's the best bike in my opinion. Been riding bikes 60 years.
Nice video! Looking forward to part 2. 👍
Watched all 3 videos, so very helpful to make my decision. Looks like XP for me. Thank you!
Great job on the video I really like the Ten rounds of information you went through it was really great and I enjoyed watching it
That was so helpful as I have been looking at the two bikes. Thanks!
I love my Lectric XP. Best thing I ever did was order one 💯💪🏼
Happy you did this video! We just got our lectric bikes
I have the Lectric XP and I love it!
Thinking about getting my wife a step through bike was going with rad now thinking about buying lectric any thoughts?
@@jjwalker9845 Got the step-thru XP about a month ago and I love it.
@@danthemansmail I have ordered the XP Step Thru and I will probably get it either next week or the week after that.
One of the main reasons was because I was income limited and got a $600 stimulus payment. Another reason is that the extra battery packs are about the least expensive per Kilowatt hour so I should purchase some more battery packs for long rides. Also I have a Veltop Windshield (ordered online from France) with cover attachment for riding in the rain as where I live it rains a lot.
Also I have to wear leg gaiters so that road spray won't hose down my legs. I have a Pannier with a truck bag so that will keep the motor dry but I might have to look over some areas which I might have to rainproof.
Using my Veltop attachment on a step thru bike it will be much easier to get on and off the bike as my overhear canvas cover attaches behind the seat.
I had an issue with fiberglass connecting rods that held up the Veltop canvas cover break often so I replaced them by cutting two stainless steel CB whip antennas to the same length and using them instead. This also made the windshield more stable so it had much less of a tendency to flop forwards and backwards on rides annoyingly..
In addition when I used the stainless steel whip antennas cut to the right length it additionally mad a good deflopilator as well.
I used the Veltop attachment years before and I could ride like a king on the road just like a person with a convertible car with the window rolled down.
I did this for thousands of miles about 3,000 or so.
I could ride in the rain when almost no other cyclists dared.
The only time that I didn't ride was in high wind storms and when there was snow and ice on the roads.
My last ebike (RadRover) was destroyed in a hit and run accident where someone in a pickup truck went at high speeds through a red light and I was in the crosswalk with a walk signal. I turned and saw no one in the cab (perhaps the person dropped something to pick up) and I pedaled as fast as I could to get out of the way.
The driver hit my rear wheel by the motor but fortunately I missed getting hit by about a foot.
The driver did slam on his or her brake after realizing they hit something but then quickly fled to avoid responsibility for an accident.
So this ebike will be a replacement for what I had two years ago.
The lesson that I learned is that I am going to get and pay for Velosurance (bicycle insurance) to be covered for loss and replacement which hopefully won't happen again.
Would like to see a comparison of the RAD and the XP 2.0
Thank you, I needed this and I live in NYC so information like this is so needed!!
Can you post the like to you Rad mini brown seat. My wife wants to replace hers on her Rad mini.
Dude thank you so much for making this review I am in the market for an electric bike and was so confused about which one to get but you pretty much made it very clear the XP is the way to go the only thing I don't like about the XPS simply because where the key goes and the fact that I have to keep it in while riding that I'm sure can be a little irritated other than that can't beat the price
glad you found it helpful, there is a ton of ebike choices out there. XP is good one. good luck on your decision.
It would be awesome for the LECTRIC & RAD guys to get together, and for them to take the best of both bikes and put them all on one bike!! At this time I'm patiently waiting for my wife's white XP to arrive.
I have lectric bike. My friend has rad. I blow him away in speed. Also im now at 4000 miles. No issues
I actually like the Rad better right up until the price difference also, the Lectric has a V 2.0 available now with front suspension and a few other upgrades. You can really kit out the Lectric with some accessories for the same money as the Rad. Battery placement on the Rad is so much nicer IMO being able to take it out without folding the bike is a big bonus to me.
Great info and comparison 👍 Also you can hear many demons lurking in the background noise... so that's fun!
Wow! Loads of information. Excellent! You really delved into it! Pretty big price difference but I think the Rad is better. But then again I'm partial.
For the XP Max PSI is 30 and the tires did have liners but now there is no mention of liners in their ads.
Nice comparison. Is that extra equipment bar (the ones the mirrors are attached to) on the Lectric part of the stock bike, or was it added?
That Letric reach to handle bars looks a lot longer than the 18” on the Rad.
Width of the tire can affect for mass trans commenters, as a four” tire is a bit over the limit for hanging the bike on a hook on commuter trainers.
I understand the Rad bar is tapered, so a phone mount can slide as you ride.
Kudos to you. Well done. I own the XP and like both bikes. I also like the Himiway. Just bought the wifey the XP step through.
Great comparison and one potential clarification. You state both bikes are shipped set to be a class 2 bike which I know is true with Rads shipped at 32kph (@ 20mph). Then you state the Lectric can be programmed to become class 3 when set at 45kph (@ 28mph) max. and the Rad cannot achieve class 3 status with its settings only going to 40kph (@ 25mph). My understanding is any assistance above 20mph up to 28mph is class 3, so setting the Rad at 40kph (@ 25mph) does deem it to become a class 3 when set to 40. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the classifications but wanted to point that out for what it's worth. Always enjoy your videos and thanks for all the information!
Thank you for the comparison.
Thank you for this comparison! I wondered where you got the side mirrors for the Rad Mini Step thru?
Awesome review, I am interested in one of those
VERY GOOD REVIEW !!
which one has longer handlebars? I have xp 2.0 handlebars are very short, looking to buy radmini is it has longer handlebars
Can not hear the cicadas above the ac unit running. Interesting comparison of the bikes.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!
where did you get the mirror mount for the xp bike
Replacement arrived!By the way, I did forget to mention that the original lure did have a decent strike however as most anglers will attest you can get a hit th-cam.com/users/postUgkxCbNOWAGmn6nfbCbJDmasvBq7J38KZNw2 and fish will hang on and release lure. I used the replacement lure yesterday and ran thru a Shimano Waxwing, Kastmaster, Bobber (set to sink). I found the does run deep (I casting on the flats 3.5'). Make sure you adjust your rate of retrieve and rod tip angle (up) to prevent getting snagged on bottom. Used it a couple of times and action was very lifelike (looked like local bait fish for trevally), craftsmanship very good....however eyeball fell out. I asked for replacement and it is on it's way! It was very easy to change out treble to single inline hook.
I have over 1000 mi on my Lectric XP. Love the bike, but no the tires are not as good as Kenda. I have had 2 flats with no off-road. The tires are really thin. I had the local bike shop add Mr. Tuffy tire liners (cost about $110 including install). We'll see how those perform. Other than the tires, I have no complaints.
I Have been looking at these two for my daughter. I have to admit it seems like a no brainer so far.
Can't wait till part two!
Which one you going to go for? lectric makes a step thru XP now that might be a good option for your daughter. I love my XP! It's a great value.
The XP is winning this review hands down so far. Less money, more peak power and other smaller details that I just like. ( Concealed battery, metal fenders etc). But I will wait till part two to see if there are deal breaking flaws in rideability.
How do you guys feel about the Rad for kids? Like 8-10 years old who normally would ride a 20” bike. The seat would need to be all the way down I assume. But I do not see how the handlebars can be lowered a lot.
Amazing I was exactly looking for these two bikes... however I still can't decide. I prefer the lectric design and price, however the front suspension is heart broken.
Which e bike would be best under $ 1000 for uber eats and some daily travel
have you ever thought about reading books for blind kids to listen to on tape or download ? you have a pleasant voice
I agree, he has a very pleasant, calming voice
Find out where he got the bar and mirrors. I want one! It's the perfect fix for an overcrowded handlebar! Thanks!
We switched to bar and mirrors, that long bar doesn't work well
@@CitizenCycle925 I'm installing one as an auxiliary to my bars. I'm going to put my accessories on it and the mirrors on the ends, away from my handlebars for safety clearance and to better facilitate the winter ROCKBRO POGUES. The mirrors dont allow the pogues to slide on far enough.
I've been riding in BLIZZARDS for 50 years! I know a thing or two about cycling. Long before it became " fashionable ".... I ordered a 25.5 mm 'straight bar' to replace my short auxiliary bar.. good place for the gopro spare bell, etc.
Not knocking Rad Bikes at all, as I built and sold them for a short while in a local new store, before I went back into " retirement "... I ride a VOLTBIKE made by the same Chinese company! They build for several stores and businesses.... they are highly upgradeable and very useful in getting back into 'shape '! FREY bikes would be the most logical step UP in my opinion! Feel free to ask any questions, as I've only been "retired " a short while. LUNA cylces for the speed freak and sporty set!
@@brianm.armstrong70 Voltbike is Canadian isn’t it, Vancouver, BC based?
I think that $1,000 should be a hard price point that ebikes should respect. Personally, I don’t anticipate spending that much for my needs. But north of $1k getting into to nice motorcycle or dirt bike 🏍 budget
Fair enough!
I am very concerned about safety and from my perspective you missed the most important difference between the 2 bikes. The Rad Mini Step thru has a break light that is active all of the time while riding. This feature plus the freewheel with a lower low gear and a higher high gear means I am going to choose the Rad over the XP. But for someone who wants to be able to convert to a class 3 easily then the Lectric would probably be the best choice though in that model I would prefer the step thru as well.
There are a lot of other things I prefer on the Rad. The larger battery is a big one, the USB off the display is nice for charging a mounted phone. Having grips that allow for a mirror to be mounted to the end of the handle bar is nice, as is and having 2" more on the handlebar to mount things and it comes with a bell. The Rad has the front suspension and larger break thing and not having to mess with the Lectric's underneath key that has to stay in is a plus. I have seen reviews criticizing the Rad tires but I understand the second generation ships with knobier tires that work better off road.
Unfortunately the Rad is out of stock (i/29) with no idea when they will be in.
Have you reviewed the Yamee Fat Bear Plus 750w?
I'm am thinking of getting
Rad Rover ?
Himiway Crusier ?
Yamee Fat Bear Plus 750w ?
Plan on using it for hunting...mostly off road trails.
Thinking the Yamee might store in my pickup truck with topper on it easier because it folds.
Any input please
Thank you
The rad tires are better, they are knobby road tires that will give a big more stability in sand and stuff like that. K-shield is great. they cut a few corners on the Lectric to keep the cost down.
Great job. Very informative. Thanks
Very helpful,thanks
I wonder if anyone who bought their XP over a year ago had a problem with the taillight grinding against the fender? I think they may have fixed this, but the clearance between my taillight and the fender is less than 1/4". If a person was to sit on it, it would br scraping the paint. I put a bunch of super long washers on mine and it pushed it out to a postion where it wasnt so bad, but it still touches. The palm grips will move.I have to twist mone back every day or so.
Well done and objective. Thank you sir.
Both really cool bike 🚲
Thanks for posting this!
You bet!
Nice comparison! Do you have any interest in scrambler type ebikes? I personally use the Ariel rider D class on my channel :)
I wonder if the Kenda 3.3 tire will fit on the Lectric 2.0 with the 3inch tire.
Which bike do u recommend nowadays? If u had $1500 to spend.
A video of a Rad Mini stepthru with an upgraded controller would be awesome!
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i would but the wifey doesn't want me to alter her bike.
@@CitizenCycle925
been three years now, maybe try asking her again :)
Could make for some great content on how to build a killer sleeper bike
Excellent best comparison review video. Thank you. New subscriber. Have a blessed day.
Thanks for the sub. Glad you enjoyed the video 😁
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Thank you so much for this review :-) it looks like if I'm going to spend that kind of money the Brompton electric would be better than the rad bike but this lectric bike looks like quite a peach :-)
Great information, thank you.
It's like the electric Xp I have got cyrusher xf590 and got the same display and I tried customising it P1 came up on the screen but I was scared I messed it up so so I turn it back to normal the manual is in Japanese can't understand it if you can find out about it I will be grateful if you could get some information about it also want to find out if you can do cruise controller on it
link to mirror bar on the lectric
Have you reviewed the 2.0 Lectric model yet ?
unfortunately i have not. sorry!
Can you also review Ariel X-Class.
Having the water bottle located at that spot on the Rad kind of makes the step thru a bit more difficult to mount.
Yes not a great placement
Have you tried the Sondor?
watts is as easy as pie P=IE P is power (watts), I is current, E is voltage.
Watts Law P=IE
Shouldn’t that be P=IxE?
@@jimwatchyyc IE is the same as I*E it is just a shortened method of writing it.
Great review
thanks, hope you found some good info
Need to see a race.
check out part 2 :)
Nice one - thank you.
Nice video.
does the battery run while your peddling?
battery run...? do you mean is the battery losing charge as you pedal? if you have the pedal assist on then yes. and the higher the pedal assist setting, the more battery you are using.
Good review. But to really make an informed decision you really need to go into battery and motor comparison. It's kind of the most important thing.
He did mention the battery wattage and motor specs though.
try and get pats and service from LX, Rad has very good support and parts.
All xp,s components are industry standard.
What is the brand of seat upgraded to on the Rad?
Bikeroo
I saw a dude today riding an Onyx in Knoxville TN. I thought either this guy has big balls or doesn't know the laws or I'm wrong. Either way I want that and just said nice Onyx bro.
Totally wanted to see this video until you said that you wouldn’t explain the implications of the differences and your preferences. As someone who knows nothing about bikes, I need that.
Where did your dad get the mirrors on his
Check out their new 2.0 Lectric bike model.
I watch these like cat videos now.
Do you charge your battery after every ride?
I usually charge my battery every four or five rides.
@@CitizenCycle925 Don't let the battery run out, might ruin the battery. I force my 26" bike to help me reached my home, getting dark and the battery went dead. When I reached home I tried to charge it, it went green right away full, but its not. Bought a new battery for 300 bucks. Now I charged it after use.