Analyzing Evil: Mouthwashing
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Analyzing Evil: D-16/Megatron From Transformers One
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I like the detail how from Jimmy’s perspective, Anya’s death is so unacknowledged. He casually walks by her body to collect the gun to save himself. It really shows how little he cared for her and how evil he is
He even outrights blocks Anya out of his sight and mind while looking for a substitute disinfectant (after using up their only bottle as a spiked drink for Swansea). It's not just a useful censor for story progression. He genuinely doesn't care about her.
"evil" sure, but mostly completely dissasocitave, Jimmy is clinically insane.
@@keithfilibeck2390 Yes, while Jimmy had gone clinically insane by this point. His dissociative choices still stem from his pre existing inabilities to feel sympathy for anyone other than himself.
@@Beastie_boy123 which is another sign of inlaid mental illness.
@@keithfilibeck2390 well he also you know did some horrible things before he went insane
Jimmy also kind of perfectly encapsulates Pony Express’ idea of “collective punishment.” He’s the one constantly making bad decisions, but he makes the entire crew suffer the consequences
Looks like we can sprinkle some Capitalist Critique onto all this too!
@@pancakes8670Collective Punishment isn’t strictly Capitalist tho.
@@pancakes8670If you think Collective Punishment is a capitalist thing, you need to look up the fates of the Kuloks during the early communist russia days.
If you didnt already notice the critique of capitalism before this point, then you're absurdly slow. Also, like the other person said, it makes no sense to conclude that collective punishment is just a capitalism thing. How does one even reach that conclusion?
@@AAllen-br8it because its the most surface level critique people can pretend is deep
I like the idea that Curly laughs because he realizes his passive nature & enabling is partially to blame. He knows what needs to be done, but he's now powerless to help anyone.
That's what I think. He knows that he could've done something, but it's just too late and now they're all in the shit even if he was a good captain most of the time
Also, because Anya hid the gun in the place he now resides. She hid it from Jimmy and now the one thing she never wanted is happening. Curly knows she was right by now and may find it deeply ironic.
@@shanicek5188 There wasn't anything much he could do based on Pony Express solutions. It not only boils down to Jimmy but the fact that the company took excessive cost cutting to the point where it was affecting everyone's mental health on the ship to think rationally and make the correct choice. Jimmy was always going to be the powder keg that was sooner or later going to blow up, and the worst part is that similar or worse situations have happened to people working under Pony Express.
If curly had any ability to move or walk it wouldn't have ended so badly.
I like this idea. I read another comment under a different video that said they thought the laughing might have actually just been a groan or sob that Jimmy’s inferiority complex interprets as a laugh. But I’m not sure which I like better.
This game is truly amazing for such a short piece of media. So many different interpretations and details to find. Thanks for sharing your comment
The thing that pissed me off the most about the ending (MAJOR SPOILERS) is how easy Jimmy went in comparison to everyone else. Daisuke had to writhe in pain on the floor loosing blood due to the tens of cuts crawling through the faulty vent got him, Swansea had to watch this, face a lunatic with a gun, and then get somewhat "taunted", strapped to a chair looking down the barrel of a pistol. It's heavily implied Anya was raped, and died of intentional overdose, while being pregnant and knowing she'd kill her baby, next to the living corpse that was her captian. And curly, well, the entire fucking game is about him. He had to watch his entire crew, who he clearly cared about, die, one by one, in horrible ways and his close friend being behind it all. The worst part is that his ending isn't shut, he got frozen and its up to luck if someone finds him, cuz if not hes going to slowly starve to death, alone.
Meanwhile Jimmy, the guy behind ALL this, just shoots himself once and done. Lights out, no suffering. And the fucker probably was satisfied too, thinking that he just sacrificed himself for his captain.
For what it’s worth, there is a fan animation of Curly surviving
th-cam.com/video/jCy9lWC3cOk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HWuA60MyzRTCS7Tq
So true
I think that's why the ending felt unsatisfying for me. not like "that's a bad ending," its more "damn, Jimmy really deluded himself into thinking he's done the right thing here"
Shoot, going by the ships readings when they hit the rock, they ventured WAY off course. It will be a miracle for anyone to find him.
Methinks that "I hope this hurts" was the only thought on Curly's mind when he heard gunshot
I like that there’s not even a specific character’s name as the title for this video, just the title of the game, because we all know who it’s going to be about
And, it wasn’t just about once person, but also a company. I didn’t expect it, but I like that it was also covered.
Bro really became He Who Shall Not Be Named
@@Hypercube2017 I liked this take that the villain was Jimmy and the Pony Express company, I'm sick of people blaming Curly when even Vile Eye explained why he coudn't do anything about Jimmy under those circumstances. Sure, if Curly didn't pity Jimmy, he would probably now living happily married to Anya while Swansea returns with Daisuke to his kids. But i don't like when people blame empathy and compassion as "enabling". Batman didn't enabled Joker by not killing him, Curly also did everything he could.
@ yeah, and while I see that the cryo pods are actually a valid option for containment, it’s definitely not something I would’ve thought of in a high-stress situation like that. Blaming Curly because of a few choices that _could’ve_ been made differently is madness, especially since hindsight is 20/20.
@@MrConredsX Curly really did believe talking was gonna make it better.
Like dude, just put Jimmy in a cryopod after the assault on Anya and be done with it.
Someone in another video on here also mentioned the fact that Jimmy basically did nothing as captain. He didn't have any plans for things, it was Anya who spoon-fed him ideas and plans. I can't stand Jimmy bro lol
which makes it even worse that he spent half the time berating her and going on about how he’s the captain and how he’s got to do everything, which is both a role he put on himself and a complete lie.
It was Crit Croc that made that observation. Adding to that, it meant Jimmy didn't take his position as co-pilot seriously at all. A competent co-pilot would know the ship inside and out to make safe cuts in the foam, its emergency protocols & systems (tellingly, Anya is reading the safety manual 'cos Jimmy never bothered to learn), and maintaining crew morale. A job which fell to Daisuke, the intern.
The true horror of this game is we've all come into contact with and have been abused by a Jimmy at some point(s) in our lives. Unlike the Tulpar's crew, we were simply lucky enough to escape.
I find it really funny how they’ve been stranded for months and Jimmy is never depicted doing anything that contributes to getting rescued. Just pretending to try and help everyone stay alive when they weren’t struggling in the first place. although i guess that makes sense when Jimmy is the one who wanted to crash the ship with no survivors
Anya for the captain ✋😔
And even then, she gets no choice but to praise him and applaud him for either doing the bare minimum, or following her plans. Like he’s some kind of toddler learning how to use the potty for the first time. Oh but he’ll mock and belittle her for her ideas before following through with her ideas. God I despise this man
One detail that stuck out in my mind is the Polle in the final hallucinations having its dialogue displayed in the exact same color as Anya's. With that connection and it referring to Jimmy as its "old man", I think there is some part deep in Jimmy's subconscious that is calling himself out for his horrible actions against Anya and the pregnancy he caused, but with it being the horse mascot, it's driving more home how he refuses to see humanity in Anya or her pregnancy, no matter how far the events of the game drive him.
Remember the dead pixel dialogue? Every crew member has their own. With Swansea it was the unhappines with his own life. Daisuke masks his insecurity with cheerful smile. Anya is... we all know what her situation is. Curly also stated what keeps him down. Jimmy however, IMHO reppresses his own conscience, if he truly disregards Anya as aperson, why he uses her "Our worst moments don't make us monsters"? I do think that Jimmy is just too scared to admit the fact that he hurt her, another human being and before you counter with "What about killing Swansea?" he hallucinated that life or death situation, Jimmy is too much of coward to actually kill anyone, he didn't let Curly die with dignity, and only watch as Daisuke was fading right in front of him.
@@missmarshmallow5775So when did Swansea die in your opinion? If I am following correctly, Swansea had to logically go first and everyone else’s death was a hallucination because jimmy was too much of a pussy to kill anyone? Or am I misreading here?
I always thought with the Anya color and with it referring to Jimmy as its "old man" along with the fact they say "nah maybe that's above your pay grade", coupled with the psych eval response he'd give Anya like "I find myself having sexual attraction to cartoon horses", it's meant to be a conversation that Jimmy might've had with their kid one day, how his child would view him. "Old man" being "Above his pay grade" implying that Jimmy never would've had any part in raising the child.
Another depressing detail about the Pony Express company is the implication that them going under wasn't due to how terribly they treated their employees, but due to crew-maintained cargo ships becoming obsolete in favor of fully-automated ones.
I mean look at what happened to our Pony Express during the Western development in the USA. For a while it was a mean to reach the distance between the East and West but it lasted about only a year when the telegraph was finally financed to make the junction, by then, the whole idea was pointless because messages could be brought in an instant rather than about 10 days. So much like in Mouthwashing, the whole thing lost out on technological development that proved to be better and the couriers as well as those that handled the outposts lost their job and pretty much were left with nothing to show for it.
@@combinecommando001I mean, the telegram still took a while to communicate messages. There's plenty of stories.Were people sent out to telegram and then travel to the destination and arrived before their message did
@@combinecommando001The entire mail courier service known as the Pony Express, which this game’s company is named after.
Just like real companies!
The way things go in real life, typically as a company starts to circle the drain they become more desperate to stay afloat and will make dramatic changes in policy.
What most dont understand is in a 'natural' capitalist market these companies only last ~50 years, and usually collapse when its original creators, the ones with the passion and drive to make a succesful buisness, pass or retire, and incompetance fills the void.
Modern corporations avoid this by diversifying so much that any individual industry they operate in can fail and not sink the entire company, and this is usually only possible through monopoly or government subsidies
I've heard an interesting theory elsewhere on TH-cam that Jimmy coming up with the idea to knock Swansea out with a cocktail might indicate that Jimmy has done something like that before, either to Anya or maybe even to another victim(s) back home.
A really clever observation, it never struck me how odd it was that Jimmy's first plan to knock Swansea out was through drugging until now.
He already knew that making the spiked cocktail would affect the drinker so that they don't remember anything, and the crew's quarters don't have locks on them. He could've been abusing Anya multiple times without her knowing because she was drugged, and a potential history of doing it before he got the job on the Tulpar.
@@ultimamage3 there could also be an implication that he gave everyone else the cocktail to make sure that no one could stop him from doing so as well.
The sleep deprivation thing is what gets me. Have some experience with sleep deprivation and it is one of the most damaging things you can do to a person. If someone gets less than 5 hours of sleep a night, they won't just feel like absolute shit in the morning, they will start having micro naps during the day. They will get sleep deficit which puts you an entire day behind in your sleep cycle, if this goes on long enough it will lead to seizures and other kinds neurological disorders. Any company that is willing to do that needs to be stopped LOL
Like, that's the detail that really made me realize how dystopic this company is. 5 hours of sleep will damage the brain's capacity and the body over time, and will 100% trigger all sorts of issues on the crew, only causing more unrest, chaos and death along time as their employees lose their marbles over sleep deprivation. Pony Express is the definition of corporate evil.
It is actually not dystopic. On board of most of cargo vessels worldwide you can't get proper rest for several months in a row. Jetlags, jumping the time zones and irregular schedule really drive seamen crazy.
@СорокинВладимир-м7ъ my god. So you mean we're already there. You guys we have to stop these crazy fucks
Just a little sleep deprivation is toxic, when I worked 2 jobs I would see things at the corner of my eye that would vanish as soon as I turned my head
@stephenhaag2358 bro.... that's exactly what happened to me wen I had 2 jobs! Ended up having a seizure from lack of sleep😬 shit is dangerous dawg
The thing I think about the "cartoon horses" comment is that it leads into the idea of Jimmy sexually harassing Anya. He says that stuff because it's her he's talking to, and he starts pushing the boundaries with stuff like that similar to how abuse can be like boiling a frog. The cartoon horses comment represents how little he respects the psych evals, but also how little he respects /Anya/. To him, toying with her by making comments that make her uncomfortable is funny, and it's the first step towards his ultimate commitment of a heinous crime against Anya, which is borne out by how he never cares about what happened to her. She's not a real person to him.
What a great take!
I noticed that too, how he's so bold and able to say that to Anya but then when curly brings it up all of a sudden he doesn't want it talked about, its not a funny joke anymore he just wants to move on. All of a sudden it's embarrassing.
Jimmy: “I’m sexually attracted to cartoon horses”
Me: *having flashbacks to the Brony Craze* “Dear god, launch him out of the airlock,”
You can't boil a frog .. it's been disproven and yet people keep spreading this like a schoolyard myth..
Don't forget, while everyone's deaths showed up in any section of the game J*m was tripping balls, Anya only ever shows up for the feast scene, with all the others, or when the pony monster is born, where Anya was only seen as a hole…
played the game recently and yes, Jimmy is going straight to the boiler room of hell
Yeah he’s a monster
Inside of the boiler*
"You're going to the first layer of hell and if you remembered from science; that's the hottest area Jimmy"
"HR complaints about poor team synergy may result in collective punishment"
Adding victim-blaming fuel to the fire, aren't we, pony express?
School group projects in a nutshell
That likely played a part why curly was neglectful ngl (not justifying him btw)
Part of why their way of doing the intergalactic cargo-shipping was made obsolete eventually. Less ill-will to spook investors.
thats actually a great lesson to learn: either you accept your self for who you are and be happy, or you change what you dont like about your self to be happy. doing neither means a bad ending.
I like the juxtpostion from Jimmy and Swansea, Jimmy seems affable enough at the start, till you understand the context, and Swansea seems like an asshole, but when the chips are down, Swansea is a heroic, thoughtful, and willing to self sacrifice for others, and Jimmy is the total inverse.
Wrong, jimmy did nothing wrong
@@sam-ht6qv...ragebait
@@somanygoodfandoms Loollll yah I was kidding. In reality, Griffith did nothing wrong lol
@@sam-ht6qv I'm glad you think you're funny.
@@somanygoodfandoms Sorry for offending you, your thick head doesn't know what satire is 😂
Me before: what the hell is mouthwashing?
Me after: I'm sorry I learned about Jimmy.
Me too friend
Me
Too
Welcome to the fandom. We’re all sorry to know about Jimmy
Same boat after today
J*mmy is not like us. I'm sorry you had to learn about him. There should be a support group for J*mmy learners...
@@GoddessVanessaTheBratinteresting choice of words there
Brother had 3 corpses in the ship and still fed Curly his own leg 🙏🏻😭
His "speech" after sawing curly's leg off makes me believe it was an act of vengeance.
@violeticonoclast indeed! I hadn't thought of that, to be honest. The "one day he'll thank me" part implied that he did it to keep him alive, but what you said actually adds another layer to it.
Also it’s highly redundant to feed someone their own leg. Any calories consumed by eating a part of yourself will ultimately be less than just your own body sucking all the nutrients from it during the process of starvation.
Dude really is a working class Miles Bron, huh?
Hey, it was already cooked, so 😂
Jimmy is so upsetting, not just bc he's evil, but bc how REAL he feels, he's not just some mindless monster. He is more than capable to be reason with, but he CHOOSES not to improve himself, bc he's a COWARD, too afraid to change or too afraid to acknowledge that he is responsible for his own suffering, so he blames everything and everyone, but himself.
God, I love that a character like Jimmy exists, and I love that you made the joke about being sorry you had to talk about him xD
bro…this game blew the hell up so fast and for good reason..I’ve never played as Somone so realistically evil
It's the self pity that gets me.
Dysfunctionally selfish such in a chilling way.
Can't reckon with how much of a bastard he is, and he *thinks* he gets it.
Swansea cut right to the core of Jimmy.
Can't even see it.
suspension of disbelief gone when I found out the reason for the ship crashing, it's just so stupid
@@abogmus8904 would you care to explain that statement?
@@abogmus8904… how? What’s there to find stupid? Jimmy attempted to kill himself and everyone on board and when curly got absolutely destroyed he blamed it on curly who already has episodes and took his position as captain. Namely cuz he hated that curly would be the one mostly ok after pony express went under
"The Tulpar! Are you telling me a man just happens to crash a ship like that? No, he orchestrated it. Jimmy!" -Curly
T-This…this mouthwashery!
"And I defended him! Shouldn't have- gave him a job I earned! He'd never change...he never changed even when he took his own life. But 'that couldn't be Jimmy! Couldn't be my friend Jimmy!' Leeching off our lives? And he doesn't get to take responsibility? What a *sick joke*"
@@fruitloops2058 Jimmy McGill deserves better than sharing the same name as Mouthwashing Jimmy
I SHOULD'VE STOPPED HIM WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE
@@fruitloops2058HE GRAPED SOMEONE IN THEIR BEDROOM!!!
Curly is the personification of the phrase "The path to hell is paved with good intentions." Such an interesting and complex character.
Curly could have "detained" Jimmy in the cryo pod and kept him on ice until they reached their destination. Would have solved the food supply issue, too.
Waste of a cryo pod
@@CloverKyngeverybody dies without it anyway
a reasonable suggestion, but the problem is that Jimbo is a co-pilot, and I don't know much about piloting, but having a co-pilot (even with an auto-pilot feature for long trips) seems like a huge deal that you can't just get rid of with putting them into the cryo-pod, Curly was probably considering that moment beside the others, even the fact that Curly is not just a captain, but also a pilot, suggests that they have a personnel shortage, and losing the 2nd pilot is the last thing a ship needs on the 1-year trip
@@oktopus14.5 Honestly, it looks like Curly could have trained Daisuke and he would've done a better job at that point. Not like it mattered since the company went defunct anyway.
I think he could have just tied Jimmy up, it's not like they couldn't shred up some bedsheets or something lmao, but I like your idea better because Jimmy wouldnt eat or drink and their resources weren't going to run out as quickly. I think that Curly simply couldn't fathom doing something like that to a friend, there's a sense I get that to him the rape of Anya wasn't really that big of a deal, just something he could fix and be done with. I can't fathom finding out and not immediately putting action in, regardless of my job or status lol
Pony Express is definitely one of those companies that instead of giving you a raise for all your hard work, they instead throw a pizza party . 😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😢😢😢
the pizza obviously is 2 days old
* The employees must pay a share of the total pizza costs while acting grateful to the company for the party
They complain about lazy workers, but then when you actually do your job, they reward you with extra work to "compensate" for everyone else slacking
@@pancakes8670that too
pretty sure Pony Express is too cheap to even offer that, i bet a thank you lettter is still too out of budget for them
Curly becoming paralysed and unable to speak after the crash is such an ironic twist on his inability to take action before the crash.
28:30 I think it's important to note that Anya doesn't say that Jimmy didn't respond to her news. She says that he didn’t say anything that makes a difference. Based on what she says later when she locks the medical room, I think he told her to take care of it with some pills. As Anya says during the scene, she's doing exactly what he told her to.
"Taking care of it with some pills" is the charitable interpretation of what he might have said.
My first assumption was that he told her to go kill herself.
Mouthwashing is one of the bravest games I’ve seen in ages , considering the risks of positioning the player as such a loathsome and reprehensible protagonist.
Agreed
One point to make: tonic water in general has quinine. That's how gin and tonic became so popular bc people were already drinking tonic water for health reasons, and the gin made it taste better + get you drunk. So, while yeah the conditions on the ship were awful, the tonic water containing quinine isn't a crazy thing to have
it's why it's called "tonic" water after all
I was going to point this out. Gin and tonic is pretty big as drinks go.
Quanine combats scurvy. I haven't seen a single person put together what it's entire purpose is. Scurvy has long effected sailors and that is why it was added to tonic water
Quinine itself is quite bitter…so tonic water was made as a beverage to make ingestion of quinine more bearable. Also tonic water glows blue in the dark when exposed to UV…
Was gonna say this, but seems like you beat me to the chase. Cheers.
Say what you want but the fact that Anya can keep Curly alive after what happened to him with the limited medical tools she has proved she’s a good nurse
This now makes me hope you look into the characters and themes of fear and hunger, another terrifying and depressing game with an oddly wholesome and funny fandom.
Now that's a fantastic suggestion 🙌
Wholesome that fandom is an overstatement. It’s almost akin to deviantart in how much goon content there is in that discord server.
@ Well that’s literally every fandom these days, I’m more talking about the fan works you see on TH-cam.
@@paperbag4477 can't avoid NSFW topics on a NSFW game, can you?
@@MundoMundanoTVthe characters in the game get raped come on, nobody should be gooning to dat
All of these Mouthwashing videos' thumbnails are like "Is this guy the most evil villain in videogaming history?" and then show a picture of post-crash Curly lol
I mean... isn't that exactly what Jimmy was trying to do? He told everyone that Curly crashed the ship, not him. That the crying man in bandages is responsible, not him, the manchild that cannot take an inch of responsibility without turning into a psycho.
So, in a way, it is extremely fitting.
Curly with his bandages and bulging eye is a
striking visual, making you think he's the "monster", that's why he's in all the thumbnails. When the reality is that the guy you're playing most of the time is the monster while Curly, though not innocent, is a victim.
The alternative is forcing innocent people to have to look at J*mmy
this is such bait to be honest. you see a burned man in bandages with a bulging eye, and you begin to wonder, just WHAT could he have done? and the video is just about a psychopath rapist. "most evil villain in videogaming" yeah sure
@@abogmus8904 Its because Jimmy is an actual human character not just some moustache twirling gimp whos evil for no reason and one dimensional
I like to think that Jimmy never drank the Dragonbreath mouthwash because he never felt as if there was any dirt to wash away, he saw himself as innocent victim
Yea he never had to run from his problems with alcohol. He was already delusional and clearly mentally ill.
Jimmy is so reminiscent of way, way, WAY too many corporate supervisors out there. I feel like his character could be a way of the creators venting about their prior work experiences.
So aboard ships, especially in the Navy and Merchant Marine, we often traditionally refer to the captain as "The Old Man," so when Polly states that old man is a little above his paygrade, it could be referring to the position of captain, old man, being above his actual paygrade, another way his own subconscious is labeling him a fraud.
For a second, I thought you were actually talking about the act of mouth-washing. I’d’ve believed flossing took first place
EXCELLENT LONK'S TAKES WORK 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I'd've is a crazy abbreviation
@@TheSuperGuitarGuywouldn’t’ve is one of my favorites.
@excaliburknives3572 words I use everyday that don't work when you write them.out
Flossing is 100% evil. 😂
I love realistic villains. It elevates horror so much when the person that makes others' lives miserable may be anyone you know and you may see that evil one day. And the depiction of Jimmy is scarily realistic, I know a couple of people maybe not that narcissistic and reckless but very similiar. Amazing work of art, amazing analysis.
31:28 There was one other option Curly could have possibly used to lock Jimmy up. Jimmy could have been forced into cryo for 8 months making him unable to do anything and would be isolated. It would like still result in punishment for the whole crew, but they would all still be alive.
Pony express is going under, I doubt it would be much punishment compared to the hell jimmy put them through after the crash. I do think Curly deserves to be rescued and be forgiven for what happened on that ship and the former higher ups of Pony express should be punished.
@@mrconroy4672 That is fair. I didn't think about that fact. Eitherway, any dock in pay couldn't be worse than what actually happened.
Are the cryopods functional before a crash ? I thought they only worked after a crash or during an emergency.
@@spinningtornado4543 I'm certain there would be a kind of emergency override that would enable them to be used.
@@elijahgrimm8052 With Pony Express ? A company that doesn't even have meds that would be considered as effective painkillers ?
To me, Jimmy is a refreshing take on an uncommon villain I’d have to describe as the “Incompetent Machiavellian.” A villain so manipulative yet so transparent and clumsy they can’t fulfill their short-term schemes properly
42:14 People tend to see this scene of Curly laughing because he sees the man Jimmy has become and that Anya was right about him.
Also I love this scene because it shows how curly is still wayyyyy more sane than Jimmy, even disabled to that point he still is able to laugh at the hopeless situation
I haven’t played the game but Jimmy seems like a chillingly real villain. I feel like someone like him can and does exist. He isn’t someone who seeks out cruelty or violence, he’s a fairly average man with personal flaws. His issue is that he refuses to acknowledge or work on those flaws, and under the right (or in this case wrong) circumstances, he just makes one terrible decision after another, refuses to learn from or even acknowledge any of them, and in the end all of those awful choices pile up and make him a monster.
Also I just watched the movie Peeping Tom last night, it’s a highly influential film that helped usher in the slasher genre, and I think you could do a really great video on its haunting protagonist, Mark Lewis.
I feel like Jimmy's SA of Anya was a very sick way for him to "reclaim" some power back due to his envy and spite towards her.
Maybe this will be shocking to people that don't have been sexually asaulted but most of the time rape is more about humilliation and power than it is about sexual atraction. Jimmy needed control, he clearly had an inferiority complex towards Curly, and the only way that he could somehow "step" on the ladder was humilliating someone that was already on the ground. Thats why he seems so fixated on how Anya is a failed nurse, on how she is incapable on her job, he wants to push her to the ground so that he can be one step above. He wants to convince himself that she is inferior to him, that she is pathetic and weak. Also, Anya and Curly clearly had some sort of friendship, so Jimmy probably felt even more treathened by her. By assaulting her, he was not only humilliating Anya but he was also showing Curly how utterly incapable of proteccting his coworkers he was. Very sick but fitting to his self pitty and envious personality
very good and accurate analysis. and its really fucked up how we can understand this so well because people are like this. his character is so believable. I know people who are just as selfish.
It’s also why (most of the time straight) men grape other men in prison. It’s all about domination and humiliating the other person as much as possible.
Even his last act was wholly evil and selfish, he doesnt "save" curly because he feels remorse, he does it because he thinks that it will save him, give him absolution
My favorite imagery in the game is the use of light and dark to compare Curly and Jimmy.
During the segment before we interview Jimmy we walk through a lake of blood with broken ladders before we are eventually absorbed by the rising sun. Jimmy also mentions how Curly is at the top of the ladder and he's at the bottom. Further reinforcing this idea.
And throughout the game the time before the crash is lighter and had more green tones, whereas after is filled with darker and has more red tones. I think this meant to show how different Jimmy and Curly are.
Curly is the star, he is warm with the crew and gives everything he has to everyone, without asking for anything in return. On the other hand Jimmy is the black-hole, dark, cruel, he does nothing but take and destroy. Circling back to the TV scene, what do we see?
A black-hole absorbing a star, darkness overtaking light, Jimmy overtaking Curly as captain, Jimmy (a cosmic body in this metaphor) killing Curly.
What a great take!
This is top comment material dude
That and their physical appearances as well. Curly is blonde, has a nice hairstyle, the hair looks like it’s light and would probably bounce if it was animated and blue eyes while Jimmy is a darker contrast and straight hair. They look almost similar and yet so different.
If Curly is ever found, Pony Express will probably hold him liable for the damage to the ship.
I might add that befriending people is a real tactic that gr00mers do (relevant because of Anya’s SA), it’s often their step 1 for manipulation. It gives them “cover” (as well as access) since as your friend they make you believe “he’s a good guy, he can’t be that bad.” And they can pull off this manipulation over a long time, making it hard to detect. So, be careful out there, if you know a friend did something, say something about it and be aware.
there have been few characters that have disturbed me as much as jimmy. mouthwashing really got under my skin and i have thought about it every day ever since i first saw the game. its really something special
6:57 This is probably nitpicky of me, but I just wanted to mention that quinine is the key ingredient of pretty much all tonic water, though obviously in very small doses. It's what gives it the bitter taste :) so it's unlikely to be related to negligence by Pony Express, though it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't care about the amount or something. ** pushes glasses up nose **
Really enjoyed your video as always!
Was hoping someone was going to mention this! 💗 *clinks ice in G&T*
I always assumed anya was implying she wanted curly to lock jimmy in a cryochamber until the trip was done, she said she didn't want him on board anymore and curly couldve just fired him and let him wait for punishment back on earth as a popsicle
It is difficult to ensure a safe voyage without a co-pilot. Moreover, there is another problem. Let’s say Carly teaches Daisuke, who was probably the least busy crew member, how to pilot the ship and assigns him the role of co-pilot. Meanwhile, Jimmy is essentially an ice pop in a cryo-pod. If a serious accident occurs, what would be the plan? There are only three usable pods. Putting Jimmy in one of them would mean effectively sentencing an innocent person to die in Jimmy’s place in the event of a catastrophe.
As for how Carly tried to handle the situation, we do not really know. Perhaps he planned to talk to Jimmy first and then tie him up with rope. Perhaps he intended to gather the entire crew for an emergency meeting. Either way, it does not matter. Jimmy crashed the ship before Carly could act.
It is not that Carly did not intend to act. He simply acted too late.
I love that you saved Swansea’s speech to Jimmy for last. In my opinion, that was not only the turning point of the game but the emotional climax of the entire story. It felt like both characters’ arcs and the thematic progression of the game were all built up for that exact moment. Such a cathartic scene
6:25 congratulations, when I didn’t think this game could _possibly_ get darker, you come along with *_that_* .
What, you never got a pizza party at work? Same thing, really.
Another not so fun take with the the horse imagery. A "broodmare" is a female horse kept for breeding. This phrase has been used as a derogatory term towards women in the past to imply their worth is determined by what services they can provide (sex & childbearing).
The one topic I see brought up a lot regarding what curly could’ve done is in regard to the cryo pods. In theory, I can see how that might’ve worked, but as you’ve addressed here, the company is cheap with both materials and precautions taken for their employees. We can assume the cryo pods were functional because of the end scene, however it’s likely the team would’ve been heavily fined for using them, considering the fact that they haven’t already been using them. Theoretically it would be more time and cost effective to have the team manning the ship spend the majority of their trip in the cryo pods, with them being automatically woken up every month or so to do routine maintenance and in the case of an emergency, they’d be there to fix any issues the ship couldn’t handle on its own. The presence of the autopilot system implies to me that they had the technology to implement an automatic waking system, but pony express didn’t, so who knows. Either way, the fact that the cryo pods are there for emergencies only implies to me that they aren’t as functional as they’re being advertised to be, or the cost of the energy they use is too much to justify using them outside of a life or death situation. Which then brings up the same penalty issue that comes with reporting Jimmy. I still think curly should’ve done something more than just stand around, but I also think it’s a lot more complicated than “why didn’t he use the cryo pods is he stupid”. All of this also ignores the fact that Jimmy would NOT have gone willingly into one of those and we don’t know how dangerous he would’ve been if they had tried. Probably less dangerous than the alternative lol but that was probably part of what would’ve gone into considering putting him into one of the cryo pods.
Thank you for coming to my useless Ted talk I’m going to finish watching the video now
Also, if the ship could be reliably flown by a single person, I'm pretty sure the company would have fired Jimmy long ago, or at least, the co-pilot position wouldn't be a thing on their ships anymore.
Like, the crew is only allowed 5 hour sleeps, they don't give a shit about the crew's condition by the end of the journey, just that they make it.
The only thing Curly could have done to jimmy to "arrest" him and keep him detained would be to, in my opinion, put him in one of the cryo pods against his own will. That could have been done with the help of Swansie, perhaps at gun point or while jimmy was sleeping. Still, that wouldent be an easy decision to make as a captain. We learn that there are company policies that fine the whole crew for miss use of the cryo pods and maybe using them as a glorified prison cell would count as a "miss use", further more, planning out such an arrest is both something that would take time and would likely be something curly would only consider doing after exausting several other opitions.
Ive also seem several people float around the idea that Curly should have held Jimmy accountable by exposing him to the rest of the crew, openly telling the others of what happened, but i think that would be a stupid idea, as it wouldent solve anything but instead only make Jimmy more stressed, unstable, and prone to taling "severe actions"
Yeah, I feel bad for Curly (and everyone else barring Jimmy) because he really was in a pretty big lose lose situation. We know now how it turned out, but from his perspective, trying to keep the whole crew in working order and avoid confrontation seemed like the better option. Sadly, it ended terribly, but really, there was no clear path to take at the time.
Ironically, most of Curlys mistakes happened because of good intentions rather than malice. Choosing to tell the crew about their termination made things worse, but he did it because he felt it was the right thing to do. Trying to placate Jimmy to keep the crew running led to him crashing the ship, but he did it because he felt it was the best option and underestimated how deranged Jimmy was, who was also a personal "friend" of his.
Yeah, from Curly's POV, anything he does to either contain Jimmy or distance him from Anya would only worsen the situation.
The literal best course is to comfort Anya, swallow Jimmy's bullscheiße, and hope to God he doesn't do anything drastic (unfortunate in hindsight)
Also of note is the first time the player interacts with the Polle statue outside of the intro Jimmy states 'they make toys of this thing. For kids." or something similar.
That could be one way they get employees. They ingrain the company in the minds of people at an early age so they're more likely to care about it when they're old enough to work.
Should also note: it's mentioned that the mouthwash has a high sugar content, which Anya mentioned rendered it useless as a disinfectant--but also renders it useless as Mouthwash, given sugar rots teeth.
While this is true
Most regular mouthwash has some amount of sugar in it
And it’s not a viable disinfectant because getting artificially synthesized sugar in an open wound at all would do more harm than good while your teeth can tolerate some amount of sugar especially given you aren’t intended to use very much of it
@@fellasmann I mean, Anya directly mentions the sugar content is 14%, so it's not... great.
@@blockyuniverseproductionsI thought it was 14% ethanol, not sugar?
Thank you for actually detailing how limited Curly's options were. I see so many people say they would have known what to do or that Curly is as bad as Jimmy. It's super easy to say "Curly should have (insert random punishment for Jimmy here)" when you just ignore context.
Almost all of the "curly should have done x" scenarios fail because if curly was smart enough to consider those hypotheticals he wouldn't consider his co-pilot going insane and intentionally crashing the ship
It's the type of situation where the smarter you are the more likely you are to fail cuz that intelligence distances you from how stupid and impulsive people think
THIS. Curly barely had a day or two to actually deal with Jimmy before the crash, but no one ever mentions it when they call Curly just as bad/evil as Jimmy. I think if Curly had followed after Jimmy to the cockpit after their talk it might have changed something for the better, but given how Jimmy's so quick to talk down to Curly and how Curly implied Jimmy is quick to get angry and lash out a fight might have happened if he did (and then Pony Express would've probably docked some of everyone's pay from their last paycheck cause PE sucks)
The only context needed is that while Curly is one of Jimmy's victims, it was his enabling behavior that allowed Jimmy into that position.
Jimmy's rape of Anya is not something that would've happened only once and completely out of nowhere, his knowledge of spiked cocktails and their amnesiac properties is telling, he actively avoids taking responsibility and denigrates women, and Curly already knows that he's an unstable person and quick to anger, but he still put "being Jimmy's personal friend" and the image of peace and civility/avoidance of confrontation above actual justice and was thus dismissive to Anya and her issues, believing her assault and Jimmy's condition to still be "fixable" by someone other than himself.
Jimmy should've been nowhere *near* having a job as co-pilot.
How many "personal friends of rapists" do you know that are good people?
I don’t think he’s as bad as Jimmy, but he’s not blameless. I think when Anya was wondering if your worst actions define you was directed to Curly. Anya seemed to be very comfortable with Curly, so I’m sure she thought he was a good person. But he betrayed her by enabling Jimmy. There was rope on the ship, he could have tied Jimmy up but instead he tried to compromise and find an easy way out. But I also think being horrible burned and losing limbs and being condemned to a life of pain and suffering is more than enough punishment 🤷♀️
@@ultimamage3this is spot on, if Jimmy is a monster then Curly is his Dr. Frankenstein. Jimmy on his own is just a rapist, Jimmy and Curly together are rape culture. Curly himself may not be as evil and malicious as Jimmy, but his inaction and sometimes direct protection of Jimmy makes him equally culpable for what happens. Curly's whole position in the story after the crash is ironically being forced to watch the consequences of his inaction play out as he is powerless to stop it. Curly could have stopped all of this, it was his responsibility as the captain to stop all of this. Curly CHOSE to let this happen.
So... The Pony Express did take Jimmy seriously. He had a criminal record that actually barred him from employment with The Pony Express. I can't remember if it was a Q&A or in the game itself, but the reason Jimmy got hired on was Curly vouched for him.
You never see anya devlop a baby bump as Jimmy probably doesn't see it as he refuses to acknowledge what he's done due to being a unreliable narrator.
this is speculation on my part, but i like to think anya induced an abortion somehow. right before she kills herself, she says 'this isnt my worst moment, far from it' which could mean that. i think the reason she was examining the mouthwash so intensely before having jimmy get the meds is because she was thinking about drinking enough to cause a miscarriage, or perhaps she used some of the meds herself at some point. its plausible.
one of the most miserable things in this game is knowing swansea wanted to save daisuke as well by giving him the stasis pod, and what jimmy did to him was the tipping point for swansea. i just adore in general how human every character is written. It's gotta be one of the most realistically human horror games ive seen in a looong time
One thing I never see mentioned in these Mouthwashing analysis is that the name of the ship. Tulpar is the name of a Celestial Horse from Turkish mythology, that is supposed to represent speed, elegance, and "cultural depth" which I found kind of funny. Of course the Pony Express company would name their ship something like that, They're vain as well as morally corrupt.
Anya failed med school multiple times, but to her credit, she managed to keep Curly alive as a human fillet for four months.
My guess is she’s either really squeamish or the bar nursing school in their world is much higher than it is for ours. It takes a lot to take a human hamburger and keep him alive with zero surgical equipment.
@dreamiinotdream730 I suspect she's actually an exceptional nurse, but med school was too stressful and expensive for her to thrive
You know it just got real when it isn’t ‘analysing evil: character name’ but the WHOLE game instead
I'm conflicted by how well-developed and realistic they made the antagonist of this game, because I simultaneously love the character as a villain and despise them with every fiber of my being
Jimmy has joined the likes of Griffith for me in "man, you're a great fascinating villain but I despise you so much"
@@N_o196 It's definitely because of how relatively grounded he is compared to a lot of villains. *Everybody* knows or has known a Jimmy, and at best he stands as an example of how bad things could have gotten if the Jimmy in their life stuck around/got their way, and at worst he is a reminder of the time when they _did._ And when you make a villain like that, it can make peoples' reaction to their villainy more emotionally charged than usual.
Jimmy crashed the ship because he didn’t want to face the consequences for assaulting Anya . He probably drugged her with a cocktail since that was his first thought he had when they needed to knock out Swansea without him remembering after he wakes up.
The being jobless reason for crashing the ship is such a red herring.
This was such a horrific story. People are capable of more evil than anything we can possibly imagine. Kudos to the brilliant team behind this game.
I kinda think Swansea didn't even try to come at Jimmy with the axe. I believe that could've just been Jimmy's paranoia and delusions taking control completely cause how did he get Swansea in that chair? Plus those pods in the room with Swansea when he's tied up looked fine. Daisuke didn't react to them much when he went into the room with Jimmy. Maybe Jimmy just assumed Swansea was as demented and "back-stabbing" as he is and his delusions helped paint that picture.
Jimmy had the gun
@CloverKyng Swansea didn't seem to be worried about dying after Daisuke. Barely even worried about it beforehand.
I'm gonna say no because I want berserker axe-rage Swansea to be real
I'm surprised not many people pointed this out. After mercy killing Daisuke, Swansea said something like "just go into the cyropod and make up whatever story you want, i dont care anymore". Swansea already gave up. Jimmy's demented brain probably made up the whole axe chase sequence to justify killing him.
It’s likely Anya told Curly about the assault even before she tells him about the pregnancy. Her telling him “I told you.” when Curly is incredulous about how she got pregnant is showing that, as that’s all it takes to know the who and how of the situation’s causes for him.
He's not incredulous about how she got pregnant, it's a perfectly realistic reaction to shocking news. He knows exactly what happened and the reality of the situation is very distressing to anyone with a shred of empathy. But he's unwilling to take action against Jimmy, partially because he's too much of a nice guy, partially because of the system that punishes HR complaints.
@@hermitgreenn i think Curly was unsure of how to act. His best friend SA'ing another close team mate, her getting pregnant, the collective punishments by pony express, the fact that they were isolated in space, with no brig or good way to apprehend Jimmy, except maybe putting him into cryostasis. Not trying to say that Curlys inaction was good, in the end he still enabled Jimmy
thanks for covering this game.
Jimmy is without a doubt one of the most despicable characters i've seen in video games. a narcissist, a coward who couldn't truly face who he was and what he did, and all around deserving of contempt.
Perfect timing, I've been watching the analyzing evil series all week, and Mouthwashing has been my obsession for weeks. So many details have taken me a long time to realize, especially since it's from Jimmy's perspective so we're seeing how he rationalizes the most vile shit to the point where we don't see most of it directly until he's fully unhinged at the end of the game.
Jimmy did nothing wrong.
All he had to do was literally nothing, yet he somehow did it wrong.
good one😂
All the Jimmys that played this masterpiece of a game, or watched this video:
"Yeah my name is James and I only go by James. Thanks."
42:23 As for this scene where Jimmy is being chased by Swansea, I believe that was more of a hallucination(or some sort of mental gymnastics) by Jimmy. I think the truth is he found Swansea and tied him up at gunpoint then executed him.
Mouthwashing is such an excellent example of a game so expertly layered that every frame is a painting, visual elements and small details are going to be things people are able to analyze and talk about for years to come
Analyzing Evil: Nicole from Class of 09.
would actually go so hard as a video
could do the whole game rather than any singnular character honestly
Not me snorting bc I’ve never heard of class of 09 and thought you held a grudge against an old classmate
Bro, every character in that game is evil to some extent. (I'd like at least some characters that aren't assholes)
@@heddelinpralin1481 LMFAO
He orchestrated it, Jimmy! But not our Jimmy. Not our precious Jimmy! What a sick joke!
You tell me a spaceship just crashes like that?
Mouth washing truly the most vile villain, like seriously why can’t I swallow it
Love your videos! Here's my list
Analyzing Evil:
1. Serena Joy from Handmaid's Tale
2. Homelander from The Boy's
3. Negan from The Walking Dead
4. Omni man from Invincible
5. Black Jack Randall from Outlander
6. Stephen Bonnet from Outlander
I think he's said before that Homelander won't be featured until the show Is finished
Aunt Lydia too would be great
Generally, he tries to wait until a show is over before analyzing any of its characters, so Homelander will have to wait until after season 5, and Negan will have to wait until whenever Dead City ends. With how Omni-Man’s arc is going (and goes in the comic), it wouldn’t really be accurate to call him evil, but there could definitely be a video on Thragg or Viltrum in general.
@ethansolomon2126 Hey, thanks for letting me know! Been awhile since I've seen the recent videos he's posted about it. I think we all wanna get his fresh thoughts out on the content he analyses as they drive towards their completion. Can't wait! 😁
@@ethansolomon2126 he could do comic negan, if he hasn't already.
Your analysis of this game made me look at Curely so much more differently. I completely commend you for that. Spot on, my man. Spot on and bravo!
Thank you for analyzing Curly's part on the whole story. I got pretty tired of people fully blaming him for what happened when Jimmy took full advantage of both his friendship and his pushover personality. He has human flaws and honestly any bystander in that situation would probably not know what to do when you are stuck inside a ship like the Tulpar. People use the argument that he is a full on enabler and he could've just cut Jimmy off way before anything happened, but then these are the same people who give very "fantastical" solutions such as: "Curly could've simply shot Jimmy and they could've returned home". like... my guy... everyone would've gotten arrested for murder the moment they reach earth, and forget about giving Anya her well deserved happy ending. What I love about this story is how hopeless the situation is in general. You can't apply any fantastical happy ending solution cuz of the context of their situation. I feel like the fandom kinda forgets that's the whole point of the whole story and none of the characters are perfect. Specially Jimmy.
Also Curly said himself he's known Jimmy a long time. Jimmy has been abusing their friendship for a long time and Curly didn't see that until it was too late. A good chunk of Jimmy's dialog is him talking down to Curly or being snide and letting his jealousy show, too
I think this was 100% intentional even from a "Capitalism is bad" stand point.
This is a utterly hopeless situation,
enabled by bystanders or people just trying to do their job,
that puts damaged people in positions to screw everything up for everyone else involved
while also people totally unjust on who gets to be punished/effected.
@pfchan9052 Another thing that comes up with the solution of Jimmy getting shot but nobody mentions is that Curly didn't know where the gun is by the day of the crash; also like...I don't think he'd want to shoot his ex-friend if it could lead to said friend getting injured and leading to Pony Express docking their final pay when they return to Earth, or kill him and end up in jail for murder, like you said
If you cut out the fat the game is a cautionary tale about condemning yourself to a life you hate and the dangers pf refusing to grow as a person, taking whatever you can from others before inevitably avoiding them.
I remember when "How Fish Is Made" came out. And that was like, wow cool, weird gross vaguely philosophical surrealism. It has something to say, but it's not very complex. Short and sweet, and weird. And then it had that teaser for "Mouthwashing", which I assumed would be kinda similar. Then "Mouthwashing" comes out with this amazing narrative conveyed with excellent direction. Jeez. So much more than I was prepared for. I'm so glad this game blew up. It deserves all the praise.
Minor note about the tonic packet and quinine: tonic water quite literally IS quinine, and the reason Gin and Tonic exists is because Colonial era British soldiers would mix the tonic with gin to make it easier to drink. Modern day tonic water has a lot less quinine and more sweeteners added since it's usually drank as a beverage rather than a medicine.
I think the reason the packet being mostly quinine is supposed to refer to the fact sweetener is restricted, not for actual space malaria treatment.
This might sound weird but Jimmy sorta reminds me of Judge Claude Frollo in that he absolutely refuses to take responsibility and blames everyone else for his failings.
I believe that Swansea “chasing” down Jimmy in medical, breaking into the cockpit, and being tied up in utility are all part of Jimmy’s extensive imagination and a copping mechanism. It’s to make him believe that he’s the “hero” in the situation, and that he had been “protecting” himself from the big bad guy who had only hurt the innocent youth. So many players immediately jump to the conclusion that Swansea is the bad guy or is nefarious, which is created not only due to his behaviour and appearance, but also because we are seeing the man through Jimmy’s eyes, and Jimmy is a highly unreliable narrator. Jimmy has constructed this idea that he is the hero, and that a person like Swansea, who is fatally flawed due to his less than striking appearance, personality and habits, is the bad guy in this situation. The same thing goes for him putting Curly in the cyro chamber, and then shooting himself. He’s saying “I am the good guy, the “hero” in the end. I “sacrificed” myself for my best friend because I value him so much blah blah blah bullshit.”
The writing in this game for how evil Jimmy is, is simply astonishing. Just at the start of not knowing anything, and only having to go off what Jimmy says, too slowly getting more of the picture and seeing those character flaws with Jimmy and seeing how Curly is genuinely a good person. Having characters like Swansee, who look like the bad guys, but turn out to just be a stressed person who just wanted to do their best. To seeing how Jimmy is so cruel to someone like on Anya, and how poisonous he can be to someone like Daisuke. Everything about this story just does such a perfect job at making him feel detestable. If I had to state how he makes me feel compared to other villains, he honestly makes me feel reminiscent to Griffith, or the king of Midland in berserk. This is truly a groundbreaking horror story.
21:22 I love how you say “and another, and another, and another”
Please never change.
After covering over 200 evil characters, some of whom committed unspeakable acts on an unimaginable scale, this is the first time I’ve heard Vile apologize to the audience because they had to listen to Jimmy’s actions.
Johan
Joker
Griffith
Bonedrewd...
and this fucking Jimmy guy...
You know Jimmy's bad cuz he didn't even apologize for talking about the worst of the worst like The Judge or AM
ANALYZING EVIL 😈 GEORGE COSTANZA FROM SEINFELD
Ah yes, mouthwashing, a true evil alongside flossing and toothpaste
My four favorite suggestions:
- Analyzing Evil: Park Yeon-jin from The Glory
- Analyzing Evil: Frank from Once Upon a Time in the West
- Analyzing Evil: Thor "The Swede" Gundersen from Hell on Wheels
- Analyzing Evil: Suguru Kamoshida from Persona 5
Yeon-jin the type of person to tell a homeless person to just buy a house
That line about being super cool made me smile INSTATLY
I had to rewind to see if I heard that correctly
So happy you’re covering this! As soon as I finished the game I knew it would’ve been perfect for an analyzing evil video
15:24 Its not even good mouthwash either, 14% alcohol and a high sugar content that makes it useless as a disinfectant. The dollar store wouldnt take Dragonbreath today!
One thing i always like to bring up about Jimmy... he knows how to make a spiked drink.
He knows it won't kill Swansea, it will just knock him out... hell! He might not even remember being knocked out!
In context of what he did to Anya... it is rough.
Like, it is simply impressive that when audience is faced with a company as bad as Pony Express, a company that looked at concept of capitalism and said "hmmm, we absolutely can do it in worst way imaginable, yeah" - Jimbo manages to be even worse.
I also like to point out that in that easily accessible hallway cupboard outside of the lockable medical office, there are (four) bottles of paracetamol, but only (one) bottle of disinfectant? They're only a few months into their journey. And they have to break that cupboard open with an axe; they can't have been using that disinfectant on Curly post- crash.
Playing this game when it first came out, it was very apparent that there are a lot of parallels between Jimmy and Curly (I thought this up until I realized Jimmy fucking r*ped anya). One actually tries to own up to responsibility as captain (but still fails anya) while the other is trying to run from it but act like he has everything under control as captain (fails as a human being).
I think it’s very interesting that you only play from their two perspectives overall.
Most of the story being told from Jimmy’s perspective as an unreliable POV adds extra layers of completely fucked trains of thought that I hadnt even realized until I thought about it afterwards and watched analysis.
I think the most heartbreaking thing I noticed is when Anya asked “Why do you think they lock the medbay but not our cabins?”
Jimmy didn’t deserve the easy way out, he got to keep running until the very end, he never owned up to anything but the hallucinations in his own head.
I am so happy that this game has been recognized by so many. I think the game was excellent and felt like an interactive movie more than a video game! Go play it!!
You should do an episode about Lisa the painful. Just Lisa the painful.
I'll second that!
ANALYZING EVIL: BUDDY :)
Top Tier Worldbuilding and Storytelling. I'm glad it's found an fairly quick audience, but I hope that toxic fandoms don't stop this from going down as an excellent piece of media.
Well half of the fandom already sucks 😭 but most of the people I've interacted with have been really cool and very talented artists too!
Holy shit, this was not something I was expecting! And I’m so sorry you had to even utter Jimmy’s name
I'm sorry you even typed it.
Im sorry you had to think about it
@@undyne1 I found myself censoring that creatures association just to avoid uttering it now (ie. J***y, J###y, J!?$y)
@@tonybippitykaye I just replace it with random words that start with 'J'. Jimbrolly, jambalaya, jungle, johnny johnny no papa, jumanji, jumbo, mrbeast, jonkler, ect.
I find Jimmy more of a rabid dog than a Voldemort: more than culpable for the parties he bites, but so far gone that he should have been rejected by the parties that unduly enabled him.
Had Curly decided to euthanize their friendship, the dirge of the Tulpar would have had a far different conclusion.