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If you want a REALLY deep note, Listen for Geoff's singing in Voiceplay's "My Mother Told me" He sounds like a foghorn!! Or his solo version of "The Headless Horseman."
A basso profundo is defined by the ability to sing below a standard bass voice. Typically, a basso profundo reaches down to F1 or slightly lower; whereas, a typical bass peters out below about B1 or even C2. Geoff is definitely a basso profundo, but also does a lot of lyrical (basso contrante) work, as well, where he sits around E2 and may dip down to A1 if the key requires it... still going lower than a typical bass, but not low enough to be considered a basso profundo in that moment or song. He switches up roles between those two types of bass and also sings a lot of lines that never really drop below baritone, too. He is definitely not a one-trick pony.
I don't know if I'll ever get tired of people hearing Geoff for the first time in this song. And just waiting for the last note. Its just not a reaction without people immediately replaying the end.
Subharmonic technique not subsonic It’s an easy way to get lower notes just gliding/sliding down an octave Geoff is a beast, and what’s funny is he considers himself a baritone not even a bass.
Well it's more about stretching the fold into a vocal fry via manipulation of the musculature, whereas a "slide" would imply change of air flow. I'm familiar with Geoff's guide. This is just a conversation that came up in Twitch chat where someone mentioned the idea of "subsonic" sound, so that's where the idea came up.
@@BigBrainSinger Subsonic is only used for firearms munitions. Most rounds are faster than the speed of sound. Subsonic rounds don't break the sound barrier. Mostly used when using a suppressor/silencer. You don't want the sound of the bullet breaking the speed of sound to add noise into the mix. Chat was using an incorrect usage of the word.
@@BigBrainSinger There's a *difference* between vocal fry and subharmonics. When he's using subharmonics he is *not* using any form of vocal fry at all.
In music, a subharmonic series is an undertone sequence of notes that results from inverting the intervals of the overtone series. As it applies to the voice, a subharmonic is one or several harmonics created below the fundamental harmonic where the fundamental is perceived to be lower with the original tone in place.
I keep hearing the term "percieved" or the "ear hears". I just want to clarify that the actual lower note is actually brought out and is not a trick of the ear / brain / or perception. It's actually there. We know this because a pitch meter / pitch program will actually read it as that lower note.
i d say Voiceplay 's capabilities are best showcased in Little Mermaid Medley but for Geoff The Headless Horseman shows his agility on lower notes and btw instead of subsonic better talk subharmonics
@@BigBrainSinger subharmonic is where you bring the lower harmonic resonance of a note to become dominant. So he is actually singing E2 there but it comes out as an E1 to the ear bc the subharmonic frequency is put in the “spot light”. Jeff says you sing an octave up from the pitch you want. He demos it on his channel. He swaps back and forth between prime pitch and subharmonic pitch which are one octave apart.
@@beatdaddy yes. I'm familiar with Geoff's guide. Haven't tried it myself or had a student who would need it (just because my performing is all about singing high) but I'm learning from these comments. Very cool function of the voice! One thing Geoff says that is ultimately what I appreciate him is that it's always more important to be a good singer than to be a low singer. Same is true for high singers. Tell a story, sing with good tone and pitch, and be engaging. Always more important than low or high notes.
@@BigBrainSinger exactly. I really like that Geoff said that too. So many people get hung up on the frills; the ultra-high or ultra-low that they forgo just being a great, solid singer who can tell a story and convey emotion.
I'm sure you figured it out by now... but subsonic is below what you can hear (your commenter didn't know what they were typing) but subharmonics is something completely different.. there's lots of info on it. "Sub" as a prefix means lower or below... so "subharmonics" simply refers to the lower harmonics in a sound, and doesn't have anything to do with its actual pitch. Another word for subharmonic would be an "undertone".
In subharmonics "false vocal folds" made the main sound ( as in vocal fry ) , he used a chest/fry to achieve the E1 . They are called subharmonics because of the low freq that boost back on the main tone , as a sub is a "filler" ; as per Tibetan Monks low chanting or Kargyraa in mongolian throat singing - Not an easy tho to achieve , more difficult is the control of it . Complicated . He is mastering all this technique and will surely go lower than that .
Watch Geoff’s Headless Horseman video. His range is amazing! His cover of Blackbird is also great! (Those are on his personal channel.) This shows a good portion of his range, though.
Yeah Geoff is pretty amazing. Its astonishing to see someone with his low notes be able to stretch his range up into his higher registers with such strength and gusto.
E1 that's the last note, subharmonic technique. I'm a bass(ish, Geoff makes me feel like a tenor) However with his videos on singing low, I'm getting some subharmonic notes myself. On a good night, relaxed laying in bed doing voice exercises I can hit subharmonic notes I could never hit before. Before I discovered Geoff, I bottomed out at A1, after Geoff I'm turning into a monster. I am determined to learn that E1
Geoff IS a bass and then some. He reached 2 B0s in the Halo Theme and has done songs where he hit A5 for an 6 octave range minus 1. Santa Claus is his neighbor.
I would rather call his voice "basso cantate". Geoff has a great range and vocal abilities and I love his singing, but he prefers to sing his lowest notes while using a mike and than he EQ's out some things (as he himself explains). For a true basso profundo, able to project low notes without amplification, look for Glenn Miller, Kurt Moll, Vladimir Miller, Matti Salminen, &c. - and most notably mr. Mikhael Zlatopolsky, who was able to project a C1 over an entire choir.
Just found out that a popular TH-cam "voice coach" called him a basso profundo, which is where I think all that rhetoric is coming from in the comments. I believe they meant it as implying the literal translation from the Italian as "profound bass" rather than actually referring to the Fach system, which is where my brain automatically went when I heard that. The fach system is on its way out. Singers need to be versatile nowadays. No room for the most specific of categories anymore.
I think that the term "sub-harmonic" comes from the pedal tone that brass instrument players can do. The lowest note that is in the normal range has a wavelength equal to the length of the tubing, i.e., from the mouthpiece to the end of the bell. However, with a single pedal tone the wavelength is twice as long as the tube, and a double pedal (which I was one of the few I knew that could do it on the trombone reliably, and a few times on the Bb flat tuba) in which the wavelength is 1/4 the length of the instrument. Thus, the sound is a sub-harmonic of the normal base note. BTW, the double pedal on the tuba is a freaky sound, in that you can feel it, but most people cannot actually hear it as a tone. Now, whether that is an accurate assessment of what a singer is doing, that I do not know. That is, the resonance chamber, from the bottom of the lungs and the opening of the mouth are acting like the brass instrument at a partial wavelength. One other thing that I seem to hear that most seem not, is that I actually hear a tone one octave below what most reactors find on their piano's, namely an E-1. I tend to hear an E-0 with the first harmonic of the E-1. And, at my age of nearly 60 my ears are not what they once were.
If i understand correctly he uses his vocal cords and vestibular folds at the same time. The resonance and the harmonics plus the right EQ makes it sound so deep.
basically the technique he uses is the opposite of overtone singing but you sing a low note and slowly relax and it will kind of pop a certain way it jumps down an octave. in there warrior song he hits a B0 its hard to hear but he hit it
@@tristanberardi2969 Yes I was thinking of the wrong part, but Geoff said in a video that the note he hit was lowered down by an octave in production.
Geoff has a video out there on How to Sing Low. He goes into subharmonics. Before he took on being a bass he trained as a tenor. Watch Geoff's Monster Mash, Hoist the Colors, the Headless Horseman, My Mama Told Me, the Phantom of the Opera, Wicked Acapella medley, Moana, Little Mermaid, Tennesee Whisky, Papa Sang Bass, This is Halloween, The Man in the Mirror, Halo Theme, The Dragonborn Comes Skyrim, Blackbird, Friends on the Other Side, Queen in 5 Minutes, You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch, Grim Grinning Ghosts, Carry on Wayward Son, etc. It's all wonderful
Some comments related to pitch. It helps to distinguish frequency (a physical event) and pitch (a perception). If a sound is a combination of 200 Hz, 300 Hz, and 400 Hz and you are asked for the pitch, you will match it to 100 Hz even though there is nothing of actual 100 Hz frequency in the sound. This is called the residue pitch -- or at least was years ago when I was studying such things. Back in the 1950's, a Bell Labs researcher named Roger Shepard created and sets of sounds with circular pitch perception. (Another created infinite glissando and crossed pitch glissando where the pitch rises and then when replayed, the pitch actually dropped. You can find lots of info with a google search.) It also helps to recognize that when we talk about frequency and pitch, think of the frequency axis as being a log scale. That way, the octave interval is the same size whether the frequency is halving from 440 Hz to 220 Hz or doubling from 131 Hz to 262 Hz. My understanding (guess, at this point) of "subharmonic singing" is that the vocal structure is that of an octave above the target pitch and I would guess that the "vocal fry" is introducing and reinforcing enough frequencies so that the perceived pitch is that of the low note. Someone with appropriate tools (spectrum analyzers and wide and flat frequency response) might tell us more.
The person in chat who called him a basso profundo probably saw that video. Fachs are overrated imo. The idea of them puts a singer into too tight a box. Geoff also has an amazing upper register which is completely un characteristic of a Basso Profundo by the traditional definition. Unless you're just trying to say "profound bass" in Italian, in which case... yes, he has a profound bass sound lol.
@@Perktube1 I agree... and it's really only kind of useful for choral ensemble and opera but only as a way to adapt to pre-written music. If you're making your own music just find the voice(s) that work for it.
He is a bass-baritone. Listen to Glenn Miller if you want to hear what a basso profondo sounds like. The different bass types are all about volume and resonance of the super low notes D1 - B1. Geoff without a microphone can not sing an E1 (the last note in this song) very loud at all. A Basso can blast that note and be heard over a choir of a dozen people. Its not a dig on Geoff, I am also a bass-baritone, there are just different voice types
Didn't know that you have a TH-cam channel Charlie! Instantly subscribed! 🎶 Really enjoyed the video! You remember me in your streams? The low bass singer who actually did a lower note than Geoff at the end. I told you about the Subharmonic technique in that day too.
Yeah I remember what you were saying. Chat was trolling me and that's not exactly a technique I use often. Everyone here is big brained for sure hahaha
@@BigBrainSinger I am trying to learn too but I doubt I can pass through G2. But then I am a girl 😛. And not a singer so...but aren't those low notes so beautifully resonant?
I feel that this video is not inherently lackluster, but not the best use of a teaching implement such as the bass voice. With that being said, take Tim Foust who is an interesting vocalist in that he utilizes “growl notes”, fry technique, subharmonic technique, and honestly just the extension and relaxation of his rich, deep-set chest voice to hit those famous low notes. Each style brings in a different sort of feel to his voice, of course. You have the “growl note”, such as the G#1 in Misty Mountain and the E1 in “Do You Hear What I Hear?” (among others like the A0 in “Sold”). You have the low chest notes covering a COMFORTABLE B1 going down to his fry at an F#1, all of which is sung with an impeccably clear sound. Compare this to the much more “airy” growl note, which is less full. Then you have what could be called a subharmonic technique with the clear, ringing E1 in “Folsom Prison Blues”. This is arguably the most “full” sound out of all of them, and other bass vocalists, such as Geoff Castellucci of Voicplay, often utilize this style (take the E1 in “Warriors”, “You’re a Mean One Mr. Grinch”, and “Oogie Boogie’s Song”). Avi Kaplan (formerly of Pentatonix) uses much more of his chest and fry (take all of “Black is the Color of my True Love’s Hair” with Peter Hollens, the G1 isolated growl notes in “Natural Disaster”, and the C1 underlying growl notes in Change on the Rise”). In terms of strength in the lowest register(s), there are still deeper voices! Take the Russian Oktavists (and Basso Profundo vocal type, which are technically different) who habitually sing below the coveted Bb1 with that beautiful, bellowing, and booming resonance (an overlooked staple in low notes...). Take the phenomenal Kovcheg Ensemble with their covers of “Down the Mother Volga”, “Oh, You Wide Steppe”, and “Song of the Volga Boatmen”. Moreover, take the Trinity Choir’s cover of Goncharov’s “Krestu Tvoyemu”, or basically any work by Vladimir Miller. Sorry for the unnecessary rant, but I feel that low notes are really only *now* becoming a topic of vocal pedagogy with MOST teachers just going “wow, look at that note!” or “yeah, listen to how clean that is” WITHOUT ACTUALLY TEACHING what’s going on. To their credit, most of them are trained for the pop/musical theater realm, and those who are trained for opera/classical barely experience this in their singing careers either. However, for many a low baritone and bass singer, there needs to be more teaching of the lower register. How does one comfortably hit low notes? How does one expand their lower range? Why is it important to understand the need for a strong lower voice (compared to Acapella which uses us mostly for a baseline with NO SINGING)? Most importantly, how do I sing low HEALTHFULLY?? There’s virtually nothing for us when it comes to safely singing with lower voices, but everyone can tell you about your upper register(s). Think about it... most coaches will teach you that you can sing in your chest voice, mix, head, and falsetto with extensions as fry and whistle respectively. However, don’t neglect your lower range, as it will strengthen your upper register(s) and vice-versa. And people love the high notes, as we know. All of pop is high baritones and tenors, and everyone remembers the Ariana Grande and Mariah Carey whistle tones. Let it be known that Dimash Kudaibergen is on another level, hitting the strongest whistle note at a D8 in “Unforgettable Day” at Gakku, but he also showcases an incredible range as a low baritone who has trained his way over two decades to the star that he is; he earned his spot. I guess what I’m trying to say is that lower representations of the voice are so often overlooked and rarely mentioned, which is infuriating. Let’s finally talk about vocal health and safely singing in your lower register! Thank you for your time. I hope you have a good day.
For anyone who’s confused, I’ll try to clear things up as briefly as I can. Firstly, the twitch chat had the name of the technique wrong. The technique is called the subharmonic register, not a subsonic note. (Subharmonics is also technically a misnomer, but it’s named after the subharmonic series used in string instruments which led to the discovery of the vocal technique.) The subharmonic series is an infinite series using harmonics to produce undertones an octave below a fundamental pitch. For the human voice, this is done by utilizing both the vocal cords and the vocal fold simultaneously. (So if you can sustain an Eb2 while properly engaging the vocal folds you’ll get a 3 note chord with the most prominent not being an Eb1). Due to the limitations of the human anatomy, the fourth subharmonic register is the furthest into the series humans can access (as far as I’m currently aware). David Larsen has videos that go into much more detail as well as multiple tutorials on his TH-cam page if you want to learn more. Geoff learned about subharmonics through David in case you were wondering about his credibility.
Sub harmonic technique is using the harmonic sound to make the note your singing sound a full octave lower. The "subharmonic" doesn't mean below sound, it means octave below
Elephants and giraffes can make and hear sounds of 10 Hz or slower. For a long time biologists thought that giraffes were mute, but an 8-inch larynx makes sounds so low, humans have no hope of hearing it without pitch-shifting.
I know there are about a million comments about the subharmonics already, but I just want to add a little to it: When holding a tone and relaxing towards a fry, there's a tiny place between the 2 where one vocal fold vibrates differently than the other creating a kind of overtone or harmonic in the voice that makes it sound like a note an octave lower than the original tone to us because our brain figures the frequencies heard out that way. In reality it's 2 different notes being made by the same throat. It can be replicated on instruments. To keep the subharmonic for longer than a "tap" you need very good control of the balance of air pressure and how tense the vocal folds needs to be. The good news is that humans easily adapt and get muscle memory, so after a while of training this you'll be able to pop in and out of it like it's nobody's business. When practicing it in the start, when you can hold it, the balance can be a bit off so the subharmonic can sound raspy, the original note can be heard clearly above, the subharmonic can pop in and out of tone or fry and generally not sound smooth, but after a while of practice it will sound smooth. Also when you start out learning, often you'll be able to hold 1 subharmonic note and not change it around alot, but after a while you'll be able to move it like your voice. There are "layers" to this technique as well, I know the 2nd subharmonic is a 5th below the first subharmonic, and it's done the same way, just inside that first subharmonic place in your voice. With this you'll be able to sing really low notes. Me for instance has a lowest chest note of G2, but I'm able to go down in the 1st octave with this technique. Little side note; even with perfect execution, subharmonics aren't too loud and they don't sound exactly like a clean note, so you really get the best effects on a mic. Fun fact: Personally when I talk normally I talk quite relaxed so there are times when my voice just pops into subharmonics and I say a sentence in that technique without really trying to, cause I've practiced it a lot and my voice naturally relaxes close to the subharmonics heh.
Oh, and btw, check out David Larson on YT, he's a mad scientist with the subharmonics and low notes techniques. He's the one Geoff watched to learn it :)
We humans can't hear below 20Hz, but you can see and feel it. Look up alligator water dance, that's caused by sound that we can't hear, but you can see the effect of it on the water. I think it's called subharmonic because he's actually singing an octave higher than what we hear, but the technique kind of requires a mic to work properly from what I understand.
A subharmonic note is made by singing a note, but then manipulating your throat to amplify the harmonic that is an octave below the base note you are singing.
The easiest way to understand subharmonics is basically an "inverted overtone" - your vocal chords themselves aren't actually vibrating naturally at that note, it's something of an "undertone" you could say.
That's not how Geoff explains this type of singing in his video though. I've never had to learn low low low notes, so I took his word on it. It's just a natural stretching if the folds that causes the vocal frequency reduce into a fry. Clearing is voice is a method of discovery that allowed for that same "fry" type phonation without unneeded tension that would lose the pitch. In fact, it's accentuating lower pitches but nothing below the actual fundamental. The sounds we here are still a combination of emphasized overtones... just low ones hahaha
@@BigBrainSinger I think he sort of does explain it that way, just not in the same words. I haven't watched his video in a while (pretty sure I know the one you're talking about on "how to sing bass" or something), but I remember him describing it as basically relaxing the vocal chords to the point the note drops an octave below the note you're actually singing. That's a pretty accurate description of *how* to achieve it I think, but what's actually happening is that there is a harmonic frequency produced - it is not a single clear, solid note. Normally, like on guitar, you think of harmonics as when someone lightly touches a string, resulting in a note higher than the actual finger location would normally produce. Subharmonics is basically the opposite effect - rather than a note an octave higher, it produces a note an octave lower than would normally be produced. Rather than an overtone, it produces an undertone. The principle is very similar though. I think the only reason it's called "subharmonic" is to denote that the resulting harmonic note is lower, not higher.
He's into the subharmonics, similar to Tibetan Deep Voice, i think. You can look up Jonathan Goldman and learn about Tibetan Deep Voice, (the Tibetan Monks chant that way).
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-40 Hz does not make sense physically. Negative can be used in a vibration involving destructive interference (think noise-cancelling headphones) but that deals with negative *amplitude*. The other negative that could work is as a vector of propagation, where you specify right or up as positive and therefore, left or down as negative. Remember that Hz measures cycles per second. Neither of those measures can be negative, unless you invoke rear-ward time travel, which is so far an impossibility.
@@BigBrainSinger yeah not trying to be combative but how did you watch geoffs video on his sub harmonics and not learn the term? and i'm not sure how someone in chat saying something would make you refer to something incorrectly like 20 times?
Because he was answering a question on the chat and the person in the chat was calling it subsonic. He was trying to clarify their question with it. Not that hard to figure out. Once the term was clarified he was able to speak to the explanation that Geoff gave in his video about it.
@@twistedknotz5485 it wouldn't matter how many times someone said subsonic I wouldn't never call the subharmonic technique that lol. And no one would I'd they were actually familiar with it. If someone asked me about the "subsonic" technique I'd say "subsonic? Do you mean subharmonic?"
I've never studied or anything like that so you can correct me if I'm wrong but to me a basso profundo is not just the ability to hit low notes its also about how full the note sounds. Like I said correct me if I'm wrong.
You comment that you wish you had your keyboard plugged in for that last note... unless it is a MUCH wider keyboard, he falls off the end of it fairly frequently. That last E was his lowest at the point, but he has worked down to B0 consistently now. I seriously am looking forward to the first time he goes into -0 range.
I think both Tim Foust and Geoff Castellucci can hit A0-A5. I don't know if they use the same techniques to reach A0. This is based of the compilation bass battles. They might not even be up to date. You sir. can probably smack around half of the 1st octave subharmonic notes if you tried.
I just wanted to talk about subharmonics a bit. As others have said, it's sort of an undertone. You sing or hum the fundamental pitch, then incorporate vocal fry to produce a note 1 octave below the fundamental pitch. This is known as the first subharmonic. By manipulating your vocal fry further, you can even slip into the second (1⅕ octave below the fundamental pitch) and third (2 octaves below the fundamental pitch) subharmonic. Anyone can do it, but it's not easy to get it right. The position of your larynx doesn't effect being able to preform subharmonics, but it does effect the tone. As a female, I don't really have a use for the technique, but it's fun to play around with.
Well, the fry is just a physical thickening of the folds that forces them to slow down and decrease pitch without decreasing subglottal breath pressure... I've done my research since this video. A lot of wild nonsense in this comment section lol
Definitely a lot of fun. I'm a very deep bass with a non-subharmonic range of D1 to F4, but have played with sub harmonics to get into the 0 barrier. But the real fun is teaching my daughter. She's only 12 and very tiny. Thanks to my genetics she is a contralto, and sings down to D3. It's going to be fun watching reactions when she can start going down into the F2 / G2 area as a tiny little girl lol
@@sirvincentknight As a contralto myself, I'd love to see that! 🙂 The look on people's faces when I hit an F#2 is priceless, even more so when I use subharmonics to get into the 1st octave. But hearing it come out of a small girl, that would take the cake 😁
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I assume its called subharmonic becouse you are humming the note an octave above the note you are acually creating in combination with the kind of vocal fry
He's not a profundo, he's just a bass. Profundos need to be able to project at least a C2 in a big room without amplification and be heard, like an opera singer would. He doesn't have a modal C2, and certainly not one that he can project in a big room. Furthermore he has amplification here ; most of the time actually. The lowest modal note he displays here is a C#2, and there is an amount of fry. Even then he's not close to be a profundo, because of the amplification he needs for it to be heard. Without amplification he is probably more of a high bass/bass-baritone. The E1 at the end has a frequency of 41Hz ; this one and the two (both A1s) just before are subharmonic, so not very powerful in terms of volume compared to a comfortable modal voice. Regarding subharmonics, there is a subharmonic suite that has been theorized, that is a suite that mirrors the harmonics suite. That means, considering the technique to produce those notes (one octave lower than the modal note), that further subharmonics can be accessed, and that there are multiple subharmonic registers. The second of those registers lets you access a note that is an octave plus a fifth below your modal note. I have been training the first subharmonic register for nearly two years now, it's pretty stable and reliable, but still not loud, will never be, that's the technique's nature ; for around 6 months I have been trying to access the second register with little to no success. It has "unlocked" only a couple of weeks ago, I now have to stabilize it, which might take me one to two more years.
Wrong definition of "subharmonic" its not subharmonic as in below all harmonics its subharmonic as "below the principle harmonic" he is hitting a normal note, like g2 for example and hitting the primary harmonic then he elongates and relaxes the vocal cords and there is a weird point at which the subharmonic frequency pops out stronger than the root. So its an emphasis of the subharmonic frequency of the primary harmonic. hence subharmonic
Yeah, I'm hearing some of these people talk about "downward harmonics" and I'm pretty sure that's not how resonance works. Geoff's video just describes him physically thickening the vocal folds to cause them to slow down into a vocal fry and therefore vibrate at a lower frequency/pitch. Some people here are over thinking it hahaha. Thanks for the practical intelligence CT
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If you want a REALLY deep note, Listen for Geoff's singing in Voiceplay's "My Mother Told me"
He sounds like a foghorn!!
Or his solo version of "The Headless Horseman."
Geoff actually has a more than 5 octave range. He can go from fairly high tenor to beyond bass.
I think it is notes below the standard keyboard...Not sure if that a good discription for sub harmonic. I'd like to see one.
"What's the difference between a bass and a 'basso profundo'?" That last note.
A basso profundo is defined by the ability to sing below a standard bass voice. Typically, a basso profundo reaches down to F1 or slightly lower; whereas, a typical bass peters out below about B1 or even C2. Geoff is definitely a basso profundo, but also does a lot of lyrical (basso contrante) work, as well, where he sits around E2 and may dip down to A1 if the key requires it... still going lower than a typical bass, but not low enough to be considered a basso profundo in that moment or song. He switches up roles between those two types of bass and also sings a lot of lines that never really drop below baritone, too. He is definitely not a one-trick pony.
@@johndeeregreen4592 I appreciate the explanation; thank you!
oh no no no wait until this mans hears the B0 foghorn Geoff
I don't know if I'll ever get tired of people hearing Geoff for the first time in this song. And just waiting for the last note. Its just not a reaction without people immediately replaying the end.
That last note was an E1. Geoff has a crazy range.
My favorite of solo Geoff stuff is his arrangement of "Blackbird". Shows off his wonderful head voice as well, and the arrangement is beautiful.
Agreed! It's stunning.
Yeah, it's lovely.
My favorite is sixteen tons though.
Subharmonic technique not subsonic
It’s an easy way to get lower notes just gliding/sliding down an octave
Geoff is a beast, and what’s funny is he considers himself a baritone not even a bass.
Well it's more about stretching the fold into a vocal fry via manipulation of the musculature, whereas a "slide" would imply change of air flow. I'm familiar with Geoff's guide. This is just a conversation that came up in Twitch chat where someone mentioned the idea of "subsonic" sound, so that's where the idea came up.
@@BigBrainSinger Subsonic is only used for firearms munitions. Most rounds are faster than the speed of sound.
Subsonic rounds don't break the sound barrier. Mostly used when using a suppressor/silencer. You don't want the sound of the bullet breaking the speed of sound to add noise into the mix.
Chat was using an incorrect usage of the word.
@@BigBrainSinger There's a *difference* between vocal fry and subharmonics.
When he's using subharmonics he is *not* using any form of vocal fry at all.
1:26 "This guy's like a true bass."
Waits for 5:18...
In music, a subharmonic series is an undertone sequence of notes that results from inverting the intervals of the overtone series.
As it applies to the voice, a subharmonic is one or several harmonics created below the fundamental harmonic where the fundamental is perceived to be lower with the original tone in place.
Big brain right here
I keep hearing the term "percieved" or the "ear hears". I just want to clarify that the actual lower note is actually brought out and is not a trick of the ear / brain / or perception. It's actually there. We know this because a pitch meter / pitch program will actually read it as that lower note.
He has a video on his channel where he explains the technique. Geoff Castelucci
I've watched it. Really good stuff.
@@BigBrainSinger Watch it again perhaps?
Geoff has a range of 5 octaves. See it and weep. He has trained his voice to produce subharmonic notes.
I like how everyone who reacts to this is impressed super early in the song and then, BAM that last note. That ending note is an E1 BTW
i d say Voiceplay 's capabilities are best showcased in Little Mermaid Medley but for Geoff The Headless Horseman shows his agility on lower notes and btw instead of subsonic better talk subharmonics
The "oh, brother" line is so much better when you realize that it's his brother playing santa claus.
Brother-in-law*
That was fun and well done by these guys, thanks for this. Merry Christmas!
I agree! Merry Christmas to you too!
This is pretty informative. I've always heard it called subharmonics but hearing this stuff gives good insight
That's probably what it's called. Chat was trolling.
@@BigBrainSinger it is, and he's insane at them. Plus he hit an E1 as the last note
@@BigBrainSinger subharmonic is where you bring the lower harmonic resonance of a note to become dominant. So he is actually singing E2 there but it comes out as an E1 to the ear bc the subharmonic frequency is put in the “spot light”. Jeff says you sing an octave up from the pitch you want. He demos it on his channel. He swaps back and forth between prime pitch and subharmonic pitch which are one octave apart.
@@beatdaddy yes. I'm familiar with Geoff's guide. Haven't tried it myself or had a student who would need it (just because my performing is all about singing high) but I'm learning from these comments. Very cool function of the voice!
One thing Geoff says that is ultimately what I appreciate him is that it's always more important to be a good singer than to be a low singer. Same is true for high singers. Tell a story, sing with good tone and pitch, and be engaging. Always more important than low or high notes.
@@BigBrainSinger exactly. I really like that Geoff said that too. So many people get hung up on the frills; the ultra-high or ultra-low that they forgo just being a great, solid singer who can tell a story and convey emotion.
Final note was an E1. Geoff has a range of almost 5 octaves.
I'm sure you figured it out by now... but subsonic is below what you can hear (your commenter didn't know what they were typing) but subharmonics is something completely different.. there's lots of info on it. "Sub" as a prefix means lower or below... so "subharmonics" simply refers to the lower harmonics in a sound, and doesn't have anything to do with its actual pitch. Another word for subharmonic would be an "undertone".
Right right, I was reading what chat was messaging me... lil trolls.
In subharmonics "false vocal folds" made the main sound ( as in vocal fry ) , he used a chest/fry to achieve the E1 . They are called subharmonics because of the low freq that boost back on the main tone , as a sub is a "filler" ; as per Tibetan Monks low chanting or Kargyraa in mongolian throat singing - Not an easy tho to achieve , more difficult is the control of it . Complicated . He is mastering all this technique and will surely go lower than that .
Watch Geoff’s Headless Horseman video. His range is amazing! His cover of Blackbird is also great! (Those are on his personal channel.) This shows a good portion of his range, though.
Yeah Geoff is pretty amazing. Its astonishing to see someone with his low notes be able to stretch his range up into his higher registers with such strength and gusto.
E1 that's the last note, subharmonic technique. I'm a bass(ish, Geoff makes me feel like a tenor) However with his videos on singing low, I'm getting some subharmonic notes myself. On a good night, relaxed laying in bed doing voice exercises I can hit subharmonic notes I could never hit before. Before I discovered Geoff, I bottomed out at A1, after Geoff I'm turning into a monster. I am determined to learn that E1
Geoff IS a bass and then some. He reached 2 B0s in the Halo Theme and has done songs where he hit A5 for an 6 octave range minus 1. Santa Claus is his neighbor.
Hi, The last note was an E1 subharmonic. Stay safe
I would rather call his voice "basso cantate". Geoff has a great range and vocal abilities and I love his singing, but he prefers to sing his lowest notes while using a mike and than he EQ's out some things (as he himself explains). For a true basso profundo, able to project low notes without amplification, look for Glenn Miller, Kurt Moll, Vladimir Miller, Matti Salminen, &c. - and most notably mr. Mikhael Zlatopolsky, who was able to project a C1 over an entire choir.
Henk, this is awesome knowledge. Thank you for sharing!
Just found out that a popular TH-cam "voice coach" called him a basso profundo, which is where I think all that rhetoric is coming from in the comments.
I believe they meant it as implying the literal translation from the Italian as "profound bass" rather than actually referring to the Fach system, which is where my brain automatically went when I heard that. The fach system is on its way out. Singers need to be versatile nowadays. No room for the most specific of categories anymore.
I think that the term "sub-harmonic" comes from the pedal tone that brass instrument players can do. The lowest note that is in the normal range has a wavelength equal to the length of the tubing, i.e., from the mouthpiece to the end of the bell. However, with a single pedal tone the wavelength is twice as long as the tube, and a double pedal (which I was one of the few I knew that could do it on the trombone reliably, and a few times on the Bb flat tuba) in which the wavelength is 1/4 the length of the instrument. Thus, the sound is a sub-harmonic of the normal base note. BTW, the double pedal on the tuba is a freaky sound, in that you can feel it, but most people cannot actually hear it as a tone.
Now, whether that is an accurate assessment of what a singer is doing, that I do not know. That is, the resonance chamber, from the bottom of the lungs and the opening of the mouth are acting like the brass instrument at a partial wavelength.
One other thing that I seem to hear that most seem not, is that I actually hear a tone one octave below what most reactors find on their piano's, namely an E-1. I tend to hear an E-0 with the first harmonic of the E-1. And, at my age of nearly 60 my ears are not what they once were.
If i understand correctly he uses his vocal cords and vestibular folds at the same time. The resonance and the harmonics plus the right EQ makes it sound so deep.
basically the technique he uses is the opposite of overtone singing but you sing a low note and slowly relax and it will kind of pop a certain way it jumps down an octave. in there warrior song he hits a B0 its hard to hear but he hit it
He doesn't hit a B0 in Warriors. He hits an E1.
@@unlimitar4469 i know what part your thinking of and its not his solo sub harmonic note, this is part of a harmony
@@tristanberardi2969 Yes I was thinking of the wrong part, but Geoff said in a video that the note he hit was lowered down by an octave in production.
Folsom Prison Blues Home Free. There you can hear some amazing bass notes
Geoff has a video out there on How to Sing Low. He goes into subharmonics. Before he took on being a bass he trained as a tenor. Watch Geoff's Monster Mash, Hoist the Colors, the Headless Horseman, My Mama Told Me, the Phantom of the Opera, Wicked Acapella medley, Moana, Little Mermaid, Tennesee Whisky, Papa Sang Bass, This is Halloween, The Man in the Mirror, Halo Theme, The Dragonborn Comes Skyrim, Blackbird, Friends on the Other Side, Queen in 5 Minutes, You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch, Grim Grinning Ghosts, Carry on Wayward Son, etc. It's all wonderful
Some comments related to pitch. It helps to distinguish frequency (a physical event) and pitch (a perception). If a sound is a combination of 200 Hz, 300 Hz, and 400 Hz and you are asked for the pitch, you will match it to 100 Hz even though there is nothing of actual 100 Hz frequency in the sound. This is called the residue pitch -- or at least was years ago when I was studying such things. Back in the 1950's, a Bell Labs researcher named Roger Shepard created and sets of sounds with circular pitch perception. (Another created infinite glissando and crossed pitch glissando where the pitch rises and then when replayed, the pitch actually dropped. You can find lots of info with a google search.)
It also helps to recognize that when we talk about frequency and pitch, think of the frequency axis as being a log scale. That way, the octave interval is the same size whether the frequency is halving from 440 Hz to 220 Hz or doubling from 131 Hz to 262 Hz.
My understanding (guess, at this point) of "subharmonic singing" is that the vocal structure is that of an octave above the target pitch and I would guess that the "vocal fry" is introducing and reinforcing enough frequencies so that the perceived pitch is that of the low note.
Someone with appropriate tools (spectrum analyzers and wide and flat frequency response) might tell us more.
This is one of the most big brained comments I've ever seen on TH-cam.
Other vocal coaches, and opera singers placed that last note is an E1
Its ok, Julia Nilon did her piano for you. Its an E1. She also believes Geoff is a basso profundo.
Very interesting!
The person in chat who called him a basso profundo probably saw that video. Fachs are overrated imo. The idea of them puts a singer into too tight a box. Geoff also has an amazing upper register which is completely un characteristic of a Basso Profundo by the traditional definition. Unless you're just trying to say "profound bass" in Italian, in which case... yes, he has a profound bass sound lol.
@@BigBrainSinger I'm just a neophyte, but it seems there are just too many ways to label a person, a voice, register, etc.
@@Perktube1 I agree... and it's really only kind of useful for choral ensemble and opera but only as a way to adapt to pre-written music. If you're making your own music just find the voice(s) that work for it.
@@Perktube1 always appreciate your perspective, friend
He is a bass-baritone. Listen to Glenn Miller if you want to hear what a basso profondo sounds like. The different bass types are all about volume and resonance of the super low notes D1 - B1. Geoff without a microphone can not sing an E1 (the last note in this song) very loud at all. A Basso can blast that note and be heard over a choir of a dozen people. Its not a dig on Geoff, I am also a bass-baritone, there are just different voice types
Oh ok, I have been looking for an explanation for this!
Didn't know that you have a TH-cam channel Charlie! Instantly subscribed! 🎶 Really enjoyed the video! You remember me in your streams? The low bass singer who actually did a lower note than Geoff at the end. I told you about the Subharmonic technique in that day too.
Hey! Good to see ya, efes! We're still doing vocal clinics on Fridays, so feel free to swing by!
Yeah I remember what you were saying. Chat was trolling me and that's not exactly a technique I use often. Everyone here is big brained for sure hahaha
@@BigBrainSinger I will! That's true, everyone is big brained here xD
You like the crazy low notes? Try listen to Home Free. Tim, their bass is amazing.
Hell yeah, as someone who got the higher end of the male voice, I'm always happy to learn from the low boys
@@BigBrainSinger I am trying to learn too but I doubt I can pass through G2. But then I am a girl 😛. And not a singer so...but aren't those low notes so beautifully resonant?
@@purpleir I would suggest misty mountains next to this, with tim foust and peter hollens on it ;)
Tim actually helped Geoff with his sub harmonics.
I feel that this video is not inherently lackluster, but not the best use of a teaching implement such as the bass voice. With that being said, take Tim Foust who is an interesting vocalist in that he utilizes “growl notes”, fry technique, subharmonic technique, and honestly just the extension and relaxation of his rich, deep-set chest voice to hit those famous low notes. Each style brings in a different sort of feel to his voice, of course. You have the “growl note”, such as the G#1 in Misty Mountain and the E1 in “Do You Hear What I Hear?” (among others like the A0 in “Sold”). You have the low chest notes covering a COMFORTABLE B1 going down to his fry at an F#1, all of which is sung with an impeccably clear sound. Compare this to the much more “airy” growl note, which is less full. Then you have what could be called a subharmonic technique with the clear, ringing E1 in “Folsom Prison Blues”. This is arguably the most “full” sound out of all of them, and other bass vocalists, such as Geoff Castellucci of Voicplay, often utilize this style (take the E1 in “Warriors”, “You’re a Mean One Mr. Grinch”, and “Oogie Boogie’s Song”). Avi Kaplan (formerly of Pentatonix) uses much more of his chest and fry (take all of “Black is the Color of my True Love’s Hair” with Peter Hollens, the G1 isolated growl notes in “Natural Disaster”, and the C1 underlying growl notes in Change on the Rise”). In terms of strength in the lowest register(s), there are still deeper voices! Take the Russian Oktavists (and Basso Profundo vocal type, which are technically different) who habitually sing below the coveted Bb1 with that beautiful, bellowing, and booming resonance (an overlooked staple in low notes...). Take the phenomenal Kovcheg Ensemble with their covers of “Down the Mother Volga”, “Oh, You Wide Steppe”, and “Song of the Volga Boatmen”. Moreover, take the Trinity Choir’s cover of Goncharov’s “Krestu Tvoyemu”, or basically any work by Vladimir Miller. Sorry for the unnecessary rant, but I feel that low notes are really only *now* becoming a topic of vocal pedagogy with MOST teachers just going “wow, look at that note!” or “yeah, listen to how clean that is” WITHOUT ACTUALLY TEACHING what’s going on. To their credit, most of them are trained for the pop/musical theater realm, and those who are trained for opera/classical barely experience this in their singing careers either. However, for many a low baritone and bass singer, there needs to be more teaching of the lower register. How does one comfortably hit low notes? How does one expand their lower range? Why is it important to understand the need for a strong lower voice (compared to Acapella which uses us mostly for a baseline with NO SINGING)? Most importantly, how do I sing low HEALTHFULLY?? There’s virtually nothing for us when it comes to safely singing with lower voices, but everyone can tell you about your upper register(s). Think about it... most coaches will teach you that you can sing in your chest voice, mix, head, and falsetto with extensions as fry and whistle respectively. However, don’t neglect your lower range, as it will strengthen your upper register(s) and vice-versa. And people love the high notes, as we know. All of pop is high baritones and tenors, and everyone remembers the Ariana Grande and Mariah Carey whistle tones. Let it be known that Dimash Kudaibergen is on another level, hitting the strongest whistle note at a D8 in “Unforgettable Day” at Gakku, but he also showcases an incredible range as a low baritone who has trained his way over two decades to the star that he is; he earned his spot. I guess what I’m trying to say is that lower representations of the voice are so often overlooked and rarely mentioned, which is infuriating. Let’s finally talk about vocal health and safely singing in your lower register! Thank you for your time. I hope you have a good day.
0:55 - that's a pretty horrifying frame to freeze on during Christmas, don't you think? 😉
Yes I do agree
I had a good laugh with it, and also laughed over your comment. Too funny!
Geoff Picasso
For anyone who’s confused, I’ll try to clear things up as briefly as I can. Firstly, the twitch chat had the name of the technique wrong. The technique is called the subharmonic register, not a subsonic note. (Subharmonics is also technically a misnomer, but it’s named after the subharmonic series used in string instruments which led to the discovery of the vocal technique.)
The subharmonic series is an infinite series using harmonics to produce undertones an octave below a fundamental pitch. For the human voice, this is done by utilizing both the vocal cords and the vocal fold simultaneously. (So if you can sustain an Eb2 while properly engaging the vocal folds you’ll get a 3 note chord with the most prominent not being an Eb1). Due to the limitations of the human anatomy, the fourth subharmonic register is the furthest into the series humans can access (as far as I’m currently aware).
David Larsen has videos that go into much more detail as well as multiple tutorials on his TH-cam page if you want to learn more. Geoff learned about subharmonics through David in case you were wondering about his credibility.
Sub harmonic technique is using the harmonic sound to make the note your singing sound a full octave lower. The "subharmonic" doesn't mean below sound, it means octave below
This is the type of big brain I need in Twitch chat
Elephants and giraffes can make and hear sounds of 10 Hz or slower. For a long time biologists thought that giraffes were mute, but an 8-inch larynx makes sounds so low, humans have no hope of hearing it without pitch-shifting.
I know there are about a million comments about the subharmonics already, but I just want to add a little to it: When holding a tone and relaxing towards a fry, there's a tiny place between the 2 where one vocal fold vibrates differently than the other creating a kind of overtone or harmonic in the voice that makes it sound like a note an octave lower than the original tone to us because our brain figures the frequencies heard out that way. In reality it's 2 different notes being made by the same throat. It can be replicated on instruments.
To keep the subharmonic for longer than a "tap" you need very good control of the balance of air pressure and how tense the vocal folds needs to be. The good news is that humans easily adapt and get muscle memory, so after a while of training this you'll be able to pop in and out of it like it's nobody's business.
When practicing it in the start, when you can hold it, the balance can be a bit off so the subharmonic can sound raspy, the original note can be heard clearly above, the subharmonic can pop in and out of tone or fry and generally not sound smooth, but after a while of practice it will sound smooth.
Also when you start out learning, often you'll be able to hold 1 subharmonic note and not change it around alot, but after a while you'll be able to move it like your voice.
There are "layers" to this technique as well, I know the 2nd subharmonic is a 5th below the first subharmonic, and it's done the same way, just inside that first subharmonic place in your voice. With this you'll be able to sing really low notes. Me for instance has a lowest chest note of G2, but I'm able to go down in the 1st octave with this technique.
Little side note; even with perfect execution, subharmonics aren't too loud and they don't sound exactly like a clean note, so you really get the best effects on a mic.
Fun fact: Personally when I talk normally I talk quite relaxed so there are times when my voice just pops into subharmonics and I say a sentence in that technique without really trying to, cause I've practiced it a lot and my voice naturally relaxes close to the subharmonics heh.
Oh, and btw, check out David Larson on YT, he's a mad scientist with the subharmonics and low notes techniques. He's the one Geoff watched to learn it :)
We humans can't hear below 20Hz, but you can see and feel it. Look up alligator water dance, that's caused by sound that we can't hear, but you can see the effect of it on the water.
I think it's called subharmonic because he's actually singing an octave higher than what we hear, but the technique kind of requires a mic to work properly from what I understand.
A subharmonic note is made by singing a note, but then manipulating your throat to amplify the harmonic that is an octave below the base note you are singing.
Subharmonic is defined as an oscillation with a frequency equal to an integral submultiple of another frequency.
Those 5 dollars were well spent 😁
You damn right 🥰
This guy is a True Base
me - Grabs popcorn.
Lol nothing like a 5 octave drop to an E1.
Geoff is his name and he said he uses a subharmonic technique and it’s a E1
The easiest way to understand subharmonics is basically an "inverted overtone" - your vocal chords themselves aren't actually vibrating naturally at that note, it's something of an "undertone" you could say.
That's not how Geoff explains this type of singing in his video though. I've never had to learn low low low notes, so I took his word on it. It's just a natural stretching if the folds that causes the vocal frequency reduce into a fry. Clearing is voice is a method of discovery that allowed for that same "fry" type phonation without unneeded tension that would lose the pitch. In fact, it's accentuating lower pitches but nothing below the actual fundamental. The sounds we here are still a combination of emphasized overtones... just low ones hahaha
@@BigBrainSinger I think he sort of does explain it that way, just not in the same words.
I haven't watched his video in a while (pretty sure I know the one you're talking about on "how to sing bass" or something), but I remember him describing it as basically relaxing the vocal chords to the point the note drops an octave below the note you're actually singing.
That's a pretty accurate description of *how* to achieve it I think, but what's actually happening is that there is a harmonic frequency produced - it is not a single clear, solid note. Normally, like on guitar, you think of harmonics as when someone lightly touches a string, resulting in a note higher than the actual finger location would normally produce.
Subharmonics is basically the opposite effect - rather than a note an octave higher, it produces a note an octave lower than would normally be produced. Rather than an overtone, it produces an undertone. The principle is very similar though.
I think the only reason it's called "subharmonic" is to denote that the resulting harmonic note is lower, not higher.
Regarding basso profundo/bass, Geoff doesn't even consider himself a bass. He considers himself a "baritone who can sing in the bass range."
Low extension as we say in the opera world
He's into the subharmonics, similar to Tibetan Deep Voice, i think. You can look up Jonathan Goldman and learn about Tibetan Deep Voice, (the Tibetan Monks chant that way).
For everyone bugging out about the use of the word "subsonic," it was just in response to someone in chat using that word. Be big brained.
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Basso Profundo is also sometimes called a Contrabass
Geoff hit an E1 in that song, and can sing in "subharmonics"
Another singer, Dimash, can go outside of the piano scale with his whistle tones.
-40 Hz does not make sense physically. Negative can be used in a vibration involving destructive interference (think noise-cancelling headphones) but that deals with negative *amplitude*. The other negative that could work is as a vector of propagation, where you specify right or up as positive and therefore, left or down as negative. Remember that Hz measures cycles per second. Neither of those measures can be negative, unless you invoke rear-ward time travel, which is so far an impossibility.
*subharmonic is the term you're looking for
Go back and check the riff Geoff does right after Layne says "to add a little spice" .
Subharmonic is singing a root note and the fifth so like you want to sing an A1 you would sing a A2 and the fifth above
every time he said subsonic instead of subharmonic hurt my soul. wtf
Lol I was reacting to Chat my friend.
@@BigBrainSinger yeah not trying to be combative but how did you watch geoffs video on his sub harmonics and not learn the term? and i'm not sure how someone in chat saying something would make you refer to something incorrectly like 20 times?
Because he was answering a question on the chat and the person in the chat was calling it subsonic. He was trying to clarify their question with it. Not that hard to figure out. Once the term was clarified he was able to speak to the explanation that Geoff gave in his video about it.
@@twistedknotz5485 it wouldn't matter how many times someone said subsonic I wouldn't never call the subharmonic technique that lol. And no one would I'd they were actually familiar with it. If someone asked me about the "subsonic" technique I'd say "subsonic? Do you mean subharmonic?"
I mean that last note is considered a growl note. Which hurts like a son of a gun until you gets used to it
There are indeed people that use growl notes to hit these lower levels, however in this case he is using sub harmonics.
1:25 “I don’t lie daughin’ first” bahahaha
that last note was an E1 you should hear him doing it live...
last note is E1
0:56 THE WAY GEOFF LOOKS I CANT-
9:53
Check out bass battles to hear the difference between chest, subharmonics and vocal fry.
I've never studied or anything like that so you can correct me if I'm wrong but to me a basso profundo is not just the ability to hit low notes its also about how full the note sounds. Like I said correct me if I'm wrong.
You comment that you wish you had your keyboard plugged in for that last note... unless it is a MUCH wider keyboard, he falls off the end of it fairly frequently. That last E was his lowest at the point, but he has worked down to B0 consistently now. I seriously am looking forward to the first time he goes into -0 range.
I think both Tim Foust and Geoff Castellucci can hit A0-A5. I don't know if they use the same techniques to reach A0. This is based of the compilation bass battles. They might not even be up to date.
You sir. can probably smack around half of the 1st octave subharmonic notes if you tried.
Below sound means "Below human sound" It implies that its beyond what the human voice should be able to make.
Hm... we wouldn't be able to hear it then
You are right! It's not subsonic, which would be below 20 Hz. He uses subharmonics. Think about overtones, but this is the opposite (undertones).
The last note geoff sings is sub harmonic E1
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so for his E1 his is acutally singing a E2 and the fifth above to sing that nice E1
the final note is an E1 profundo, indeed
The last note is an E1
Geoff Castellucci ranges from basso profundo to tenor
I just wanted to talk about subharmonics a bit. As others have said, it's sort of an undertone. You sing or hum the fundamental pitch, then incorporate vocal fry to produce a note 1 octave below the fundamental pitch. This is known as the first subharmonic. By manipulating your vocal fry further, you can even slip into the second (1⅕ octave below the fundamental pitch) and third (2 octaves below the fundamental pitch) subharmonic. Anyone can do it, but it's not easy to get it right. The position of your larynx doesn't effect being able to preform subharmonics, but it does effect the tone. As a female, I don't really have a use for the technique, but it's fun to play around with.
Well, the fry is just a physical thickening of the folds that forces them to slow down and decrease pitch without decreasing subglottal breath pressure... I've done my research since this video. A lot of wild nonsense in this comment section lol
Definitely a lot of fun. I'm a very deep bass with a non-subharmonic range of D1 to F4, but have played with sub harmonics to get into the 0 barrier. But the real fun is teaching my daughter. She's only 12 and very tiny. Thanks to my genetics she is a contralto, and sings down to D3. It's going to be fun watching reactions when she can start going down into the F2 / G2 area as a tiny little girl lol
@@sirvincentknight As a contralto myself, I'd love to see that! 🙂 The look on people's faces when I hit an F#2 is priceless, even more so when I use subharmonics to get into the 1st octave. But hearing it come out of a small girl, that would take the cake 😁
@@DarkEmpress86 once she gets it down I'm definitely recording it lol
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That pause at 0:54 is terrifying!
That last note he hit was as E2 he has a 4 octave range he and Avi kaplan and Tim Faust have blown a few speakes with that E note
it was an e1 not an e2 lol.
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That was an E1. :-)
basso profundo requires a low range, Castelluci has a massive range
Subharmonic technique lol the man does an E1 at around 41hertz
7:40
Subharmonics and vocal fry is different things.
Last note was E1.
"I don't lie daffin first"
Yep. Four octave range.
Subharmonic is an undertone. The opposite of an overtone.
E1 on the last note.
That last note was an E1
the last note was an E1.
He went subharmonic
I assume its called subharmonic becouse you are humming the note an octave above the note you are acually creating in combination with the kind of vocal fry
Subharmonic
Do we read anymore?
He's not a profundo, he's just a bass. Profundos need to be able to project at least a C2 in a big room without amplification and be heard, like an opera singer would. He doesn't have a modal C2, and certainly not one that he can project in a big room. Furthermore he has amplification here ; most of the time actually. The lowest modal note he displays here is a C#2, and there is an amount of fry. Even then he's not close to be a profundo, because of the amplification he needs for it to be heard. Without amplification he is probably more of a high bass/bass-baritone.
The E1 at the end has a frequency of 41Hz ; this one and the two (both A1s) just before are subharmonic, so not very powerful in terms of volume compared to a comfortable modal voice.
Regarding subharmonics, there is a subharmonic suite that has been theorized, that is a suite that mirrors the harmonics suite. That means, considering the technique to produce those notes (one octave lower than the modal note), that further subharmonics can be accessed, and that there are multiple subharmonic registers. The second of those registers lets you access a note that is an octave plus a fifth below your modal note.
I have been training the first subharmonic register for nearly two years now, it's pretty stable and reliable, but still not loud, will never be, that's the technique's nature ; for around 6 months I have been trying to access the second register with little to no success. It has "unlocked" only a couple of weeks ago, I now have to stabilize it, which might take me one to two more years.
Wrong definition of "subharmonic"
its not subharmonic as in below all harmonics
its subharmonic as "below the principle harmonic"
he is hitting a normal note, like g2 for example and hitting the primary harmonic
then he elongates and relaxes the vocal cords and there is a weird point at which the subharmonic frequency pops out stronger than the root.
So its an emphasis of the subharmonic frequency of the primary harmonic.
hence subharmonic
Last note is an E1
You just add vocal fry into your note. That's literally it. It goes down 1 octave.
Yeah, I'm hearing some of these people talk about "downward harmonics" and I'm pretty sure that's not how resonance works. Geoff's video just describes him physically thickening the vocal folds to cause them to slow down into a vocal fry and therefore vibrate at a lower frequency/pitch. Some people here are over thinking it hahaha. Thanks for the practical intelligence CT
last note is a e1
Quite many comments vs likes =D
Liked you're reaction to Geoff, but why no reaction to the other guys?
Whole song was without any instrument...
Clean and overly edited vocal harmonies... what else is there to say?