Ep. 212 | Community (with Eric Weinstein)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- Joshua and Ryan discuss the internal conflicts many people experience when it comes to community and individualism, reason and spirituality, and religion and atheism with mathematical physicist, economist, and podcaster Eric Weinstein. Watch “Maximal” episodes of The Minimalists Private Podcast exclusively at / theminimalists
Questions answered in this episode:
How do I move on from my current community and find a new community since our values no longer align? (18:58)
Are minimalism and religion working toward resolving the same human conflicts? (31:24)
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I think we are all hanging on Weinstein's every word. I really respect him. Fabulous guest! Love you guys.
Nah, I’ve arched too many of his vids - I now realise he is a self-help hoax just like the rest of them.. the Sams, the Jordans, the Shapiros, the Murrays, the Yuvals, the rest.. the two people who are still walking a thin line of some sort of non-self-help and more knowledge-oriented conversations are Lex Friedman and Bret Weinstein.. but they are also heavily leaning to self-help stuff too.
@@thegoodthebadandtheugly579 Sam Harris is a philosopher(popular) he talks about ethics so that might be why he sounds like self help the meditation & spiritual might be jordan Peterson is a psychologist he does help people professionally & if your gonna get help of anyone jordan seems like a good candidate Ben shapiro & Douglas Murray to a lesser extent are political thinkers they talk ethics too but I don't think it's self help because it's mostly criticism to the left so unless your a Liberal there's not much to change I don't hear them give advice for conservatives much & if they do it's in relation to historical events I don't know what your talking about with yuval noah harari he's a historian who talks about the future & where we are now he tells us some things we should know but I don't understand how you figure he's self help bret has some ideas about how we should live but I'd still not call it self help & lex is a interviewer he definitely has ideas for himself but similar to Harris & the rest somewhat I'd say its more ethics he speaks about how to enjoy life
I'd like to know what you think self help is & I'd say all I've heard you name is popular intellectuals which is no reason to discard what they say as self help if that's even a bad thing you should definitely not be dogmatic but even if generally popular intellectuals aren't the most insightful(which I'm not saying) they still might have something of value to say
@@lukecockburn1140 none of these people are intellectuals in the true sense of that word. But they would like you to think that, and obviously you’ve fallen to believe that. They are just Entertainers.. that’s all. I meant “self help” in a derogatory way above btw. All they want to do is just get clicks on TH-cam so they can cash those in. Let’s not put them on a pedestal which they don’t belong to, nor do they deserve it. None of them have come up with one new idea. If you are well educated you will realise they just tell you about ideas that already exist.
@@thegoodthebadandtheugly579 there public intellectuals at least besides lex & I didn't put anyone on a pedastool besides jordan I just named how I see there roles & there's nothing wrong with relaying other people's ideas it's a skill education is needed & I'd say they've come out with new ideas maybe some unoriginal but they've still produced them & some have released alot of scientific papers & all besides 2 books so saying they've not come up with ideas is not true even if there not valuable
@@lukecockburn1140 sorry, I can see you’ve never gone to university or if you have - you haven’t learnt much out of that process.. you don’t understand some basic principles about what constitutes “new knowledge”. Writing a book - even if it is sold at high numbers afterwards - has nothing to do with being an intellectual and having come up or found new knowledge. Repeating what others have said before you but in another narrative does not constitute new knowledge. I can go on and go on but I doubt there’s any purpose to my efforts here. You’re obviously dogmatic and your dogma is your kneeling to the false idols that are these people.. funny also how you single out certain people out of the bunch 😀 I can see based only on how recently they’ve become ‘famous’ 😂 nothing to do with merit or knowledge from what I can see here..
Love the respectful challenge and debate from Eric. Great podcast - ephemeral experience worthy of archive.
Eric is super intelligent - what an interesting guest. I could listen to him all day.
Man, you must be bored out of your mind 😀 and have nothing else better to do?
Im a big fan of the work of the minimalists and listen to Erik Weinstein's podcast religious so it was incredibly exciting to see them together!
Eric Weinstein is in a class all on his own
Eric is one of my favorites guests of all time!
Key point folks: at about 47:00 Eric mentions taking a photo of an object. Digital storage systems facility faux asceticism for a lot of these “minimalists” by allowing them to hoard things in this way. It’s kinda funny.
indeed
Great show guys ! The flow was amazing. Well done......
Eric only appears online because he is way too smart for television
uhhh no
Hah, you are so dumb, Anastasia, for thinking this 😀 no one invites him.. and when they do - he doesn’t stand out. Unfortunately he loves this type of media and he fits with it, and he doesn’t fit with the other.. just media types and personality types compatibility.. that’s all.
@@thegoodthebadandtheugly579 not to mention if it wasnt for Joe Rogan he wouldnt be anywhere
@@papinbala well.. same goes for all of them (Jordan Peterson, Eric, Lex, other).. one exception may be Sam Harris - he was fairly well known around Hitchens and the other “horsemen” before Rogan..
@@thegoodthebadandtheugly579 horsemen? lol ok
I knew it !! David Bowie is alive and have a podcast!! 📡
I think atheists realize religion offers community, but since it's not a community that they are comfortable in, they have to think about how to generate that. Nothing wrong with that.
Music is everything to me, well not EVERYTHING, but it's like a sense of smell. It takes you back to a time and place. I'm not getting that right now either.
I went to a community dinner the other day and I won a raffle of goodies :) lets just say i ate them all :D Merry Christmas
Eric is so smart.
Will the tour include Boston?:):)
Need to get my tickets for SF. 🥰
Ryan - per your comments at the seven minute mark, you should check out Unitarian Universalism. TFS
Speaking of music, #BillyStrings is the new New Blue Grass/Fusion/Jazz/Dead Head explosion.
try the needle drop podcast for new music
It's not clear to me how music can be other than ephemeral, unless you mean something like Bach's _Art of Fugue_ or the Sanctus to Pierre de la Rue's _Missa L'Homme Arme'_ .
I get what he says about Jehovah's Witness...some of my family is and they are incredible difficult people. Unfortunately its a personal choice because not everyone is like that but those that are give that church the worst rep.
We are the horizontal RACE.
I'm happy it's others who are ducked and keep trying to pull me into their self inflicted mire
I'm YOUNGER than American!
And what song does he choose for the victims of Jimmy Savile?
Stay away from collective thinking only your own. Never been happier since detached from externals only close family and friends now. Travel worldwide see culture but don't absorb it into my reality just enjoy the finer points like food wine art. Don't get sucked in to others narratives all have own agendas
I aspire to that. I’m constantly paranoid and thinking I’m wrong. How do you keep yourself separated from these other ideas?
The music comment from Eric made me non-ironically think of the OK BOOMER meme. Personally I'd rather shove a drilldo (google it) in my ears than listen to mainstream modern music, however sooo many people are into niche musical communities now, so I'm surprised he didn't mention that. Anyway, this was mature, handled disagreements well. TOUR IN ENGLAND. HAIL THE MINIMALISTS
The canvas paints itself. The canvas is the dogma or set of dogmas/axioms/postulates from which all logical conclusions follow. Everyone has dogmas. Try not to have the dogmas "intelligibility" or "meaning". Perhaps this is not what Eric means by "the canvas paints itself".
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Stay away from religion politics and TV media and Hollywood sh it's
#911
Hahahahahaha she’s my wife, we don’t have the piece of paper but she’s my life partner….. until she is pursued by a wealthy man or some sexy goddess makes a pass at me. Until then, we say we’re married
Eric is really doing these tools a favor.