What a survivor! Early Peugeot 504 pickup. Delicious Austerity! Rare petrol!
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- Turns out it isn't judging by the comments but it is still lovely. This early Peugeot 504 pickup has just 35,000 miles on the clock. It dates from 1981 and uses a 1618cc petrol engine from the earlier 404. How does it compare with the delightful 504TI automatic that we drove last year?
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I think that there would still be thousands of customers if anyone still produced such a rugged simple electronic gizmo free worklike vehicle . Of course emissions would need upgrading etc but there are still a few relatively simple modern engine options .
Totally agree Simon. Here in Oz, but over the world it seems, all you can get are the overweight, oversized pick ups heavily pitched to US tastes. Years ago had a Nissan one tonner very similar to Peugeot here. Highly practical. Fortunately I now have a legacy Ford Falcon Ute. Once considered a ‘big’ Ute but now a midget compared to current monstrosities.
Such a thing does exist. Look up the Toyota Hilux Champ. The world is going bonkers for them.
Because rolling road block death traps went out of favour in the 1st world. Who wudda thunk it.
There are plenty of these 'rugged simple things' still produced and available new to not only 'thousands of customers' but millions in Asia and India.
Yes Indeedee !!!
Trouble is there are millions of customers who want all the electric gizmos and good performance,fuel consumption and crash safety,it's called progress.
Probably the most desirable car you've featured in a while. Also, I should get out more.
@jamesprince4991 Nah you're in esteemed company.
Only Peugeot could make a practical pick-up that manages to look elegant!
Still quite alot running around here in Portugal...plus Datsun pickups!! My daily driver is a 1988 Toyota Hilux in glorious beige. Let me know if you want me to have a look for you for classics here!
All the best from Rural Portugal - Wales with sunshine!
I was working at a Talbot dealership in the early 80's, we started selling Peugeots in 82 I think. Sold quite a few 504 pick ups with the 2.3 diesel and they went quite well so when a W reg one was traded in it was decided to adopt it as a recovery truck. We then realised it had the earlier 2.0 diesel and it wasn't quick at all. . . Still it was an improvement on the previous recovery vehicle which was a worn out Commer PB!
I drove one of these, fully loaded with car parts, from Suffolk to Beaulieu for the Autojumble in about 1983 and spent a few nights sleeping under the tarp.
My dad had a 504 pick up for years and years and I often drove it. As kids we loved riding in the back. Nothing could kill that old girl. It was even backed into by a lorry which redesigned the bonnet. Fab memories.
It's incredible how many variants Peugeot has produced of the 504. Saloon, Convertible, Coupé, Break, Commerciale, Familiale, Pick-up, Pick-up Double Cab (China), Pick-up 4×4 Dangel. And it's also incredible how many countries certain 504 models were built in: in addition to France, in Kenya, the People's Republic of China, Argentina, Nigeria, Zambia, Spain, South Africa, Tunisia, Uruguay and Zimbabwe. A world car!
add Portugal to the list!
There was also a 4x4 version of the estate/break which was used on the Paris-Dakar rally with surprising success for basically a road car.
And Australia, ironically built by Renault Australia.
In the winter of 1988 I was working in Ludow in Shropshire but living in Birmingham. I was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel estate to work everyday. On a particularly snowy day, I was struggling my way up Clee Hill on my way home from work, when a 504 pickup came sliding down the hill and ploughed into me at about 40 and wrecked both cars. Somehow this gave me a great respect for the 504 pickup. 504 versus 505 and no winners! The 504 was in the livery of ATS tire services.
The irony of the experience was that the driver of the pickup made no apology for trashing my car, but offered critical comments on every other car that came sliding down the hill after him. 'typical maxi driver' as the maxi headed to the ditch. My reflection was, are you a typical 504 driver who just pushed the brakes harder as you lost control.
Thanks for the memory Ian and hello from Canada.
Hello! Especially amusing as I drove over Clee Hill just yesterday. Glad injuries were avoided.
@@johnmarris2965 That steep hill uo to Clee Hill village is Angel Bank , quite a hill alright .
Those little headlights where a real money saver, a 504 headlight even back then was well over £150, these are standard and could be bought almost anywhere for a few pounds.
I worked for 3 Peugeot Talbot garages (one also VW Audi, Simca and Seat) in Cumbria in the 80s.
I worked for Peugeot in Stafford in the 80s. I often made the run up to Chesterfield to pick up parts in a 304 van. Happy days.
@TIMSANDYSURF my work van was a 305 but for moving new engines and citroen BX bonnets both too large for the 305 I used the garages new diesel engined 5 speed 504 pickup.
It drove great with a big diesel engine in the load bay but bounced and skipped about unloaded!
I’d been wondering why it was cheaper to make separate lights and surrounds for the pick-up instead of using existing ones, but that would explain it.
Seems all those style Peugeot headlamps were pricey. I had a 104 with a similar style and the MOT was failed due to the reflective inside of them had disintegrated. New ones were hard to find and extortionate money and no used ones could be found at all. I ended up using Hillman Avenger headlamps and a ‘cut and shut’ Avenger grille on it. Ran it like that for a couple of years. 👍🏻
My dad had a 504 saloon in the early 80's, it was so well put together, it felt special. A great feature was the removable carpets which you could vac in the house!
Until fairly recently, there used to be a 504 pick up that lived at Wells-next-theSea with a lovely patina! 🥰
Another great video of Peugeot loveliness of yesteryear.
The bit that took me back to 1978 in my father's 504 estate in South Africa was the sound of those indicators.
Keep up the great work 😊
I bought a very rusty and broken one for peanuts just for its later 2.3 diesel and five speed gearbox.
I dropped them in my 1978 504 saloon which had an unfixable blown head gasket.
It was absolutely epic.
Fascinating, very rare, thank you Ian!
When I lived just outside Canterbury in the 90s, one of our local smallholders had a 504 pickup. Often to be seen rolling along the country lanes with what looked like the entire contents of a couple of barns in the back of it. It certainly earned its keep.
Carefully loaded without straps or a cargo net!
Now that's a blast from the past. I used to see a few of these regularly but I hadn't really noticed that they'd disappeared.
As working vehicles they were always a bit used, even down at heel. This one is a beaut!
One of your best road tests Ian, your enjoyment of the humble workhorses of the past is infectious. Hope you get an opportinity to drive some more old commercials soon.
The pulling up at the end with the window down was pure Chris Goffey. Have a great day.
You need to try a sierra front P100 pickup. Mum had a petrol 2.0 pinto Camper version thats still going strong. Intresting ford used Peugeot diesels same as LDV. A guy locally has three P100 pickups plus another in Earlston.
Probs my favourite pickups including the mini pickup. My top three.
Peugeot fan I've owned 5 dad 4.
I loved the look of the P100. A few years ago I saw one for sale with an auto gearbox. Sadly my finances said no.
2.3 diesel was the the Peugeot engine. The LDV shared the ford engine.
@chrishart8548 th-cam.com/video/nxncVHOZOrw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ULCLDi8ErM0agqvB at 1:26 Both by Peugeot.
if my memory serves me right it was the 504 pick-up that started the car derived pick-up era here in the UK.
back in the late 80s I had a company 504 diesel pickup with a tail lift on the back. absolutely loved it. quite comfortable and got down the road quick too. we even used it to pull a plant trailer and mini digger. it was a sad day when the 504 was replaced with a P100 owing to our company going all-in with Ford
The Morris Minor pick up from 1950. Followed by almost all UK volume manufactures.
Your enthusiasm for all things simple and mechanical is infectious Ian. You just need a Gitane, a Bleu cap+jacket combo and your elbow out the window, trailing smoke with a baguette on the passenger seat to recreate that authentically French vibe!
What a smashing little pickup! It is interesting how the van and pickup versions of cars do linger around for much longer than the civilian versions. Cool video :)
Could a video be more Hubnut? Brilliant. Absolutely great 👍
Drove one in ‘90 in south London for a landscape company. Not sexy, but drove like a tank and very reliable and strong.
I never knew there was ever a petrol engine fitted to the 504 pickup. As a man in my late 40's I remember these things well from the 80's and 90's. But the only engine I ever came across in these was the 2,304cc 4 cylinder diesel engine.
I don't think petrol was offered for long here.
I had a 504 saloon 2 litre...you could climb into the engine bay, there was so much working room...😊
From the days when pickups were work vehicles and not fashion statements or alternatives to regular cars. These Peugeot trucks always remind me of the P100 based off the Cortina and Sierra.
When I lived in the Scottish Borders late 80s/early 90s a farming neighbour had a later diesel example, he swore by it as much as he swore at the Nissan 4x4 that replaced it, sadly the Pug met it's end when it swallowed a mouthful of water crossing a river resulting in a bent conrod.....
You might remember having drum brakes all round on a 1983 'ute' a while back.😉
Oh yes!
I don't remember the saloon but I used to see a few of the pickups around, used for similar jobs to the Cortina based P100.
What a wonderful thing! I’ve always liked these. I think the round headlights were mostly for cheap and universal replacement in hard commercial use.
Your point about French commercial vehicles of the time reminds me why M.Tissier found such success.
This brings back such a lot of memories for me!. The trucking company my Dad worked for in the Shetland Islands had a 504 pickup, it was the 2.3 diesel, in the same colour as the one in the video. Dad would get a loan of it if he was between cars, me and my brother would be sat in the back on a bean bag and a big cushion (health and safety?🤔) to visit family in the next village!. Dad would also get a loan of it to take the peats down from the hill, during which the 504 would almost certainly be overloaded. Can't remember the age, but I'm fairly certain it had the round headlights. And while the diesel still didn't have that much power, I don't recall it feeling slow. Same goes for the 504 estate my pals Dad had (he actually had two, one for his job selling fish and the other was the family car)
Great pickups though, and I'd happily use one for my work now if I could!
My first job (started March '84) was driving a 504 pickup, pale blue with the round headlights reg. A136SSL. Probably went to the great car park in the sky years ago. It was absolutely bullet proof.
Shown on the DVLA website as tax due on 18/1/1995.
A sweet reminder for thousands of miles in the late 80s and the beginning of the 90s. Specs are market dependant. In Israel we had the 1.8 petrel and the 2.3 diesel only as well as few copies of the Dangel. Oh, and steering column gear lever. The rear lamps came from other Peugeot commercials. Still one of the more fun to drive cars around.
Nice work on the editing for this video. I appreciated how you switched from an interior view to an exterior view as you pulled out of a junction.
Gosh what a lovely part of the country you live in Ian! My mum had a seven seat 504 estate in the early 80’s. Served her very well to chuck us four kids and pals in - all well until she forgot to put the handbrake on and tried to stop it with her leg.
Brings back memories, I knew someone with a later version which ran for absolutely years. Maintenance seemed to be mostly a matter of hitting things when they stuck, or bashing them back into shape when they got bent.
Old school for the early 80s, and DIY fixable. Basic, simple, and without digital interference. Happy days.
A great review, I remember them everywhere in the late '80s. The clocks look the same as in a peugeot 104. Please do a Renault 16 they are great! (a tx model if you can find one!)
Wow I remember seeing these when I was a child. Haven't seen one for years! I also saw quite a lot of Renault 4 vans as a local landowner had a fleet of them for his gamekeeper, woodman etc When I started working as an engineer the company I worked for had a Ford P100 (Sierra fronted) with the good old 1.8 turbo diesel. The rear could be a bit lively in the wet so a huge steel plate was added to weigh it down a bit as we mostly moved lightweight items. Great memories of the old workhorses that did the important stuff back in the day. Thanks for sharing Ian!
Lovely example Ian & Carly. Really enjoyable.
That looks delightful. RDX I think is a Suffolk registration. The stripey driver's door card is playing a trick on my eyes.
There used to be one of these parked around the corner from where I grew up in the 1990s. Also red, think it was a D registration.
I think RDX is an Ipswich registration so it’s a long way from home!
This takes me back. My best friend and his dad had the later diesel version of the one featured in the same colour. He had it for years and only sold it on when he finally got fed up with welding it for another MOT. We loved that thing.
What a rarity over here, lovely to see
My family had one of these in the late 90's early 2000's. It was an -84 with the 2.3 diesel and a 4-speed on the column (As all vehicles with bench seats should have) As an 18 year old with a fresh license I drove that thing everywhere. I remember my friends finding it quirky with the turn signal being on the wrong side (LHD) and operating the horn as well.
Brings back memories of my time working for a plant hire company who used to run these with the 2.3 diesel for service vehicles. To put it simply. They were absolutely shite from front to back
That was great 👍 I'd be very happy to find one of those in a barn. 😁
Nice! I remember the super rusty one on the Not Economically Viable YT channel.
Thanks for sharing and taking us along
I went to work in southern france as an apprentice in one of these back in 1987. It was the works mota. Blue, and really comfortable inside. It lugged all our kit from Dudley to the french , Spanish border. Took 13 hours. Good times.
Drove one on a farm I worked on in the early `80's, always like the look off them with the elevated rear end. Love the look off the example here with the tonneau cover.
Worked for a landscape gardening business which had one of these. Towed a ride on lawn mover on a trailer. I remember it being comfortable and slow.
A car out of time.
Built it seems from what was left in the parts bin left towards the end of a run.
Just look at the market - pickups in Europe!
Just look at the tries n failures - mist famous in the UK the mini pickup, grat idea but never really took off. A LR swb or LWB a little less rust free.
I run a series SWB open back "pickup" & its handy but not real practical.
Awesome, thank you. Lovely view from the cabin, what a scenery, it's quite excellent driving throught it with an orange 504 pick up, delightful. Fingers crossed for a future HubNut review of the 4x4 Dangel variant. Thank you, a very well-put together and seriously enjoyable, video review.
Worked on a farm thirty-odd years ago. They ran a diesel 504 pick up and when that succumbed to terminal rot, they tracked down a petrol replacement. Chunky tyres on the rear wheels seemed to get it to most places on the farm with minimal drama.
Just arived home and thought my lady was watching an episode of magnum PI with Tom Selleck 😂 but seriously instead yet another outstanding episode of hubnut MJ
I used to service and mot one of these each year back in the 90’s for a business in Ferryside ‘Carmarthenshire’. What a great vehicle it was . Spent many days on the beach too’ just kept on going.
No 504s on Ferryside beach these days! Mostly shiny sh1t now :-)
Such a wonderful pickup!! In Argentina the first ones came with 4-speed on the column and four round headlights
Our local council ran a fleet of 504 pick ups with the 2.3 diesel engine. These are still in daily use in parts of Africa
My family’s Peugeot dealership in Bridgend had a 504 pickup registered new in 1989. We used it for towing a trailer to other dealers for new car swaps. It was a great tow vehicle which would hold 60mph easily and was very stable on the motorway
Great pickup truck. I love the 504 saloon that you reviewed a while back. The 504 is probably one of my favourite cars of all time. I had a Pug 305 estate many years ago and that was a lovely car too.
In August 1989 I moved house and I borrowed one of these to help with that move. I loved it, but I had owned a 504 Ti in 1981. I still miss that car.
I know builder who still uses his as a daily work vehicle. It's been patched and painted over again and again but refuses to die.
You have some of the best driving roads in the world in Wales
I also quite like that Peugeot pick up
My dad had a 2.3 diesel the same colour. I remember being underneath it as a kid. The prop shaft runs inside a tube.
Used to drive a 504 Pick Uo Diesel at the local Peugeot dealer! Great fun. My grandfather had 2 403 pick-up (1 petrol, 1 diesel) and a 203 pick up. I started driving at the age of 9 in the diesel 403! All of them, including the 504 had the gear lever in the steering column!
Great video as usual.
I'm surprised you've never done a video on the Peugeot 405 as they were extremely popular in the day....
even Top Gear praised them.
And of course you know someone who has several of those..............
Maybe once he's got his on the road you could do a review on on the 405.
Looking forward to some more tinkering videos❤
Memories of two London to Bristol return trips in one day on a single tank of diesel in the company estate 405...
@daviddb2528 from one tank the best I ever got was 790 miles.
Most of that was motorway miles with the speed between 60 and 70 mph
That is magnificent
What timing! There is a poorly green 75 504 estate getting a 'Level 1 Tidy' at the Coldwarmotors compound this week. It may be a parts car but it looks fancy from 10 meters.
Fabulous stuff. I hope your camera operator wasn’t left standing there at the end.
Having the two of you really adds to the experience. Brilliant work 👍
Yes, why cant they just make these small trucks again, Datsun,Toyota,Chevy luv,Dodge D50,😢Great video ian, brought back great memories.
I’m fairly sure I used to see that exact pickup in Bala when I used to live there between 2019 to 2022.
Utterly gorgeous thing.
That is glorious but not quite as glorious as that Welsh countryside. Can't wait to return in May!
Love it. Looks great in orange.
Unique gearstick. - seems somehow disappointed!
There's still one near me, still doing exactly what it what was designed to do - load carrying for a small business.
Magnificent video and a lovely surprise to see it pop up on my tele. A pair of 504 pickups bear quite a responsibility for me owning the 504Ti now. When I was 17 (37 years ago😭) I got a job delivering gaskets to lady home workers. We used a white diesel and a blue petrol - I commandeered the petrol as I preferred the drive. They must have been updated versions of this early model as each had armrests on the doors and the centre air vent pulled up as it does in my saloon. Also I think they had umbrella handbrake levers but I may have misremembered this. Both were as tough as old boots and took all the abuse a group of teenage delivery drivers could throw at them. Drift well in the snow too! A couple of years ago I tried to buy a tired 504 pickup at auction but was out bid by a certain Mr Hammond.
This brings back some memories when a 'ute' was exactly that, no frills or unnecessary creature comforts. Simple designs and simple to service. No expense made. These worked for a living where a 'car' was more to be enjoyed.
Dream one-type collection;
504 Ti saloon
Pickup
Diesel Break
V6 cabriolet
V6 Coupe
That would do me.
Sorry Citroen
There's one in Perth Western Australia An enthusiast purchased, did long tour around Europe and then shipped back & restored
At 80kph max was it a long tour or just took a long time? 😁
The later front end ones were still visible on roads in the early 2000's. I think Peugeot even run one of these in the Paris to Dakar rally as I have seen it on display at Goodwood Festival Of Speed.
Awesome trucks! A friend of mine had one that he bought new in the late 80's - his neighbours complained that it brought down the tone of the neighbourhood as it sat in his driveway!🙄🤣
I dont miss a fly-off handbrake, had one on my Citroen Dispatch (1.9 NA Diesel Fury) numerous times I got out and kicked the handbrake off.... fun on a hill...
I dorve a late (ish) version for a delivery company with a 2l petrol engine in it. It went like stink and I was always expecting to get done for speeding. Great fun.
much love from kenya , planning on restoring my 504 pickup
Basic but brilliant
A real hubnut pick up, better than any of the new ranger type pick ups
This reminds me of the 1st-gen Isuzu Faster in that if you didn't know it was based on a sedan, you'd think it was designed from the outset to be a pickup.
Also (and I've probably said this in an earlier video), you live in an absolutely beautiful area of the world!
“Delicious austerity” thats it. Thats the quote and when indrive my 1979 landcruiser fj45 that quite shall ring true! Delicious!
Love these a childhood memorie
There is always a utility version of at least one (usually more) French car/van/pickup which is targeted squarely at the French rural market, which doesn’t need to go very far or very fast. Nowadays it is the bog standard diesel white Berlingo van, which seems to be parked in the yard of every French farm. The 2CV Fourgonette and various Pugs - including this one and its 404 predecessor - deserve honourable mention. Many are probably still around in deepest, darkest rural France, held together with bailing twine and duct tape.
Just wonderful, these pov spec vehicles last and last, so much less to go wrong.
Probably the best pickup I ever owned ! Apparently it wasn't well received in France? But I loved the 2.3 diesel and especially the 3 seater bench seat. They were a great weight carrier too. In this day and age of sensors galore it would sell like hotcakes. The equivalent isuzu 2wd pickup today is £33,000 .... madness!
A tidy old ute, nice simple cars to keep running. Good video as always, keep it up mate
I bet that would look amazing lowered! Maybe a slightly more modern engine and gearbox, but I love that.
Fantastic video 🥳 A drive down memory lane 👍
OOOooooh! loving the camera work and edit combos.
I really liked this video. What do you think about the return of small trucks with car based platforms to the market? Examples would be the Ford Maverick and the upcoming competitor from Nissan?
In the 1980s I was riding in the back of one of these, sometimes with a dog. This was in to town and the driver was a school teacher. Kids today don't know what they are missing out on!
Love the light commercials. Simply and basic, yet can carry a ton. This is the type of car we still need today. Yet few and far between
You can put a tonne on it, it won't move but you can do it.
@ hahaha
I was holding a stop watch before you said "robust" multiple times when reviewing or filming an older Peugeot. And then you never said it! I am just recovering in shock, I jest.
Another great review of a vehicle you once saw pootling about in towns across Europe (I include the UK in that) and beyond. I remember seeing many in Argentina 15 years ago on holiday.
I think a review of say an old Toyota Hilux or Datsun pick up would be good as these were the competitors of the 504 in the real durability stakes.
Essential Hubnut there, thanks for another thoroughly entertaining no-frills video Ian . Now the UK just needs to get back into the EU customs union again for us Britcar nerds here on the continent to keep our British classics running more affordably. I've started contemplating going all French classics-wise, you know ;)
Don't get me started! I adore continental cars.