This one definitely had me interested in buying... until you tried to turn it on. Damn! I feel like we're getting closer and closer to some really amazing emulation at a proper price, but not just yet. Great video as always, friend!
Did some digging and based on the model number under the ram chip that motherboard is from an old industrial embedded system. I thought for sure it was a workstation PC but I guess not. They go for $100-250 used so 80 euros isn't technically a ripoff, but you could still get a newer and more powerful workstation PC for about $60. Which is my main issue with mini PCs sold as 'retro consoles'.
Celeron processors are only good for the bin, they have limited cache and not to mention lower clock speeds, only usefull for very basic tasks, this is just my opinion 😊 good review thanks
U could take a celeron in the 90s clip 2 pins off the processor's and have them smoke the pentium at the time just when you did it you were lighting the fuse of the chips demise. The last one i did that way got a whole 7 months out of it lol.
You end up solving the problem, however the system drive is a mSata Card (old and slow. M2 SATA and NVME are Faster but that board doesn't seem to hold) and that is holding the Batocera system (Linux+Emulation Station), and the SATA mechanical disk is for ROMs storage. This way you could upgrade Batocera on the future and not mess with the ROMs. The new versions will pickup the ROMs and gamelists and move on. On your case you had to Skip the mSATA Card since BIOS was not picking up. Probably the Card it's damaged. Drop the Card and install Batocera on a flash drive and select the boot order on BIOS to start on first place from USB. And then inside Batocera Change the roms storage to external and it Will Pickup the SATA HDD and build the gamelist
Better get yourself an old office PC and convert into a console with Batocera for the same amount of money. I get the appeal that people don't want to spend time configuring and setting up roms but in this case it is better. I hope the people refurbishing these old PCs get the memo and improve. So you want to tell me that this system more or less performs similarly to an RG35XXH which is cheaper and a handheld.
I don't know what the amp output is for the HDD connector on the mobo, but usually a (mechanical) HDD needs an external power supply (12v 3A - ish) when connected only to a SATA connector. You could try if the HDD works with a SATA to USB connector + external 12v power supply. This setup works only for a SATA SSD drive I think... (since they need less power)
I think these boards have been recycled from old "media server" type PCs, I have a similar sized one from an old Asus SFF PC that I think has an old AMD A4 CPU directly soldered to the motherboard. I don't think that $80 is too bad a price to pay for someone that needs a box that is set up and ready to go with everything you need, bearing in mind that the cheapest Raspberry Pi 5 bare board will cost about the same anyway - and that's before cooling, case, power supply, hard disk, SSD and controllers. With that said, if you need a box that is already ready to go, then you're probably not the kind of PC tech who can diagnose initial boot up problems because components have moved in transit. With that said, I don't need all of that "ancillary stuff" due to building PCs constantly and I too would go pick up a more powerful 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 SFF PC that will come with at least 4GB RAM on "our favourite auction site" for $30-$40 anyway. So, yes, for us experienced PC builders, there's "nothing to see here".
@@budgetking2591 hold up, bro. He MIGHT be onto something. I dont know where he's getting chromeboxes for $12 (perhaps stolen?), and there are near 50 different models from several brands. I've worked with i5 and i7 cpu CBs and trust me, they're capable. And we're pitting them against a $80 new low end cpu from aliexpress. CBs average around what? $300? Cpu and ram wise, you're golden. Dunno about gpu. Wouldnt mind testing this. I looked up some pointers online, seems tricky.
the price of about $90 USD is eh meh okay, but i prefer to get a used Dell or Lenovo PC (metal case) for a lower price and installing Batocera or Windows+Retrobat (software is 'free')
Nah KI has been on these almost the entire time. Mostly N64 depending on which box you buy. The majority of the arcade style boxes have had KI arcade version on them. He just doesn’t play the game enough for you to see it.
"It's time for the wreckage from China... let's go." Thanks for the quick tech tips on trying to fix this hot mess, at the very least I know now what not to bother with.
@@WickedGamerCollector RMA for sure, when you reset the CMOS by pulling the battery you messed up the boot order. I know things led you to that, but the image is probably on the M.2, and in a normal boot it was going to finish populating to the SATA drive. All fubared now.
For me - there is no sence at all. For the same price you can buy used mini PC in USFF case with 35W core i5 6-7Gen with much faster CPU and GPU. As often - it comes with 4-8 GB RAM, some HDD or even SSD for this price. Just need to add some games
Old Dell pc with Batocera is so much better the this old crap they sell. For new options ? .. Budget N100. If you want to burn some money grab an AMD Ryzen or Fast Intel i9 from Ali-Express. Depends all what you like to play.
That system looked like it had real promise. Ordering items from China is ALWAYS a crap shoot (literally) and I’m sorry you got taken with a shitty defective unit 😟
So after nearly a decade of them recycling old and weak android tv boxes they have now started to move on to PCs...but now have very old and weak Celeron era PCs to recycle 😯😫 it seems like maybe my children or grandchildren will get to see them use modern more powerful hardware 😅
I have a batocera setup on a micro dell optiplex and it handles PS2 pretty well. the only real problem i have is with MAME. the emulation either loads or it doesnt. not sure if its the roms i downloaded or the configuration. a lot of the roms i see you test out, dont work on my setup. its frustrating to see it play a gamecube, xbox or ps2 game, but struggle with a 8 or 16 bit MAME rom
Can you set up batocera on a hdd for me? Ps2 and stuff for sure Xbox and Xbox 360? Will buy the stuff and pay to have it done. Kinda want to have a duel boot pc for this but I’m going to get a mini pc with some power to run it
I think that you payed waay too much for this e-waste. This is just dated hardware that wasn't even good as budget hardware of it's time. You'd be better off with a 10 year old nuc.
Dear Wicked. I love your channel alot. I watch every video and they are all well done. I would love if you had a second channel that showed cheaper systems that worked WELL. Sometimes I find myself NOT watching a video of yours because I already know NOT to buy the item becuase its on you channel. Just a thought.
Really like that you showed the proper way to troubleshoot PC issues 🤘🤓🤘 Nerdcore Hardcore
what are the full hardware specifications?
Was waiting for this one.
TH-cam two days later.
This one definitely had me interested in buying... until you tried to turn it on. Damn! I feel like we're getting closer and closer to some really amazing emulation at a proper price, but not just yet. Great video as always, friend!
I bought one it worked 3 times then the 500g hard drive went out.
Dude I have been a subscriber for a long time and love this channel. ,You are definitely a glutton for punishment! LOL Keep up the great work bro.
Yeah want to keep it real and show my struggle 😆
Hey, it runs a ZX Spectrum text adventure... Oh no, it is still just the BIOS 😂.
Did some digging and based on the model number under the ram chip that motherboard is from an old industrial embedded system. I thought for sure it was a workstation PC but I guess not. They go for $100-250 used so 80 euros isn't technically a ripoff, but you could still get a newer and more powerful workstation PC for about $60. Which is my main issue with mini PCs sold as 'retro consoles'.
Celeron processors are only good for the bin, they have limited cache and not to mention lower clock speeds, only usefull for very basic tasks, this is just my opinion 😊 good review thanks
Newer quad core Celerons are usable.
N100 is awesome right 😎
Celerons were good in late 90's. For people that could not quite get a Pentium.
U could take a celeron in the 90s clip 2 pins off the processor's and have them smoke the pentium at the time just when you did it you were lighting the fuse of the chips demise. The last one i did that way got a whole 7 months out of it lol.
N 75 is the sweet spot@@WickedGamerCollector
Good project and cool video Wicked!👉🙂👈
Some very quick thinking by wicked to get a review out of this sh!t show of a pc. Well done wicked 😃👍
I'm going to ship this thing back .. made a dispute on ali-express and got my label.
This is pure crap product !
By now we all have a dozen systems to play retro games on.
Possibly more 😅
You end up solving the problem, however the system drive is a mSata Card (old and slow. M2 SATA and NVME are Faster but that board doesn't seem to hold) and that is holding the Batocera system (Linux+Emulation Station), and the SATA mechanical disk is for ROMs storage. This way you could upgrade Batocera on the future and not mess with the ROMs. The new versions will pickup the ROMs and gamelists and move on. On your case you had to Skip the mSATA Card since BIOS was not picking up. Probably the Card it's damaged. Drop the Card and install Batocera on a flash drive and select the boot order on BIOS to start on first place from USB. And then inside Batocera Change the roms storage to external and it Will Pickup the SATA HDD and build the gamelist
when this issue happens always check ram 1st in my 21 years working with computers not booting bios 50% of the time is ram not making contact.
Remember when the Super Console X actually looked like a decent "Console" ? 😀
You must have a very large collection of china made wireless ps2 controllers.
Better get yourself an old office PC and convert into a console with Batocera for the same amount of money. I get the appeal that people don't want to spend time configuring and setting up roms but in this case it is better. I hope the people refurbishing these old PCs get the memo and improve. So you want to tell me that this system more or less performs similarly to an RG35XXH which is cheaper and a handheld.
I don't know what the amp output is for the HDD connector on the mobo, but usually a (mechanical) HDD needs an external power supply (12v 3A - ish) when connected only to a SATA connector. You could try if the HDD works with a SATA to USB connector + external 12v power supply.
This setup works only for a SATA SSD drive I think... (since they need less power)
Ive gotten better ex business lease refurb Dell PCs from ebay for less money and achived PS2 on Intel HD graphics 6000
I think these boards have been recycled from old "media server" type PCs, I have a similar sized one from an old Asus SFF PC that I think has an old AMD A4 CPU directly soldered to the motherboard.
I don't think that $80 is too bad a price to pay for someone that needs a box that is set up and ready to go with everything you need, bearing in mind that the cheapest Raspberry Pi 5 bare board will cost about the same anyway - and that's before cooling, case, power supply, hard disk, SSD and controllers. With that said, if you need a box that is already ready to go, then you're probably not the kind of PC tech who can diagnose initial boot up problems because components have moved in transit.
With that said, I don't need all of that "ancillary stuff" due to building PCs constantly and I too would go pick up a more powerful 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 SFF PC that will come with at least 4GB RAM on "our favourite auction site" for $30-$40 anyway.
So, yes, for us experienced PC builders, there's "nothing to see here".
@@terrydaktyllus1320China is the biggest electronics recycler. So I wouldn't be surprised that most of their cheap electronics are recycled parts.🤔
Seeing the celeron CPU and the unadvertised specs made me right about thinking PS2 XBOX and Gamecube will lag highly.
Wish they would just sell the pc case though.
A $12 chromebox with a flashed bios running batocera is going to run a lot better.
Hey man.. is there an online guide you can point out?
lol no it wont
@@budgetking2591 hold up, bro. He MIGHT be onto something. I dont know where he's getting chromeboxes for $12 (perhaps stolen?), and there are near 50 different models from several brands. I've worked with i5 and i7 cpu CBs and trust me, they're capable. And we're pitting them against a $80 new low end cpu from aliexpress. CBs average around what? $300? Cpu and ram wise, you're golden. Dunno about gpu. Wouldnt mind testing this. I looked up some pointers online, seems tricky.
@@SilverTester Seems like not enough RAM is the issue. I don't know why 16 GB is the magic number.
@@markh995 some CBs pack dual channel 16gb of ram (2x8), so they're fine. Still trying to figure out how to boot usb devices of one.
I don't think 12V 3A is enough to power the motherboard, fan, CPU, RAM, HDD and SSD
What's the cheapest box option for ps2 and lower?
So…they threw some old PC guts into a translucent shell for appeal? 🤨
It does look good.
Yeah looks awesome LOL 😄
Gotta shift them all.
Al mío le pasa que después de jugar un rato se apaga sola la consola ,que podría estar pasando
Wonder what number the Super Console X will start at before all games play perfectly. X150?
can you do a video on how to set up one of these systems from scratch with a second hand pc
Its a decent option but better options are out there..
Maybe they had the m.2 and HDD configured as one drive with the m.2 serving as a cache?
the price of about $90 USD is eh meh okay, but i prefer to get a used Dell or Lenovo PC (metal case) for a lower price and installing Batocera or Windows+Retrobat (software is 'free')
they let go the sellotape guy
If only this had a PCI expansion slot it would be an amazing deal.
Just convert the m.2 slot back to a 4x PCI express slot and pop in a rx580 n bam it's way better than it should be for Chinese tofu dreg consoles..
They should use Ryzen 7 5700g, rum everything like you have a dedicated video board
Killer Instinct MAME! Finally!
Nah KI has been on these almost the entire time. Mostly N64 depending on which box you buy.
The majority of the arcade style boxes have had KI arcade version on them. He just doesn’t play the game enough for you to see it.
i got one of the hard drives 50gb upgtraded to 500gb ssd and it went from 1 minute start to 15 seconds including boot logo without about 5 seconds max
WickedTechTipps! 😂
yeah .. feels like it this way.
I show the struggle of reviews here 🤣🤣
Why didn't they use a SSD instead of a spinning HDD????
cheaper especially if its second hand
"It's time for the wreckage from China... let's go."
Thanks for the quick tech tips on trying to fix this hot mess, at the very least I know now what not to bother with.
Everyone has more than one experience with the DREADED ALIEXPRESS PACKAGE MONSTER!……..? Or at least people who watch this channel.
Suspect when the parcl was thrown aroun and the case got cracked it damaged the hard drive.
its to the point now its cheaper to hit ewaste and get a older pc
Smart TV?
Pc?
Ps2?
I wonder how many more of these are going to sell now that Nintendo's on their kick, seriously at 12 terabyte hard drive is looking better and better
You didn't install the m.2 drive back after you removed it, did you?
I try'd both slots ..
Slapped in there only windows keeps blue screen moments.
Try'd all kinds of things in the bios no succes there.
@@WickedGamerCollector RMA for sure, when you reset the CMOS by pulling the battery you messed up the boot order. I know things led you to that, but the image is probably on the M.2, and in a normal boot it was going to finish populating to the SATA drive. All fubared now.
try booting the stock hdds witout secure boot
For me - there is no sence at all. For the same price you can buy used mini PC in USFF case with 35W core i5 6-7Gen with much faster CPU and GPU. As often - it comes with 4-8 GB RAM, some HDD or even SSD for this price. Just need to add some games
Yep. I have just bought Dell Optiplex 3050 7500t for 50gbp. Will qdd another 8gb of ram and bigger hard drive and no issues at all ;)
These are more just for people that dont want to set up a mini PC..
so have you actually fixed the sata problem?
Harddisk boots up now only no batocera.
I try'd different bios config to get the m2 to work only nothing.
@@WickedGamerCollector weird is there any bios updates?? maybe put bios in an editor get it working.
what are the best console at all??
Old Dell pc with Batocera is so much better the this old crap they sell.
For new options ? .. Budget N100.
If you want to burn some money grab an AMD Ryzen or Fast Intel i9 from Ali-Express.
Depends all what you like to play.
Dream...
the hard drive just doesn't want to play nicely
Can you upgrade the ram to 8gb in this ?
You can swap ram yes.
Did a teardown in the video.
That system looked like it had real promise. Ordering items from China is ALWAYS a crap shoot (literally) and I’m sorry you got taken with a shitty defective unit 😟
this costs around 124 AU
I had a SUPER Choice Sale 🦾
saturn are complex not even i5 can run at full speed.
Over ten minutes on the video trying to get it to work isn't a good selling point😄
Broken before he even gotten it 🤦🏼♂️
Truly jank pc.Motherboard looks really old,probably used.
Memory bank was totally old and not working anymore LOL 😂
@@WickedGamerCollector Chinese quality!
So after nearly a decade of them recycling old and weak android tv boxes they have now started to move on to PCs...but now have very old and weak Celeron era PCs to recycle 😯😫 it seems like maybe my children or grandchildren will get to see them use modern more powerful hardware 😅
why does it have a rotational hdd.
cheap second hand stock
Its a hot mess msn im shock
Yup same here... almost 50% video how I fix this piece of crap 🤣
Mess sorry I'm dyslexic
My m8 is dead set on one sent him this video I'm put off like Lego
Just removing the battery doesn’t reset the bios 🤷🏻♂️
yes it does most times it goes back to default settings
Junk
I have a batocera setup on a micro dell optiplex and it handles PS2 pretty well. the only real problem i have is with MAME. the emulation either loads or it doesnt. not sure if its the roms i downloaded or the configuration. a lot of the roms i see you test out, dont work on my setup. its frustrating to see it play a gamecube, xbox or ps2 game, but struggle with a 8 or 16 bit MAME rom
Those old dell pc's are great also the mini thin clients.
What specs does your Dell have ?
I'm never able to get mame working. I know I gotta be doing something wrong but God only knows🤷
Batocera runs well on the HP g2 mini as well ps2 runs at 59fps. Only issue is cooling but an upgrade in the fan can be a solution.
@@matthewmcclean2133 I have a HP micro g3 that i use for my vpin machine. works pretty good. may get another one to try out for the arcade, thanks
I can't wait until you come up with the ultimate emulation console. I would definitely buy it!
The "ultimate emulation console" is a powerful mini pc running coinops
@@ryecatcher25 but an affordable system.
@@cblade007 2400ge mini pc. Sub 100 bucks.
But my old super consoles x2 pro and x3 plus runs Saturn and niomi much better than this 🤔
It's awesome that I am tuning in!!
😎
Can you set up batocera on a hdd for me? Ps2 and stuff for sure Xbox and Xbox 360? Will buy the stuff and pay to have it done. Kinda want to have a duel boot pc for this but I’m going to get a mini pc with some power to run it
I think that you payed waay too much for this e-waste.
This is just dated hardware that wasn't even good as budget hardware of it's time.
You'd be better off with a 10 year old nuc.
The casing may be nice, but the workmanship itself is crap. Any branded mini PC beats this
Dear Wicked. I love your channel alot. I watch every video and they are all well done. I would love if you had a second channel that showed cheaper systems that worked WELL. Sometimes I find myself NOT watching a video of yours because I already know NOT to buy the item becuase its on you channel. Just a thought.
That is sad how cheaply made that game system was. And I like to play games.
Blame the baggage handlers
I like the look of that plexiglass shell. I kind of want one for my EliteDesk 800 G1 mini.
PASS !!!
Crazy so bits like we was tort in 90s is not a big thing crazy to look at naw whats strongr then older
Memory check the memory. Reseat
We need more power as per usual wicked