I don't even have quail... But, somehow stumbled on your video and love your attitude towards customer services and post-sale support so much that I liked and subscribed your channel. I pray that you succeed beyond your dreams.🙂👍
Another great video brother I'm hatching eggs as we speak I put 38 eggs in and have 25 hatched and a few more has been rocking around lol this was my first hatch with any egg and I'm loving it
This is a great video, thank you! I live in Hawai'i and it would cost us $2.12 to raise one quail to 8 weeks if using an organic chick starter. I've been binge watching all of your videos. Thank you for sharing all of your hard work and research!
I culled my first 6 myshire quail today. Huge step towards good healthy self sufficiency. Chickens weren't working out for my situation and I eat biblical kosher (personal choice) so meat options are limited. Quail rock!!!! Thanks Zack! You got my going and even gave me the eggs. My family is and will benifit from you. Thank you myshire
You never cease to absolutely amaze me! You my friend are a blessing in so many ways. You have inspired me and I'm sure very many others. Great info!!!
@@MyshireFarm My pleasure, you are one of the best Quail channels around! I loved this cause I was interested in knowing how many Quail would I need? I saw an Aussie do similar about Quail, but I think your description was better. Love the way you broke down not just a 50% hatch rate, but what happens if it's 75%? And you broke that down too. You literally could not have done a better job of this.
I have recently made a decision to raise quail. I have been looking for a source to find out how to raise quail and where to purchase them. I stumbled across this this channel, and over the past few weeks have decided that this is the go-to place for all my Quail needs. You have great videos and excellent information. I look forward to working with you in the future.
I’m glad that the videos have helped and thanks for watching. When you are ready we will be here for you. If you have any questions feel free to reach out
A better approach would be to look at the amount of food consumed as the price varies. That way, you know how much each bird costs you to produce (Sorry...I'm an accountant and this is the sort of thing I do all the time) My quail get a particular brand that I can get here in the UK (Heygates). The supplier quotes 100 grammes per bird per week for the first 4 weeks and 115 grammes thereafter (these are typical values but environment and type may change the values slightly). 0-4 weeks Superstarter crumbs 4-6 weeks Grower mini-pellets (meat birds receive this until slaughtered) 6+ weeks Layer mini-pellets (Layers receive this for the remainder of their life) I can estimate the amount of food required per bird per week using this information: Week 1 - 100g Starter crumbs Week 2 - 100g Starter crumbs Week 3 - 100g Starter crumbs Week 4 - 100g Starter crumbs ------------------------------------------------ Total: 400g Starter crumbs - each bird will consume this much in the first 4 weeks regardless of whether they are intended for meat or breeding. They will then transition to Grower mini pellets which meat birds will receive for the remainder of their life. If we assume they are slaughtered at the end of week 8, they will have consumed a total of 460g (4 * 115) of grower mini-pellets. So, meat birds should consume a total of 400g starter crumb and 460g of grower mini-pellets each. Breeders only receive the grower mini-pellets for 2 weeks so consume 230g (2*115) before transitioning to layer mini-pellets which they will receive for the remainder of their life. For comparison purposes, they would require 230g of layer mini-pellets to bring them to 8 weeks of age. This is the age where meat birds would be slaughtered and layers should have begun laying. Layers (amount required per bird) 400g starter crumb 230g grower mini-pellet 230g layer mini-pellet Meat birds (amount required per bird) 400g starter crumb 460g grower mini-pellet As the cost of quail food is likely to vary, it is much more helpful to know the amount (weight) required so the cost can be anticipated for a given number of birds. It is also worth noting that layers have an ongoing cost beyond the 8 week mark as they continue to lay. From the information above, we can see that this can be anticipated as: 115g of layer mini pellets (since males and females occupy the same cage, it isn't really possible to allocate a different ration. So, both males and females receive 115g layer mini-pellet per bird) For the purposes of illustration, the last time I bought quail food from my local animal food shop, I paid £17.95 for a 20Kg bag of starter crumb (which contains Avatec to help prevent coccidiosis) and £13.70 for a 20Kg bag of grower mini-pellets. Since all birds receive 400g of starter crumb over the first 4 weeks, I can say that each bird cost me 35.9p ([£17.95/20,000] *400 and 15.76p ([£13.70/20,000] *230) for grower mini-pellets. In other words, the total cost was 51.66p (35.9 + 15.76) per bird. That's 52p for each 6 week old bird! Of course, quail are well known for wasting food but let's keep things in perspective. If the total cost of food for a 6 week old bird is 52p, how much extra should we add for wastage? It wouldn't be very much. Anyway, I thought this approach would be more useful as it shows how much of each type of food a quail should eat. If the cost of a bag is different next time I buy it, I can immediately see the cost implication. Now, who says accountants lead dull lives? 😀
Zach I love the numbers. We have yet to get started. If I incubate there is the initial outlay of money for incubator, brooder. heat lamp, waterers, feeders, more than one cage because of egg layers and a cage for extra males. If we just order breeder sets then I only have one cage to buy with waterer and feeder. In the long run hatching eggs is certainly more cost effective but with limited finances the initial set up for the "infra structure" is a little daunting.
Well I took a few takes hahahaha. That video took about 2 hours of compiling research and about 2 hours of me redoing the video over and over and 10 min of putting the video together with the articles hahahaha
Great video, ty. Another topic I would be very interested in is how to keep things going incase of grid down. I have bantams that could hopefully hatch out the quail eggs , and can create a stinky situation for fly larva , but not an option during winter months even though I'm in Florida. I also started farming worms. Anymore ideas? Also, I bought 200 eggs from you of golds&jw& jb . Forgot to tell you that all but 4 hatched plus you added extras so I definitely got my money's worth 😉 THANK YOU.
Wow that is awesome! CONGRATS! We will be researching this (already a little) and we will be doing some videos on helpful ways to do this off grid. It will Just take some time to do some experiments
If it helps I stumbled on powdered peanut butter and birds, it adds many vitamins and minerals as well as lots protein, and stores for a long time, In a pinch, cutting this and other things in could help. Just part my research lol
$24 for game bird starter here and the trucks have been running really low, want to stock up but the product isn't there, found other feed stores and same problem, may order but cost is way higher, I've been thinking towards this.... I'm raising mealworms, wheat berries and fodder to supplement if needed. This may seem far off but given the times a very real question, What to do if lockdowns or the commanding potato kills supplys?
$AU 42 Game bird feed, but now I'm looking at how to make up own feed because I choose not to have meat meal in the commercial product because of what Vets will be soon injecting the beef , while alive.
Thank you for the great info! I assume that it is critical to ensure that all that food actually goes into the quail. What do you do to reduce food waste? We all know how Coturnix love to rake their food into the cage where it falls to the bottom and into their droppings. I have built PVC feeders which virtually eliminate wasted food. What do you do to cut down on or eliminate wasted food?
Also I fully respect everyone's personal choice however mine is to not get the "big Mac" And so I am looking at the very real possibility of being in my own Apocalypse and that is what I am prepping for these quails are really gonna help and thank you for this math it helps. If I don't make it out of this, least I'm giving it everything I can
Zach - thank you for a fantastic video. I soon will be jumping into quail with both feet so i appreciate this. It helps me with my business plan. Cant wait for the egg
Can you please tell us what brand food you use? What is the protein percentage quail need to thrive? We feed all our animals soy-free, do you know of a soy free feed suitable for quail? Thank you so much for this breakdown!!!
Mine aren't getting butchered anytime soon so far I have a pet and my friends are going to end up with names on the rest of them so they're all going to be at least the first batch
Most likely a feed issue or a light issue. Make sure they are getting 16 of hours of light a day and make sure the layers are on a low protein high calcium and fiber. I have a feed video that might help you
I would have to look at my notes but I believe 60% of weight is “plate weight” so a 10oz quail is about 6oz butchered. But I would have to double check my notes
I don't know that every lb or ounce of food is retained in the quail's body (they poop and pee, waste since quail are messy, etc) so wouldn't this number be a somewhat low assumption? it may not make much of a difference, but i think it would be a little more. when I get quail, I'll test this theory out by dividing that amount in food and dividing the quail for 8 weeks to feed and seeing if there's a small or large difference.
Hello my name is Rabindra Persad, i am living in Venezuela and i have small farm with my wife and sons, am starting a smalll business with coturnix quail but in times i feel to give up, cos the feeders for the birds is very expensive and and i would like to know a way to how i can profit with this, thank you very much and please excuse my broken english
Beware cheap incubators you might only get one or two to hatch And if its only one you need to become a momy quail and its not easy Spend the money if you really want to get into it We also tried with the serama hens with ten eggs only one hatched but i will try again because of too many varriables with the thickness of the quail egg shells too thin the seramas break them too thick the quail will not hatch right
@@MyshireFarm thats great I ran my incubator 4 times trying to find out if its me cuz im new or a crap product I say both but i would have a chance with a better model If you just get one or two hatch its very very hard to keep them living and happy chicken or quail We kept our singles close till buddies could be introduced
Zack your math is off. $7 for a family of 4 per meal. It may cost $1 to feed that quail. How about the cost of electricity to incubate the eggs and hatch them? How much to feed the breeders to get those eggs? How much for the heat lamp for the brooder? How much for the water? How much for the time? It’s not just fees costs. Now, if you buy the eggs to hatch out you have that cost. But you don’t have the breeder maintenance. It costs more than $1. Take your $1 and add another $1 for electricity and water and time. Now add feed costs for breeders to get that egg. .07-.09 per egg ish or more. I believe it’s well over $2.5 per bird by the time you butcher. Take into account losses along the way and price increases per bird as you lose some.
In the video we discuss that we are only talking about feed cost. I mention that there are start ups like cages, waterers, feeders, lights, electric etc. but as far as feed goes it is a $1
Yeah my views show different so they are a little delayed sorry. TH-cam is having some issues on backend they say but it shows that it is actually 962 views on backend
I don't even have quail... But, somehow stumbled on your video and love your attitude towards customer services and post-sale support so much that I liked and subscribed your channel. I pray that you succeed beyond your dreams.🙂👍
Thank you and hope we can convince your to raise some quail.
Another great video brother I'm hatching eggs as we speak I put 38 eggs in and have 25 hatched and a few more has been rocking around lol this was my first hatch with any egg and I'm loving it
That’s AWESOME! CONGRATS! and thanks for watching
Its so addicting :) 😀 doing great , how exciting👍
This is a great video, thank you! I live in Hawai'i and it would cost us $2.12 to raise one quail to 8 weeks if using an organic chick starter. I've been binge watching all of your videos. Thank you for sharing all of your hard work and research!
Using organic will always be way to much to raise
I culled my first 6 myshire quail today. Huge step towards good healthy self sufficiency. Chickens weren't working out for my situation and I eat biblical kosher (personal choice) so meat options are limited. Quail rock!!!! Thanks Zack! You got my going and even gave me the eggs. My family is and will benifit from you. Thank you myshire
That’s a huge step! Congrats!!!!!!
You never cease to absolutely amaze me! You my friend are a blessing in so many ways. You have inspired me and I'm sure very many others. Great info!!!
Thanks and thanks for watching. I appreciate you
Wow, so cool that you want to help people. That's awesome.
Thanks for watching.
@@MyshireFarm My pleasure, you are one of the best Quail channels around! I loved this cause I was interested in knowing how many Quail would I need? I saw an Aussie do similar about Quail, but I think your description was better. Love the way you broke down not just a 50% hatch rate, but what happens if it's 75%? And you broke that down too. You literally could not have done a better job of this.
Food Inc is a fantastic documentary.
Yes it is
@@MyshireFarm 👍👍👍
I have recently made a decision to raise quail. I have been looking for a source to find out how to raise quail and where to purchase them. I stumbled across this this channel, and over the past few weeks have decided that this is the go-to place for all my Quail needs. You have great videos and excellent information. I look forward to working with you in the future.
I’m glad that the videos have helped and thanks for watching. When you are ready we will be here for you. If you have any questions feel free to reach out
Same!
Hope you feel better soon. Please take care and get some rest.
Thanks
A better approach would be to look at the amount of food consumed as the price varies. That way, you know how much each bird costs you to produce (Sorry...I'm an accountant and this is the sort of thing I do all the time)
My quail get a particular brand that I can get here in the UK (Heygates). The supplier quotes 100 grammes per bird per week for the first 4 weeks and 115 grammes thereafter (these are typical values but environment and type may change the values slightly).
0-4 weeks Superstarter crumbs
4-6 weeks Grower mini-pellets (meat birds receive this until slaughtered)
6+ weeks Layer mini-pellets (Layers receive this for the remainder of their life)
I can estimate the amount of food required per bird per week using this information:
Week 1 - 100g Starter crumbs
Week 2 - 100g Starter crumbs
Week 3 - 100g Starter crumbs
Week 4 - 100g Starter crumbs
------------------------------------------------
Total: 400g Starter crumbs - each bird will consume this much in the first 4 weeks regardless of whether they are intended for meat or breeding. They will then transition to Grower mini pellets which meat birds will receive for the remainder of their life. If we assume they are slaughtered at the end of week 8, they will have consumed a total of 460g (4 * 115) of grower mini-pellets. So, meat birds should consume a total of 400g starter crumb and 460g of grower mini-pellets each.
Breeders only receive the grower mini-pellets for 2 weeks so consume 230g (2*115) before transitioning to layer mini-pellets which they will receive for the remainder of their life. For comparison purposes, they would require 230g of layer mini-pellets to bring them to 8 weeks of age. This is the age where meat birds would be slaughtered and layers should have begun laying.
Layers (amount required per bird)
400g starter crumb
230g grower mini-pellet
230g layer mini-pellet
Meat birds (amount required per bird)
400g starter crumb
460g grower mini-pellet
As the cost of quail food is likely to vary, it is much more helpful to know the amount (weight) required so the cost can be anticipated for a given number of birds.
It is also worth noting that layers have an ongoing cost beyond the 8 week mark as they continue to lay. From the information above, we can see that this can be anticipated as: 115g of layer mini pellets (since males and females occupy the same cage, it isn't really possible to allocate a different ration. So, both males and females receive 115g layer mini-pellet per bird)
For the purposes of illustration, the last time I bought quail food from my local animal food shop, I paid £17.95 for a 20Kg bag of starter crumb (which contains Avatec to help prevent coccidiosis) and £13.70 for a 20Kg bag of grower mini-pellets.
Since all birds receive 400g of starter crumb over the first 4 weeks, I can say that each bird cost me 35.9p ([£17.95/20,000] *400 and 15.76p ([£13.70/20,000] *230) for grower mini-pellets. In other words, the total cost was 51.66p (35.9 + 15.76) per bird. That's 52p for each 6 week old bird! Of course, quail are well known for wasting food but let's keep things in perspective. If the total cost of food for a 6 week old bird is 52p, how much extra should we add for wastage? It wouldn't be very much.
Anyway, I thought this approach would be more useful as it shows how much of each type of food a quail should eat. If the cost of a bag is different next time I buy it, I can immediately see the cost implication.
Now, who says accountants lead dull lives? 😀
There you go: hahahahaha/ you are better at it than I
Very helpful as I'm in the UK and looking to get some quail. Only 4 though, so I won't need a 20kg bag of growers feed!
@@nataliebutler Have you decided which colour you want yet?
That's $0.80 for me in AL! Thank you for this video!!!!
Awesome! Congrats!
I really enjoy your videos, I don't have to ask too many questions about quail became you spell it all out.. thanks from nc!!
Thanks for watching and I am glad it helps
(Because) lol not became 🤔
Zach I love the numbers. We have yet to get started. If I incubate there is the initial outlay of money for incubator, brooder. heat lamp, waterers, feeders, more than one cage because of egg layers and a cage for extra males. If we just order breeder sets then I only have one cage to buy with waterer and feeder. In the long run hatching eggs is certainly more cost effective but with limited finances the initial set up for the "infra structure" is a little daunting.
Absolutely that makes since. That is why we offer both eggs and live quail. Our next video will go more into that.
Thank you! We just placed our first order, and we are excited about this next phase of our journey.
Awesome good luck and keep us posted!!!!
Thank you for the information very helpful. Cant wait for the egg math. 👍
Thanks. Hoping to get it done before Christmas.
Great video! A wealth of information! Dunked with no edit.
Well I took a few takes hahahaha. That video took about 2 hours of compiling research and about 2 hours of me redoing the video over and over and 10 min of putting the video together with the articles hahahaha
Well done.
Thank you
Awesome video!!!
Thanks.
Thank you for the great information.
Thanks for watching.
Awesome video
Thanks for watching
Great video, ty. Another topic I would be very interested in is how to keep things going incase of grid down. I have bantams that could hopefully hatch out the quail eggs , and can create a stinky situation for fly larva , but not an option during winter months even though I'm in Florida. I also started farming worms. Anymore ideas? Also, I bought 200 eggs from you of golds&jw& jb . Forgot to tell you that all but 4 hatched plus you added extras so I definitely got my money's worth 😉 THANK YOU.
Wow that is awesome! CONGRATS! We will be researching this (already a little) and we will be doing some videos on helpful ways to do this off grid. It will
Just take some time to do some experiments
@@MyshireFarm thank you so much for responding so quickly ❤ I really look forward for your future videos! MERRY CHRISTMAS and best wishes
Maybe duck weed for feed? It grows in sunlight and water and doubles in size every so many days (I forget but not many).
@@TheRainHarvester thanks for the tip, I really appreciate it! I'll have to look into this 😊
@@stacylee8919 I had no success feeding duckweed to my chickens, but others say it works. Haven't tried quail.
Thank you! Great info
Thanks for watching!
Would you be willing to do a video on "Quail Feed Emergency"
We are researching that now but want to make it where everyone can benefit from it not just a few so still working on that!
If it helps I stumbled on powdered peanut butter and birds, it adds many vitamins and minerals as well as lots protein, and stores for a long time, In a pinch, cutting this and other things in could help. Just part my research lol
$24 for game bird starter here and the trucks have been running really low, want to stock up but the product isn't there, found other feed stores and same problem, may order but cost is way higher, I've been thinking towards this.... I'm raising mealworms, wheat berries and fodder to supplement if needed. This may seem far off but given the times a very real question, What to do if lockdowns or the commanding potato kills supplys?
That is for sure something to think about for sure
$AU 42 Game bird feed, but now I'm looking at how to make up own feed because I choose not to have meat meal in the commercial product because of what Vets will be soon injecting the beef , while alive.
Thank you for the great info! I assume that it is critical to ensure that all that food actually goes into the quail. What do you do to reduce food waste? We all know how Coturnix love to rake their food into the cage where it falls to the bottom and into their droppings.
I have built PVC feeders which virtually eliminate wasted food. What do you do to cut down on or eliminate wasted food?
We use a sifter but we will be doing a video on it as soon as I can find the time. Very good question
@@MyshireFarm have you put this video up?
I liked this.
Great to hear!
Also I fully respect everyone's personal choice however mine is to not get the "big Mac" And so I am looking at the very real possibility of being in my own Apocalypse and that is what I am prepping for these quails are really gonna help and thank you for this math it helps. If I don't make it out of this, least I'm giving it everything I can
You are doing great! Keep it up
Do we need to factor in cost of electricity for lighting and heat ?
You can/should but that varies greatly
Zach - thank you for a fantastic video. I soon will be jumping into quail with both feet so i appreciate this. It helps me with my business plan. Cant wait for the egg
Math video
Wonderful to hear. Best of luck!
What about for the jumbo quail?
We discuss that at the end of this video as well.
Nerdy quail math ala Living Traditions Homestead 😉
Right hahahaha
Can you please tell us what brand food you use? What is the protein percentage quail need to thrive? We feed all our animals soy-free, do you know of a soy free feed suitable for quail?
Thank you so much for this breakdown!!!
We have a feed video that goes into what we recommend and the ingredients and %
th-cam.com/video/EtlGN2HWvOA/w-d-xo.html
What brand food are you getting? Do you need to grow at such a large scale to get feed at that price?
th-cam.com/video/EtlGN2HWvOA/w-d-xo.html
Ok I liked it too. So 902!
Thank you for watching and liking
Has anyone tried feeding duck weed? It has protein and grows in sunlight and water!
I have not but I bet it would work well
Is that 50# bag @ $14 a 30% protein mix?
Our is $19 and it is a 28% protein
Is the 2.65 pound consumption for regular size or jumbos?
That is regular size. The jumbos were 2.85 pounds so not that much more.
Mine aren't getting butchered anytime soon so far I have a pet and my friends are going to end up with names on the rest of them so they're all going to be at least the first batch
That’s great. Good luck
Mr.Zach why my quail not reach 90%egg production what is common problem.
Most likely a feed issue or a light issue. Make sure they are getting 16 of hours of light a day and make sure the layers are on a low protein high calcium and fiber. I have a feed video that might help you
How much plate weight of meat does a regular , and jumbo give?
I would have to look at my notes but I believe 60% of weight is “plate weight” so a 10oz quail is about 6oz butchered. But I would have to double check my notes
@@MyshireFarm So a third pound of meat is $1. $3/lb meat?
@Random Brandon is yours a regular, or jumbo quail? Thanks!
do you ship to newfoundland canada
We don’t at this time. But hoping to do so in the future
Is the 2.65 pounds of food for jumbos or cor colors ?
Colors
@@MyshireFarm how much dose a jumbo eat. I’m also ordering some from you tonight I just wanna test my new incubator that just arrived first.
I don't know that every lb or ounce of food is retained in the quail's body (they poop and pee, waste since quail are messy, etc) so wouldn't this number be a somewhat low assumption? it may not make much of a difference, but i think it would be a little more. when I get quail, I'll test this theory out by dividing that amount in food and dividing the quail for 8 weeks to feed and seeing if there's a small or large difference.
Good luck
So. If I order 50 eggs. I need a incubator and around 6 cages
Why do you say 6 cages?
@@MyshireFarm 3 sets of breeders 1 for extra male 1 for weeks after hatching
Hello my name is Rabindra Persad, i am living in Venezuela and i have small farm with my wife and sons, am starting a smalll business with coturnix quail but in times i feel to give up, cos the feeders for the birds is very expensive and and i would like to know a way to how i can profit with this, thank you very much and please excuse my broken english
We actually have a playlist called quail for profit that might help.
Thank you very much is a good material, i will follow it
Beware cheap incubators you might only get one or two to hatch
And if its only one you need to become a momy quail and its not easy
Spend the money if you really want to get into it
We also tried with the serama hens with ten eggs only one hatched but i will try again because of too many varriables with the thickness of the quail egg shells too thin the seramas break them too thick the quail will not hatch right
Agreed that is why we are going to do these tests for people starting out so they don’t waste the money
@@MyshireFarm thats great
I ran my incubator 4 times trying to find out if its me cuz im new or a crap product
I say both but i would have a chance with a better model
If you just get one or two hatch its very very hard to keep them living and happy chicken or quail
We kept our singles close till buddies could be introduced
Zack your math is off.
$7 for a family of 4 per meal.
It may cost $1 to feed that quail. How about the cost of electricity to incubate the eggs and hatch them? How much to feed the breeders to get those eggs? How much for the heat lamp for the brooder? How much for the water? How much for the time?
It’s not just fees costs.
Now, if you buy the eggs to hatch out you have that cost. But you don’t have the breeder maintenance.
It costs more than $1.
Take your $1 and add another $1 for electricity and water and time. Now add feed costs for breeders to get that egg. .07-.09 per egg ish or more. I believe it’s well over $2.5 per bird by the time you butcher. Take into account losses along the way and price increases per bird as you lose some.
In the video we discuss that we are only talking about feed cost. I mention that there are start ups like cages, waterers, feeders, lights, electric etc. but as far as feed goes it is a $1
I am having a problem with TH-cam math. 704 views of the video but 901 likes?
Yeah my views show different so they are a little delayed sorry. TH-cam is having some issues on backend they say but it shows that it is actually 962 views on backend
This is stuff a kindergartner can do... People actually have trouble with this?
Sometimes