Great videos on the X1 Fold 16. I just received mine yesterday. I love it except for the stand. It is not quite as sturdy as the rest of the accessories and the Fold. I don't like the fact there are no magnets to hold the tablet on in landscape orientation which is mostly how I use it. It sits fine on a desk but several times when adjusting the kickstand angle it has collapsed or the tablet has fallen off. That is my only niggle with this device. The display is fantastic and bright. Speakers and sound are great. Inking works well for a foldable screen. Reminds me of inking on my Z Fold 5. The keyboard is very usable. Not as big as my X1 Yoga Gen 8 but very accurate. I actually enjoy using this in laptop mode and find it more than adequate. I will be watching for further thoughts and updates. Thanks.
Glad to hear your overall experience is a good one. I had to give back this pre production sample so no further content unless I get one someday. The stand gets easier to use as time goes on, little weird at first.
@LaptopRetrospective thanks for the quick reply. I want to order one of these, but that maximum 1tb of SSD storage seems so weak in 2024. I doubt I can open this machine and swap out the 2242 m.2 SSD. I guess I can bring an external drive.
I believe you can but the space inside probably limits you to single sided drives. I guess it depends on your workflow but I've never filled a laptop drive bigger than 512GB but I also work on a desktop.
Great review. In laptop mode, does the upper screen wobble much on touch? I currently have a Surface Pro, and the kick stand keeps it nice and sturdy. I like the idea of using the on-screen keyboard but dunno how practical that is.
I didn't experience much wobble on touch. That being said, you use this device differently than a Surface. Chances are, you will change the form factor if you're going to touch it.
@@LaptopRetrospective wait wdym, 7840u was released this year, so it should support all modern OS right ? (note that I am referring to ryzen 7 7840u like with their t14 gen 4)
Considering that a 16 inch screen is still portable even without being folded, I'd like a version that starts at 16 inches and unfolds to be even bigger, with a 100 Wh battery. And as much as I normally dislike wireless charging, I think the keyboard should be wirelessly charged to avoid the issue you talked about where you accidentally charge the keyboard thinking you charged the computer. Also, not a fan of soldered RAM and the lack of trackpoint buttons. But overall, it's a very cool concept.
For me, I think that would be a bit too big personally. I too would like some wireless charging on the keyboard. Maybe in the G2. I'll have more to say about the TrackPoint experience but the lack of buttons was not a deal breaker.
I really wanted to buy the keyboard since it's uses a haptics touchpad, but unfortunately I read that it's only compatible with the laptop, and can't be used anywhere else can you please test it and check if i can work on other device ?
Where did you read that? It's just a Bluetooth keyboard so I'm not sure it wouldn't work anywhere else. Some specific functions may not work like tapping the TrackPoint. Unfortunately I no longer have the sample to test but if I ever get a production version, I'll test it.
Thanks for the video. Lots of great information. I suggest that you consider a more natural color temperature. The lighting you are using has a very blue cast.
Yeah a few videos ago I did turn up the brightness. I can try adjusting the colour warmth too. This video is 11 months old and winter robs my space of light and warmth. 😂
Thank you for review! What about to use a virtual keyboard and virtual trackpad? Is it comfortable? Does it have a haptic or vibrotactile feedback? How can you start to use it? Is it possible to touch via 10 fingers to start it like on yoga 9i?
Virtual keyboard on my version I believe was the stock Windows one. No virtual trackpad was present during my testing. The display does not have any feedback like the YogaBook.
laptop prospective but seriously this is SERIOUSLY underpowered if your cinebench R23 scores are correct... I suspect you're in the low power mode or lenovo is totally throttling performance the way that the screen glitches out when you take off the keyboard is also not confidence inspiring it's still a beta product and you're paying to be the tester... no thanks
Unfortunately I don't have the unit anymore to retest to confirm the power mode at the time. It is passively cooled if I remember right from the HMM so it was never going to be a performance machine. I ran the tests mainly because I knew somebody would ask. As for the screen "glitching" as you describe it, not exactly sure what you mean but Windows does need to refresh the aspect ratio and display area. The only other thing I'll mention is this was a pre-production model, I have not seen a production model in person.
@@LaptopRetrospective passive cooling on an i7... what will lenovo think of next? Seriously, they should just have slapped an i3 in there. You were seeing 600something in single core performance whereas for the "real" i7-12th gen P CPU you get 1850 single core, and even the i5-12th gen U CPU you get 1750 single core. The whole device seems like a joke - especially it's pricing
have they given a spec on the number of rated screen folds i.e opening and closing? These folding screens are going to need quite a number more years of development before they are actually robust. Generally with a new tech like this its very sensible to skip the first couple of generations.
is the screen easy to damage from nails and such (because of plastic)?
For the months I had it, I didn't cause any damage through normal use.
Love the fact it looks like a book while you play. What a wonderful machine.
For many games, it works rather well. Wouldn't recommend a FPS that way. 😂
Great videos on the X1 Fold 16. I just received mine yesterday. I love it except for the stand. It is not quite as sturdy as the rest of the accessories and the Fold. I don't like the fact there are no magnets to hold the tablet on in landscape orientation which is mostly how I use it. It sits fine on a desk but several times when adjusting the kickstand angle it has collapsed or the tablet has fallen off. That is my only niggle with this device. The display is fantastic and bright. Speakers and sound are great. Inking works well for a foldable screen. Reminds me of inking on my Z Fold 5. The keyboard is very usable. Not as big as my X1 Yoga Gen 8 but very accurate. I actually enjoy using this in laptop mode and find it more than adequate. I will be watching for further thoughts and updates. Thanks.
Glad to hear your overall experience is a good one. I had to give back this pre production sample so no further content unless I get one someday. The stand gets easier to use as time goes on, little weird at first.
I assume it can’t be used as a monitor. I would love to see what something like a switch + genki minimal latency input adapter looked like on there.
Yeah, not sure how you would do that without some kind of streaming box.
Can this do 4K video out through either of the Thunderbolt 4 ports?
According to the PSREF, looks possible:
psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X1_Fold_16_Gen_1/ThinkPad_X1_Fold_16_Gen_1_Spec.pdf
@LaptopRetrospective thanks for the quick reply. I want to order one of these, but that maximum 1tb of SSD storage seems so weak in 2024. I doubt I can open this machine and swap out the 2242 m.2 SSD. I guess I can bring an external drive.
I believe you can but the space inside probably limits you to single sided drives. I guess it depends on your workflow but I've never filled a laptop drive bigger than 512GB but I also work on a desktop.
It has screws on the sides where you swap the existing SSD to a 2TB M.2 2242 SSD 😊
Thanks for the information!
Great review. In laptop mode, does the upper screen wobble much on touch? I currently have a Surface Pro, and the kick stand keeps it nice and sturdy. I like the idea of using the on-screen keyboard but dunno how practical that is.
I didn't experience much wobble on touch. That being said, you use this device differently than a Surface. Chances are, you will change the form factor if you're going to touch it.
imagine if this came with the 7840u, it would be able to push out more battery life and also much better gaming performance as well
But not officially support a modern operating system. Life is full of trade-offs.
@@LaptopRetrospective wait wdym, 7840u was released this year, so it should support all modern OS right ? (note that I am referring to ryzen 7 7840u like with their t14 gen 4)
Oh, I'm used to dealing with older hardware and assumed you meant an Intel CPU. Sorry! 😂
@@LaptopRetrospective Ah no problem lol
some models do not offer 2 batteries, is that correct ?
Correct. Some only have one.
Considering that a 16 inch screen is still portable even without being folded, I'd like a version that starts at 16 inches and unfolds to be even bigger, with a 100 Wh battery. And as much as I normally dislike wireless charging, I think the keyboard should be wirelessly charged to avoid the issue you talked about where you accidentally charge the keyboard thinking you charged the computer. Also, not a fan of soldered RAM and the lack of trackpoint buttons. But overall, it's a very cool concept.
For me, I think that would be a bit too big personally. I too would like some wireless charging on the keyboard. Maybe in the G2. I'll have more to say about the TrackPoint experience but the lack of buttons was not a deal breaker.
16 inch when folded is exactly what I want too, and good idea with the keyboard.
g2 when will it come for 2-3 years ?
@@LaptopRetrospective
I would say a G2 would be a CPU refresh mainly and not take as long.
I am wondering how the warranty options look like. O wouldn't buy it with less than 5 years of coverage.
Fair question. I haven't gone to the store page to see what's available at purchase. I know you can sometimes extend before expiration.
Thanks for the review! Please give us more information about its performance and how much became hot in heavy task as it is fanless!
I don't have the device to test anymore but can you define what you mean by a heavy task? This isn't a workstation after all. 😂
I really wanted to buy the keyboard since it's uses a haptics touchpad, but unfortunately I read that it's only compatible with the laptop, and can't be used anywhere else
can you please test it and check if i can work on other device ?
Where did you read that? It's just a Bluetooth keyboard so I'm not sure it wouldn't work anywhere else. Some specific functions may not work like tapping the TrackPoint. Unfortunately I no longer have the sample to test but if I ever get a production version, I'll test it.
Thanks for the video. Lots of great information. I suggest that you consider a more natural color temperature. The lighting you are using has a very blue cast.
For clarity, which shots are you referring to? Studio, mobile or outside?
@@LaptopRetrospective Sorry. When you are working inside on the wooden table.
Got it. My lights can be configured to different ranges. Currently set to 3800K and open to suggestions.
@@LaptopRetrospective I guess 2700K might be better? Can it do that? I bet it would also benefit if there was just more light.
Yeah a few videos ago I did turn up the brightness. I can try adjusting the colour warmth too. This video is 11 months old and winter robs my space of light and warmth. 😂
Thank you for review!
What about to use a virtual keyboard and virtual trackpad? Is it comfortable? Does it have a haptic or vibrotactile feedback? How can you start to use it? Is it possible to touch via 10 fingers to start it like on yoga 9i?
Virtual keyboard on my version I believe was the stock Windows one. No virtual trackpad was present during my testing. The display does not have any feedback like the YogaBook.
I was very ready to buy this in Nov 2022 but after a entire year of being delayed and launching with outdated specs I can’t justify it.
I can understand that, especially if you are looking for 13th or 14th gen Intel. Perhaps the G2 will have you covered.
@@LaptopRetrospective Is G2 out yet, or any news of its release?
No news on a G2 yet.
Nice laptop I like the big foldout looks like reading newspaper
It is a pretty great experience, it can be a work horse but also be chill.
I need to rob 2 banks now instead of 1 to buy a top line PC
Theft might be the best plan even if the most direct. 😂
laptop prospective
but seriously this is SERIOUSLY underpowered if your cinebench R23 scores are correct... I suspect you're in the low power mode or lenovo is totally throttling performance
the way that the screen glitches out when you take off the keyboard is also not confidence inspiring
it's still a beta product and you're paying to be the tester... no thanks
Unfortunately I don't have the unit anymore to retest to confirm the power mode at the time. It is passively cooled if I remember right from the HMM so it was never going to be a performance machine. I ran the tests mainly because I knew somebody would ask. As for the screen "glitching" as you describe it, not exactly sure what you mean but Windows does need to refresh the aspect ratio and display area. The only other thing I'll mention is this was a pre-production model, I have not seen a production model in person.
@@LaptopRetrospective passive cooling on an i7... what will lenovo think of next? Seriously, they should just have slapped an i3 in there. You were seeing 600something in single core performance whereas for the "real" i7-12th gen P CPU you get 1850 single core, and even the i5-12th gen U CPU you get 1750 single core.
The whole device seems like a joke - especially it's pricing
@@iamdmcI mean, the i5-i7 are literally identical for u-series ADL, you can get this with an i5-1230u for way less.
have they given a spec on the number of rated screen folds i.e opening and closing? These folding screens are going to need quite a number more years of development before they are actually robust. Generally with a new tech like this its very sensible to skip the first couple of generations.
Valid question. If I find an answer, I will let you know.
@@LaptopRetrospective ty