What Happened to the Old Norwegian Flag?

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  • Norway is one of Scandinavian countries alongside Denmark, Sweden and Finland and like these countries has a flag featuring a Nordic cross. In today's video let's look at the history of the Norwegian flag and what happened to the old Norwegian flag.
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  • @MesiterSode
    @MesiterSode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +554

    A little fun fact: The Norwegian coat of arms is still the golden crowned lion, holding an axe, on a red background.

    • @marvelfannumber1
      @marvelfannumber1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      It's the royal standard too. It flies over the royal palace whenever the King or Crown Prince is in the country

    • @richardmorgan9273
      @richardmorgan9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Royal standards were much more widely used in the past - for the army, for example (which normally represents and swears allegiance to the monarch). The French fleur-de-lys flag is better known than the old national flag (white cross on a blue background).

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fun fact 2, the flag most often used throughout history by the Norwegian military has been completely white.

    • @viklore8091
      @viklore8091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤡

    • @Magst3r1
      @Magst3r1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SofaKingShit lol

  • @marvelfannumber1
    @marvelfannumber1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +287

    We still use the old flag. Not only does it heavily feature in the coat of arms, it's also the current royal standard.

    • @vekteren3549
      @vekteren3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kult

    • @esa6321
      @esa6321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah but not alot lol, its not like you go on a stroll and see it everywhere like you do with the current Norwegian flag

    • @Softiesplushies
      @Softiesplushies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@esa6321 but you can still see it. Various places will still use it. Just because its not all over the place doesn’t mean its not still used

    • @Martinstokkan
      @Martinstokkan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Softiesplushies not what he said tho

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E‎‎

  • @BananaP_uwu
    @BananaP_uwu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    As a norwegian, your danish was more comprehensive to me than a dane speaking danish

  • @Olav.
    @Olav. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Kings in Norway started using the yellow lions with red background in the 1100s, but lions were quite popular heraldic symbols across Europe. So to make it more unique , the King of Norway gave the lion a crown, and a silver axe which represents the axe of King Olav Haraldsson, that he had when he died at the battle of Stiklestad. King Olav was refered to as the eternal King of Norway, having Olavs axe would give more legitimacy to the current Kings, as it was a sign that they were rightful heir of Olav, the eternal king of Norway. The lion was flown on ships, and castles, but were phased out in the 1600-1700s, but still used on regiment banners. Now it serves as the coat of arms of Norway, and is one of the oldest coat of arms in use. Its also flown over the Kings caslte, and the police along with many government units are using it.

    • @michaelmayo3127
      @michaelmayo3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Haraldsson" This is a Swedish spelling. Haraldssen is the Norwegian spelling.

    • @TheMaginor
      @TheMaginor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@michaelmayo3127 No, Haraldsson is the historical Norwegian spelling (son being norse for ... son). Haraldsen (no double s usually) is a modern spelling, and is not used about Olav II.

    • @TheThunder367
      @TheThunder367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not just many government units, all «statlig», that is entities of the Norwegian national government use the «Riksvåpen» or national coat of arms. This includes welfare administration, universities and basically everything not belonging to local (kommune/fylke) government. Attaching it to a non-government building or vehicle is actually a crime. There are examples of high schoolers being fined for painting it on busses. That is quite funny since the «riksvåpen» enjoys more legal protection than the actual flag of Norway.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E‎‎

    • @michaelmayo3127
      @michaelmayo3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMaginor Prove that sen isn't Norse for son!! Haraldsson was probably a Swedish Viking.

  • @TheBarser
    @TheBarser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    "When Denmark backed the wrong side of the napoleon wars" Well its kinda hard staying neutral when one side shows up and firebomb your capital in order to steal there navy. Still Denmark got punished by this action, and Norway was handed over as a price to Sweden.

    • @AH-pf5mq
      @AH-pf5mq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tbf they could have sent a polite eMail saying Nuts

    • @oblivionnokk3531
      @oblivionnokk3531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Handed over ye, but we refused and made our own grunnlov before the sweeds got greedy

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A little more complex, Sweden was promised Norway as a prize, Denmark-Norway wasn't exactly in a position to officially refuse outright. Norwegian leaders went in with the attitude of not wanting to change the union at the time, but if it HAD to be split, they wanted to be fully independent, (and then install the danish crown prince as the new constitutional monarch), Sweden said no, invaded, and after a brief war Norway had to surrender.

    • @oblivionnokk3531
      @oblivionnokk3531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vrenak It was not really a surrender, it was a agreement to end the bloodshed and go with union instead of making Norway a part of Sweeden. This is why we kept our flag with a small union twist and sweeden did the same. And due to this, Norway got its blue cross in the center of our flag instead of using what is now our riksflag, with the lion and the axe and crown on a red background. But there were some time between the break of Norway - Denmark and Sweeden - Norway, the time we wrote our constitution, not long, but it was a breather. I am sure if the fight kept on after 2 weeks, many more would have died on both sides, as the defence came as unexpected.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E‎‎

  • @TheKingDain
    @TheKingDain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    A Dutchman should not mock the speech patterns of a Dane. Let me remind you we are both connoisseurs of the throat.
    Anyway.
    Awesome video as always, Chadbert.

    • @einarbolstad8150
      @einarbolstad8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "Connoisseurs of the throat", that's very good!

    • @schutsheer_des_vaderlands
      @schutsheer_des_vaderlands 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, if we're talking about who has the biggest throat disease, I'm afraid you Danes still have that honour..

    • @EmilReiko
      @EmilReiko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@schutsheer_des_vaderlands have you heard how you guys pronounce G ???

    • @vladimirvladimirovvladimir1560
      @vladimirvladimirovvladimir1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EmilReiko They do so too in Spanish, it's actually very elegant and attractive! However, you Danes tend to not even pronounce half of the letters and just swallow them all. Rødgrøttmedflødepååæ

    • @EmilReiko
      @EmilReiko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vladimirvladimirovvladimir1560 no it sounds like the reaction someone gets when they accidental swallow a fly while bicycling

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Never miss an opportunity to insert Het Wilhelmus.

    • @TheRealKingLeopoldII
      @TheRealKingLeopoldII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      La Brabançonne is better 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

    • @Studios10
      @Studios10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRealKingLeopoldII Says a fanboy of the world's bloodiest King, who caused the death and mutilation of 15 million Africans.

    • @TheRealKingLeopoldII
      @TheRealKingLeopoldII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Studios10 thanks for the compliment

    • @kristena9285
      @kristena9285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Het Wilhelmus is a beautiful anthem but the picture he uses is the wrong William of Orange..

  • @ShadowTheParrot
    @ShadowTheParrot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    They were quite leanient because the Swedish people was surprised of the amount of resistance Norway were able to give in just 2 weeks, and would rather have peace talks instead of a bloody war. Making it so we were allowed a big amount of autonomus power. We had a writen our own constitution in 1814, it is known as the most radical, liberal, and democratic constitutions during that time. Which was the laws we used in Norway, we got our own Parliment, with Swedens king as our king of Norway. Generaly speaking, we were our own independant nation already in 1814. But our union with Sweden broke off in 1905. And could be seen as our real freedom, but it all started back in 1814.

    • @toringepedersen9614
      @toringepedersen9614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It did'nt hurt that the Swedish king was a Bernadotte, of french origin, from the Napoleonic and revolutionary age, making him rather more liberal than many of his counterparts at the time. If I remember correctly, he did regret some of his more liberal concessions later on.

    • @simonlangeng9738
      @simonlangeng9738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toringepedersen9614 the 1800's seem to be a time of lots of monarch's regrets, the more liberal once giving away a great deal of theyr power, and the more autocratic for having to deal harshly with revolts and independents movements to the point that theyr getting overtrown.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E‎

    • @ShadowTheParrot
      @ShadowTheParrot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EEEEEEEE E (Translation of what I said) "You make a very compeling argument."

    • @TheAccidentalViking
      @TheAccidentalViking 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except for the part they had to change about 'No Jews Allowed'. Embarrassing.

  • @emperorkarlfranzrulerofthe2826
    @emperorkarlfranzrulerofthe2826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    the sweedish empire was dead and gone then. Norway was given as a "price" to sweeden for taking the british side in the napoleonic wars. Norway tried to get a danish prince to be the king of independent norway, but they got no support in europe, and sweeden invaded. The fighting lasted 2 weeks, then sweeden gave norway some freedom for joining the union. They where never a part of the sweedish empire, just a union with sweeden

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You are correct. At that time, I do not think anyone Saw Sweden as an empire. And Sweden did try to present this as a Union. Not a takeover. Of course, Sweden was very much the senior partner that called the shots. But is not as extreme as when Sweden really had ambitious of being one of the greater powers of Europe.
      Anyway, the reason I actually replied was because I like to know why you spelled Sweden Sweeden? With two Es.

    • @MrFredrikWolf
      @MrFredrikWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you mean Sweeeeeeeeeeeden?

    • @Kennyov93
      @Kennyov93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cythil How does it sounds like if you spell it sounding like only one e? How does it compare to most other people saying 'Sweden'?

    • @ytusersumone
      @ytusersumone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kennyov93 Written -Inglish- English is a very irrational funny thing!

  • @Benjaminimal
    @Benjaminimal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Great video once again, Hilbert! I certainly don't mean to be rude here - the quote at 3:10 is really important, but your pronunciation is VERY strange hahah. Then again, I enjoyed the butchering:-)
    Also, on the question of Danish being the language of the elites - it's technically kinda correct, but it's a very simplified answer. The written language was of course heavily based on Danish, although in the 1800s it would always be described as Norwegian, which can seem puzzling at first. Way later, linguists and historians came up with the term "Dano-Norwegian Koiné" which fits the bill more accurately.
    Dano-Norwegian (spoken in Norway) always had a lot of unique vocabulary, while the Norwegian upper classes also continued to speak in their own distinct and purely Norwegian sociolects. They wouldn't sound like Danes at all. Basically, Danes and Norwegians never stopped speaking two different languages, but they were communicating using what was essentially the same rules and syntax.
    Later, when this Dano-Norwegian Koiné morphed into Riksmål, the two languages separated further, as Riksmål began to incorporate even more native Norwegian vocabulary and underwent spelling reforms. The end result was Bokmål, and a de facto standard variety, based on bourgeois sociolects around the Oslofjord.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hilbert was in a hurry and excited to play "Willhemus" which I appreciated. So II understand his mispronouncation. Besides the Norge and Swedes say Danish cannot be understood by anyone but Danes.

  • @alansmithee8831
    @alansmithee8831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Hello Hilbert. I loved knowing about flags as a kid and I find these videos really enjoyable.
    I used to imagine the red white and blue on this one were chosen as you said, so it is sort of satisfying after so long to have that confirmed.

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's a bit more symbolism involved, but yes, that's true. :-)

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E‎‎

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As white as the white in the snow, red as the evening sun, and as blue ad the glaciers.
      Among other symbolisms.
      And of course it's also the colours of freedom from the French revolution.
      And so one and so forth...

  • @perrdland7903
    @perrdland7903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Apparently your knowledge stretch to clear limitations when it comes to the country of Norway. First of all, there is an amazing story behind the "first flag". The ax is in the flag is referring to king St. Olaf, who is the Rex Perpetuus Norvegiae (the Eternal King of Norway) who every king of Norway since has been reigning on behalf of. Secondly, I understand you only spend three minutes on your vids, but Norway was never forced into any union with Denmark and at the time of entering the Kalmar union was the stronger of the two countries. Thirdly, the Swedish empire was long gone at the time of Norway entering a personal union with Sweden. Norway was never a part of a Swedish empire being "allowed to have some autonomy". In fact, Norway was a parliamentary and military separate country only sharing the king and the ministry of foreign affairs with Sweden. Bad job, Dutchman. And please have some respect for the history and the Coat of arms of Norway.

  • @grandcommander1140
    @grandcommander1140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The Swedish Empire lasted from about 1521-1720 (Swedish: Stormaktstiden) and the swedish soldiers you showed are a 100 years out dated by 1813/1814.

  • @MikCph
    @MikCph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The text at 3:04 is not Danish because the nobility spoke Danish, but because Danish was the written language in Norway up until 1917. Big Norwegian authors as Ibsen wrote in Danish. Although some words that are different I Danish and Norwegian (like “slik”) was written as if they were Danish…

    • @Wolf-hh4rv
      @Wolf-hh4rv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Danish friend and Norwegian friend… they told me they speak the same language with different accents.

    • @MikCph
      @MikCph 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wolf-hh4rv I have forgotten his name, but I once heard a linguist quoted for saying that a language is a dialect with own navy… There are Danish dialects differing more from standard Danish than Norwegian (at least the dialects using bokmål) and Swedish does…

    • @justarandomguy3969
      @justarandomguy3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Wolf-hh4rv wtf, no one even comes close to speaking danish in norway. they are totally different, on paper they are very similiar but spoken the words are different and the pronounciation is totally different

    • @itsyourboiiemil5450
      @itsyourboiiemil5450 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wolf-hh4rv pretty much, both can understand each other well and the written language is near identical bar a few small differences

    • @CountRichard
      @CountRichard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justarandomguy3969 You forget that people in part of the Southland (Sørlandet) are quite literally called "spare danes" due to their use of soft consonants. Likewise I have heard danes say that people from there speak Danish as it's meant to be spoken. A bit of tongue in cheek with both of those of course, but still. I should know, I live there.
      The point though is that there are accents in the three Scandinavian languages that differ more from their respective languages than the actual languages.

  • @historywithhilbert146
    @historywithhilbert146  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Guess where I moved.

  • @michaelmayo3127
    @michaelmayo3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Norwegian flag was designed in 1821. It is based on the Danish Dannebrog, from when Norway was in union with the Danish kingdom from 1397 until 1814. The flag has a blue cross which symbolizes the union between Norway and Sweden in 1814-1905. I think you will find the Lion rampant is a royal symbol and not a national symbol.

    • @michaelmayo3127
      @michaelmayo3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hrsmp No but,there is now!! Whereas now; there's very little aristocracy in Scandinavia.

  • @ulfhedin8728
    @ulfhedin8728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Except for the "Americanerne-ne-ne" I thought your Danish pronunciation was really good.
    But the guy who wrote that probably spoke Dano-Norwegian or what used to be called "cultivated everyday speech" which was the language of the elites. On paper it's similar to Danish but with more Norwegian words and grammar, and it's spoken with a Norwegian accent similar to the local dialect of the speaker.

  • @memegodazkaban1358
    @memegodazkaban1358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a norwegian i must say Finland isnt part of Scandinavia, Scandinavias is only Norway, Denmark and sweden, but the nordic unions are the scandinavian nations + finland and iceland

    • @noregr1173
      @noregr1173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seeing how we treated the Finno-Ugrics like Sami, Kvener and Finns, their allowed to be called Scandi's

    • @JL.T.
      @JL.T. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The term you/we are looking for is Fennoskandia.

    • @lalli8152
      @lalli8152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. I think most at least here in Finland use scandinavia pretty much as geographical term, and Finland isnt in scandinavia, but i think the most northern part of Finland technically is. Also obviously people use scandinavian as ethnic group, but even then its more like people with strong ancestry from the three scandinavian countries so Icelandic people for example can be called scandinavian people i feel. Here in Finland even though obviously there is some scandinavian ancestry mainly i think the minority group like fennoswedes are actually scandinavian, but in general we likely both ethnicly, and linguistically see people like Estonians more as our relatives. Finns also tend to be kinda nationalistic, and i guess especially lumping us with swedes with only basis been they used to rule us is not very popular its kinda like saying Finland is part of Russia because back in the day it was.

    • @memegodazkaban1358
      @memegodazkaban1358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lalli8152 well I believe Norway is the most nationalistic nations in Scandinavia or out of the 3 considering the time under both Denmark and the sweds

    • @oh2mp
      @oh2mp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Technically only very northwestern part of Finland is in the Scandinavian peninsula and the rest of our country isn't.

  • @wellthatagedwell2716
    @wellthatagedwell2716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a Norwegian I approve of this video

  • @merlijnfolkerts3066
    @merlijnfolkerts3066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like that you had Edvard Grieg's music in the beginning

  • @papaquonis
    @papaquonis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I would love a video on Danmarks flag.

    • @AScareDK
      @AScareDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, here is the short version: "Dannebrog" - the red flag with white cross - fell from the sky somewhere in Estonia in 1219, and has been used basically unchanged as the danish flag ever since. Ok, I'm sure Hilbert can ad a bit more to the story 🙂

    • @EmilReiko
      @EmilReiko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AScareDK but anyways it wasent really a flag for the contry before 1500 something... before it was just "kongens mærke" in the field

    • @EmilReiko
      @EmilReiko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and supposedly during the medieval times - it was the original flag (that was (probably; contrary to mythology, taken from some german crusading knights)) that followed the king, or atleast the kings army when the king werent present, in the field... it was lost in 1500 when the Danish army got wiped out at the battle of Hemmingstedt by some angry peasants in a swamp

    • @AScareDK
      @AScareDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EmilReiko True 👍

  • @thunderborn978
    @thunderborn978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm danish and I couldn't help but laugh a little hearing you speaking some old danish at 3:04
    You did a good job reading it was just a little funny because I had no idea that would happen

  • @esleyhamilton4056
    @esleyhamilton4056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to have you back.

  • @michaelmayo3127
    @michaelmayo3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should research more; your dates are all over the place. Norway and Denmark have been one since 1397 and up-until 1814 when Norway was ceded to Sweden after the Napoleonic wars. Only small variation divide written Norwegian and Danish.

  • @SofaKingShit
    @SofaKingShit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a Norwegian l think that having an animal which possessed no opposable digits yet that particular example was still somehow able to wield an axe, and then using that peculiar beast as a symbol for a sub-arctic land that never had such creatures in the first place was a perfect choice.

  • @amaccama3267
    @amaccama3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    How about every country with a Union Jack on its flag. Love your work by the way.

    • @LuKing2
      @LuKing2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are only 4 countries that still have a Union Jack on their flags (Fiji, Tuvalu, New Zealand and Australia), but there are still a lot of territories and dependencies of the UK that feature a Union Jack as well as some of the states of Canada and Australia (and of course Hawaii)

  • @mijanhoque1740
    @mijanhoque1740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @0:40 So the Targaryens, Starks and Aryns were Vikings that’s awesome

  • @paradox_1729
    @paradox_1729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There is a simpler reason: they discovered at long last that lions cant hold an axe.

  • @williamsamny3319
    @williamsamny3319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! A small correction: in the 19th century the elites didn't speak danish, but rather a very danish-influenced norwegian we call riksmål. They wrote danish, but pronounced the words differently. Nationalistic forces wanted to change this, by creating a more proper norwegian form of writing called nynorsk.
    Bokmål, the written language used by 85 % of the population is a compromise between riksmål and nynorsk. The last 15 % are still using nynorsk.

  • @sesmonkisjonon8843
    @sesmonkisjonon8843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this better be good

  • @Captain-Axeman
    @Captain-Axeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A bit of incorrect information.
    1. Sweden didn't conquer Norway, they did invade but only got too Glomma (Norwegian river) in the south and Trøndelag was being invaded. But after some diplomacy both sides agreed to a compromise, Norway would make King Karl Johan the king of Norway, in return Norway was allowed to keep their constitution with some modification which would make it union compatible.
    2. The Swedish Empire didn't exist anymore, The Swedish empire hadn't been a thing since 1721 after King Carl 12th of Sweden died at Fredriksten Fortress in 1718 which resulted in a some poltical chaos at home, addionally Sweden had to ceade the Baltic lands they had to Russia.
    The flag thing are correct from what information I have.

  • @BlueRock68
    @BlueRock68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun with flags, Sheldon would be proud of your video

  • @Aliquis.frigus
    @Aliquis.frigus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Norwegians flooding the comments in 3...2...1..

  • @teenagemutantammnite8944
    @teenagemutantammnite8944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d love to see a Danish flag video, or more interestingly, a Finland flag video, they’ve got quite an interesting one.

  • @Akula114
    @Akula114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Flags. More flags... great work!

  • @JoyMin-pe5ff
    @JoyMin-pe5ff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good attempt to mock the danish, love to hear it as an norwegian lol

  • @iceballanimation9549
    @iceballanimation9549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do What Happened to the Old Icelandic Flag? with the flag of Icelandic commonwealth?

  • @einherjer932
    @einherjer932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is speculation that there might be an even older depiction of the norwegian coat of arms/old flag. Carved into a wooden capital in Urnes Stavkirke (Norway's oldes stave church) is a relief of a lion holding a axe. The carving is called Urnesløven (the Urnes Lion) and is believed to be from around 1130, thus thoreticaly making it the oldes depiction. It now serves as the logo for the Fortidsminneforreningen (Society for the Preservation of Ancient Norwegian Monuments)

  • @lorenzonotarianni1667
    @lorenzonotarianni1667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The coat of Arms of my town in Italy, Frosinone, is a rampant lion on a blue background.
    I took my moment of glory to make known to the world the name of my home town.

  • @Jobe-13
    @Jobe-13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did not think it involved so many changes.

  • @themetricsystem7967
    @themetricsystem7967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A stand up comedian about the Norwegian national coat of arms: a lion with a particularly strong interest in forestry

  • @vanomaden
    @vanomaden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you wrote: "Norway is one of Scandinavian countries alongside Denmark, Sweden and Finland" Finland is not part of Scandinavia as far as I know ....

  • @Bjornarp
    @Bjornarp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you may have butchered the danish language. but as a norwegian i found it easier to understand what you said than i usually do with danes. Good job! you improved it 😛

  • @DraslyThe1
    @DraslyThe1 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Norwegian I just have to tell you that the Norwegian flag with the golden lion aka (Royal standar of Norway/The coat of arms of Norway) are still present and still used by the royal king Kong Harald the 5th

  • @christianroen3690
    @christianroen3690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job, informative! Greatings, from Norway

  • @keithwolfe1942
    @keithwolfe1942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Norway's current flag is one of the most beautiful national flags.

    • @fastertove
      @fastertove 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gets even prettier when the blue is painted white :)

  • @nian60
    @nian60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The old Norwegian flag resembles several Swedish landskaps symbols, such as Halland, Småland, Västergötland, and Bohuslän (partially). So it's a popular design in Scandinavia.

    • @burebor9940
      @burebor9940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Båhuslen (as well as Jemtland, Herjedalen, Idre & Serna) is still parts of Norway that Sweden rule. Might be why Båhuslen and Norway's lions are similar

    • @nian60
      @nian60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burebor9940 Maybe. Småland has never been Norwegian though, AFAIK. So the influence is wider than that.

    • @burebor9940
      @burebor9940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nian60 Yes, that is true

    • @Olav.
      @Olav. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burebor9940 Idre and Særna were such irrelevant places that the Norwegians forgot about its existence

    • @burebor9940
      @burebor9940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Olav. Nah, mate. Not forgoten, they are loved just as much as everyone else :)

  • @TrueScandinavian
    @TrueScandinavian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The lion with ax and crown is the flag of the King of Norway

  • @Macovic
    @Macovic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apparently the famous ex. Napoleon General named Bernadotte, switched side when offered being king of Sweden. Sweden wanted him to win back Finland. But he was not interested in so, at the time, instead wanted to win over Norway to secure more coast towards the Atlantic

  • @rubenhavik4026
    @rubenhavik4026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the flag with the crowned lion holding an axe on a red background is actually still in use as the royal standard of Norway

  • @nellus4993
    @nellus4993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to see a vid on the Belarusian flag ⚪🔴⚪

  • @tobbenhamre2046
    @tobbenhamre2046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Norway got taken by Denmark after the black Death and after the napoleonic war Denmark gave Norway to Sweden

  • @daddyleon
    @daddyleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:47 hahaha hilariously selfaware about the design

  • @attemptedunkindness3632
    @attemptedunkindness3632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fun fact: It's difficult to maintain peaceful diplomatic relations with a nation whose flag is a screaming apex predator wielding a axe in a field of blood.

  • @jamessteel1719
    @jamessteel1719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting - not sure what the music adds beyond making it harder to hear the voiceover?

  • @kebman
    @kebman ปีที่แล้ว

    The Canton was known as the Sildesalaten. The Herring Salad. It wasn't very popular with either side.

  • @BigJakkaZProductio
    @BigJakkaZProductio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see the history of the icelandic flag

  • @perperald21
    @perperald21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, the Swedish Parliament has nothing to do the Rene Flagg, it was the Norwegian Parliament that ruled that the pure flag should be used.
    Fun fact: Norway abolished nobility in 1821, and had a normal democracy in electing their Parliament since 1814, while the Swedes continued with their House of Lords until 1866

  • @GustavSvard
    @GustavSvard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video gave me an alternate history Scandinavian flag idea:
    If Sweden had managed to go for a Danish prince instead of the French field marshall, and the prince had lived but the other Danish princes had not - thus forming a union of all the three kingdoms, could we then have seen the three flags get the Sillsallad made of the other two kingdom's flags? i.e. the Dannebrog with a Norwegian & Swedish sillsallad, the Swedish flag with a Danish & Norwegian sillsallad, and the Norwegian flag with a Danish & Swedish sillsallad?

  • @Raleyg
    @Raleyg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the flag contest was announced, there were a few guidelines issued. These included that the flag should use the national colors red and white, and five gold stars representing the country's five bishoprics. This resulted in a some really interesting flags, some of which followed the guidelines, while others didn't. The five stars were eventually dropped because it meant that if Norway got more bishoprics it would have to add more flags as well, which everyone agreed was really stupid

  • @Lockfly
    @Lockfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a video on the swedish three Crown flag

  • @mangoisdelicious9078
    @mangoisdelicious9078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:55 in the background, that is the flag of botswana!!!!
    :DDDDD

  • @ivarbrouwer197
    @ivarbrouwer197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was in Orkney last week, they have a Norwegian flag, but the white is yellow... So, how does that work, Orkney being part of Scotland and then also defacto the UK

    • @willek1335
      @willek1335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's a wiki page of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Nidaros, with a map. It started from the viking period, and continued over, even when the Scandinavia overseas dominion had ceased. The last letter I've seen (not not limited to) was from the 16th century, and can be found in the Diplomatarium Norvegicum archive. Apparently, it was a case of inheritance among these islanders, wishing the Bishop of Trondheim, to either resolve a dispute or affirm the state of affair. Boring legal stuff of no importance to us, but I think it was interesting that these "Scottish" Orcadians sought council from their ancient religious liege lords to the north and across the sea.

    • @starvictory7079
      @starvictory7079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was Viking land.
      It's not a secret.
      Just learn.

    • @ivarbrouwer197
      @ivarbrouwer197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starvictory7079 it's not that straight forward, especially since the Norse flag is apparently a later development, way after the Viking era and thus the history of the Orkney flag could have been with the original flag, or totally separate from the Swedish and Norse flag, since that didn't reference Orkney at all. And I know I can look it up, but since this fits the subject of the video it seems opportune to ask it here.

  • @joonaaskr
    @joonaaskr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most beautiful flag in the whole world, belonging to the greatest country in the whole world🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴

    • @ganjafi59
      @ganjafi59 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Helt riktig min bror

  • @ericcowles6518
    @ericcowles6518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the name of the painting of the burial at sea? I think I saw it in Oslo, though it's been 30+ years since I've been to Norway.

  • @konnii1
    @konnii1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You also have the mix between the flag of the Icelandic commonwealth mixed with the flag of 1250-80 so half blue stripes and white background and yellow upper top background with red lion and axe during 13th century. After being conquered by Norway

  • @Softiesplushies
    @Softiesplushies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ummm Various parts of Norway still use the original flag. Its still used by the royals in Norway.

  • @Macovic
    @Macovic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Sill sallad.

  • @lucass.l.jacobsen2088
    @lucass.l.jacobsen2088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your Danish, actually very good for a person who speaks no Danish at all

  • @DJPJ.
    @DJPJ. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Disappointing quality. Said nothing about the lion flag's use today, and minimally about its origins. The ax on the flag should be Saint Olav's, and the flag is still used as the royal flag. The video title asks what happened with the old one, so do that.

  • @TheAurgelmir
    @TheAurgelmir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lion on the red banner is the Royal Flag, not really the Norwegian flag, and I don't think it was ever considered as such. Back in Medieval times such banners were personal house banners, which sometimes would represent the nation.
    It's still in use today, and is flown on the royal palace. (Until 2003 it was only flown if the King was at the Palace, but now it's flown to signify that the King is in the country.)
    The lion is also part of the Norwegian Coat of Arms, which is used by many national institutions, such as the Police and the Armed Forces.

  • @Orbixas
    @Orbixas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is Hilbert from? That Danish was surprisingly understandable!

    • @snowsoldier7779
      @snowsoldier7779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is Dutch.

    • @Orbixas
      @Orbixas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snowsoldier7779 So no stranger to weird sounding languages then

  • @iksRoald
    @iksRoald 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The standing lon with the axe is our state insignia, to be found on our embasies and all our official things all over. I did a school project of the history of the flag back in 1961, and remeber that the lion was firtst introduced offially according to the sources Inthen had acces to, by king Magnus Håkonson, that would ha ve been around 1200 I think. This in not my field of knowledge, but as a Norwegian I find it nice to see your presentation of our flag. Btw, just recently our parliament de ided to standardize the red to be like the Danish and the blue to be like the French.

  • @kebman
    @kebman ปีที่แล้ว

    Say did you make a video on the epic march of the Karolinerna? I'm just asking bcos Pewdiepie got upset that we Norwegians shot his king xD The Karolinerna are still pretty EPIC soldiers tho! Dom är fet som fan!

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was going to once again ask for a video about the Belarusian flag(s) but I'm starting to suspect you are holding off in anticipation that it might officially change soon.

  • @asatorulfhednar9626
    @asatorulfhednar9626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lion flag is still in use on the roof at the kings castle in Oslo.

  • @Splatoni
    @Splatoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, can someone tell me whats that picture/painting in 4:39, seems interesting, i want to know the name :)

    • @hamburg6015
      @hamburg6015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carl Fredrik Sundt-Hansen, En begravelse ombord

    • @Splatoni
      @Splatoni ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hamburg6015 thank you :)

  • @henkmeerhof8647
    @henkmeerhof8647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2:07 the Danish flag is called Danebrog, not the Norwegian

  • @Asor27
    @Asor27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun fact about the flag that we norwegians youse know: it was first drawn by a kid and thet the flag-designer made it the flag

  • @Anirossa
    @Anirossa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still the flag/emblem of my state Vestfold, so I still got both flags you could say

  • @nils-christiannilsen7115
    @nils-christiannilsen7115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flag with the lion is still in use in Norway its the Norwegian royal flag and is illegal for other then the king to use.

  • @dstinnettmusic
    @dstinnettmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “A gold lion on a red background”
    You buried the lead. Why is the lion holding an axe?

  • @dynamo8846
    @dynamo8846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh I prefer both the norweigan flag with the canton and the swedish one with canton. That extra little pizazz adds so much. Also bring back the dark blue version. That im swedish has nothing to do with it I swear

  • @JOSyKo
    @JOSyKo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say, you absolutely didn't butcher the Danish language. Your language skills are pretty damned good. Cheers.

  • @Alex-yz6uq
    @Alex-yz6uq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A bit misleading. Sweden was not an empire while invading Norway, nor did they use caroleans as potrayed in the video.

  • @siebensunden
    @siebensunden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ineresting how many European countries use lion in their heraldry for example Finland or Czech Republic to name just few.

  • @mew2knight337
    @mew2knight337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why there's fremch music at the begining of the video?

  • @_loss_
    @_loss_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love a video on the flag of Finland.

  • @chensuen3973
    @chensuen3973 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff, only one peace is missing.

  • @ludvigbsalomonsen5955
    @ludvigbsalomonsen5955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Denmark's flag would be an interesting topic to hear about

  • @aleksanderhiller7506
    @aleksanderhiller7506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The lion is still on Norway's Coat of Arms.
    Only state institutions can use it, so we don't see it very often.

  • @perperald21
    @perperald21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The flags are not symbols, not are the charges (the things depicted on the flag) symbols either.
    They are marks, devices and such, meant only to be different from other flags (something with a rather mixed success).
    Lions and eagles where held at most Royal courts, together with bears.
    The European lion became extinct in the 800s.
    It was an impressing animal , likewise in size to the lions one can find in India today.

  • @matfhju
    @matfhju ปีที่แล้ว

    The old flag with the golden lion crown and axe is still used as the royal standard

  • @mortarboss
    @mortarboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, but the lion is modern. The old one with the halberd is the one used up until mid 1800s, after which it went through a few changes up until the one you presented. With an axe. Norwegian here, and I do 1700s reenactment.

    • @Olav.
      @Olav. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, the axe was from medieval times, and later changed to a Halberd because an axe wasnt fancy enough for the Danish Kings coat of arms

    • @mortarboss
      @mortarboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Olav. My period is the 1700s and up, so I'm not familiar with the previous versions. So I'm sure that's correct. However, for those not familiar with the current version, it's the one at the start of the video, with the axe. I don't know the reason for getting rid of the halberd.

    • @Olav.
      @Olav. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mortarboss Probably something to do with the rise of Norwegian nationalism during the national romanitc era. They probably wanted the axe back as it was probably seen as more original, and Norwegian.

  • @playreal2623
    @playreal2623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    u had kind off wrong why norway was allowed to have its own flag as it stood it would be a drawn out war against sweden on the norwegian part where the swedish king knew it would be hard to strike a fast victory so he sent a deal where norway would be in a union and not a direct part off sweden

  • @LøvæFråNordn
    @LøvæFråNordn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bio is wrong, Finland is not Scandinavian but a nordic country

  • @enigmagrieshaber5555
    @enigmagrieshaber5555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's just because everyone in Scandinavia loves cross flag
    Tbh I love seeing Norwegian swedish union

  • @Orbixas
    @Orbixas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh. I actually wondered about this today.

  • @annebritraaen2237
    @annebritraaen2237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad Norway chose to skip the lion. My school-days would've been darkened if I had to draw that beast.

  • @wellthatagedwell2716
    @wellthatagedwell2716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also a fun fact: Before Norway Became a sweedish province there was a brief few days of independence with the danish Crown prince as a king which he was for 3 whole seconds before Norway went to war with sweeden, which was a disaster for Norway. Another fun fact about this war was that they became friends with each other the sweedes and the Norwegian/Danish soldiers and had picnics together when they weren’t firing on each other, and decided that they should shoot in the air rather than on each other. There was also a discussion on wether Norway was to become a british colony because some merchants had good trade relations with britain. But as we know that didn’t happen

    • @SigmundOrthodoxy
      @SigmundOrthodoxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Norway didnt become a swedish province, it became a junior partner in the union, also, sweden went to war with norway, not norway going to war with sweden.

    • @SigmundOrthodoxy
      @SigmundOrthodoxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Theres a difference between being a junior partner and being completely annexed, norway was a junior partner, and after some time, began to gain more and more power, they then decided to declare independence, war was supposed to be declared, but the swedish public opposed an invasion, so sweden didnt invade.

    • @Luredreier
      @Luredreier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SigmundOrthodoxy Exactly, thank you.

    • @bennyklabarpan7002
      @bennyklabarpan7002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SigmundOrthodoxy Technically Norway was de jure Swedish with the Treaty of Kiel. So It was a war started by Norway as a rebellion

    • @SigmundOrthodoxy
      @SigmundOrthodoxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bennyklabarpan7002 norway rebelled, yes, but the swedes still didnt annex.