@@qizeaqfile this argument again omg. it's fantasy yes, but why are they using everything from their culture but the people's color? that's REALLY STRANGE
@@qizeaqfileTrue, I belive those people are just way too obsessed with complaining. Like, from the post that I've seen, a lot of them doesn't play the game have a lot of time and are complaining about it.
@Alka_editsyeah they’ll make fun of cultural dancing and singing and details but care about skin color. And they do have Chinese beauty standards which is like the whiter the prettier or something (I don’t know much)
My friend and I watched the trailer together and we’re both pissed when we saw there was no effort put toward making the new characters darker but then they have dark skinned enemies chasing after them >:[
This whole thing just goes like: Light skin tones = foreigners saying that it’s racist Dark skin tones = Chinese player base complaining This is honestly tough for mihoyo to deal with this Edit: I feel like majority of the playerbase is chill, it’s just those random ahh people that loves to complain and create controversy, and the worse part is that they get a lot of exposure cause the rest that are fine with it barely spam posts about it
yeah this is just a sticky spot for hoyo. they obviously want money, but no matter what, with this conflicting fan base, people will be angry. i think they went the lightskin route because of how extreme the cn fan base is
Another one I've seen is "go f2p" as is most of ya'll weren't doing that already. At the end of the day, the people that complain about it will still go back to playing the game. So how is that gonna make Mihoyo change anything??? They still have their whales and their casuals. They have their income source, so why do they have to change??
@@Vividaeciq-dl9rfthose tweets were directed towards low spenders and whales. We tryna get them to stop spending as well so the income is cut. Alot of giveaway hosts are already stopping doing so and they spend A LOT
@CarrotSpunk. Oh, you mean when there was footage of them using a Native American dance as reference for the hilichurls despite them being inspired from Norse mythology but they use Native American now that they're savages? Yeah as a registered tribe member, I wasn't very happy about that
It hits a bit harder when you see that NPCs, especially enemies, have a larger range of diversity. In Sumeru we have varying skin tones AND hair styles that include locs and cornrows. But they’re all aggressive brutes minus a few “good ones” (Cyno, the one girl at the academia who’s name I can’t remember, Candace, and Dehya) that have to go above and beyond to prove it
@@punkbunnymama Hilichurls turned to black doesnt meant they represent ppl from black culture. Caribert. that quest literally did show he was light skinned when he was human, Heck his DAD too was light skinned. How deep do you wanna reach to paint the "racism" accusation? whats next?
i agree. It's so disappointing to see people of my skin tone and darker only being brutes and enemies to attack and defeat. Not allies or even main characters to be "the good guys"
Im literally Mexican and my mom is from Mexico and i showed her the Natlan's trailer and she said she was glad to see that they are inspired by the culture of where our family comes from I don't understand the skin color thing considering im Mexican and my dad and mom families come from both mayan and Aztec descent and we aren't that dark like my skin color is literally the same as maulani and the other characters for natlans that people are saying are too light like not everyone in Mexico is that dark like sure some people are but not everyone is super dark skinned if you don't believe me go and see for yourself like people don't look for evidence before they do anything it saddens me what is happening (any hate on my comment will be ignored since I'm only stating my opinion and my perspective)
Sure that's true but it's not just Mexican culture so sure it's mostly south american cultures but the problem is that there are no dark characters they don't all need dark skin but having one or two would be nice
I get what ur saying but thats not the problem, the problem is that there isnt much variation of characters with different skin tones from Natlan that are out yet. They are just saying that itd be nice to have more variation of characters with different skin colors.
yes skin tones vary in these ethnic groups but the issue is there are NO dark skinned playable characters at ALL (do not even try to bring kaeya or xinyan they are both still very light skinned) how are you gonna take inspiration from nigeria country thats majority black and darker skinned but have no character that is actually dark skinned? or borrow inspiration from brazil the country with the largest black diaspora outside africa but not have a character with curly hair or dark skin? nobody is saying ALL the natlan characters have to be a certain skin tone but its insane to take inspiration from cultures so diverse in skin color and features and them not actually represent that
That last part "everything about your culture is beautiful except you" hits so hard. I still don't understand why they can't just do darker skin when they can have the funds for it (and yes, I know about the xenophobia and racism of some CH people, it's kinda hard to not know if you live in SEA countries) other game developers did it so why can't they? (not a religious person just a history major lol) it's the same energy as jesus being portrayed as white person, when the entire bible takes place in mostly desert areas where people are darker skinned.
The fact that it might be based on the fact that some people in China are racist is wild to me Like imagine if American media stopped having black people because there’s some states with a lot of racists. Not to excuse their racism, but it’s definitely a minority of people.
I think its mainly hoyoverse, other games with global audiences despite the countrys rooted racism still include diffrent skin tones for all types of players. Biggest example i could think of is love nikki which is a chinese dress up game
Fr I think mualani with a dark tan would be so cool Kachina with that skin tone shown in the video is so pretty That one lion girl would look so stunning with dark skin It’s sad to see the lack of representation
There’s such a discrepancy between the skin tone and color palette that I refuse to believe the initial intention was for the characters to be light skinned. There has to be something going on between the designers and the higher ups because it just doesn’t make sense from an artistic perspective. Very long edit so read it or cry about it: since several people are still disagreeing and being absolute bootlickers, let me spell it out for you word for word and make it longer than it needs to be because you guys can’t take the dамn hint. You cannot take inspiration from a real life culture but completely exclude the people, who are the foundation of it. A culture is nothing without its people and I guarantee you that the vast majority of South Africans/Aztecs are NOT pasty white. This is extremely disrespectful and unprofessional of miHoYo. Sumeru was easier to pass off because Middle Eastern populations ARE generally lighter/medium skinned (Nilou-Iran, Cyno-Egypt, Tighnari/Layla-Arab, etc. you’d be surprised but they are more medium than dark because people frequently wear robes to protect from the sun) but even then there was brief controversy over skin tone and even Candace upon her release because the devs named her the anglicized version of the original name, Kandake. But there is no excuse for predominantly dark skinned populations from South Africa/the Aztec. Even Chinese players are boycotting Genshin and demanding diversity. So being a Chinese company is no excuse for MiHoYo to be whitewashing culture inspired characters to fit their racism. Look at Iansan, Xinyan, look at the enemies in Sumeru, concept art, they are all proof that Genshin is perfectly capable (both physically and financially) of designing and rendering characters who are dark skinned. There is no excuse for this.
Yeah like I saw a version where they have more melanin and it actually looks good and fits their designs better. More and more I describe to the theory that they wanted to add dark characters but were stopped or something. Edit: This is the most likes I've ever gotten on a comment. I don't wanna be that guy, but thanks. Edit 2: 1k likes is crazy. Thanks guys.
@@localchibigameuser9732 the CCP passed a law that forbid femboy, androginous or femminine male in chinise videogame. They actually used a Pic of venti as evidence (i would like to remind you that venti human form Is based on a young, likely barely teen, Bard) . Hoyo in all their complaince made gorou
it’s bad enough that they’re not representing darker skin tones… but to name characters after literal DEITIES and white wash them?? eventually players will start associating those names with genshin characters rather than the gods behind the name and it’s almost like erasing the cultures used for hoyoverse’s “inspiration”
@@SheepyBo1as someone from Scotland, yea, these MFers are whiter than me and most of the folks I know. In fact, the UK seems more diverse than the Hoyo cast 😭😭 and that's insane to me
the “boycott” is slowly dwindling tho, i checked twitter’s trending page and it isnt even there for me anymore, ppl WILL forget and end up spending money on the characters.
I may seem ignorant, but I have no intention of boycotting this game. I would understand if Hoyoverse whitewashed some historical figure and players didn't like it. Moreover, there are slightly darker characters in the trailer (a girl at the beginning and later a little girl). Or maybe it's because I live in a country that has never colonized or treated people of different skin colors badly. At the end of the day, it's just a video game with a fictional world. And when it comes to culture, it can be processed creatively. In God of War Ragnarök Angrboda has black skin, although the game is based on Norse mythology, this change did not bother me. The anime Record of Ragnarök retold the story of Adam and Eve expulsion from paradise and it didn't bother me either.Don't Americans do the same thing, only in a much more serious way? Do you remember repainting Cleopatra (a historical figure)?
I also noticed that hoyoverse had a horrible habit of making almost all of the enemies and bad characters dark skinned in the sumeru storylines. At one point i was actually able to predict that the characters i had just ran into would secretly be evil because of the fact that they had darker skin, and i ended up being right :(
@@NootNoot127 As with everything accusation without context will only lead to misunderstanding just like the accusation that the traveler is g**ocide crazy person
tbh the Eremites are all brown because they live under the scorching sun of the desert. Dehya doesn't spend as much time under the sun, apparently and Candace is the darkest playable sumeru character because she's under the sun all day Also most characters are still based on a previous game so obviously the skin color will be brought along
But apparently you don’t mind the fact the ‘totally not Russians’ are one of the main antagonistic factions for most of the game. Perfectly fine to always portray the Eastern Europeans as evil and slaughter them by the hundred but black people? Nah black people are incapable of being evil, should never be the enemy even if the game takes place in a dessert.
As a mexican, I'm not offended but disappointed. In the latino community I've seen three main arguments justifying this, and I don't agree with any of them. 1. "Not all latinos are brown". Which is true however NOT ALL LATINOS ARE WHITE AS PAPER EITHER. It's a 50/50 (more like a 80/20 in favor of the dark skin but I'll be generous) but every character is super pale. 2. "It's the beauty standard. A brown/black character wouldn't be attractive". This is just pure bs. Nesa from Pokemon, Karin from Blue Archive, Ramlethal from Xrd, Claude and Timerra from Fire Emblem, etc. All of them are super attractive if you ask me. 3. "Hoyo is a chinese company so being racist is normal for them". I think it's more racist to think that every chinese person is racist lol *Since some people can't read: I'm talking about the arguments I often see and why I don't agree with them, not about if hoyo is doing wrong or not. We all know hoyo didn't think too much about it, they did what they did because they can do whatever they want and it will still sell
I totally agree with ya, its odd seeing hoyo not making more dark skinned "playable" characters when the whole point of genshin was diverse culture in the game. And many other gacha games having much darker skinned characters. Really disappointing indeed...
But the issue with the races you said is none of them were created by china. Your argument isn't representative of the creators. You should find a mihoyo or chinese dark skinned popular character. Not a japanese or korean made one.
@@furyberserk my point is that black/brown characters can be attractive but fine, Reverse 1999 Centurion, she is brown, attractive, by a chinese company and also happens to be a mexa character (insert El Jarabe Tapatío here 🇲🇽)
@@furyberserk im actually korean and i can tell that all china, korea, japanese beauty standards are pretty much the same. More pale skin = beauty. Also i did not really specify but what i meant was taking culture from the people and not putting any character that the people of culture can relate to is disappointing. (And yes many latinos are white but brown latinos do exist too, ive seen few comments of brown latinos sharing some disappointment too)
This COMPLETELY converted me to the Natlan issue. I thought it was like "Oh whatever, it's just the design, it's inspired by and not just taken" but like That last quote really put it in perspective for me
But when you realize that barely anyone from said culture cares. But when you realize the only ones leading this 'boycott' are Americans who should be minding their own business. But when you realize that hoyoverse doesn't care unless it's cn or jp players complaining which they aren't because they wouldn't like it if characters had darker skin colors.
@@Sampoforeverrrr a TON of people from said culture care. There has been soooooo many videos, tweets, tiktoks etc etc from people from said culture talking and explaining their disappointment in hoyo since before sumeru came out. try to hear the people whose culture are being picked and choose from hoyo, rather than generalize them to "americans"
@@hoof6233 alrighty, but hoyoverse has the support of the chinese government. The government who literally does basically everything they want. (take indian lands, claim SEA marine territories, claim taiwan, monopolize africa) so... I don't really think these people from said culture can change anything. Not tryna be mean, just being truthful. So maybe they should remember that it's just a pixel game and maybe touch grass. Or maybe if they don't like it, try to make your own game including chinese culture and make everyone black.
@@UngaBunga468 I'm just saying these people could do much better things than trying to change literal pixels on a chinese game. If you don't like it, literally just delete the game and play something else instead of 'boycotting' it even though they're just gonna pull for mavuika anyway because her story is amazing or something. Mind you, boycott means to withdraw relations which is clearly bullshit knowing these 'boycotters' are probably doing their dailies right now.
I remember seeing a comment that said, “So they can take inspiration from real life places but not skin color?” Which I think highlights the issue here. If you are saying they should not take inspiration from real people/gods but they should for real life places we got a problem on our hands. Edit: also why are so many people saying that black people wouldn’t fit into the world of Genshin? I have seen genshin ocs look more like a genshin characters than ACTUAL genshin characters. Edit 2: well then this got a lot of people talking. Also to the people that are saying “you just have to wait” please don’t say that. It’s been 4 YEARS and you’re telling me to still wait?
by the quote it means that out of everything, hoyo can’t even represent darker people. Ur ocs are probably GORGEOUS and i’m so glad they have melanin unlike everyone in genshin 😭😭
Saying that darker skinned skined characters don't fit in a game with fucking dragons, gods and magic is crazy, like bro is it illegal to acknowledge the existence of people with darker skin color?
Tbh they don't have to acknowledge anything I'm a person of color and I really don't care what they do because the game is fun and that's all that matters
teyvat is a made up continent, its not an accurate portrayal, to be honest, my opinion is if natlan was apart of teyvat, people in nearby nations would have darker skin, which they dont, plus not all of the characters in the game have been advertised, there are most likely darker skinned characters that they havent advertised, so we'll just have to wait and see.
It feels like I’m in a infinite loop at this moment like in every god damn update the same type of Drama happens with the same type of conclusion *Nothing changes*
@@BaileyZKyes it is the fans fault cause alot of people you know...Can separate reality from fiction and know the differences between interpretation and recreation. Most people just wanna enjoy a game and before you bring skin tone up as cy yu said a Latino would it be nice to have this? Yes. Is it a huge deal like twitter makes it out to be? No. Have you ever seen how much media takes culture and bends it to their own design but people won't complain especially if the character is black washed cause then you'll be deemed the bad guy. And if you asked people what's more important a skin tone or a 3rd end game mode with quality of life features it's obvious what the vast majority of People are gonna keep wanting and asking for
The problem I feel is that it's not just all of this, but knowing hoyoverse can and has done darker skin tones. if it didn't "fit" with the character aesthetic they wanted, they could of changed them. It doesn't have to be every character and npc in Natlan, but if it is an area with more sun exposure, it makes sense that there would be more darker skin tones.
@@elhosteim pretty sure you can still see the other colours the character has on their design but i also think you understood the comment wrong too lol
Citali is not hawaiian, her name is aztec. Mualani does have hawaiian inspiration... but nobody has pointed out that her splash art title is "Meztli guide" which is also aztec. At this point Natlan is 80 percent mesoamerica and 20 percent everywhere else. Edit: They leaked the plants, food and weapons from this region. While the weapons scream aztec, the rest have origins from pretty much everywhere in present day LATAM.
It’s kinda insulting tbh like saying all these indigenous cultures r the same so might as well pull from Māori and Aztec cultures even tho they have literally nothing in common 💀
@@cloin6If I may. it may be possible that they're basing the six tribes on six different groups in the Americas. And Hawaii is lipped in cause it's a state
Meanwhile, in less than 24 hours, Hoyo reverted Neuvillette's spin to win after CN players reported the fix as consumer fraud. It's been almost 2 weeks since "Natlan Boycott" began and Hoyo has not said a word, do you know how comical is that? It's pure gold
to be fair, they fixed it so fast because it's illegal and players could sue them. i do think it's funny tho, this isn't even the first time there's been a boycott and hyv is doing nothing about it
@@rokatao probably because they can’t, think about it, have you ever heard of Chinese media having good POC rep? Hoyo is already pushing it with heavily implied queer rep like Kavetham and beiguangg
@@Pindie12321 last time i checked, dislyte, a chinese game had 19 dark characters. it was released in 2022 as well so genshin had a 2 year headstart, yet that's not even half of what dislyte has. what makes you think they can't do it?? they absolutely can, they just don't want to
@@rokatao 1. Dislyte hardly as popular as genshin therefor the Chinese government doesn’t care as much about what they do 2. It’s also because hoyo is a major company and you cant avoid corruption in the higher ups when you’re that big so yes they don’t want to but they also would get a lot of sh!t from the government. 3. At the end of the day we still got cultural rep and sorta-queer rep and that probably all we’ll ever get so it’s better than nothing
That simply means that not a lot of the CN community is upset with Natlan designs. If they were, and I mean a vast majority online Genshin players, not simply a few, Hoyoverse would be scrambling to rectify it, even tho it would take more time to alter character designs.
Why is it always Europeans and people from the US getting offended? Get a life. I am Mexican, the Aztecs and Mayans were located in parts of Mexico. Why did these cultures first think when Spaniards arrived??? They thought they were “gods” because of their skin and shinning armor. Now, let us assume that did not happen, were Mayans and Aztecs really that “high in melanin”? Furthermore, (in the case of cultures that established in what is now Mexico) are Mexicans (basically heirs of these cultures) really that “high in melanin”? You are all getting offended for something that does not even offends us.
Call me racist but i really like the game as it is especially Natlan and Sumeru Please hoyo don't change the current characters skin tone.. if u want to then do it with future characters...but don't change skin tone of existing characters...just give new clothes/skins that will apply on the skin surface so as to change their skin tone...that will be a win win situation for everyone... Hey i have an idea...just give a limited event skin to natlan and sumeru characters with their re run
Honestly, as a Latina, what hurts the most is seeing that we’re so used to being misrepresented, that most of us just don’t care and want to play the game. I’m hurt, but not surprised. Genshin has brought me a whole community of diverse people, that will stay when the game ends. So that’s that. Choose your battles wisely, y’all. Sadly, growing up in a colonized country/culture has given us a hard shell: few things break us, some battles are long lost. So we just try not to care. At least many of us get to fully experience our culture in real life right now.
@@sussanhurtado8259 The sad part is that this also already happened back in Sumeru, but was largely ignored or forgotten about when the Fatui trailer came out. In the end nothing was done and people continued on as if nothing happened. Natlan's is gaining more traction because 1) big EN VAs are speaking out about this, and 2) mainstream media coverage. Even some people from the CN community are criticizing it, but probably not enough to warrant Hoyo's attention. I'm holding out a faint hope that things change, but unless people realise that to boycott means to stop playing all Hoyo games entirely, I doubt anything will change.
So, natlan, being similar to their inspirations, being a fantasy game, and the guy thinks he is supposed to be represented, when the people are very diversed, and knowing that what caused racism long ago was generalisation of cultures trough skin color? No bruh
@@KermitSFGosh Genshin must be suck in designing black and tan skin coloured characters compared to Reverse 1999 and Dyslite huh??? Seeing between design and story, Genshin flops hard... like an oatmeal skin colours lmafo
@@truelyme0 ah, but doesn't dysilote use real characters? I thought yall that was the whole point of the game, that it has espers that are greek gods, etc. Bruh
ive heard they nerfed him because there was a character in natlan with a similar kit so players would pull for that character instead of sticking with neuvi
Last quote made my heart break. This is such a huge issue that’s being passed by so many because “it’s just a Chinese company” or “Asia just views darker skin as dirty, so of course this would happen!” Adding darker skin genuinely would help solve these issues slowly, but surly. It’s such a shame that those with darker skin who rightfully complain are being hit with the hate they tried to escape from, by the community/developers they loved.
think its a little naive to think they want to change that . why would hoyo care to change? clearly they still make billions without rep so im confused why yall think they care. they do not care and they will never care. they dont want to help make a change because change doesnt make them as much money. yall still played the game even after all the sumeru outrage, this shit happens time and time again and yall have proven to hoyo that they dont need to change
A cn player talking about this subject put it very well, “Conversely, everyone would likely not tolerate a work that prides itself on Chinese elements being filled with characters who have dark skin and thick lips or blonde hair and blue eyes.” Even the player base that people assume “wouldn’t want characters of color” want Natlan characters to represent the culture they were inspired by. This game is played by people all over the world. There’s no harm in letting people see themselves in the in the media that they adore. There is harm in saying you want to show all sorts of different cultures from the real world in your game and then doing the exact opposite of that.
Anime characters don't have race! None of the Liyue characters match IRL people. Do you think IRL people have those kinds of hair colors, eyes, body and skin color?? If they made dark Liyue characters there is no problem (xinyan,hello??), there are people of various colors in china, it's only a problem if they claim the character's race is something else. But Teyvat people don't have earth races, so it's never a problem. Same reasoning, natlan skin color shouldn't tie to real world, there is no Asian/African/caucasian etc race in the fantasy, not to mention they already made natlan darker than other regions. You shouldn't cherry pick a comment and claim it's what the whole country thinks. A country being that big you are bound to find one that agrees with you, also some outside person can easily plant that.
@@Sky-rw5vqhey girlie, shut up! Race is a thing in anime, and if someone is going to take from a culture, they should include the people of said culture bc it's just a nice thing to do.
@@Cometsarecool so now it's them "taking" from a culture just because the shade of skin is not correct to you. Their goal is noble, to celebrate various cultures, but all of that effort and good will is thrown in the trash just because skin is not dark enough. There is nothing special about these cultures that Hoyo must use them as inspiration. But once Hoyo uses them all of a sudden names and cultures nobody knew or care about become famous as if it's Hoyo riding on their fame and not the other way around... This is Teyvat, not Earth! Race makes no sense. Give anyone a character without the tell of the regional clothing I guarantee you they can't tell the "race". Giving them a darker shade is already making a distinction. Do you think all of China/Japan/Europe are porcelain white? It's not supposed to be accurate to real life.
@@Sky-rw5vq just say you're racist and quite picketing You're riding so hard for this company that doesn't care about you, I almost think you're getting paid
Its crazy to think Xinyan probably has the darkest skin tone in the game of all the playable characters... And after this update, will still likely have the darkest skin tone in the game (or will be one of maybe two or three with that skin tone and still not really have anything deeper toned below it) Mihoyo has the range of most beauty companies' actually decent foundation colors on their characters
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for???? Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
@@rrxphvel871 EXACTLY! I DISLIKED IT SO MUCH THAT WHEN I DO MATERIAL FOR HER IN GAME I GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF CHANGING THE VA LANGUAGE. No disrespect to the voice actor at all, but it was just... Such a weird choice?? Like, oh yeah, everyone won't have heavy accents... But this girl? Yeah. She's gonna be yeehaw beehaw central. This coming from someone who lives in the South, and knows a lot of people with southern accents and even has the yee yee come out when angry.
@@numerous_bees4224 yee yee😭. I did zhe same thing hahaha, when she was participating in events I just switched to japanese, still like her as a character tho.
@@rrxphvel871 I know! I really like her as a character, especially since pyro is my main element of choice! (Electro being my second... Overload my beloved
As an East African, I’ve noticed a detail in Genshin. In the Mondstadt quest for Hillichurlian languages, the language spoken is eerily similar to Kiswahili (an East African language)
There was also that incident with the behind the scenes studio tour that they made where it showed a worker modeling the hilichurls dance after indigenous peoples dances and it got so bad that they had to completely remove that video
@@lemin0u Exactly tho, that’s what they’re not doing, they’re just going F2P (not that they were the whales in the first place) and claim they’re boycotting
My skin tone is dark because I works under sunlight and I dont give a damn about video games. Just play the game. Its not that serious. Honestly, hoyoverse shouldn't even include dark characters. No kids cry. Problem solved.
@@adamharries610@adamharries610 Hi, this isn't about you and your opinion. Hope this helps. I'm from sid culture natlan is based on and I find it extremely disrespectful to whitewash a god's appearance like thatI'
As a Mexican born and raised in Mexico, I normally feel Americans (both white and second gen immigrants) tend to exaggerate cultural appropiation or representation issues a little bit. However, this is not it. I was so excited about Natlan representing Mexico's native people before colonization, and although the culture is beautifully represented, its dissapointing seeing these characters be this pale. Saddest thing is, in the Latinoamerican/Mexican side of social media, people (a lot, if not most) are trying to defend Hoyoverse, claiming that Latinoamericans come in all colors. While this is absolutely TRUE now, it wasn't true before colonizers took power in our countries, which is what Natlan was supposed to represent :/ Edit: in the video it says Citlali is a Hawaiian name but Citlali is actually a very common name in Mexico which comes from Nahuatl!
It's a bit strange because it's supossed to be based on the time before colonation but there are many modern elements, like the archon glasses and cloth, so I'm not that sure. Yo voy a esperar a que salga Natlan y saber más sobre la historia y ver más personajes, porque en Sumeru por ejemplo anunciaron primero los personajes de la selva y luego cuando llegaron los del desierto resulta que todos los del desierto eran de piel oscura. A mí me encantaría q cada tribu de Natral (q son 6) tenga características diferentes al basarse en muchas culturas (Latam precolombina, parte de África, Australia, por lo q he leido) Saludos desde Uruguay 😁
I agree with you, I'm Central American so while I am fit under mayan culture. And it sucks that they're isn't more melanin in the game , everytime they ask what they can do better, I literally emphasize on this everytime.. but after seeing the trailer, I don't think I can keep on playing because it is just repetitive. By this point. :/...
@@mrrrrrrrrrr Sí, ojalá, Sumeru es mi región favorita en cuanto a historia y mapa. Yo voy a esperar a q salga para formar mi opinión. Generalmente los personajes q salen en los trailers son los q te encontrás al principio y luego vas conociendo más personajes.
To be honest I didn't think race was such a problem in genshin games, but the more characters get added the more the patterns start becoming clearer.. The only two black characters we have currently are both Pyro Claymore and both are considered to be the worst characters in the game
Citlali is also a common indigenous Aztec name in Mexico!! I was so excited for Hoyo to have a region and characters after some of my culture but they disappointed..
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for???? Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
After all it's a Cn game mostly targeting the Cn market, and the beauty standards there are mostly pale skin. They sell characters to make money, so they'll lean into whatever designs bring them more.
Its not just because of "natlans trailer". This is something that has been an issue for ages across ALL HYV games. Natlans trailer is the straw that has broken the camels back. We had this issue in genshin since Sumeru
In fact, in the Sumeru desert we had some darker-skinned characters (Cyno, Candace, Dehya, Sethos for example, who are descendants from the desert), while the other part of the region is rainforests, and in fact, it isn’t common for people from there to have darker skin. The issue with it is that we don’t have that much characters from the desert and we should’ve gotten more, but with other characters (not only in the rest of Sumeru, but in other regions as well) their white skin color is actually based on real history. Like, there almost weren’t any darker-skinned people in Germany, China or Japan at the medieval times. So the complaints about Natlan characters are reasonable, but about other regions - no, they are not (except complaining about a lack of characters from Sumeru desert)
@@actualzelda people complain about the forest are full of white people instead of tan. And desert should be darker skinned The way I see it, is that the forest, in lore, has so much shade that it just blocks sunlight a lot.
@@actualzelda alot of things Firstly is the blatant colourism, many of the playable characters were neon white ESPECIALLY nahida despite their names coming from famous historical figures (e.g. Ibn-Alhaytham, Al-Tighnari, Dihya, Kandake,etc.) Next is the orientalism, hyv created the character as a crucature of the harmful stereotype of arabs and indians by making her a scammer and greedy, she was also a very messy character design as she has multiple cultures kixed in tgth instead of one much like other characters, she even draws inspo from aladdin which is an extremely bad orientalist depiction Next is the enemies/eremites being more darker than the playable characters, the remites were also described as "barbaric" and were called many names by other ingame characters And then nahida,nahida was named after a persian goddes and had many inspirations from other spirits and beings that were undoubtedly NOT as pale as nahida is ingame and in her drip marketing
@@eternity6856This, exactly this. People complain about Natlan like it's the first time they ignored people with darker skin tones. But this has been going on for so long.. Though, deep down we all know it's not just Genshin. It kinda is Anime in general...
Some people have resorted to calling US the racists for wanting proper representation after they literally take our deities, gods and historical figure’s names and our cultures for their game while leaving our appearances out the picture. Some people are saying “they don’t have to be accurate it’s their own vision of the game” while the literal mob npcs do have ethnic features such as dreads and locs while being from the same region. Literal proof that their “vision” does include what we wanted to see more of, but will never be on playable characters. It’s so obvious that they’re doing this because of colourism and even some racism, but for some reason us pointing that out always results in “it’s just a game/it’s a fantasy game” as if fiction has never affected reality before/ as if fiction doesn’t reflect reality. The game was made by real people, so regardless of it being a game those individuals still chose to be disrespectful towards us and keep us out, insinuating that we don’t belong in their game.
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for???? Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
@@Dedddedddde”you’re tying to recognize the past struggles and continued struggles against a certain group of people even though you aren’t part of it? It’s not your culture to look at,racist bitch.” -something some twitter user would say
@@Dedddedddde It's racist to live by stereotypes and think that the only form of representantation that exist is skin color, so yeah.. they're (boycotters) ironically being racists
Some people might take you seriously... except... Have you ever been to China? Japan? Asia in general? You might notice the overwhelming abundance of darker skinned and tanned people, and yet.... nobody is complaining about light-skinned characters. Also, since you've decided to talk about *Enemies,* Let's talk about enemies shall we? Let's focus on the *Humanoid* ones: *-* There are 12 kinds of Fatui enemies, *9 of which* are light-skinned; *-* There are 11 kinds of Treasure Hoarder enemies, *ALL of which* are light-skinned; *-* There are 12 kinds of Eremite enemies, *5 of which* are light-skinned; *-* And there are 5 Weekly Bosses who have a Humanoid form, *ALL of which are light-skinned.* *Have you seen anyone complain about that?* As per the leaked info we have thus far on Natlan, while some enemies have been shown to possess some physical attributes drawn from the same culture Natlan was inspired from, there has also been many NPCs from different cities/tribes possessing those attributes. Let's not pretend Hoyoverse is only painting such characters as Bad/Negative and using them as enemies. That would be unwise.
I’m torn on this issue, because the same thing happened in Sumeru, but contrary to what we (middle and south easterners) expressed. For Sumeru, the issue was that many people wanted the stereotypical ‘Ayayayayayaa’ turban and hijab wearing, camel riding, stereotypical ‘Arab’ and we don’t all look like that. We’re not all dark skinned. A lot of us appreciated more focus on the culture (arts, scholarly academics, food, etc) than depicting the stereotypes that made people comfortable in their virtue signaling. With Natlan though, I do feel the skin tones could be more representative. The peoples of South America and the islands do also vary in skin tone, but it feels obtuse to paint them all white. At the same time, it’s a pixelated game in a fantasy world and like, can we put this much effort into real life activism for the peoples everyone’s harping on about here…?
It being a game doesn't excuse anything talking about this is issue talking about real issues because the problem here is COLORISM and Whitewashing of real poc people and dietys which is a real world issue. If they didn't want to add people with darker skin then why base the areas in game off areas that are known for having people with darker skin tones. No one would be this upset or calling hoyoverse out if they didn't start playing with others culture and religions. If they didn't want to include people with darker skin they shouldn't have included their culture.
Yeah, to be honest. It's just a game that people gets worked up on, while I understand the issue, a game is a game, a fantasy one at that. Is it supposed to have effort into representing the people and not just it's culture? Or have their own cultures that are based/inspired on irl culture and have it's own people? I may be wrong on that, although I do think that protesting over a game is.. Childish? To say the least, it's a game, not irl.
@@NovaAndStaryes. There should be effort into it if they decide to take parts of people's cultures. People are sick of having their cultures used instead of represented, and that's what this is an example of. Especially so when without the people, the culture would die. The people are just as important, if not moreso than what they're deciding to use in their game, especially since they're monetizing off of it.
@@NovaAndStar I think you guys are focusing way too much on the representation aspect and not enough on the fact that hoyoverse whitewashed multiple real deitys. They based these characters off of real gods this like taking Zues or Jesus and suddenly making them black. They did not have to base these areas off of real culturesthey did not have to base these characters off of real gods. they could've easily just made up areas or based them off their own culture but they chose to this route. the people are the most important part of culture because at the end of the day it simply would not exist without them so if you're not representing the people you aren't representing the culture.
“Oh it’s because there a asian company” when literally there’s so many Asian companies that do have black characters that are popular and not only black characters but so much more 😭
I’m Chinese (my entire family is) and I think they’re representing Chinese just fine. I showed a few Liyue Genshin characters to my mother, who was born in China and has all her relatives Chinese, and she says the game did a very good job at representing Chinese cultures. Some Chinese families have different opinions but I think they at least did Liyue right.
Im just gonna call it. The moment Natlan releases, people are gonna spend and get the characters and slowly stop caring about this "controversy" because hyv didn't listen
That will happen but it *can* just be a bias btw. Things will always inevitably calm down because the people who are pissed leave and so it can *seem* like it just blew over and no one ever actually cared enough to do anything about it, when... they did what people say you need to do it and just stopped playing and talking about the game. This can seem even more like the case because content creators and pretty much every other *visible* player will NOT leave the game even if they criticise because... Duh, it's their jobs. That doesn't mean they '"shill"', just that it's not so casual a thing to just leave and also often they can do more by staying and using their visibility to be critical when appropriate.
@@BaileyZKbut again it just shows people don't care enough and this virtue signalling is pointless. We enjoy games we don't need this whining skin colour for the sakes of skin colour cause then you'll probably get mad still cause you ain't done justice. Look at GTA SA why is that game so beloved is it cause of the mostly black characters? No it's cause the story and gameplay is good and whilst Carl is a criminal he is relatable, likeable enjoying to watch and play. And that is at the end of the day the vast majority of players will care about. And honestly if they do leave...good we can then maybe get a better reputation of the constant complainers about every little thing
Yeah you’re probably right. The same exact thing happened with the three wishes thing. Everyone was saying don’t spend money, they’re being disrespectful to their player base. But Xianyun (I believe) still made a lot of money during that time
@@Neo-o people are people they have free will and like it or not a company doesn't have to obey what we say and if people really cared enough they would have kept it going but just gotta ask tho how many people actually stuck to it for longer then a day?
Im brown skin mexican, i want everyone knows and focus to learn about small hints of my indigenous culture, architecture, music and traditions. Not focusing if my skin is dark or not. Skin color is meaningless.
I mean, dehya, Candace, cyno and xinyan are the only bronze skinned playable characters after 4 years so I can see why people would be upset. Edit: also Kaeya
This stings real bad for me, I'm Totonaca, one of the cultures shown in Natlan, Mexican Indigenous scarcely get shown for what they are, so I had hopes for Natlan, but no
@@orangejuiceaudio996 I have been telling people what you're saying. I'm the son of a Colombian native, but I'M NOT NATIVE. Latin american people keeps saying "gringos just complain about everything", brother you're the son of spanish people, not indigenous, get it through your skull. This is not the first time white people have tried to "fix" or eradicate black people from history, it's ignorant to act like this demeanor isn't harmful.
@@UndeadAlv Well, some points to get across your comment. 1.- While indeed most mexicans are spanish descendants not all of us are, just in Mexico there are at least 6 indigenous communities of native americans that make special distinctions on people from pure blood and spaniard mixed, including Totonacas, Mayans, Tarahumaras, Yaquis, Tehuimas, Papagos, among others, so there are, indeed, pure blooded native americans in Mexico, and a whole lot more than in the US. You have to understand that the Spanish conquest and the British conquest were a whole lot different, Spaniards stategy was to blend their culture with the locals, they subjugate them by imposing their belief system and their religion, they destroyed ancient texts and architecture but never messed with the local communities, unlike the British, who came to the continent and started going ballistic on everything and everyone that was different, Spanish conquest's objective was to "civilize the savages by faith" that's why there are countless records of academic texts on subjects such as Latin, art and religion in native languages aimed to "educate" the locals, the british just wanted the land so they erradicated everything on their way to settle themselves, so No, we are not all "descendants from spaniards" 2.- The fact that most people are indeed descendants from spaniards doesn't change the fact that Americans do complaint about everything on behalf of everyone else because they tend to live in their own bubble and think everyone has the same views as they do and, thus, have to be offended by the same things, like when they tried to cancel Speedy González 3.- We, as latin americans are not fixated on representation, outside the US communities, people who live in Latin America dont ask for it or care tbh, BUT we do care that, when we are represented at leats do it in a faithful and respectful way, like the thing with Primos from Disney Channel, no one asked for it but we reacted because it is an offensive representation of latin americans
@@A1998GatewayPC you're saying "we don't care" as if I didn't just say I'm the son of a native and I do care because I have read enough to see how this could be harmful. You don't have to agree with me, but why say the point doesn't make sense when there's no reason to defend this situation? Like I said, it's not A BIG DEAL but it's relevant regardless, the company wouldn't suffer by not being disrespectful, quite the opposite.
But you're not from NATLAN right? Why are you comparing yourself to the citizen of Natlan when you're not even from there? Learn to separate fiction from real life. And maybe go outside and touch some grass😬 I pity you begging for a validation for your skin color from a fictional game🥺
natlan was the nation i was looking forward to the most because i love volcanoes, but also the nation i was scared to see the reveal of for this exact reason. i just want a character i can play as who has the same skin tone as me… im not even considered very dark but im still darker than dehya, and whenever i cosplay im commonly asked when ill do a character like candace or dehya just because of my skin tone. its so frustrating to even be limited to around 3 options
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for???? Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
you can absolutely cosplay characters that dont match your skintone in their original design!! just dont try to change YOUR skintone for the cosplay, think blackface but the opposite direction. as long as you like the character and enjoy cosplaying them you should absolutely go for it.
This is the same thing that happened during Sumeru. Yes, Natlan was based off of African, Mexican, and Brazilian culture (and the other parts of South America), so yes, they do need more darker skin toned characters for sure. Im half Brazilian, and the thing is there are white Brazilians (due to when the Portuguese took over Brazil around the same time North America was taken by the English and Irish) however there are not that many in comparison to darker skin toned people, fun fact I'm even in Brazil right as we speak and one of my uncles is white. The Spanish took over Mexico, Chile, Argentina, Honduras, etc as well and they were also white, but again they do need more darker skined characters
Sendo também brasileiro, é importante lembrar que mesmo que a miscigenação tenha ocorrido, os fenótipos dos povos nativos de nossas terras ainda se fazem existentes, especialmente em comunidades tradicionais e originárias. A miscigenação não matou proporcionalmente, ou brancalizou completamente estas populações. A hoyo está basicamente pegando toda uma referência de "UM" grupo cultural de países latino-americanos (nativo americanos), colocando tudo no carrinho, criando visuais, moda incrivelmente bem referenciadas, e colocando isto em personagens de aparência europeia, que NEM os chineses possuem (apesar deles perseguir incessantemente serem mais claros, mesmo nem eles sendo assim). Ou seja, eles tão tipo: gosto de tudo que vi aqui, cultura, geografia, estilo, PORÉM não gostei da sua gente e de sua aparência, pois não são brancos o bastante.
Natlan is based on INDEGENOUS America not their colonizers as far as i know ,spain was an inspiration for fontaine so the argument that those white looking natlan characters are based on spanish culture is very dumb
@@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972 Even East Asian people are complaining as I’ve heard. Hoyo is just being racist asf, plainly, people don’t like their culture being used without proper representation :/
The va’s of Sucrose, Albedo, and Sethos are also speaking against this. Im really hoping Genshin listens or else Natlan is going to be one of the most hated updates in Genshin
why do they care so much abouth the characters color skin, im from México and a good amount lf people i know are really white, i even ask one of my friends when i first met her that if she was fine because of how pale she looked
I'm not the one to speak about cultural representation of others since I'm white as fuck but their response does bother me the most, basically i understand what they said as "genshin is all fiction so we're not trying to represent anything properly UNLESS it's china"
It’s not just that. Hoyoverse is a Chinese company. Of course they are more likely to make pale characters just like how African or middle eastern company’s would make darker characters
Thing is, they didn't do Liyue to represent China's people, they represented their culture, but they didn't design characters and NPC's to have "yellow" colored skin and stretched out eyes.
@@Dylansvsp I understand the fan service, I can understand their beauty standards, but the characters are not Chinese anymore, you won't find a single black person even among the nps in genshin while honkai star rail for example fixed that problem,
@@namieblinker5922 don't even understand where the stereotism came from, I'm not talking about that, in liyue you actually learn something about the Chinese culture, the nps have proper appropriate clothing just like in inazuma, asian symbolic, while in Sumeru: eat mushrooms, jump on mushrooms, talk to mushrooms
@@namieblinker5922 tevyat is fictional. They can take inspiration from cultures and design their characters how they please. Also, there are many pale brown people. And we all know I mostly white people getting mad about this.
THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS!! I don't see a lot of content creators actually address stuff like this about Genshin, usually just turning a blind eye on it :(
@@gustavju4686 they address it but dont address the reasons why people dislike it and just say "Genshin drama is happening." so that people think its something stupid
@@ghoostghost3336it is stupid though. It’s a video game and fictional. I am black and hispanic and idc about some chars skin colors in a fictional madeup digital game. Because it’s not real life. It’s a fantasy game aka NOT real. Maybe it’s because i don’t play genshin as often anymore, but I feel like all of this is virtue signaling. How many times have people boycotted the game for this reason and came crawling back? It’s because people do not care at the end of the day, all of this is kiddy nonsense and people need to just touch some grass.
Now that i think about it, Reverse 1999 and Genshin are both chinese games created from chinese companies. Reverse 1999 has more cultural reference and even skin tones, but how come hoyo doesn't?
Exactly It doesn’t matter where the company is from representation is needed I am still going to play genshin but until they fix this once natlan comes out I’m going to stop wishing
The thing with Re:1999 is that it's meant to be set in the real world we live in but with fantasy/sci-fi elements (i.e. Arcanists and stuff). While Teyvat is a fictional "Earth" that takes inspiration from various real-world cultures. I think a much better comparison would be Genshin vs Arknights, since Terra is also a fictional reinterpretation of Earth that is divided into different nations inspired by real ones. And Arknights already has way more dark-skinned characters than Genshin lol (maybe unfair since AK has so many more operators, but still..). I'm not super familiar w/ AK but Flint, Beeswax, Thorns and Tuye come to mind
Genshin impact is not based on real world and world history like reverse 1999 does. Not at all They're take inspiration but not representation and real world historical like reverse 1999
@@gaycore3301 they do appear in Genshin world too. Are you really think representation is about skin colour? That's sad to acknowledge for me. And reminds you AGAIN genshin is not representation any of real world culture they're just take inspiration and it didn't do make original culture turn out bad or made people think it actually it in real world. It's like Easter eggs, if you know you know, if you don't have those knowledge to begin with, they are just a game for people to enjoyed. That's so simple. If you want more black character or something they do that but few because . You can just don't spend money or play their games.
It happens most of the time, not just in Genshin to be frank. They complain about something, but once that something gets in their hands, somehow, their complaints are no more. This kind of thing also happens when there will be an upcoming game. Once the game is released, their mouths are zipped shut. These people i tell you
Everyone praised Inazumas accuracy while "boycotting" Sumeru but sales and playerbase shows Sumeru outperformed Inazuma despite the twitter kids meltdown.
I'm not someone who looks out for stuff like that much, but I noticed too. It's not hard to do darker skinned characters. Sumeru barely did it, but even their characters had darker skin than those. It's ridiculous.
Para mi lo ridículo es que los anglo-hablantes piensen que en Latinoamérica y África somos todos de piel oscura. Gracias compañía china por no realizar actos "Woke".
@@nyososcasa2253Mijo nmms sigue siendo una mayoría por no decir que los nombres tomados aquí y la cultura representada sí son de etnias de pigmentación más oscura, no digo que no pongan personajes blancos en la nueva región pero entiendo el porque puede resultar extraño que la mayoría no tenga colores que se tienen en la mayoría de estos países. Igual no diría que es la mejor razón para boicotear hoyo pero sí fue algo decepcionante, still better than sumeru tho
These people really need to stop being sensitive about the Natlan Trailer.. please just enjoy the trailer, region, its characters, its beautiful lore, etc. Even the Saurians and the other creatures, bosses, mobs, and more. HoYoVerse and their developer's did a good job, and we should give them props for how many details they worked on and added. Especially for the lore and characters. Every culture is beautiful and wondrous. In a good way. It's really sad when people just act like this. :( I know there's not a lot of characters with darker skin tones, but just be grateful we have Natlan and the others out, alright? Just enjoy the darker skin tone characters we have, y'know? Candace, Cyno, and other ones I can't remember? I hope I'm not being racist or anything like that of the sorts. If I am, I'm so sorry! :(
They brainwashed us into thinking cyno, cadance etc are dark skin, I'm literally the same skin tone as CYNO and I'm white. They literally whitewashed a Nigerian deity and turned him into a Gacha alpha wolf bad boy hybrid oc.
@Hinapawz ororon isn't a Nigerian god though? It's a character in a fictional country. If they were putting the actual god in the game and changed his skin color than yes, but that's not what they're doing
You see the problem is majority of HyV players are from the east not west. They will cater to which one is their bigger player base than the smaller. I am from Asia. And majority of people I know who plays this games, doesn't give shit about the "representation" the characters should show. You see how fast HyV fixed Neuvi's nerf? Because CN players(which is their biggest fan base) complained. Zhongli's buffed in the past? Because CN complained. If people want their voices to be heard, starting a boycott hashtag isn't really gonna reach Hyv considering people tried to 'boycott' them a lot of times. A lot of us, from my place, couldn't careless about the things happening, but if you want to for hyv to actually notice(they know but rather they're not doing anything) or do something, its better if CN players would start complaining as well since they listen to them the most.
This!! In Russia most players do realize that the target audience is the Chinese, not us. Westerners are so used to be in the spotlight that they panic when something is being done not for them.
the fact that people try to defend this by saying “oh well chinese people are colorist and racist so it’s understandable” it is not understandable. we are in a century where this segregation and discrimination should not be taking place and we shouldn’t “accommodate” just because some people have lived as racists, if we don’t educate them then who will?
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for???? Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
even chinese fans were calling hyv out 😭 i saw a few posts from a chinese forum that said if hyv wanted to take inspo from africa/latam, it would make sense for them to make black characters
"if we don't educate them who will?" my man, you're bearing the same principle as christoper colombus and yet mhy is the one who is racist? bs, you're just wanna white wash other culture with your idea
@@your_average_cultured_dude you are probably only saying this because you aren't the demographic being used. now if someone where to take something from you (like a say) that you made with a deep meaning close to you and then proceeded to completely water it down how would you feel?
@@zolamosley9156 I would feel perfectly fine. That's how I felt about Sumeru, for which I was the demographic being "used". I know the difference between fiction and reality 🤯🤯🤯
This all started around Sumeru. I don't understand why people make such a deal out of it now. They should've been concerned around the release to midway of Inazuma if they really cared that much. Yoimiya, Raiden, and few others don't even look asain they are just in Traditional clothes. The lack of characters from Monstadt that don't go along with the German like theme and ethnicity. The lack of people in Fontaine actually representing the french, sure there are words but where are the ethnic groups of French there? The traditional clothes. People only complain when a skin tone isn't atoned for, they don't care for the other ethnicities and cultures. Additionally no other games like Genshin get flamed for all white characters despite literally only having white characters. I am not dissing everyone's arguement but if you didn't care about other ethnicities and stuff you don't have much a right to be mad.
@@thelight7730yeah, I mean I’m German, French, and Russian. I have a twink femboy, a mentally unstable girl, and the 1,000,000th Russian themed villain to have ever been created. I don’t really care tbh, I mean, in Russia genshin is pretty popular and they don’t care about how they are represented. Though to be fair, I do agree that we could have more darker skinned characters in the game, but unfortunately that just won’t happen. It’s obvious why when you look at the Chinese player base, and knowing them, they’d probably do some literal domestic terrorism over a character being to dark. Plus their government would be mad, they have a really nationalist mindset and are even pretty racist to Europeans or “white” people. Hell, even other Asians. They view Korean and Japanese people as “inferior” copies of them. (Edit: I’m also gonna add that they also technically “gender-washed” Raiden shougun, he was a real guy, bet non of these people know about him though)
God, the smell of privilege from many of you guys is strong. This isn’t a case of Hoyo doing whatever, it’s been shown over and over that they are capable of making characters with more melanin. God forbid a fantasy world has variety. Fans are making noise because we love the game and want it to do better. If we can drop wendigos and use of voodoo, we can demand respect for other cultures.
Bro, privilege is having enough time to complain about the skin color of some pixels in a chinese game. The people that says that it doesnt matter when they turn white characters into black because it is fiction are the same complaining there isnt darker skinned characters. Honestly if you are that worried about diversity then join an organization that actually help with that.
@@alejandrocano3010beautifully said. Becoming diversity warrior in chinese made game, commenting in youtube short videos while scratching belly in their bed and hoping it bring changes. They should have commenting when liyue characters came out and no one have small eyes.
@@alejandrocano3010I’m generally not too pressed about these matters, I usually could care less tbh with you. But respectfully and genuinely, they do have a point. How are you going to take from cultures, but not reflect the people within those same cultures? No less, disrespecting a well known and worshipped deity. It’s not really okay. Sure it’s fictional, but they’re taking real life inspiration into their works. I don’t think it’s wrong to want to see the culture you’re a part of be reflected accurately in the media you consume, y’know?
@@alejandrocano3010 I don't think it's about what you said, it's about how Mihoyo is “cherry picking“ from cultures. They are using literally everything about them EXCEPT their skin colour. Seems kinda shady... Right..?
@@p1nk_ideano, they are a chinese company, most chinese people are white and they would sell less if they made every character 💅🏿. All of you dont undestand that hoyo is still a buisness and their objective is to make money and since most of their players are white, they dont need to change anything. And many people still play the game even though they complain for 5 hours on twitter or some comment sections
Considering that the skin color of the second darkest Natlan character is apparently still lighter than the lightest skin color you can choose in Roblox, that's INSANE!! (tbh. I can't quite confirm this since I've only seen screenshots, but still...)
What sort of irrelevant arguement is _that?_ Some games allow you to use the full colour spectrum as well as gradients that range from "0.01 seconds after the Big Bang" to "literally just a black hole;" are you trying to claim that games that choose to have a _different_ aesthetic are somehow _less valid?_
@@Jackson-ub1uv There’s nothing argumentative about this comment. And after reading your previous reply more carefully I’m not even going to continue this. Don’t bother replying I’ve already muted you.
it feels so bizzare to take an entire culture but then proceed to ignore the race of people it belongs to. its textbook definition of cultural appropriation
@@namixless9732 ••• Genshin Impact is a fantasy game. Why you spout cultural appropriation on it? It’s nonsense You talk like GI is a historical accurate documentary meant to represent every single country 1:1 with their real-life inspirations… But it isn’t, so stop being so overly offended If you want to be actually offended over something legitimately insulting, go to AC Shadows‘ attempt to rewrite Japanese history by overglorifying Yasuke as a ‚Legendary Samurai‘ to which over 90% of his attributes are invented by a white author selling his invented infos as ‚facts‘
@@Radio-97 i love how you try to argue this but them proceed to get mad about another videogame. what happened to “its just a fantasy game” or does that only apply to hating black and brown people
@@namixless9732 I used AC in this example because they advertise themselves so much with their ‚historical accuracy‘ and their journos try to even rewrite Japanese history just for the only mentioned PoC character who was just a retainer and not a ‚samurai extraordinaire‘ like Ubisoft titles him as the male MC. It isn‘t hating on black/brown people, so I have no clue how you draw that conclusion Y‘all hate on Genshin every other week and call it to the xth time racey meanwhile AC does nothing but insult Japanese history and that‘s for Westerners perfectly acceptable What AC Shadows does is racey motivated, not Genshin people-_-
What I find bizarre is your take on it. So far, from the 9 Natlan Characters that have been teased, 3 are tanned, 2 are dark-skinned, and 4 are light-skinned. As for the leaks that have been shown thus far, there are many black, and dark-skinned NPCs in the different cities/tribes in Natlan. Even some of the enemies possess some attributes and skin-tones drawn from the real life cultures that have inspired Natlan. I would definitely say that *"but then proceed to ignore the race of people it belongs to"* is an inaccurate statement. (not that skin color matters in real life, let alone in a fictional fantasy video game, but still).
@@Radio-97 calling AC a historically accurate game is actually schizophrenic talk. if you wanna be consistent with your arguments youre wrong in both regards as genshin made this with the purpose of representing brown people but somehow forget to include the brown people in their own culture, whereas AC used a beloved legend that hs had multiple comics,mangas, and an anime. the reason i point out that its only about hating brown people is because of the hypocrisy i just pointed out. youre totally fine with inaccuracy if it means that you get to forget that minorities exist.
As a white looking latino person, I am disgusted by the nataln characters. Stop using the “not all Latin American pll have darker skin” comments!! Natlan’s characters don’t look like my friends, or like the people I see on street every day, it’s a reminder of the cultural appropriation and the massive dehumanization we suffer outside our countries.
The day you understand that the game is inspired by cultures but is not a 1:1 copy of real life, you will stop crying about everything. The Japanese have black hair and there are no Inazuma characters with that hair color. The closest thing is Sarah but she has a dark bluish color. Also even with the Chinese opera theme and Yun Jin's actress voice, she came out to say that what they did in the game was not 100% correct either to Chinese opera standars. The game does not pretend at any point to be a realistic story material, it is a fantasy game that takes inspiration from different things of the real world and adapt that to the game.
@@siabenkamui8968then why can they make the npcs have dark skin colored while they cant with the playable characters who are canonly supposed to be dark but instead whitewashed them? The thing here too is that its clear that their designs were def made for dark skin tones because when you darken their skin, it compliments them SO MUCH more.
@@SatanHades Same reason why Inazuma is based in Japan and yet it does not have characters with black hair but several blondes... the game does not use or intend to use real world racial traits in the characters at any time, except for the fictional ones of the game as half-humans/beasts or onis.
@@siabenkamui8968 yes, i understand what youre trying to point out. But im asking WHY the npcs are dark skin yet the playable characs that are SUPPOSED to have dark skin is not? Yeah sure, the characters are fictional and doesnt base of the real world, but why are the npcs that are also related to the culture dark skin, like how theyre suppose to be, yet not the playable ones who ARE suppose to be dark? the thing here is that, they have absolutely NO REASON for them to not make the characters black since they have npcs that are darker than their literal darkest playable character. (Srry if my english sucks and my words keeps on repeating)
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mnWtf... this isn't just implied racism, thinking that Sumeru and Natlan characters are a bunch of savages. Bffr, Hoyoverse has been nothing but blatantly racist and colorist to their games
@@tsugumu-mugu He said the museum doesn't have people in it, I just pointed out how weird that is. And they said POC is savages when? Was the Akademia not the main enemy of the story and the Eremites not our allies to take them down and the fact the Avademia is racist to them a major plot point? Did you play Sumeru at all? Seems like you didn't. The only people who treat eremites as savages are literally the villians we where made to fight against and the eremites where literally our alies. There is limits to stupidity, you just found it.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn I finished Sumeru for a long time already, it's just disrespectful how Hoyoverse made their enemy npc's more dark skinned than the rest of the playable characters. It just made me think Hoyo attributed eremites to a bunch of savages because of the statement you said that the museum wants no animals from the zoo.
@@tsugumu-mugu Uh dude can you read? At all? Literally read my comment, not once did I call anyone animals or savages. You should really read properly before reacting. The original comment said that the Museum has everything but the people and I pointed out that that would mean that the museum would keep people like a zoo keeps animals which makes no sense. You really need to work on your reading comprehenshion before reacting this angrily on the internet.
Guys....this has been a problem since sumeru... maybe I cared more about sumeru since I'm Indian and my culture was apart of it but why are you guys so surprised still???? The history book was right infront of you and you didn't learn your lesson??
People never learn from history. Once Natlan comes out this whole situation will suddenly dissappear same as it did with Sumeru and hoyo will have done nothing. Who knows maybe in a year or two this drama will come up again only to follow the same pattern and die down in less than 2 months with no result.
people were really outraged by sumeru. it just seems that the whole thing with natlan is sticking harder this time. but most people will probably move on once the nation and its characters are released, it’s what happened in sumeru.
They also seem to forget Natlan is the nation of pyro in a very literal sense. You will not find tanned people near areas of extreme heat. I'd be surprised if the populace wasn't more pale than Mondstat citizens.
As an african player, i’m deeply disappointed that HYV couldn’t do the bar minimum. Tbh, pale people are not the problem, but why do you want to represent a culture but represent the people from this culture ? Most of latam and west african players thought that Natlan would represent them but…
The thing here is that Mihoyo literally stated that they are not intending to represent but rather take inspiration. But still, that last comment really puts this situation into perspective, I can't disagree with it. Because this is exactly what Mihoyo seems to think and I can absolutely understand your disappointment
yup, im more with the fact that its a fiction game etc but i completely agree with this thing - they are taking the cultural symbols of those countries and basing them in the game where its more beneficial for them to make lighter characters and all. thats one thing i kinda wish they didnt do because that just.. defeats the point?? like its not like ororon looks identical to the irl oloron and has identical powers so why tf even inspire from him? just name him bob and itll be the exact same. like the primordial one isnt called jesus
The absurdity doesn't stop there btw. Putting aside the cultural factor there's still a thing they forgot about: biology. As far as i can see Natlan seems to have a climate similar to the regions right below the equator meaning that the sun there burns you to death from how hot it is. Now here comes the question: how can there be so many white people in a place where natural selection favors dark skin? Even if it's a fantasy game you can still see that biology is still the same. In Mondstadt (Germany) and Fontaine (France) there are a lot of light skinned people. In Liyue (China) and Inazuma (Japan) they tend towards an asian skin color (the difference is really small but it's there). In Sumeru (Arabian Peninsula) you run into a problem. The only dark skinned people are the ones from the desert which doesn't make sense since the Sumeru forest kinda looks like a rainforest and rainforests grow near the equator so technically speaking there should be more tanned characters but it's not the case. You could try to justify this with some characters (Tighnari that is a different specie or Collei that comes from outside) but characters such as Alhaitam or Kaveh should be tanned cause they were born there. As you can see even when you put aside the cultural factors you still end up with something that doesn't make sense to be there. Something that feels inconsistent.
Because hating on Genshin is just a meme at this point. Anything is triggering to snowflakes who think a fantasy game about a fictional world is representative of reality
And how they want to add "cultures" into a "work of fiction" game :V. Like bro, have you heard of Black Myth Wukong? No? There are even some motherfckers out therr want to add FCKING DEI into a game where you control a monkey in a fantasy world and bonk monsters :V
Genshin needs to do better with melanin, but the fact that we cant even talk about Natlan without someone complaining about the skin color is crazy. Like let me play the game in peace? And I hate how people are complaining about racism but keep saying “oh it’s a Chinese game ofcourse it’s going to be bad” like isn’t that racist too? Now that doesn’t justify genshin’s actions but these arguments are getting so tiring and off track.
@@PurpleDiamondsTM yeah like that’s going to do anything 😂. When your favorite CC’s still are going to continue to whale, never mind the fact that EN is only a portion of Genshin’s player base.
@@seika_ru I think this boycott is more serious Genshin's earnings have reduced a considerable amount recently Hopefully that sentiment goes to Hoyo in general There are some dialogues in-game that read as the creative team disagreeing with the executive by the way they talk about history and expression 😭
so many people in the comments sound so stupid. "it's teyvat not real culture?" so why is everyone white? "it's just skin color" so why is everyone white?? how does these answer this question! if you don't care that they're all white then keep it to yourself. but picking white as the "normal" skin tone while the others are barely tan is something people should talk about, whenever it leads to anything or not.
They aren't picking "white" they're picking pale, which china likes, no matter what yall think America and Europe only make up about 20% of the player base
@@cyperianblue416 yeah I meant pale. and the chinese and japanese players are not happy with it, so it doesn't really matter so heavily as you think. if the sales drop drastically because they added more darker skin color based on the nation then frankly i'd be shocked. most of us east asian players wouldn't stop playing just because they added variety. we're not that shallow.
@kageyukiaru I didn't mean to sound rude, what I meant was they aren't going to care what a vocal 5% of the player base thinks if the rest are fine, I'm Hispanic and I personally don't care what skin color the characters are as long as it's a good update
For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction. You are entitled to voice your opinion about these character designs, however others are as well. If they do not share your viewpoint they are perfectly within their right to vocally disagree with you.
Fr she had such a good contrast back then with undertones but now they completely grey scaled her it reminds me of those really bad black foundations that made people furious cuz most poc doesn't have that type of ash skin, there was no effort.
I am AN EGYPTIAN and some genshin characters are middle eastern or egyptians And people say they are whitewashed Bro i am pale af Not everyone is black in middle east so stop please
ok as a yoruba girl , not even i noticed the similarities between olorun and ororon , because of the different design and skin color. hoyo if they're from African there's a 70% chance they're black, u did this with npcs why not playable
When Neuvillette's splash art came out and Ixbalanqué was mentioned, I lost my mind! I was so excited to see my culture in the game, I even re-read my Popol Vuh getting ready to catch all the references in the game! But then I saw Kinich in the trailer and my heart broke. When the vast majority of us are morenos, seeing a white guy representing us just felt out of place. He wasn't even tanned by the sun like my mestizo ass is. It's like I'm back in the school, when they would choose the only white girl in the class to represent us in a contest just because she was the "prettiest", not because she was the best candidate. A couple days ago Kinich's splash art came out and he looks a more tanned. Guess the pressure is slowly getting to them, but the damage is done. At this point, I don't want them to get any revenue from my culture anymore.
Culture isn't about skin tone tho? Natland takes inspiration from the culture, they're not going to take everything. It just a skin color. But I agree, they should add more dark skinned characters. It will make the game better
@@rose_blue1 Yes! I can only speak for Brazil, but as far as I’ve studied in school, a huge portion of Latin American culture literally emerged from miscegenation and society’s structure around it, so in this case, ethnicity plays a huge part in it.
As a latino I can say it's so stupid the fact that they chosed the regions with variety of skins tone from the withers ones to the darkers... And the used only the white ones
I feel like everyone here who's claiming that "It's just a game" and telling people to "stop complaining" are forgetting that people have the right to voice their opinions. Who do you think you are, shushing people when they try to speak up on something that bothers them. It's honestly pathetic. Maybe yall should just take your own advice and ignore the people who speak up about it if it annoys you this much.
No? Since they are the one trying to ruin that game and if don't speak, developers can't know that they are a minority, a lot of these people are just Twitter crybabies and they don't even play this game, like how they don't play, nor watch other stuff that they tried to "boycott"... If they don't like it, they are free to quit or at least to don't pay to get more advantages, since the company isn't going to earn if no one pay anyway.
But people aso have the right to voice their disagreements to others. It’s freedom of speech. Personally as a Mexican I don’t care if my skin color isn’t represented as long as the characters look good I’m fine with whatever skin they have.
@@sirzane5779 the point is: they aren't just expressing an opinion, they are trying to take down a company for the supposed crime of "not being enough enclusive because of a supposed racism" in a game, made by people living in a country where white is always better and people literally kill themself with toxic products to become whiter. How much you think a black character can sell in China?
as a latina with both mexican and guatemalan roots i understand the controversy around the skin color, especially when depicting old civilizations, however personally im just happy that there is any rep of this culture at all, there so much that makes it special besides skin color that so far hoyo is trying to depict correctly. i was completely shocked and excited to see a character with my name (Citlali) in something so popular. Also Citlali is an Aztec name not Hawaiian.
I'm asking this very sincerely, just to preface this, as it could seem somewhat hostile, otherwise. If someone is taking your culture- your stories, your architectural style, your foods, your music- basically *everything except for YOU.* Are they _actually_ representing you? If the people that they are attributing those things don't look like you, or your people who created those things, is it actually representing you? If the only time that they are willing to show the existence of your people who are of darker skin tones is when they are portraying you as being not just being violent and destructive, but as it being *inherently moral to end you,* WHILE they present your culture as being strictly attributed to only a very specific portion of your people, the ones that they go out of their way to portray as being indistinguishable from _how they portray their own people..._ Are they really representing your culture? Or are they taking credit for your culture and saying that _they_ made it, and that any similarities to your culture is coincidental? Can you really that that they're representing your culture if they go out of their way to remove you from it?
Citlalli es estrella en náhuatl. A mi me gustó la representación de genshin impact de mi región, ¿No entiendo porque se molestan las personas de otras regiones??? Soy Latinoamérica y tengo piel blanca y ojos verdes, me veo bien representado por los personajes.
As an african, I really don’t care about all of this, all I want to do is play the game and enjoy it, I wanna use new characters that I care about how their playstyle is not their colour, ofc many other africans and south americans might be disappointed and it’s understandable but I personally don’t even care.
The things is the one who complained about it are Americans, USA to be specific not even south American. The rest who actually tan and from the race the culture from doesn't give a shit about it and just enjoy the game. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Well, Sumeru is okay to me cuz it’s not like everyone has a darker skin tone in India, Western Asia, and Northern Africa but naming a character after a deity in Western Africa and making him white af is genuinely so f**ked up.
I'm Nigerian, and We don't care!!! It's just a Name! Olorun is just the Yoruba name for God! As in CHRISTIAN God!And he has dozens of other names too. Why are you triggered for some random shit? Don't you have better things to worry about?!😂
Why r u people so sensitive about this??? Istg the ONLY people losing their shoes over this are people who ARENT EVEN FROM THE MINORITY. shut tf up!!! Dont speak for them bc from what Ive seen those people r mostly fine with Natlan. As a south asian brown person, I absolutely adored Sumeru, and not to mention its a chinese game from chinese producers and its set in an imaginary land where none of it is actually real. The regions are INSPIRED by these cultures and places, not actually those places. It seems like yall have forgotten that shit.. Also many chinese people, not ALL of them, but many, are not fond of dark skin tones. You guys need to stop whining. Many deity’s names have been used and its never historically accurate (probably bc its a name??) but NOBODY ever talks about that. Yall need reality checks.
@@bunnyx2819you say “we” don’t care but I have seen other people of your culture caring. You don’t care and that’s fine I’m happy if you don’t mind, but other people of these cultures do and to silence them isn’t right.
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"everything would look great in our game.... Except you" that kinda hit ngl
This line hit hard, this could literally be a antagonist line
You right, there's no "YOU" in a FICTIONAL FANTASY game.
@@qizeaqfile this argument again omg.
it's fantasy yes, but why are they using everything from their culture but the people's color? that's REALLY STRANGE
@@qizeaqfileTrue, I belive those people are just way too obsessed with complaining. Like, from the post that I've seen, a lot of them doesn't play the game have a lot of time and are complaining about it.
They can just delete the game if they want to boycott it, or do they have g*ns pointed at them?
Its even worse considering some of the enemies have darker skin than literally any playble character
Thank you. I was looking for this comment.
Fr
@Alka_editsits not fucked up humor its true 😭 theres no other explanation
@Alka_editsyeah they’ll make fun of cultural dancing and singing and details but care about skin color. And they do have Chinese beauty standards which is like the whiter the prettier or something (I don’t know much)
My friend and I watched the trailer together and we’re both pissed when we saw there was no effort put toward making the new characters darker but then they have dark skinned enemies chasing after them >:[
Damn that last comment lowkey hurts ngl 😭😭
issa game
@@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972 and its racism
@@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972And that's real culture.
So guess what? These comments are totally valid.
@@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972based on reality.
@@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972 bro just came back from kindergarten
This whole thing just goes like:
Light skin tones = foreigners saying that it’s racist
Dark skin tones = Chinese player base complaining
This is honestly tough for mihoyo to deal with this
Edit: I feel like majority of the playerbase is chill, it’s just those random ahh people that loves to complain and create controversy, and the worse part is that they get a lot of exposure cause the rest that are fine with it barely spam posts about it
yeah this is just a sticky spot for hoyo. they obviously want money, but no matter what, with this conflicting fan base, people will be angry. i think they went the lightskin route because of how extreme the cn fan base is
cn fan base is absolutely mental
Both actually @@adrianmikulski6845
It‘s their chance to kick-off a change within the CN community
Cn is obviously wrong tho. That's the point
the word “boycott” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here
considering most of the people “boycotting” are still playing genshin…
exactly. boycotting isn’t just not whaling it’s not playing or talking positive about it. playingvthe game gives them money
Another one I've seen is "go f2p" as is most of ya'll weren't doing that already. At the end of the day, the people that complain about it will still go back to playing the game. So how is that gonna make Mihoyo change anything??? They still have their whales and their casuals. They have their income source, so why do they have to change??
@@Vividaeciq-dl9rfthose tweets were directed towards low spenders and whales. We tryna get them to stop spending as well so the income is cut. Alot of giveaway hosts are already stopping doing so and they spend A LOT
@@ICanBeYourFriesReminds me of that Scaramouche fan
@@lolicon453 wait what did they say
Another quote I read said “the Genshin world feels hostile when the only time I see my skin tone is on enemies.” 😕
Absolutely
Hilichurls dance is literally a cultural dance you can look it up.
@@CarrotSpunk.skin tone.SKIN tone.
@@eeeEEEeeeEEEEEE-eeeeeee Skin tone?
@CarrotSpunk. Oh, you mean when there was footage of them using a Native American dance as reference for the hilichurls despite them being inspired from Norse mythology but they use Native American now that they're savages? Yeah as a registered tribe member, I wasn't very happy about that
It hits a bit harder when you see that NPCs, especially enemies, have a larger range of diversity. In Sumeru we have varying skin tones AND hair styles that include locs and cornrows. But they’re all aggressive brutes minus a few “good ones” (Cyno, the one girl at the academia who’s name I can’t remember, Candace, and Dehya) that have to go above and beyond to prove it
Can't forget the Hilichurls who are literally black and are actually 'humans' turned into monsters. That one is the worst for me.
@@punkbunnymama another reason to like Genshin
@@punkbunnymama even better
@@punkbunnymama Hilichurls turned to black doesnt meant they represent ppl from black culture.
Caribert. that quest literally did show he was light skinned when he was human, Heck his DAD too was light skinned. How deep do you wanna reach to paint the "racism" accusation?
whats next?
i agree. It's so disappointing to see people of my skin tone and darker only being brutes and enemies to attack and defeat. Not allies or even main characters to be "the good guys"
Im literally Mexican and my mom is from Mexico and i showed her the Natlan's trailer and she said she was glad to see that they are inspired by the culture of where our family comes from I don't understand the skin color thing considering im Mexican and my dad and mom families come from both mayan and Aztec descent and we aren't that dark like my skin color is literally the same as maulani and the other characters for natlans that people are saying are too light like not everyone in Mexico is that dark like sure some people are but not everyone is super dark skinned if you don't believe me go and see for yourself like people don't look for evidence before they do anything it saddens me what is happening (any hate on my comment will be ignored since I'm only stating my opinion and my perspective)
Sure that's true but it's not just Mexican culture so sure it's mostly south american cultures but the problem is that there are no dark characters they don't all need dark skin but having one or two would be nice
exactly! Not everyone from one culture has to be that skin tone. I’m Asian. No I am not piss-colored. It’s that simple?..
I get what ur saying but thats not the problem, the problem is that there isnt much variation of characters with different skin tones from Natlan that are out yet. They are just saying that itd be nice to have more variation of characters with different skin colors.
Yeah, exactly
yes skin tones vary in these ethnic groups but the issue is there are NO dark skinned playable characters at ALL (do not even try to bring kaeya or xinyan they are both still very light skinned) how are you gonna take inspiration from nigeria country thats majority black and darker skinned but have no character that is actually dark skinned? or borrow inspiration from brazil the country with the largest black diaspora outside africa but not have a character with curly hair or dark skin? nobody is saying ALL the natlan characters have to be a certain skin tone but its insane to take inspiration from cultures so diverse in skin color and features and them not actually represent that
That last part "everything about your culture is beautiful except you" hits so hard. I still don't understand why they can't just do darker skin when they can have the funds for it (and yes, I know about the xenophobia and racism of some CH people, it's kinda hard to not know if you live in SEA countries)
other game developers did it so why can't they?
(not a religious person just a history major lol)
it's the same energy as jesus being portrayed as white person, when the entire bible takes place in mostly desert areas where people are darker skinned.
The fact that it might be based on the fact that some people in China are racist is wild to me
Like imagine if American media stopped having black people because there’s some states with a lot of racists.
Not to excuse their racism, but it’s definitely a minority of people.
Literally the Chinese are pissed about it too 😭😭
I think its mainly hoyoverse, other games with global audiences despite the countrys rooted racism still include diffrent skin tones for all types of players. Biggest example i could think of is love nikki which is a chinese dress up game
Its a damn game its not a big deal
@@shiny3chariotInteresting... you have a source you could share?
Honestly these characters color pallettes would def benefit from darker skin tone that leopard girl looks amazing darker
Fr
I think mualani with a dark tan would be so cool
Kachina with that skin tone shown in the video is so pretty
That one lion girl would look so stunning with dark skin
It’s sad to see the lack of representation
No tf she wouldn't.@@Blu3M00NS
@@Blu3M00NSI heard that Mualani is actually kinda accurate. :3 It's chasca that's doing it for me 😭
@@audrey8153 Mualani actually has some Pacifika stereotypes.
@@localaxolotl2842 How...? Can you please explain.. 🤔
There’s such a discrepancy between the skin tone and color palette that I refuse to believe the initial intention was for the characters to be light skinned. There has to be something going on between the designers and the higher ups because it just doesn’t make sense from an artistic perspective.
Very long edit so read it or cry about it: since several people are still disagreeing and being absolute bootlickers, let me spell it out for you word for word and make it longer than it needs to be because you guys can’t take the dамn hint.
You cannot take inspiration from a real life culture but completely exclude the people, who are the foundation of it. A culture is nothing without its people and I guarantee you that the vast majority of South Africans/Aztecs are NOT pasty white. This is extremely disrespectful and unprofessional of miHoYo. Sumeru was easier to pass off because Middle Eastern populations ARE generally lighter/medium skinned (Nilou-Iran, Cyno-Egypt, Tighnari/Layla-Arab, etc. you’d be surprised but they are more medium than dark because people frequently wear robes to protect from the sun) but even then there was brief controversy over skin tone and even Candace upon her release because the devs named her the anglicized version of the original name, Kandake. But there is no excuse for predominantly dark skinned populations from South Africa/the Aztec. Even Chinese players are boycotting Genshin and demanding diversity. So being a Chinese company is no excuse for MiHoYo to be whitewashing culture inspired characters to fit their racism. Look at Iansan, Xinyan, look at the enemies in Sumeru, concept art, they are all proof that Genshin is perfectly capable (both physically and financially) of designing and rendering characters who are dark skinned. There is no excuse for this.
Yeah like I saw a version where they have more melanin and it actually looks good and fits their designs better. More and more I describe to the theory that they wanted to add dark characters but were stopped or something.
Edit: This is the most likes I've ever gotten on a comment. I don't wanna be that guy, but thanks.
Edit 2: 1k likes is crazy. Thanks guys.
THIS
@@jaspercat6407what's happened to Venti
@@localchibigameuser9732 the CCP passed a law that forbid femboy, androginous or femminine male in chinise videogame. They actually used a Pic of venti as evidence (i would like to remind you that venti human form Is based on a young, likely barely teen, Bard) .
Hoyo in all their complaince made gorou
@@Zankyo137 that doesn't make sense what-their are still so many femboys still being released today in genshin cast
I find it annoying that our darkest character is Keaya and he’s from germany(mondstatd) even deyha isn’t that dark
Kaeya is from khaenriah
@@okthen716 yea Ik but my point still stands
Xinyan?
Eh
Its just a game
Why would i care about skin tone of fictional character Except when joking about it
it’s bad enough that they’re not representing darker skin tones… but to name characters after literal DEITIES and white wash them?? eventually players will start associating those names with genshin characters rather than the gods behind the name and it’s almost like erasing the cultures used for hoyoverse’s “inspiration”
Plus the fact the enemies have more melanin… like, I’m white as fuck and some of these guys are literally paler than me. Hoyoverse needs to do better.
@@SheepyBo1as someone from Scotland, yea, these MFers are whiter than me and most of the folks I know. In fact, the UK seems more diverse than the Hoyo cast 😭😭 and that's insane to me
Why do people get offended from videogames, it's not even your culture, gind me an aztec guy and ask him if he's offended
@@Gobbuz theres a ton... you can see them everywhere.
@@halmittens a ton of American people being offended for other cultures.. As usual.
the “boycott” is slowly dwindling tho, i checked twitter’s trending page and it isnt even there for me anymore, ppl WILL forget and end up spending money on the characters.
Always happens. At the end of the day, it's an anime game with a money hungry company.
@@ICanBeYourFries yep, I think this will blow over in a couple weeks- or when Natlan releases unfortunately.
@@Eli-uu8hc good because it was stupid to begin with
I may seem ignorant, but I have no intention of boycotting this game. I would understand if Hoyoverse whitewashed some historical figure and players didn't like it. Moreover, there are slightly darker characters in the trailer (a girl at the beginning and later a little girl). Or maybe it's because I live in a country that has never colonized or treated people of different skin colors badly. At the end of the day, it's just a video game with a fictional world. And when it comes to culture, it can be processed creatively. In God of War Ragnarök Angrboda has black skin, although the game is based on Norse mythology, this change did not bother me. The anime Record of Ragnarök retold the story of Adam and Eve expulsion from paradise and it didn't bother me either.Don't Americans do the same thing, only in a much more serious way? Do you remember repainting Cleopatra (a historical figure)?
@@sciencewithfun2052 It wasnt stupid pipe down
I also noticed that hoyoverse had a horrible habit of making almost all of the enemies and bad characters dark skinned in the sumeru storylines. At one point i was actually able to predict that the characters i had just ran into would secretly be evil because of the fact that they had darker skin, and i ended up being right :(
Literally the villain of the whole sumeru arc is light skin...
@@玉兔-q4i yeah but I was mentioning a handful of quests, I never mentioned the main storyline (I didn't mean to come off as rude, sorry if I did)
@@NootNoot127 As with everything accusation without context will only lead to misunderstanding just like the accusation that the traveler is g**ocide crazy person
tbh the Eremites are all brown because they live under the scorching sun of the desert. Dehya doesn't spend as much time under the sun, apparently and Candace is the darkest playable sumeru character because she's under the sun all day
Also most characters are still based on a previous game so obviously the skin color will be brought along
But apparently you don’t mind the fact the ‘totally not Russians’ are one of the main antagonistic factions for most of the game. Perfectly fine to always portray the Eastern Europeans as evil and slaughter them by the hundred but black people? Nah black people are incapable of being evil, should never be the enemy even if the game takes place in a dessert.
I came from the future to say that the boycott failed miserably.
Fr 😂 half of them probably went and pulled the characters they were so angry about lmao
As a mexican, I'm not offended but disappointed. In the latino community I've seen three main arguments justifying this, and I don't agree with any of them.
1. "Not all latinos are brown". Which is true however NOT ALL LATINOS ARE WHITE AS PAPER EITHER. It's a 50/50 (more like a 80/20 in favor of the dark skin but I'll be generous) but every character is super pale.
2. "It's the beauty standard. A brown/black character wouldn't be attractive". This is just pure bs. Nesa from Pokemon, Karin from Blue Archive, Ramlethal from Xrd, Claude and Timerra from Fire Emblem, etc. All of them are super attractive if you ask me.
3. "Hoyo is a chinese company so being racist is normal for them". I think it's more racist to think that every chinese person is racist lol
*Since some people can't read: I'm talking about the arguments I often see and why I don't agree with them, not about if hoyo is doing wrong or not. We all know hoyo didn't think too much about it, they did what they did because they can do whatever they want and it will still sell
I totally agree with ya, its odd seeing hoyo not making more dark skinned "playable" characters when the whole point of genshin was diverse culture in the game. And many other gacha games having much darker skinned characters. Really disappointing indeed...
@@Nyans
Culture =/= race. I see your point, but it's a bad argument.
But the issue with the races you said is none of them were created by china. Your argument isn't representative of the creators. You should find a mihoyo or chinese dark skinned popular character. Not a japanese or korean made one.
@@furyberserk my point is that black/brown characters can be attractive but fine, Reverse 1999 Centurion, she is brown, attractive, by a chinese company and also happens to be a mexa character (insert El Jarabe Tapatío here 🇲🇽)
@@furyberserk im actually korean and i can tell that all china, korea, japanese beauty standards are pretty much the same. More pale skin = beauty.
Also i did not really specify but what i meant was taking culture from the people and not putting any character that the people of culture can relate to is disappointing. (And yes many latinos are white but brown latinos do exist too, ive seen few comments of brown latinos sharing some disappointment too)
The worst part is that, they DID black characters for Natlan! You know.... the enemies mobs... that we have to defeat to get drops...
They always make it the enemy. It’s literally the equivalent of them downright calling us that.
There has been leaked photos of not enemy NPC's who also have black skin. Not 100% confirmed ofc since it could have been edited.
Maybe uninstall the games if you want to boycott hoyoverse so much. 😂
Bro no one gives a shit if a character is black or white they're just some pixels on ur screen.
Why y'all care so much abt skin color smh just focus on playing
This COMPLETELY converted me to the Natlan issue. I thought it was like "Oh whatever, it's just the design, it's inspired by and not just taken" but like
That last quote really put it in perspective for me
But when you realize that barely anyone from said culture cares. But when you realize the only ones leading this 'boycott' are Americans who should be minding their own business. But when you realize that hoyoverse doesn't care unless it's cn or jp players complaining which they aren't because they wouldn't like it if characters had darker skin colors.
@@Sampoforeverrrr a TON of people from said culture care. There has been soooooo many videos, tweets, tiktoks etc etc from people from said culture talking and explaining their disappointment in hoyo since before sumeru came out. try to hear the people whose culture are being picked and choose from hoyo, rather than generalize them to "americans"
@@hoof6233 alrighty, but hoyoverse has the support of the chinese government. The government who literally does basically everything they want. (take indian lands, claim SEA marine territories, claim taiwan, monopolize africa) so... I don't really think these people from said culture can change anything. Not tryna be mean, just being truthful. So maybe they should remember that it's just a pixel game and maybe touch grass. Or maybe if they don't like it, try to make your own game including chinese culture and make everyone black.
@@Sampoforeverrrr "Not tryna be mean" Proceeds to say touch grass and it's just a game bro. Not tryna be mean, but are you on the spectrum?
@@UngaBunga468 I'm just saying these people could do much better things than trying to change literal pixels on a chinese game. If you don't like it, literally just delete the game and play something else instead of 'boycotting' it even though they're just gonna pull for mavuika anyway because her story is amazing or something. Mind you, boycott means to withdraw relations which is clearly bullshit knowing these 'boycotters' are probably doing their dailies right now.
Can we all just appreciate Genshin for once??? Like I get the skin colors aren’t that open but the character designs are sick 😭
Fr
Nah
I remember seeing a comment that said, “So they can take inspiration from real life places but not skin color?” Which I think highlights the issue here. If you are saying they should not take inspiration from real people/gods but they should for real life places we got a problem on our hands.
Edit: also why are so many people saying that black people wouldn’t fit into the world of Genshin? I have seen genshin ocs look more like a genshin characters than ACTUAL genshin characters.
Edit 2: well then this got a lot of people talking. Also to the people that are saying “you just have to wait” please don’t say that. It’s been 4 YEARS and you’re telling me to still wait?
by the quote it means that out of everything, hoyo can’t even represent darker people. Ur ocs are probably GORGEOUS and i’m so glad they have melanin unlike everyone in genshin 😭😭
Ikr. Wish they would make black eoiple for Genshin. But that was a pipe dream
Saying that darker skinned skined characters don't fit in a game with fucking dragons, gods and magic is crazy, like bro is it illegal to acknowledge the existence of people with darker skin color?
Tbh they don't have to acknowledge anything I'm a person of color and I really don't care what they do because the game is fun and that's all that matters
teyvat is a made up continent, its not an accurate portrayal, to be honest, my opinion is if natlan was apart of teyvat, people in nearby nations would have darker skin, which they dont, plus not all of the characters in the game have been advertised, there are most likely darker skinned characters that they havent advertised, so we'll just have to wait and see.
It feels like I’m in a infinite loop at this moment like in every god damn update the same type of Drama happens with the same type of conclusion *Nothing changes*
Yeah just a typical Genshin fandom that never satisfied with their game
@@Fetchu69Ah yes, it's the fan's fault, not because the company refuses to change
@@BaileyZKyes it is the fans fault cause alot of people you know...Can separate reality from fiction and know the differences between interpretation and recreation. Most people just wanna enjoy a game and before you bring skin tone up as cy yu said a Latino would it be nice to have this? Yes. Is it a huge deal like twitter makes it out to be? No.
Have you ever seen how much media takes culture and bends it to their own design but people won't complain especially if the character is black washed cause then you'll be deemed the bad guy. And if you asked people what's more important a skin tone or a 3rd end game mode with quality of life features it's obvious what the vast majority of People are gonna keep wanting and asking for
@@BaileyZKYou mean changing the whole game for many millions of people just to accommodate a small group of complainers?
@@teddyisaliar271lmao you do not live in the real world.
The problem I feel is that it's not just all of this, but knowing hoyoverse can and has done darker skin tones. if it didn't "fit" with the character aesthetic they wanted, they could of changed them. It doesn't have to be every character and npc in Natlan, but if it is an area with more sun exposure, it makes sense that there would be more darker skin tones.
Good point but also, if the character is darker, you cannot see him in the Chasm or like if you have low Lumi
@@elhosteThat applies to if the characters skin were super white in brighter settings.
@@elhosteim pretty sure you can still see the other colours the character has on their design but i also think you understood the comment wrong too lol
@@elhostebro is quite racist, but im sure they not making the Character skin that dark (probably just tan)
Wonder how many people complained about blonde haired, blue eyed inazumans…? Crickets?
To take inspiration from vs to be based on. There's a difference.
Citali is not hawaiian, her name is aztec. Mualani does have hawaiian inspiration... but nobody has pointed out that her splash art title is "Meztli guide" which is also aztec. At this point Natlan is 80 percent mesoamerica and 20 percent everywhere else.
Edit: They leaked the plants, food and weapons from this region. While the weapons scream aztec, the rest have origins from pretty much everywhere in present day LATAM.
She accidentally switched them around
It’s kinda insulting tbh like saying all these indigenous cultures r the same so might as well pull from Māori and Aztec cultures even tho they have literally nothing in common 💀
I mean they kinda did the same with fontaine, it's not only french, u can see they pulled bits and pieces from all over europe.
@@cloin6If I may.
it may be possible that they're basing the six tribes on six different groups in the Americas.
And Hawaii is lipped in cause it's a state
When you realize where alhaithams name comes from...
Citlali is also named after the godess of stars Citlalicue
But at least here, in Mexico it is also a name that is sometimes used. So a white person can't have that name?
Pretty sure it's a common name in Mexico?
@@gong-hl7fw yes ik! My cousin is named that. I’m just telling its origin
@@gong-hl7fw Yes, I have met several people who have that name, maybe it is not so common, but it is usually used
I was a little confused because Citlali isn’t Hawaiian 😅 but Mualani is even tho she’s not mentioned here
Meanwhile, in less than 24 hours, Hoyo reverted Neuvillette's spin to win after CN players reported the fix as consumer fraud.
It's been almost 2 weeks since "Natlan Boycott" began and Hoyo has not said a word, do you know how comical is that? It's pure gold
to be fair, they fixed it so fast because it's illegal and players could sue them. i do think it's funny tho, this isn't even the first time there's been a boycott and hyv is doing nothing about it
@@rokatao probably because they can’t, think about it, have you ever heard of Chinese media having good POC rep? Hoyo is already pushing it with heavily implied queer rep like Kavetham and beiguangg
@@Pindie12321 last time i checked, dislyte, a chinese game had 19 dark characters. it was released in 2022 as well so genshin had a 2 year headstart, yet that's not even half of what dislyte has. what makes you think they can't do it?? they absolutely can, they just don't want to
@@rokatao 1. Dislyte hardly as popular as genshin therefor the Chinese government doesn’t care as much about what they do
2. It’s also because hoyo is a major company and you cant avoid corruption in the higher ups when you’re that big so yes they don’t want to but they also would get a lot of sh!t from the government.
3. At the end of the day we still got cultural rep and sorta-queer rep and that probably all we’ll ever get so it’s better than nothing
That simply means that not a lot of the CN community is upset with Natlan designs. If they were, and I mean a vast majority online Genshin players, not simply a few, Hoyoverse would be scrambling to rectify it, even tho it would take more time to alter character designs.
Why is it always Europeans and people from the US getting offended? Get a life. I am Mexican, the Aztecs and Mayans were located in parts of Mexico. Why did these cultures first think when Spaniards arrived??? They thought they were “gods” because of their skin and shinning armor. Now, let us assume that did not happen, were Mayans and Aztecs really that “high in melanin”? Furthermore, (in the case of cultures that established in what is now Mexico) are Mexicans (basically heirs of these cultures) really that “high in melanin”? You are all getting offended for something that does not even offends us.
simple, Americans and Europeans with thier colonial/savior complex
While the chinese players say that if their skin tone is darker they would look ugly or wouldnt pull for them...
This is just sad.
No they don’t. The Chinese players don’t think any of this and they are asking for more melanin bro 😭
Call me racist but i really like the game as it is especially Natlan and Sumeru
Please hoyo don't change the current characters skin tone.. if u want to then do it with future characters...but don't change skin tone of existing characters...just give new clothes/skins that will apply on the skin surface so as to change their skin tone...that will be a win win situation for everyone...
Hey i have an idea...just give a limited event skin to natlan and sumeru characters with their re run
@@jarvis_plays622 I agree with this. I like the character designs how they are because they already look really good.
@@jarvis_plays622they’d look better with darker skin tones homie.
Honestly, as a Latina, what hurts the most is seeing that we’re so used to being misrepresented, that most of us just don’t care and want to play the game. I’m hurt, but not surprised. Genshin has brought me a whole community of diverse people, that will stay when the game ends. So that’s that.
Choose your battles wisely, y’all. Sadly, growing up in a colonized country/culture has given us a hard shell: few things break us, some battles are long lost. So we just try not to care. At least many of us get to fully experience our culture in real life right now.
welcome to the double standard world 😁😁😁
It is gust a game
To much yapping
@@masel5841 too much yapping???, i think you must say, too much braincells that died in your old factory brain 😂😂😂
It didn't claimed to be south America is they not? Yall bulshitting it called Natlan cuz its a freaking fantasy place. Grow up
The last tweet hit hard tbh
I hate Twitter cancelations, but this one has a great massive point I can't ignore
@@sussanhurtado8259 The sad part is that this also already happened back in Sumeru, but was largely ignored or forgotten about when the Fatui trailer came out. In the end nothing was done and people continued on as if nothing happened.
Natlan's is gaining more traction because 1) big EN VAs are speaking out about this, and 2) mainstream media coverage. Even some people from the CN community are criticizing it, but probably not enough to warrant Hoyo's attention. I'm holding out a faint hope that things change, but unless people realise that to boycott means to stop playing all Hoyo games entirely, I doubt anything will change.
So, natlan, being similar to their inspirations, being a fantasy game, and the guy thinks he is supposed to be represented, when the people are very diversed, and knowing that what caused racism long ago was generalisation of cultures trough skin color? No bruh
@@KermitSFGosh Genshin must be suck in designing black and tan skin coloured characters compared to Reverse 1999 and Dyslite huh???
Seeing between design and story, Genshin flops hard... like an oatmeal skin colours lmafo
@truelyme0 thank you for bringing up that amazing game. Their designs are far better than anything that hoyoverse could ever release😂😂
@@truelyme0 ah, but doesn't dysilote use real characters? I thought yall that was the whole point of the game, that it has espers that are greek gods, etc. Bruh
Not a day the genshin fandom doesn't cry about skin colours
And they then decide to nerf Neuvillette after a year
I don't think this is excusable and they should really take notice
Is it really a nerf his damage is the exact same
What happened to neuvillette?
ive heard they nerfed him because there was a character in natlan with a similar kit so players would pull for that character instead of sticking with neuvi
@@CloverTheFirst5just his spin of death is no more
@@CloverTheFirst5 well, he can't spin-to-win anymore
Last quote made my heart break.
This is such a huge issue that’s being passed by so many because “it’s just a Chinese company” or “Asia just views darker skin as dirty, so of course this would happen!” Adding darker skin genuinely would help solve these issues slowly, but surly. It’s such a shame that those with darker skin who rightfully complain are being hit with the hate they tried to escape from, by the community/developers they loved.
Background music song?
Now that they say Asia just view darker skin is dirty is actually make me offended, those mfker never come to Asia countries to say that shit
For god's sake, again, why do you want to have this "culture" stuff from a fcking "WORK OF FICTION"?
"fiction anime game"
think its a little naive to think they want to change that . why would hoyo care to change? clearly they still make billions without rep so im confused why yall think they care. they do not care and they will never care. they dont want to help make a change because change doesnt make them as much money.
yall still played the game even after all the sumeru outrage, this shit happens time and time again and yall have proven to hoyo that they dont need to change
A cn player talking about this subject put it very well, “Conversely, everyone would likely not tolerate a work that prides itself on Chinese elements being filled with characters who have dark skin and thick lips or blonde hair and blue eyes.”
Even the player base that people assume “wouldn’t want characters of color” want Natlan characters to represent the culture they were inspired by. This game is played by people all over the world. There’s no harm in letting people see themselves in the in the media that they adore. There is harm in saying you want to show all sorts of different cultures from the real world in your game and then doing the exact opposite of that.
Anime characters don't have race! None of the Liyue characters match IRL people. Do you think IRL people have those kinds of hair colors, eyes, body and skin color?? If they made dark Liyue characters there is no problem (xinyan,hello??), there are people of various colors in china, it's only a problem if they claim the character's race is something else. But Teyvat people don't have earth races, so it's never a problem. Same reasoning, natlan skin color shouldn't tie to real world, there is no Asian/African/caucasian etc race in the fantasy, not to mention they already made natlan darker than other regions.
You shouldn't cherry pick a comment and claim it's what the whole country thinks. A country being that big you are bound to find one that agrees with you, also some outside person can easily plant that.
Umm... what the fu-
@@Sky-rw5vqhey girlie, shut up! Race is a thing in anime, and if someone is going to take from a culture, they should include the people of said culture bc it's just a nice thing to do.
@@Cometsarecool so now it's them "taking" from a culture just because the shade of skin is not correct to you. Their goal is noble, to celebrate various cultures, but all of that effort and good will is thrown in the trash just because skin is not dark enough. There is nothing special about these cultures that Hoyo must use them as inspiration. But once Hoyo uses them all of a sudden names and cultures nobody knew or care about become famous as if it's Hoyo riding on their fame and not the other way around...
This is Teyvat, not Earth! Race makes no sense. Give anyone a character without the tell of the regional clothing I guarantee you they can't tell the "race". Giving them a darker shade is already making a distinction. Do you think all of China/Japan/Europe are porcelain white? It's not supposed to be accurate to real life.
@@Sky-rw5vq just say you're racist and quite picketing
You're riding so hard for this company that doesn't care about you, I almost think you're getting paid
Twitter always finds something to cry about
Its crazy to think Xinyan probably has the darkest skin tone in the game of all the playable characters... And after this update, will still likely have the darkest skin tone in the game (or will be one of maybe two or three with that skin tone and still not really have anything deeper toned below it)
Mihoyo has the range of most beauty companies' actually decent foundation colors on their characters
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for????
Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
And then they gave her the worst fucking accent 😂 I always die laughing when I hear her talk like she’s from texas
@@rrxphvel871 EXACTLY! I DISLIKED IT SO MUCH THAT WHEN I DO MATERIAL FOR HER IN GAME I GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF CHANGING THE VA LANGUAGE.
No disrespect to the voice actor at all, but it was just... Such a weird choice?? Like, oh yeah, everyone won't have heavy accents...
But this girl? Yeah. She's gonna be yeehaw beehaw central. This coming from someone who lives in the South, and knows a lot of people with southern accents and even has the yee yee come out when angry.
@@numerous_bees4224 yee yee😭. I did zhe same thing hahaha, when she was participating in events I just switched to japanese, still like her as a character tho.
@@rrxphvel871 I know! I really like her as a character, especially since pyro is my main element of choice! (Electro being my second... Overload my beloved
As an East African, I’ve noticed a detail in Genshin. In the Mondstadt quest for Hillichurlian languages, the language spoken is eerily similar to Kiswahili (an East African language)
There was also that incident with the behind the scenes studio tour that they made where it showed a worker modeling the hilichurls dance after indigenous peoples dances and it got so bad that they had to completely remove that video
@Pindie12321, as an African American, that's genuinely unsettling
Thats.... jeez. Im speechless.
That's straight up horrible what the hell...
@@zen0siria512ikr
The boycott honestly won’t do shit, if people are genuinely serious, then they should just stop playing entirely.
that's literally what the word boycott means
@@lemin0u Exactly tho, that’s what they’re not doing, they’re just going F2P (not that they were the whales in the first place) and claim they’re boycotting
@@lemin0uyes, but the dummies think that not paying for a game is boycotting. THAT’S NOT HOW BOYCOTTING A GAME WORKS
My skin tone is dark because I works under sunlight and I dont give a damn about video games. Just play the game. Its not that serious. Honestly, hoyoverse shouldn't even include dark characters. No kids cry. Problem solved.
@@adamharries610@adamharries610 Hi, this isn't about you and your opinion. Hope this helps. I'm from sid culture natlan is based on and I find it extremely disrespectful to whitewash a god's appearance like thatI'
It's pixels on a screen people just hate on anything possible. Too much hate in the world.
As a Mexican born and raised in Mexico, I normally feel Americans (both white and second gen immigrants) tend to exaggerate cultural appropiation or representation issues a little bit. However, this is not it. I was so excited about Natlan representing Mexico's native people before colonization, and although the culture is beautifully represented, its dissapointing seeing these characters be this pale. Saddest thing is, in the Latinoamerican/Mexican side of social media, people (a lot, if not most) are trying to defend Hoyoverse, claiming that Latinoamericans come in all colors. While this is absolutely TRUE now, it wasn't true before colonizers took power in our countries, which is what Natlan was supposed to represent :/
Edit: in the video it says Citlali is a Hawaiian name but Citlali is actually a very common name in Mexico which comes from Nahuatl!
I just want like a 50/50 of skins lol- like not everyone black not everyone white just, like, real life. Everyone mixed lol
It's a bit strange because it's supossed to be based on the time before colonation but there are many modern elements, like the archon glasses and cloth, so I'm not that sure.
Yo voy a esperar a que salga Natlan y saber más sobre la historia y ver más personajes, porque en Sumeru por ejemplo anunciaron primero los personajes de la selva y luego cuando llegaron los del desierto resulta que todos los del desierto eran de piel oscura.
A mí me encantaría q cada tribu de Natral (q son 6) tenga características diferentes al basarse en muchas culturas (Latam precolombina, parte de África, Australia, por lo q he leido)
Saludos desde Uruguay 😁
I agree with you, I'm Central American so while I am fit under mayan culture. And it sucks that they're isn't more melanin in the game , everytime they ask what they can do better, I literally emphasize on this everytime.. but after seeing the trailer, I don't think I can keep on playing because it is just repetitive. By this point. :/...
@@ticholopeluche esperemos que al menos la historia haga que valga la pena igual que sumeru >_
@@mrrrrrrrrrr Sí, ojalá, Sumeru es mi región favorita en cuanto a historia y mapa. Yo voy a esperar a q salga para formar mi opinión. Generalmente los personajes q salen en los trailers son los q te encontrás al principio y luego vas conociendo más personajes.
To be honest I didn't think race was such a problem in genshin games, but the more characters get added the more the patterns start becoming clearer.. The only two black characters we have currently are both Pyro Claymore and both are considered to be the worst characters in the game
Kaeya: 👁️👄👁️
Candezz :👁️👄👁️
I don't want Dehya recolor, I want her damage buff so she can be better.
@@phnguyen81 oh right i forgor
@@vividsts5057 cyno be like -
Citlali is also a common indigenous Aztec name in Mexico!! I was so excited for Hoyo to have a region and characters after some of my culture but they disappointed..
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for????
Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
After all it's a Cn game mostly targeting the Cn market, and the beauty standards there are mostly pale skin. They sell characters to make money, so they'll lean into whatever designs bring them more.
Its not just because of "natlans trailer". This is something that has been an issue for ages across ALL HYV games. Natlans trailer is the straw that has broken the camels back.
We had this issue in genshin since Sumeru
In fact, in the Sumeru desert we had some darker-skinned characters (Cyno, Candace, Dehya, Sethos for example, who are descendants from the desert), while the other part of the region is rainforests, and in fact, it isn’t common for people from there to have darker skin. The issue with it is that we don’t have that much characters from the desert and we should’ve gotten more, but with other characters (not only in the rest of Sumeru, but in other regions as well) their white skin color is actually based on real history. Like, there almost weren’t any darker-skinned people in Germany, China or Japan at the medieval times. So the complaints about Natlan characters are reasonable, but about other regions - no, they are not (except complaining about a lack of characters from Sumeru desert)
please explain, what's wrong with sumeru?
@@actualzelda people complain about the forest are full of white people instead of tan. And desert should be darker skinned
The way I see it, is that the forest, in lore, has so much shade that it just blocks sunlight a lot.
@@actualzelda alot of things
Firstly is the blatant colourism, many of the playable characters were neon white ESPECIALLY nahida despite their names coming from famous historical figures (e.g. Ibn-Alhaytham, Al-Tighnari, Dihya, Kandake,etc.)
Next is the orientalism, hyv created the character as a crucature of the harmful stereotype of arabs and indians by making her a scammer and greedy, she was also a very messy character design as she has multiple cultures kixed in tgth instead of one much like other characters, she even draws inspo from aladdin which is an extremely bad orientalist depiction
Next is the enemies/eremites being more darker than the playable characters, the remites were also described as "barbaric" and were called many names by other ingame characters
And then nahida,nahida was named after a persian goddes and had many inspirations from other spirits and beings that were undoubtedly NOT as pale as nahida is ingame and in her drip marketing
@@eternity6856This, exactly this. People complain about Natlan like it's the first time they ignored people with darker skin tones. But this has been going on for so long..
Though, deep down we all know it's not just Genshin. It kinda is Anime in general...
Some people have resorted to calling US the racists for wanting proper representation after they literally take our deities, gods and historical figure’s names and our cultures for their game while leaving our appearances out the picture. Some people are saying “they don’t have to be accurate it’s their own vision of the game” while the literal mob npcs do have ethnic features such as dreads and locs while being from the same region. Literal proof that their “vision” does include what we wanted to see more of, but will never be on playable characters.
It’s so obvious that they’re doing this because of colourism and even some racism, but for some reason us pointing that out always results in “it’s just a game/it’s a fantasy game” as if fiction has never affected reality before/ as if fiction doesn’t reflect reality. The game was made by real people, so regardless of it being a game those individuals still chose to be disrespectful towards us and keep us out, insinuating that we don’t belong in their game.
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for????
Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
@@Dedddedddde”you’re tying to recognize the past struggles and continued struggles against a certain group of people even though you aren’t part of it? It’s not your culture to look at,racist bitch.” -something some twitter user would say
@@Dedddedddde
It's racist to live by stereotypes and think that the only form of representantation that exist is skin color, so yeah.. they're (boycotters) ironically being racists
Some people might take you seriously... except... Have you ever been to China? Japan? Asia in general?
You might notice the overwhelming abundance of darker skinned and tanned people, and yet.... nobody is complaining about light-skinned characters.
Also, since you've decided to talk about *Enemies,* Let's talk about enemies shall we?
Let's focus on the *Humanoid* ones:
*-* There are 12 kinds of Fatui enemies, *9 of which* are light-skinned;
*-* There are 11 kinds of Treasure Hoarder enemies, *ALL of which* are light-skinned;
*-* There are 12 kinds of Eremite enemies, *5 of which* are light-skinned;
*-* And there are 5 Weekly Bosses who have a Humanoid form, *ALL of which are light-skinned.*
*Have you seen anyone complain about that?*
As per the leaked info we have thus far on Natlan, while some enemies have been shown to possess some physical attributes drawn from the same culture Natlan was inspired from, there has also been many NPCs from different cities/tribes possessing those attributes.
Let's not pretend Hoyoverse is only painting such characters as Bad/Negative and using them as enemies.
That would be unwise.
@@ElTestok but the MAJORITY of the DARKSKINNED people in genshin don’t matter to the story or are enemies
I’m torn on this issue, because the same thing happened in Sumeru, but contrary to what we (middle and south easterners) expressed. For Sumeru, the issue was that many people wanted the stereotypical ‘Ayayayayayaa’ turban and hijab wearing, camel riding, stereotypical ‘Arab’ and we don’t all look like that. We’re not all dark skinned. A lot of us appreciated more focus on the culture (arts, scholarly academics, food, etc) than depicting the stereotypes that made people comfortable in their virtue signaling.
With Natlan though, I do feel the skin tones could be more representative. The peoples of South America and the islands do also vary in skin tone, but it feels obtuse to paint them all white.
At the same time, it’s a pixelated game in a fantasy world and like, can we put this much effort into real life activism for the peoples everyone’s harping on about here…?
Turban*
It being a game doesn't excuse anything talking about this is issue talking about real issues because the problem here is COLORISM and Whitewashing of real poc people and dietys which is a real world issue. If they didn't want to add people with darker skin then why base the areas in game off areas that are known for having people with darker skin tones. No one would be this upset or calling hoyoverse out if they didn't start playing with others culture and religions. If they didn't want to include people with darker skin they shouldn't have included their culture.
Yeah, to be honest. It's just a game that people gets worked up on, while I understand the issue, a game is a game, a fantasy one at that.
Is it supposed to have effort into representing the people and not just it's culture? Or have their own cultures that are based/inspired on irl culture and have it's own people?
I may be wrong on that, although I do think that protesting over a game is.. Childish? To say the least, it's a game, not irl.
@@NovaAndStaryes. There should be effort into it if they decide to take parts of people's cultures. People are sick of having their cultures used instead of represented, and that's what this is an example of. Especially so when without the people, the culture would die. The people are just as important, if not moreso than what they're deciding to use in their game, especially since they're monetizing off of it.
@@NovaAndStar I think you guys are focusing way too much on the representation aspect and not enough on the fact that hoyoverse whitewashed multiple real deitys. They based these characters off of real gods this like taking Zues or Jesus and suddenly making them black. They did not have to base these areas off of real culturesthey did not have to base these characters off of real gods. they could've easily just made up areas or based them off their own culture but they chose to this route. the people are the most important part of culture because at the end of the day it simply would not exist without them so if you're not representing the people you aren't representing the culture.
The Boycott is BS, good thing Hoyo isn't giving in
“Oh it’s because there a asian company” when literally there’s so many Asian companies that do have black characters that are popular and not only black characters but so much more 😭
It's because gacha games are really popular in China, like, 60% of the money comes from chinese players (ig)
Bro their other game honkai star rail has more darker skin characters
@@Kai_D3n Arlan and Nanook? Two?
@@ItzFedenka yupp
literally pokemon is a prime example
a chinese player has said the words "they can't even represent asians right" and that is so true
i dont think south asians or japanese/chinese ppl r that very pale.... 😓😓😓
Keyword, "A chinese player" "A" ... A single one 😂😂😂
@@xLuis89xwhats the point of your comment
@@xLuis89x yes thats what they said, i think we can all read
I’m Chinese (my entire family is) and I think they’re representing Chinese just fine. I showed a few Liyue Genshin characters to my mother, who was born in China and has all her relatives Chinese, and she says the game did a very good job at representing Chinese cultures. Some Chinese families have different opinions but I think they at least did Liyue right.
Im just gonna call it. The moment Natlan releases, people are gonna spend and get the characters and slowly stop caring about this "controversy" because hyv didn't listen
That will happen but it *can* just be a bias btw. Things will always inevitably calm down because the people who are pissed leave and so it can *seem* like it just blew over and no one ever actually cared enough to do anything about it, when... they did what people say you need to do it and just stopped playing and talking about the game.
This can seem even more like the case because content creators and pretty much every other *visible* player will NOT leave the game even if they criticise because... Duh, it's their jobs. That doesn't mean they '"shill"', just that it's not so casual a thing to just leave and also often they can do more by staying and using their visibility to be critical when appropriate.
@@BaileyZKbut again it just shows people don't care enough and this virtue signalling is pointless. We enjoy games we don't need this whining skin colour for the sakes of skin colour cause then you'll probably get mad still cause you ain't done justice. Look at GTA SA why is that game so beloved is it cause of the mostly black characters? No it's cause the story and gameplay is good and whilst Carl is a criminal he is relatable, likeable enjoying to watch and play. And that is at the end of the day the vast majority of players will care about. And honestly if they do leave...good we can then maybe get a better reputation of the constant complainers about every little thing
Yeah you’re probably right. The same exact thing happened with the three wishes thing. Everyone was saying don’t spend money, they’re being disrespectful to their player base. But Xianyun (I believe) still made a lot of money during that time
@@Neo-o people are people they have free will and like it or not a company doesn't have to obey what we say and if people really cared enough they would have kept it going but just gotta ask tho how many people actually stuck to it for longer then a day?
Imo the boycoting is stupid
Im brown skin mexican, i want everyone knows and focus to learn about small hints of my indigenous culture, architecture, music and traditions. Not focusing if my skin is dark or not. Skin color is meaningless.
I was expecting the pyro archon to be the only tanned archon. but guess what, all white
So....Dehya?
@@Coldboi-rc4sb I kinda like her tho
But aren‘t they tanned?
@@ShortcakeSweetstuffgenshin’s definition of tanned is very disappointing
@@ketchuupiwell they are chinese…idk but they are known as pretty racist and also very into pale-ness
I mean, dehya, Candace, cyno and xinyan are the only bronze skinned playable characters after 4 years so I can see why people would be upset.
Edit: also Kaeya
And also, Kaeya and Xinyan are still darker than Candace, Dehya and Cyno who literally live in the desert 💀
@@eileencrys cyno and dehya are white they both have tje same skin color as Lois griffin
not to mention they are considered to be weaker characters in the game.
@@pko-u8kCyno kind of op if you know to play him
@@johnnyjoestar1249 But he's niche.
This stings real bad for me, I'm Totonaca, one of the cultures shown in Natlan, Mexican Indigenous scarcely get shown for what they are, so I had hopes for Natlan, but no
@@orangejuiceaudio996 I have been telling people what you're saying.
I'm the son of a Colombian native, but I'M NOT NATIVE.
Latin american people keeps saying "gringos just complain about everything", brother you're the son of spanish people, not indigenous, get it through your skull.
This is not the first time white people have tried to "fix" or eradicate black people from history, it's ignorant to act like this demeanor isn't harmful.
Nerd
@@UndeadAlv Well, some points to get across your comment.
1.- While indeed most mexicans are spanish descendants not all of us are, just in Mexico there are at least 6 indigenous communities of native americans that make special distinctions on people from pure blood and spaniard mixed, including Totonacas, Mayans, Tarahumaras, Yaquis, Tehuimas, Papagos, among others, so there are, indeed, pure blooded native americans in Mexico, and a whole lot more than in the US.
You have to understand that the Spanish conquest and the British conquest were a whole lot different, Spaniards stategy was to blend their culture with the locals, they subjugate them by imposing their belief system and their religion, they destroyed ancient texts and architecture but never messed with the local communities, unlike the British, who came to the continent and started going ballistic on everything and everyone that was different, Spanish conquest's objective was to "civilize the savages by faith" that's why there are countless records of academic texts on subjects such as Latin, art and religion in native languages aimed to "educate" the locals, the british just wanted the land so they erradicated everything on their way to settle themselves, so No, we are not all "descendants from spaniards"
2.- The fact that most people are indeed descendants from spaniards doesn't change the fact that Americans do complaint about everything on behalf of everyone else because they tend to live in their own bubble and think everyone has the same views as they do and, thus, have to be offended by the same things, like when they tried to cancel Speedy González
3.- We, as latin americans are not fixated on representation, outside the US communities, people who live in Latin America dont ask for it or care tbh, BUT we do care that, when we are represented at leats do it in a faithful and respectful way, like the thing with Primos from Disney Channel, no one asked for it but we reacted because it is an offensive representation of latin americans
@@A1998GatewayPC you're saying "we don't care" as if I didn't just say I'm the son of a native and I do care because I have read enough to see how this could be harmful.
You don't have to agree with me, but why say the point doesn't make sense when there's no reason to defend this situation? Like I said, it's not A BIG DEAL but it's relevant regardless, the company wouldn't suffer by not being disrespectful, quite the opposite.
But you're not from NATLAN right? Why are you comparing yourself to the citizen of Natlan when you're not even from there? Learn to separate fiction from real life. And maybe go outside and touch some grass😬 I pity you begging for a validation for your skin color from a fictional game🥺
Pftt it’s funny, people really doesn’t have a life to just focus on a detail like this impressive
natlan was the nation i was looking forward to the most because i love volcanoes, but also the nation i was scared to see the reveal of for this exact reason. i just want a character i can play as who has the same skin tone as me… im not even considered very dark but im still darker than dehya, and whenever i cosplay im commonly asked when ill do a character like candace or dehya just because of my skin tone. its so frustrating to even be limited to around 3 options
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for????
Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
you can absolutely cosplay characters that dont match your skintone in their original design!! just dont try to change YOUR skintone for the cosplay, think blackface but the opposite direction. as long as you like the character and enjoy cosplaying them you should absolutely go for it.
This is the same thing that happened during Sumeru. Yes, Natlan was based off of African, Mexican, and Brazilian culture (and the other parts of South America), so yes, they do need more darker skin toned characters for sure. Im half Brazilian, and the thing is there are white Brazilians (due to when the Portuguese took over Brazil around the same time North America was taken by the English and Irish) however there are not that many in comparison to darker skin toned people, fun fact I'm even in Brazil right as we speak and one of my uncles is white. The Spanish took over Mexico, Chile, Argentina, Honduras, etc as well and they were also white, but again they do need more darker skined characters
Sendo também brasileiro, é importante lembrar que mesmo que a miscigenação tenha ocorrido, os fenótipos dos povos nativos de nossas terras ainda se fazem existentes, especialmente em comunidades tradicionais e originárias. A miscigenação não matou proporcionalmente, ou brancalizou completamente estas populações. A hoyo está basicamente pegando toda uma referência de "UM" grupo cultural de países latino-americanos (nativo americanos), colocando tudo no carrinho, criando visuais, moda incrivelmente bem referenciadas, e colocando isto em personagens de aparência europeia, que NEM os chineses possuem (apesar deles perseguir incessantemente serem mais claros, mesmo nem eles sendo assim). Ou seja, eles tão tipo: gosto de tudo que vi aqui, cultura, geografia, estilo, PORÉM não gostei da sua gente e de sua aparência, pois não são brancos o bastante.
you do realise it's a game, right? a very fictional one at that. and hoyo is an eastern company. just put two and two together.
Natlan is based on INDEGENOUS America not their colonizers as far as i know ,spain was an inspiration for fontaine so the argument that those white looking natlan characters are based on spanish culture is very dumb
@@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972 Even East Asian people are complaining as I’ve heard. Hoyo is just being racist asf, plainly, people don’t like their culture being used without proper representation :/
As a full Brazilian, it would be NICE to have more tan characters, but it is NOT MANDATORY, as twitter seems to think.
The va’s of Sucrose, Albedo, and Sethos are also speaking against this. Im really hoping Genshin listens or else Natlan is going to be one of the most hated updates in Genshin
We're not even a week into 4.8 and 5.0 already seems to be leaving a bad impression on some people in the community- WHA.. 😭
and Gorou! Cory Yee had a really good thread about it
Also the va's for Owlbert and Topaz from honkai star rail
ik 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲
I'm curious but the va's get money from hoyo...are they even allowed to complain...??
why do they care so much abouth the characters color skin, im from México and a good amount lf people i know are really white, i even ask one of my friends when i first met her that if she was fine because of how pale she looked
I'm not the one to speak about cultural representation of others since I'm white as fuck but their response does bother me the most, basically i understand what they said as "genshin is all fiction so we're not trying to represent anything properly UNLESS it's china"
It’s not just that. Hoyoverse is a Chinese company. Of course they are more likely to make pale characters just like how African or middle eastern company’s would make darker characters
Thing is, they didn't do Liyue to represent China's people, they represented their culture, but they didn't design characters and NPC's to have "yellow" colored skin and stretched out eyes.
@@Dylansvsp I understand the fan service, I can understand their beauty standards, but the characters are not Chinese anymore, you won't find a single black person even among the nps in genshin while honkai star rail for example fixed that problem,
@@namieblinker5922 don't even understand where the stereotism came from, I'm not talking about that, in liyue you actually learn something about the Chinese culture, the nps have proper appropriate clothing just like in inazuma, asian symbolic, while in Sumeru: eat mushrooms, jump on mushrooms, talk to mushrooms
@@namieblinker5922 tevyat is fictional. They can take inspiration from cultures and design their characters how they please. Also, there are many pale brown people. And we all know I mostly white people getting mad about this.
That last line hits so hard. It would even more if it was more non specific
THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS!! I don't see a lot of content creators actually address stuff like this about Genshin, usually just turning a blind eye on it :(
Eh? More than a handful are addressing it.
@@gustavju4686 they address it but dont address the reasons why people dislike it and just say "Genshin drama is happening." so that people think its something stupid
I’m Hispanic and I don’t understand how yall get mad about some characters skin color yall stupid or something?
@@ghoostghost3336it is something stupid
@@ghoostghost3336it is stupid though. It’s a video game and fictional. I am black and hispanic and idc about some chars skin colors in a fictional madeup digital game. Because it’s not real life. It’s a fantasy game aka NOT real.
Maybe it’s because i don’t play genshin as often anymore, but I feel like all of this is virtue signaling. How many times have people boycotted the game for this reason and came crawling back? It’s because people do not care at the end of the day, all of this is kiddy nonsense and people need to just touch some grass.
Honestly i dont get why skin tone is so important its just skin???
Now that i think about it, Reverse 1999 and Genshin are both chinese games created from chinese companies. Reverse 1999 has more cultural reference and even skin tones, but how come hoyo doesn't?
Exactly
It doesn’t matter where the company is from representation is needed
I am still going to play genshin but until they fix this once natlan comes out I’m going to stop wishing
The thing with Re:1999 is that it's meant to be set in the real world we live in but with fantasy/sci-fi elements (i.e. Arcanists and stuff). While Teyvat is a fictional "Earth" that takes inspiration from various real-world cultures.
I think a much better comparison would be Genshin vs Arknights, since Terra is also a fictional reinterpretation of Earth that is divided into different nations inspired by real ones. And Arknights already has way more dark-skinned characters than Genshin lol (maybe unfair since AK has so many more operators, but still..). I'm not super familiar w/ AK but Flint, Beeswax, Thorns and Tuye come to mind
Genshin impact is not based on real world and world history like reverse 1999 does.
Not at all
They're take inspiration but not representation and real world historical like reverse 1999
@@nevermind2254dark skinned people can appear in fantasy and fiction it’s not exclusive for characters white as paper 💀
@@gaycore3301 they do appear in Genshin world too. Are you really think representation is about skin colour? That's sad to acknowledge for me. And reminds you AGAIN genshin is not representation any of real world culture they're just take inspiration and it didn't do make original culture turn out bad or made people think it actually it in real world.
It's like Easter eggs, if you know you know, if you don't have those knowledge to begin with, they are just a game for people to enjoyed. That's so simple. If you want more black character or something they do that but few because . You can just don't spend money or play their games.
I bet the people will forget about the whole 'boycott genshin' thing once natlan actually comes out
Same thing with 3x pulls for Anniversary rewards, yet people still whale for Arlecchino and say she is "strong" 😂
It happens most of the time, not just in Genshin to be frank. They complain about something, but once that something gets in their hands, somehow, their complaints are no more. This kind of thing also happens when there will be an upcoming game. Once the game is released, their mouths are zipped shut. These people i tell you
Everyone praised Inazumas accuracy while "boycotting" Sumeru but sales and playerbase shows Sumeru outperformed Inazuma despite the twitter kids meltdown.
Dawg this is like the 5 time they’ve “boycotted” genshin and let me be honest ppl don’t know how to boycott
Yes and there is also no way Genshin will adjust their character designs after they released the characters
I'm not someone who looks out for stuff like that much, but I noticed too. It's not hard to do darker skinned characters. Sumeru barely did it, but even their characters had darker skin than those. It's ridiculous.
Para mi lo ridículo es que los anglo-hablantes piensen que en Latinoamérica y África somos todos de piel oscura.
Gracias compañía china por no realizar actos "Woke".
@@nyososcasa2253Mijo nmms sigue siendo una mayoría por no decir que los nombres tomados aquí y la cultura representada sí son de etnias de pigmentación más oscura, no digo que no pongan personajes blancos en la nueva región pero entiendo el porque puede resultar extraño que la mayoría no tenga colores que se tienen en la mayoría de estos países. Igual no diría que es la mejor razón para boicotear hoyo pero sí fue algo decepcionante, still better than sumeru tho
@@nyososcasa2253woke es cuando piel oscura, anotado 👍
I can confirm, I have Layla in Genshin, and she is paler than the walls in my aunt’s room, and they are *WHITE*
@@nyososcasa2253 woke es cuando melanina
These people really need to stop being sensitive about the Natlan Trailer.. please just enjoy the trailer, region, its characters, its beautiful lore, etc. Even the Saurians and the other creatures, bosses, mobs, and more.
HoYoVerse and their developer's did a good job, and we should give them props for how many details they worked on and added. Especially for the lore and characters. Every culture is beautiful and wondrous. In a good way. It's really sad when people just act like this. :(
I know there's not a lot of characters with darker skin tones, but just be grateful we have Natlan and the others out, alright? Just enjoy the darker skin tone characters we have, y'know? Candace, Cyno, and other ones I can't remember?
I hope I'm not being racist or anything like that of the sorts. If I am, I'm so sorry! :(
They brainwashed us into thinking cyno, cadance etc are dark skin, I'm literally the same skin tone as CYNO and I'm white. They literally whitewashed a Nigerian deity and turned him into a Gacha alpha wolf bad boy hybrid oc.
@Hinapawz ororon isn't a Nigerian god though? It's a character in a fictional country. If they were putting the actual god in the game and changed his skin color than yes, but that's not what they're doing
@@Hinapawz The character isn't real.
You see the problem is majority of HyV players are from the east not west. They will cater to which one is their bigger player base than the smaller. I am from Asia. And majority of people I know who plays this games, doesn't give shit about the "representation" the characters should show.
You see how fast HyV fixed Neuvi's nerf? Because CN players(which is their biggest fan base) complained. Zhongli's buffed in the past? Because CN complained. If people want their voices to be heard, starting a boycott hashtag isn't really gonna reach Hyv considering people tried to 'boycott' them a lot of times.
A lot of us, from my place, couldn't careless about the things happening, but if you want to for hyv to actually notice(they know but rather they're not doing anything) or do something, its better if CN players would start complaining as well since they listen to them the most.
This!! In Russia most players do realize that the target audience is the Chinese, not us. Westerners are so used to be in the spotlight that they panic when something is being done not for them.
Tbf, even If The main audience would be The west, still Nobody would Care. Mental Twitter people are still luckily a minority.
theres no logical reason to give a shit about representation , the whole thing is a nontroversy
Ye we don't really care bout this controversy tbh. Minority of them who care exists, but it's called minority for a reason lol.
cn players were leading the boycott lol
the fact that people try to defend this by saying “oh well chinese people are colorist and racist so it’s understandable” it is not understandable. we are in a century where this segregation and discrimination should not be taking place and we shouldn’t “accommodate” just because some people have lived as racists, if we don’t educate them then who will?
Where was all the cancel culture outrage when INAZUMA was based on JAPAN and JAPANESE CULTURE but no Japanese people were used??? Where was the outrage??? So now we are just picking and choosing what ethnicities to stand up for????
Either that y'all are being racist AF by saying that Chinese people did this intentionally and to boycott them and calling them racist. Meanwhile there was no outrage over Inazuma taking Japanese culture but no Japanese people. Going so far as to boycott China's game. When their own CHINESE people aren't even included in the game! Sounds like y'all are the racist ones!!!
Yeah people can't just generalize all chinese people to be racist, sinophobia is so normalized
I would argue the racist ones are actually the ones who can't seem to be able to focus on anything else but skin color..
Strange..
even chinese fans were calling hyv out 😭 i saw a few posts from a chinese forum that said if hyv wanted to take inspo from africa/latam, it would make sense for them to make black characters
"if we don't educate them who will?"
my man, you're bearing the same principle as christoper colombus and yet mhy is the one who is racist? bs, you're just wanna white wash other culture with your idea
the fact that even the voice actors are speaking out about it (Valeria especially) says something
Wait, what are they saying?
Are they speaking out because they want to or because people ask them to speak out about it?
Only English VAs would whine about a non-issue like this.
@@your_average_cultured_dude you are probably only saying this because you aren't the demographic being used. now if someone where to take something from you (like a say) that you made with a deep meaning close to you and then proceeded to completely water it down how would you feel?
@@zolamosley9156 I would feel perfectly fine. That's how I felt about Sumeru, for which I was the demographic being "used".
I know the difference between fiction and reality 🤯🤯🤯
This all started around Sumeru. I don't understand why people make such a deal out of it now. They should've been concerned around the release to midway of Inazuma if they really cared that much. Yoimiya, Raiden, and few others don't even look asain they are just in Traditional clothes. The lack of characters from Monstadt that don't go along with the German like theme and ethnicity. The lack of people in Fontaine actually representing the french, sure there are words but where are the ethnic groups of French there? The traditional clothes. People only complain when a skin tone isn't atoned for, they don't care for the other ethnicities and cultures. Additionally no other games like Genshin get flamed for all white characters despite literally only having white characters. I am not dissing everyone's arguement but if you didn't care about other ethnicities and stuff you don't have much a right to be mad.
Not to mention the only people getting mad about this is white people. I've talked to many colored people and they didn't care much at all.
@@thelight7730yeah, I mean I’m German, French, and Russian. I have a twink femboy, a mentally unstable girl, and the 1,000,000th Russian themed villain to have ever been created. I don’t really care tbh, I mean, in Russia genshin is pretty popular and they don’t care about how they are represented.
Though to be fair, I do agree that we could have more darker skinned characters in the game, but unfortunately that just won’t happen. It’s obvious why when you look at the Chinese player base, and knowing them, they’d probably do some literal domestic terrorism over a character being to dark. Plus their government would be mad, they have a really nationalist mindset and are even pretty racist to Europeans or “white” people. Hell, even other Asians. They view Korean and Japanese people as “inferior” copies of them.
(Edit: I’m also gonna add that they also technically “gender-washed” Raiden shougun, he was a real guy, bet non of these people know about him though)
God, the smell of privilege from many of you guys is strong. This isn’t a case of Hoyo doing whatever, it’s been shown over and over that they are capable of making characters with more melanin.
God forbid a fantasy world has variety. Fans are making noise because we love the game and want it to do better.
If we can drop wendigos and use of voodoo, we can demand respect for other cultures.
Bro, privilege is having enough time to complain about the skin color of some pixels in a chinese game.
The people that says that it doesnt matter when they turn white characters into black because it is fiction are the same complaining there isnt darker skinned characters.
Honestly if you are that worried about diversity then join an organization that actually help with that.
@@alejandrocano3010beautifully said. Becoming diversity warrior in chinese made game, commenting in youtube short videos while scratching belly in their bed and hoping it bring changes.
They should have commenting when liyue characters came out and no one have small eyes.
@@alejandrocano3010I’m generally not too pressed about these matters, I usually could care less tbh with you. But respectfully and genuinely, they do have a point. How are you going to take from cultures, but not reflect the people within those same cultures? No less, disrespecting a well known and worshipped deity. It’s not really okay. Sure it’s fictional, but they’re taking real life inspiration into their works. I don’t think it’s wrong to want to see the culture you’re a part of be reflected accurately in the media you consume, y’know?
@@alejandrocano3010 I don't think it's about what you said, it's about how Mihoyo is “cherry picking“ from cultures. They are using literally everything about them EXCEPT their skin colour. Seems kinda shady... Right..?
@@p1nk_ideano, they are a chinese company, most chinese people are white and they would sell less if they made every character 💅🏿. All of you dont undestand that hoyo is still a buisness and their objective is to make money and since most of their players are white, they dont need to change anything. And many people still play the game even though they complain for 5 hours on twitter or some comment sections
Considering that the skin color of the second darkest Natlan character is apparently still lighter than the lightest skin color you can choose in Roblox, that's INSANE!!
(tbh. I can't quite confirm this since I've only seen screenshots, but still...)
What sort of irrelevant arguement is _that?_ Some games allow you to use the full colour spectrum as well as gradients that range from "0.01 seconds after the Big Bang" to "literally just a black hole;" are you trying to claim that games that choose to have a _different_ aesthetic are somehow _less valid?_
Just stfu. Firstly, genshin have more like pastel color palette. Second....i can understand drama over skin, but "not to dark" is so fckn stupid.
@@Jackson-ub1uvIt’s a comparison not an argument.
@@Soul.Resonant It clearly _is_ when, in a debate about racism, the comparison is between the amount of diversity between games.
@@Jackson-ub1uv There’s nothing argumentative about this comment. And after reading your previous reply more carefully I’m not even going to continue this. Don’t bother replying I’ve already muted you.
it feels so bizzare to take an entire culture but then proceed to ignore the race of people it belongs to. its textbook definition of cultural appropriation
@@namixless9732 ••• Genshin Impact is a fantasy game.
Why you spout cultural appropriation on it? It’s nonsense
You talk like GI is a historical accurate documentary meant to represent every single country 1:1 with their real-life inspirations…
But it isn’t, so stop being so overly offended
If you want to be actually offended over something legitimately insulting, go to AC Shadows‘ attempt to rewrite Japanese history by overglorifying Yasuke as a ‚Legendary Samurai‘ to which over 90% of his attributes are invented by a white author selling his invented infos as ‚facts‘
@@Radio-97 i love how you try to argue this but them proceed to get mad about another videogame. what happened to “its just a fantasy game” or does that only apply to hating black and brown people
@@namixless9732 I used AC in this example because they advertise themselves so much with their ‚historical accuracy‘ and their journos try to even rewrite Japanese history just for the only mentioned PoC character who was just a retainer and not a ‚samurai extraordinaire‘ like Ubisoft titles him as the male MC.
It isn‘t hating on black/brown people, so I have no clue how you draw that conclusion
Y‘all hate on Genshin every other week and call it to the xth time racey meanwhile AC does nothing but insult Japanese history and that‘s for Westerners perfectly acceptable
What AC Shadows does is racey motivated, not Genshin people-_-
What I find bizarre is your take on it. So far, from the 9 Natlan Characters that have been teased, 3 are tanned, 2 are dark-skinned, and 4 are light-skinned.
As for the leaks that have been shown thus far, there are many black, and dark-skinned NPCs in the different cities/tribes in Natlan. Even some of the enemies possess some attributes and skin-tones drawn from the real life cultures that have inspired Natlan.
I would definitely say that *"but then proceed to ignore the race of people it belongs to"* is an inaccurate statement.
(not that skin color matters in real life, let alone in a fictional fantasy video game, but still).
@@Radio-97 calling AC a historically accurate game is actually schizophrenic talk. if you wanna be consistent with your arguments youre wrong in both regards as genshin made this with the purpose of representing brown people but somehow forget to include the brown people in their own culture, whereas AC used a beloved legend that hs had multiple comics,mangas, and an anime. the reason i point out that its only about hating brown people is because of the hypocrisy i just pointed out. youre totally fine with inaccuracy if it means that you get to forget that minorities exist.
Girl ur Pronounciatuon of that Oloron is really good for a non native Yoruba speaker ❤
right??? i was pleasantly surprised
As a white looking latino person, I am disgusted by the nataln characters. Stop using the “not all Latin American pll have darker skin” comments!! Natlan’s characters don’t look like my friends, or like the people I see on street every day, it’s a reminder of the cultural appropriation and the massive dehumanization we suffer outside our countries.
The day you understand that the game is inspired by cultures but is not a 1:1 copy of real life, you will stop crying about everything. The Japanese have black hair and there are no Inazuma characters with that hair color. The closest thing is Sarah but she has a dark bluish color. Also even with the Chinese opera theme and Yun Jin's actress voice, she came out to say that what they did in the game was not 100% correct either to Chinese opera standars. The game does not pretend at any point to be a realistic story material, it is a fantasy game that takes inspiration from different things of the real world and adapt that to the game.
I guess you wanna get isekai'd to genshin world?
@@siabenkamui8968then why can they make the npcs have dark skin colored while they cant with the playable characters who are canonly supposed to be dark but instead whitewashed them? The thing here too is that its clear that their designs were def made for dark skin tones because when you darken their skin, it compliments them SO MUCH more.
@@SatanHades Same reason why Inazuma is based in Japan and yet it does not have characters with black hair but several blondes... the game does not use or intend to use real world racial traits in the characters at any time, except for the fictional ones of the game as half-humans/beasts or onis.
@@siabenkamui8968 yes, i understand what youre trying to point out. But im asking WHY the npcs are dark skin yet the playable characs that are SUPPOSED to have dark skin is not? Yeah sure, the characters are fictional and doesnt base of the real world, but why are the npcs that are also related to the culture dark skin, like how theyre suppose to be, yet not the playable ones who ARE suppose to be dark? the thing here is that, they have absolutely NO REASON for them to not make the characters black since they have npcs that are darker than their literal darkest playable character. (Srry if my english sucks and my words keeps on repeating)
Ok bur how these characters are under the sun all day and still are paper white
Natlan is full of greenery
Bro has been training for the tournament indoors I guess
Vision perk's
They're europeans bro, just like everyone in Genshin
@williankran5082 they aren't all European, brother 💀
I'm native American. Who cares.. Game good, natlan good, characters good, culture good, and to who ever is reading this (you good too)
Genshin impact! The british museum of games! Almost everything in it is from different cultures except for the people
Uh you want the british museum to have people in it like a zoo?... thats wild.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mnWtf... this isn't just implied racism, thinking that Sumeru and Natlan characters are a bunch of savages. Bffr, Hoyoverse has been nothing but blatantly racist and colorist to their games
@@tsugumu-mugu He said the museum doesn't have people in it, I just pointed out how weird that is.
And they said POC is savages when? Was the Akademia not the main enemy of the story and the Eremites not our allies to take them down and the fact the Avademia is racist to them a major plot point?
Did you play Sumeru at all? Seems like you didn't.
The only people who treat eremites as savages are literally the villians we where made to fight against and the eremites where literally our alies.
There is limits to stupidity, you just found it.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn I finished Sumeru for a long time already, it's just disrespectful how Hoyoverse made their enemy npc's more dark skinned than the rest of the playable characters. It just made me think Hoyo attributed eremites to a bunch of savages because of the statement you said that the museum wants no animals from the zoo.
@@tsugumu-mugu Uh dude can you read? At all? Literally read my comment, not once did I call anyone animals or savages.
You should really read properly before reacting.
The original comment said that the Museum has everything but the people and I pointed out that that would mean that the museum would keep people like a zoo keeps animals which makes no sense.
You really need to work on your reading comprehenshion before reacting this angrily on the internet.
Guys....this has been a problem since sumeru... maybe I cared more about sumeru since I'm Indian and my culture was apart of it but why are you guys so surprised still???? The history book was right infront of you and you didn't learn your lesson??
People never learn from history. Once Natlan comes out this whole situation will suddenly dissappear same as it did with Sumeru and hoyo will have done nothing. Who knows maybe in a year or two this drama will come up again only to follow the same pattern and die down in less than 2 months with no result.
people were really outraged by sumeru. it just seems that the whole thing with natlan is sticking harder this time.
but most people will probably move on once the nation and its characters are released, it’s what happened in sumeru.
No . I didn't give shit for sumeru , nor do I care about the same thing in natlan
@@mob806they spoke for themselves not you . They didn't say "everyone cares abt it "
They also seem to forget Natlan is the nation of pyro in a very literal sense. You will not find tanned people near areas of extreme heat. I'd be surprised if the populace wasn't more pale than Mondstat citizens.
As an african player, i’m deeply disappointed that HYV couldn’t do the bar minimum. Tbh, pale people are not the problem, but why do you want to represent a culture but represent the people from this culture ? Most of latam and west african players thought that Natlan would represent them but…
The thing here is that Mihoyo literally stated that they are not intending to represent but rather take inspiration.
But still, that last comment really puts this situation into perspective, I can't disagree with it. Because this is exactly what Mihoyo seems to think and I can absolutely understand your disappointment
yup, im more with the fact that its a fiction game etc but i completely agree with this thing - they are taking the cultural symbols of those countries and basing them in the game where its more beneficial for them to make lighter characters and all. thats one thing i kinda wish they didnt do because that just.. defeats the point?? like its not like ororon looks identical to the irl oloron and has identical powers so why tf even inspire from him? just name him bob and itll be the exact same. like the primordial one isnt called jesus
The absurdity doesn't stop there btw. Putting aside the cultural factor there's still a thing they forgot about: biology. As far as i can see Natlan seems to have a climate similar to the regions right below the equator meaning that the sun there burns you to death from how hot it is. Now here comes the question: how can there be so many white people in a place where natural selection favors dark skin? Even if it's a fantasy game you can still see that biology is still the same.
In Mondstadt (Germany) and Fontaine (France) there are a lot of light skinned people.
In Liyue (China) and Inazuma (Japan) they tend towards an asian skin color (the difference is really small but it's there).
In Sumeru (Arabian Peninsula) you run into a problem. The only dark skinned people are the ones from the desert which doesn't make sense since the Sumeru forest kinda looks like a rainforest and rainforests grow near the equator so technically speaking there should be more tanned characters but it's not the case.
You could try to justify this with some characters (Tighnari that is a different specie or Collei that comes from outside) but characters such as Alhaitam or Kaveh should be tanned cause they were born there.
As you can see even when you put aside the cultural factors you still end up with something that doesn't make sense to be there. Something that feels inconsistent.
Then you would agree assassin's creed shadows shouldn't have a black mc
Same i wish for black characters
KEYWORD "inspiration" doesnt mean they HAVE to
People whining about "Boycot Genshin" but still spend money on it and play it. Virtue signaling 😂
Because hating on Genshin is just a meme at this point.
Anything is triggering to snowflakes who think a fantasy game about a fictional world is representative of reality
@@Radio-97fantasty game that takes exact cultural names
fucking shill
@@Radio-97but go ahead, keep playing whale
@@spoon7053 ‚keep playing whale‘… idk what are you trying to say with it
yea i bet the banner selling will still increase despite this, that's why they not taking any report that seriously 💀
They say they're boycotting Ghenshin, but they're still playing the game and interacting with the gacha...
What a bunch of jokes 🙄
Right and I don’t even play the game and I find it weird when i see “___” simps play and still buy stuff from the game
And how they want to add "cultures" into a "work of fiction" game :V. Like bro, have you heard of Black Myth Wukong? No? There are even some motherfckers out therr want to add FCKING DEI into a game where you control a monkey in a fantasy world and bonk monsters :V
>massive
>less than 1% players
This is exactly what these drama videos need to know. Thanks
Genshin needs to do better with melanin, but the fact that we cant even talk about Natlan without someone complaining about the skin color is crazy. Like let me play the game in peace?
And I hate how people are complaining about racism but keep saying “oh it’s a Chinese game ofcourse it’s going to be bad” like isn’t that racist too? Now that doesn’t justify genshin’s actions but these arguments are getting so tiring and off track.
Ppl still seeing color rather then seeing each other as a human with a different shade of wheat bc in all reality that’s what we all are
aint gonna take a boycott seriously when the players who boycotts doesnt even stop playing the game lol
You wanted to say *paying
@@PurpleDiamondsTMit won’t effect them if the current playing numbers are high
@@PurpleDiamondsTM Bro the minute you downloaded the game hoyo got a check they already have your money 💀
@@PurpleDiamondsTM yeah like that’s going to do anything 😂. When your favorite CC’s still are going to continue to whale, never mind the fact that EN is only a portion of Genshin’s player base.
@@seika_ru I think this boycott is more serious
Genshin's earnings have reduced a considerable amount recently
Hopefully that sentiment goes to Hoyo in general
There are some dialogues in-game that read as the creative team disagreeing with the executive by the way they talk about history and expression 😭
so many people in the comments sound so stupid. "it's teyvat not real culture?" so why is everyone white? "it's just skin color" so why is everyone white?? how does these answer this question! if you don't care that they're all white then keep it to yourself. but picking white as the "normal" skin tone while the others are barely tan is something people should talk about, whenever it leads to anything or not.
They aren't picking "white" they're picking pale, which china likes, no matter what yall think America and Europe only make up about 20% of the player base
@@cyperianblue416 white = pale
@@cyperianblue416 yeah I meant pale. and the chinese and japanese players are not happy with it, so it doesn't really matter so heavily as you think. if the sales drop drastically because they added more darker skin color based on the nation then frankly i'd be shocked. most of us east asian players wouldn't stop playing just because they added variety. we're not that shallow.
@kageyukiaru I didn't mean to sound rude, what I meant was they aren't going to care what a vocal 5% of the player base thinks if the rest are fine, I'm Hispanic and I personally don't care what skin color the characters are as long as it's a good update
For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction. You are entitled to voice your opinion about these character designs, however others are as well. If they do not share your viewpoint they are perfectly within their right to vocally disagree with you.
It's truly a shame... Ianshan was looking pretty good too in the travail trailer
Hoyo designed Iansan with Kaeya and Xinyan, then decided that 3 was enough POC characters 😅💀
Iansan became Iashan (Hoyo fucked up iansan's design so badly 😭)
Fr she had such a good contrast back then with undertones but now they completely grey scaled her it reminds me of those really bad black foundations that made people furious cuz most poc doesn't have that type of ash skin, there was no effort.
@@eileencrysthere's deyha too, cyno, Candice. And then the webtoon queen Vanessa 🤩
I am AN EGYPTIAN and some genshin characters are middle eastern or egyptians
And people say they are whitewashed
Bro i am pale af
Not everyone is black in middle east so stop please
ok as a yoruba girl , not even i noticed the similarities between olorun and ororon , because of the different design and skin color. hoyo if they're from African there's a 70% chance they're black, u did this with npcs why not playable
When Neuvillette's splash art came out and Ixbalanqué was mentioned, I lost my mind! I was so excited to see my culture in the game, I even re-read my Popol Vuh getting ready to catch all the references in the game! But then I saw Kinich in the trailer and my heart broke. When the vast majority of us are morenos, seeing a white guy representing us just felt out of place. He wasn't even tanned by the sun like my mestizo ass is.
It's like I'm back in the school, when they would choose the only white girl in the class to represent us in a contest just because she was the "prettiest", not because she was the best candidate. A couple days ago Kinich's splash art came out and he looks a more tanned. Guess the pressure is slowly getting to them, but the damage is done.
At this point, I don't want them to get any revenue from my culture anymore.
Culture isn't about skin tone tho? Natland takes inspiration from the culture, they're not going to take everything. It just a skin color. But I agree, they should add more dark skinned characters. It will make the game better
@@rose_blue1 Yes! I can only speak for Brazil, but as far as I’ve studied in school, a huge portion of Latin American culture literally emerged from miscegenation and society’s structure around it, so in this case, ethnicity plays a huge part in it.
@@rose_blue1 doesnt matter?
And the characters we already have who do have melanin are considered to be weak too
That's what I was gonna point out as well. I'm not sure what to think anymore.
cyno isnt weak...
@@horribllydrawenbaldamber8968 The only one out of 6 melanin's that are Above B Tier. Cyno not being weak doesn't make up for anything.
@@4EverAGirlBoss keep crying, there is nothing you can do about it 😂
@@jm52995 Are you schizo? Nobodies crying.
They need to pay these voice actors and stop trying to replace them with Ai because im finna lose it if another character goes without a voice
As a latino I can say it's so stupid the fact that they chosed the regions with variety of skins tone from the withers ones to the darkers... And the used only the white ones
I feel like everyone here who's claiming that "It's just a game" and telling people to "stop complaining" are forgetting that people have the right to voice their opinions. Who do you think you are, shushing people when they try to speak up on something that bothers them. It's honestly pathetic. Maybe yall should just take your own advice and ignore the people who speak up about it if it annoys you this much.
No? Since they are the one trying to ruin that game and if don't speak, developers can't know that they are a minority, a lot of these people are just Twitter crybabies and they don't even play this game, like how they don't play, nor watch other stuff that they tried to "boycott"... If they don't like it, they are free to quit or at least to don't pay to get more advantages, since the company isn't going to earn if no one pay anyway.
But people aso have the right to voice their disagreements to others. It’s freedom of speech. Personally as a Mexican I don’t care if my skin color isn’t represented as long as the characters look good I’m fine with whatever skin they have.
@@sirzane5779 the point is: they aren't just expressing an opinion, they are trying to take down a company for the supposed crime of "not being enough enclusive because of a supposed racism" in a game, made by people living in a country where white is always better and people literally kill themself with toxic products to become whiter. How much you think a black character can sell in China?
Based @@sirzane5779
@@nanakomatsu7425 Does the game gets ruined because there can be dark skinned characters? Lmfaoooo
as a latina with both mexican and guatemalan roots i understand the controversy around the skin color, especially when depicting old civilizations, however personally im just happy that there is any rep of this culture at all, there so much that makes it special besides skin color that so far hoyo is trying to depict correctly. i was completely shocked and excited to see a character with my name (Citlali) in something so popular. Also Citlali is an Aztec name not Hawaiian.
im latino as well (venezuelan) im glad to have some latino/hispanic representation as well
as a latino, i don't agree. you deserve much better. stop living off crumbs, queen.
@@fauxrum that’s so real but sadly that’s all they’re giving out 😭
I'm asking this very sincerely, just to preface this, as it could seem somewhat hostile, otherwise.
If someone is taking your culture- your stories, your architectural style, your foods, your music- basically *everything except for YOU.*
Are they _actually_ representing you? If the people that they are attributing those things don't look like you, or your people who created those things, is it actually representing you?
If the only time that they are willing to show the existence of your people who are of darker skin tones is when they are portraying you as being not just being violent and destructive, but as it being *inherently moral to end you,* WHILE they present your culture as being strictly attributed to only a very specific portion of your people, the ones that they go out of their way to portray as being indistinguishable from _how they portray their own people..._
Are they really representing your culture? Or are they taking credit for your culture and saying that _they_ made it, and that any similarities to your culture is coincidental?
Can you really that that they're representing your culture if they go out of their way to remove you from it?
Citlalli es estrella en náhuatl.
A mi me gustó la representación de genshin impact de mi región, ¿No entiendo porque se molestan las personas de otras regiones???
Soy Latinoamérica y tengo piel blanca y ojos verdes, me veo bien representado por los personajes.
As an african, I really don’t care about all of this, all I want to do is play the game and enjoy it, I wanna use new characters that I care about how their playstyle is not their colour, ofc many other africans and south americans might be disappointed and it’s understandable but I personally don’t even care.
The things is the one who complained about it are Americans, USA to be specific not even south American. The rest who actually tan and from the race the culture from doesn't give a shit about it and just enjoy the game. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Well, Sumeru is okay to me cuz it’s not like everyone has a darker skin tone in India, Western Asia, and Northern Africa but naming a character after a deity in Western Africa and making him white af is genuinely so f**ked up.
I'm Nigerian, and We don't care!!! It's just a Name! Olorun is just the Yoruba name for God! As in CHRISTIAN God!And he has dozens of other names too. Why are you triggered for some random shit? Don't you have better things to worry about?!😂
@@bunnyx2819 Take "Matthew" for example
He is Jesus' Disciple, yet his name is used by every single color in existance.
Why r u people so sensitive about this??? Istg the ONLY people losing their shoes over this are people who ARENT EVEN FROM THE MINORITY. shut tf up!!! Dont speak for them bc from what Ive seen those people r mostly fine with Natlan. As a south asian brown person, I absolutely adored Sumeru, and not to mention its a chinese game from chinese producers and its set in an imaginary land where none of it is actually real. The regions are INSPIRED by these cultures and places, not actually those places. It seems like yall have forgotten that shit.. Also many chinese people, not ALL of them, but many, are not fond of dark skin tones. You guys need to stop whining. Many deity’s names have been used and its never historically accurate (probably bc its a name??) but NOBODY ever talks about that. Yall need reality checks.
@@bunnyx2819you say “we” don’t care but I have seen other people of your culture caring. You don’t care and that’s fine I’m happy if you don’t mind, but other people of these cultures do and to silence them isn’t right.
@@bunnyx2819is the we in the room with us?