Does Steven Universe Hold Up?
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Yes. Yes he does.
Question answered
Thank you sir you just saved 33 minutes and 31 seconds of my life
bish ofc he does
Spoilers man 😔
Most liked reply please?
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This is not a question, is a statement, he doesn't like it, he loves it
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I mean he Denys it is over so 🤷♀️
His character literally has the artstyle
Uncle Grandpa spoiling the twist of the entire show in a throwaway joke line is such a nice touch
Wait, what was the line?
@@N0Xcn i think it was UG telling steven to polish his gem. I dont remember the rest of the context though
Sorry I don't recall the specifics either, but yeah, the gist of it is UG looking at Stevens gem and providing instructions on how to care for a Diamond, not a Quartz. You really had to be a geologist aficionado to get what was blurted out that fast.
The line is he’s looking at Steven’s gem and goes “You should make sure you get this thing polished at least twice a year” which would absolutely go over most people’s heads.
But if you know geoscience esp gems then you know one, diamonds are recommended to be polished twice a year and two, quartz do not require continued polishing. ITS REAL SUBTLE BUT IT RLY DOES GIVE IT AWAY IF YOUR A ROCK NERD LOL
garnets arc is less obvious she goes from ruby and sapphire being codependent to being a model relationship
she also becomes much more open towards others later on too. at first she is the model, stoic leader who, out of all the gems steven feels he knows the least well, and becomes much more open towards steven, and arguably to the others too. pearl and amethyst both overestimate her fortitude at times, or are even afraid of disappointing her, when really they are all pretty much on equal ground. she makes as many mistakes as any of the major cast do, and like you said even ruby and sapphire get development that effects and strengthens their own relationship and thus garnet's existance too. her arc is just more subtle because she doesn't have major, apparent changes likes the other crystal gems.
Yeah, by the time of Future you see Ruby and Sapphire casually unfuse in order to do their own thing. They now have separate lives beyond Garnet
@@lionclan4575 Also all the gems become much more open to interacting with and making friends with humans. Pearl is the most obvious, who goes from wanting to bring the fence back to training Connie and getting a group of human friends in Future but all the Gems including Garnet are seen interacting with human voluntarily at points toward the end of the show. E.g. Obviously they didn't have to have the townie's at their wedding, and there's the concept of the wedding in the first place and engaging more with human culture in a meaningful way for them.
Yeah she definitely went from being seen as the leader/best gem to being treated as an equal.@lionclan4575
Okay, I'm not a music guy. In fact, I can't carry a tune even if it was in a bucket. But, like, I like "What's The Use of Feeling Blue" and it's almost 4 AM, so I'm gonna say my piece. I think the song being clunky and uneven is a bit of the point. Cause Yellow Diamond isn't a singer - shes a soldier, a general. She's trying to comfort Blue over Pink's supposed "death". But her idea of dealing with it is to lash out, be angry, and try to forcefully move past it. It's a very soft way of telling someone to shut up and get over it, even though Yellow herself isn't over it and it's reflected in the discorded singing of the Pearls and the music that follows after. And, of course, how the song ends with Yellow remembering her own pain and hitting the wall.
An analysis by me, someone who is tone deaf. Now take my like and have a good night. Or morning. Afternoon? IDK.
I agree!! The disonance is the point :)
absolutely 100% agreed
@@pearlyp9898yes! I think it’s exactly why the song starts with the pearls singing a dissonant tune. It’s uncomfortable and a bit jarring, but that’s because Yellow herself is uncomfortable and her true feelings are dissonant with the persona she puts on. She dedicates herself to being a leader and a diamond, believing that her own feelings are distractions, but that’s due to the pressure she puts on herself to live up to high expectations and the way she doesn’t want to think about her own grief and pain. She doesn’t want to have these feelings at all, she wants to be a perfect robotic leader, never looking back, in stark contrast to blue who wallows in her misery and grief and refuses to move on.
that song HITS
THISSSSS is the correct take, thank you!
As Rebecca Sugar used to say all the time when it was airing “ There are no filler episodes of Steven universe.” The show isn’t called “ the fight of the Crystal gems” it’s called “ Steven universe”. And Steven universe isn’t just a gem. He’s half human. So I don’t know why people for some reason expect the show to ignore his human half. Which goes against the message of the show regarding Steven. The whole point is that he’s not just human and not just gem. He is both. So the show is going to show both sides of his life. So you can’t call them filler. They’re all important.
From a message perspective, yes that is correct. But from an overall plot perspective, no I would have to disagree there are certain episodes that feel like filler
@@TheKeller101 well honestly, it doesn't matter how you feel. What is or is not filler is determined by what the episode does or does not do for the plot or the characters
@@nkirukaj2384 true, for world building I would agree that there were no filler episodes. But there were at least a few Renaldo episodes I think we can both agree could have been cut
To be honest, I detest how the term "Filler" has gone from "Episodes of an anime that are thrown together and not based on the source material because the show is catching up too fast" to just mean "any episode of any show that isn't advancing the main story or cast." Some folks are in too much of a hurry to get through a show, and it weirds me out because some of the "Filler" is great. Hell, Tiger Millionaire and Beach Party are some of my favorite episodes.
in anime there are non filler episodes that focus on slice of life and characters... but with steven universe most slice of life and character focused episodes end on... returns to the status quo which is more like a filler episode than a character episode.
AND on top of that they rush past any important plot episodes (the last episode is literally "changing hitlers mind"... it took them like 20 episodes for peridot but white is just... instant?!?)
I am a huge fan of character and world focused episodes but when you don't develop them right it's just a waste of time
I personally refer to it as stuffing. Not furthering any plot, but not completely negligible, either. It's there to add to the world or story (the overall meal), not to fill in scheduling gaps.
@@legomeaker101potatoIt’s not exactly the show’s fault that it got cancelled and they had to squeeze their finale into a handful of episodes (which they had to fight to even get in the first place, the show would’ve ended at Reunion if they didn’t manage to convince the executives).
+ there are plenty of slice-of-life episodes that directly impact the characters and their arcs, creating gradual changes to the characters and their dynamics and directly setting them up for the big plot-focused character beats. Aside from a few little hiccups, and the rushed climax (again due to the show just straight up getting cancelled) the show is very well paced when CN isn’t forcing it to be released in “Steven Bombs”.
@@legomeaker101potatoRemember that white diamond was supposed to have an entire season dedicated, but couldn't because of the show's cancelation
@@TLoMaCM2 it was their fault that they added a bunch of filler episodes that did nothing for the plot and then had to rush the show because they acted like they were invincible...
hell, it would have probably been better to just end it at reunion and have the rest be either lost to time or hope/ask for a sequel (which they ended up getting)
we still haven't had another season of teen titans but at least they didn't ruin the show with a crammed episode that goes against everything they established
Regarding horror: my daughter abandoned her first attempt at Steven Universe because she was horrified by Cat Fingers. She first tried to watch it around when she was five, I think, but we had to wait until after Future ended and she was like 9 I think before she could get through the body horror to watch the whole series.
I was turned off by Cat Fingers too! It was my very first episode when the show was originally coming out, but luckily I was old enough to push past it and give it another try faster
My first ep was the giant centipede episode
Same, Cat Fingers is probably my least favorite episode in the entire show. Not only is it weird and kind of gross, but it also has absolutely zero payoff later down the line (Steven never uses his shapeshifting to turn into things other than older/younger versions of himself, which is showcased much better in Too Many Birthdays) and the ending outright betrays Rebecca Sugar's vision for the show in that she "never wanted it to feel mean or ironic", yet the ending has Garnet scold Pearl for getting concerned about the cat fingers saying they should all trust more in Steven when it was GREG who saved the day. This episode is nothing but an off-putting waste of time.
@@rainpooper7088 They all grow to respect Greg more as the show goes on. It's clear from context clues at the start of the show that Greg was sort of a deadbeat before Steven started growing up a little. They didn't see him as useful for anything because he hadn't been since Rose left. I don't remember if they mention it, but the guy was almost definitely depressed, and they were angry at and not willing to acknowledge him because someone so powerless caused their leader and friend to disappear forever. Regardless, the payoff of that episode is learning that Steven doesn't shapeshift the way the rest of them do. He can alter himself but if he tries to manifest something, it'll appear as its own creature. This is because of his pink diamond powers, similar to growing sentient watermelons or his healing abilities. Amethyst can mimic other creatures, Steven can create them because he's a diamond and his powers work differently. This is one of the first hints we get that Steven isn't like the other gems so I'd say there's some payoff later down the line.
i was HORRIFIED by the episode where pearl died when it first aired. Easily one of the most horrifying episodes in season one.
It’s surprising hearing Steven Universe discourse again in 2024. I actually recently binged through the whole franchise for the first time since it ended and I still love it. It has its problems but for one issue, I have 15 positives for it. It’s top tier and one of my favorite shows ever.
I love that you singled out "It's Over" as being just about the best song in the show, because it's actually just so good. Deedee Magno Hall actually sang it way harder than was expected, to the point that they actually revised the scene to match the emotion she was putting into the song. If you look at the storyboards, Pearl looks a lot more reserved than she did in the final scene, and the fact that they had to change it to that degree just shows that it is one of, possibly THE best song in the show (Outside of one or two bangers in the movie in my opinion, but I mean if we're just talking the main series)
I was coming out of a breakup when I saw that episode, and It's Over Isn't It absolutely destroyed me. Just openly burst into tears in front of my family.
"What's the Use in Feeling Blue" is jilted and unsteady, it rocks around and stumbles over the beat. I... absolutely adore it. It is meant to show that Yellow Diamond is putting on this absolutely unbreakable facade but she's falling apart behind it. It is a very difficult song to sing, which I believe was to show off Patti LuPone's ability. Everything you said is absolutely true, but to me it all comes together to make this beautiful song about denying the pain of losing a family member.
Who's gonna be watching a Steven Universe Video at 3am?
Me: OH BOY 3AM
Same 😅
Oh boy, 1 am
Real
midnight for me
Quite literally exactly 3 a.m
You have reached your peak with thumbnails now. That Steven face is GOATED
YESS!!
I LOVE What's The Use Of Feeling Blue? BECAUSE it's so strange sounding it really sets up the diamonds as these powerful, unsettling, otherwordly beings and the strange music makes it harder for us the audience to immediately empathize with them the same way we could the other games through their songs, similar to what Steven himself is experiencing overhearing that moment.
For anyone who didn't watch the show while it was airing I cannot emphasize enough just how *brutal* the Steven bombs were. It was so hard to find people I knew still watching the show by season 4 because they had just lost interest due to the release model, not that I could blame them I was sort of teetering on that edge myself until a Single Pale Rose launched me back into aggressive interest again
We were really in the trenches for this show.... The horrors of the summer of Steven event, ugh *shudders
The Steven bomb release was the era of *Cartoon Network* it slowly became 24/7 TEEN TITANS which isnt a bad show but suffocated the end of the Big 3
The first season has a lot of episodes that are just "Steven spends time with his friends." And that's really important because it builds an audience investment in saving Earth, it establishes Steven's relationship with people, _and it shows us why Rose rebelled in the first place._ Season 1 establishes that human life and having relationships and spending time with people is important and valuable. _Humans doing human things is what fascinated Rose._
I watched Steven universe as a kid and idk how but when the season 4 plot twist happened with Aqua marine and she said my dad I gasped and remembered that zoom call Steven had w peridot and I was like “ AINT NO WAY IT TOOK 4 SEASONS FOR THAT TO BE RELEVANT”
26:06 everyone loves giant woman -FootofaFerret
I recently rewatched the entirety of Steven Universe (+the movie and future) and let me tell you, it was much more fun this time around without having to see all the fandom yapping and being insufferable about it
One thing I kinda like is how every episode seems connected. In a lot of cartoons I’ve watched things that happened earlier never gets talked about again, but in su everything seems connected, like we even get an explanation to why Steven always wears the same shirt
Two things you said during this video that I really wish more people online could take to heart
1. It’s okay to not like things because you don’t like them. You don’t need to make up reasons. Just let people enjoy what they like and know that you can just…not like something. Also people who don’t like things because they just don’t are valid.
2. Everything has problems, and it’s perfectly fine for people to just not care if they’re inconsequential. This doesn’t excuse, like, not caring if your favorite music artist is guilty of murder and got out after a year because they’re famous. It’s like stuff like Foafy said, characters being off model, pacing dragging, jokes not landing, and all that stuff.
TL;DR People can like and dislike what they please, neither needs justification. Art is subjective.
I remember someone on Twitter pointing this out and it makes Say Uncle even funnier to me as an episode. Uncle Grandpa foreshadows the Pink Diamond twist.
There’s a moment where UG looks at Steven’s gem and says “you should really get this thing polished at least once or twice a year”. That is actual advice given to people who sell or own diamonds
What's the use of feeling blue is my favorite Steven universe song. All the points mentioned (in my not-a-musician opinion) add to yellow diamond, not a wholly cold person, but a sister that shut her emotions off. The rigidness and out of sink feel hit the point that she wouldn't allow herself to feel like blue.
Good video, but there is one problem
He didn’t address one of the biggest and actual criticism of the show which is the only thing people still for now-days
The redemption and message of peace
People will occasionally complain about the messy schedule, the amount of focus given to Tertiary characters and the constant whiplash (also the awful comedy)
But things like how Bismuth is 100% dismissed on getting rid of the diamonds when the diamonds have a body count on the millions, or how Lapis was the abusive one in the malachite relationship (lapis herself said she liked hurting Jasper) and how UNSATISFACTORY was to see the diamonds just cry and never face the consequences of making things like the cluster or destroying all organic life from hundreds of planets (yes I know it was done because they were too powerful to be dethroned but that doesn’t mean it isn’t unsatisfactory)
I can see what you were trying to do but when saying the reason the show is so hated for “bad faith criticism” and “hate towards fandom” while dismissing this one glaring issue people still mention to this day (seriously, every time steven is mentioned is to hype up a show which punishes their villains)
I like Gregs songs. I really enjoy the one where he tours in the beach city and Rose hears him for the first time. It's solid garage rock vibes and his voice is totally on point, along with the great music. Also the duet between Greg and Rose is amazing too. I really don't know why you dissin on my man. I think if Mr. Universe was a real musician, I'd buy his album.
My only issue with SU is how religiously it tried to give the villains redemptions, and felt kind of dismissive of the actual fascism the diamonds (especially white) carried out. I do still love the show regardless, as it is a phenomenal work of art in so many ways. I'm of the opinion that it's because of shows like Steven Universe that we could get true gems (get it?) like The Owl House. It showed that you could have LGBT representation without losing fans.
Not mentioning the Jam song and Both if you while mentioning the most beautiful songs in SU is CRIMINAL
Hold up, did he say “5 and a half years”?? My guy, it’s been SEVEN
He meant 5 and a Half years from Change your mind
@@Tobi5a *Change Your Mind
@@Tobi5a it's only been 4 and a half since future
then i think 13 since season 1
@@inqyr4707he might be talking about the movie, as the finale of the OG SU
The episode Mr. Greg was actually a tester for the movie musical
I really like the feeling when you bring back an old favorite thing, the feeling, the nostalgia, the laugh, the cry and all the emotions makes me feel young again
Steven Universe is my favorite show too. Im currently rewatching it with my friend who hasn't seen it. love your videos man!
Where is it streaming?
@@cyborgisdumHBO Max or just max as it’s called now
@@cyborgisdumOk, I don’t know why it’s like the but
Hulu has the first four seasons, movie, and future, but no season 5
Max has all five seasons and future, but no movie
I can’t believe you didn’t mention how good “What Can I Do for You?”🎶 is💔
Especially since the voice actress for Rose was also the lady who voiced Meg in Hercules😩🥹 (I won’t say (I’m in love) for reference)
I love this video, I just didn’t think I was the only one who loved that song. 🤷🏻♀️
Oh, I adore that song, it's one of my favs. And in my vocal range which is nice :)
I think the reason most of the people who can't stand Steven Universe is that Rose Quartz plot twist and the ending (the White Diamond redemption)
I was iffy about those two, but its a shame how bad critisism those aspects receive - there's clearly lot of thought and build up into the reveal of Rose Quartz and if you ignore White Diamonds getting redeemed too easily, the ending of original show is awesome (we see some crazy fusions and Steven split, which was heavily forshadowed).
I was trying to figure out, why most of the people hate it so much.
The best asnwer i could come up with is that... fans felt betrayed.
People been feeling very emotional about the show. In their eyes the Rose plot twist was a huge character assassination for most of the cast, because it completely recontextualize... everything and perhaps even ruins some of the characters development (like Garnet). It's also difficult to understand Pink diamond motivation. She looks extremely selfish on the surface, thats why the reveal might feel dumb, when it actually has so much layers.
Similarly with White Diamond, she was build up to such an opressing, inhumane force that people really had high expectation (aspecially since finally showed her to be even more threatening than we thought), so defeating her so easily seems very unrealistic - the fact is though, you can't really have a different ending. Shatering her was not an option.
There's also other thing why people hate the ending i think - it's the heaviness of the themes around the White Diamond.
I think for many people White Diamond is almost an allegory for conservative parent who wants to control everything in their family life. Steven facing her, it's almost like theallegory of someone getting out of closet.
So for people relating to this so heavily, for the conflict to be resolved so easily with some magic emotion powers, is just a betreyal. You can't use the cheap way like that when dealing with your parents.
But ironically thats exactly the reason, why they couldnt imprison or kill her!
Honestly, I think Rebbecca and her stuff simply wrote themselves into a corner. There is No good way of resolving this conflict easily in a way it would both feel realistic way of defeating a space tyrant AND make amends with her as Steven's family.This two things shouldn't be tangled together.
The only way to do it realistically is to have a long arc of redemption just like Peridot had, with lot of struggle and even rebounds. But again, we dont have time for it.
I think the way i would wrote it... I would switch the things a little. I would make White Diamond visit the Earth BEFORE her change of mind and not after.
She clearly lives in a bubble and believes she knows best and makes everyone the happiest they can be. L:et her see the horror of cluster, mutated gems, forced fusion. Show her how she literally made everything worse. It wouldn't be enough to villain to go 180, but it would put a crack on the shell she lives inside.
Wow i didn't expect to write so much, sorry for my bad english and if you managed to read all of this, props to you, thank's for your time
There’s definitely a lot of bad faith criticism that gets lobbed at the show (I’m sure most of us have at least heard of Lily Orchard’s infamous “Steven Universe is Garbage” video) that’s completely unjustified. There’s a huge difference between giving actual criticism and just being nitpicky, and that’s something we could all benefit from working out the difference between
I watched it and I don’t think it’s nitpicky.
@@kaykay8855 It's not. People have a problem with Lily already and have invented this entire image of her being this hateful, evil person out of nowhere because she said something negative about the cartoon they liked (mostly by pointing out it's flaws) and they reacted in the typical fanboy way of harassment and relying on her abusers, stalkers, and other completely unhinged people to justify their hatred of her so they can feel better about themselves. It's fucking dumb honestly. The fact that OP is calling her original video (which she's gone back and made two separate videos addenduming and fixing, so the original is not even her most accurate feeling anymore) "bad faith criticism" is fucking ironic considering their entire "criticism"-- which is just "angry lady was mean about my blorbo/favorite show", of that old video and of Lily is completely in bad faith to begin with.
@@cannibalisticrequiem I know. I like most of her critiques because unlike a lot of critics she doesn’t preface by saying it’s my opinion, it’s a given that it’s her opinion and she’s not going to praise and it’s good despite her opinion. If she thinks it’s bad, then that’s her right. Have you seen the recent videos about her.
@@cannibalisticrequiem No, the video is just plain bad and flat out wrong at almost every point, no research, shows massive disrespect and slanders innocent, good people. She's a grifter and Lily has actual allegations on her from all the real bad crap she's done in real life. Don't make bad strawmans.
I'd like to disagree with comments defending Lily. A lot of the critiques are in bad faith, but yes she did change her mind on some of the opinions stated in her video. However, that does not disregard the obvious bad faith in her video. If you want to watch a video disproving her claims, there's one made by Hiding in Private which is a more respectful response to her video. No insults towards her or any drama, but pointing out the misinformation and disrespect being spread.
I really like that bit at the end about fandom bias.
Being a fan of My Little Pony, I can relate to that.
How was Stronger than you not mentioned in music?
It's literally the reason i started watching the show, i stayed for the great show, but it all began with me seeing this absolute BANGER
I feel like that song was the moment the show *really* hit it big. Even after all these years, I still think it's the best song.
The Uncle Grandpa crossover episode is hilarious. I love it so much, and I love that it foreshadows multiple plot details like Steven being a Diamond and not a Quartz and sinking Lars and Sadie's ship. It's canon as far as I'm concerned.
Steven Universe will probably always be my comfort show. I’ve rewatched it many times and still find new gems (pun intended lol) that add to to show and foreshadow later events.
27:35 THANK YOU, I hated “what’s the use of feeling blue” and everytime I showed someone this song they would straight up fight with me about not liking the song. I get why they have the song as it shows how Yellow Diamonds deals with grief but, it’s nails to a chalkboard on my ears. When I was first watching the show I skipped the song half way threw and it was the only song I skipped during my watch.
I absolutely love this show, you make some great points here!! But i don't see the part about songs being forgettable, it's over isn't it is also a classic. love the music! Rebecca DEFINITELY knew what she was doing!! :3
I didn’t fully sit down and watch Steven universe front to back till last year. When I was younger I’ve seen enough to have it impact my art style. I’ve been fully fully obsessed since last year and I’ve binged watched it about 10 times with future following right after
31:19 the problem with the consistency is that you can have characters go off model for comedy... but when the story gets serious? you have to have a consistent baseline for the characters (teen titans constantly went off model but whenever the fights were on? you never though "wait is beast boy bigger than cyborg?" which... happens in stephen universe... a LOT)
Thats the thing though. you say you "have" to have a consistent baseline for a serious narrative.
I don't think so. I think that's just what we are used to. If you are deep in the story, you look past the animation errors and forget that these are not real people. when it comes to the media we love the writing, music, sound, and visuals all work to pull you in, but there will always be parts we look past in favor of the bits we like.
I feel like if the off model stuff is enough to put a person off the show there are other bigger things they don't like, and the inconsistency stands out more when you aren't fully locked in.
That's not to say visuals c
ant ruin a scene, they can, but I always question how much people really are bothered by the off model stuff, or if that's just the end of a much longer list of gripes.
@@Gatekid3 writing and visuals are affected by the consistency of the animation. character sizes determine certain leverage and actions that can be taken in a fight, but if the sizes are constantly changing it is hard to imagine how they can change the tide of the battle or how they can be at and advantage/disadvantage.
can people ignore things they don't mind? sure. but that doesn't change the fact that it IS a problem and that it can take some people out of the story. (if it doesn't for you? thats great... but it was an issue for me and for some other people)
when I am deep into a story? I look deeper into it, I don't look past it, hell that is why I love the peridot arc but hate the white diamond one, because once you look deep into the character motivations and writing you see how the characters go from evil to good by having their beliefs be challenged constantly until they see how their ways aren't right and how they need to change is awesome... and then when the story skips past that for the final villain it just... falls flat...
also... there is a reason why we are used to consistency... because it is a standard, and shows we like should be held up to high standards and not just look past the issues because we like them. for me being a fan of something isn't mindlessly accepting everything it does, being a fan is being won over by something and being critical when those things are no longer being done
@@legomeaker101potato You are kind of jumping to all kinds of extremes
I'm not saying visuals don't matter. You are right. in a show where height is important, having characters change shape all the time could ruin everything. Steven universe doesn't rely on that same visual clarity **(except with Pink's gem. the amount/shape of facets on pink and steven's gem are different and thats the only visual error that bugged me because that is the big twist of the show).**
Even if Amethyst's height shifts, it's never to the point where it could have changed the outcome of any fight. She's always shorter than Jasper so the dynamic is never in question.
I'm not even saying it CAN'T be an issue. I'm just saying I have a hard time believing thats the main thing if it puts you off of the show. If its a flaw you see in a show you like, fine.
I have problems with some of the writing.By "look past", all i mean is this flaw doesnt ruin the show.
I'm talking specifically about being bothered by it enough to think the show isnt worth watching, because some people bring it up like it's a much bigger deal than it is.
being a fan isnt blindly accepting. I'm sure your favorite show has flaws that bug you, and some that don't. I'm not going to call you a blind worshiper for being able to enjoy SU despite hating the white diamond arc.
Hope that makes what I said more clear. I also nitpick shows more when I like them, but generally its easier for me to say art mistakes are a bigger deal when I'm already snowballing from other issues.
Foafy, why are you keeping me up past two AM?
He has that effect
Me watching this at 5:44 am:
I heard Steven universe is coming back Rebecca Sugar is thinking of bringing it back
Whyyyyyy, we need to let it test for real
@@N0Xcnhow about you go “test”? Permanently
@@Omni601 oh shush, you obviously understood what I meant. Also I just think the story has run its course and that it'd be better to create something new or at the very least make new characters within the same universe instead of trying to milk Steven and Co for more stories that they're obviously running out of
@@N0Xcnsure, I COMPLETELY understand what your talking about. I feel the same about other shows, but I love the characters so much that I wouldn't mind another canon media about them.
Also since the people who watched steven universe when it was airing were kids or teens, its lets the story writers write more muture but still family friendly topic.
I wouldn't mind it coming back, but it doesnt have to. Would love to check back up with Steven and Connie's relationship though 😅
From what I know the bulk of the shows problems were due to the horrific level of infighting amongst staff behind the scenes. The show was not managed well and different people wanted different things. You had one writer who wanted Peridot to be with Lapis, one who wanted Peridot to be ace, and one who didn't care about any of that and wanted to do a redemption arc, and Rebecca just shrugging and not really reigning it in. The art issues are a sympton of this disfunction, they aren't an issue on their own, but
This also caused a lot of the pacing issues(though CN bares some blame there by inventing Steven Bombs), and the issues with the diamonds. Rebecca wanted them to mostly be used as a metaphor for dysfunctional families.
Some writers trying to stick to that leaned them in-universe to be more akin to Greek or Roman goddesses, you can't really stop them, but they can learn and not pull Zeus-tier shenanigans on the regular(looking at you too Pink). But you also had writers(especially in S2 or 3) going more for the Space Dictatorship vibe(allegedly both the way Yellow was written in Message Received and the villainous shot of the Diamond in the full version of the S2 intro were both hated by Rebecca). Plus there was the chronic issue of the S1 era writers who wanted to do episodic character and townie episodes putting heads with the newer writers who wanted to focus on the ongoing story.
SU was an objectively badly run show.
(And I find this deeply ironic given Adventure Time had a similar problem in it's mid-seasons and that was Rebecca's prior job. Reigning in your writers and artists is really important or you'll have a too many cooks situation)
I love how this show sets things up. Even the episode Frybo (probably the first episode I see on people's list of filler) was setting up for the future episodes. Frybo showed that gem shards are still sentient and can provide "life" to the things they inhabit. 100% setting up for things like the gem experiments/cluster, as well as lapis in mirror!
As for the music, at first I thought his thoughts were rediculous. I mean how can you not like a Steve Universe song, but then I remembered I just love music. Any and all music I love, so your thoughts and views are fine, but I'm gonna sit over here and listen to all of Greg's songs over again and love them!
I think the word "filler" needs to be put on a shelf out of reach from talks about this show. Filler isn't some word you can throw out whenever the episode isn't actively progressing the story in an original series.
no no. you do not get to diss greg songs. i will RIOT
The shows message and the metaphors and allegories used to communicate it is very good, but it comes across like Rebecca Sugar put whats happening on a metaphorical level ahead of whats literally happening so you get a lot of important scenes that should have been shown(Lapis apologizing to Peridot, the founding of Homeworlds democracy, the Diamonds freeing their pearls) only being mentioned in individual lines of dialogue or implied.
THE BEST SONGS IN STEVEN UNIVERSE ARE “other friends” AND THE SEASON 1 OUTRO AND YOU CANT CHANGE MY MIND
The reason that I’m not gunna watch Steven Universe is because I was spoiled for most of the big plot beats and the story doesn’t speak to me. I love shows about dealing with trauma, and the episodes of Steven universe that I did watch were great with that, but I don’t wanna watch a show about trauma and the consequences of war when I know that it will end with the Diamonds being forgiven.
I understand if you like it, and it’s a happy ending for everyone, but I can’t help the bad taste in my mouth that gives me. I’m glad great people like you can enjoy it!
That’s fair and that was a criticism I definitely agreed with. The ending felt far too kumbayah, everyone hold hands. They do kind of address it in the sequel, where it’s made very obvious that Steven’s definitely not forgiven them buuuuuutttt, idk, the sequel had its own problems.
Welp, I was about to go to bed. Now I shall sleep no longer
Me to lol
I’ve probably watched this show like 10 times over the course of these past 2 years! It’s genuinely become one of my comfort shows, I really wish I’d gotten into it earlier. I know that I would of LOVED it when it was airing :)
I would say the biggest issue about the story is how little of Episodes Cartoon Network gave Steven for the later seasons. They did make Rebecca Sugar speed through the last seasons before the show even reached its peak. You can blame the weird cookie cutter bs on that, she wants to make more Steven U and make the story more full and indepth, but she wants there to be a huge backing for it.
Man, you donmt like the Greg songs? He’s like my favorite singer out of all of them. I’d love to have a full album by Mr. Universe!
My history with Steven Universe is really complicated. When I saw commercials for it as a kid I honestly thought it looked really stupid. In my defense this was the same year Cartoon Network premiered Teen Titans Go and Uncle Grandpa so I thought it was gonna be something like that. So I ignored it for a long time until a few years later when I started becoming active online and I heard people praising the show left and right. So naturally that peaked my curiosity, but then of course I also started hearing a lot of backlash as well and that left me a bit confused. So I decided I'd finally give it a chance and watched the entire thing on Max a couple years ago. And now it's one of my favorite cartoons of all time, I loved it.
I would totally want to see a Fiona and cake style series that’s all about the gem wars I feel like that would be super super interesting
YESSSS following the homeschool gems but in the war, centi gets an ep, pearl rose garnet and bismuth show up often aughhh id die for it
Fun fact: Pretty sure the cookie cat song foreshadowed the gem war.
20:06 since Bo Burnham has been my hyper fixation for about a week, hearing you say that was mind shattering XD
Thanks for making this video, it was a really good watch for me cause it aligns really well with my own thoughts. I still love the show too but I also think it's one I'm a lot less likely to get the urge to rewatch than a lot of other shows. It has a lot of charm to it but in many areas it just doesn't feel like it reached the heights that it should have. And it's unfortunate just how much CN's obsession with Stevenbombs back in the day messed with the pacing. The series actually felt noticeably better paced to me on rewatch than it did watching it as it aired, but it's so noticeable that most story arcs were pretty much designed around the bomb format.
I love how when he said shit he used the warp pad sound effect, and said that stereotypical bleep
5:05 LOL AS SOON AS YOU MENTIONED IT I NOTICED THE BACKGROUND YOU AIN'T SLICK RYDER /pos
27:35 thats litterally my favourite song!!!!!😭
Im so happy he still makes Steven universe videos
I just found out your channel and holy moly your videos are so good
I can’t express how much this series means to me. It will always be my favourite ever! I Even just downloaded the "unleash the light" game😊 watched it since the beginning when i was 8
I thought that I will never hear him ask this
Yes, yes I do
it was crazy hearing you hadn’t rewatched the whole show since it ended bc for me i end up rewatching it at least twice a year 😭😭 HAHA it’s just such a comfort show imo i could watch it over and over
I fell in love with this show thanks to Hiding in public and Sai scribbles. I believed such nonsense about SU and now I adore the series. SU has everything I love: feminine aesthetics, symbolism, foreshadowing and emphasis on emotions. It's such a sweet, heartfelt show and I'm so happy I'm getting to experience it.
If you miss su:
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Meh
I miss it like I miss summer break.
I’m showing a friend Steven Universe
How is this 16h ago?!?!?!?!
@@aubreypotter96 because the video was uploaded 16 hours ago?
My hot take: Rebecca Sugar stole the entire Land of the Lustrous concept and themes(lesbian rocks with ptsd vs gen*cidal alien invaders) and removed all buddhist philosophy. And then never got called out for blatant plagiarism
The manga for that anime was first released in 2012, by that time Rebecca already had been making a lot of concept art for Steven Universe and had planned pretty much the entire main story, some of the ideas even pre-date 2009.
@@DroopzirSaur Haruka Ichikawa said in the interview that the idea came to her when she was in a buddhist highschool way before 2009 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
anyway, most story beats in Steven universe repeat the plot of the manga (joyful mc becomes more jaded, enemies send ufos to hunt our heroes, the good guys leader is actually a villain who was on the bad guys side, the bad guys commit gemocide(pun intended), mc goes to the enemy homeworld,
the alien invaders are not what they seem and so on and so on σᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ
@@Astareia7312 are you trying to say rebecca sugar magically knew what Haruka Ichikawa was thinking before any thing was made public?? What that she broke in to the house and copied down every idea she could find?? also lmfao none of the beats you mentioned are specific ONLY to these titles
"joyful mc becomes more jaded," SOOOO many franchises and movies have done this especially in anime which both these works are obviously inspired by
"enemies send ufos to hunt our heroes" happens all of the time in space/alien media
"the good guys leader is actually a villain who was on the bad guys side" not exactly what happened in SU but that is not unique to either show, the "rebellion is being led by a dissenting member of the elite" happens plenty, usually its a runaway prince who objects to the evil ways of the court oh hey thats what happened in SU!
"the bad guys commit gemocide" WOW its almost like genocide is a very obviously bad thing that "the bad guys" do all of the time in media :,D!!
"mc goes to the enemy homeworld," again happens all of the time in space/alien media basically any time the heroes are fighting an alien army or even just involves aliens that's gonna happen
"the alien invaders are not what they seem" WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE IT seriously though SO many shows that have a war between heroes and villains will have the heroes realize that the "evil side" isn't just a flat 2D charicature of endless unfeeling Saturday morning cartoon villains
the most unique similarities are that they have an a race of genderless femme presenting humanoid gem people who can be shattered but not really die and can fuse together, which a lot of that feels fairly obvious stemming from the question "What would a species made up of gems look like?" and the following questions "can/how do they die?" "do the mangled bodies just sit there crying in agony for eternity?" "do they have biological sexes and sexual dimorphism?" (the answer for both creators was obviously was no I want to draw a bunch of pretty women and there's nothing wrong with that)
Actually they both feel like just the femme versions of the typical "Rock people species" that exist in all sorts of media!! i.e. big gray mostly masculine piles of rocks so the real starting question would have been "what if a species of rocks wasn't just a bunch of big gray men?" everything is inspired by something, also not every idea has to be unique! :D sometimes good ideas get reused this dosen't automatically make them bad because they existed before.
@@shanon4768 I think she heard about the manga, started reading it and unconsciously started copying it
I actually enjoy the continuity. I like figuring it out on initial watch and the revisiting it on a re-watch, it is the main reason why adventure time is my favorite show. When something seemingly small in the show is introduced and then called back in an insane and world twisting way, it is just so cool seeing how big the world is and how things that come back years down the line. Obviously there are times where it is done poorly and it gets messy and overloaded but most of the time it is so good
One thing I will say that’s always stuck with me:
So Steven’s saliva can basically heal anything. From completely restoring someone’s eyesight to resurrecting the dead. With Lars, I’ll give some leeway since he may have still had some brain activity and wasn’t completely dead.
So why is Steven still in Beach City?
Shouldn’t he be touring the world’s hospitals? Going into cancer wards and instantly healing people. Yeah the healthcare industry might suffer some financial losses but i think given his character, Steven would definitely want to help people.
yes you do
Sixth btw also nice video
no you aren’t.
I am sixth
@@FNAF_Plushie_Worldhe actually is sixth, sort them by newest, go to the bottom and count up until you get to this one.
Steven Universe is a show I also have to rewatch! As a kid I could only access it at certain times, so I watched it inconsistently. But i genuinely think that SU wouldn’t be able to survive today because of the current industry, so I’m happy that it came out and got to tell a finished and well developed story before it went away for good. It laid so much more foundation for representation and experimentation for cartoons airing today! I truly think it’s a special and important show that should be respected.
Change is my FAVORITE song from the whole Steven universe timeline.
And omg, it slaps.
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This is just a cliche comment now
That's true
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Nice
One view in 20 seconds? Bro fell off..
This video makes me want to rewatch Steven universe. I’ll be in my room for the next 3 days.
of course i get this when i'm stuck on this series, i love it i love foafy, thank you
This is funny timing since I literally just started rewatching the series this week, Im on ep. 28 of season 1 rn
The 2 am upload is crazy
I actually did this recently too. I went back and watched Steven Universe all the way through for the first time since it ended. And I still really love it. I actually really like a lot of the songs and instrumental tracks, the characters are memorable, and it's one of the most unique cartoons out there. I do agree that the pacing is weird sometimes (although season 1 did make me laugh more than I thought it would), but the good story beats are some of the best I've ever seen. And it was kind of fun getting to certain episodes and remembering the hype around them and how people online reacted at the time, it was like a stroll down memory lane. I definitely see why people wouldn't like this show though, it's not for everyone and I say if people watch the whole first season and don't like it, they're probably not going to like the rest. It's still one of my favorite cartoons though and I think I'll always love it.
I started watching Steven Universe because of you! It’s one of my favorites now.
Never thought I'd see the day he would make a Steven Universe video in a LONG while
Garnet is such a lovely character, but "Uh, I like me" is just hilarious
Damn FoaFy posting at 2am like a madlad
Hey footofaferret remember adventure time? Well a movie of it is now in development my CN! I can’t wait to see your video on that lol
I'd have to disagree with your take on Greg's songs. Tom Sharpling is such an amazing singer and I always get excited when I hear them come on.
Rose liked them, Steven likes them, and Greg even mentions he went on a tour once. It's obvious that Steven's sing-songy talent comes from his Dad. Greg even became a millionaire with Comet being turned into an ad. It'd be really hard to convince the audience that Greg was at least somewhat popular if the songs were bad lol
I read this title and laughed because I remeber waiting for your SU videos
it feels like yesterday that Steven Universe has ended. Crazy how time flies.
Also never thought I’d be watching Foofa @3 am but here we are😅
It's one of the only shows I rewatched because I wanted to and not just because I wanted to refresh my memory. I knew the story, I knew how it ended, but it's still such a fun show to watch.
This show was such a great time back then. It was quite the experience
Petition for Foafy to make a steven universe songs tier list (like Jord did)
Did he just say 5 1/2 years? It’s been 11 years since the show came out.
It's been 5 1/2 years since it ended
My favorite part of Steven universe is that EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE is really important!!