Tray Pay ehh some soldiers are just lunatics, but most are just following orders. But a certain portion of the blame has to be put on them for making the choice to go.
I’m not a fan of war, especially indiscriminate bombing of families (“collateral damage”) via drones, but I would go fight in a heartbeat to defend our country. I don’t agree with our wars in Vietnam, Iraq and all the covert operations in South and Central America. However, I would be the first to sign up to fight in WW2 or in Afghanistan after 911. Not all wars are the same, so spread your blame and your praise appropriately.
@@bhillis99 why is there charities for the richest military? How are they fighting for My FREEDOM OF SPEECH, RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, & Illegal Searches and seizures in FORGEIN COUNTRIES??? Military are a bunch of Traitors.
Which is one of the reasons that western nations are still in Afghanistan. The CIA released a brief several years ago that called Afghanistan the Saudi Arabia of Lithium. It literally sits on one of the biggest rare earth deposits discovered. Then there’s the opium...
I don't see how getting involved in wars in middle east or elsewhere are protecting our freedom here in Britain or the US and it's nothing close to ww2 situation which had to be fought.
There's always going to be rogue terrorist groups. It would be impossible to go and kill them all off. I was thinking the exact same thing, I just didn't want to be the one to say it.
Note that WW2 could have been averted also, and people knew it at the time. European (and Asian) antifa fought to prevent the rise of fascism (Spanish Civil War, Antifa vs. Fash street battles all over the place) in the inter-war years, but of course the liberal capitalist governments weren't entirely certain that fascists were that bad, and the USSR didn't trust any leftist movements they didn't control.
Yeah and some people are more good and some people, like say people who strap bombs to women and children, are more evil. Don’t fall for the everything is relative crap, true good exists and so does real evil and the current incarnation of the Taliban is evil.
@William Brown He isn’t calling terrorist good. He said “we all” as in you and me, everyone. Do you think those terrorists were “evil” as little boys before being indoctrinated? It all depends on how much of yourself you give to one or the other.
CChissel Thats not all he is saying, he had another comment where he said evil is subjective and relative to how you are raised. I am arguing that there is such thing as objective evil and terrorists are objectively evil.
Absolutely crazy story. Love hearing different POV’s and hearing stories of what happens out there... definitely helps you see how other areas are dealing w/certain conflicts. Etc
Both of them have such a hard on for america and their patriotism and the brainwashing of "we're the best" "we're the good guys" and "we're fighting the evil doers" with zero critical analyses of the situation. This is not to say that I wholly disagree with them, just that they seem to do a disservice by only providing surface level analyses to a complex issue with deep roots and ugly parts where America, Canada (my country), and the rest of the "western" world were clearly the "bad" guys and "evil" doers, or at least complicit in the "evil" that created these terrorist cells we fight today.
Iraq had an authoritarian despot who participated and encouraged in Secret police, state terrorism, torture, mass murder, genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, deportations, extrajudicial killings, forced disappearances, assassinations, chemical warfare. Today they have a democratically elected leader. Get off your contrarian high-horse. Terrorist cells existed before the US entered Iraq and will persist forever. You don't get to blame the US for going in there and shooting the guy who has a boot on the throat of the population. You act like the US created these people when it was the oppression by Saddam which you seem in favour which was what kept them contained. Getting the boot off innocent's necks' also got the boot off terrorist's necks. Freedom is far more important than security.
Weird, I've met people from all over the world and they ALL believe where ever they are from "WE (insert country) ARE THE BEST, WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS". People from all over Europe, China, Japan, Mexico, etc. What's even more ridiculous is the people who come to the USA but still believe that where ever they came from is some how still the best.
@@mothmandan You are a crazy person if you believe that. Not our problem what they do to themselves. We backed "Sadam", and made him what he was with our money and arms.
"I hope that one day you can bring your family here for vacation." Fucking teared up man. That's heavy. This is a great perspective you bring to the table. People need to hear this.
Some of the most beautiful places and people I saw were in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think Iraq is on track to stabilizing but Afghan tribal culture needs to diminish
Why we fight in Afghanistan: Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.
Actually, they have the largest deposits of dilithium crystals which we use to power our antimatter reactors that feed our warp engines...and that's the reason we're in Afghanistan. I can't believe we still have to explain this in 2019.
RanHarasaki well during the Islamic revolution in Iran they used the education system to further solidify Islamic extremism in the youth. So it’s not a simple truth
Jordan 33 alright smarty pants. You and I both know the education I’m speaking of is the kind that promotes economic mobility. Do you really need someone to spell that out for u? Use your brain dude.
I never once heard anyone say we were fighting the country of Afghanistan. Everyone knows the fighting is against terrorist cells not against Afghanistan itself.
@BigErn_Mccraken I was referring to how they say that "we have to fight them there so that we don't fight them here" narrative, that's never been a real thing, but you're right there are some sad parallels between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War.
I enjoy listening to his perspective but I disagree with him saying that’s there’s two types of people, that being good or evil. I believe good or evil is subjective, some people might believe what they’re doing is good but only for someone else across the world to determine it’s actually bad. Edit # 1: Then factor in the people who disseminate the information pertaining to a war and what biases or ulterior motives they have. A starting example would be the Iran-Contra Affair
Most vets or members of military believe in good and evil. It's what helps them take lives without remorse. The moment that soldier thinks of how similar he is to his enemy, that's the moment he loses
Ummm, USA is definitely not the only place on the planet where you can be anyone you want to be. I live on a little island called Australia where I reckon we have it better, free-er & easier. Also, there’s New Zealand close by & they have it even better than us I reckon.
You guys get censored to shit. Easier is probably true. Better is subjective. More free is objectively untrue. America is more free and that comes with a cost.
No but I don't see why that changes anything. Look at the other comments and you'll get an idea. For more of an idea, watch American sniper, he is being exactly like 'the legend'.
I've heard Rogan say numerous times that the main reason why the US is in Afghanistan is to guard the poppy fields. (Mucho respect to this marine. I support the military. But I do not support the corporate control of the military)
J S ummm did you not hear what he was saying they are fighting next to us not only to eliminate evil bad people destroying their country ? You really don’t think that could spread across the world like a fungus is it’s not dealt with? You really think we just run up in a country and do what we do just because we want to? I hope your not that closed minded
@@3SIXTYPROD "You really think we just run up in a country and do what we do just because we want to?" That's exactly what you lot do. Sometimes you do it to help those democracy loving allies Saudi Arabia and UAE. Sometimes it is done through covert measures like bribing and blackmailing politicians. Sometimes assassinations and coups. Sometimes drone strikes. Not always boots on the ground.
I don't see what's wrong with those statements... at all. Finding something to be evil shouldn't justify killing over. I think it's evil not to guarantee healthcare to every civilian. It's barbaric. Third world country style. You saying that justifies Germany declaring a war on the US?
@@arbynChief617 Not in my view. It's subjective. But to let people go homeless because of a debt the received because they got ill... is in my view... evil.
I just finished listening to the entire Jacko podcast... Dakota, there are no words I can think of that will ever be able to truly show you how much respect I have for you. The classic phrase "True American Hero" was just redefined in my eyes because of you.
I never joined the military, I was raised by it. Civilians that never hear the truth of war from those that were there will never know the what it's like. So, in order to educate myself further, I went online and searched for the most horrific pictures and videos I could find in order to get a vague idea. I now have the deepest respect for all soldiers of the armed forces.
uhhh, they didn't fight for "freedom" - just like most wars, the people who fight and die do it needlessly (canon fodder). Their bodies, minds, and spirit's should have been sent to build and help.
since you have no actual working knowledge of why we were there, or what we actually did over there, perhaps you should keep your soy to yourself or nut up and join. We were not fighting, we fought, but only when necessary. Most of our days were spent doing safety, diplomacy, securing democratic elections, going town to town handing out grants for infrastructure like generators and water pumps, treating sick people. In the course of those duties we often got attacked and that did require overwhelming response, but we were defending the good people of iraq as much as ourselves.
@@Oldsoldiersays bullshit You invaded a sovereign country, you bombed innocents together with soldiers from the other side, you created more terrorists ,or , for the ones who only attack invading soldiers, resistance. Like in Iraq US was / is the aggresor . Just recently US droned farmers ... farmers
@@davidfirdavidfir3778 lmao, lighten up on the coolaid my man. Yes we invaded, thats why its called the iraq war. We were there for a purpose, finished that, then transitioned to rebuilding, then right when we were almost done, got pulled out early. Innocents died yes, not very many by US hands and those people were incredibly well compensated, something never done before in war. Strife doesn't create terrorists, islam does, and as non-believers we are always the prey.
@@Oldsoldiersays Funny how islam has existed for thousands of years, yet terrorism only came to life when the west started interfering in the affairs of arab muslim countries. Stop acting like the world police, let the UN deal with that, just let other countries do what they feel. Can you honestly tell me that 'rebuilding' is working? Look at these massive iraq protests going on now, look at libya now, do you honestly think that american interference made these countries better?
" I hope one say you can bring your family here on vacation" that almost made me cry... what alot of people.dont understand is we soldiers we aren't fighting for the politicians.. oil rights etc etc.. most soldiers are fighting for two things.. to provide for our families and to make the world a better place... there's more brotherhood and camaraderie than anything. And you get overseas and you work with these individuals that want the "American Dream" just like our ancestors wanted when they fought for our country. This is the part the news never shows. We made brothers and sisters overseas.. and all they want is the same thing all of us want back here at home.
When I was in Afghanistan in 2017 we fought with Taliban to fight isis in RC East. I’ve seen isis do barbaric shit we save a girl about 11 or 12 she had no eyes we asked why and they said isis cut her eyes out so she couldn’t run away from her rapist. It gives me fucking chills to this day seeing something so evil
Tell that to all of the families being terrorized, murdered, and they’re children raped by said organizations prior to us going over there, you obviously didn’t even watch the fucking video
"We" do the same thing. Creating the "other" is the issue. There is no other. There are corrupt people in power that allow things to happen that shouldn't, and a populace that believes propaganda rather than inform themselves... but it's actually getting better, not worse. Nice try though.
Scott Charney maybe unnecessary but inevitable all the same. The violence will happen, the location, time and magnitude can be manipulated but not avoided.
I super wish I could remember the name of the researcher, and he probably isnt that hard to find. I watched a Ted Talk in which he talked about his entire career being focused on the psychological impact of military training and combat. He stated, after a career of research, that a higher risk of suicide once military men enter back into society is not linked to combat experience. He said that the correlation with higher suicide tendencies begins in TRAINING. Being militarily trained unfortunately means that you are statistically more likely to commit suicide. I'll just never forget how that made me feel. These people are set up for a life of hardship from the get-go. These people give up everything to serve and protect us. I'm so thankful for all of our service men and women.
Funny how countries with valuable natural resources always need our soldier's long term "help" isn't it?. I bet Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman and all those Afghan opium farmers really appreciate his service..
Exactly, but he is too young to see through the chitfuzzery he was told. Some day he will see through it, and then have to live with himself, like so many men from Vietnam and other wars. I feel badly for him because the future is going to be rougher than the present, if he has an IQ above 90.
Shane Annigans Well you need to keep trying to better yourself if you don’t understand what that implies. Yea, there is either good or evil people. There are degrees within each of those two polarising aspects. BUT when u add perspective into the mix, the good and evil becomes relative and good guys can simultaneously become the evil guys and vice versa.
Name one person who that has happened to in the past 50 years. Who came from nothing and became president? Saying it does not make it true. Is it possible? Sure. Has it happened? No.
@@FuzionBranz the point is he keeps saying "marketing" quotes about America that are not true. He doesn't know how video games affect children, often not making them more violent, but actually making them see what violence causes and avoiding it rather than participating in real life. People used to gang up to fight people, not pull out their cameras. Plenty of other countries play violent video games and have less people causing violence. It's not the games.
Who was the last president who "came from nothing"? Harry Truman? His family had a successful farm, and he was able to afford to go to college, but definitely the poorest of the 20th century anyway. For someone who truly started from NOTHING, you might have to look all the way back to Andrew Jackson? Depends on your definition of nothing, I suppose, but definitely not in most people's lifetimes has anyone achieved that. edit: I forgot Lincoln, he PROBABLY qualifies as "starting from nothing" according to most definitions, but Jackson is the last one who I think absolutely NOBODY could dispute started from the bottom of society and rose to the top. And that was 200 years ago.
It doesn't take anything away from the experiences of individual servicemen to say they shouldn't have been there in the first place. I am pro people, including servicemen, but markedly anti-war.
I don't believe in good and evil. Everyone is fighting for what they believe in whether its right or wrong. There is a lot of things that happen in peoples lives to bring them to the path they find themselves on. Compassion is the only thing that will bring sustainable peace.
The evil isn't coming here not because of soldiers in a far away place, but because they don't have the means to come here. That said, everyone should have guns.
Have anyone in the army discussed the effect of "blowback" on the Jocko podcast? I feel its the elephant in the room. The "If we dont fight over there, the fight is going to come over here" has gone unchallenged forever and is treated almost like an axiom. Its like the holy cow of foreign military intervention.
@@breene27 I have a suspicion that if we dig deep enough into this we find out its not about defending the institutions of democracy as in "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". Rather, on the individual level its treated as an entry into manhood/warrior caste for a select few.
That last statement is simply incorrect. From nothing to government leader can happen in some western european countries too. Primarily the nordic/scandinavian ones.
I live in Boston mass and it did actualy make it here . Not just some idea. Dead people on the streets of Boston Massachusetts.... the troops , they're awesome. Govt shady as shit. The police. Shady as fuck but the soldiers are solid.
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War is a Racket.
Smedley Butler
Man nobody hates the soldier we hate the wars ...
Tray Pay ehh some soldiers are just lunatics, but most are just following orders. But a certain portion of the blame has to be put on them for making the choice to go.
I’m not a fan of war, especially indiscriminate bombing of families (“collateral damage”) via drones, but I would go fight in a heartbeat to defend our country. I don’t agree with our wars in Vietnam, Iraq and all the covert operations in South and Central America.
However, I would be the first to sign up to fight in WW2 or in Afghanistan after 911. Not all wars are the same, so spread your blame and your praise appropriately.
I hate people WHO are dumb enough to Fight and kill for grabblers
I hate both.
Just because we don't hate the soldiers doesn't mean noone does. They are a tiny minority for sure, but they exist.
Millions of lives have been lost in the war for profit.
Thanks captain obvious
Millions of lives have been saved because of war
T Funk he’s a dumb ass liberal
bhillis99 Smedley Butler USMC "War is a Racket". Check him out before you assume that this is some simplistic left or right topic.
@@bhillis99 why is there charities for the richest military? How are they fighting for My FREEDOM OF SPEECH, RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, & Illegal Searches and seizures in FORGEIN COUNTRIES??? Military are a bunch of Traitors.
Joe "my little electric car" Rogan
Which is one of the reasons that western nations are still in Afghanistan. The CIA released a brief several years ago that called Afghanistan the Saudi Arabia of Lithium. It literally sits on one of the biggest rare earth deposits discovered. Then there’s the opium...
@@jpalmer891 cool bruh
I don't see how getting involved in wars in middle east or elsewhere are protecting our freedom here in Britain or the US and it's nothing close to ww2 situation which had to be fought.
Nobody is free. We gotta have that oil
@@osvaldoesquivel2859 there is no oil in Afghanistan.....
There's always going to be rogue terrorist groups. It would be impossible to go and kill them all off. I was thinking the exact same thing, I just didn't want to be the one to say it.
@@user-xq9ox2xd3i There is alot of opium poppy`s tho..
Note that WW2 could have been averted also, and people knew it at the time. European (and Asian) antifa fought to prevent the rise of fascism (Spanish Civil War, Antifa vs. Fash street battles all over the place) in the inter-war years, but of course the liberal capitalist governments weren't entirely certain that fascists were that bad, and the USSR didn't trust any leftist movements they didn't control.
We are all both good and evil.
Yeah and some people are more good and some people, like say people who strap bombs to women and children, are more evil. Don’t fall for the everything is relative crap, true good exists and so does real evil and the current incarnation of the Taliban is evil.
@William Brown He isn’t calling terrorist good. He said “we all” as in you and me, everyone. Do you think those terrorists were “evil” as little boys before being indoctrinated? It all depends on how much of yourself you give to one or the other.
CChissel Thats not all he is saying, he had another comment where he said evil is subjective and relative to how you are raised. I am arguing that there is such thing as objective evil and terrorists are objectively evil.
William Brown I can and will admit, they are absolutely evil. They’re gone, too far gone. Can’t save people like that, nor should you.
@@williambrown7437 Some people drop bombs on weddings and funerals. Some people blockade ports causing hundreds of thousands to starve.
"This world has only good and evil", will be the first line of the documentary about World War Three. And off course, the good guy always "win"
The good guy always kill everyone else. So there are no debates of what is good and what is evil.
The good guys usually write the history .
"Good"
China erased all their history. What does that make them?
I’m sorry you come from one of the countries run by evil people, but yes, this is how it works
Absolutely crazy story. Love hearing different POV’s and hearing stories of what happens out there... definitely helps you see how other areas are dealing w/certain conflicts. Etc
DMT stands for Dakota Meyer's Testosterone.
Thank you.
Both of them have such a hard on for america and their patriotism and the brainwashing of "we're the best" "we're the good guys" and "we're fighting the evil doers" with zero critical analyses of the situation. This is not to say that I wholly disagree with them, just that they seem to do a disservice by only providing surface level analyses to a complex issue with deep roots and ugly parts where America, Canada (my country), and the rest of the "western" world were clearly the "bad" guys and "evil" doers, or at least complicit in the "evil" that created these terrorist cells we fight today.
Iraq had an authoritarian despot who participated and encouraged in Secret police, state terrorism, torture, mass murder, genocide, ethnic cleansing, rape, deportations, extrajudicial killings, forced disappearances, assassinations, chemical warfare.
Today they have a democratically elected leader.
Get off your contrarian high-horse. Terrorist cells existed before the US entered Iraq and will persist forever.
You don't get to blame the US for going in there and shooting the guy who has a boot on the throat of the population. You act like the US created these people when it was the oppression by Saddam which you seem in favour which was what kept them contained.
Getting the boot off innocent's necks' also got the boot off terrorist's necks.
Freedom is far more important than security.
Weird, I've met people from all over the world and they ALL believe where ever they are from "WE (insert country) ARE THE BEST, WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS". People from all over Europe, China, Japan, Mexico, etc. What's even more ridiculous is the people who come to the USA but still believe that where ever they came from is some how still the best.
@@mothmandan You are a crazy person if you believe that.
Not our problem what they do to themselves. We backed "Sadam", and made him what he was with our money and arms.
@Odin OfficialEmcee
He is way too young to understand what he is saying. Maybe in 10 years after he has worked through it.
"I hope that one day you can bring your family here for vacation."
Fucking teared up man. That's heavy. This is a great perspective you bring to the table. People need to hear this.
Some of the most beautiful places and people I saw were in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think Iraq is on track to stabilizing but Afghan tribal culture needs to diminish
Why we fight in Afghanistan:
Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.
We will never leave! Even if we are just there to protect the mines.
👏👏👏👏👏
Actually, they have the largest deposits of dilithium crystals which we use to power our antimatter reactors that feed our warp engines...and that's the reason we're in Afghanistan. I can't believe we still have to explain this in 2019.
Always about the resources!
not to mention heroin and the "heroin epidemic" that popped off shortly after....
A strong middle class along with education and economic opportunity is the biggest threat to extremism.
ben chang education can go either way
@@Jordan-mn2ty dont complicate this simple truth, Jordan
RanHarasaki well during the Islamic revolution in Iran they used the education system to further solidify Islamic extremism in the youth. So it’s not a simple truth
Jordan 33 alright smarty pants. You and I both know the education I’m speaking of is the kind that promotes economic mobility. Do you really need someone to spell that out for u? Use your brain dude.
ben chang I felt like causing trouble
I never once heard anyone say we were fighting the country of Afghanistan. Everyone knows the fighting is against terrorist cells not against Afghanistan itself.
@Josie Whales ok maybe not everyone, but certainly an overwhelming majority.
Well, the "terrorist cells" controlled 90% of the country in 1998.
we don’t want this “forever” war
Marshall Plan
Didn't go to war with Iraq? The country? Eh.....yes we did.
If what they say is true, why do more American soldiers commit suicide than die in battle...and why was this not a thing 30 years ago.
@BigErn_Mccraken I was referring to how they say that "we have to fight them there so that we don't fight them here" narrative, that's never been a real thing, but you're right there are some sad parallels between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War.
BigErn_Mccraken the bootlickers? Rly? Should they have been shunned like the VA vets you degenerate bastard
raytheon and Lockheed Martin couldn’t agree with you more😭😂🤣🤦♂️
I enjoy listening to his perspective but I disagree with him saying that’s there’s two types of people, that being good or evil. I believe good or evil is subjective, some people might believe what they’re doing is good but only for someone else across the world to determine it’s actually bad.
Edit # 1: Then factor in the people who disseminate the information pertaining to a war and what biases or ulterior motives they have. A starting example would be the Iran-Contra Affair
JohnE I would say some People find ways to convince themselves what they're doing is acceptable...
Most vets or members of military believe in good and evil. It's what helps them take lives without remorse. The moment that soldier thinks of how similar he is to his enemy, that's the moment he loses
Insurgents see themselves as the good guys.
Let's see, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden... good or bad? Just a different perspective? You be the judge
I have absolutely no idea how anyone can be so simple - to devide all into ONLY two groups...
Nuances? What nuances! Hahahahahahahahaha))))
Ummm, USA is definitely not the only place on the planet where you can be anyone you want to be. I live on a little island called Australia where I reckon we have it better, free-er & easier. Also, there’s New Zealand close by & they have it even better than us I reckon.
You guys get censored to shit. Easier is probably true. Better is subjective. More free is objectively untrue. America is more free and that comes with a cost.
@@marcoslopez127 Australia gets censored? Please explain? (
Marcos Lopez Canada is just as free, and we get shit like free healthcare as bonuses
it's that time of night - JRE is posting clips and the notifications won't stop for another few hours...
Major General Smedly Darlington Butler, USMC 32 years. Two Medals of Honor.
It's a shame that he went through all of this and he still doesn't get it.
Have you been through it ? What doesn’t he get ?
No but I don't see why that changes anything. Look at the other comments and you'll get an idea. For more of an idea, watch American sniper, he is being exactly like 'the legend'.
Omg ur so stupid did u just compare one of ur "facts" to a fucking movie
I've heard Rogan say numerous times that the main reason why the US is in Afghanistan is to guard the poppy fields. (Mucho respect to this marine. I support the military. But I do not support the corporate control of the military)
Thank you for at least adding that you aren’t shitting on a veteran
@@Truthiness10 they're just following orders. If I supported those orders, then I would enlist.
Would love to heard the story from an Aghani civilian or other country the US had invaded, destroyed and pilaged.
I don't take anyone's side, war is primitive.
@C Carr Ahhhhhh shut up troll bitch
Fighting in a foreign country for the US democracy? Joke,
J S ummm did you not hear what he was saying they are fighting next to us not only to eliminate evil bad people destroying their country ? You really don’t think that could spread across the world like a fungus is it’s not dealt with? You really think we just run up in a country and do what we do just because we want to? I hope your not that closed minded
@@3SIXTYPROD lol
The statement clearly went over your head, kid.
@@3SIXTYPROD "You really think we just run up in a country and do what we do just because we want to?" That's exactly what you lot do. Sometimes you do it to help those democracy loving allies Saudi Arabia and UAE. Sometimes it is done through covert measures like bribing and blackmailing politicians. Sometimes assassinations and coups. Sometimes drone strikes. Not always boots on the ground.
@@3SIXTYPROD Vietnam putz.
Love all the comments that say good and evil is subjective but then go on to say that all motives behind wars are malicious.
I don't see what's wrong with those statements... at all. Finding something to be evil shouldn't justify killing over.
I think it's evil not to guarantee healthcare to every civilian. It's barbaric. Third world country style. You saying that justifies Germany declaring a war on the US?
Robert Hood how the hell is that evil? Theres a lot of points to be made on either side but calling it evil is pretty ridiculous
@@arbynChief617 Not in my view. It's subjective. But to let people go homeless because of a debt the received because they got ill... is in my view... evil.
@th3 Envyp Oh no. Please don't lol at me. I might take it personally... or not.
@th3 Envyp That just furthers your misunderstanding of things. Like your IQ 😂
I just finished listening to the entire Jacko podcast... Dakota, there are no words I can think of that will ever be able to truly show you how much respect I have for you. The classic phrase "True American Hero" was just redefined in my eyes because of you.
That ending changed so many thoughts inside. Mind blown by the obvious 💥
I never joined the military, I was raised by it. Civilians that never hear the truth of war from those that were there will never know the what it's like. So, in order to educate myself further, I went online and searched for the most horrific pictures and videos I could find in order to get a vague idea. I now have the deepest respect for all soldiers of the armed forces.
People get so butt hurt when they hear American's being positive about their own country.
uhhh, they didn't fight for "freedom" - just like most wars, the people who fight and die do it needlessly (canon fodder). Their bodies, minds, and spirit's should have been sent to build and help.
since you have no actual working knowledge of why we were there, or what we actually did over there, perhaps you should keep your soy to yourself or nut up and join. We were not fighting, we fought, but only when necessary. Most of our days were spent doing safety, diplomacy, securing democratic elections, going town to town handing out grants for infrastructure like generators and water pumps, treating sick people. In the course of those duties we often got attacked and that did require overwhelming response, but we were defending the good people of iraq as much as ourselves.
@@Oldsoldiersays bullshit
You invaded a sovereign country, you bombed innocents together with soldiers from the other side, you created more terrorists ,or , for the ones who only attack invading soldiers, resistance.
Like in Iraq US was / is the aggresor .
Just recently US droned farmers ... farmers
@@davidfirdavidfir3778 lmao, lighten up on the coolaid my man. Yes we invaded, thats why its called the iraq war. We were there for a purpose, finished that, then transitioned to rebuilding, then right when we were almost done, got pulled out early. Innocents died yes, not very many by US hands and those people were incredibly well compensated, something never done before in war. Strife doesn't create terrorists, islam does, and as non-believers we are always the prey.
@@Oldsoldiersays Funny how islam has existed for thousands of years, yet terrorism only came to life when the west started interfering in the affairs of arab muslim countries. Stop acting like the world police, let the UN deal with that, just let other countries do what they feel. Can you honestly tell me that 'rebuilding' is working? Look at these massive iraq protests going on now, look at libya now, do you honestly think that american interference made these countries better?
" I hope one say you can bring your family here on vacation" that almost made me cry... what alot of people.dont understand is we soldiers we aren't fighting for the politicians.. oil rights etc etc.. most soldiers are fighting for two things.. to provide for our families and to make the world a better place... there's more brotherhood and camaraderie than anything. And you get overseas and you work with these individuals that want the "American Dream" just like our ancestors wanted when they fought for our country. This is the part the news never shows. We made brothers and sisters overseas.. and all they want is the same thing all of us want back here at home.
We're out "rebuilding" other country's....while ours crumbles from within...thank you for your service and sacrifice
yeah rebuilding my ass, ask Libya and Iraq how this rebuilding going
@Historical Icons stfu. Saddem was killing his own people and a problem. Second if you weren't there have many seats.
Shit is heavy hearts out to all my brothers in arms the ones we lost till Valhalla brothers thanks JR for putting this out there
Joe " I pulled my Lil Tesla car over & called Brendan" Rogan!!
And Brenda was like “b-b-b-b-beast of a comment. What else ya’ got, chin?”
Yeah right, I had to pull over in my 150,000$ Tesla cause I was nervous....Joe Rogan...
Even if you are last in that group, you are better than average. Need more friends like that!
Houston Texas
When Jocko gets up in the morning...his bed makes itself.
When I was in Afghanistan in 2017 we fought with Taliban to fight isis in RC East. I’ve seen isis do barbaric shit we save a girl about 11 or 12 she had no eyes we asked why and they said isis cut her eyes out so she couldn’t run away from her rapist. It gives me fucking chills to this day seeing something so evil
Life's good
MKU 630 my friend everyday above ground is beautiful if you let it be!!!
@@3SIXTYPROD ✔️✔️💪🏼
Show is great man
Damn. I’m afraid to check out that Jocko episode. I haven’t drank enough water for that.
7:05 No, there were no terrorist organizations in Iraq at all. There were plenty after the invasion though.
Tell that to all of the families being terrorized, murdered, and they’re children raped by said organizations prior to us going over there, you obviously didn’t even watch the fucking video
Good is a point of view
Haha everybody made a meme for Joe Rogan's middle name
"If you want peace you'll have to fight for it" ~ George Washington
those were different times
Jan Zacharias Not as different as people like to think.
@@williambrown7437 No, it's pretty dramatically different.
Scott Charney I guess if you have a narrow view of history then that might appear to be the case.
Still waiting for wehpon of mass distraction
rafique pathan black tar heroin id say that can devastate a civilization ask China
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Theres alot of us that dont have "that circle"...... but we are gettin by...... without the support system..... but me make it work
wish we could elaborate on the videos down here instead of brainstorming new aliases for Joe.
Uncle Tezzy no kidding!
Uncle Tezzy elaborate yourself then. Don’t complain and not offer anything.
Uncle Tezzy yeah I noticed for awhile the comments section for this podcast don’t have serious convos of the podcasts as much I think they would.
Jacob Ball bitch yo name is jacob, i will take your lunch money
I think this comment section was slowly invaded by children. & dumb children & that!
"there's good and evil" yeeeeaaaaaahhhh right. I'm guessing you're the good??? And anything that goes against you is evil?? What.
Los Phoenix 🤦♀️
Exactly, chuck some level 4 lads on here from pelican and see what good and evil is. There is none, its subjective.
Only sheltered little white kids think everything and everyone is rainbows and unicorns in the world. Like yourself
Watch the entire podcast.
Los Phoenix did you not hear him say that both sides are the same? That the people he was fight believed us to be evil an them good?
“If we dont go over there to fight it, its gonna come here”
We literally invite them in
"We" do the same thing. Creating the "other" is the issue. There is no other. There are corrupt people in power that allow things to happen that shouldn't, and a populace that believes propaganda rather than inform themselves... but it's actually getting better, not worse. Nice try though.
@@littlebitstrouds not sure how that's relevant to the comment but ok.
"them" lol the boogeyman's coming for you
@@shabbii296 you totally missed his point
@@Shambolic2000 damn right
You are correct we (us,aus,uk) were asked to be in Afghanistan... we stayed because it gave US based pharmaceutical companies access to the opium.
you do realize there are opium farms in the US mainland and other devolved countries
Can someone explain to me why going to a country and starting from scratch and ending up making it is only possible in America?
Brain washed
Because you are white? Try it as a black guy or latino.... from scratch, remember?
You should have Nicholas Irving on your podcast he is the author of The reaper he was a sniper
Dakota Meyer one of my personal heros
War, what is it good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN!
Love the show
War. It's fantastic!
Cunnilingus Messiah necessary*
@@williambrown7437 It's a line from the movie "Hot Shots Part Deux." Also, the wars being discussed here are thoroughly unnecessary.
Scott Charney maybe unnecessary but inevitable all the same. The violence will happen, the location, time and magnitude can be manipulated but not avoided.
@@scottcharney1091 yeah maaaaaaan!
I super wish I could remember the name of the researcher, and he probably isnt that hard to find. I watched a Ted Talk in which he talked about his entire career being focused on the psychological impact of military training and combat.
He stated, after a career of research, that a higher risk of suicide once military men enter back into society is not linked to combat experience. He said that the correlation with higher suicide tendencies begins in TRAINING. Being militarily trained unfortunately means that you are statistically more likely to commit suicide.
I'll just never forget how that made me feel. These people are set up for a life of hardship from the get-go. These people give up everything to serve and protect us. I'm so thankful for all of our service men and women.
Funny how countries with valuable natural resources always need our soldier's long term "help" isn't it?. I bet Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman and all those Afghan opium farmers really appreciate his service..
The utmost respect to this man & his life. God bless him till the end of time, but life is NOT as simple as good vs evil.
Or is it??
Tower Seven Wasn't Done By Foreign Terrorists.
Correction. They don’t want war for PROFIT
The amount of bs and sensationalism in this podcast was obscene
If you didn't deploy you have no place here. Good day.
You probably live in your Mom’s basement. Get out and get a life.
@@JL-xn3zy 😂😂 you hurt.
Exactly, but he is too young to see through the chitfuzzery he was told. Some day he will see through it, and then have to live with himself, like so many men from Vietnam and other wars. I feel badly for him because the future is going to be rougher than the present, if he has an IQ above 90.
Joe “insert podcast joke” Rogan
“What else you got, chin?”
Joe "I drive a Tesla" Rogan
Austin Duffield Austin “I’m an internet dork desperate for TH-cam likes” Duffield
poor guy really drank the government kool-aid. fortunately he made it out alive, albeit rather delusional and traumatized.
"There's only two types of people in this world: good and evil"
Whoah, Bro! Leave some cool-aid for the rest of us!!
I wonder if he's ever stopped to think whether or not he's unknowingly fighting on the wrong side of this binary system he's created in his mind
Shane Annigans
Well you need to keep trying to better yourself if you don’t understand what that implies. Yea, there is either good or evil people. There are degrees within each of those two polarising aspects.
BUT when u add perspective into the mix, the good and evil becomes relative and good guys can simultaneously become the evil guys and vice versa.
There are two wildly wrong statements made on this vid.....
Guys like him are on the next level respect
He's brave.... but dumb and brainwashed
@@roberthood7650 why would you say that
I miss it live!
5:20 "There's only two types of people in the world, war is so simple, life is so simple"
I wonder's if he really that simple minded.
He doesnt see Joe Rogan, hes looking at 999 yards behind him
This is FUCKING AWESOME!!! Speaking the truth and only the truth. Respect
wish we could elaborate on the videos instead of brainstorming new aliases for Joe.
Lead the way
Wish we could elaborate on the videos instead of posting about how people are not elaborating on the video
It's free real estate
KRONICxSHOT bitch you don’t even got a profile picture, you’re irrelevant
I fuckin love this podcast. Thank you, Joe Rogan.
Name one person who that has happened to in the past 50 years. Who came from nothing and became president? Saying it does not make it true. Is it possible? Sure. Has it happened? No.
Oliver Quinn Your point is?
Class mobility in the US is at (or near) the bottom of the industrialized world.
@@FuzionBranz the point is he keeps saying "marketing" quotes about America that are not true. He doesn't know how video games affect children, often not making them more violent, but actually making them see what violence causes and avoiding it rather than participating in real life. People used to gang up to fight people, not pull out their cameras. Plenty of other countries play violent video games and have less people causing violence. It's not the games.
This sounds like a house wife talking about her daily duties.
What the fuck does that mean, shithead?
Free from who?
Nobody, lol, because obviously these are lies.
@@aus-li true that.
Truth.
I could give you a long speech on how people who have been in combat are different to those who have not. But I won't. And we are. Very different.
He is a Hero.
Freedom comes from a REPUBLIC.
The whole problem with good and evil is no one thinks they are the bad guys
The propaganda is strong with this one.
Miss War everyvday
Who was the last president who "came from nothing"? Harry Truman? His family had a successful farm, and he was able to afford to go to college, but definitely the poorest of the 20th century anyway. For someone who truly started from NOTHING, you might have to look all the way back to Andrew Jackson? Depends on your definition of nothing, I suppose, but definitely not in most people's lifetimes has anyone achieved that. edit: I forgot Lincoln, he PROBABLY qualifies as "starting from nothing" according to most definitions, but Jackson is the last one who I think absolutely NOBODY could dispute started from the bottom of society and rose to the top. And that was 200 years ago.
It doesn't take anything away from the experiences of individual servicemen to say they shouldn't have been there in the first place. I am pro people, including servicemen, but markedly anti-war.
The “evil people” don’t view themselves as evil. They think they are the hero and not the “bad guy”
Only the dead, know the end of war.
Joe have the Black Rifle coffee guys on!
Come on people let’s LEARN HOW TO LOVE AND FORGET HOW TO HATE...And let’s make this wold a better place 😊😊😊
th3 Envyp it’s pieces of shit like you who sit in their parents basement writing stupid shit on the internet......🤔🤔🤔🤔
I don't believe in good and evil. Everyone is fighting for what they believe in whether its right or wrong. There is a lot of things that happen in peoples lives to bring them to the path they find themselves on. Compassion is the only thing that will bring sustainable peace.
1freesoul2another If you don’t believe in good and evil you haven’t seen much in this world. Evil, pure evil, exists.
The evil isn't coming here not because of soldiers in a far away place, but because they don't have the means to come here.
That said, everyone should have guns.
nobody wins in war
Have anyone in the army discussed the effect of "blowback" on the Jocko podcast? I feel its the elephant in the room. The "If we dont fight over there, the fight is going to come over here" has gone unchallenged forever and is treated almost like an axiom. Its like the holy cow of foreign military intervention.
@@breene27 I have a suspicion that if we dig deep enough into this we find out its not about defending the institutions of democracy as in "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". Rather, on the individual level its treated as an entry into manhood/warrior caste for a select few.
Free from what . Haveing no oil
That last statement is simply incorrect. From nothing to government leader can happen in some western european countries too. Primarily the nordic/scandinavian ones.
I live in Boston mass and it did actualy make it here . Not just some idea. Dead people on the streets of Boston Massachusetts.... the troops , they're awesome. Govt shady as shit. The police. Shady as fuck but the soldiers are solid.
War is horrible. I never win that stupid card game.