that was a fantastic video, very informative, reminded me of false gate picking in lever locks. I do enjoy it when you discuss the more unusual locking mechanisms. Thanks
+mike herbert Thanks. I've never tried picking lever locks (they are very uncommon in the USA), but from what I know of them, I can see the similarities.
Hi Harry, I love your thought processes, it's outside the square, but Oh so logical. Must be your Lawyer skills, the way you analyse the method/s and lock at hand. Most enjoyable. Regards, Brian.
@rusty locks, to avoid breaching the lock with carbide or diamond drill bits, I modified and fortified the enclosure surrounding the lock, as well as modifying the key with an extension rod to reduce the potential for drilling and cutting. That said, stealing the whole container is still possible. It comes down to how bad somebody wants something!
+Per Berglund Thank you. The format works best for locks like this, which are sufficiently unusual that my picking narration would not make sense without some background. I used this format once before in video 78 (TuBAR lock), so if you liked this video, you may like that as well.
+LOLWHUTMAIFRIEN Thank you. That's really the only way to open a lock like this. Spend 30 minutes gathering intel and making a plan. It will save you hours of grief!
+Olivier Cauffopé Sorry, but this is one is sufficiently unusual that I'm keeping it... A couple of my regular trade partners have already asked for this one, and I turned them down. If you really want a Desmo, I suggest setting up an alert on eBay, or getting one of the Desmo padlocks being sold by Security Snobs (a little pricy, but always a pleasure to deal with).
huxleypig69 I'm very familiar with that SS lock... it's tempting in my weak moments, but I can't bring myself to spend that much on a luggage lock. I go for SS's "large lot" locks, but the other stuff is a little rich for my blood. My "Desmo" ebay alert is set, but has never gone off... not even once! I'd love to try one of the ones you have without the key? Think about what you would like in trade, then send me a PM. Thanks in advance.
Does gravity make the pins fall back down into their lowest position if you stop applying tension? What if the lock is installed 90 degrees clockwise compared to this video, you pick and turn it, remove the tension tool and the pins fall down. You then have to pick the lock a second time to lock it again?
+Steensy The notch in the key makes room for the sidebar tensioner rods... If the notch was not there, the key would block the movement of the sidebar tensioner, and keep the sidebar from retracting. In the regard, it's a bit like a passive pin... So long as you stay away from it, it doesn't come into play when picking.
great job, wondering if the lishi 2 in 1 HUK auto pick will work. Looks like they are designed to open these if it will fit. i see them for cheap on Banggood.com and dhgate.com let me know if you try
Fantastic!(And to think that Steven Hampton said that this lock was virtually impossible to pick lol)PS:Does this jiggle test work determining if the side pins on the V-10 Twin are picked as well?
+Callum Chapman Thanks. I did pick it before the first gutting. I developed the picking approach for this lock from looking at cutaway schematics... but doing it with the actual lock makes for a better video.
Why does the key even have a middle ridge on it that has a cut out of it too?? Almost looks like there could be one giant pin tumbler in the back middle of this lock... It just seems like a waste to have that extra metal on the key when all you need is just the slider tracks.
Any have you attempted to defeat the assa abloy protec2 series? We use these in a custom designed hasp, to protect modified doors, on cargo containers. So far no security breeches. ( hope I did not jinx myself!)
There is a guy called "lockpickingmx" that has videos of picking Abloys but i'm not sure of the validity of the picks and I don't think its the protec2. It would require a very specific tool and its widely considered the most secure lock against picking. However for DE they make drill bits that can open them fairly quickly. Im sure your cargo containers are safe though.
I have been trying to get one of these. Unfortunately the only source I can find is the padlock verison on securitysnobs.com for $90. I wish they came up on ebay more often, is ebay where you got yours?
There are some passive pins that push into that slot when the key is turned, so the exact placement of the notch could be about key control... but that's just a guess.
peope1976 LOL. It's not complicated... it's a pin that runs through half the core, and usually fits into a shallow grove in the lock body such that when you rotate the core, the pin is thrust into the keyway. If your key isn't relieved in the exact location of the pin, then the core will not turn. By putting the pins in different locations, you can have several different key blanks for any given keyway. As a picker, there are limited circumstances in which they come into play... since we don't use a key, we don't have to worry about ensuring that the key has the corresponding cutouts. See my early video on the Abus D10... that had 4 passive pins in it.
Thank you very much. I did do the legwork and checked out some other video of yours where there where passive pins as in two ballbearing on each side of the key. I really like your stuff. Especially the video on picking locks and picking *a* lock.
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Here from the wheel lock video. It’s fascinating to see the insides of a springless core.
Me too
that was a fantastic video, very informative, reminded me of false gate picking in lever locks.
I do enjoy it when you discuss the more unusual locking mechanisms.
Thanks
+mike herbert Thanks. I've never tried picking lever locks (they are very uncommon in the USA), but from what I know of them, I can see the similarities.
Makes me want to find one of these and put your method to the test. Was very exciting to watch you pick this one.
+AKJeeper Thanks -- It's always fun beating a new kind of lock!
I love the videos where you show us the guts and internals of unusual locks ! Such a thourough and intresting topic :D
Nicely done, you made it look so easy. but it look to be very tricky. thanks for sharing , take care.
+Rusty Nail Thanks.
:-)
Really interesting explanation of how this lock works
Hi Harry, I love your thought processes, it's outside the square, but Oh so logical. Must be your Lawyer skills, the way you analyse the method/s and lock at hand. Most enjoyable. Regards, Brian.
+Brian Hignett Thanks. I can't imagine approaching a lock like this without a little analysis first. I'd be worthless without it!
Wonderfully video bud. Very well made and all your efforts paid off.
+Papa Gleb Thanks. Much appreciated!
@rusty locks, to avoid breaching the lock with carbide or diamond drill bits, I modified and fortified the enclosure surrounding the lock, as well as modifying the key with an extension rod to reduce the potential for drilling and cutting. That said, stealing the whole container is still possible. It comes down to how bad somebody wants something!
You are a great Mentor - such a clear explanation - I'd imagine you know of Schuyler Towne.
+chris oates Thanks -- I certainly hope I help others. I'm familiar with ST's video's but don't know too much about him.
Wow, exciting pick! Very interesting, and not a high secure lock at all after your video ;-)
The method is really effective. Thanks for sharing.
+Potti314 Thanks. I wish I had more to test it on, but it does seem to work nicely.
another great video Harry, you make it look effortless!
Thanks buddy.
Wow that was amazing. Great job explaining everything and love your method of attack. Thanks for sharing this video brother.
nice breakdown at the beginning!
+Per Berglund Thank you. The format works best for locks like this, which are sufficiently unusual that my picking narration would not make sense without some background. I used this format once before in video 78 (TuBAR lock), so if you liked this video, you may like that as well.
thanks for the video great explanation of the design and pick strategy
+LOLWHUTMAIFRIEN Thank you. That's really the only way to open a lock like this. Spend 30 minutes gathering intel and making a plan. It will save you hours of grief!
Very nicely done and explained, great video.
+Gary K Thanks!
Great education. Very simple to open. Very good video.
Thanks.
Great picking, great explanation, great vid mate. Really enjoy it. Very interesting lock.
Thanks for sharing ;-)))
+Tallan Pick Thank you.
very cool little lock and nice methodical explanation and picking bud, cheers ;D
+crispey bear Thanks.
You made that amazingly easy
Thanks. It's just a matter of coming up with a plan, and being methodical.
I've got that lock type on my Volvo Roof-box
Made it look easy again, great picking!
+l0ckcr4ck3r Thanks.
nicely explained never played with one of that type have seen similar. excellent video..
+tonyholt90 Thanks.
Super video,very informative and thanks for sharing another interesting lock👍👍👍😘🍻🔐
+Pick Beard Thanks.
I hope to be as talented at picking locks like LPL someday
Awesome Video!!! Cool lock.
+PickME 1977 Thanks.
Very informative and well thought out video. Thanks
+Robert Bradford Thank you.
Good use of diamond pick.
nice cam lock i always wanted one great picking
+Olivier Cauffopé Thanks.
+Olivier Cauffopé Sorry, but this is one is sufficiently unusual that I'm keeping it... A couple of my regular trade partners have already asked for this one, and I turned them down. If you really want a Desmo, I suggest setting up an alert on eBay, or getting one of the Desmo padlocks being sold by Security Snobs (a little pricy, but always a pleasure to deal with).
Nice picking dude. Next, do it all again but with the 8 slider version (the fully grown-up Desmo :-p)!
+huxleypig69 I would love to. Can you send me one?
LockPickingLawyer
The one from Security Snobs is the 8 slider version if you're feeling rich. I have a couple without keys?
huxleypig69 I'm very familiar with that SS lock... it's tempting in my weak moments, but I can't bring myself to spend that much on a luggage lock. I go for SS's "large lot" locks, but the other stuff is a little rich for my blood. My "Desmo" ebay alert is set, but has never gone off... not even once! I'd love to try one of the ones you have without the key? Think about what you would like in trade, then send me a PM. Thanks in advance.
Lock interesting and informative video: Thank you. :)
Thanks.
Does gravity make the pins fall back down into their lowest position if you stop applying tension? What if the lock is installed 90 degrees clockwise compared to this video, you pick and turn it, remove the tension tool and the pins fall down. You then have to pick the lock a second time to lock it again?
It's like watching a lock dentist.
What's the bitting on the top of the key for? It doesn't appear to do anything.
+Steensy The notch in the key makes room for the sidebar tensioner rods... If the notch was not there, the key would block the movement of the sidebar tensioner, and keep the sidebar from retracting. In the regard, it's a bit like a passive pin... So long as you stay away from it, it doesn't come into play when picking.
great job, wondering if the lishi 2 in 1 HUK auto pick will work. Looks like they are designed to open these if it will fit. i see them for cheap on Banggood.com and dhgate.com let me know if you try
+JB I doubt it. Those Lishi'sare made for specific keyways. The odds of it fitting and working seem low... but anythings possible.
Fantastic!(And to think that Steven Hampton said that this lock was virtually impossible to pick lol)PS:Does this jiggle test work determining if the side pins on the V-10 Twin are picked as well?
Cracking video, did you pick the lock before gutting it first?
+Callum Chapman Thanks. I did pick it before the first gutting. I developed the picking approach for this lock from looking at cutaway schematics... but doing it with the actual lock makes for a better video.
very cool!
+Jeff Moss Thanks.
love assa's... i have a assa v-10 on the building i live in
+Jay O v-10? those are some big guns for a residential building!
lol, ikr, appartment building, not to mention it we have a door entry system.. guess our local locksmith likes making things tough
Why does the key even have a middle ridge on it that has a cut out of it too?? Almost looks like there could be one giant pin tumbler in the back middle of this lock... It just seems like a waste to have that extra metal on the key when all you need is just the slider tracks.
Any have you attempted to defeat the assa abloy protec2 series? We use these in a custom designed hasp, to protect modified doors, on cargo containers. So far no security breeches. ( hope I did not jinx myself!)
No.
There is a guy called "lockpickingmx" that has videos of picking Abloys but i'm not sure of the validity of the picks and I don't think its the protec2. It would require a very specific tool and its widely considered the most secure lock against picking.
However for DE they make drill bits that can open them fairly quickly. Im sure your cargo containers are safe though.
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I have been trying to get one of these. Unfortunately the only source I can find is the padlock verison on securitysnobs.com for $90. I wish they came up on ebay more often, is ebay where you got yours?
Yes, ebay.
looks like the side bar is under spring tension. are the sliders under any tension
No spring tension on the sliders. They are completely free floating.
would a hammer tap or 2 not help to set the bevelled pins?
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how/where to buy assa desmo key???
So the upper groove is just cosmetic? Or does it fit like the old style keys into a slot to move the lock open?
There are some passive pins that push into that slot when the key is turned, so the exact placement of the notch could be about key control... but that's just a guess.
Thanks. Now I just have to figure out what a passive pin is. :)
peope1976 LOL. It's not complicated... it's a pin that runs through half the core, and usually fits into a shallow grove in the lock body such that when you rotate the core, the pin is thrust into the keyway. If your key isn't relieved in the exact location of the pin, then the core will not turn. By putting the pins in different locations, you can have several different key blanks for any given keyway. As a picker, there are limited circumstances in which they come into play... since we don't use a key, we don't have to worry about ensuring that the key has the corresponding cutouts. See my early video on the Abus D10... that had 4 passive pins in it.
Thank you very much.
I did do the legwork and checked out some other video of yours where there where passive pins as in two ballbearing on each side of the key.
I really like your stuff.
Especially the video on picking locks and picking *a* lock.
This always reminds me of dentistry
How would effect the picking if the false gates had exactly the same spacing (not cut depth) as the true gates?