Podcaster FIRES at Rick Ross, Meek Mill, & Jim Jones For Being Hypocrites
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He isn't trying to lift himself up. He is trying to bring attention to volatile messages being fed to our youth
And sale the album he just dropped dont forget that part..he tryna sell something to the people just in another way
It can be a buy one, get one..
Joe is a genius. He's basically preserving his rap relationships by diluting a point he'd otherwise agree with if it was literally anyone accept an A list rapper 😂
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Nothing but facts
That’s not genius, but I get what you’re saying.
Far from genius. Bruh just a snake. Y'all gotta stop calling this shit genius and call it for what it is. Unethical greed.
Y’all never be informed. He not a podcaster. He a rapper. This has been his message. You late
Facts Dee1 has been making music & teaching for years… I rock with JBP but they were terribly informed with this take… he got songs with Starlito, Don Trip, & multiple others. Dude is a Louisiana legend🤦🏾♂️& he’s right‼️
Facts when he said Podcaster I was like what.
Wow..... that kills it all... coz he is rapper, he one of the people who talking bout.....
They don't care. They're industry loyal sheep.
EXACTLY! 💎💎💎💯
lol Joe can say Drake should stop hanging with 25 yr olds and give us grown music but Dee 1 can't call the hypocrisy off Meek? Come on son
Because Joe himself is hypocrite
Foreal tho 😂 he is the biggest hypocrite in the industry
What's wrong with that got people like a round 40 year old living with their mother at the end of the day can't tell people who should hang with 25 years old not that bad y'all be hater and jealous people doesn't matter how old is you got old people act like kids still living with there parents Joe Budden is joke lol and meek mill one my favorite rapper Dee 1 don't even know nothing about meek mill or jim jone he chase clout tell you the truth Dee 1 push messages that going help youth other way do that without saying people name that what Joe Budden is saying other way push messages out to youth without saying people name what wrong with that. Dee 1 understood that you know the rappers like that speak on their name
Dee 1 is 100% right! And he himself is a Christian rapper way before being a podcaster. I'm not even Christian and I understand what he's saying. He's definitely not clout chasing, his stuff is for a whole different market.
It says a lot when people take another option other than betterment... Like how do you find wrong when someone is pushing for better.
That’s how certain rap styles always been … niggaz act like your wrong for calling out a 46 year old for pushing death in music ….. and then they disguise it as speaking about there environment … but In the next sentence you say you been rich for 20 years … so what environment
@@alfatir14 exactly
So if you make Christian rap worry about priest molesting lil boys instead of the state of mainstream rap that you ain't even apart of
You don't have to be Christian to understand english
He is right . Meek prison reform and Rick Ross was a whole correctional officer. Jim Jones been pushing the gang life for years. He was saying it’s no growth for those rappers.
If you listen to Ross and Meeks music there’s definitely growth in both of there music from when they first came in til now, just because they still will make a gangster/trap life style song or use those lyrics doesn’t mean that there promoting that lifestyle, it no different then making a movie it’s for entertainment purposes! They are simply creating a scene that most people can relate to! They are both fathers and business men you can publicly see that so at this point in their careers you wouldn’t just believe or assume that there doing all of this gangster stuff they rapping about!! It’s just entertainment!
@@TheTopPromoterNetwork that’s a cop out, it directly means they are promoting that lifestyle. Huh?
Meek Lyrics: “I call the shots and all the killers be like, "What's thе move?" (Let's get it)
Hundrеd grand, you and your little man getting split in two (Splitter)”
This is common? Most people can drop a $100k to get somebody killed?
This is definitely promoting negativity, you can’t slice it any other way. You can debate how much of an influence this has on kids, but it’s definitely promoting negativity.
Joe knows that but is "cool" (Shook) of Jim, semi cool with Ross and Meek
Not to mention three of them are mediocre rappers at best, especially grown gang adult Jim Jones
Hes right. Niggas living in a mansion talkin bout sellin dope still. As much as people hated Jay z for stunting on us in his bars at least its true
Jay Z at least grew in his musical content as he grew as a man so you’re right about that
None of jay z bars were true he was not a dope pusher bro 😂
@@DemonTime08and you know this how?
"Clout chasing" is reaching the level of misuse the same way "hating" did. People aren't allowed to have opinions.
Joe your totally wrong about this and that’s ok you just have to learn from this and be better next time
Dee-1 is a Gospel Rapper out of my neck of the woods in New Orleans not a podcaster!!!! And he never tagged Ross or Jim Jones they responded to him and he responded back.... I respect y'all covering this but y'all need to do y'all research before taking on a subject... Dee-1 is solidified and more than qualified andhas been out here damn near 20 years doing the work... He doesn't need to clout chase- he is that dude and I would take him over any artist on their labels Hell I personally would take him over Ross and Jones themselves.... But much respect...
He's rapped with a Lupe, curren$y and a bunch of high level rappers too. He's no Podcaster
Not over yb
@@geton411 yep even over YB
He wasn’t putting anyone down. He was making valid points. Why are they everyone in there except Ish acting dumb dumb 😂
Money behind the scenes keeping ngas dumb for years.. Never change. Politics as Usual since the golden era
@@mjeezy-mp1rb POLITICS AS USUAL
You know how Joe is when his mind is set 😂. It’s hard for him to admit when he is wrong.
They aren't acting brother
This semantical argument is Bull. Y’all just don’t want to take accountability for your actions as rappers. That’s fine, even if you admitted it. No one would stop listening. It doesn’t matter
If yhey had a message everyoen would say they corny the society are hypocrites
You can't become the problem
Meek addressed this already
@@slimmoein general when Kanye and drake came out and everyone was calling them soft and not from the streets for making music for regular people all because hip hop thinks being a gangster is cool but being a light skin rapper who got an acting job as a teenager to move his mom out Jane n Westin which is a bad neighborhood in Toronto because his mom stopped working as a teacher because she was so sick and then became a rapper because that’s his talent or a kid who loved his mom from the city of Chicago and not from any gangs and mom took care of him always but since he was a producer your soft that’s why your rap is corny. It’s actually so hilarious the amount of drake and Kanye got for not being from the streets do you see how stupid that sounds. But if you about the action and have sold drugs and was in a gang that’s not corny . Just like people now calling Russell Wilson corny for stepping up and loving Ciara and taking care of each child and in their lives 24/7 and stepping up as a father to future kid because future is because in his late 30s and still running around in clubs and dosent live with his kids and that’s how he wants it and dosent seen them as much that’s not corny??? Man our whole society is backwards man so much. Russell seen as a corny guy for being nice and respectful and I remember coming up and people being surprised how Kanye and drake were very well spoken and intelligent in their interviews and especially for drake people were surprised how clearly you can hear every word that’s soft and corny. But being dumb and not being well spoken somehow be the popular kids in hs and the smart ones usually were seen as try hards and some schools are the opposite the smart kids who played football and did extracurricular activities wee
Dee-1 is a rapper, not a podcaster. And he didn’t fire at Ross or Meek or Jim Jones. He said “I love you too much to not be honest with you.” It’s an honest critique. That’s not firing at somebody.
They sensitive because they don't want truth
Ppl aren’t gonna keep normalizing the dark messages in rap. The Black community lifts up any famous Black person as a semi-activist but they promote things that ruin communities. It’s facts. Joe Buddens old enough to see the decline.
Bro Joe legit has the worst takes on the simplest of issues. Him and flip are master level deflectors. Dee 1 is well known and he's 100% correct in what he said. And simply used those rappers names to drive his point home. Joe is NEVER informed but always has the strongest and most warpped opinions....
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Facts!
Well said. Also let me add, dee 1 is way qualified than Joe to speaking about a legitimate issue.
@@vgiehgan absolutely agreed.
Joe and queenzflip are friends with these guys the other co host aren’t and they’re being honest about the situation
Damn or maybe god forbid people have different opinions lol. Now people are being dishonest for not agreeing
@@Jovaughnbey123 that’s just how I’m viewing the situation everyone can have there opinion I just don’t think that’s how they really feel I think they have to protect their friendships with these guys
@@paidinfull9641I agree with you
I get how the “tag Rick Ross” looks clout chasey but lets be honest if he just had that message without mentioning specific rappers it would have fell on Deaf ears 🤷🏾♂️
Dee1 is a rapper not a podcaster
They goofy af for this take. Read up at least smh. They dropped the ball
You can be both.
So he don’t do podcast? Cause if he does then he’s a podcaster lmaooo
All you have to do is Google his name smh
@@wallykuhlenbergI was like waithe a podcaster now? Lol confused me
Gotta love Joe diverting a productive and constructive topic for our community to have and turn it into the most trivial dispute.
As a fan of Joe, he is REALLY good at that smh. He repelled the shit out of Ice at the end of the clip😂
Joe can't take an L. He just moves the goal post. Respect to Ish and Ice for holding it down. Flip is a sheep.
Is there a research team on the show? Y'all need one. Dee-1 is fully the right person to be bringing this message, as his work in the community is solidified. He's a rapper and a college professor who sees the impact up close. Y'all need to bring him on the pod.
Although I like this pod They are NEVER informed and always lack context. And don’t get me started on their contradictions
Dee-1 is certified, people just want to turn a blind eye because it’s not popular, entertaining or frankly fun by culture standards. “You got it dawg”
Thank you Ish!! We really have to take accountability as a community for the toxicity we allow and to a certain extent push. They’re trying to diminish what he’s saying by just saying he’s clout chasing.
Best comment yet! 👏
Big Facts!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Blah blah blah blah blah …… you lot act like these people ain’t saying noting we ain’t heard before,
Black people are the most emotionally attract people when it’s come to words that why we’re easily offended or easy to trick in politics. Y’all have to learn that action speaks louder then words. Meek mill is free black men out of prison his doing the ground work but talking about frequency and some other shit. Please I beg you please look at people actions and stop looking at people words.
It’s wild because you see why joe is mad he’s a narcissist he would kill your dog while you were at work and see no problem with it at all he’d be like “nah why would you assume it was me? It was me but you didn’t have to bash me and belittle me to get to the bottom of it you weren’t even taking care of that dog” and get to gaslighting you 😂😂
Just because someone’s feelings are hurt or if they disagree with something someone says, doesn’t meant that it’s wrong to say. Joe is focused on these rapper’s hurt feelings and not the message.
Exactly
It's crazy how the brother has to "make a name for himself" before he can speak facts about something 🤦🏿♂️
What do you expect from an industry shill like joe??. And flip is a joe brown noser.
Joe will go at soft rappers like aubrey but never about rick ross
And if they followed bro, they would know that this has been his message for years
Dee1 has been out for years but the poison you’ve been listening to has kept you from the truth and message he’s been speaking on. 🤷🏽♂️
These are conversations people have at home behind closed doors.
This some weak ass arguments joe buddan sounds like a kid
Joe is funny. Talks pop culture, names names, points out hypocrisy, all that. This is a GREAT podcast that is largely about clout as a currency
Calling Dee-1 a PODCASTER is CRAZY.
Damn they called Dee 1 a podcaster lol
50 been saying that for years tho about Ross and meek
Very well said Ish!!! I agree with everything you said and the people who dont get it are the reason we'll always be behind the rest of the world, as a community!
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Joe is a op to the progress of the black community
Sometimes holding each other accountable is the way to go. Ish, Ice and Mel are on the right track on this argument. There comes a time for us to name and shame to make the point clear. We hv been generalising, its not helping.
Not sometimes....all the time, one of the ways to get US back on track!
Those of us that know him, knows that he is qualified to speak. We all know that these kids are extremely influence by the music.
These rappers and ppl in the industry are paid to promote this BS; that’s why he’s so mad.
I never understood how a person who can't get off probation because they keep violating probation becomes the face of prison reform. There are many more deserving ppl than Meek Millz imo. 🤷🏾♀️
Get your point, but the probation terms before Meek was cleared were reckless
Wait a minute, Meeks prison reform representation was covered years ago. Reports and documents were revealed that he was wrongfully put on probation for so long BECAUSE his cases were handled by CROOKED authorities in his city, the former judge after the evidence was presented to her didn’t want to exonerate, dismiss, or pardon Meek which is ludicrous.
They pick your leaders and tell you anyone against the agenda is hating/clout chasing.
Why does Joe have such a problem with calling rappers out?? I personally feel that they should be held accountable for the things they say and do...Rappers are not beyond reproach..
Jay z handle that nigga already 😂
He's protecting his interests and ego
Only him can do it 😂😂😂
Team ISH…..he’s the only reason I watch this show. He’s the only one with some damn sense
Why not hold them accountable? We give them all the praise and glory even when they don't deserve it, so it's only fair.
I’m Dee-1 yall. First: Terrible journalism 😂 AND deflection by Joe Budden. I am a rapper, college professor, community activist, public speaker, etc - (not a professional podcaster). Second: PUBLIC actions deserve PUBLIC responses. So speaking about the LYRICAL CONTENT of rappers is not wrong. Joe, you give your public opinion on public figures for a living actually. We are just afraid of accountability in hip hop.
They’re so focus on how Dee 1 presented his message… then the message alone 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️.
Y’all see the deflection by Joe towards the end? Some folks don’t want to be held accountable.
If you reallt peep Joe wa deflecting the whole time
Why cant we take music like the movies? Because, Rappers are the ones saying THEY LIVE THAT SH!+ dont act like there wasnt a whole period in rap where they said "you cant spit it if you aint live it." Cmon yall.
Thank you people be forgetting that part whenever they try and say it’s just entertainment. No! This shit is sold to us as real life
Facts... is it art or is it reality
The movie arument is a cop out , and has always been..
It’s wild that Joe can see how he’s calling Drake to be more accountable with maturity and growth on his album, but then when Dee-1 is doing the same eith Meek and Ross and Jim as far as their message, Joe is blind!
Feelings over truth this is sad af
Right, can't even have a real conversation without a mans feelings being hurt 😂 but joe been connected 👁
Joe was being gaslighty the whole time. He didn’t even let them finish their point. Started talking over and clowning them just to cut them off.
These peeps are so DAMN SENSITIVE !!! You call out names when giving the example !!!! Simple as that !!! If the 3 rappers named you didn’t like or was into, none complaining WOULD CARE !!!!
Joe Budden & Flip is making D1's point. He's been talking about this subject for years but they didn't talk about it until he named dropped some rappers
People who don't actually know how to make a point be so mad when you use an concrete example.
Meek, Ross and Jim are the concrete example. Smh.
Meek Ross Jim didn’t need a random guy hating on how they feed their family.. that’s how ppl get hurt
Good job Ish you spoke exactly what he was trying to say, and called these crime rap millionaires out. Joe sounds like a rapper trying to justify the bs, saying it’s clout chasing but will big up 50 cent for the how to rob record.
He’s Absolutely Correct. Never trust these Entertainers because they’re only concerned about the money.
Facts facts
Bring him on the pod
Right! Because obviously they need him to break it down for them 🥴
He’s not putting them down at all. He proved a point y’all rather have them kill the other side then call out the negativity in rap.
Have Dee-1 on the podcast. He had a great talk with Turk on B-High ATL's show.
Joe just because you dont know somebody doesnt mean they are not known 5:20
Joe was not trying to listen to the argument objectively, he was too busy trying to defend his friends.
Joe disappointed me wit this take he know what that man saying is true them rappers need to get out they feelings
Because Joe likes these artists. That’s why he defending them.
Dee 1 is a rapper bruh. Cmon yall do research
It’s obvious they have no clue about Dee-1. He’s darn sure not a podcaster. He’s been rapping since forever.
He’s a rapper
I hate the "why can they make movies about this stuff but musicians are held accountable" Easy answer. Because when Arnold gets done filming The Last Action Terminator he doesn't go do interviews and say "THAT WAS REALLY ME I DID THAT FOR REAL". They acknowledge that its fantasy. Meanwhile rappers will go to the grave swearing that every word out of their mouth is real life and will actively call out other artists who they dont feel "really love their lyrics". Joe would be the FIRST one talking about "he really aint bout that life" then turn around with his hands up liek "why cant we just make art"
When you say something real, most people in todays age will call you a “hater” “clout chasing” or “trying to stay relevant”…not everybody, but most people
🛑 coddling these rappers… tag those Mofos
Dee-1 been solidified and ain't have to sell his soul like others.
He's a Rapper Fellas. Look him up, research his Music. He's a Rapper who is a Christian.
Jim Jones, Rick Ross and Meek Mill all missed the point and responded with emotions (not so much Meek though) instead of taking in what was said and responding like the mature men they should be at this point in their lives. Like the late great Tupac said, "I made a G today," but you made it in a sleazy way. . .just because its "art" and this is they way you make money (as Jim Jones said) doesnt make it okay or right!!! Im with Dee on this one!
First things first, All of us contradict ourselves. But not all of us have the same reach as these rappers so it is different.
They should be held accountable for their messages in their music and what they do in real life. Its not clout chasing, its bravery because the guys he named love using their power and money for violence well at least they say it in their music but then they go scream justice reform. Pick a side and be solid and stand on that side. I’m tired of these guys that come from the street, make it out and become successful, preach good positive things at one moment and then spew negativity the next. I didn’t know Dee1 prior but he’s right and salute to him.
Acting like the message in the music doesn’t matter is something we gotta stop doing in hip hop music. It’s literally killing us….
He's definitely not clout chasing
Joe you know I love you but have some respect Dee-1 is a RAPPER who has been holding music artist accountable for a long time.
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Go tell these rappers to their face that its only art and that none of what they say is real. Only time they will agree is if there are negative consequences to them doing it.
These rappers want the luxury of taking no responsibility for what they say in there raps but they want all the benefits that comes from everyone thinking its real.
They so scared of these dudes. They know what he saying is right.
Definitely agree with Ish on this
Music hits on a different vibration than movies. Its like hypnotism when a youngin hears that message over and over it can become a norm. Its irresponsible for Joe to say a rapper should be able to say whatever in the booth. If thats the case let someone rap about runnin up in Joes house and then it'll hit close to home
He has told us who he is!!! He is very much qualified!!! Joe get a late pass!!! He isn’t chasing any clout!!! He didn’t put nobody down!!!
as the other comments say dee-1 is not a podcaster. hes a rapper. all joe had to do was google search him. he has the laptop in front of him. smh 🤦🏿
The devil made him not do it.
Exactly. He chose not to “on mic/camera” on purpose. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s already googled him. It’s wild because I’ve supported Joe forever, I can always tell when he’s tucking tail on one of his takes.
Dee 1 has been pushing his message for years and his music. He is consistently positive. Its emotional to "feel" (not think) that questioning or critique means that he is putting them down or attacking them personally.
Telling the truth is putting somebody down??? That's crazy.
You can keep it in the studio as long as you keep it in the studio. Denzel ain't out here getting in scuffles with Robert Deniro, dropping a short film about it. Lol
This particular instance feels like willful ignorance. It takes ONE Google to find out that they have Dee-1 completely wrong. He’s NOT a podcaster, he’s not JUST being introduced to the public, as much as I’ve disagreed with some of his takes in the past Dee-1 is THEE PERFECT person to bring this stuff up to them (Ross specifically). He’s been working with kids his WHOLE life and I’m sure has seen first hand the affects that “low vibrational” music has on kids
The age old argument with rap
Joe’s energy off the bat was proving @Dee1 point without speaking in the beginning. As Christians/ Believers we draw a line and stand on “Truth.” Joe you running a podcast aside from your music is still putting out the same vibe. You can be relevant but not producing any positive message at all. You are the words you speak and the actions will follow.
Black people hate accountability
You have a point
Joe straight up was defensive over this topic. It was obvious. "Put Molly all in her drink..she ain't even know it" 😂
By Joe's logic this entire show is one big clout chase. That's the problem with our people. Ego makes it impossible to take accountability.
You result to "He's clout chasing" because there's absolutely nothing else you can say. Dude is right. It's just a hard pill to swallow for the hip hop community.
Why does anyone have to be qualified to speak the truth? Regardless of what it is. The truth will forever be the truth! A broken clock is right two times a day…🤷🏾♂️
The more they speak on stuff I actually know about, the more I realize they don't really do much research on their topics. Dee-1 has been around for years doing his thing, RAPPING, not podcasting and his community work and action on what he's discussing is what qualifies him. Joe talking about "He (Dee-1) has a lot to do" is WILD.
Wait y’all calling Dee1 a podcaster??? 😂 bro been out since 08 putting in the work. And he’s right by challenging these artists pen
The most coverage he's got by name dropping not for his talent..thats the reason he did it..he got a album out lol
@@ryanncookrc his point still stands once y’all get past the hypotheticals
Dee1 is not a “podcaster” from N.O
He’s been making music sense 2008. He has a song called JayZ, 50Cent, and Lil Wayne with over 1.5 million views that dropped 13 years ago
The sad thing is they’re trying to diminish him by calling him a Podcaster when they saw the video and he was on sway in the morning. I’ve never seen a podcast on sway in the morning, so they know he’s a dope rapper they trying to diminish him because of what he said, I’m a bit upset with Joe on this one, bro you eaten, good and been eating good. You know damn well none of them fools is living at street life no more at this point in their careers. Regardless Dee 1 got a point it’s poison. At one point the industry called it crack Muzik, and it is that. Not only Dee 1 checked them, but he Stand and live by what he was saying. Get your facts together. I love this show, but this is one topic that y’all dropped the ball on.
So basically, Joe, Flip and Parks don't want established artists to be called out for anything.
He’s not a podcaster. Put respect on his name ! He a rapper that’s living by faith. Bro standing on what he stand on and nothing is wrong about it.
"UNTIL THE CULTURE STARTS HOLDING ITSELF ACCOUNTABLE, WE WILL NEVER BEGIN TO PROGRESS"
You over 30 still rapping about robbing, killing,stealing etc you have failed imo
I mean a key difference in the movie vs music debate is that we've never seen Denzel get arrested with a few keys or catch a gun charge. When your art reflects how you have or are currently living your life whatever comes with that is on you. If Meek or anyone wants to spread another message than everything has to align or what you're doing looks disingenuous.
I hate when Joe makes me cringe in his narcissistic episodes. I love him so much, but boy 🥴 this was a very clear point. Ish and Ice stating facts.
Also I really wanted to hear what Mel was going to say….
He didn't put anyone down. If rappers reserve the right to say whatever they want then Dee1 has the right to deliver his message the way he desires. His message is definitely striking nerves, they've never been challenged...
Folks be afraid to offend people. Meek & Ross are definitely wrong… we can’t look at music like movies WHEN ARTIST SWEAR THEY REAL & this their life🤷🏾♂️Jim was with the gangbangin to be popular but his kids go to private school & Dee1 can out rap them niggas too🤷🏾♂️
Jim love saying he outside. Once you move out the hood you not outside nore its fineto fa that. You whats crazy, off subject, I looked D1 net worth and it says he around 18 Million. The boy is richer than Jimmy by doing what right in his community opose to Jiimmy (almost 50yrs) tryina be outside
They really gonna sit up there and say that people should point out the problems but protect the people who are literally causing the problem. GTFOH.
The refusal to acknowledge the detriment gangsta rap has been to the black community is disgusting. Things will never change as long as mfs ignore this fact.
This is why ish is absolutely needed on this pod
The bottomline is men aren't used to being called out and held accountable by another man without resorting the violence.
I AGREE WITH THAT PODCASTER 100%!!!! I’m glad he mentioned certain rappers!!!