Had two anchors fail. I was very angry. About 8 years ago. The anchors got eaten through by the acid in the building. I got up buy steeplejacking and my level 3 at the time thought I'd need time off. Having ladders pop occasionaly is part and parcle. It did hurt but it was my first day. The anchors weren't near big enough and it spurred me on to be a level 3.
Added time but how about using a grillion as a "Tow rope" so the grillion goes to the top anchor, clip that into the trailing cowstails before taking it out the eyelet using the capture method, then take the slack out as you go so it's always under tension but does move up too.
Would it be fair to assume the force generated would be doubled if falling on 2 cowstails vs 1 cowstail. I.e. when you see techs “cowstailing” instead of using FA Lanyards.k x
I am not an IRATA technician but why not use Twist-Lock carabiners in cowstail. With so much manipulation, a carabiner can be left unclosed. twist-lock is automatic and although it opens easily I think it more than compensates for the risk of unintentionally leaving a thread open...
It'll be personal pref on the field and triple* actions are more expensive than screw gates, my current company I work for tells us to use the trips* on critical points like our backup and defenders and screw gates on gear. For a small company of 15, this is a wise move, if all 15 people kept dropping ( shouldn't be happening) the trips* it'll cost a small fortune whereas it'll be less painful to buy screw gates. Level 3 has the ASAP Lock and a standard ASAP for rescues and the rest has KONG Back-Up (it works almost like the "Duck S" but not built the same). Until we grow a lot more and have a lot more business I can understand and reason it out that we don't need the latest and greatest. Is it more convenient? Yes! Is it required? Not really. The worst we've done to a carabiner so far was someone dropping one in the cement mix, not 1 but 2 carabiners and buddy used the autoblocks (triples) and not the screw gates like it was recommended; He was just "trying" to snap it the rope hitch to the bucket and it slipped from his hand.
I agree for those carabiners used for aid climbing progression non lockers are what most rock climbers use (granted we are clipping the rope to gear as we ascend) so I would think something like the Petzl twist lock (level 2 locking carabiner) or their ball lock design would be a nice compromise for this rope less aid climbing where fixed anchor points are used exclusively. However I admittedly do not know if that would be allowed under the rules for an IRATA tech to use. All that screwing and unscrewing of the three screw gate carabiners would drive me nuts (at least the newer Petzl screw gates take significantly less turns to lock and unlock vs the older round stock versions of their carabiners).
"Slacking off on my progress"
Yes I noticed you started climbing slower..😂
Had two anchors fail. I was very angry. About 8 years ago. The anchors got eaten through by the acid in the building.
I got up buy steeplejacking and my level 3 at the time thought I'd need time off. Having ladders pop occasionaly is part and parcle. It did hurt but it was my first day.
The anchors weren't near big enough and it spurred me on to be a level 3.
Added time but how about using a grillion as a "Tow rope" so the grillion goes to the top anchor, clip that into the trailing cowstails before taking it out the eyelet using the capture method, then take the slack out as you go so it's always under tension but does move up too.
Very nice video and well explained 👍👏👏👏
Show, muito bom!
Would it be fair to assume the force generated would be doubled if falling on 2 cowstails vs 1 cowstail.
I.e. when you see techs “cowstailing” instead of using FA Lanyards.k x
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7:25 It's obvious - knot is a microabsorber.
Is the progress not back to front? So you have the sewn bit on the d and the adjustable bit clipped?
Ignore that just read the fiche technique!
I am not an IRATA technician but why not use Twist-Lock carabiners in cowstail. With so much manipulation, a carabiner can be left unclosed. twist-lock is automatic and although it opens easily I think it more than compensates for the risk of unintentionally leaving a thread open...
It'll be personal pref on the field and triple* actions are more expensive than screw gates, my current company I work for tells us to use the trips* on critical points like our backup and defenders and screw gates on gear. For a small company of 15, this is a wise move, if all 15 people kept dropping ( shouldn't be happening) the trips* it'll cost a small fortune whereas it'll be less painful to buy screw gates.
Level 3 has the ASAP Lock and a standard ASAP for rescues and the rest has KONG Back-Up (it works almost like the "Duck S" but not built the same). Until we grow a lot more and have a lot more business I can understand and reason it out that we don't need the latest and greatest. Is it more convenient? Yes! Is it required? Not really.
The worst we've done to a carabiner so far was someone dropping one in the cement mix, not 1 but 2 carabiners and buddy used the autoblocks (triples) and not the screw gates like it was recommended; He was just "trying" to snap it the rope hitch to the bucket and it slipped from his hand.
I agree for those carabiners used for aid climbing progression non lockers are what most rock climbers use (granted we are clipping the rope to gear as we ascend) so I would think something like the Petzl twist lock (level 2 locking carabiner) or their ball lock design would be a nice compromise for this rope less aid climbing where fixed anchor points are used exclusively. However I admittedly do not know if that would be allowed under the rules for an IRATA tech to use. All that screwing and unscrewing of the three screw gate carabiners would drive me nuts (at least the newer Petzl screw gates take significantly less turns to lock and unlock vs the older round stock versions of their carabiners).
What brand was the quick release used for the drop test
Здравствуйте можно видео L3 большой луп пасение пожалуйста
If put a force meter after the absorbica? Will there be a difference in force?
No reason why it would be
What weight bag are are using in the test please?
80 KG
@@AccessTechniques Thanks what brand is is - where can I get one?
Spanset, we sell them if you want one. send us a email and I can send a quote.
@@AccessTechniques Will do thanks.
Fall Factor 3; not good method during climbing