I have used a poncho for over 40 years and find them the best all round method of keeping myself and my kit dry. My latest poncho also doubles as a tarp which is awesome. Highly recommend them.
thats another level of ultralight. I do a lot of bushwhacking so I can't trust my poncho to be my shelter as well but for places where that isn't a risk I see big weight savings there. What poncho do you use?
@@IdRatherBeHiking Its a military style poncho made by Tomshoo, chinese i presume. I bought it, to replace my old one which was well used, for a recent Scottish hike/wild camp. It was only £9.99 on ebay but is actually great value. Worked great in Scotland where it got a thorough test in the rain. Not sure how long it will last but at that price if i have to buy a new one every year i won't mind. Happy hiking. 👍
Cool comparison, thanks for the information! For my specific use case, I'm leaning toward a pack liner and poncho. Also, looks like I'm your 10,000th subscriber :) Keep it up!
I have one of those Coleman ponchos they work great I have had it for years and it keeps everything nice and dry. anything like cameras etc always go in large ziplock bags never had any water get in those at all.
Ya those ponchos are an easy solution when it rains and are useful if you are climbing a lot of elevation and need to have your rain jacket off but still need rain protection. Ziplock is a good camera solution.
Having grown up and begun my hiking hobby on Vancouver Island ('WET' Coast Trail) I know the need for decent rain covers! I have found the contractor garbage bags a great option. I also put anything that could be damaged or become useless if it gets wet into ziplock bags. Helps keep my pack organized too. Happy hiking, David!
You too dude, you are like my europeon brother haha. The grind of adventure films with low views was killing my soul so I've decided to incorporate more "direct value" content coming from my experience in the woods now with the adventure stuff peppered in. Time for a change after 4 years, you know this all too well, you've got dozens of videos chasing the same dream.
@@IdRatherBeHiking It can be tiring to film every week, but don't focus on the views, but enjoy the editing. I've been filming for two years and I really do it because I enjoy hiking and generally filming and showing the places I visit! Views and some serious earnings come as a reward at the end.
@@ervinslensAre you trying to make this a full time gig or no? I lost my main channel so I'm drowning right now. What youtube did to me has wrecked my life, we'll see if I can claw my way out of this.
@@IdRatherBeHiking I'm not thinking about it being a full-time job, I'm enjoying myself while I'm doing this, and I'll see what happens! How did you lose the channel?
@@ervinslensI have a video 10 or 15 videos back titled "A Hacker + TH-cam Ruined My Life" if you want the details but bascially I spent 8 years building another channel to 245,000 subs was my main source of income, it was hacked 3 months ago and the hacker rebranded it to look like a crypto company to scam people. TH-cam deleted my channel and won't give it back.
👍👍👍 .. good overview .. thanks 😊. Depending on the Season, Weather (current / projected / thumbsuck), What I'm doing, Where I'm Going and for How Long .. 'Dollar Store' Poncho .. Better Poncho .. Rain Jacket .. Garbage Bag Pack Liner .. Ziploc Bags for Items / Sets of Items in Pack .. Telescopic Umbrella. Stuff in Pack has never got wet. Me? Clothes at times, yes .. but then Skin is waterproof .. and that's what a dry change of clothing in Ziploc Bags is for. 'Goretex' / equivalent .. overpriced and overrated in my opinion. Depending on the activity, one gets wet from outside, inside or both.
Your Vlogs are like a breath of fresh air in the TH-cam world, bringing crucial environmental awareness to the forefront. It's astonishing how your content quality remains consistently top-notch, even with the limited views. Thank you for your dedication and the valuable information you're spreading. Your efforts truly deserve to reach a wider audience, and I'm confident that more views and subscribers will find their way to your channel as your hard work continues. Keep blazing the trail!" 🔥🌿💚
Cheers Lucifer I appreciate that. I refuse to upload sub par junk espeically since I've spent to much work learning how to produce quality content, I just couldn't live with myself. I am talking a step back from producing adventure films and producing 5 educational ones for every 1 adventure video. Perhaps after I put up a bunch of teaching videos people will then want to see the adventures I go on, it has worked on other channels. I do have 7 more adventure films already shot with 2 of those being first ascents! Stay tuned, thanks for your support.
Almost all experienced backpackers seem to agree that you should always use a pack liner regardless of what other measures you use on top of that. Most backpacks are not truly waterproof despite the marketing, but a pack liner will never soak through. Pack covers do not keep the back panel dry and ponchos can be great but blow around like crazy in the wind. If you are exposed to prolonged rain you WILL get wet. There is no such thing as a breathable waterproof rain jacket, only breathable water resistant ones (yes the marketing teams are lying to you). Once the DWR coating fails, which it will, the membrane will also fail and water will seep through. Rain jackets are also not very breathable so you will sweat like crazy and get wet that way. It's important to have a good shelter that you can use if you start to get hypothermia from being wet (a tarp or bivy at the very least, but preferably a tent or hammock). This is why its so important to keep the stuff in your pack dry, like your sleeping bag.
Agreed, this is why I bring a cheap poncho and a rain jacket so I can hike with the jacket off if I need to and my body and still breathe with the cheap poncho. Better to have more options than less, sometimes I risk it, bringing less, with a good forecast but I'm doing that less and less these days.
@@IdRatherBeHiking I mean I’ve done 30 miles on the AT over a 3 day weekend with a 55-60lb pack. Adding 2-3 pounds for a waterproof roll top pack (daypack size) isn’t a big deal. Even for something like a 55L backpack, you could have a normal pack with a normal roll top 55L dry bag as an insert with everything inside of it and it will only add a few ounces to your overall weight. So yeah for daypacks I think a roll too dry pack is fine, for huge technical packs having a dry bag inside the pack with all your stuff in it is ideal.
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I have used a poncho for over 40 years and find them the best all round method of keeping myself and my kit dry.
My latest poncho also doubles as a tarp which is awesome. Highly recommend them.
thats another level of ultralight. I do a lot of bushwhacking so I can't trust my poncho to be my shelter as well but for places where that isn't a risk I see big weight savings there. What poncho do you use?
@@IdRatherBeHiking
Its a military style poncho made by Tomshoo, chinese i presume.
I bought it, to replace my old one which was well used, for a recent Scottish hike/wild camp.
It was only £9.99 on ebay but is actually great value. Worked great in Scotland where it got a thorough test in the rain. Not sure how long it will last but at that price if i have to buy a new one every year i won't mind.
Happy hiking. 👍
@@jeremymanning2132ya that is a great deal
Cool comparison, thanks for the information! For my specific use case, I'm leaning toward a pack liner and poncho. Also, looks like I'm your 10,000th subscriber :) Keep it up!
Great idea to add the cheap poncho on top of the pack and raincoat etc. will check it out at the dollar store😊
Sometimes you can't pull them out of the package so its a gamble what you get in there.
I have one of those Coleman ponchos they work great I have had it for years and it keeps everything nice and dry. anything like cameras etc always go in large ziplock bags never had any water get in those at all.
Ya those ponchos are an easy solution when it rains and are useful if you are climbing a lot of elevation and need to have your rain jacket off but still need rain protection. Ziplock is a good camera solution.
Having grown up and begun my hiking hobby on Vancouver Island ('WET' Coast Trail) I know the need for decent rain covers! I have found the contractor garbage bags a great option. I also put anything that could be damaged or become useless if it gets wet into ziplock bags. Helps keep my pack organized too. Happy hiking, David!
They ususally have the draw string tops which work well to sinch around the body too!
Your content deserves more recognition bud, outstanding upload! This was explained brilliantly!
You too dude, you are like my europeon brother haha. The grind of adventure films with low views was killing my soul so I've decided to incorporate more "direct value" content coming from my experience in the woods now with the adventure stuff peppered in. Time for a change after 4 years, you know this all too well, you've got dozens of videos chasing the same dream.
@@IdRatherBeHiking It can be tiring to film every week, but don't focus on the views, but enjoy the editing. I've been filming for two years and I really do it because I enjoy hiking and generally filming and showing the places I visit! Views and some serious earnings come as a reward at the end.
@@ervinslensAre you trying to make this a full time gig or no? I lost my main channel so I'm drowning right now. What youtube did to me has wrecked my life, we'll see if I can claw my way out of this.
@@IdRatherBeHiking I'm not thinking about it being a full-time job, I'm enjoying myself while I'm doing this, and I'll see what happens! How did you lose the channel?
@@ervinslensI have a video 10 or 15 videos back titled "A Hacker + TH-cam Ruined My Life" if you want the details but bascially I spent 8 years building another channel to 245,000 subs was my main source of income, it was hacked 3 months ago and the hacker rebranded it to look like a crypto company to scam people. TH-cam deleted my channel and won't give it back.
👍👍👍 .. good overview .. thanks 😊.
Depending on the Season, Weather (current / projected / thumbsuck), What I'm doing, Where I'm Going and for How Long ..
'Dollar Store' Poncho .. Better Poncho .. Rain Jacket .. Garbage Bag Pack Liner .. Ziploc Bags for Items / Sets of Items in Pack .. Telescopic Umbrella.
Stuff in Pack has never got wet. Me? Clothes at times, yes .. but then Skin is waterproof .. and that's what a dry change of clothing in Ziploc Bags is for.
'Goretex' / equivalent .. overpriced and overrated in my opinion. Depending on the activity, one gets wet from outside, inside or both.
Your Vlogs are like a breath of fresh air in the TH-cam world, bringing crucial environmental awareness to the forefront. It's astonishing how your content quality remains consistently top-notch, even with the limited views. Thank you for your dedication and the valuable information you're spreading. Your efforts truly deserve to reach a wider audience, and I'm confident that more views and subscribers will find their way to your channel as your hard work continues. Keep blazing the trail!" 🔥🌿💚
Cheers Lucifer I appreciate that. I refuse to upload sub par junk espeically since I've spent to much work learning how to produce quality content, I just couldn't live with myself. I am talking a step back from producing adventure films and producing 5 educational ones for every 1 adventure video. Perhaps after I put up a bunch of teaching videos people will then want to see the adventures I go on, it has worked on other channels. I do have 7 more adventure films already shot with 2 of those being first ascents! Stay tuned, thanks for your support.
I like the super cheap options like the rubbish bags. No need to waste money, that's what beer is for.
haha that works too
And I was told that I own too many backpacks 😏🤣... Nice video buddy, super informative 👍
I have more than you can see haha, glad it was helpful
Almost all experienced backpackers seem to agree that you should always use a pack liner regardless of what other measures you use on top of that. Most backpacks are not truly waterproof despite the marketing, but a pack liner will never soak through. Pack covers do not keep the back panel dry and ponchos can be great but blow around like crazy in the wind.
If you are exposed to prolonged rain you WILL get wet. There is no such thing as a breathable waterproof rain jacket, only breathable water resistant ones (yes the marketing teams are lying to you). Once the DWR coating fails, which it will, the membrane will also fail and water will seep through. Rain jackets are also not very breathable so you will sweat like crazy and get wet that way. It's important to have a good shelter that you can use if you start to get hypothermia from being wet (a tarp or bivy at the very least, but preferably a tent or hammock). This is why its so important to keep the stuff in your pack dry, like your sleeping bag.
Agreed, this is why I bring a cheap poncho and a rain jacket so I can hike with the jacket off if I need to and my body and still breathe with the cheap poncho. Better to have more options than less, sometimes I risk it, bringing less, with a good forecast but I'm doing that less and less these days.
You should look into the Packa. Good solution for rain gear.
Such a detailed video. Appreciate it.
cheers glad it helped
If you use your pack liner as your bear hang, don't you end up potentially with a wet pack liner everyday going into your pack??
shake it off, if it is raining then the wet side stays out the bag will be wet anyway so it doesn't change anything
Do you have experience using a rain kilt?
I have never heard of a rain kilt but now looking at it, I bet it makes it easy to drop off a bear cairn when you need to!
Gossamer Gear umbrella.
I’d rather just use a submersible pack to begin with than any of these solutions honestly
problem is a submersible pack weighs twice as much
@@IdRatherBeHiking I mean I’ve done 30 miles on the AT over a 3 day weekend with a 55-60lb pack. Adding 2-3 pounds for a waterproof roll top pack (daypack size) isn’t a big deal. Even for something like a 55L backpack, you could have a normal pack with a normal roll top 55L dry bag as an insert with everything inside of it and it will only add a few ounces to your overall weight.
So yeah for daypacks I think a roll too dry pack is fine, for huge technical packs having a dry bag inside the pack with all your stuff in it is ideal.
You just put 2 layers of 1$ ponchos. Case solved !....