I think it would be a really neat idea to integrate the touch ID button into your desk instead of a bulky dongle that can get knocked around on the desk. I wonder if DIY Perks would be willing to have a go at it?
It’s not that hard. Just use a router to create a crater in the table top that the dongle can seat in. Then cover the dongle with a wood vinyl. Et voila.
It'd be easy. Just make a hole in the desk and then you're done haha. May drill a Touch ID-sized hole right into my keyboard deck and put the board inside. The options of where you can put stuff are kinda limitless, but I liked the idea of a dedicated module.
I imagine that this is a first step in a process that will result in me being able to buy a pre-assembled version of this (maybe in aluminum or walnut?), so as a Mac Studio owner who has graduated from Apple keyboards, thank you so much for making this happen.
I know it’s an un-Apple like solution but for the longest time I’ve wanted Apple to build a usb webcam with the fantastic rear cameras from their iPhones with faceID. I’m sure a product like that will never exist (especially with continuity camera) but I can dream
@Jack Rainey no because you require your phone, a way to prop it up/stand. oh and of course a supported Mac and iPhone. not to mention you can't use your phone anymore while using the webcam.
@@asronome older webcams were just cameras. My point was the iPhone has all the hardware. I always wonder why people want high res web cams. What the heck do you use them for? If I’m using Zoom or whatever I couldn’t give a crap if the image is HD.
This whole ordeal is kind of a perfect encapsulation of why I hate Apple as a company. This is an expensive piece of tech that is built to be entirely disposable. One thing goes wrong and you basically have to replace the entire thing.
@@jonathanodude6660 apparently so. Because... Apple. You'd think that they would make it backwards compatible with T2 chips, but not according to the compatibility tab on these new keyboards.
@@TheStudioFreq I know right... The moment I saw these keyboards I wanted to get one for myself to have the fingerprint right there on the keyboard, but unfortunately I have an Intel Mac.
As a MechE masters student, I highly recommend the Prusa Mini+ tbh. It requires super minimal maintenance compared to many other entry level printers, and just works the vast majority of the time.
I would even go ahead and modify my already existing mechanical keyboard to incorporate this as a "module" by either modifying its casing or making an attachment in the same style. You can then splice the incoming usb connection to that keyboard for 5v and ground and then connect it to a lightning port/cable. Then you can have it work even more seemless!
If they sold this and it worked with Macs and iPads with Stage Manager so you do not have to physically bend over just to authenticate, I will buy 10 of them ASAP. Your move, Timmy.
@@AlejandroLZuvic Stage Manager runs on external monitor support for iPadOS 16 with M-series chips. Hence me saying Stage Manager. Should’ve specified but it is what it is.
I’ve wanted a “send auth requests to my iPhone” from my macs for a long time. That way your Mac could use FaceId (or touched) by proxy. Like it does with the watch!
This is fantastic. Ive been telling anyone that will listen that I think Apple should just make Touch ID a damn separate accessory, but perhaps now I can just do it myself.
Awesome video Snazzy. I actually complained to an Apple employee that this product should exist quite a while ago! So it’s awesome to see you build a product I’ve been wanting for so long. This certainly seems like a great project and if we can get a few remixes or third party batteries to fit with the logic board, to make the product as small as possible, I really think I’d take the plunge and buy one of these keyboards to build this project. Great job and looks amazing for your first 3D project!
I was talking about needing this with a coworker today and I’m so glad to see it was a success! I’m going to have to keep an eye out for a cheap Touch ID keyboard and follow your lead. I love typing on a mechanical keyboard but I miss all my apple features. Thanks for doing this!
This is pretty awesome, I want to try something like this for my desktop at some point And just a tip so that you don't get made fun of by engineers - fillet is fill-et in manufacturing not fill-ay like with food
i feel like people who make custom keybaords could find a way to integrate this into a fancy mechanical keyboard similar to how apple does it, it might be super difficult and unreasonable but I have seen people do some crazy things so idk
Thanks for finding a way to do this. I've always wondered if it was possible. I just bought a Magic Keyboard with Touch ID off eBay. Can't wait to start this project.
It's amazing that they don't sell a face id webcam by now. Wouldn't be that hard to make and it would be quite compact if they just used the same module as from the iPhone
I think they’re going to opt for encouraging further ecosystem immersion. Continuity camera just became a public feature, I’m sure they’re planning to lean into that. If you have an iPhone, you technically already have a faceID camera.
I thought of doing this EXACT project a while back and even looked at the ifixit teardown and the only reason I stopped was the battery. Wanted a small adapter. Now that I know it works without the battery will definitely try this as I have plenty of those compact keyboards!
I'm time traveling from October 2023 - very nice project. I happen to love my Apple keyboards, but I've long wanted a standalone fingerprint sensor. It never occurred to me to canabalize a "perfectly good" keyboard - and your demo was very instructive. Thanks again, and I continue to subscribe!
For small stuff like the thing you plastic welded you can always just thread your screws into the plastic. You could even just make the posts, drill a small hole, then use a screw.
I have had the same Magic Keyboard for 8 years, never had issues with it. Got it with my 2015 iMac. I love the thing! It hurts to see you rip one to bits, but neat idea!
@@AlejandroLZuvic Some mechanical keyboards like the Keychron Q1 and many others have these Knobs for changing the audio volume. The sensor could go at that place, so the layout would be identical to Apple's Keyboards.
Yes, I hope also that this can be standardize so this can be opensourced. meaning the keyboard send the data, and the computer decide to unlock or not, but this seems to be very far in the future (and not using a mac)
I’d love to see apple release a standalone Touch ID button for those who have a T2 or Apple Silicon Mac but don’t want to use an Apple Keyboard, I fear for the price though…
For items that are relatively flat that you need precise measurements use a regular paper scanner and take the scan into your 3d modeling software and scale it. As long as you can get it to scan it is by far the best method of getting dimensions of things like this.
Dude. You figured out something I've been wanting for a long time. Thank you! Glad you found Shapr3d useful too - I use it to design HiFi speakers for building with my CNC and it does an excellent job there as well.
I think adding those guys to a custom mechanical keyboard shouldn’t be too hard. Added bonus would be the use of USB C if it’s done right. You’ve inspired me. I’d build one and post when it gets done if I could find a sponsor. Parts are a bit pricey for me at the moment
I'm certified in various industrial level 3D design programs, and the program which you used to design your case was surprisingly similar to "the real deal", it just needs the ability to handle parts with thousands of edits, and a built in simulation suite.
This is awesome! I’ve thought about the possibility of this existing for a while, hoping Apple would make it themselves (knowing the 0% odds of that happening). Nice work!
That old school keyboard has to have plenty of room for all those electronics in it. That would have been a nice way to go. Might even be able to do a mod to get power from the old port or convert the old keyboard to using USB-C.
Great vid :) I’m a mechanical design engineer who uses 3D modeling programs all day everyday, and the word “fillet”, when used in an engineering CAD context, actually sounds like “FILL-it”. Bugs the crap outta me, honestly, but ‘tis the English language!
Thanks for clearing the path to safely getting at them sensor. I got a used keyboard from ebay and successfully removed the touch id. Now I want to attach it to the side of my clicky mechanical keyboard)
What's a 10 keyless keyboard 14:23 ? Why am I confused with the model names for the what keyboard to buy. Epic mod though. I'd seen this years ago and came back as now I have a monitor for my MBP because of my aging eyes. haha.
Cool project. I find the Magic Keyboard is great how it is. Using them for almost 10 years, before it had Touch ID, and never once felt it needed an improvement. Apple doesn’t get everything right but this accessory they did.
I use an old Apple Extended II ADP keyboard (via an ADP->USB adapter) and I'm thinking I could remove one of the ADB connectors and mount a touch ID key in it's place. The hole for the ADP socket seems to be exactly the right size (~1cm). I'm not sure I want to glue it on though as I don't want to make a permanent modification to the keyboard but I'm thinking that's the only way to do it. 🤔
When he mentions, at 12:00 minutes in, he used a digital caliper to measure the distance between mounting holes in the board wouldn't it have been possible, and eaiser, to 3-D scan the board with his iPhone, import that into his modelling app/program then get the exact distance for the 3-D render of the Touch ID casing? Admittedly, I'm not, nor have I ever been, an iPhone owner/user but assumed that capability is possible with LiDAR in the phone's camera setup.
Yup it would’ve been possible. I guess he either forgot about it or wanted to show you how easy it is using the app and that basically everyone can make one
Would the quality of the lidar scan be enough though? I feel like all the examples I've seen as well as photogrammetry have still yielded not very high fidelity models that you could reliably get a 1mm accurate scan to reference. I've tried both ways but the iPad pro lidar scanner wasn't as good as just using calipers and rulers to measure.
This could probably be updated to use a USB c connector, and could maybe be integrated into a custom mechanical keyboard so that it doesn’t seem so bulky
could you use a Touch ID sensor from an iPhone? if you have one laying around from a previous upgrade, you could harvest the insides. (I'm speaking before completing the video)
Some of these little modules could be incorporated into the design of a mechanical keyboard to give them touch id functionality! Fantastic video, really sets yourself apart here from other tech TH-camrs
I'm very new to macs, just got one at work last month actually, but used iphones for years. I like touch id but i also liked it on my old iphones. But my iphones hasn't had it for years. Why don't they offer the face id option? If you have apple monitors with camera?
You would thing that, with how dongle happy Apple is, that they would have an individual Touch ID sensor dongle available for purchase. Seems like an easy product for Apple to make money on.
lol so just tried this with the TKL variant and tried to shove the whole touch ID inside of a Keycron keyboard. I ended up breaking my touch ID (and battery) so now I have a wired magic keyboard lmao. **A word of advice if you're using the TKL version: - When you remove the first back layer, be careful to remove ONLY the white part. The black part has the battery attached to it and WILL snap the ribbon cable (and any chance you had of getting wireless to work. - The TouchID shown in this video is nice and neat because it's right next to the logic board, but that's because it's the full sized. The TKL layout has an extension cable that runs through half of the case and is VERY delicate. I suggest you just keep the entire connection from the TouchID to the board in tact if you can. I opened and closed the connection between the TouchID and the extension ribbon too many times and it broke on me meaning no fingerprint censor. -Bonus: If you hook up the touchID connection to the logic board in the opposite direction, you'll get a surprisingly hot finger warmer.
a little mini tower on the top of your rev 1 for the keypress backer would have given you good back pressure point. with it flat it was deforming too much.
Neat idea. When I upgrade my desktop Mac I might think about doing this. However if you're only using the sensor and the logic board why not just build it into your keyboard. Heck if it's got the room for it you could probably keep the batteries.
You know whatll be your next challenge and really awesome!… try extending the cable from the logic board to the touch id using micro enamelled wire . That way you can hide the logic board and only have the touch if visible… thatll be amazing and really good looking! You may require some micro-soldering techniques buy hey, a challenge is supposed to be challenging!!!! Please try !!!!
if we had the schematics for the 10-key logicboard we could see if maybe not the whole board is needed. If the traces are routed nicely one could even build a homebutton board not much bigger than the processor that runs the show.
I think it would be a really neat idea to integrate the touch ID button into your desk instead of a bulky dongle that can get knocked around on the desk. I wonder if DIY Perks would be willing to have a go at it?
on it
It’s not that hard. Just use a router to create a crater in the table top that the dongle can seat in. Then cover the dongle with a wood vinyl. Et voila.
It'd be easy. Just make a hole in the desk and then you're done haha. May drill a Touch ID-sized hole right into my keyboard deck and put the board inside. The options of where you can put stuff are kinda limitless, but I liked the idea of a dedicated module.
@@snazzy You could put an internal usb hub in that keyboard as well ending up with a single usb cable to connect them both to the pc.
Was thinking the same exact thing haha
I imagine that this is a first step in a process that will result in me being able to buy a pre-assembled version of this (maybe in aluminum or walnut?), so as a Mac Studio owner who has graduated from Apple keyboards, thank you so much for making this happen.
Thanks so much for the Super Chat!
I know it’s an un-Apple like solution but for the longest time I’ve wanted Apple to build a usb webcam with the fantastic rear cameras from their iPhones with faceID. I’m sure a product like that will never exist (especially with continuity camera) but I can dream
That would take a leadership replacement at Apple.
@Jack Rainey no because you require your phone, a way to prop it up/stand. oh and of course a supported Mac and iPhone. not to mention you can't use your phone anymore while using the webcam.
It’s not just the camera. It’s the DSP that goes along with it. Just use your iPhone with Continuity.
@@DavidRavenMoon Pretty sure all webcams also require signal processing, the raw sensor data is always basically unusable
@@asronome older webcams were just cameras. My point was the iPhone has all the hardware.
I always wonder why people want high res web cams. What the heck do you use them for? If I’m using Zoom or whatever I couldn’t give a crap if the image is HD.
I just love how Linus is just starting at you as you Hanibal Lectering of the keyboard
Apple cares so much about environments
I love how 100% repairable their keyboards are
They are not 100% reparable, they have a glued bottom which is easy to break when getting removed
@@mralpha2518 Today's word of the day is sarcasm. The definition of sarcasm is "the use of irony to mock or convey contempt."
Thank you for this comment. And thank you Apple for making the world a better and cleaner place by selling keyboards like this one
haha even better, how fast they are dying just from a hint of moisture
@@mralpha2518 r/wooosh
Side note: That is literally the most middle finger in the air, anti-consumer, anti-repair design I have ever seen. THEY GLUED THE KEYBOARD TOGETHER.
This whole ordeal is kind of a perfect encapsulation of why I hate Apple as a company. This is an expensive piece of tech that is built to be entirely disposable. One thing goes wrong and you basically have to replace the entire thing.
I love how sustainably their keyboards are built! It's fantastic!!!!!!!!!
They really care about the environment!
@@snazzy LMAO.
@@snazzy lmao
Lol, nope
@@LukanRocks r/wooosh
For the uninitiated ones: this only works on M1/M2 Macs, it won't work with an Intel based Macs.
Nooooooo😢
Oh shoot. Thanks for letting me know. I have an Intel based Mac in my recording studio that is always in clamshell mode. This would have been amazing.
even intel macs with T2 chips? why?
@@jonathanodude6660 apparently so. Because... Apple. You'd think that they would make it backwards compatible with T2 chips, but not according to the compatibility tab on these new keyboards.
@@TheStudioFreq I know right... The moment I saw these keyboards I wanted to get one for myself to have the fingerprint right there on the keyboard, but unfortunately I have an Intel Mac.
3:00 gotta love the repair-friendly design and Apple’s commitment to reduce e-waste
We should show this to mother nature ...
As a MechE masters student, I highly recommend the Prusa Mini+ tbh. It requires super minimal maintenance compared to many other entry level printers, and just works the vast majority of the time.
Love my mini.
I would even go ahead and modify my already existing mechanical keyboard to incorporate this as a "module" by either modifying its casing or making an attachment in the same style. You can then splice the incoming usb connection to that keyboard for 5v and ground and then connect it to a lightning port/cable. Then you can have it work even more seemless!
This is the type of content I like most from y'all, Quinn. Thanks for making it.
If they sold this and it worked with Macs and iPads with Stage Manager so you do not have to physically bend over just to authenticate, I will buy 10 of them ASAP. Your move, Timmy.
What does Stage Manager have to do with anything?
@@AlejandroLZuvic Stage Manager runs on external monitor support for iPadOS 16 with M-series chips. Hence me saying Stage Manager. Should’ve specified but it is what it is.
I’ve wanted a “send auth requests to my iPhone” from my macs for a long time. That way your Mac could use FaceId (or touched) by proxy. Like it does with the watch!
If you have an iPad/iPhone with Touch ID, it should be able to authenticate in the mac
This is fantastic. Ive been telling anyone that will listen that I think Apple should just make Touch ID a damn separate accessory, but perhaps now I can just do it myself.
Awesome video Snazzy. I actually complained to an Apple employee that this product should exist quite a while ago! So it’s awesome to see you build a product I’ve been wanting for so long. This certainly seems like a great project and if we can get a few remixes or third party batteries to fit with the logic board, to make the product as small as possible, I really think I’d take the plunge and buy one of these keyboards to build this project. Great job and looks amazing for your first 3D project!
I was talking about needing this with a coworker today and I’m so glad to see it was a success! I’m going to have to keep an eye out for a cheap Touch ID keyboard and follow your lead. I love typing on a mechanical keyboard but I miss all my apple features. Thanks for doing this!
I’ve been waiting for a stand alone touchID button since the new keyboards came out! This. Is. AWESOME!!
I love it how every project you do begins like a silly informercial, this is genius for all the Mac Studio, mechanical keyboard owners
This is pretty awesome, I want to try something like this for my desktop at some point
And just a tip so that you don't get made fun of by engineers - fillet is fill-et in manufacturing not fill-ay like with food
Amazing work!
You taught fundementals of simple mechanical design with CAD and some concept of DFMA sooo well!
Imagine if you could put a touch id button on a mouse. That would be so seamless but it seems difficult to implement.
Great efforts and results.
The only problem is, nobody is talking about the the photo on the table! Is this Linus? Looool!
Would it be possible to add a leg for the button to increase rigidity when resting on the back plate?
i feel like people who make custom keybaords could find a way to integrate this into a fancy mechanical keyboard similar to how apple does it, it might be super difficult and unreasonable but I have seen people do some crazy things so idk
I mean, I feel like the better solution would be to retrofit mechanical switches to a Magic Keyboard logic board. Could be a fun project
Someone is doing just that checkout on LTT forums :) Can’t post any links here without being triggered as spam.
Great video! Now I have to buy a magic keyboard and try to integrate it into my mechanical one. Thanks for the idea.
Wow. Very impressive project. Straightforward, plug and play, (great job modeling!) and an excellent and extremely practical end-use.
would be awesome to integrate that into the old keyboard you already are using.
That's my plan, but that's hardly a replicable project. Hence this :D
there's been some fan mockups for hot swap mech keyboards with touch ID and the macbook's touchbar
Thanks for finding a way to do this. I've always wondered if it was possible. I just bought a Magic Keyboard with Touch ID off eBay. Can't wait to start this project.
He's not the first one to try it. But it is one of the cleanest builds I saw, that's for sure.
It's amazing that they don't sell a face id webcam by now. Wouldn't be that hard to make and it would be quite compact if they just used the same module as from the iPhone
What makes the iPhone camera great is not just camera, but the DSP and additional processing by the SOC.
@@ivanmalinovski7807 I'm sure M1/M2 could process it just fine
They can't get the module thin enough to fit in the MacBook screen yet. Will come in time I'm sure.
@@konicky but it definitely could be an external accessory for the iMac / Mac Mini/Studio/Pro.
I think they’re going to opt for encouraging further ecosystem immersion. Continuity camera just became a public feature, I’m sure they’re planning to lean into that. If you have an iPhone, you technically already have a faceID camera.
I thought of doing this EXACT project a while back and even looked at the ifixit teardown and the only reason I stopped was the battery. Wanted a small adapter. Now that I know it works without the battery will definitely try this as I have plenty of those compact keyboards!
3:32 I like how he used a Linus desk pad with an apple product Linus will be or is mad 😂😂
I'm time traveling from October 2023 - very nice project. I happen to love my Apple keyboards, but I've long wanted a standalone fingerprint sensor. It never occurred to me to canabalize a "perfectly good" keyboard - and your demo was very instructive. Thanks again, and I continue to subscribe!
You should commercialize this - I would totally buy one
yeah me too!
For small stuff like the thing you plastic welded you can always just thread your screws into the plastic. You could even just make the posts, drill a small hole, then use a screw.
I wonder if those boards can be trimmed down at all to make them smaller?
Without the board schematic you'd have to go through a lot of 'revisions' 😂
I have had the same Magic Keyboard for 8 years, never had issues with it. Got it with my 2015 iMac. I love the thing! It hurts to see you rip one to bits, but neat idea!
I'd love to see this integrated into a mechanical keyboard.
I was imagining exactly the same thing. The space is there in many cases but the top case would need to be custom made.
@@AlejandroLZuvic Some mechanical keyboards like the Keychron Q1 and many others have these Knobs for changing the audio volume. The sensor could go at that place, so the layout would be identical to Apple's Keyboards.
I’m working on it, but progress has been slow
@@_sabot yes, that'd work.
Yes, I hope also that this can be standardize so this can be opensourced.
meaning the keyboard send the data, and the computer decide to unlock or not, but this seems to be very far in the future (and not using a mac)
If someone sold these i'd buy one in a heartbeat!
I’d love to see apple release a standalone Touch ID button for those who have a T2 or Apple Silicon Mac but don’t want to use an Apple Keyboard, I fear for the price though…
Id buy one, I really dont want to get a magic keyboard just for touch ID. I like my mechanical keyboards
For items that are relatively flat that you need precise measurements use a regular paper scanner and take the scan into your 3d modeling software and scale it. As long as you can get it to scan it is by far the best method of getting dimensions of things like this.
Dude. You figured out something I've been wanting for a long time. Thank you! Glad you found Shapr3d useful too - I use it to design HiFi speakers for building with my CNC and it does an excellent job there as well.
i love that Quinn has the Linus deskpad, best purchase
I didn't know he had Linus's image printed on his table
This is everything I want in a standalone TouchID device. Also, Analog is the shit. Love those task cards. 👀
I think adding those guys to a custom mechanical keyboard shouldn’t be too hard. Added bonus would be the use of USB C if it’s done right. You’ve inspired me. I’d build one and post when it gets done if I could find a sponsor. Parts are a bit pricey for me at the moment
Daaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnggggggggggggg I REALLLYYYYY NEED THAT AS WELL WISH THIS CAN BE COMMERCIALIZE
Next step is to make a new chassis for your main keyboard to house this
I'm certified in various industrial level 3D design programs, and the program which you used to design your case was surprisingly similar to "the real deal", it just needs the ability to handle parts with thousands of edits, and a built in simulation suite.
Cool! Thanks for sharing and watching. 😊
This is awesome! I’ve thought about the possibility of this existing for a while, hoping Apple would make it themselves (knowing the 0% odds of that happening). Nice work!
That old school keyboard has to have plenty of room for all those electronics in it. That would have been a nice way to go. Might even be able to do a mod to get power from the old port or convert the old keyboard to using USB-C.
It’s a Zinc case, and I doubt you’d wanna drill through it.
@@michaelbaim5060 pretty that’s a model M keyboard from the 80s
Great vid :) I’m a mechanical design engineer who uses 3D modeling programs all day everyday, and the word “fillet”, when used in an engineering CAD context, actually sounds like “FILL-it”. Bugs the crap outta me, honestly, but ‘tis the English language!
Still don't understand why Apple hasn't had the option for Face ID in their monitors or iMacs.
To be honest, you inspire me to be focused more on technology and knowledge. Thanks for the content.
Wow, thanks!
Ive said this for years. They should integrate the fingerprint scannera on the mouse. Windows hello should work well too
The mouse? That has the same problem as the keyboard: not everybody likes Apple peripherals.
@@AlejandroLZuvic Not just apple. I mean ALL mice even on Windows (I don't even use Mac)
The keyboard glue disassembly is already exhausting
Why can’t he be like a normal person and use the Magic Keyboard?
Mechanical keyboards are 100% better, duh.
Thanks for clearing the path to safely getting at them sensor. I got a used keyboard from ebay and successfully removed the touch id. Now I want to attach it to the side of my clicky mechanical keyboard)
Do people still comment “first”?
Yes they do shut up
I did it once on my own reddit post, not so long ago, and got hated 🤦🏾♂️
What's a 10 keyless keyboard 14:23 ? Why am I confused with the model names for the what keyboard to buy. Epic mod though. I'd seen this years ago and came back as now I have a monitor for my MBP because of my aging eyes. haha.
@0:45 Lool!!😂 That needs to be a GIF 😊
I liked the desk mate a lot ! at least someone was watching u live except ur team
Loving my Bambu Labs P1P, previously had a Creality CR-10 (original), but ended up selling it to a friend
You are a master in the being original art, now more consistently than ever
This is the kind of thing @UnnecessaryInventions would do. I love it!!!
Where do you buy your red flannel shirts ? Looks like it might fit me. I wear a 3xl. It's that time of year here at night where it was 39F last night.
5:33 you just gave me 5 mini heart attacks
Cool project. I find the Magic Keyboard is great how it is. Using them for almost 10 years, before it had Touch ID, and never once felt it needed an improvement. Apple doesn’t get everything right but this accessory they did.
Super cool video. As a CAD guy it’s not pronounced fillet like a fish but fill-it.
What’s the name of the keyboard you’re using? It looks awesome
I use an old Apple Extended II ADP keyboard (via an ADP->USB adapter) and I'm thinking I could remove one of the ADB connectors and mount a touch ID key in it's place. The hole for the ADP socket seems to be exactly the right size (~1cm). I'm not sure I want to glue it on though as I don't want to make a permanent modification to the keyboard but I'm thinking that's the only way to do it. 🤔
When he mentions, at 12:00 minutes in, he used a digital caliper to measure the distance between mounting holes in the board wouldn't it have been possible, and eaiser, to 3-D scan the board with his iPhone, import that into his modelling app/program then get the exact distance for the 3-D render of the Touch ID casing? Admittedly, I'm not, nor have I ever been, an iPhone owner/user but assumed that capability is possible with LiDAR in the phone's camera setup.
Yup it would’ve been possible.
I guess he either forgot about it or wanted to show you how easy it is using the app and that basically everyone can make one
Would the quality of the lidar scan be enough though? I feel like all the examples I've seen as well as photogrammetry have still yielded not very high fidelity models that you could reliably get a 1mm accurate scan to reference. I've tried both ways but the iPad pro lidar scanner wasn't as good as just using calipers and rulers to measure.
"Use the button on your mouse to click to today's sponsor"
Ha! But I'm using a trackpad. A Force Touch trackpad without physical buttons. Checkmate.
I was literally googling a way to do this last week. Perfect timing!😊
This could probably be updated to use a USB c connector, and could maybe be integrated into a custom mechanical keyboard so that it doesn’t seem so bulky
could you use a Touch ID sensor from an iPhone? if you have one laying around from a previous upgrade, you could harvest the insides. (I'm speaking before completing the video)
Woah which keyboard do you have on your current setup. i think I'm in love!
Wondering the same thing. Retro!
damn, 3d modeling on an ipad with apple pencil. ok, i'm sold. that looks so intuitive
How much of actual pcb you actually need? Could there be slimmed down version? That could be interesting.
I would love it if you do a full video about Nreal glasses in the add.
Some of these little modules could be incorporated into the design of a mechanical keyboard to give them touch id functionality! Fantastic video, really sets yourself apart here from other tech TH-camrs
Have you thought using a resin 3D printer for a smoother texture?
"revisions and improvements" that one got me
@SnazzyLabs What is the voltage of the battery going into the keyboard? I'm wondering if I can just power it off my existing keyboard battery.
The linus deskpad make me fall out my chair! LOL
I'm very new to macs, just got one at work last month actually, but used iphones for years. I like touch id but i also liked it on my old iphones. But my iphones hasn't had it for years. Why don't they offer the face id option? If you have apple monitors with camera?
You would thing that, with how dongle happy Apple is, that they would have an individual Touch ID sensor dongle available for purchase. Seems like an easy product for Apple to make money on.
lol so just tried this with the TKL variant and tried to shove the whole touch ID inside of a Keycron keyboard. I ended up breaking my touch ID (and battery) so now I have a wired magic keyboard lmao.
**A word of advice if you're using the TKL version:
- When you remove the first back layer, be careful to remove ONLY the white part. The black part has the battery attached to it and WILL snap the ribbon cable (and any chance you had of getting wireless to work.
- The TouchID shown in this video is nice and neat because it's right next to the logic board, but that's because it's the full sized. The TKL layout has an extension cable that runs through half of the case and is VERY delicate. I suggest you just keep the entire connection from the TouchID to the board in tact if you can. I opened and closed the connection between the TouchID and the extension ribbon too many times and it broke on me meaning no fingerprint censor.
-Bonus: If you hook up the touchID connection to the logic board in the opposite direction, you'll get a surprisingly hot finger warmer.
@6:05 "and in theory" sets off my phone's 'hey siri' 100% of the time.
integrating this to the table that the macbook or imac resides in is nice to see
a little mini tower on the top of your rev 1 for the keypress backer would have given you good back pressure point. with it flat it was deforming too much.
dude I've fantasized about this - good job!
Wonder if FIDO key with finger print or just FIDO key would work in similar way, just a thought
Wow! What a practical solution. Well done.
Neat idea. When I upgrade my desktop Mac I might think about doing this. However if you're only using the sensor and the logic board why not just build it into your keyboard. Heck if it's got the room for it you could probably keep the batteries.
Finally a snazzy video , loved the implementation and thought of such a small but effective thing
Apple shd take cues from you
You know whatll be your next challenge and really awesome!… try extending the cable from the logic board to the touch id using micro enamelled wire . That way you can hide the logic board and only have the touch if visible… thatll be amazing and really good looking! You may require some micro-soldering techniques buy hey, a challenge is supposed to be challenging!!!! Please try !!!!
You could also CNC the enclosure from some nice wood, it would look much more classy and better fit your desk style.
This was awesome Quinn
Thanks!
if we had the schematics for the 10-key logicboard we could see if maybe not the whole board is needed. If the traces are routed nicely one could even build a homebutton board not much bigger than the processor that runs the show.
This is awesome! Personally I would replace the Lightning port with USB C if possible.