Why would they take it down? You speak of conspiracy theories as if anyone who believes any of them is crazy. This exactly the kind of content they love 😂. Now if you did a video on all the conspiracy theories that turned out to be 100% true.... Then they'd censor you.
Having the government chase a conspiracy theorist for getting a conspiracy right, but having the conspiracy theorist not know which conspiracy he got right is such a genius setup for a story that no matter what turn the story takes, it will not be a satisfying answer. I would’ve kept the exact conspiracy Mel Gibson got right as a secret the entire movie and have him being an MK ultra victim be something totally separate from that.
I legit had a bus driver who would rant to me nonstop about conspiracy theories. This went on for weeks until he mysteriously disappeared. Part of me wants to believe The Man got him but it's far more likely he was arrested again for not paying his child support (which was part of his many conspiracies)
@@my9thaccount140you joke but this comment section is covered with idiots trying to imply that getting banned from TH-cam for being antisemitic or arrested for breaking the law is proof of (dumb pet conspiracy that makes them feel smart)
Fun story: my uncle is friends with the family who rented out their apartment in New York for this film. Never thought about it again until this video.
Honestly though, I have to give this movie points for the fact that the Secret-Super-Agent lost with faulty programming and no memory, isn't portrayed as some cold, cool-headed Badass like Jason Bourne... but is instead a nervous wreck, fighting with all kinds of mental illnesses and character ticks, unable to form meaningful connections, while still following some drilled in routines that would seem like an absolute schizophrenic nightmare to an outside observer
Which is probably what somebody who underwent that sort of thing would realistically be like. Something that makes everything in the movie way funnier.
@@mrscruffles801 Exactly, so many FBI honeypots and then pushing others to commit crimes. Like the recent Whitmer kidnapping plot, total entrapment and they deny all involvement
I genuinely wonder if there’s been one relationship that started on that premise. A modern day lady and the tramp between a federal agent and a half psychotic dollar general employee.
Someone should actually try a story like that. A fed is posing as this mentally ill loners gf and instigating him into doing a Mass shooting, but the loner isn't insane enough to actually kill people and the fed is starting to fall in love with him. Cue hijinks and dark jokes.
Did you watched "Everything Everywhere All at Once"? Considering it was box office "failure" probably not but this movie is "insane movie" and in the same time actually good.
I think I’m paraphrasing the movie but when he’s getting taken in by the bad guys and he says something like “wait that means I was right! Wait, which one was I right about?” Which is just brilliant
This is an example of a movie with a great premise but poor execution. Some decent acting and a better script, this movie actually could’ve been pretty great
I agree, having him *actually* be the guy who killed her dad under brainwashing - with the later obsession with her being a result of unconscious guilt - is much better than "he was sent to do it but The Power Of Love At First Sight broke his programming".
I saw this movie when it came out in theaters. I think I also rented it at blockbuster a few years later when I was in high school. I legit thought he did kill her dad until I watched this video. I’m sure I understood that plot point at the time but for some reason when it got moved to permanent storage in my brain it was coded as him killing her dad and her being ok with it in the end because he was brainwashed. Wild.
@@agonzalez7095 you can disagree with the content, historical accuracy, etc of those films. But from a filmmaking standpoint they're very well-made films.
This just made me think of a prequel fallout game where you play an on-the-run conspiracy theorist running from the Enclave after finding out about FEV or the Vault Experiments or the Oil Rig etc. It'd be pretty cool.
You should really talk about a Christmas movie called Fatman where Mel Gibson plays Santa and a Santa obsessed hitman is hired by an spoiler Elementary school student to take him out, also the US military wants to turn Santa’s Workshop into a weapons manufacturing plant because of how effective the elf’s are with making toys…for some plot reason
This reminded me of that one movie where Bruce Willis has to protect an autistic child from the government because the kid accidentally decoded a super secret code that the government uses for secret stuff and that for some reason they published as a puzzle in a kids magazine as a joke because they thought no one would ever crack it and now they want to kill the child before someone finds out he knows how to decode this super secret code.
Why would they want to kill the kid and not put him in a safehouse and train him to become a codebreaker FOR THEM? I'm sure there's some story somewhere where a savant is frequently given "puzzles" that are really top secret codes. Maybe I'm thinking of Leonard of Quirm in Discworld.
@@johnnye87 i don't know, i saw this movie when i was around twelve, all i remember is the savant autistic child being chased by the FBI because he broke a code and Bruce Willis had to protect him.
The way you described the love dynamic in this film made it sound eerily.. I don’t know what word to use other than abusive. Like, someone constantly doing creepy shit over and over again, enough to make anyone want to leave, but still doing the occasional good thing which delays that inevitability.
yeah. it reminds me of the video from Pop Culture Detective "stalking for love" or "predatory romance in Harrison ford movies" that is a criticism on this exact topic. Those characters treat woman bad but it's framed as a good even "sexy". there are others videos from the same channel talking more on weird tropes that Hollywood treat as "romantic" but actually is abusive or straight up crime. highly recommend watch (sorry if bad english)
Man, the first half of this movie is *so good*. All the setup stuff was fantastic, Gibson brilliantly balances charismatic and creepily unhinged, Stewart is perfect, Roberts elevates what could have been a super generic character, and Richard Donner put it all together as professionally as ever. And then the second half very slowly goes off the rails, as it fails to pay anything off effectively. It's not really until the last 15 minutes or so that it falls apart (and even then, Donner delivers some good thriller moments), but man, it's just such a shame that they didn't have the guts to stick with the way more interesting movie that they're setting up.
@@kinsmart7294 That would be the best! But I think they could even have gotten away with revealing it (after all, a former MKUltra boss cleaning up loose ends is honestly a cool answer) if they hadn't had Mel be right about *every* wacko theory and had found a way to keep a degree of mystery and power there even with the answers* hadn't forced that yikes romance and just generally found a stronger last 20 minutes. * After all, we know, for example, broadly speaking what Parallax was up to in The Parallax View, but never why or what their ultimate goals are or if they're really powerful and connected or just inconspicuous. But we still get the gist of what they're doing.
You want a hollywood movie to tell you that hollywood, NASA, tehinterwebz/facebook/onlypornfans etc = run 100% by the deep state? Ewen Cameron mk ultra stuff and NBC weapons' research is probably the best we'll ever get from mainstream media. 🙊🙉
Conspiracy Theory had a great premise to be a fun movie. Sadly, the final product is lacking all around. Mel is doing his shtick but his character feels underdeveloped, and Julia Roberts' character more so. The whole conspiracy plot is lame as hell and Richard Donner's direction is barely noticeable. Agree that Carter Burwell's score is the best tho.
Not only that but the whole relationship dynamic between Julia roberts and Mel Gibson is so problematic that it weighs down the viewing experience for most people
"This man is a 4chan poster that wound up as the main character of a political thriller." This simple sentence just creates the most ridiculous plot for a Jason Bourne-esque film directed by Paul Greengrass and starring Matt Damon as the 4Chan poster.
Alice 'falling' for him is easily explained: she felt like shit for believing the villain, and thinking he was about to die, didn't want to just be like "You don't love me, you're a stalker you jackass." So she just gave him what he wanted to hear.
I'd like to thank pointless hub for introducing me to that theme. Now I can have an appropriate sound track as I rant about how alternate History channels are a Psy op to prepare us for time travel shananegens.
It’d be really funny if in the future time travel was invented entirely for the purpose of banishing people back in time. Like in the future you post some crime stats, feds immediately kidnap you and instead of reconditioning you, they send you back to the 1800s with enough resources to start a cotton plantation and tell you to go nuts.
The idea of NASA having all of this power and being the villian might be the funniest unexplored plot I have ever heard of. It sounds like it was made by someone who doesnt understand science so obviously they fear it
That’s the thing with NASA conspiracies that make them sort of stupid. NASA is full of autists who find stuff like finding moon rocks and crashing drones into asteroids fascinating. You know who doesn’t? The American government. There’s nothing tangible to be gained just scientific data. You think if NASA was that powerful they’d go and grovel for more funding from the government? Of course not
What's scarier than these movies is real life though. Because in real life we see people who "understand science", like you, do horrible, immoral stuff at the behest of politicians, be it building the atomic bomb and watch a thousand powdered, or finding newer ways to torture Jews in concentration chambers, or maybe even dismember Chinese people at Japanese facilities to see how long they live. But obviously that dude in the gas chamber doesn't understand science, right?
From the goofy music heard in the film clips and the absurd premise and plot elements, I thought this movie was supposed to be a dark comedy or conspiracy thriller parody. According to Letterboxed, however, Conspiracy Theory (1997) is a thriller action mystery and drama.
It was during this movie I realized Mel Gibson is a serious masochist... Rewatch Braveheart/ Apocolyto/ Passion of the Christ... Even during the Lethal Weapon movies... He's insane and I love him
I specifically remember the scene where Patrick Stewart kidnaps and tortures Mel Gibson. I know it was probably supposed to be suspenseful but it was so batshit insane I was laughing my ass off the whole time.
I love the fact that the world depicted in this film is one where these shadowy groups are smart enough to pull off these incredible feats like mine control, stealthy black helicopters, and earthquake guns, but cook up these ridiculously impractical plans. Like, how is an earthquake the weapon of choice for a political assassination? This is like someone took those Mitchell and Webb sketches and played the concepts perfectly straight.
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My favorite part of all your videos on this channel is the editing. Its so damn chaotic. "Hold on to those eggs dear" 2 seconds later. "Auuuu!" As the old couple in 2012 plow into a giant chunk of rock 🤣
I saw this movie when I was a kid, when it was still fairly new and I always remembered it as being really intense, cool and a bit scary at times (I was like 10 at the time). I recently gave it a second watch, I was a bit underwhelmed but it's still really entertaining, but a lot sillier than I remember. Like that scene with the black helicopters; How can nobody else see them!? ''Silent mode'' or not, they are hovering about 20 meters over the streets of New York.
"New Yorkers! You fucking people think you are so great by playing it cool and jaded all the time! There is a silent running helicopter deploying commandos and I want you all to react to it!"
Typical Hollywood MO: "Hey, here's an absolutely outrageous idea for a comedy, with the perfect cast to boot. Let's make it a dead serious action thriller instead."
I loved the first twenty minutes of the movie, when I thought this was gonna be a dark comedy. Imagine my chagrin when I realized the movie was expecting the viewer to take it seriously.
I took it as a comedy, it's just I was about half way through it before I realized it wasn't being funny on purpose. Didn't hinder my enjoyment of it though.
@@troodon1096 It did mine. Seeing Mel groan and whimper like he had a stomach cramp, while exposition-dumping mushy melodrama stops being funny after ten seconds, and it feels like that was half the movie.
I remember watching this movie when I was a kid cause the part in the wheelchair and the cartoons and Mel screaming all the time was very funny to me. For some reason I confused it with "Ramson", another crazy old Mel Gibson movie. And that soundtrack, it is so rare and it doesnt blened in the scenes either, but it's very characteristic
"Conspiracy theorists" used to be the butt of media jokes made out to be loony and funny, nowadays they're presented as threats. This movie to me seems to don the attitude of that "make fun of them" era, while presenting a real warning.
They're a threat because conspiracy theories are only theories for like 6 months these days and that's dangerous to the elites. Can't have your plots exposed constantly. From "the vaccines don't prevent catching, they just help you fight covid" being a conspiracy originally, to "aid money for Ukraine is being laundered through crypto back to the US", to "Russia isn't actually that strong and we hype them up to have a convenient bogeyman", it all turned out to actually be true. That and countless more "conspiracy theories" that only "dangerous" insert_buzzwords could possibly believe, all are entirely true.
Some conspiracy theorists do say that these joke conspiracy types are meant to be a muddying the waters effect, so that when a legit conspiracy comes around no one will believe it.
The problem with “Conspiracy Theories” is that some of them turn out to be true. And the worst part is that the conspiracy theory about the CIA creating the term to discredit Conspiracy theorists is also true.
5:36 Am I the only one who wishes that we got to see that Deadliest Warrior clip again in this moment? You know the one I’m talking about. It would’ve fit so well!
I agree with your theory that the entire movie is in his head. We’re just shown the world he always thinks he’s living in. One where he thinks the deep state will come full force after some random nobody who’s never taken seriously, where women despite all his many flaws are attracted to him, and most importantly, a world where he’s somebody important. He’s not just some lunatic, he’s a perfectly normal guy who was just MADE to seem crazy by the deep state making him a professional killer. I think the movie if it explored that route had a lot of potential
I feel like there's an entire genre of Conspiracy movies that mostly exist on dropping a plot bomb that goes "Something Something We execute people on our Blood Diamond pile because (Insert something about about primal Instinct)Something Something" And then mostly go on hoping that plot bomb will coast you through the movie.
I want this movie to be remade, but the Riddler from "The Batman" playing Mel Gibson's role, & Julia Robert's character just pretends to believe/love him until she gets the cops to take him away at the end.
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I discovered your channel with your Sharknado episode. Never I thought watching Alternate History Hub's videos on Red Alert would make me want more videos on dumb action films.
I luv that you talked about this movie. These are the kind of movies I remember from my childhood in the 90s. Just bonkers when you actually think about it movies that not for the reasons you think wouldn't get made these days.
Right like, did you ever see that movie where Ed Harris has a son and this kid and His friends hire a prostitute yo see her boobs and then she ends up marrying His dad and it's presentes like a very romantic films.... It's like what, what Is that?
Only in SOME aspects of the movie. Like the movies portrayal of a toxic romantic relationship in a positive light and how it makes the protagonist a mentally ill man being weird and creepy around the love interest and she’s unrealistically fine with it
Please don't take my video down TH-cam this is for the funny
Dark of the moon?
Susan Wojcicki laughs at your cries for mercy
But they do be theorizing
BUT THAT’s JUST A THEORY.
A GAME THEORY
Why would they take it down?
You speak of conspiracy theories as if anyone who believes any of them is crazy.
This exactly the kind of content they love 😂.
Now if you did a video on all the conspiracy theories that turned out to be 100% true....
Then they'd censor you.
Eww, this movie is so gross
It vindicates all the incels
Having the government chase a conspiracy theorist for getting a conspiracy right, but having the conspiracy theorist not know which conspiracy he got right is such a genius setup for a story that no matter what turn the story takes, it will not be a satisfying answer. I would’ve kept the exact conspiracy Mel Gibson got right as a secret the entire movie and have him being an MK ultra victim be something totally separate from that.
Alternatively they could set it up like Burn After Reading. Where the agents are just as confused as to what he figured out.
Ye is right
At the end it turns out that he didnt get it right the deepstate just thought he did
@@Jimbo55151 Loved that movie... "We all learned something from this." "What did we learn?" "Hell if I know."
Hm.
I legit had a bus driver who would rant to me nonstop about conspiracy theories. This went on for weeks until he mysteriously disappeared. Part of me wants to believe The Man got him but it's far more likely he was arrested again for not paying his child support (which was part of his many conspiracies)
The perfect cover for getting rid of a dangerous individual. Truly diabolical those G Men, truly diabolical.
@@my9thaccount140you joke but this comment section is covered with idiots trying to imply that getting banned from TH-cam for being antisemitic or arrested for breaking the law is proof of (dumb pet conspiracy that makes them feel smart)
@@my9thaccount140
*"No! That's not my wife! That's not my kid! I don't know you!"*
*"Please honey, we love you."*
*"I want my dad back."*
@@vit968"STAY BACK LIZARDS! I SEE YOU BLINKING VERTICALLY!"
The best part about this movie for Mel Gibson is that he didn't even have to act, he was just himself for the entire movie
The entire movie is actually just Gibson getting bowfingered
He did have to act - took him years of hard work and training to be able to turn down his nonsense enough to be in this film.
The role he was born to play.
Eh, not really, there's very little racism in Jerry's variant of crazy conspiracy. There was some effort for Gibson.
spittin facts
Fun story: my uncle is friends with the family who rented out their apartment in New York for this film. Never thought about it again until this video.
Damn that sucks that their apartment got blowed up by the deep state my condolences
I bet they regretted that decision after the feds had blown up the place.
I was the 666th person to like your comment
@@BrokenCurtain is bad
Honestly though, I have to give this movie points for the fact that the Secret-Super-Agent lost with faulty programming and no memory, isn't portrayed as some cold, cool-headed Badass like Jason Bourne... but is instead a nervous wreck, fighting with all kinds of mental illnesses and character ticks, unable to form meaningful connections, while still following some drilled in routines that would seem like an absolute schizophrenic nightmare to an outside observer
The closetest other character I can think of is John Malkovich's in R.E.D.
Which is probably what somebody who underwent that sort of thing would realistically be like. Something that makes everything in the movie way funnier.
@@my9thaccount140funny🙂
Sounds like something The Venture brothers would write.
You should also watch American ultra if you haven't
This movie adheres to the most damned fantasy of all. The feds actually finding someone dangerous who seemed to be on their radar.
Usually they just find people who are dangerous and talk them into acting out
They always find them, usually they "engourage" them to act out in flashy and horrifying but ineffectual ways.
@@mrscruffles801 Exactly, so many FBI honeypots and then pushing others to commit crimes. Like the recent Whitmer kidnapping plot, total entrapment and they deny all involvement
"hey everone i found one! the government actually found someone we were looking for!"
@@herohalv4543 EPA EPA
Half convinced this movie is just a film crew, Julia Roberts, and Patrick Stewart just following Mel Gibson around and recording him on his day to day
That would be an interesting improv game that’s for certain
So literally the plot of Bowfinger.
Patrick stewit was not ready for his nose to be bittin
This a beautiful Romeo and Juliet romance: A 4chan Schizoposter and a Fed
I genuinely wonder if there’s been one relationship that started on that premise. A modern day lady and the tramp between a federal agent and a half psychotic dollar general employee.
Someone should actually try a story like that. A fed is posing as this mentally ill loners gf and instigating him into doing a Mass shooting, but the loner isn't insane enough to actually kill people and the fed is starting to fall in love with him. Cue hijinks and dark jokes.
Beautiful 😂
Tale as old as time.
there is no more pure and beautiful love then this.
I wish Hollywood had the balls to make more insane movies like this now. The 90s was a wacky time indeed.
@@QVUTDN
“Criticized,” of course
I feel like Free Guy might be the closest thing we have to that...
Lemme guess, found him through the Transformers videos?
Did you watched "Everything Everywhere All at Once"?
Considering it was box office "failure" probably not but this movie is "insane movie" and in the same time actually good.
@@nieznajomy4398 don't forget RRR...the director of that film said his favourite director was Mel Gibson
This probably would be one of the few films to actually benefit from the “main character is actually hallucinating the plot” trope
Not all conspiracies are false
@@GG_1318 *Most conspiracies are false.
Also for “some reason” become rather anti-Semitic
@@longlivethesheet4561 A massive amount are real and have nothing do with semites
@@GG_1318 Conspiracy #356: "Trees are alive and scream constantly."
@@lego007guym8 You’re telling me that most people don’t hear the trees screaming?
I think I’m paraphrasing the movie but when he’s getting taken in by the bad guys and he says something like “wait that means I was right! Wait, which one was I right about?” Which is just brilliant
This is an example of a movie with a great premise but poor execution. Some decent acting and a better script, this movie actually could’ve been pretty great
I agree, having him *actually* be the guy who killed her dad under brainwashing - with the later obsession with her being a result of unconscious guilt - is much better than "he was sent to do it but The Power Of Love At First Sight broke his programming".
I saw this movie when it came out in theaters. I think I also rented it at blockbuster a few years later when I was in high school. I legit thought he did kill her dad until I watched this video. I’m sure I understood that plot point at the time but for some reason when it got moved to permanent storage in my brain it was coded as him killing her dad and her being ok with it in the end because he was brainwashed. Wild.
See if Mel Gibson also directed this film, it'd be a 10/10 masterpiece. Because for whatever reason, Mel is a really good director.
Because Passion of Christ happened
apocalypto and Passion of Christ would like to disagree.
@@agonzalez7095 you can disagree with the content, historical accuracy, etc of those films. But from a filmmaking standpoint they're very well-made films.
@@SeruraRenge11 true
@@SeruraRenge11 didn't he make hacksaw ridge
I literally saw this film this week. Conspiracy Theory, Jacob's Ladder and Signs are the holy trinity of conspiracy thrillers
Watch The Manchurian Candidate
The original, not the remake.
I'd add They Live and the first MIB
This just made me think of a prequel fallout game where you play an on-the-run conspiracy theorist running from the Enclave after finding out about FEV or the Vault Experiments or the Oil Rig etc. It'd be pretty cool.
How is Jacob's Ladder a conspiracy movie?
@@lego007guym8 you should check out more media
You should really talk about a Christmas movie called Fatman where Mel Gibson plays Santa and a Santa obsessed hitman is hired by an spoiler Elementary school student to take him out, also the US military wants to turn Santa’s Workshop into a weapons manufacturing plant because of how effective the elf’s are with making toys…for some plot reason
Mel Gibson is a genius
Fatman ranks up there with Die Hard as a must see X-mass movie.
Oh... So that movie's real...
I thought I hallucinated it someday...
Violent Night is another chef kiss of a Christmas movie.
holy ..... that movie actually exists
This reminded me of that one movie where Bruce Willis has to protect an autistic child from the government because the kid accidentally decoded a super secret code that the government uses for secret stuff and that for some reason they published as a puzzle in a kids magazine as a joke because they thought no one would ever crack it and now they want to kill the child before someone finds out he knows how to decode this super secret code.
Mercury Rising
Why does the deep state always leave oblivious clues to follow
Why would they want to kill the kid and not put him in a safehouse and train him to become a codebreaker FOR THEM?
I'm sure there's some story somewhere where a savant is frequently given "puzzles" that are really top secret codes. Maybe I'm thinking of Leonard of Quirm in Discworld.
@@johnnye87 i don't know, i saw this movie when i was around twelve, all i remember is the savant autistic child being chased by the FBI because he broke a code and Bruce Willis had to protect him.
@@jesushernanpizarrogonzalez7297ngl though, solid action flick, totally forgot I watched it lmao
The way you described the love dynamic in this film made it sound eerily.. I don’t know what word to use other than abusive.
Like, someone constantly doing creepy shit over and over again, enough to make anyone want to leave, but still doing the occasional good thing which delays that inevitability.
Why do you have the name of a guy who is a known child toucher.
Alright Dr Bright.
Protagonist is against the deep state acting like the deep state
yeah. it reminds me of the video from Pop Culture Detective "stalking for love" or "predatory romance in Harrison ford movies" that is a criticism on this exact topic. Those characters treat woman bad but it's framed as a good even "sexy".
there are others videos from the same channel talking more on weird tropes that Hollywood treat as "romantic" but actually is abusive or straight up crime.
highly recommend watch
(sorry if bad english)
@@akunekochan Well Hollywood is pretty well-known for abuse in real life isn't it?
If the CIA isn't real who keeps pissing in my bed when I'm asleep?
This is a wildly underrated comment.
Probably that mongrel dog of the empire Caius Cosades. It’s how he honors the sixth house and the tribe unmourned.
IT WAS ME, BARRY!
@@a22024No wonder his suit is yellow
me and your sister
Man, the first half of this movie is *so good*. All the setup stuff was fantastic, Gibson brilliantly balances charismatic and creepily unhinged, Stewart is perfect, Roberts elevates what could have been a super generic character, and Richard Donner put it all together as professionally as ever.
And then the second half very slowly goes off the rails, as it fails to pay anything off effectively. It's not really until the last 15 minutes or so that it falls apart (and even then, Donner delivers some good thriller moments), but man, it's just such a shame that they didn't have the guts to stick with the way more interesting movie that they're setting up.
Yeah, i feel that it would be best if the enemy was never revealed and only hinted at. Let paranoia run rampant.
@@kinsmart7294 That would be the best! But I think they could even have gotten away with revealing it (after all, a former MKUltra boss cleaning up loose ends is honestly a cool answer) if they hadn't had Mel be right about *every* wacko theory and had found a way to keep a degree of mystery and power there even with the answers* hadn't forced that yikes romance and just generally found a stronger last 20 minutes.
* After all, we know, for example, broadly speaking what Parallax was up to in The Parallax View, but never why or what their ultimate goals are or if they're really powerful and connected or just inconspicuous. But we still get the gist of what they're doing.
You want a hollywood movie to tell you that hollywood, NASA, tehinterwebz/facebook/onlypornfans etc = run 100% by the deep state?
Ewen Cameron mk ultra stuff and NBC weapons' research is probably the best we'll ever get from mainstream media.
🙊🙉
The sequence where he escapes while strapped into the wheelchair is iconic
It's one of the few scenes I remembered despite watching it long ago and almost forgetting about it.
Conspiracy Theory had a great premise to be a fun movie. Sadly, the final product is lacking all around. Mel is doing his shtick but his character feels underdeveloped, and Julia Roberts' character more so. The whole conspiracy plot is lame as hell and Richard Donner's direction is barely noticeable. Agree that Carter Burwell's score is the best tho.
Julia Roberts should've been cut entirely, and replaced with someone with a role to fill besides generic love interest
Not only that but the whole relationship dynamic between Julia roberts and Mel Gibson is so problematic that it weighs down the viewing experience for most people
What Pointless actually said: "Forces are at work in the shadows"
What I though he said, for some odd reason: "Horses are at work in the shadows"
Now _that's_ a conspiracy!
I can't get enough of PointlessHub style editing
"This man is a 4chan poster that wound up as the main character of a political thriller."
This simple sentence just creates the most ridiculous plot for a Jason Bourne-esque film directed by Paul Greengrass and starring Matt Damon as the 4Chan poster.
Alice 'falling' for him is easily explained: she felt like shit for believing the villain, and thinking he was about to die, didn't want to just be like "You don't love me, you're a stalker you jackass."
So she just gave him what he wanted to hear.
That would've been great if it the movie gave you a tidbit that this is the case
I just take as a partially sympathetic/caretaker love. There are real world equivalent relationships.
@@a22024 Someone's gotta stop this guy from going full maniac.
@@peppermillers8361what's your pfp from?
@@a22024 maybe.
_It’s not paranoia when they actually are out to get you._
7.3 on the Richter scale in southern turkey? Is uh... Is NASA still at it?
We cannot deny or approve
God I REMEMBER this shit. It was hilarious as a kid and I completely forgot it existed.
Same, although the scene with Gibson strapped to his chair with his eyes open wide with duck tape is a very memorable moment for me unironically.
I'm going to tell my kids this was Stanley Kubrick's eyes wide shut
Close enough.
I just watched that last night I can’t believe we in a world like this … something crazy gotta happen for it to stop
I can't deal with the idea of Patrick Stewart being a villain in anything. He's too nice!
he plays the main villain in this horror film called green room where he's a murderous neo Nazi lol
@@muggzo Damn now I wanna see how he does that.
I'd like to thank pointless hub for introducing me to that theme. Now I can have an appropriate sound track as I rant about how alternate History channels are a Psy op to prepare us for time travel shananegens.
I hope. Get me outta here.
It’d be really funny if in the future time travel was invented entirely for the purpose of banishing people back in time. Like in the future you post some crime stats, feds immediately kidnap you and instead of reconditioning you, they send you back to the 1800s with enough resources to start a cotton plantation and tell you to go nuts.
The idea of NASA having all of this power and being the villian might be the funniest unexplored plot I have ever heard of. It sounds like it was made by someone who doesnt understand science so obviously they fear it
NASA wishes they were this powerful.
That’s the thing with NASA conspiracies that make them sort of stupid. NASA is full of autists who find stuff like finding moon rocks and crashing drones into asteroids fascinating. You know who doesn’t? The American government. There’s nothing tangible to be gained just scientific data. You think if NASA was that powerful they’d go and grovel for more funding from the government? Of course not
What's scarier than these movies is real life though. Because in real life we see people who "understand science", like you, do horrible, immoral stuff at the behest of politicians, be it building the atomic bomb and watch a thousand powdered, or finding newer ways to torture Jews in concentration chambers, or maybe even dismember Chinese people at Japanese facilities to see how long they live. But obviously that dude in the gas chamber doesn't understand science, right?
Ah yes, the Lovecraft method of being deadly afraid of AC
What is also funny is that this movie, being titled "Conspiracy Theory", with NASA as the main antagonists IS NOT about flat earth somehow :/
My favourite conspiracy is everything is going to be alright
That's just ridiculous, it'll never happen. Get your head out of the gutter
With the actual situation, yeah no
everything is going to be alright. I'm Russian, so you know, i have a lot to obsess about
I absolutely saw this movie and had completely forgotten it. Thank for bringing back 90 something minutes of my life that had been lost.
“This is the Black Panther for flat earthers.”
Laughing aaaaaaand dead
"The Black Panther for earth flatness" 🤣
From the goofy music heard in the film clips and the absurd premise and plot elements, I thought this movie was supposed to be a dark comedy or conspiracy thriller parody.
According to Letterboxed, however, Conspiracy Theory (1997) is a thriller action mystery and drama.
This feels like a eleven and half minute personal attack
It was during this movie I realized Mel Gibson is a serious masochist... Rewatch Braveheart/ Apocolyto/ Passion of the Christ... Even during the Lethal Weapon movies... He's insane and I love him
Curious on your thoughts on when he played Santa Claus
Also imagine if Conspiracy Theory took place in the South Park universe
I thought they did.
Who says it didn't?
The newsletter could have been called 'The Conspiratorial'.
I will always use celebrities’ names to summarize a movie to someone. Top-shelf grade A editing this vid!
I specifically remember the scene where Patrick Stewart kidnaps and tortures Mel Gibson. I know it was probably supposed to be suspenseful but it was so batshit insane I was laughing my ass off the whole time.
I was high when I saw the MK ultra scene and it was terrifying
I honestly envy people who are absolutely insane like Jerry. I wish I could just be crazy and unhinged sometimes.
Ignorance is said to be bliss, but imagining terrors at every corner with no reprieve is hell. You don't want to be insane.
It's pretty easy if you just act like you don't care what anyone thinks
@@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 That doesn't make you crazy, that makes you most sane of all
Want to see someone like Jerry IRL? Look at your average QAnon believer.
Who ask to have a major malfunction that impends you for acting as a member of society?
I love the fact that the world depicted in this film is one where these shadowy groups are smart enough to pull off these incredible feats like mine control, stealthy black helicopters, and earthquake guns, but cook up these ridiculously impractical plans. Like, how is an earthquake the weapon of choice for a political assassination?
This is like someone took those Mitchell and Webb sketches and played the concepts perfectly straight.
Plausible deniability
Sure enough, nobody would even think that somebody would or could assassinate someone with an earthquake xD
But we have the ability to do that. HAARP has the ability to do it
I freakin’ love this channel! You analyze movies and topics that no one else ever really talks about and are extremely funny whilst doing it. You are seen and appreciated my friend! Keep it up!
My favorite part of all your videos on this channel is the editing. Its so damn chaotic. "Hold on to those eggs dear" 2 seconds later. "Auuuu!" As the old couple in 2012 plow into a giant chunk of rock 🤣
I saw this movie when I was a kid, when it was still fairly new and I always remembered it as being really intense, cool and a bit scary at times (I was like 10 at the time). I recently gave it a second watch, I was a bit underwhelmed but it's still really entertaining, but a lot sillier than I remember. Like that scene with the black helicopters; How can nobody else see them!? ''Silent mode'' or not, they are hovering about 20 meters over the streets of New York.
"New Yorkers! You fucking people think you are so great by playing it cool and jaded all the time! There is a silent running helicopter deploying commandos and I want you all to react to it!"
This is a “Literally Me” movie
"Conspiracy theory", "Enemy of the state" and "The net", great movies often taken little bit too literally.
Props on this movie and Machete 2 for having an insane person play an insane person.
"It's gravy for the brain"
Truly one of the greatest movie scenes ever
Typical Hollywood MO: "Hey, here's an absolutely outrageous idea for a comedy, with the perfect cast to boot. Let's make it a dead serious action thriller instead."
The best thing about this movie is that the following year Enemy of the State would come out which is a far superior film with a similar premise.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean I'm not being followed.
I loved the first twenty minutes of the movie, when I thought this was gonna be a dark comedy. Imagine my chagrin when I realized the movie was expecting the viewer to take it seriously.
I took it as a comedy, it's just I was about half way through it before I realized it wasn't being funny on purpose. Didn't hinder my enjoyment of it though.
@@troodon1096 It did mine. Seeing Mel groan and whimper like he had a stomach cramp, while exposition-dumping mushy melodrama stops being funny after ten seconds, and it feels like that was half the movie.
Since the movie doesn’t look too kindly on the main character most of the time, it kind of works. It’d work better if he actually killed her father.
I’m very happy about you doing this topic because I’ve been watching clips of Patrick Stewart losing it all week and this is the cherry on top
This has to be the biggest "literally me" in cinematic history
He's me fr fr
Wow, the earthquake did not age well.
Edge of Darkness is another “Deep State” Thriller he stars in, I forget a lot about it but I’m noticing a pattern lmao
Yeah, Mel is based as hecc
He's got a massive victim complex.
@@zillafire101 Pot, meet kettle.
@@DIEGhostfish What even did I say that makes you think I have a victim complex.
@@zillafire101 He knows you're an elf...somehow.
MIB: You have discovered our dark secret and revealed it to the world!
Jerry: Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
I remember watching this movie when I was a kid cause the part in the wheelchair and the cartoons and Mel screaming all the time was very funny to me. For some reason I confused it with "Ramson", another crazy old Mel Gibson movie. And that soundtrack, it is so rare and it doesnt blened in the scenes either, but it's very characteristic
That score is incredible. The theme that plays early (and later when Julia Roberts is riding her horse) is a real standout.
The worst thing about this movie is that it has genuinly good (or at the very least fun) ideas AND Mel Gibson in it and it still fails
Picard suffered badly under the Cardasdians... Can you really blame him for going back in time and kidnapping Mel Gibson?
THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS!
@@louisduarte8763whoa man cool it with the lightphobia
"Conspiracy theorists" used to be the butt of media jokes made out to be loony and funny, nowadays they're presented as threats. This movie to me seems to don the attitude of that "make fun of them" era, while presenting a real warning.
They're a threat because conspiracy theories are only theories for like 6 months these days and that's dangerous to the elites. Can't have your plots exposed constantly. From "the vaccines don't prevent catching, they just help you fight covid" being a conspiracy originally, to "aid money for Ukraine is being laundered through crypto back to the US", to "Russia isn't actually that strong and we hype them up to have a convenient bogeyman", it all turned out to actually be true. That and countless more "conspiracy theories" that only "dangerous" insert_buzzwords could possibly believe, all are entirely true.
Some conspiracy theorists do say that these joke conspiracy types are meant to be a muddying the waters effect, so that when a legit conspiracy comes around no one will believe it.
The problem with “Conspiracy Theories” is that some of them turn out to be true. And the worst part is that the conspiracy theory about the CIA creating the term to discredit Conspiracy theorists is also true.
Its part of an exam we give all the interns to make some conspiracy up on 4chan
My man you are getting me through this hurricane and my surgery recovery. Appreciated.
It's good to have you back Hub of the Pointless
"I dare Hollywood to remake this"
I actually have a conspiracy theory that involves that, pointless hub and alternative history hub ,are actually the same youtuber.
No way, take your pills bro
A conspiracy movie actually predicting the turkey earthquakes is so ironic
There's an earthquake in Turkey every few years
@@thedripkingofangmar6778 hell Turkey and Greece trade supplies whenever the other suffers from an earthquake it's that's common
If he did kill her dad, it would basically be the story of Hitman.
5:36 Am I the only one who wishes that we got to see that Deadliest Warrior clip again in this moment? You know the one I’m talking about. It would’ve fit so well!
I agree with your theory that the entire movie is in his head. We’re just shown the world he always thinks he’s living in. One where he thinks the deep state will come full force after some random nobody who’s never taken seriously, where women despite all his many flaws are attracted to him, and most importantly, a world where he’s somebody important. He’s not just some lunatic, he’s a perfectly normal guy who was just MADE to seem crazy by the deep state making him a professional killer.
I think the movie if it explored that route had a lot of potential
You are the most generous man in all of history; “ *strangest* love dynamic “ is putting it SO nicely
This movie is a guilty pleasure of mine. This made me want to rewatch it.
Honestly casting Mel Gibson in this role was the best type casting I've ever seen in a movie.
Did this movie just predict the massive earthquakes in southern turkey???
If it was revealed to be all in Mel's head American Psycho style, you know we would say it was an underated masterpiece.
I feel like there's an entire genre of Conspiracy movies that mostly exist on dropping a plot bomb that goes "Something Something We execute people on our Blood Diamond pile because (Insert something about about primal Instinct)Something Something" And then mostly go on hoping that plot bomb will coast you through the movie.
I want this movie to be remade, but the Riddler from "The Batman" playing Mel Gibson's role, & Julia Robert's character just pretends to believe/love him until she gets the cops to take him away at the end.
Another great video, keep it up!
I recently re-watched both Pacific Rims, they seem right up your alley for content and would imo be a great review!
I'm still waiting for a 3rd one.
@@louisduarte8763
...but how could that be when they only ever made one movie back in 2013?
...did I fucking stutter?!
Of course it's MK Ultra. It's always MK Ultra.
I'm just here for when the Deep State gets taken out by Pointless Hub's Sharknado franchise review.
Walked in on my dads youtube autoplaying your transformer video in the living room, best random find in months, keep it up I love your sense of humor and your pacing and editing is great 👍 subbed and will share, your a funny dude 😄
Got I love Pointless Hub. This is a crazy ass movie I've never heard of, the fact that they just launch a rocket into Mel's apartment is hilarious.
I discovered your channel with your Sharknado episode. Never I thought watching Alternate History Hub's videos on Red Alert would make me want more videos on dumb action films.
As a fan of mystery, unorthodox thinking, and conspiracy theory enjoyer, I can confirm: Yes, most are just crazy. Avoid them and go your own way.
So you believe 100% of the things the government tells you?
Well-Posioner.
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@@charmyzard comment gets _____ if I fix it. its a naughty word.
@@Jsay18 le funnie?Just like the unorthodox sometimes.
That breaking bad edit at 1:29 is one of your top 5 funniest edits
Mel Gibson warned us about they/them
If Cody Was the super secret puppet master controlling everything...... I'd be cool with it
Great books for conspiracy theorists: *Foucault's Pendulum* and *The Prague Cemetery* (granted, that's a level above your average Hollywood movie.)
finally somebody talking about this classic
I remember watching this with my aunt and having literally zero idea what was going on.
My favorite conspiracy theory is that everything will be alright.
you're delusional, get help
I luv that you talked about this movie. These are the kind of movies I remember from my childhood in the 90s. Just bonkers when you actually think about it movies that not for the reasons you think wouldn't get made these days.
Right like, did you ever see that movie where Ed Harris has a son and this kid and His friends hire a prostitute yo see her boobs and then she ends up marrying His dad and it's presentes like a very romantic films.... It's like what, what Is that?
Yeah and I think in some aspects were better off for that
Only in SOME aspects of the movie. Like the movies portrayal of a toxic romantic relationship in a positive light and how it makes the protagonist a mentally ill man being weird and creepy around the love interest and she’s unrealistically fine with it
I liked the wall where you connected a picture of a frog with a rainbow flag to Alex Jones :D it's the details that make this channel so good