The masterful Pat Eddery at his brilliant best. One of the best tactical rides ever in a top class race. Kept Dancing Brave out the back, out of trouble and then delivered him to perfection.
But Oaksey commentating said he's to far back but expects Pat to move up gradually but he's tracking Bering so he's still hopeful 😂 Oaksey has been in racing for about 200 YEARS but Pat knew exactly how to ride the race, wide & late using The Braves jaw dropping speed to leave them behind.
@@grav20 : The Wizard Pat Eddery knew how to ride a horse, they all say Pigott was the greatest jockey & why ? Was it because he won so many Derby's or so many classics & G1's ? Pat Eddery came into horseracing way after Pigott who won so many Derby's, Classics & G1's because he was riding all the best horses I.e For Vincent O'brien, Owners Sangster & Magnier. Pat Eddery won 4 Arc's in a row 85 Rainbow Quest, 86 Dancing Brave, 87 Trempelino, 88 Tony Bin 👏👏 Remarkable. R.I.P CHAMP 🙏
I watched this race at least-100 times and it never ever fails to give me goosebumps in the last 2f …. There’s a reason it’s voted thr best horse race of all time
@@moyajanko6642:😂😅 I got passed that number in the 1st 5-6yrs after the Arc. Its just unbelievable the speed he finds & I'm absolutely 100% sure Gary Moore on Bering on the outside must've thought he had it won & did until the Furlong pole then realised he was on to a really bad hiding. Guy Harwood gave a brief interview about 3 hours before the race & said he had Dancing Brave as ready as he could get him & said " He'll win if he's within 2 lengths of the leaders at the 2 furlong pole" but the bookmakers must've missed that brief interview because giving that price I was STUNNED. I thought he'd be closer to Evens maybe 5/4 but because Bering smashed the track record in his previous race the bookies grew balls 😂 BUT the sacks emptied really quickly, the cash sacks.
@@danielmarshall356: Absolutely friend, its not often you see 7 x G1 winner's in a line & an 8th joining them on the wide outside then in a flash it's 7 again. MY GOAT better than Frankel, Sea Bird, Brigadier Gérard etc. No Contest. R.I.P BRAVE CHAMP 🙏
@@jayuk686: A big fan of Royal Academy friend ? The performance that the GOAT put on in the 86 Arc was BREATHTAKING of course & going on performance only you have Rainbow Quest at Goodwood & what about Pebbles in the Champion Stakes beating non other than Slip Anchor. Also for a 2yr olds first try on dirt, French Superstar (Breeders Cup Juvenile) 1991 Arazi, best 2yr old performance I saw making up 12 L & won by 6L in last half mile with jockey pulling him up half furlong out.
Hey friend there's a big debate about Starkey losing the ride on the Champ Dancing Brave in the King George due to an injury they say ( Utter Nonsense) BUT when back fit why wasn't he riding the Champ in the Arc ?? He rode Shardari in the Arc.
Frankel but different horses different distances last to first Dancing brave with his turn of foot never forget them Frankel did run the horses in to the Ground he could make all or come from the back great great horses ❤
@@2066markcharles dancing brave greatest from frankel beast legendary greatest horse of all time winner arc triomphe greatest horse in centurey 20 in year 1986 in Europe British menu horses greats timefor 140
@@2066markcharles Frankel never ran the benchmark classic distance of mile and a half because his owner trainer admitted he would not win. Had he ran in the Arc, Japan Cup, King George or English Derby he would clearly lose against the best mile and a half horses of his era let alone Dancing Brave.
This was the best arc there has ever been and ever will be..English and French Derby winners group 1 winners everywhere..Dancing brave for me was the best mile and halfer there has been.
@michaeldowd5545 There was also a German horse that s cauthen rode called acatenango that had one all 19 races in Germany I know that don't amount to much but at the the time the jockey thought he had a good chance.depth of that race will never be seen again
Never get bored watching this. Eddery's a genius. I hate it when the frame changes when the brave overtakes Bering! The brave wins going away! What a freak! 'Eddery's asking for everything" And Dancing Brave delivers!
Not sure why someone thought Eddery rode dancing brave in derby .I remember backing sharistani 6/1 I think but lucky greville had a stinker.i could have ridden the beast to victory
I was there that day, still the best atmosphere I've ever experienced at a flat meeting. The memory of him flashing home down the outside to the deafening roars of the crowd is still so vivid. Goosebumps.
This is to this day the classiest field to ever run in the Arc . Something like 11 or 12 group 1 winning horses ,some multiple Group1 winning horses . Dancing Brave made them all look like handicappers such was his phenomenal class and brilliance. He won going away and is the greatest middle distance horse I have seen in over 40 years of following horse racing . An exceptional colt of the highest possible calibre ...anywhere !
Who the fook did Frankel beat that could compare to the horses DB was running against a beating , he couldn't win beyond a 1m DB beat sprinters and Stayers no comparison between DB and Frankel
@@mikedavies9953,Frankel slaughtered ever field he met. Never unbeaten. Race him against DB over a mile and quarter and he wins. Bookies would know it too he would be a 1/3 shot.
even the horses he beat were legends... its so exciting to hear the emotion that this horse evoked, and so sad that these days it hardly ever happens anymore....p.s... great commentators too...
My all time favourite horse on the flat Greville slept in the Derby, and paid the price but I forgive him he had a bad day, and rode him brilliantly in previous races.
@@StephenSmall-sf5um He was the best horse I've seen. Frankel was finally rated 2lb better than Dancing Brave by Timeform but didn't win over 1m 4f. For me DB was better. Possibly the likes of Sea Bird, Brigadier Gerard and Sea the Stars are on the same level but even if you don't think DB was the best he was very close to it.
@@StephenSmall-sf5um Only your opinion Stephen! Thousands upon thousands of people disagree. But we are all wrong, and you are right. Learn to concede graciously. You are the same on every post about DB. Go have a lie down and let us worship the brave in our own way! 61 yrs old here, and he is the greatest horse I have ever seen. By a mile Mr Small.......
Oh the memories what a horse as a 34 yr old man at the time I remember shouting so loud at the tv while watching it with my late wife RIP to those close who are no longer with us
You're a star for posting this. I had it on VHS for years til my flat got robbed..cleaned out! I had some great races on tape. Warning's comeback race after he got sick, Mtoto lots of his.
@@waynequincy5695 :I don't see how their being underrated because Guy Harwood was a Top Trainer & Grevill was a Top class jockey who just totally fked up in the 86 Derby. He rode DB perfectly every other race he rode him.
Dancing Brave was a mile horse. to start Grenville Starkey rode the perfect race and to what he was told to do Greville Starkey never got over being blamed for the defeat in the Derby
@@mikedavies9953 never watched the race then??? He was on the outside all the time FFs under orders from harwood to be held up .. he didn’t handle Epsom
@@danielmarshall356 So if he didnt handle epsom how did he end up with the fastest furlong in history , he was cramped for room 3 out thats why he didnt win
@@selfemployedmortgagehub The race i watch see's Starkey give sharastani 20 lengths lead are you telling me Guy Harwood told him to do that? dont talk shite
This 86 Arc is the greatest and most competetive field ever..stakes and group one winners everywhere...yet Dancing Brave and Pat Eddery destroyed them all..simply brilliant..
Whenever a jockey decides to ride a horse so far back in the field, he increases the chances of various things happening which might prevent his horse winning. Top jockeys have come a cropper in big races when they were held up at critical points - it happened to the best of them, including Piggott on Nijinsky and Park Top, both in the Arc.
i first watched this 6 months ago im in nz, first of all what a race ive never seen a finish spread out like that,as for dancing brave he was flying,hes up there with frankel winx and black cavier etc.hes a champion.
Still cant believe jow he won the arc in that manner.. hardly any win from were he was positionthat blistering turn of speed over the distance ive never seen before
@@IanOttaway-e5k : Actually friend if you look at the 1987 & 1988 Arc's you'll notice Pat Eddery did the same thing on Trempelino & Tony Bin BUT the only difference is the Great DANCING BRAVE did it in a field consisting of 18 G1's and 4 Derby winners. He is my GOAT & just sad he didn't bag the Derby he should've won easily of course. R.I.P CHAMP 🙏
@@andrewblackie7170 Also, Trempolino's 1987 Arc was run at a fast pace with Reference Point trying to make all. So Pat knew the best option was to sit out the back. In fact Tony Bin also sat out the back and followed Trempolino home. In DB's Arc, they didn't go so fast, so it was more of a sprint finish off an average paced opening mile. Which made sitting out the back very risky. Very few horses could have won from DB's position 3 furlongs out with all the horses in front full of running.
@daddyg01 : Yeah it seems back in the 70's & 80's most Arc winners were finishers. I remember in the 87 King George Reference Point won but Tony Bin was 150/1 in that & he was 88 Arc winner which was astonishing. Yeah Trempelino was a similar DB performance but come through the middle rather than wide.
The greatest horse ever no matter what the pundits say the 1986 arc in my opinion the greatest race ever he beat the srongest arc ever look at the horses behind him deby winners past arc winner eddrey had trouble puling hom up i think he would have still one if he was carrying 7lbs extra ehst would of happened to his rattings as for starkey should not had listened to the trainer that day i forgive g starkey
I was 21 and loved The Brave. I knew he was a great horse and was the best I've seen apart from Frankel although he never ran over 1 mile 4. I saw in the local paper the coach company was doing a trip to the arc. I was going to book but didn't get anyone to ho with me so i didn't bother. My biggest regret. Although i did eventually go to see Authorised run. Sadly he didn't win.
I was there to witness something astonishing, the finishing speed from Dancing brave was never in any doubt of victory once Pat moved to the outside, I won a whopper that very special day, he should have won the derby easily but the late G. Starkey misjudged the race,
Sad day for racing when the lowered Dancing Braves best ever international rating of 141 to 138, just so Frankel could be top, fact is even at 138 he was higher rated than Frankel as a 3 year old 136, Dancing brave never raced as a 4 year old. When you think he was a very late fole he was amazing. Wonder what they will do now Flightline is rated 140...😅 all great horses.
Frankel Not as a 3 yo. Frankel probably as a 4yo. But the fact is the top 7 or 8 in this are all better than any horse that Frankle raced against.Think about it.
Dancing Brave has always been Timeform 140, always will be. Frankel was 143 as a 3 year old and 147 as a 4 year old. Dancing Brave might have been capable of better had he raced as a 4 year old, so would plenty of others - but fact is they didn't run at 4. Dancing Brave disappointed final start at 3, so had he raced on may well of run to less than he did at 3. And any horse could be capable of better form than it's actually shown, it's just not in the form book so cannot be rated that way. Dancing Brave beat better horses but not by as far as Frankel.
@@spleeeen4it Haha don't be a tit, Dancing Brave Blitzed Champion Sprinter Green Desert over mile , Frankel never had anywhere near the quality of competition DB had
That is actually a common misconception as he rode DB twice more . Greville rode DB to victory in his next race the Coral Eclipse but then got injured and Pat took over for the King George. Greville then rode DB again in the select stakes at Goodwood before Pat took the ride in the Arc and the Breeders Cup. Khalid Abdullah wanted Pat for the Arc and it was his decision and Guy Harwood stood up for Greville after the Derby defeat. He continued to be the stable NO 1 jockey for Harwood and rode all the other horses in the yard with Tony Clark as the No 2
What an animal!! Probably the strongest ever field assembled for The Arc & DB galloped past the lot of them. What always annoys me when DB pops up on TH-cam or the like is when a load of people that know nothing about racehorses insist that if Eddery was on him in The Derby he wins! Horses are not machines with gears & an accelerator, at Epsom especially horses no matter how good can find themselves shuffled back or pushed outside or just not in the ideal spot & connections of DB at the time were not absolutely certain of him getting the 1m4 well & it's very harsh of people berating a jockey of Sharkey's class as it's easier to point fingers in the aftermath, in the combination between horse & jockey always remember 98% of it is the horse so the influence the jockey imparts on the partnership is very small! After seeing how well DB stayed on at Epsom connection's then knew he'd stay every yard & thus he was ridden with expectation in future races rather than hope.
Some extremely good horses this particular year Triptych sharastani shardari Dancing brave the unluckiest horse not to win the Derby poor Grenville starkey never forget it
At the 2 furlong pole Dancing Brave was stone last other than the 2 horses falling away & he flew past 10 G1 winner's & 4 Derby Winners in there & half furlong left Pat is hands & heels on the Brave embarrassing that feild of world class ponies & Gary Moore said before the race he was confident Bering would win 😂 I wonder what he thought when he hit the front on Bering ? I've got this then saw a TRUE GREAT on his left fly past him. Bering smashed the record in the French Derby which is why Gary Moore was so confident Bering was a cert.
I'm still wondering what happened to DB in that Breeders Cup Turf roughly one month later which, I heard, made him mocked and his legacy overlooked by some Americans? Should he simply had never gone there?
Don't think he travelled over well, lost some weight IIRC, then Guy Harwood reported he got some dirt in his eye as they crossed the dirt path. Horse was probably over the top after the Arc as well. Long season.
What a disgrace lowering Dancing Braves rating from 141 to 138 just so Frankel can be top rated Dancing Braves would destroy Frankel over 1 and a half mile Dancing Braves. The greatest 6:21
There are certain horses who don't quicken at Epsom as other cources. Eg.el gran senor. Stark did nothing wrong at Epsom. Didn't let himself down at Epsom.
The masterful Pat Eddery at his brilliant best. One of the best tactical rides ever in a top class race. Kept Dancing Brave out the back, out of trouble and then delivered him to perfection.
But Oaksey commentating said he's to far back but expects Pat to move up gradually but he's tracking Bering so he's still hopeful 😂 Oaksey has been in racing for about 200 YEARS but Pat knew exactly how to ride the race, wide & late using The Braves jaw dropping speed to leave them behind.
@@grav20 : The Wizard Pat Eddery knew how to ride a horse, they all say Pigott was the greatest jockey & why ? Was it because he won so many Derby's or so many classics & G1's ? Pat Eddery came into horseracing way after Pigott who won so many Derby's, Classics & G1's because he was riding all the best horses I.e For Vincent O'brien, Owners Sangster & Magnier. Pat Eddery won 4 Arc's in a row 85 Rainbow Quest, 86 Dancing Brave, 87 Trempelino, 88 Tony Bin 👏👏 Remarkable. R.I.P CHAMP 🙏
@@andrewblackie7170Pat Eddery didn’t come up to Piggotts ankles when it came to who was the best jockey… No contest.
I watched this race at least-100 times and it never ever fails to give me goosebumps in the last 2f ….
There’s a reason it’s voted thr best horse race of all time
Only 100 times? XXX
@@moyajanko6642:😂😅 I got passed that number in the 1st 5-6yrs after the Arc. Its just unbelievable the speed he finds & I'm absolutely 100% sure Gary Moore on Bering on the outside must've thought he had it won & did until the Furlong pole then realised he was on to a really bad hiding. Guy Harwood gave a brief interview about 3 hours before the race & said he had Dancing Brave as ready as he could get him & said " He'll win if he's within 2 lengths of the leaders at the 2 furlong pole" but the bookmakers must've missed that brief interview because giving that price I was STUNNED. I thought he'd be closer to Evens maybe 5/4 but because Bering smashed the track record in his previous race the bookies grew balls 😂 BUT the sacks emptied really quickly, the cash sacks.
Wise words mate
@@danielmarshall356: Absolutely friend, its not often you see 7 x G1 winner's in a line & an 8th joining them on the wide outside then in a flash it's 7 again. MY GOAT better than Frankel, Sea Bird, Brigadier Gérard etc. No Contest. R.I.P BRAVE CHAMP 🙏
Where was it voted the best horse race? I do think it’s Ana amazing race
Still gives me goose bumps, in 2024.
Me too. This and Royal Academy.
@@jayuk686: A big fan of Royal Academy friend ? The performance that the GOAT put on in the 86 Arc was BREATHTAKING of course & going on performance only you have Rainbow Quest at Goodwood & what about Pebbles in the Champion Stakes beating non other than Slip Anchor. Also for a 2yr olds first try on dirt, French Superstar (Breeders Cup Juvenile) 1991 Arazi, best 2yr old performance I saw making up 12 L & won by 6L in last half mile with jockey pulling him up half furlong out.
Hey friend there's a big debate about Starkey losing the ride on the Champ Dancing Brave in the King George due to an injury they say ( Utter Nonsense) BUT when back fit why wasn't he riding the Champ in the Arc ?? He rode Shardari in the Arc.
Dancing brave machine ❤ greatest horse of all time
Frankel but different horses different distances last to first Dancing brave with his turn of foot never forget them Frankel did run the horses in to the Ground he could make all or come from the back great great horses ❤
@@2066markcharles dancing brave greatest from frankel beast legendary greatest horse of all time winner arc triomphe greatest horse in centurey 20 in year 1986 in Europe British menu horses greats timefor 140
@@2066markcharles Frankel never ran the benchmark classic distance of mile and a half because his owner trainer admitted he would not win. Had he ran in the Arc, Japan Cup, King George or English Derby he would clearly lose against the best mile and a half horses of his era let alone Dancing Brave.
Would Dancing Brave have won the Derby with Eddery on him ? I say definitely yes.
100%
Nope would have made difference at that time of his career DB - they thought he wouldn’t stay band had to be held up and the track beat him
He’s remembered more for losing it than if we won, scintillating in defeat. Horse didn’t know he lost
By 20 lengths
Yes
What a magnificent colt he was.
This was the best arc there has ever been and ever will be..English and French Derby winners group 1 winners everywhere..Dancing brave for me was the best mile and halfer there has been.
There were so many 125 plus horses in this.
@michaeldowd5545 There was also a German horse that s cauthen rode called acatenango that had one all 19 races in Germany I know that don't amount to much but at the the time the jockey thought he had a good chance.depth of that race will never be seen again
@darrenbaker6834 would not of beat pentire celebre thee best arc winner after sea bird
Best ever arc ,wonder horse dancing brave
Should've won the Derby but for a shocking ride.
The horse with the best turnof foot i ever saw in my 45years in horseracing.
@@manuelsammy-lg1vl wrong
Spot on
@@StephenSmall-sf5umpat eddery rode both and said dancing brave was the best he ever rode
@tiffa01 no he stated golden fleece was the best he ever rode
@@StephenSmall-sf5um I just read otherwise both greats anyway
Never get bored watching this.
Eddery's a genius.
I hate it when the frame changes when the brave overtakes Bering!
The brave wins going away!
What a freak!
'Eddery's asking for everything"
And Dancing Brave delivers!
Eddery was not a genius in the Epsom when he gave Brave a bad trip.
@@janinelarocco7184 he didnt ride it that day greville starkey rode it!!!
Not sure why someone thought Eddery rode dancing brave in derby .I remember backing sharistani 6/1 I think but lucky greville had a stinker.i could have ridden the beast to victory
I was there that day, still the best atmosphere I've ever experienced at a flat meeting. The memory of him flashing home down the outside to the deafening roars of the crowd is still so vivid. Goosebumps.
Pat eddery gave dancing brave the perfect ride a champion jockey 🏇 and masterclass the greatest jockey ever 👏
Was the cameraman on coke
@@stephensmall8601correct
Lester was by far the greatest.
This race featured an all star cast. The winner was undoubtedly the biggest star.
Best horse Ive ever seen...and Im 62
Frankel was much better
@spleeeen4it Similar turn of foot over shorter distances...but Dancing Brave could come from miles off the pace and win.
My favourite race ever.
Great horse, great jockey, great race, remember it vividly.
he was the best i have seen
What a race so many top class horses in this race probably the best arc de triomphe ever
Probably the most star studded field ever in this race.
what a horse . if he was within 3 lengths within the last furlong the race was done ,
he was the best thanks for comment
Has to be my favourite ever flat race
This is to this day the classiest field to ever run in the Arc . Something like 11 or 12 group 1 winning horses ,some multiple Group1 winning horses . Dancing Brave made them all look like handicappers such was his phenomenal class and brilliance. He won going away and is the greatest middle distance horse I have seen in over 40 years of following horse racing . An exceptional colt of the highest possible calibre ...anywhere !
He was the best i have seen since mill reef what a race that would have been thanks for watching
The greatest ever ARC won by the greatest ever horse , he made multiple group 1 and classic winners look like handicapers
Better than Frankel? Dream on
Best ever. I was there thankfully!
Who the fook did Frankel beat that could compare to the horses DB was running against a beating , he couldn't win beyond a 1m DB beat sprinters and Stayers no comparison between DB and Frankel
@@mikedavies9953,Frankel slaughtered ever field he met. Never unbeaten. Race him against DB over a mile and quarter and he wins. Bookies would know it too he would be a 1/3 shot.
The brilliant dancing brave
Wow wow absolutely perfect timing
pat was the greatest , rip
Lester
@@jcharles8743Lester was the Greatest Jockey who ever lived no doubt.
Simply one of the best!,he suffered a lot of I'll health in retirement and spent his last days in Japan
for me he will be int the top three of all time along with mill reef & Nijinsky
What ahorse and ride
even the horses he beat were legends... its so exciting to hear the emotion that this horse evoked, and so sad that these days it hardly ever happens anymore....p.s... great commentators too...
One of the all time great horses,brilliant to watch again.
highest rated performance ever
he was the best all class
One of my fave horses of all time
My all time favourite horse on the flat Greville slept in the Derby, and paid the price but I forgive him he had a bad day, and rode him brilliantly in previous races.
It will always be a shame that the best horse there's ever been, failed to win the Derby.
Best dont be stupid
@@StephenSmall-sf5um He was the best horse I've seen. Frankel was finally rated 2lb better than Dancing Brave by Timeform but didn't win over 1m 4f. For me DB was better. Possibly the likes of Sea Bird, Brigadier Gerard and Sea the Stars are on the same level but even if you don't think DB was the best he was very close to it.
@@davewaldo1218 that's because he wasnt the best
@@StephenSmall-sf5um Only your opinion Stephen! Thousands upon thousands of people disagree. But we are all wrong, and you are right. Learn to concede graciously. You are the same on every post about DB. Go have a lie down and let us worship the brave in our own way! 61 yrs old here, and he is the greatest horse I have ever seen. By a mile Mr Small.......
@@MrMrdonpitbull nope sorry he simply is not
Oh the memories what a horse as a 34 yr old man at the time I remember shouting so loud at the tv while watching it with my late wife RIP to those close who are no longer with us
You're a star for posting this. I had it on VHS for years til my flat got robbed..cleaned out! I had some great races on tape. Warning's comeback race after he got sick, Mtoto lots of his.
Probably the greatest arc ever
Harwood and Starkey combo is the most underrated in horse racing history, two fingers nuff said
Pat was the better jockey
Starkey was just as good
@@waynequincy5695 :I don't see how their being underrated because Guy Harwood was a Top Trainer & Grevill was a Top class jockey who just totally fked up in the 86 Derby. He rode DB perfectly every other race he rode him.
In my honest opinion Dancing Brave was the G.O.A.T
What a turn of foot the brave had
A Rolls Royce of a Racehorse and Grevilles Nemesis sadly.
Well done to the cameraman for focusing on dancing brave as he accelerated😂😂😂
What an absolute prat he was! Had a wad on Bering obviously,lol. Still get the shivers watching this awesome horse.
I salute Dancing Brave, and also Channel 4.
Dancing Brave was a mile horse. to start Grenville Starkey rode the perfect race and to what he was told to do Greville Starkey never got over being blamed for the defeat in the Derby
Dont think he was told to box him in on the rails
@@mikedavies9953 never watched the race then??? He was on the outside all the time FFs under orders from harwood to be held up .. he didn’t handle Epsom
@@danielmarshall356 So if he didnt handle epsom how did he end up with the fastest furlong in history , he was cramped for room 3 out thats why he didnt win
@@mikedavies9953 3 furlongs out in the Derby he was on the wide outside. What are you talking about? Watch the race again
@@selfemployedmortgagehub The race i watch see's Starkey give sharastani 20 lengths lead are you telling me Guy Harwood told him to do that? dont talk shite
My favourite and got friendly with Pat.
Redemption for his BRILLIANT loss in the Epsom.
Frankel and dancing brave the best horses to grace the race track
What a field lots of group 1
This 86 Arc is the greatest and most competetive field ever..stakes and group one winners everywhere...yet Dancing Brave and Pat Eddery destroyed them all..simply brilliant..
The Top Jockey Pat Eddery
Best horse ever lived
Whenever a jockey decides to ride a horse so far back in the field, he increases the chances of various things happening which might prevent his horse winning. Top jockeys have come a cropper in big races when they were held up at critical points - it happened to the best of them, including Piggott on Nijinsky and Park Top, both in the Arc.
Any horse that came front the sire northern dancer was amazing
i first watched this 6 months ago im in nz, first of all what a race ive never seen a finish spread out like that,as for dancing brave he was flying,hes up there with frankel winx and black cavier etc.hes a champion.
Still cant believe jow he won the arc in that manner.. hardly any win from were he was positionthat blistering turn of speed over the distance ive never seen before
@@IanOttaway-e5k : Actually friend if you look at the 1987 & 1988 Arc's you'll notice Pat Eddery did the same thing on Trempelino & Tony Bin BUT the only difference is the Great DANCING BRAVE did it in a field consisting of 18 G1's and 4 Derby winners. He is my GOAT & just sad he didn't bag the Derby he should've won easily of course. R.I.P CHAMP 🙏
@@andrewblackie7170 Also, Trempolino's 1987 Arc was run at a fast pace with Reference Point trying to make all. So Pat knew the best option was to sit out the back. In fact Tony Bin also sat out the back and followed Trempolino home. In DB's Arc, they didn't go so fast, so it was more of a sprint finish off an average paced opening mile. Which made sitting out the back very risky. Very few horses could have won from DB's position 3 furlongs out with all the horses in front full of running.
@daddyg01 : Yeah it seems back in the 70's & 80's most Arc winners were finishers. I remember in the 87 King George Reference Point won but Tony Bin was 150/1 in that & he was 88 Arc winner which was astonishing. Yeah Trempelino was a similar DB performance but come through the middle rather than wide.
Best ever
i agree the best
What a fucking horse top class
Great great horse
What a ride!
The greatest horse ever no matter what the pundits say the 1986 arc in my opinion the greatest race ever he beat the srongest arc ever look at the horses behind him deby winners past arc winner eddrey had trouble puling hom up i think he would have still one if he was carrying 7lbs extra ehst would of happened to his rattings as for starkey should not had listened to the trainer that day i forgive g starkey
I was 21 and loved The Brave. I knew he was a great horse and was the best I've seen apart from Frankel although he never ran over 1 mile 4. I saw in the local paper the coach company was doing a trip to the arc. I was going to book but didn't get anyone to ho with me so i didn't bother. My biggest regret. Although i did eventually go to see Authorised run. Sadly he didn't win.
Same here!
Best horse of all time
Yes he was a brilliant horse 🐴 😊
for me he was the best i have seen thank you for comment
I was there to witness something astonishing, the finishing speed from Dancing brave was never in any doubt of victory once Pat moved to the outside, I won a whopper that very special day, he should have won the derby easily but the late G. Starkey misjudged the race,
The quality of horses in this arc was incredible and he annihilated them.
Still my fav flat horse.
Sad day for racing when the lowered Dancing Braves best ever international rating of 141 to 138, just so Frankel could be top, fact is even at 138 he was higher rated than Frankel as a 3 year old 136, Dancing brave never raced as a 4 year old. When you think he was a very late fole he was amazing. Wonder what they will do now Flightline is rated 140...😅 all great horses.
Frankel would not have got within 5 lengths of Dancing Brave over 1.4m
Frankel Not as a 3 yo. Frankel probably as a 4yo.
But the fact is the top 7 or 8 in this are all better than any horse that Frankle raced against.Think about it.
Dancing Brave has always been Timeform 140, always will be. Frankel was 143 as a 3 year old and 147 as a 4 year old.
Dancing Brave might have been capable of better had he raced as a 4 year old, so would plenty of others - but fact is they didn't run at 4. Dancing Brave disappointed final start at 3, so had he raced on may well of run to less than he did at 3. And any horse could be capable of better form than it's actually shown, it's just not in the form book so cannot be rated that way. Dancing Brave beat better horses but not by as far as Frankel.
@@mikedavies9953, and Frankel would have left dancing brave tailed off over a mile and quarter so what's your point?
@@spleeeen4it Haha don't be a tit, Dancing Brave Blitzed Champion Sprinter Green Desert over mile , Frankel never had anywhere near the quality of competition DB had
Still takes the breath away even with lousy camerawork
Grenville Starkey was sacked by the owners and trainer, his failure in the Derby personal i think he never got over
That is actually a common misconception as he rode DB twice more . Greville rode DB to victory in his next race the Coral Eclipse but then got injured and Pat took over for the King George. Greville then rode DB again in the select stakes at Goodwood before Pat took the ride in the Arc and the Breeders Cup. Khalid Abdullah wanted Pat for the Arc and it was his decision and Guy Harwood stood up for Greville after the Derby defeat. He continued to be the stable NO 1 jockey for Harwood and rode all the other horses in the yard with Tony Clark as the No 2
In my opinion the second best flat horse of all time only 1 Better Frankel
What an animal!! Probably the strongest ever field assembled for The Arc & DB galloped past the lot of them.
What always annoys me when DB pops up on TH-cam or the like is when a load of people that know nothing about racehorses insist that if Eddery was on him in The Derby he wins! Horses are not machines with gears & an accelerator, at Epsom especially horses no matter how good can find themselves shuffled back or pushed outside or just not in the ideal spot & connections of DB at the time were not absolutely certain of him getting the 1m4 well & it's very harsh of people berating a jockey of Sharkey's class as it's easier to point fingers in the aftermath, in the combination between horse & jockey always remember 98% of it is the horse so the influence the jockey imparts on the partnership is very small!
After seeing how well DB stayed on at Epsom connection's then knew he'd stay every yard & thus he was ridden with expectation in future races rather than hope.
Thanks For comment For me He was the best alongside mill reef
Some extremely good horses this particular year Triptych sharastani shardari Dancing brave the unluckiest horse not to win the Derby poor Grenville starkey never forget it
Best arc ever😂😂
Our King 👑 Lester Would Have Obliged 👌
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At the 2 furlong pole Dancing Brave was stone last other than the 2 horses falling away & he flew past 10 G1 winner's & 4 Derby Winners in there & half furlong left Pat is hands & heels on the Brave embarrassing that feild of world class ponies & Gary Moore said before the race he was confident Bering would win 😂 I wonder what he thought when he hit the front on Bering ? I've got this then saw a TRUE GREAT on his left fly past him. Bering smashed the record in the French Derby which is why Gary Moore was so confident Bering was a cert.
I'm still wondering what happened to DB in that Breeders Cup Turf roughly one month later which, I heard, made him mocked and his legacy overlooked by some Americans? Should he simply had never gone there?
The track didn't suite him. I thought it was going to be a mistake. He'd had a hard enough season
Don't think he travelled over well, lost some weight IIRC, then Guy Harwood reported he got some dirt in his eye as they crossed the dirt path. Horse was probably over the top after the Arc as well. Long season.
I would not let this camera man film me on a donkey at Blackpool
He was focussing on bering the French unbeatable horse, 🤔 till Dancing brave left him for dead.
What about sea the stars arc
What a disgrace lowering Dancing Braves rating from 141 to 138 just so Frankel can be top rated Dancing Braves would destroy Frankel over 1 and a half mile Dancing Braves. The greatest
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Pat Eddery should of won the Derby on El Gran Senor 2 years earlier rode a bad race which he had admitted to.
No. The French taught that Bearing was unbeatable
There are certain horses who don't quicken at Epsom as other cources. Eg.el gran senor. Stark did nothing wrong at Epsom. Didn't let himself down at Epsom.
The fact is Hukum 2023 king George winner might not make the top 10 in this
Starkey is God
The worst camera work in the greatest ever race
I would have won on it
He was the most unlucky loser of the derby but when you see el gran senor cantering into the last furlong it's impossible to think he'd lose