The Puget Sound Treaty War, The Indian War of 1855-1856, (Washington's Tragic and Forgotten History)
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- In this episode of Searching for History, Erin and I travel throughout the Puget Sound area searching for sites that tell the story of the Puget Sound War of 1855-1856. This was an armed conflict that took place in the Puget Sound area between the United States military, local territorial militias and members of the Nisqually, Muckleshoot, Puyallup, and Klickitat tribes. Limited in in terms of magnitude, territorial impact and losses of lives, the war is remembered in connection with the 1856 Battle of Seattle and the execution of Nisqually Chief Leschi. In this video, we visit Fort Steilacoom, the She-Nah-Nam Medicine Creek Treaty marker, Fort Eaton, the James McAllister Grave in Tumwater, the Borst blockhouse, the site of the White River Massacre, the Ezra Meeker Grave in Puyallup, Fox Island, Seattle’s Pioneer Square, the Connell’s Prairie Battle site, and the Mashel Massacre site. Also, we take a look at the Medicine Creek Treaty at the Washington State History Museum and visit several others places related to the war. Join us as we explore the history of the Puget Sound Treaty War of 1855-1856.
Music Attributions
Song 1: To the Top by Silent Partner (TH-cam Audio Library License, no attribution is required)
Song 2: Snowy Peaks pt I by Chris Haugen (TH-cam Audio Library License, no attribution is required)
Sound Effects Attributions
Sound effect 1: Wild Battle Crowd Approach, TH-cam Audio Library
Sound Effect 2: Gunfire Long Distance, TH-cam Audio Library
Sound Effect 3: Howitzer Cannon Fire, TH-cam Audio Library
Image Attributions
Image 1: “Battle of Seattle," date: before 1918, artist: Emily Inez Denny. Public domain image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 2: “Chief Leschi,” date: circa 1852 to 1857, unknown artist. Washington State Archives. Public domain image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 3: “Isaac Stevens - Brady Handy,” date: between 1855 and 1862, photographer: Mathew Benjamin Brady. Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division. Brady-Handy Photograph Collection. Public domain image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 4: “Nisqually-Chief-Leschi-Portrait-by-Raphael-Coombs-1894,” date: 1894, artist: Raphael Coombs. Washington State Historical Society. Public Domain Image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 5: “20130214073638!Governor.Gen.Stevens cropped,” date: before September 1, 1862, photographer: Timothy H. O’Sullivan. Public domain image. Located: en.wikipedia.o...
Image 6: “Charles H ‘Packwood Charlie’ Eaton,” date: before December 19, 1876, photographer not listed. Public domain image. Located: www.findagrave...
Image 7: “Territories of Washington and Oregon,” date: 1857, author/publisher: New York, J. H. Colton & Co. Washington State Library, Washington State Archives. Public domain image. Located: www2.sos.wa.go...
Image 8: “Stevens Mansion in late 1800s or early 1900s,” date: circa 1900, photographer not listed. Washington State Library Photograph collection. Public domain image. Located: olympiahistory...
Image 9: “Washington Territory West of the Cascade Mountains, 1857,” prepared by the James Tilton, date: 1857, author/publisher: Philadelphia, Wagner & McGuigan. Washington State Archives, AR270B-A48. Public domain image. Located: www2.sos.wa.go...
Image 10: “Ezra Meeker, age 23,” date: 1854, photographer unknown. “Seventy Years of Progress in Washington (1922) by Ezra Meeker, page 19.” Public domain image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 11: “Ezra Meeker 1921,” date: January 17, 1921, photographer: unattributed. Library of Congress Prints and Photographs division, digital ID cph.3b22701. Public domain image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 12: “USS Decatur (1839),” date: December 1854, artist: “signed by J. Y. T. (probably John Y. Taylor, Assistant Surgeon.” Public domain Image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 13: “Fort Decatur, Washington, January 26, 1856,” date: circa 1890, artist: Emily Inez Denny. Washington State Localities Photographs. Public domain image. Located: commons.wikime...
Image 14: “Pierce County Courthouse, Steilacoom, 1858-1880,” date: 1880-1890, photographer: unknown. Washington State Archives - Digital Archives, item number: AR-07809001-ph001454. Public domain image. Located: www.digitalarc...
Thanks Earth and Time and Explore Tayo for suggesting we go further in depth on this topic! It was a really enlightening experience.
Yes, thank you for the suggestion!
You are welcome. Great video.
Really great! I am a member of the Cowlitz tribe and appreciate your efforts to bring native history to light. Please keep it up!
Thank you so much, that is really great to hear. It is a delicate thing, not really being an expert to not over simplify or misrepresent the facts. We did our best. If you know of other important native history that we should make a video about, please let us know. Thanks for watching!
They are not signatures! These chiefs did not read or write English. They are marks placed on the document in behalf of the chiefs present at the treaty signing.
Your comment inspired me to read about the difference between a signature and a mark. A mark can act as a signature if the making of the mark is witnessed. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the physical documentation of the sites of history and your compassionate presentation.
It was quite the journey to go to all the locations! Our goal was to present the history as well as possible while being respectful to the people involved. I think a lot of people that live in the Puget Sound area are unaware of this history. To be honest, we learned a lot putting the video together. Thanks for leaving a comment and thanks so much for watching the video!
I am a Muckleshoot tribal member and you forgot to mention muckleshoot they are very much apart of the medicine creek treaty. We are part of the treaty of point Elliot
Thanks for sharing this information about the Muckleshoot Tribe. I wish there was a way to update the video. Hopefully, people will read the comments. Thank you for leaving a comment and watching the video.
Fantastic research and presentation. Your video has given me some needed perspective about where we live. -Jim
Thank you so much. We didn't know very much about this history either before we researched the information to make the video. Thanks for watching!
@@searchingforhistory I give architectural tours for the Seattle Architectural Foundation and mention the Battle of Seattle on one of the tours. Your info gives me some added context. Thanks. -Jim
@@jarchitect Glad to help!
Let’s talk about how Steven’s changed the jurisdictions just so that he could get Leschi tried a second time and hanged. Steven’s was a horrible man. So was his son Hazard. Since Leschi was exonerated posthumously, Steven’s should be convicted of murdering an innocent man posthumously.
Interesting. I have never heard of a posthumous conviction but after a little Googling I see there is some precedence for posthumous trials but it has not happened often.
Auburn was originally named slaughter, sorry. Tried to correct it but couldn't find it.
@@eddieb4227 Then they drove the Duke boys out and Boss Hogg retired.
I'm from Bellingham, currently living in Spokane, and I've never heard of this war. They need to start teaching Washington State history in school
I grew up in Centralia and I have no memory of leaning about it in school either. Thanks for watching!
Instead they will starting teaching the history of the alphabet + people this coming school year.
Yeah, I don't remember it from WA state history in 8th grade.
The Fred Meyers in Olympia has a mural on Chief Leschi.
When Leschi was in his 20's, him and his brother found the first American settlers that got lost and wood have died.
Later, some of these same people turned on him. They had too much to lose.
@@eddieb4227 I will look for the mural next time we go to Fred Meyer. Is this the one in Tumwater or the one in Lacey?
I grew up in Centralia, WA, near Borst Park. Great presentation and landscape/location shots! Thank you for showing us all of this!
We are glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video!❤
Thank you!!
Really great! I am a member of the Cowlitz tribe and appreciate your efforts to bring native history to light. Please keep it up!
Thank you for watching!
Wow! The treaty was on loan from the Smithsonian! Pretty cool!👍😎
We think so too!
Great job guys! I was not aware of most of this history and I thank you for bringing it into the light! Also, a big thanks for all the tremendous amount of work to research, find the locations and then travel to ALL of them to film! Wow!
Thanks for the compliment! We tried our best to use accurate information and go to all the places. It was an educational experience as we were learning about the history too! A contemporaneous war also took place in Eastern Washington that we hope to make a video about next year. Stay tuned! Thanks for watching!
I hear the sounds of ancestors in birds that fly high. Thank you for this. Words are powerful and have a way of trickery. Tongue is sharp on two edges. Can cut deep. Broken treaties.
You are very welcome. We learned a lot making this video and still have a lot more to learn. Thank you so much for leaving this comment.
My one house is across the street from fort Eaton. The man who owns the land the fort sat on ( a few hundred feet to the north of the marker) is very interested in it's history and would most likely let you go and see it.
Eaton creek is right next to it on his land and had the first sawmill inland of the sound acording to him. The footprint is still there.
My other house located down merdian road has a very old barn and a sunken lane running through my property. It was the location of a lumber operation that pulled logs from the area. The sunken road had a wooden railroad and was pulled by horses. It looks like the sunken lane makes a straight shot to said lumber mill. Ive pulled all sorts of bridals, horseshoes and other iron materials from the ground.
The sites you describe would be really cool to see and film! Thanks so much for leaving a comment and watching the video!
All the land that sits behind merdian road belongs to the Eaton brothers. Basically from yelm to lacey. He sold it in the 1880s. Many barns back here are leftover from the evergreen berry and dairy farms that were present untill the 40s.@searchingforhistory
A good summary of a complicated history. David Denny's history is an interesting resource.
Big picture has a lot of gaps between the 16th C Spanish explorers, the English in the 18th and the European immigrants of the 19th C. During this time there was major upheaval in the local people, epidemic of exotic diseases brought in by traders and trappers, and the 1700 earthquake and tsunami. From reading Denny it seems like there was a range of attitudes among the local people and the whites about each other. Chief Seattle seems to have regarded the whites as useful allies against the Haida and other slavers who kidnapped locals as slaves. A blank page in history is the impact of the 1700 tsunami on these slave owning cultures from the BC and Akaska coasts. Did the loss of wealth in that disaster compell them to raid for slaves in the less impacted southern Salish Sea?
Denny mentions Yakima raiders coming over the pass. Does this reflect the impact of small pox on their population that compelled them to kidnap labor for their economy?
Hopefully, younger people will be inspired by your video to dig deeper into these stories.
Yes, it was intended only as a summary. It would be great if the video inspires young people. To be honest, the attempt at making this video has inspired us to lean more about Washington history. You ask some really good questions that I wish I knew the answers to. Curious, what is the title of Denny's book? Thanks for watching the video!
My great-great grandfather (Eldridge Morse) wrote extensively about the 1855-56 Indian War in the 1870s or 1880s. He lived in Snohomish City.
That would be really interesting to read. Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
Please save the letters on pdf, that way the Washington Historical Society can guard his story.
I always thought that it was a matter of someone taking land that didn't belong to them. Imagine the reaction if the People from a foreign land told you that your house was now theirs. All of your land was taken and you get to live on a reservation.
It would be devastating. Thanks for watching!
Not a far thought when you see what is happening in Springfield. Illegal immigrants are taking over the territory and being paid with our tax dollars to displace us
So very informative and interesting. Thank you for taking the time to educate your viewers. I feel a little more smarter as a result of this video.
We learned a lot ourselves making this video. I think its a history in Western Washington that not many know about. Thanks for watching!
Great work! I like that you showed the places as they are today and tell this important story
Thank you very much. It took 3 weekends of driving around to accomplish this. We wanted to tell the story as close as possible to the locations where the history took place. Thanks for watching!
Great job guys!👍😎
Thank you so much, we worked hard on it!
Auburn was originally known as the town of Slaughter because of massacre and the massacre on the green of an Army patrol
Interesting. I imagine that event stayed with the community for a long time. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I find it interesting that in HS we took Washington state history but did not learn about the Puget Sound wars. We were taught about Chief Joseph and the Nez Pierce and Chief Seattle, but this was left out.
Thanks for the history lesson. Always keep learning.
Yea, its really hard to understand how such important history could be overlooked. I don't recall learning about it in Washington State history either. Thanks for watching!
Thank you, so much, for covering this event. Raised in Seattle, since 60s, and have never heard of this.
Yes, it appears to be skipped over in Washington state history taught in school. Thanks for watching!
You guys should look into the mark of Uncas and the Mark of Oweneco. My 10th great grandmother arrived in Amrica in 1604. My 8th great grandpa was half Mohegan.
I don't belive a Sachem would sign a land treaty with an "X". "X" doesn't hold any symbolic significance, aside from masybe "void."
I looked up the mark of Uncas, very interesting. I tried to find the Mark of Oweneco but did not have any luck with a Google search. I was not aware of these types of symbolic marks. My knowledge of Native American culture is limited and even more so when it comes to Mohegan culture, which I do not know anything about... Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching the video!
@@searchingforhistory I found out that my 10th and 9th great grandfathers fought in the Pequot Wars in the early 1600s on the side of the Narragansett (in Connecticut. ) I've been researching my ancestry any associated history for years. I've seen a lot of land deeds and saying that a Sachem "signed on the dotted line with an 'X", sounds like such a Smitsonian cover-up story, and not a very good one at that. Especially not when it is well know that a person's mark is as intimate as their name.
Maybe it hit me hard cause my grandpa had major strokes and was paraplegic by the time I was 5. He still used his left hand to form a sort of "JEE" for his initials.
Thank you for this video. I had family in Washington territory by 1812. I can't belive I didn't know about this battle.
What a great video. I hope those teaching Washington, Western US and US History use this. It is brilliantly done and so much good information is put into it. I learned so much and you took us right along with you in the story and history. Way to go. And thank you for the shout out and making this!!!!! Now I need to think of another recommendation….. 😉
Wow, what a great compliment. So glad you liked it. We put a lot of work into this video. We are really hoping people like it. This was our most thought-out and scripted video to date. We can always use more topic ideas! Thanks for watching!
It deserves a large audience. I can tell how much work and passion you put into to it!
@@earthandtime5817 That's the thing with TH-cam... it could do well or it could die on the vine after a day. I guess only time will tell!
There is still a blockhouse at the corner of 288 st and lions road east of Roy. Sits about 300 yds SE of intersection.
I believe Stevens was killed at 2nd battle of bull run
Really? That is pretty cool, I did not know about one in Roy. I will definitely try to find it. Is it on private property? Thanks for pointing this out to me.
Amazing history. I had no idea of this conflict. I live in Roy,WA . The the. cemetery next to our development. contains many graves from 1850s .
What is the name of the cemetery? It would be interesting to take a look. Thanks for watching!
Great video! Reccomend checking out the White River Valley Muesuem in Auburn - they have an extensive collection of oral accounts of the White River Massacer from the Pioneers perspective. Also some photos of various monument dedications in the 1920's.
Glad you like the video. Thanks for the tip, the White River Valley Museum is now on the list!
The delta is beutiful as I grew up there and the islands are stunning,whales of several species come through on occasion.The native land now is on the river and bordering the military base and mostly nice forested land.
Puget Sound and the Nisqually estuary are beautiful. Did you grow up near the Nisqually Indian reservation? Thanks for watching!
Thank you. It is obvious that you spent a lot of time researching and then travelling to create this documentary.
We did. This was our most ambitious video in terms of research and location searching. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
@@searchingforhistory It really surprised me that that war covered such a large area.
@@marlenebrown2569 In some ways it even occurred in Eastern Washington as the Yakima War and the Coeur d'Alene War are related to the Puget Sound Treaty War.
@3:20 is that stone marker located infront of the 76 gas station of Old Pacific hwy?! Wow ive driven past that over 20+ years since ive moved to Washington and had no idea that was there, and also That McCallister grave yard is located near a Masonic Lodge, so im pretty sure majority of those people there are FreeMasons or affiliated. Thanks for teaching us about this piece of Washington history!
Yes. That's the one. You're welcome. It was a learning experience for us, too. Thanks for watching!
Good work and thank you Wa has been my stomping grounds for 65 yr.s I was able to follow most the maps tho they were fast and unclear by referencing off of Puget Sound when it was on the map. Mashell was the one I was ether not familiar with or could picture it's location . It is amazing the Walla Walla's and Klickatt's were involved
Thank you for the feedback about the maps, we will try and work on improving that aspect of our videos. Apparently, there was a related war going on at the same time in Eastern Washington. Hopefully we will do a video on that as well. Thanks for watching!
@@searchingforhistory I do enjoy your videos thank you very much
@@jaysmith6255 Much appreciated!
Never apologize for going out of your way to share something with us that was well before our timeà i lived in south sound most my life and this is the very 1st time ive heard of this. Is interesting. Thank you for this video. I appreciate y'all
Our apology wasn't for the history but for not being able to include all the details. With that being said it has had the unintended consequence of turning some people off from the real intent of the video and that is to learn about Washington State history. To remedy this, I have used the TH-cam cut and trim tool to cut out the "apology" clip from the video. We learned a lot ourselves when making the video. I have no memory of learning about the Puget Sound Treaty War in school (I grew up in southwest Washington). Thank you for leaving this thoughtful comment and thanks for watching the video!
I appreciate that you didn't do any extreme white person interpretations, and included messages from the tribal groups involved. Here's some interesting background you don't seem to know about. Back in the early 1850's the US Pres. was Polk. He asked someone else to come out to this new part of our continent and try to get our local tribes to sign treaties. It was Abraham Lincoln, he would have done a better job than Major Issac Stevens, but Polk could order Stevens to do it, and he did it with all his bias he had been instilled with. One of those views was believing each tribe must have a male chief. Most of the west coast tribes, from here to Alaska, where matriarchal, our if a couple married, the man went to live with the women's tribe, as an example. One of the things that would be worth doing would be to actually go the various tribal leaders, historians, and story tellers, and get their side of the story on this time in history. My family came out in a wagon train to what was then Oregon Territory, in 1849. John Axon McClellen lead the wagon train, and brought most of his adult children with him. Most of what was going on out in this area, was a competition between England/Canada, Russia, and the US. Our Government wanted to stake claim to as much of this area as possible. There's also lot of history about what kind of man Major Issac Stevens was and they tell a story of someone who never intended to treat the tribes out here fairly, after all there's the military way. I could go on for paragraphs, but I don't have time right now.
Thanks for sharing this information and thanks for watching.
History shows "Natives" were immigrants from Asia who crossed an ice/land bridge near Alaska some 12,000 yrs ago...So..Native American mite be a misnomer
There is archaeological evidence that pushes the date back to around 30,000 years ago. The Native Americans' ancestors were the first people to live here, so I am OK with "Native American."
Awesome use of Google Maps!👍
Google Maps is a pretty cool resource to have.
I know some Indians who said they dont mind the term..nez peirce and chocktaw told me
The term, "indians"? Yea, it is not uncommon.
Wow, what a great video- Thank you for sharing, I'm so glad it came through my feed, you both are easy to listen/learn from, excellent content and really liked the birds eye view map details! Perhaps a video on the Olympic Peninsula?
We are happy you enjoyed the video. Thank you so much for the compliment. It is heartening to hear that people like our content. Is there anything specific you would like to see about the Olympic Peninsula? Thanks for watching!
It would be great to learn more about the tribes of the Olympic Peninsula that became extinct, (and/or across the nation) there is a sign up at Freshwater Bay near Port Angeles, along the straights that lists some of the tribes, one listed is the Twins tribe that was located near Joyce, Wa. Thanks for what you do
@@shayann1549 I am not sure when we will be heading up there but we will keep your idea in mind the next time we plan a trip to the Olympic Peninsula.
The story didn't end there. The Wilcox family were able to get the commander from Fort Lewis to run the Nisquallys that were fishing and hunting around Harts Lake off the land.
It was a state Fort at the time.
The Bolt decision outlined that only the federal government could sign treaties and negotiate with the Soviern tribes. So the tribe field suit to get those lands back.
The Puyallup tribe was able to get some of the tide flats back and settled the rest of the dispute for funds.
The lands involved that the Puyallup got back were at the Port of Tacoma, correct? Thanks for sharing this additional information.
Also I think I found something that I believe belonged to George Edward Pickett, that I found at Fort Steilacoom, (pronounced still uh come) behind Western State on an abandoned golf course. It is an 1845 Mexican 8 Reale. If you look up his history, you will see why I believe it belonged to him.
Interesting find. I know he served in the Mexican American War, and Pickett was in Western Washington before the Civil War... Thanks for watching!
@@searchingforhistory He was also responsible for building Fort Bellingham, has a house that is a block away that is still standing (oldest in Wa) and had a mountain named after him on one of the islands.
Not to be critical but this story telling was painful to watch
Great subject matter though 👌
I would suggest watching some TH-cam videos to help get and idea of presentation and how to catch the interest of your viewers
Great info that I was not aware of and you guys just need to gain some insight and experience delivering your message and videos
Painful? Bummer... But you were critical... and that's OK. 🙂 Constructive criticism is helpful. Making compelling videos is definitely a learning curve. I like to think we have improved since we started but I think we still have a ways to go. Please check out some of our other videos and tell us what you think. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
Compassion. A good word to use.
Thank you for your comment and thanks for watching!
The Smithsonian should never own any artifact that artifact should stay here where it belongs.
Apparently, the treaties are considered federal records and are kept at the Smithsonian. But I agree, it would be nice if it was kept at the Washington State History Museum. Thanks for watching!
We should stop calling native people "Indians" since they aren't from India.
I am inclined to agree with you and in most circumstances I use, "Native American." With that being said there are times when it is appropriate to use the term, "Indian." One of the names of the Puget Sound Treaty War is the "Indian War of 1855-56." Additionally, there are cases where some local Tribes use "indian" in their official name, Puyallup Tribe of Indians, Nisqually Indian Tribe, Cowlitz Indian Tribe, just to name a few. Thanks for leaving a comment and thanks for watching!
I grew up here and never heard of this war before
Apparently, it's not taught in schools. Thanks for watching!
I wonder if the Treaties have changed since then .If they gained or lost land I'm pretty sure they don't have Fox Island now
That is a good question. How and whether the treaties have changed over time, I do not know.
I grew up in Snohomish County and have lived all 41 years of my life in Western Washington, and I'd never heard of this before. Thank you for posting!
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
I like the Washington sunshine question🌞. Humor always welcome. Very nice tour and info about my state. I have ancestors buried at a pioneer cemetery in Steilacoom next to the fish hatchery or wildlife area (can’t remember which). Thanks so much for this and welcome to TH-cam! 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
We were determined to get that shot rain or shine! I have not been to the pioneer cemetery in Steilacoom. We will have to take a look. You are very welcome and thanks for watching!
Great video, thanks for making it! What a fascinating story, seeing how you trace it through the area was wonderful.
Thanks so much. It was our most ambitious video to date. I'm glad you liked it!
@@searchingforhistory it seemed like a lot of research and driving to put all those places together.
It was. I think it took 4 or 5 Saturdays of driving to various locations. Luckily, most of the info I was able to piece together from the internet.
This looks like bay outside of Port Gamble, but your focus is not on the Peninsula.
On the video thumbnail? That is Budd inlet in the background.
I resided at Ft. Stielacoom at Western State mental Hospital!😂😂😂 Seriously! I'm not lying!😊
Hope you are feeling better!
Bellingham territory belonged to tribe offer for many acres was only 1.00 per acre it is believed to this day that treaty was never honored Sauk Suitable tribe possibly involved
I text Suiattle
I am not familiar with the Sauk Suiattle tribe. Do you know which treaty? Thanks for watching!
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Read " bones beneath our feet"
Chief Leschi was finally found not guilty of murder.
That looks like a very interesting book. Thanks for the recommendation. Yes, we talked about Leschi's exoneration during the video. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
@@searchingforhistory yes. I saw that after I sent the message.
You did do a really good job covering this. There isn't really very much information that is recorded and easily accessed.
The was a lot more tribes involved in this. Some turned on Leschi, some out of hatred of Leschi helping out the earlier fur traders and others because they realized the futility of trying to resist.
Chief Leschi at first was trying to get the tribes to sign to treaty, but Steven's and the settlers he had helped, conspired to take almost everything and leave them with the worse land.
@@eddieb4227 We did the best we could with the information we could find on the internet. Although now I wish I had read, "Bones Beneath Our Feet," thinking perhaps we could have added more detail. Thank you again for adding more information to this history.
sad history
I agree but an important story in Washington state history.
I saved the video! ❤
Please share if you know anyone that might like it.
Stevens was horrible.
Agree. Thanks for watching.
This is America's tragic reality. the actual genocide that my native people had to try and survive.
My heart and soul still grieve thinking about the woman and children that were slaughtered for the land they lived on for thousands of years. 😢
It is hard to know how to respond to your comment other than we appreciate you leaving this comment and thank you for watching. Despite the tragic subject matter, we hope you enjoyed the video.
You forgot to mention fort Nisqually, which was moved to point defiance park. Today people pay millions of dollars to be interned on Fox Island! Funny how time changes things!
Are you referring to Fort Nisqually? Thanks for watching!
@@searchingforhistory That's what I meant, But my phone had a biden moment... At least it didn't s*** its pants!?
@@billt6116 Funny, I even googled "fortnite squalid" to see what it was! lol
@@searchingforhistory It probably told you "that's a really bad week", or something... Fortnite squalid🙄... GO LAY DOWN, JOE!!
Kudos to Ezra Meeker! He's a hero!❤️👍
Definitely an interesting person.
@@MukiBlalock I lived 2 blocks from his mansion as child in Puyallup.
Thank you for making this video. I found it very interesting however I'm left wondering on some details. You say that the amounts of land granted were inadequate. I'd be interested to know how much land was granted to each tribe, what land and the populations of the relevant tribes?
You are welcome, this was our most difficult video to make. So glad you enjoyed the video. We (Searching for History) do not know that level of detail but you can find more details here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Medicine_Creek and www.historylink.org/file/5254
Y'all should visit the Philip Foster house outside Portland, it would pair well with your "End of the Oregon Trail" video.
We had never heard of the Philip Foster Farm Historic Site. It is now on our future video list. Thanks for the suggestion!
Sorry I don't mean to be a pain but I'd be curious to know how were the logistics of transporting thousands of Indians out onto Fox Island handled?
Honestly I do not know those specifics. I can speculate... forced march then by ship to the island.
Talk to the Squaxin Tribe, they know all the true history.
For example, you know that park bench on a big mound right by Capitol Lake? What's under that mound? Its right by the damn.
Yes, I am sure they know all about that history.
@@cynthiaburns5233 Now I am curious, what is under the mound?
How would one speak with this tribe?
@@jayroberson2288 I am not sure. Thanks for watching!
11:23 it’s a little ironic how u just stated the the “euro-American killed more native Americans” and the white river massacre was only 8 😂
Thanks for watching! 🙂
As the 5th generation of my family to call the Tacoma/Olympia area home, this just makes me so very sad to hear. I wish the Olympia legislature would pass some kind of amendment to eradicate anything named after Isaac Stevens. What he caused to be inflicted upon the native Americans of our area is unconscionable and, IMHO, he should not be honored.
I am trying to think of how many places are named after Stevens in Washington. After a Google Search I found: Governor Stevens Avenue (Olympia), Stevens field (Olympia), Stevens County, Lake Stevens (town and lake), Isaac I. Stevens Elementary School (Seattle), Stevens Middle School (Port Angeles), Isaac Stevens Middle School (Pasco), Stevens Hall (WSU). There are probably more. I was going to add Stevens Pass to the list but it is named after a non related John Frank Stevens.
@@searchingforhistory Way too many, IMHO. If you read his life history he died young, at the age of 44, (shot in the head during a Civil War battle). I know he was not well thought of by Ezra Meeker and at least one local judge, who Stevens had arrested solely because of his opposition. WA citizens pleaded with President Pierce to remove Stevens as governor to no avail. There must've been many who rejoiced upon hearing the news of his demise.
In Eatonville near the little Michelle falls there was a massacre involving the upper nisqually tribe
Oh? We didn't learn about that one. Thanks for sharing this information. I will look and see where Little Michelle Falls is and try to visit the location. Thanks for watching!
@@searchingforhistory mashel falls massacre 1856. I guess they spelt it differently then. a few places near eatonville have changed the spelling for example kapowsin
@@searchingforhistory the falls are beautiful I believe I have a short video posted. my favorite place
@@god_bless_u2 Ok. The massacre you are talking about we understood as taking place in the vicinity of the Mashel Prairie. However, some accounts we have read do place it closer to a confluence of the Mashel and Nisqually Rivers. Perhaps that is where the falls are located?
@@searchingforhistorythe falls are located just outside Eatonville Google upper and lower mashel falls. Its a nice hike.
I had never heard this story before. Of course now I'm upset because of the kidnapping and murder of a great man, Chief Leshi(sp?). I have heard about him, very little. I feel it's very unique that this country has all of the treaties it does. I've never heard of it happening anywhere else in history. I could be wrong but I don't think Canada nor Mexico has treaties for the tribes that were brutally conquered. I'm sure it would have taken longer if the much more brutal army of diseases hadn't swept the land before the Europeans. Both sides killed women and children without honor or respect for life. War is part of the human experience. I dislike it but respect a human fighting to save their family and loved ones. Thank you for the time you put into educating me. I would like to learn more about this and the time before the European invasion. 👍🏻
You are very welcome. We put a lot of hard work into making this video. I will be honest, it is a very complex history and our video is only a brief summary. Thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment!
You really need an indigenous advisor/partner that knows the history from the Native community’s perspective for these kind of videos. You spend so much time highlighting the settler victims of the Indian wars but hardly any time highlighting the experiences and victims from the native communities.
We tried our best to have a balanced approach to the history with the information available. Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and sharing your thoughts on the matter.
They're obviously a family doing these on weekends. I doubt they have the time or need to get representatives from every perspective on a video. I totally get what you're saying but I don't think this is what the channel is. Cheers
Why don't you do it yourself then?
There isn't much left here that describes what hairnet then.
Even the Nisqually tribe doesn't have much presented that describes it.
My two youngest went to pre school there. my wife and I went to D.C. for their head start program.
8 people a massacre? Laughs in Native American! For the settlers that was considered a slow day.
But I do thank you for your sensitivities, it shows your deep rooted respect for the actual truth, not just the propaganda that is called “history” in most schools
We went into this video with the knowledge it was a sensitive topic and tried our best to be respectful. It has been a while (I graduated high school in 1989) but I have no memory of the Puget Sound Treaty War being taught in school. Thanks for watching!
The Deschutes River is in central Oregon.
There is also a Deschutes River in Washington. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deschutes_River_(Washington)
Please look at a map
Spit it out! You take Way too long to explain anything.
We have had that complaint before! If you can believe it this was our attempt at brevity. Oh well, it is what it is...
Viewers can adjust playback speed
Why add a crappy comment like that. Geez. I'd love to see your attempt at such a feat. I couldn't do it. I'd probably talk too fast for your critical butt mom they're slow
@@GS-zc4sk I didn't realize that was an option... Thanks for watching!
I don’t think it is actually the speaking speed. If a lot of the scenery shots had voice-overs, it would pick up the pace. The actual cadence of your speaking is a great speed for imparting information.
Where are you guys from in the Pacific Northwest?
We live in Olympia.
There was also a sarjent killed in Auburn Washington, his last name was slaughter, Auburn used to be called slaughter, he was inside a crude shack with slats on the side you could see thru, an Indian shot thru and killed him, theres a plack that tells about it
Thanks for sharing this info. Any idea where the plaque is? I would like to check it out next time we are in Auburn. Thanks for watching!
He was a Luetenant with 2 pvts..2 stone monuments..on auburn way north se corner..can be seen from street..auto dealer lots on 3 of 4 corners..also woman shot in back by arrows and dumped in farm well with child 1 mile from Lt. Slaughter site
What about tribes that refused to sign?
Battleground...
That is actually a very complex question that requires a complex answer that I don't really have the knowledge to answer. I found a couple online articles that might shed some light on this: hakaimagazine.com/news/the-precarious-position-of-treaty-less-tribes/ and www.chehalistribe.org/our-story/people-of-the-sands/
@@searchingforhistory well I can tell you personally that the cowlitz people refused to sign. That's why we weren't federally recognized until 2003.
That's the main reason we are spread out all over western Washington.
It cost our language. Which is a version of coastal Salish. Luckily it's close enough that our language people have been able to reconstruct most of it.
Glad to hear your language was reconstructed.