You are not only a great teacher, but you are charming and a very good actor! The characters you created were great! Your kimono is beautiful. Thank you for creating truly helpful videos that teach in such a clear and fun way! Please know your hard work is helping students learn every day! Thank you so much!
Once again, a great video. You are doing a great service by tackling pitch accent following suffixes/particles/tag words, and the like. The topic is quite complex, and it validates the fact that mastery of Japanese pitch accent is much more intricate than the rules of pronunciation in Chinese and Korean, even though there are indeed some difficult aspects in these languages as well. On another note, how do -NA adjectives operate under pitch accent? Compare 大きい vs. 大きな whereby the latter form with -NA is atamadaka style (retracting pitch accent) when compared to 大きい which has kifuku style (nakadaka).
As for なadjectives.they have the same accent patterns with the nouns without な For Example きれい HLL きれいな HLLL しずか HLL しずかな HLLL あんぜん LHHH あんぜんな LHHHH にぎやか LHLL にぎやかな LHLLL じょうず(tail high)LHH じょうずな LHHL Anout 大きなand小さな, They don't consist of "noun +な", They have own accent pattern. HLLL
@@SeizeJapanese Thank you. What was throwing me off a little bit were the two words 大きな and 小さな to capture the rule. So 好きな, the way I have heard it, would be LHL (tail high). Thanks, again.
I was going to begin giving you some slightly more natural english at around 7:20 but I'm realizing it's very complicated to explain. I'm going to try anyway 7:22 "she has a great way of singing" sounds natural. some alternatives that I think are also natural is "her way of singing is great", changing the subject from the girl to the singing, and "The way she sings is great", taking notice that if you were watching footage of a dead singer you'd change that structure to "the way she sang was great" 7:28 "The way of singing is really great" Sounds unnatural. I think natives will tend to use a possessive for 'way of' so "her way of speaking", "his way of writing", "their way of working", "it's way of breaking" etc.. 7:34 "it's a great way of singing" sounds unnatural. The natural structure will be "It's a great way to sing". the verb tends to become infinitive when we're talking about a general usage of the verb instead of a specific person or object. examples: "That's no way to live", "I read this article online. It's about different ways to cook a steak" sometimes the alternative structure still sounds natural though. "We've got a food diary on our fridge. It's a great way of making sure we stay honest about our diet." "We've got a food diary on our fridge. It's a great way to make sure we stay honest about our diet." these both sound totally natural. I don't know how to explain when it doesn't other than speaking the language for my whole life :( sorry 7:43 "You have a funny way of dancing" I didn't think this sounded too unnatural until I showed my mom and she pointed out some ways most people would say it. We think the most natural options are "the way you dance is funny" and even just "you dance funny"
Can you make a video about counting accents? I always heard the difference between them "十三"や"十四"や"十五"や"四十"や"五十"... "一時"や"一時間"..."九円"や"十円"...but didn't know the rules about their accents. I have not seen anyone working on the accent of counting even though it is used a lot in everyday life. especially counting money. Thanks a lot.
こめ＼ ＬＨ（Ｌ） 米 ⇨ おこめ ＬＨＨ（Ｈ） お米 しお＼ ＬＨ（Ｌ） 塩 ⇨ おし＼お ＬＨＬ お塩 そ＼ば ＨＬ そば ⇨ おそ＼ば ＬＨＬ おそば そばや L H L おそばや ? L H H L or.. L H L L Hello, again. The pitch accent when attaching お or ご to a noun is not always straight forward. Up above . for example, odaka words can become either heiban or nakadaka. How could one know which one to choose? Also, what would be the correct pitch accent for おそばや listed above? This is yet further proof that mastery of pitch accent is complicated. Maybe you will have a video on this in the future, pitch accent patterns following the (honorific) prefixes お, ご, and less common み. Thanks again for your deep insight on this subject matter. Have a great weekend.
@@SeizeJapanese Thank you for "osabaya" and "osobayasan". So, in this way, they behave like "oudonya" and "oudonyasan". But one expects to stay "heiban" with "udonya" and "udon" when you add お before them because they started as "heiban". This tells me that the derivational suffix 屋 with the prefix お makes (almost) all words "heiban". What about the following: お本屋 ?LHLL; LHHH [ 本屋 is HLL ] Thank you.
You are not only a great teacher, but you are charming and a very good actor! The characters you created were great! Your kimono is beautiful. Thank you for creating truly helpful videos that teach in such a clear and fun way! Please know your hard work is helping students learn every day! Thank you so much!
I really appreciate your nice comment, Arigatou.❤😊😊
Once again, a great video. You are doing a great service by tackling pitch accent following suffixes/particles/tag words, and the like. The topic is quite complex, and it validates the fact that mastery of Japanese pitch accent is much more intricate than the rules of pronunciation in Chinese and Korean, even though there are indeed some difficult aspects in these languages as well.
On another note, how do -NA adjectives operate under pitch accent? Compare 大きい vs. 大きな whereby the latter form with -NA is atamadaka style (retracting pitch accent) when compared to 大きい which has kifuku style (nakadaka).
Thank you again! This was helpful! お疲れ様です！✨👏✨👏✨👏
I'm glad it helps you. Good Luck with your studies.
Thank you, again, I hope you will soon have a video on the pitch accent of -NA adjectives.
Enjoy the week.
As for なadjectives.they have the same accent patterns with the nouns without な
For Example
きれい HLL
きれいな HLLL
しずか HLL
しずかな HLLL
あんぜん LHHH
あんぜんな LHHHH
にぎやか LHLL
にぎやかな LHLLL
じょうず(tail high)LHH
じょうずな LHHL
Anout 大きなand小さな,
They don't consist of "noun +な",
They have own accent pattern.
HLLL
@@SeizeJapanese Thank you. What was throwing me off a little bit were the two words 大きな and 小さな to capture the rule. So 好きな, the way I have heard it, would be LHL (tail high). Thanks, again.
Thank you. Maybe words with 3 or more mora behave like compound nouns when an honorific prefix is added. Example: はるやすみ...LHHLL.
I was going to begin giving you some slightly more natural english at around 7:20 but I'm realizing it's very complicated to explain. I'm going to try anyway
7:22 "she has a great way of singing" sounds natural. some alternatives that I think are also natural is "her way of singing is great", changing the subject from the girl to the singing, and "The way she sings is great", taking notice that if you were watching footage of a dead singer you'd change that structure to "the way she sang was great"
7:28 "The way of singing is really great" Sounds unnatural. I think natives will tend to use a possessive for 'way of' so "her way of speaking", "his way of writing", "their way of working", "it's way of breaking" etc..
7:34 "it's a great way of singing" sounds unnatural. The natural structure will be "It's a great way to sing". the verb tends to become infinitive when we're talking about a general usage of the verb instead of a specific person or object.
examples: "That's no way to live", "I read this article online. It's about different ways to cook a steak"
sometimes the alternative structure still sounds natural though.
"We've got a food diary on our fridge. It's a great way of making sure we stay honest about our diet."
"We've got a food diary on our fridge. It's a great way to make sure we stay honest about our diet."
these both sound totally natural. I don't know how to explain when it doesn't other than speaking the language for my whole life :( sorry
7:43 "You have a funny way of dancing" I didn't think this sounded too unnatural until I showed my mom and she pointed out some ways most people would say it. We think the most natural options are "the way you dance is funny" and even just "you dance funny"
@@kaerzokled I really appreciate your suggestion. I need to study English more.Arigatou.
Can you make a video about counting accents? I always heard the difference between them "十三"や"十四"や"十五"や"四十"や"五十"... "一時"や"一時間"..."九円"や"十円"...but didn't know the rules about their accents. I have not seen anyone working on the accent of counting even though it is used a lot in everyday life. especially counting money. Thanks a lot.
@@thinhtranvan1275 Hmmmm I think that some TH-camr made a video about it... But Maybe I will make videos about them.
こめ＼ ＬＨ（Ｌ） 米
⇨ おこめ ＬＨＨ（Ｈ） お米
しお＼ ＬＨ（Ｌ） 塩
⇨ おし＼お ＬＨＬ お塩
そ＼ば ＨＬ そば
⇨ おそ＼ば ＬＨＬ おそば
そばや L H L
おそばや ? L H H L or.. L H L L
Hello, again. The pitch accent when attaching お or ご to a noun is not always straight forward. Up above . for example, odaka words can become either heiban or nakadaka. How could one know which one to choose? Also, what would be the correct pitch accent for おそばや listed above?
This is yet further proof that mastery of pitch accent is complicated.
Maybe you will have a video on this in the future, pitch accent patterns following the (honorific) prefixes お, ご, and less common み.
Thanks again for your deep insight on this subject matter.
Have a great weekend.
@@josef3952 I will check my dictionary about it, anyway,
osobaya should be LHHH
osobaya san LHHHHH (平板)
@@josef3952 I can say that we don't have tail high style in this case.
So お花and お鼻 have no difference.
@@SeizeJapanese Thank you for "osabaya" and "osobayasan". So, in this way, they behave like "oudonya" and "oudonyasan". But one expects to stay "heiban" with "udonya" and "udon" when you add お before them because they started as "heiban". This tells me that the derivational suffix 屋 with the prefix お makes (almost) all words "heiban".
What about the following: お本屋 ?LHLL; LHHH [ 本屋 is HLL ]
Thank you.
@@josef3952 I‘ve never heard the word お本やさんand おうどんやさん😅, but I think they would be heiban.
うどん LHH
おうどん LHLL
ほん HL
ごほん LHL
@@SeizeJapanese Thank you. What is causing おうどん to be LHLL and n NOT remain "heiban"? Interesting that it behaves like おそば LHL.