I got particle beamed literally every turn lmao. I was like ok this is her only attack. Ima have to use curaja every single turn. I cast flare and kept kicking her ass with masumune and Excalibur every turn. But man she had me nearly dead with them beams man
She’s a lot more diverse in the DS version. She has her particle beam, a bitch slap, and two tentacles that cast buffs and debuffs with a shit load of HP each.
The original version used the big attack (looks more like flame than beam) every turn from the beginning. I needed to use two ninjas and two magus who did nothing but heal because one time of her big attack can almost decimate the party (2K + every turn).
@@vivianriver6450 You were just impatient. Every JRPG turn base in 90s can be beaten with leveling up. (In the original, I must have everyone at least at level 60.) Xande's meteor dealt the highest damage in original. One meteor casted and all party member died even at level 60. He must be killed before in the first turn.
@@armnakornthab6867 I've seen videos of people beating the original. They somehow reduce the damage taken from Dark Cloud's attack while dealing massive damage by throwing shurikens.
Wish they at least animated the background in this one, have her black hole in the background or have those pillars glowing or something, just feels stale if not for the music lol
@@DarthWampa_ They created all new art assets for every sprite and map, new combat animations, rearranged all the music, rebalanced the game and fixed glitches, but sure it's lazy because they didn't make a background a gif
I'm currently stuck on her right now. And that stupid particle beam is beyond busted. After beating both FF1 and FF2 pixel remasters, it feels like they made Cloud of Darkness way harder than Chaos or The Emperor! Don't get me wrong they are cheap too, but she is way worse. She has one AOE skill that gets used practically each and every turn, along with the fact that she also has almost 3x as much health too, which is absolutely crazy! Perhaps they had to make this final boss harder, because of all the different classes you can choose in the game. You can make some pretty broken teams if done correctly.
Good thing this one doesn't make the bosses do multiple acts in-a-row or the twice act like the 3D. It's far more easier in thos version as far as i remember
Dang you got lucky in your Cloud of Darkness fight compared to me lol. It was Particle Beam EVERY. SINGLE. TURN. 😹😹😹 It was a bit spicy for my team too but I did it! Lol
Just beat Cloud on the pixel remaster. Party was level 60 and she only used particle beam so after two of my party members died I had the remaining one spam elixir to my ninja who spammed shurikens. Lucky I had just enough to end her
S.E. is still protecting and make remasters/remakes of its retro IPs. I could not understand why Bethesda does not make at least remasters of Fallout 1 and 2? I know they were made by another company but the games' IP belongs to Bethesda.
This is just my conjecture, but I think Bethesda saw their older games as potential competitor for their new games. There are a lot of people that believed that the older games are better than the newest. This is why Skyrim and Fallout 4 continously got the spotlight, to the point that the anniversary of the older games are not even celebrated. I could be very wrong.
I think I prefer the DS version of the final boss theme here which is a shame because the boss theme with the Pixel Remaster is incredible. Though the background is so beautiful. Thankyou for uploading.
Why do you have a Magus?? Sage works like in the NES/Famicom version here And I think they have Better MP charge growth than they do in the 3D remake. So there’s no real reason to use any other magic using job at that point. Though Sages are still pretty neat in the 3D versions despite the nerf it got to MP and Not getting high summons. Knights however are still nice for that cover ability iirc. Just use Black Belt and maybe Ninja for leveling HP. At least I think Ninjas have high Vitality in the non-3D versions for HP gains. Otherwise I think Ninja is the ultimate fighter job like in the NES/Famicom version other than high character level Onion Knight with the Onion set equipped of course. And can use just about any weapon and armor. Though I wish they would have let Onion Knights be able to use any Black and White magic like in the 3D remake. Oh well maybe it’s possible to be modded on the PC version?
Ninja and Sage were nerfed inPixel. Basically Ninja lost around 15 VIT, and Sage lost 15 INT/MND, surely for them to not completely overhadow the more specialized jobs ( mostly true for casting jobs, aside from VIT, NIN remains the most effective physical job)
Not as dumb hard as the NES version, but still a HUGE pain. The attacking order in this game just decides when and how many times attacks are used, which in CoD's case, is spamming particle beam. I had at least 5 resets where I couldn't heal my party in time after she uses particle beam twice. It's a freaking crapshoot, and people that say it's "way easier" are kidding themselves, it's still stupid hard. I shouldn't have to level up to 65+ just to stand a chance, there's no strategy, it's just enduring brute force. I was in high 40s when I got here and it was not fun, haha. The music is absolutely killer though.
You think this is hard? Play the DS version where she attacks twice a turn, has 2 minions with 66,666 HP each, and can cast bad breath, and haste. Also, one of said minions is immune to physical damage while the other is immune to magic.
I played the NES version some months ago and remenber to need 4k HP to just survive the first rounds to buff and also endure one meteor vs ahriman Just seeing with less than 3k hp and CoD do basic attacks and later just spam particle bean means at least for me that they really balance this fight Now i really wanna try this version just to use a bard again vs CoD
@@marklecarde3112 with balance i mean Here in the remaster, CoD starts to do that attack when you deal certain damage In the NES version she do that at the start of combat and if you didnt know you can reduce the damage in some way, you are going to lose very fast if you dont have the enough HP with the sage/devout Basically the battle is more fair
i made the mistake playing the 3d remaster , horrible balance, just came here to see the end because wont put more time into the last dungeon when i lost 2h+ because of Last boss and no savepoint.
so this was my first time playing FF3 i used a ninja, dark knight, devout and summoner and i finished super disappointed i read this boss is (debatably) the hardest story final boss in FF all it did in my run was use particle beam so my devout would just heal the team and we just chipped away no strategy no nothing one and done was only level 52 so i dont think i was over leveled idk.
The hard one is in the 3d version. She attacks twice in one turn, has a heavy hitting bitch slap, and has two minions that have 66,666 health each and are immune to magic or physical respectively. Also her minions cast haste on her and bad breath on you as well as some attacking moves. Also if you lose you lost 3 hours of your life.
Nothing that wasn't in the original release versions are going to be in the pixel Remasters. Making them redundant if you already own a previous version.
i havent played FF3 yet but is there any storyline that Coen sides this part with final fantasy 4? i know that in final fantasy 2 you meet Kain from FF4 as a kid.
They really nefed/neutered the hell out of the last boss here compared to the NES version. Not only does Cloud Of Darkness not do Flarewave/Particle Beam every turn, but it's weaker. In addition Cure spells have been massively buffed. I suppose it makes it better for new players but it really neuteres the difficulty and the accomplishment.
same for xande and the 3 out of the 4 dark crystal bosses greatly nerfed their attacks. makes me worry about ff6 remaster because i really want them to have kefka's forsaken attack at its true pure strength and to give it the ignore defense ability that it failed to have in the snes/gba/psx versions
I’d rather an easier and fun boss than an extremely unfair boring boss that kills you in like 2 turns. Unfortunately the boss still sucks and took me hours to beat the final dungeon, I can’t imagine how terrible the original nes final dungeon was (I like FF3 a lot, but that final dungeon was awful)
@@TheRealVahnLegaia the font is literally the thing you're gonna see the whole game. For people that have bad eyesight (which I think is a lot of gamers) it is a nightmare. And the fond may be fixable on Steam, but is it on fixable on mobile?
@@stardustsdd I agree. I have trouble reading that narrow font myself. At least there's a fix for it on PC. I hope they apply a fix in the from of a patch in the future though.
I never liked any bosses in FFIII, modern DS remake or NES original. NES Cloud Of Darkness is the worst final boss in the series, made more bearable in the 3D remake. But to see them reverting back to the NES battle doesn't spark confidence about the other more dated flaws of FFs I-VI.
![FF3 Pixel Remaster - Boss Fight Bahamut [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_kg5Mj8fw14/mqdefault.jpg)
I got particle beamed literally every turn lmao. I was like ok this is her only attack. Ima have to use curaja every single turn. I cast flare and kept kicking her ass with masumune and Excalibur every turn. But man she had me nearly dead with them beams man
She’s a lot more diverse in the DS version. She has her particle beam, a bitch slap, and two tentacles that cast buffs and debuffs with a shit load of HP each.
The original version used the big attack (looks more like flame than beam) every turn from the beginning. I needed to use two ninjas and two magus who did nothing but heal because one time of her big attack can almost decimate the party (2K + every turn).
Yes, this is obviously not faithful to the original.
Signed,
A pathetic little girl who failed to beat the original.
kinda glad it isn't faithful. Particle Beam makes more sense than Flare Wave, even though I kinda miss the animation
@@vivianriver6450 You were just impatient. Every JRPG turn base in 90s can be beaten with leveling up. (In the original, I must have everyone at least at level 60.)
Xande's meteor dealt the highest damage in original. One meteor casted and all party member died even at level 60. He must be killed before in the first turn.
@@armnakornthab6867 I've seen videos of people beating the original. They somehow reduce the damage taken from Dark Cloud's attack while dealing massive damage by throwing shurikens.
When I did fought her in the Pixel Remaster, she also used Particle Beam every turn. Idk how this guy's getting so lucky, lmao.
Am I the only one who notices the awesome names for your characters? Lol Ramen and Pikachu
Omg I'm excited to have my magus, sage, devout and summoner. All mage team.
I’d love to see that!
Wish they at least animated the background in this one, have her black hole in the background or have those pillars glowing or something, just feels stale if not for the music lol
Really speaks to how lazyily done these really are.
@@DarthWampa_ They created all new art assets for every sprite and map, new combat animations, rearranged all the music, rebalanced the game and fixed glitches, but sure it's lazy because they didn't make a background a gif
@@DarthWampa_ they worked hard to do what they did, I'd appreciate it.
@@ShowtimeLaw and now they're delaying ffvi to make it better than ever
@@nicogalax fine by me, I'd rather a delayed game than a rushed one
I'm currently stuck on her right now. And that stupid particle beam is beyond busted.
After beating both FF1 and FF2 pixel remasters, it feels like they made Cloud of Darkness way harder than Chaos or The Emperor! Don't get me wrong they are cheap too, but she is way worse. She has one AOE skill that gets used practically each and every turn, along with the fact that she also has almost 3x as much health too, which is absolutely crazy!
Perhaps they had to make this final boss harder, because of all the different classes you can choose in the game. You can make some pretty broken teams if done correctly.
PARTICLE BEAM, PARTICLE BEAM. then my party is gone
SAME, I take like 8000 damage every time, the fight is over in 1 hit and I can't figure it out.
@@phillipalleva-cox3903have you killed the 4 dark crystal bosses? If not she will OHKO you every attempt.
My party was underleveled for this fight and I went to go grind and I wasn't allowed to leave her boss room so I just kinda quit after that.
Good thing this one doesn't make the bosses do multiple acts in-a-row or the twice act like the 3D. It's far more easier in thos version as far as i remember
In the original all she did was flare wave
Dang you got lucky in your Cloud of Darkness fight compared to me lol. It was Particle Beam EVERY. SINGLE. TURN. 😹😹😹 It was a bit spicy for my team too but I did it! Lol
In the original Famicom version, all she does is particle beam every turn 100% of the time. It’s basically a damage race.
In the 3ds it's like every 3rd turn
he does 8K dmaage to me when he uses. that
CoD: I heard you like Particle Beams!?
Just finished the game, super hard final boss
As in 3D Remake, Sara stopping a dancer seducing Ingus (she's few years older than Ingus)
Ramen, Pikachu, Anxiety, and DNKA 😂
thought FF3 had triple cast could of dished out more damage with meteor ultima flare
Just beat Cloud on the pixel remaster. Party was level 60 and she only used particle beam so after two of my party members died I had the remaining one spam elixir to my ninja who spammed shurikens. Lucky I had just enough to end her
S.E. is still protecting and make remasters/remakes of its retro IPs. I could not understand why Bethesda does not make at least remasters of Fallout 1 and 2? I know they were made by another company but the games' IP belongs to Bethesda.
This is just my conjecture, but I think Bethesda saw their older games as potential competitor for their new games. There are a lot of people that believed that the older games are better than the newest. This is why Skyrim and Fallout 4 continously got the spotlight, to the point that the anniversary of the older games are not even celebrated.
I could be very wrong.
Bethesda didn't make the first 2 fallouts I don't think they have the rights
@@deefour28 They've had the rights to every fallout game since they got the IP in about 2004 or 2005
I think I prefer the DS version of the final boss theme here which is a shame because the boss theme with the Pixel Remaster is incredible. Though the background is so beautiful. Thankyou for uploading.
Mine was diferent battle maybe because levels beyond 70 the boss always same attack to all but was easy.
Why did they not fix her attack patterns like they did in the ds version?
Why do you have a Magus??
Sage works like in the NES/Famicom version here And I think they have Better MP charge growth than they do in the 3D remake.
So there’s no real reason to use any other magic using job at that point.
Though Sages are still pretty neat in the 3D versions despite the nerf it got to MP and Not getting high summons.
Knights however are still nice for that cover ability iirc. Just use Black Belt and maybe Ninja for leveling HP. At least I think Ninjas have high Vitality in the non-3D versions for HP gains.
Otherwise I think Ninja is the ultimate fighter job like in the NES/Famicom version other than high character level Onion Knight with the Onion set equipped of course. And can use just about any weapon and armor.
Though I wish they would have let Onion Knights be able to use any Black and White magic like in the 3D remake. Oh well maybe it’s possible to be modded on the PC version?
Ninja and Sage were nerfed inPixel. Basically Ninja lost around 15 VIT, and Sage lost 15 INT/MND, surely for them to not completely overhadow the more specialized jobs ( mostly true for casting jobs, aside from VIT, NIN remains the most effective physical job)
Sage had less lvl 8 charges, and less INT I think.
Because doing 2 ninja + 2 sage is not very definitive. You can challenge yourself using pretty much any party
@@sertiana2512 ninjas are op they do the most damage if you spam shrunkens
Is it me or this boss was ultra hard
Compared to the NES version, this is easy as heck.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, that's funny, I play the NES version so.... play the NES version then you'll know what hard is (no offense)
@@trifortay flare wave x99
Not as dumb hard as the NES version, but still a HUGE pain. The attacking order in this game just decides when and how many times attacks are used, which in CoD's case, is spamming particle beam. I had at least 5 resets where I couldn't heal my party in time after she uses particle beam twice. It's a freaking crapshoot, and people that say it's "way easier" are kidding themselves, it's still stupid hard. I shouldn't have to level up to 65+ just to stand a chance, there's no strategy, it's just enduring brute force. I was in high 40s when I got here and it was not fun, haha. The music is absolutely killer though.
You think this is hard? Play the DS version where she attacks twice a turn, has 2 minions with 66,666 HP each, and can cast bad breath, and haste. Also, one of said minions is immune to physical damage while the other is immune to magic.
It's good to see that after 30 years, the final boss of FF3 is....
Still f**king garbage.
whats the point of going to each of the 4 dark crystals? you can just go to the final boss
FF 4-6 ?
I played the NES version some months ago and remenber to need 4k HP to just survive the first rounds to buff and also endure one meteor vs ahriman
Just seeing with less than 3k hp and CoD do basic attacks and later just spam particle bean means at least for me that they really balance this fight
Now i really wanna try this version just to use a bard again vs CoD
You know what i really would've liked to see? A good boss battle.
About what balance do you speak? The boss only have physical attack and Particle Beam. It's simply pathetic.
@@marklecarde3112 with balance i mean
Here in the remaster, CoD starts to do that attack when you deal certain damage
In the NES version she do that at the start of combat and if you didnt know you can reduce the damage in some way, you are going to lose very fast if you dont have the enough HP with the sage/devout
Basically the battle is more fair
@@martinacosta9554 Only if teh RNG allows it. There are plenty who experienced particle beam turn 1 every turn
i made the mistake playing the 3d remaster , horrible balance, just came here to see the end because wont put more time into the last dungeon when i lost 2h+ because of Last boss and no savepoint.
Why'd you cut-off the creditssss?
Did they add better save points for the final dungeon?
Autosave and quicksave
Autosave and quicksave exist. As far as I’m aware no version of FF3 has in dungeon save points.
so this was my first time playing FF3 i used a ninja, dark knight, devout and summoner and i finished super disappointed i read this boss is (debatably) the hardest story final boss in FF all it did in my run was use particle beam so my devout would just heal the team and we just chipped away no strategy no nothing one and done was only level 52 so i dont think i was over leveled idk.
The hard one is in the 3d version. She attacks twice in one turn, has a heavy hitting bitch slap, and has two minions that have 66,666 health each and are immune to magic or physical respectively. Also her minions cast haste on her and bad breath on you as well as some attacking moves. Also if you lose you lost 3 hours of your life.
Is the Iron Golem super boss in this game?
Nope , that was added in the 3d version
These remasters will have none of the extra content of any of the remakes, unfortunately.
Nothing that wasn't in the original release versions are going to be in the pixel Remasters. Making them redundant if you already own a previous version.
i havent played FF3 yet but is there any storyline that Coen sides this part with final fantasy 4? i know that in final fantasy 2 you meet Kain from FF4 as a kid.
They really nefed/neutered the hell out of the last boss here compared to the NES version. Not only does Cloud Of Darkness not do Flarewave/Particle Beam every turn, but it's weaker. In addition Cure spells have been massively buffed.
I suppose it makes it better for new players but it really neuteres the difficulty and the accomplishment.
Yeah it pisses me off. We are not babies, damn it!
That's not difficult, that's a shitty boss if it spams a move lmfao
@@ShowtimeLaw As someone who played the NES version recently, I gotta say she was real cool there. Not spammy at all.
same for xande and the 3 out of the 4 dark crystal bosses greatly nerfed their attacks. makes me worry about ff6 remaster because i really want them to have kefka's forsaken attack at its true pure strength and to give it the ignore defense ability that it failed to have in the snes/gba/psx versions
I’d rather an easier and fun boss than an extremely unfair boring boss that kills you in like 2 turns. Unfortunately the boss still sucks and took me hours to beat the final dungeon, I can’t imagine how terrible the original nes final dungeon was (I like FF3 a lot, but that final dungeon was awful)
Ost please
OMG the font is horrible
1. It really isn't that bad.
2. There is a simple, easy fix for it on PC.
@@haydendutton6916 Out of all the things for people to latch on to, they're freaking out over a fucking font. LOL Pretty ridiculous.
@@TheRealVahnLegaia the font is literally the thing you're gonna see the whole game. For people that have bad eyesight (which I think is a lot of gamers) it is a nightmare. And the fond may be fixable on Steam, but is it on fixable on mobile?
@@stardustsdd I agree. I have trouble reading that narrow font myself. At least there's a fix for it on PC. I hope they apply a fix in the from of a patch in the future though.
Square should redesigned the font themselves, it shouldn't take a fan mod to do that.
I never liked any bosses in FFIII, modern DS remake or NES original. NES Cloud Of Darkness is the worst final boss in the series, made more bearable in the 3D remake. But to see them reverting back to the NES battle doesn't spark confidence about the other more dated flaws of FFs I-VI.
Let's make final boss have only one attack! It's so unique and interesting!