No worries, our VO will submit shortly a recording of him reciting DEEEETENTS 1000 times, otherwise he's not getting paid. We'll post that as an apology :))
That's a very nifty system, and really quick to swap between settings, top job! One thing sticks out as a missed opportunity though, is having the ability to have different buttons activate when crossing the detent deadzone depending on whether you're coming from above or below. Like for example some planes in DCS have separate mappings for "Stop to Idle" and "Idle to Stop", and supporting this behavior could be very useful.
Will the 5 position selector be available to use in game when you don't press the grey button? As in, can I bind controls to it without losing the detent swap functionality?
Can anyone explain the various detent styles and why you’d choose one style over another? Is it purely a matter of preference/feel, or are some aircraft bindings (in DCS for example) set up so that one is better than another?
So, a replication of an A320 throttle would be possible. The first detent with lever action for the reversers, the second for CL, the third for FLX/MCT and on 100% TOGA. With the interchangeable detent sets and profiles, it's also extremely simple to switch between an Airbus config for MSFS/XP and a fighter in DCS. That's incredibly easy and flexible at the same time. Can't wait until it is available in the EU store.
I'm also considering this product to play MSFS ! I know it's more for things like DCS but the flexibility to jump between airbus and boeing with just a thumbscrew is amazing. For Airbus I think 2 M-shape detents (CLB, FLEX) and one L or V-shape detent for reverse should do the trick !
The flexibility looks very good, especially the swap of detents is genius. EDIT (now I see @jubuttib also wanted this, great I'm not the only one): I'd love to see two events per detent though + few new events. Consider the STOP/IDLE transition which in many planes in DCS requires two different bindings. I'd need event like "leaving the detent up" (and down) which would fire a button press of some short (perhaps customizable) duration. Or is there an alternative how to bind throttle stop/idle commands in a different way directly on the throttle? (I know it does not have to be on the throttle, but why not?) 🙂
That, and just the wrong vowel sound (should be more like the "di" in "ding" rather than the "de" in "dentist" used here). I mean it's not a big deal, of course. =)
Dear VKB, thank you for the excellent device. I enjoy it very much. I have a question though: how do I assign negative throttle values to lets say 0-20% ? I want to use this range of the axis for the reverse thrust, and unfortunately didn't find a solution by now. A link or any response will be appreciated. Sincerely
@@VKBSim Thank you. Though I wasn't lucky enough to locate strafe/full throttle in the VKB Config app. Could you help any further. P.S. in User guide I couldn't find "strafe!" as well. Or should it be done in the game settings?
It's even better than I thought !! Just a quick question : is it possible to use the trigger on the grip to "go back" through a L-Shape detent (like enabling reverse) or you just do it by pulling with force ?
Oh my bad ! Since the "phasing in" STECS video, I though this was finger lift (didn't know the name so for me it was the same as a trigger) 🙃 Superb product anyway !
Hmmm. I only have a black #1 Free and nothing else in my Detents tab. A little annoying to figure out what's wrong from that point. edit: Putting it on and off again apparently resolved this for whatever reason. :D
+vkbsim *The ST⩥ECSᵀᴹ detents could be set up for the Sukhoi-33 or -57 Korabeln'yj Perekhvatchik with an L for idle, W for MIL, and V for MAX.* Would be nice if ye provided a "tall W" for catapult stop (the "tall V" is already in production).
this type of on the fly customisability is what wins me over. damn, maybe STECS is all I need! still curious about the reviews of the shape, button feel, and rotation length, before buying.
For future versions, you guys might want different textures or unique markings for the detent frames for those who are color-blind. That's not me, but some people may be turned off from a purchase due to this. I'm gonna pick one up today.
Will the detents and rails be sold separately in case we want even more detent configurations by using additional profiles? How many detents will be packaged with the throttle?
The reddit post for Phase 1 laid out the plans: The Mini models will come with 1 detent frame and 1 of each L- and V-shape detent type (total of 4 detents). The Standard and Max models will come with 5 frames (all the colors), 4 of each L-shape detent type, 5 of each V-shape detent type, and 2 M-shape detents (total of 20 detents). They also mention the following: "All modules, rubber inserts, detents and detent frames will be available separately, too."
You can see the base plates measurements here: forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7552. Add 2-3 inches at the front for the grips, as they go further at max deflection.
@@VKBSim I've got two blocks with 3 detents and one with 2 detents. Maybe they were in the box of GNX-THQ ? Old order (2021). So there are no 4-detents blocks?
Say it with me. DEEEEE TENTS.
No worries, our VO will submit shortly a recording of him reciting DEEEETENTS 1000 times, otherwise he's not getting paid. We'll post that as an apology :))
@@VKBSim deeeeeetents number 1000 " Deeeeeeeeeeznutz" FK! Again!
I love VKB becauae the are putting so much effort in explaning every single detail about their products... Just amazing - hello from germany❤💙💛
That's a very nifty system, and really quick to swap between settings, top job!
One thing sticks out as a missed opportunity though, is having the ability to have different buttons activate when crossing the detent deadzone depending on whether you're coming from above or below. Like for example some planes in DCS have separate mappings for "Stop to Idle" and "Idle to Stop", and supporting this behavior could be very useful.
Never say never, let it cool down a bit and we'll see if that feature could be implemented.
I'm pretty sure this is doable via the advanced functions of VKBDevCfg
As long as the game doesn't do anything funny when you hold pressed either of those you should be fine mapping buttons to the axis range
@@VKBSim Great to hear this is your attitude, though if I'm honest I never doubted you. =)
This was my first thought when watching this video
Will the 5 position selector be available to use in game when you don't press the grey button? As in, can I bind controls to it without losing the detent swap functionality?
Can anyone explain the various detent styles and why you’d choose one style over another? Is it purely a matter of preference/feel, or are some aircraft bindings (in DCS for example) set up so that one is better than another?
Can I have multiple detents installed on at the same time? Like have one at 10% and one at 90%?
You could have up to 3 detents per detent frame.
So, a replication of an A320 throttle would be possible. The first detent with lever action for the reversers, the second for CL, the third for FLX/MCT and on 100% TOGA. With the interchangeable detent sets and profiles, it's also extremely simple to switch between an Airbus config for MSFS/XP and a fighter in DCS. That's incredibly easy and flexible at the same time. Can't wait until it is available in the EU store.
I'm also considering this product to play MSFS !
I know it's more for things like DCS but the flexibility to jump between airbus and boeing with just a thumbscrew is amazing.
For Airbus I think 2 M-shape detents (CLB, FLEX) and one L or V-shape detent for reverse should do the trick !
The flexibility looks very good, especially the swap of detents is genius.
EDIT (now I see @jubuttib also wanted this, great I'm not the only one): I'd love to see two events per detent though + few new events. Consider the STOP/IDLE transition which in many planes in DCS requires two different bindings. I'd need event like "leaving the detent up" (and down) which would fire a button press of some short (perhaps customizable) duration. Or is there an alternative how to bind throttle stop/idle commands in a different way directly on the throttle? (I know it does not have to be on the throttle, but why not?) 🙂
The software part is adjustable at both user and developer levels. If there's a function that is needed we will see if it could be implemented.
Is he putting the emphasis on the wrong half of detent or am I retarded?
Is it DE-tent or de-TENT?
That, and just the wrong vowel sound (should be more like the "di" in "ding" rather than the "de" in "dentist" used here).
I mean it's not a big deal, of course. =)
I have always heard it pronounced as DEE-tent. with the vowel sound the same as the word bee. @@jubuttib
@@maxables1748Yeah, that's the same sound, just elongated. I've heard both long and short versions, but that sound.
Dear VKB, thank you for the excellent device. I enjoy it very much. I have a question though: how do I assign negative throttle values to lets say 0-20% ? I want to use this range of the axis for the reverse thrust, and unfortunately didn't find a solution by now. A link or any response will be appreciated. Sincerely
You only need to assign the axis to strafe instead of full throttle, this way you'll have throttle fwd and throttle back on each half of the axis.
@@VKBSim Thank you. Though I wasn't lucky enough to locate strafe/full throttle in the VKB Config app. Could you help any further.
P.S. in User guide I couldn't find "strafe!" as well.
Or should it be done in the game settings?
@@cerebralvolvulus I meant in game, not in VKBDevCfg. Come on our Discord server, we'll explain more over there discord.gg/UJAdpdHpYm
Does anyone know when the STECS are coming to the UK?
Hope y'all sell a million of these. Can't wait to get my hands on one.
Detent произносится как дИтэнт
It's even better than I thought !!
Just a quick question : is it possible to use the trigger on the grip to "go back" through a L-Shape detent (like enabling reverse) or you just do it by pulling with force ?
They're triggers, not finger lifts. You could get through detents by just rolling over them.
Oh my bad ! Since the "phasing in" STECS video, I though this was finger lift (didn't know the name so for me it was the same as a trigger) 🙃
Superb product anyway !
Hmmm. I only have a black #1 Free and nothing else in my Detents tab. A little annoying to figure out what's wrong from that point.
edit: Putting it on and off again apparently resolved this for whatever reason. :D
Please join our Discord server for a fast resolve of this kind of issue discord.gg/UJAdpdHpYm
+vkbsim *The ST⩥ECSᵀᴹ detents could be set up for the Sukhoi-33 or -57 Korabeln'yj Perekhvatchik with an L for idle, W for MIL, and V for MAX.* Would be nice if ye provided a "tall W" for catapult stop (the "tall V" is already in production).
Where can I find the VKBDevCfg 0.92.86 version in this video? The latest one in the website is the 0.92.79
Shut up and take my money!
this type of on the fly customisability is what wins me over. damn, maybe STECS is all I need! still curious about the reviews of the shape, button feel, and rotation length, before buying.
Amazing Modularity! cant wait to set up after burner detents for my favorite aircraft.
For future versions, you guys might want different textures or unique markings for the detent frames for those who are color-blind. That's not me, but some people may be turned off from a purchase due to this. I'm gonna pick one up today.
When using primary colors like this, they don't blend together as strongly as you'd think.
Will the detents and rails be sold separately in case we want even more detent configurations by using additional profiles? How many detents will be packaged with the throttle?
The reddit post for Phase 1 laid out the plans:
The Mini models will come with 1 detent frame and 1 of each L- and V-shape detent type (total of 4 detents).
The Standard and Max models will come with 5 frames (all the colors), 4 of each L-shape detent type, 5 of each V-shape detent type, and 2 M-shape detents (total of 20 detents).
They also mention the following: "All modules, rubber inserts, detents and detent frames will be available separately, too."
Awesome, can't wait!
is there a technical documentation regarding the dimensions of the throttle as i would like to check if it fits my desk thanks
You can see the base plates measurements here: forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7552. Add 2-3 inches at the front for the grips, as they go further at max deflection.
this comment is not important, but the way you say detent threw me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the hell off lmao! great tutorial!
Stop don't bash the Canadian!
Are the STECS avalible now for sale?
They are, check your local store (links in the description).
Nice, are those detents provided in the box or they are separate purchase?
Yes and no, the mini comes with one frame and one of each detent I think. Standard comes with all of the frames, switches, and more detents
Interested to see how the electronic detent version will compare
As we're all are :)
Is there a way to get detents for GNX-SEM ? When I bought mine, I've got 2 × 3-detents plastic pieces, but no 4-detent piece.
The STEM doesn't come with any extras, only with the 3 detent block..
@@VKBSim I've got two blocks with 3 detents and one with 2 detents. Maybe they were in the box of GNX-THQ ? Old order (2021).
So there are no 4-detents blocks?
@@Jahus I'll have to check what extras were originally included in the SEM package, please contact me on Discord.
AMAZING!
I cant wait!
When available in USA?
They currently available for NA www.vkbcontrollers.com/
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