You'd do yourself good to kick that mindset my man. I say this knowing I'm a random guy on youtube you've never met, but I figure its always good to encourage people.
during the video I was literally like "but there ARE other dramatic moments like Sachi's death" but then I remembered the original anime didnt flesh Sashi out enough for people to even remember her name, and is never mentioned again.
They might have banged in the light novels but being naked in bed in the morning while not having done the deed so to speak was not a new idea even when arifuretafirst came out!!!
As someone who read the manga, I actually liked post-escape more. I couldn't stop laughing reading that shit, it's a certain brand of edge that is endlessly hilarious to me.
Jay Terra I mean it was more enjoyable for me for the same reasons you said, it was bad before but i couldn’t stop thinking it was comedy when he pulls out an even bigger/darker gun to fight an even more spikey monster
Honestly as much as it pains me to admit, SAO at least has a decent tier animation, not those cgi static shots, and like, Yue literally is supposed to be a vampire so strong that there was no way to kill her, but then she gets released from her seal for her to get kidnapped and thrown around having to rely on a HUMAN to "save" her? lit, it makes no sense
Arifureta may be bad from a critical perspective and it honestly feels like it's on fast foward and is constantly skipping multiple chapters of content even more so than SAO but I enjoy it like a guilty pleasure, I love isekai and sometimes it's just fun to watch a bit of escapist trash like reading a trashy novel. I love my overlords, my tanya the evils and my log horizons but not everything has to be a masterpiece or an intellectual deconstruction of the genre.
@@joseph2941 I was a sucker for the Myu arc in LN 4. Thought the reuniting with the Classmates was even better. I am always down for protecting a child in a LN. It got me to buy the "If It is for my Daugther, I would even defeat a Demon Lord".
@Matt Wongkondee Worse harem but understanding MC. Ass War on the other hand has DENSE generic protagonist. No matter how good of harem list is, it became useless if the MC is DENSE
the major problems with arifureta, and to the most part, most of the isekai genre, is that, by overpowering the main character to such an absurd level, you completely disarm any situation he has to face, so the story then requires that something else comes and take the spot. to me, the series failed when 2 things happened, the first was when he got stronger, as opposed to smarter, had him stay physically weak, but with a power that requires him to plan, project and build the answer makes a much more interesting, and yet, all the solution are delivered more in an ass pull manner, rather than a logical evolution. then, there was the change with the introduction of the rabbit girl, when the series stopped being about him, and became just another harem.
"So I'm a spider so what" doesn't work that way, btw. You've mentioned a few times that spider girl is just like slime isekai or Arifureta where she gains abilities from the things she eats, but that is not the case as far as i know. She doesn't eat things and gain it's abilities. She eats things and occasionally gains abilities from the act of eating and she sometimes gains abilities from fighting monsters, but the spider doesn't gain skills from the things she eats. It has a completely different. skill point/experience based system. She only eats things to gain stamina, but I understand your confusion because they do mention her eating a lot.
G.Stoppard Neon Genesis Evangelion, Monster, Any of the Berserk adaptations that’s not 2016, Psycho Pass, Fate/Zero, Madoka Magica, Made In Abyss, Fullmetal Alchemist (2003).
vAqeii Vinland saga this season: Am I a joke to you? Ok all jokes aside there is definitely still some good anime coming out or at least decent, Vinland Saga is on the greatness part of things tho.
@@Wallie33. I mean, I'm a filthy casual so I don't know what my opinion is worth but I'm finding Cop Craft, Astra: Lost in Space, and Dr. Stone to be pretty good. Particularly the latter two. Cop Craft might've been my number one if it weren't for that generic ass betrayal they pulled early on. I'd give a spoiler warning but if you saw it and were genuinely surprised then you've never seen a cop show or movie before.
@@ultraoverloadx9333 Eh, I think that's doing Kaneki a disservice. At least by the end of the first season you can understand why Kaneki becomes a white-haired edgelord. Like, there was something of a journey there. This guy gets fucked over by *one* classmate and thinks "The obvious lesson to be learned form this is that the world and everyone in it can go fuck themselves, I'll do anything I can to live and go back home, and I'll kill anyone who gets in my way". Like dude, chill. I'm pretty sure most of your class were decent people who appreciated your sacrifice. No need to go full nihilist cause of one shithead.
The other bigger problem is that Ari feretta is a victim of appearing at a time when it seems like every Studio has multiple of animes like this they start to look the same begin to not necessarily feel as distinctive
I dropped the series (light novel) when it started to become another cliche harem. I don't hate harem but I do think it is completely out of both Yue and Hajime's character to accept many more romance relationships.
@@TheMagictinou OH FOR F*CK SAKE COME ON CAN THEY NOT JUST MAKE A F*CKIN' ISEKAI WITH A WORKING ROMANCE WITHOUT ADDING USELESS AND TASTELESS CHARACTERS BEHIND FOR GOD'S SAKE Pls just get rid of that...
I kept hearing that the Arifureta light novel is good so I gave it a try. I tapped out in the first chapter. I couldn't even get past the character introductions.
Yeah it's actually bad well the first chapter anything they skipped in the show was bad in the books after the show it actually gets pretty good let's hope the anime season 2 does come out
As someone who came from the novels I'll leave a warning here, don't worry it's nothing serious. Most comments you're going to read about the series are very polarizing, you either love or hate Arifureta. I'll go futher and say that some people who dislike Arifureta are a bit too extreme, or simply misunderstood the series. I've been looking for other things of the same author and I've come to the conclusion that his works are not to be taken literallly or seriously. Well, the Author's pen name itself tells you that, as it practically means, "Look, I'm Edgy"(this is an interpretation, not a translation of his name). This invalidates some of the worse comments about the novel. That said, I did enjy Arifureta a lot, if you know that it's not meant to be taken seriously, this changes the whole perspective about what some people deemed as a "fall from grace". Most people like the Labyrith arc but didn't like some of the things that happens afterwards. And this is the reason. End of warning. That said, I'd say Arifureta is easily a better work compared to Sword Art online. Why, becauser Arifureta knows it's place and value, it never pretends to be more than an enjoayable edgy story. While Sword Art Online doesn't, It always tries to present a serious story, but the author simply lacks the ability to choose what's important. Whenever he tries to do something interesting, he always botches his own plans by shoving several unnecessary elements in the mix.
SAO has gotten a lot better in that regard, Alicization's LN arc was I'd say around a good 6.5-7.5, pretty enjoyable, but it's just those little things that he keeps throwing in either for fanservice or harem building that, like you said, dock off some of the points that he got from the good parts. But again, much better than the prior arcs.
You have read the Arifureta light novel right and can you pls agree that the light novel 2 is literally a cringy festival and have you already read the web novel bruh
I can say having read the Web Novel. The after stories are hilarious and the author doesn't really seem to care about time lines he just writes as he writes and thats the best thing to do. I rather enjoyed arifureta in most adaptations it honestly was my intro to isekai genre now im reading tensei slime.
I had watched SAO as an 8 y.o kid back in 2014...I honestly enjoyed it... Rewatched it in 2018...I honestly Still liked it. .at least the first season. I just don't know now...I haven't tried to rewatch it yet. After gaining a lot of knowledge...I don't know if I'll still like it ...
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the appeal of seeing over-powered characters was seeing the dynamics of how other characters react to them. What's the point of making an over-powered character and then sticking him at the bottom of a cave forever, away from any of the other established characters?
I find the idea of isolating your MC from the world to be a strong point if used properly. Arifureta does it terribly, but imagine Mob in Mob Psycho 100: a child that under the wrong guidance, could have been a terrible killing machine. Instead you get a character with so much emotion, depth, despair, etc, that you don't even mind the awesome animation. I can say for certainty that I was always looking forward to the growth of Mob as a person, and the fights were just there. Arifureta doesn't do that. In fact, it wasn't until LN 3 that Hajime's life choice of "get in my way, and I will crush you" was questioned by his Teacher. I think the creator of Arifureta just didn't create a story or characters that deserve more thought put into their characteristics, because it will just make you compare them to better examples.
@squelette fainéants That is true. When you think about what Hajime has to do to complete his goal of "getting back home with Yue", what does that mean for interacting with the world? NOTHING. NOT A GOD DAMN THING. He needs nothing and no one from the world. He has no attachment to it outside of Yue. Sure people are joining him, but even compared to Kirito that was LOCKED INSIDE SAO, he has even LESS DEPTH THAN HIM. You have to try really hard to have less depth than Kirito, and our Author for Arifureta did that 10/10.
There's a reason comics usually feature a villain of the body, a big tough guy to beat up, and then behind them, higher, more importantly... a villain of the mind. Superman can deal with an almost unlimited quantity of punching, but Lex Luthor has a lot of power in our society through his money and fame, and that's not even when people are electing him President.
Episode 5, character has reached the APEX of his power. At this point he's a demi-god with no one to rival him. The anime, the manga, the light novel, is OVER, there is nowhere for him to grow, nothing to achieve, no one to become. He is the supreme being of this 'other world.' So why would anyone give half a shit about the story from this point forward?
@@00Atomsk00 Do I have to wait through 3 seasons to get another 'dangerous' fight? I'll be honest, I'm not willing to invest that much of my life into someone's power fantasy. Also, the character seems hollow and just douchy. I understand being angry at the people who did him harm, 'a la Shield Hero' but being angry at everyone and pointing a gun at people whom you've never met, that just means he's a dick. See, there's a distinction between pointing a gun at people who have done you harm and pointing a gun at people desperately begging for your help. It's the difference between a protagonist and a scumbag.
I'll be honest. I think I enjoyed the little whodunnit murder mystery when they were still in Aincrad. Like, out of everything in SAO, I think that I only really enjoyed that.
It's interesting how a lot of anitubers and their fans (myself included) insist that a premise is the least important part of whether a show is good, but as this video more or less lays out it can still be a strong determiner of whether a show is popular. Most people who watch anime aren't enthusiasts and just want to chill out and watch cool shit, and it seems that studios have gotten great at leveraging the hype machine to greatly increase the chances of popularity regardless of what more critical viewers think of it.
i think it is just as important. if the basic idea was not really interessting and good,then good writing wont fix that problem. you did your best,but you cant elavate something that people dont care about on principle except if you make it a parody.
As someone who often gets interested in things mainly due to the premise, I think that a line should be drawn between the ideas "good" and "enjoyable." As Digi acknowledges in this video, Arifureta is fun to watch specifically because it's "so bad it's good." Likewise, even without diving into stories that are ironically enjoyable, I think that different people like different things, and that many of those people enjoy certain things enough that the presence of said things can redeem an otherwise bad story. For example, I really enjoy time travel stories and I'm likely to get invested in a story if it involves an element of time travel. However, I also acknowledge that time travel is pretty much inherently fucky to write and that there's a decent chance that any given time travel story will go to shit at some point. Someone who doesn't feel strongly about time travel probably wouldn't give a fucky-sounding story a chance and/or wouldn't enjoy it for all the things that would make it bad, whereas for me the inclusion of time travel would generally make me enjoy it more than its writing really deserves. Put differently, it would take a lot more for me to drop a time travel story than it would for me to drop a different type of story. I think that's true for many people, and is one of the reasons why premise or genre can often be more important than overall quality. I think this applies to a lot of things, which is why personal taste goes into how one views stories as much or more than whether or not something is "good" or "bad." Digi, for example, is a big fan of moe shows, whereas I more or less hate moe. Digi can watch and love a moe slice-of-life show so long as it is well-written and has good characters, whereas moe and slice-of-life are both so boring to me as concepts that even when presented with a show that does them well I usually can't bring myself to care. This kind of Isekai show is basically just that in reverse: the writing and characters aren't very good, but for the people who like it it really hits the few things that make them really invested. Since Digi doesn't have that thing that makes her care, and is also someone who is just inherently more analytical and who is unlikely to give a show much slack even if it includes some ideas she really likes, shows like SAO and Arifureta are of no use to her unless, like Arifureta, they're produced badly and can therefore work as cringe comedies.
That's cause he dropped the anime of shield hero I think. Also Shield Hero anime did not follow the novels properly and presented the story in a lighthearted harem which is not the case in the novels or the manga.
Pros of Arifureta over SAO: Even side characters in Arifureta have more personality than Kirito and his harem (the harem characters actually have some value in the story later on power wise) Arifureta has the decency to end it's main story after the plot is concluded rather than coming up with new bull shit arcs (ala gun gale and alicization) The harem members in Hajime's party get him to soften up over time and start accepting people rather than continuing the isolationist mentality that he developed in the abyss (which is why Yue allows him to have a harem) Also Hajime is one of the best Harem MCs by virtue of note being a spineless indecisive bitch It's subtle but Arifureta also critiques heroism a bit, Kouki who is supposed to be the generic, idealistic isekai hero is useless AF throughout the entire story, whereas Hajime is edgy, doesn't give a shit about people, and violent ends up helping more people and doing more good than Kouki who has the literal job class of "hero"
Omg I agree with you 100%. I mean Hajime has actual character development, and the side characters contribute to moving the story along, whereas Kirito stays the same and the side characters of SAO only contribute useless conversations that slow the progression of the story.
Thank god someone read the source material and can someone pls agree with me that the Light novel 2 is literally a cringe festival it is soo cringy that i almost want to skip that volume 2 soo much
arifureta because sao got turned into sao abridged which is good, but if u mean the thousand year old vampire loli and useless rabbit and darkness dragon versus sao including that one time where tentacle hentai and that other time where tentacle hentai and that other time where the villain kills you by kissing you or something, i'd say ari is better.
I am not claiming that the Arifureta light novels are incredible, or even good... but I think 'terrible' is taking things very, very slightly too far. The action writing is... okay... and the nature of the relationship between Hajime, Yue and Shea is interesting and at least slightly different to many other harem-esque stories. Hajime and Yue have an incredibly unhealthy codependant relationship and they're both fully aware of that. Shea, despite attaching herself to Hajime so firmly from the moment they are introduced, very clearly never has a chance with him until Yue explicitly, and for good reason, gives her permission. As for the matter of Hajime becoming the world's strongest... well, his enemy is God, and it's worth noting that, unlike many stories of its kind, Hajime's entire party is completely broken rather than him alone being OP. So yeah, it's not great by any stretch of the information, and it's absolutely clear that the anime is hot flaming garbage, but I don't think the light novels are 'terrible'.
So basically the appeal of Arifureta: 1. Explicit endgame is fighting God, so there's room to be overpowered while still having the potential for tension. 2. The harem anime has an actual harem instead of just a bunch of dumb crushes. 3. Creative application of superpowers is my jam, from Luffy's Gears to Mami making flintlock rifles out of ribbons. 4. The whole thing plays out like a D&D campaign with a permissive DM and players gleefully exploiting the rules with the main goal of dicking around.
My favorite thing is stopping the video at the scene where the bunnygirl runs from the monster to fully appreciate how she's been drawn with tiny T-Rex arms.
You're tone in this video I think will make what have to say more palatable than what you said about shinsekai Yori. (Granted that series is more beloved but you get my point) So great job my dude. Hopefully people can enjoy this and understand it without losing their minds
While the first book and a half definitely show that the author is still figuring out this writing thing, the rest of the series makes it evident that "awesomely bad"is part of what he is going for. I am baffled that they skipped the set up for the whole rest of the series which is laid out by the ghost at the bottom of the dungeon.
Mild spoiler warning? I felt the same way about the lack of tension starting with the Fairy arc in SAO, I didn't really feel the stakes until Alicization when Kirito's death could have been, and were to him, permanent if he died in the game. But at least we'd gotten a full season of Kirito maybe dying! Don't get me wrong, I had no belief the standard monsters on the surface would be even a threat to him as if they were then the dungeons would have been cleared long, long ago or humanity would have been wiped out. I hope the lack of tension will cease once they enter a dungeon again. I admit I really liked the... grit? When the MC was clawing his way up to power and using the abilities he stole from the monsters. The problem I realize now is that it's only a temporary joy. t this point he has eaten so much and gained so much power that aside from really specific boss abilities he isn't likely to have another learning/growth arc. I won't say he's 'capped' but he's pretty close it feels like. I feel like spending much, much longer in the dungeon would have been a good move. Maybe have his classmates start catching up with him and they start to see and acknowledge the evidence of his survival and forward momentum into the dungeon before he actually gets out.
I'm sorry... but when they started using the term "Beater", I was no longer able to take SAO seriously. I take the god damned Abridged version more seriously than the best of the original.
To be clear, arifureta author is extra chill, and the guy knows what it does, he openly admitted he writtes with as much as edge, cringe and wishfullfilment as possible for.the market he has, which speaks louder of the fanbase, i checked the books and he clearly is consistent in that, and says so in his afterwords at the end of each volume, which baffles how writting so "badly" actually worked for him
Honestly, I had high hopes in the anime when I was reading the novel. I had imagined how the animations in the anime will flow very smoothly like the narration in the novel
Liked Alicization a lot better than the previous. Not that it doesn't have its problems too... - the whole rape scene. Idk, I just felt like it was lazy/cheap. The reason for that scene was so that Eugeo could break the taboo index. But really? Saving girls from getting raped is just... Something anyone would do? Hence, it didn't feel personal. It didn't do anything for Eugeo as a character. It was lazy plot convenience. - Administrator brainwashing Eugeo. Felt too easy. Eugeo should have been captured and "re-programmed" against his will. This would make Kirito feel guilty for not protecting him. Or at least been given a reason to feel like no one loved him. Like... If he broke the taboo index over something different, over something more morally gray... The girls (Tiese and Roni) would condemn him, and only Kirito would support his decision (since the other characters are also bound by the taboo index, but Kirito is not). But Eugeo would be worried about his best friend leaving once the "journey" is over. That fear and insecurity would be exploited by Administrator. - Cardinal dying No. Just no. That was pointless. - People turning into weapons Just stop, wtf this ain't Sould Eater. - Kirito being pretty useless when Eugeo went against Administrator Didn't feel much like he "failed" to save Eugeo, cause... You know... He was just standing there. At least try, dude... Like the beginning best. Kirito and Eugeo being bros. No hoes. Great time.
Tbh most Isekai animes are trash but I love them anyway. The more raunchy and lighthearted the better to me. I am only in it to watch cute girls be cute
2:00 I think your discussion right here about "surface level" is what makes Arifureta so terrible. You and I (I don't mind the LNs, quite like em) both know there is nothing below the surface. We have seen MANY, MANY examples where our shows/LNs/Mangas have gone from "surface level" to "deep". .....and Arifureta doesn't do that. It is a shallow puddle. For me, I don't mind that. I keep up with "The Irregular at Magic High School" (hell I cannot even keep up with the sheer amount of 'SCIENCE BITCH' in the Light Novels) as well as a few other series, and I have to say, Arifureta being just surface level works to a degree. The complexity, I personally believe, wouldn't help this story because it can't. It's not capable. Story just ain't there. For one such as your self Digi, I can see why Arifureta is shit. You are 100% right on that. It is a shallow show/book/manga. What becomes a problem is in a SHALLOW STORY NEEDS TO BE SHORTENED. Why! What reason is there to skip so much of Shea's introduction in episode 6? Why make a show that is already REALLY SHALLOW, MORE SHALLOW! Did you know that the parts of episode 6 (Shea's introduction) was meant to show two things about Hajime and Yue: 1. How strong they were from their time in the Labyrinth. 2. How broken their moral compass was when dealing with humans/beastmen/monsters. I fear this pattern will only continue with the remaining 7 episodes, and that is what upsets the LN/Manga reader community (1 of these is an OVA, so they may just go 12 and then later get that 13th).
I think arifureta does have a lot of merit not as A show to be taken seriously but more as Somewhere between a hate watch and a A laugh riot at Question this show asks which is just how edgy can this high-school edgefic of an anime possibly get. It is trash you play in the background of the hotel room at a con more then sonething you site down to watch.. and there's no 2 ways about it, it is just straight up garbage And I am not defending it. But I can see why people like it despite it being a hot wet semi solid coil.
Arifureta was my favourite manga so I was excited to see it getting an adaptation... The first 12 minutes of the anime gave me depression and I haven't watched anime since then. Please help
What really hurt me this anime season is that Arifureta is more popular than Vinland saga.It wasn't the bad storytelling or the laughable CGI that made me drop that mess.It was the fact it was more popular than one if not the best anime to come out this season and that i cannot forgive.
-Started the cursed trend of LN isekais. Is not quite an Isekai itself, but the popularity of it contributed for FLOODING the market with bad LN Isekais who are copy-pasting the formula, to this day. -Harem-but-not-really-a-harem boogaloo. Yes, he HAS a gf, but all girls he saves fall in love with him, and stay around, aside from evil girl from S3 and AIDS-girl from Mother Rosario. -gross fetishes in Fairy Dance (tentacles, NTR-attempt, lowkey incest) -1 attempted rape every single season (Sugou, Shinkawa, blonde fuck), even Kawahara apologized for it. -Villains are not deep and/or sympathethic (Quinella was a little amusing, and that's it), just 1-D crazy boorish maniacs. -Wasted potential, above everything; imagine a 25 epi anime on Aincrad, with the whole die in game, die in real world tension. Imagine then, Kirito getting stronger as the time goes by, not lol-1epi-timeskips and boom, level 45, then 75 in the next, and sometimes needing help to win fights. Imagine a focus on the people inside building a entire new society from scratch inside the game (Log Horizon kinda did that). Imagine Silica and Lizbeth being constant presences around (instead of 1 episode standalones to just join the discount-harem later on), and Sachi group not dying in the same episode she's introduced. Or Fairy Dance without all that weird shit. Some hate on it to this day because of disappointment -Well, some people hate on it because of Mothers Sellout and Digipony made it kind of a meme to shittalk it. Some randoms do it do it for the meme, ignoring many of their most common used points ("power-fantasy", "wish-fullfilment", "Gary-Stu", "plot-armor") count for their favorite shows /lol
Around the 12 minute mark he talks about what will happen, and the anime's scope of time is screwed, so his assumptions are completely valid. My favorite example, compared to the book, is his time before consuming monster meat. He had already spent weeks while he was starving, only held together by the ambrosia, constantly hungry and unable to sleep due to the pain. His mental breakdown was far more from physical and mental trauma from weeks of conscious pain than from anything to do with his past or even people in general. Those things are more states as what he's throwing away than as the actual cause. However, after reading the full story it's more of a roller coaster. Although he is strong and wants to treat anyone who stands in his way as an enemy, the story becomes a lot about him re-learning how to deal with others, re-connecting somewhat his his own humanity, when to use his strength and when not to, then later on shit really hits the fan with his classmates, and more things go sideways that strain even him and his entourage. The 1st season supposedly was rushed due to a studio change, so here's hoping we'll get a properly fleshed out 2nd season.
As someone who has read up to LN 8 of arifureta , I will say LN 2 was probably my least favorite, but I still hate that the anime glossed over a third of the book. But a lot of the good stuff of that book happens towards the end and we get to see Shea's worth to the group. SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT PART OF THE STORY After that, LN 3 takes a break from the dungeons and we see a new addition to the group along with Hajime annihilating a giant army and actually killing the person who started it (a classmate). LN 4 is probably my second least favorite because of the middle part we spend with the other classmates. It's goes on forever. The beginning where Hajime takes down a whole criminal underworld to help free a Dagon girl and the ending where Hajime and co rescue the classmates and Kaori joins them were the big highs. LN 5 starts to get good and we even get 2 new dungeons and a lot of build up for a bigger fight in the next book. LN 6 is a giant battle, a lot of stuff happens, there are more character deaths and it actually ended up being near the top of my favorites in the series. LN 7 is smaller story, but really gives Shea and the Haulia tribe time to really shine as they basically overthrow an empire for the sake of the other beastmen. LN 8 we go through another dungeon, but with some of the classmates. Kouki is freaking annoying in all of these for various reasons and he really slows down the story. But at the end, Hajime actually accepts Shea as a lover. They've grown a lot as characters since they've been introduced and rely on each other enough that Hajime sees Shea as important as Yue. And from what I've heard in the web novel, Hajime actually accepts the harem ending. So yea, a little rant, but it also goes to show that even when a series has a low point, give it time to build up and develop the characters and you get some awesome moments
It's not really common that a character accept the harem isn't it? Generally they chose 1 girl (as Kirito as far as i went) or don't chose anyone, either way i'm really into Arifureta's characters so i'm eager to see the rest
. I replayed to a comment on your video (I think it was part 1) that my biggest fear was the pacing of this anime because we saw in OP character that introduced much later as Tio which we'll see in the next episode at this rate. I didn't imagine that the problem was this big. Skipping things that explains why he took Shelia with him (She was disowned by her family and then the family was kicked out the village and Shelia still wanted to protect them despite being disowned). Next episode you'll ask why he even talks to the teacher and tells her to fuck off or even confirms he's Hajime? (Because of the arc they skipped about bunny people becoming so violent and blinded by rage that even Hajime was disgusted by it and btw it was a full arc with the village) The WN and LN is far from great but at least it make sense while the Anime looks like compilation of great moments without any context.
Uhm... what's the source @ 2:27? I feel like I should know this but I can't quite put my finger on it. I would like to hear your opinion on "Moon-led Journey Across Another World" if you happen to read it.
I always liked the side stories in the Aincrad arc of SAO; seeing how various people coped with and handled the situation was far more interested than seeing how Kirito did, and Kirito was at his best when he was more of a deus ex machina for others' stories than when he was the star of his own.
This is so true, it reminds me of Shield Hero. It had an mature/edgy episode 1 to 4 but took a sharp turn back to isekai power fantasy harem anime from episode 5 onwards. I still liked it but it was those initial episodes that hooked me in really hard.
As much as I bash on Sao, Arifureta is the worst. Anime wise, I love the hell out of the manga but to give credit to sao. The anime of that series at least had better animation and action. Edit: I don't care what anyone says, the manga of Arifureta is awesomely good. Not the greatest, and definitely not bad, but fun and interesting
This is the kind of stuff I seriously worry might happen to a webnovel I personally really enjoy, now I might sound stereotypical, and I'd entirely understand if people do not trust my statement, but I find the Chinese webnovel by the name (horrible I know) "Release that Witch", to be an absolutely awesome story. This one is getting an anime, though I seriously worry that it won't do it justice, in part because the premise would be very difficult to genuinely do justice, and in part because the trailer seems to convey a completely different story. In this case though I do belive that the subject matter is actually good, whereas I don't believe it ever was with SAO, or Arifureta (for the record I've been reading webnovels for quite a few years now, and I must admit I've seen many stories which would go on to be the "hot new anime of the season", be praised to the skies, and whenever I tried (or oftentimes even just read the synopsis), I found them to be so generic, that I honestly cannot fathom why people claim that they're different than the rest. An important point to make though, is that a story doesn't have to be different to be enjoyable, it just has to satisfy your subjective desires and requirements of a story, which to me neither Arifureta, Death March, or even such stories as a Overlord ever accomplished, to me they're quite ordinary, because while they might be slightly darker, or more violent, the general writing quality and care and attention put into the story, is just as blandly little as in all the others. To close out my rant, I believe one of the next "great overly hyped anime" that people will see will be: Saihate no Paladin, or Paladin of the End. A story that has an amazing intro, but (I've been told), will be getting a lot more generic with time, which is seriously sad. So in conclusion if ANYONE should desire to write a story, don't just "wing it", 'cause "winging it" will lead to what might be a good premise, but without proper character and worldbuilding, your story will fall apart, propably even quite quickly.
Ohgod i hope theynever make an anime out oft release that witch cause it will never live up to the novel ! The story is kinda unique in all the chinese novels .
@@op4000exe ah hi i know wich trailer u mean ... I have good and Bad news for you ... The trailer u saw was From an chinese anime Studio AS a promo that send it to the copyrights holder to get the rights for making the anime of RTW ... Sadly the license holders fucked up the deal and With that all the talk about the anime (even different Studios distanced themself Form that company). So sadly no anime :(
When they announced Arifureta I expected them to focus on the core plot in order to get through the material in 12 episodes. 1 episode for setup, 3 in the Orcus labyrinth, 1 in town, 2 in Reisen, 3 saving Ur, and last episode Hajime's saving of the Hero party from the ambush in the first Labyrinth. Instead, we had two episodes of pure expositional episodes, and one on the Haluia, a plot which is ancillary to the story and could have been done in a few minutes.
Honestly, what you said about the ‘1 great cathartic scene’ really got to heart of why I kept reading Arifureta for 150 FUCKING CHAPTERS, even though I was amazingly bored after the first 20. That scene is so well written and so tense and exciting, with so much buildup, that sometimes I read arifureta just for that scene. And then I keep reading, knowing that it’s shit.
Just got past episode 9 of, record of grancrest war and it completely crushed my enjoyment of the series and Made me start seeing that up to their it might’ve been bad as well. As one of the three great anime TH-cam kings I would like to know your thoughts? Ps i’m specifically talking of the sex scene where with the queen at the end
Bob Bob No offense, seriously don’t take this in an offensive way but why the hell do people call a show trash only for having a sex scene? This is a serious question from me. I don’t understand why people get pissed of about seeing a sex scene in a show and I don’t understand how it ruins a show at all. In my opinion you guys are just being sensitive about this topics being shown in stories.
I don’t usually care it just took me by surprise if you would are telling me that the second half of the season is as good as the first half then I’ll totally watch it Through to the end
I was waiting For Arifureta since it was first announce. I've been reading the manga since ch.1. Now imagine my reaction to the anime when it came out. Take your rage for S3 of Seven Deadly Sins animation and multiple it by 10.
they skipped a scene where the protagonist made more than a dozen humans "not living". he "not lived" humans for the first time. They also skipped the entirety of the beastmen country of verbergen. and the majority of bunny "bulli" and rubber bullets "bulli"
I think part of the problem with the Alo Arc is that Western audiences for the most part do not totally grasp the concept of arranged marriages or the situation that could in theory happen to Asuna. It certainly may not seem to rise to the level of death and yet Kirito still using a nerve gear was he not. Because of that the level of drama could not quite ever rise as far, and I think that's why the fairy art was not is interesting fun though it might have been. By the time you get to GGO and death gun some of that realism appears to return but you have this nagging feeling in your head that the hero is going to find a way to win this at the end somehow he's going to add see not do his ever-expanding online harem. It's just not quite clear how how that happens because sinon seems to be a strong character but really that strength is a facade. It's like in most trilogies the sequel is not always better and the third installment repeat things seen in the first episode and therefore is not as original. For the alicization Art's it clearly became just about eye candy at that point and not necessarily for the characters but the strange new powers of the week that the heroes were up against. But at that point I felt invested in the characters and wanted to know how this ended
Arifureta is a story about the lowly freshman who no one cared enough to help. Then whenever he raises to the top everyone wants HIS help. However, he says, fuck that, unless my vampire waifu says so. There's better grudge stories out there, but at least this train wreck came packed with colorful fireworks.
So basically, ignore the swarms of the Arifureta reddit telling me the LN is better than the WN because they're both so shit it really doesn't matter what you read.
0:30 And this my friends is "One Punch Man" in a nutshell. At first, it WAS epically amazing as a "put your brain outside of your room" and enjoy the special effects show! But now......Season 2 was released and.....oh, how the mighty have fallen. -_-
Did I mentioned the anime skipped half of the volume in the latest episode which contains a lot of politics stuff and build up for the future ? Also the stuff that skipped actually was supposed to built up the relationship between Hajime and Shia. I think the hate toward the ln is unjustified. I get that this adaptation is horrible but the original story does have some potential in it. It’s not a masterpiece but it does have good and entertaining story. Btw arifureta( ln ) has multiple points in the story which impact the story heavily. I don’t think that the abyss is the only impactful thing in the story that the story later gets its fuel. I can point at least two. The manga itself skipped some stuff according to what I know. I didn’t read it yet.
I just read the manga (and i follow the anime) and even from my point of view i have the impression that they rush things too much in the anime,they skipped too much
I hear you Digi I really do, but it's like telling me why fast-food burgers are bad for my health. Im going to eat them anyway.
Hey you got to have some standards tho dont eat a shit burger
You'd do yourself good to kick that mindset my man. I say this knowing I'm a random guy on youtube you've never met, but I figure its always good to encourage people.
Fast-food burgers need to be tasty to be eaten. Arifureta makes my eyes want to vomit.
I guess the fact that I’m a vegan is why I drop all the bad shit.
Thats a nice way of thinking
For a sec I was like "wait what SAO wasnt bad" but then I realized the abridged wasnt the actual anime.
I'm grateful for sao without it we would never gotten the abridge version :)
What? No! Of course the anime was good! Of course...
*Thor smug whisper* Of course.
Abridged series is together with TH-camrs shitfest about original show my only experience with SAO. Thank gods!
during the video I was literally like "but there ARE other dramatic moments like Sachi's death" but then I remembered the original anime didnt flesh Sashi out enough for people to even remember her name, and is never mentioned again.
I legit can't see clips of SAO without the abridged series playing in my head anymore. It's a wonderful curse.
"Cult of cucks" Yeah I'm keeping that one.
e-girl stans
They might have banged in the light novels but being naked in bed in the morning while not having done the deed so to speak was not a new idea even when arifuretafirst came out!!!
Title Sounds Like
Emokid vs Edgelord
Trainwreck vs Dumpster Fire
Cancer vs Cholera
I can't even
As someone who read the manga, I actually liked post-escape more. I couldn't stop laughing reading that shit, it's a certain brand of edge that is endlessly hilarious to me.
Jay Terra I mean it was more enjoyable for me for the same reasons you said, it was bad before but i couldn’t stop thinking it was comedy when he pulls out an even bigger/darker gun to fight an even more spikey monster
Pre-escape?
The parts I keep coming back to are actually the after story, which put this wild bunch into some truly rediculus situations.
Yeah arifureta is basically just dumb fun
Only the Vol 2 contents are bad. Vol 3 and on is wish fulfillment fantasy at its best
It would’ve been funny if the bunny was actually going to be the world’s strongest instead of kaneki 2.0
"Even dinosaurs are here!!"
-someone in Arifureta, probably
Ah, a Garzey's Wing reference. Truly a weeb of culture.
And they will be so generic and outdated as ever!
To be fair, SAO gave us SAO Abridged, which is superior to it's source material in every single way.
...............
Review the Abridged Series.
And don't forget "SAO in 5 minutes" lol
SAO Abridged is the best thing since sliced bread. And I was fuckin hype for sliced bread.
SAO abridged is in my top 10 anime of all time. Yes, I'm counting it as an anime. Yes, it is up there with FMA:B and Attack on Titan S3P2
Until it got canceled because SAO Aliciziation was so boring.
He should wait to review it until they finish season 1. So look for that around 2035 or so.
Before digibro I watched trash , now after digibro I understand why I watch trash , thanks you digi your doing God’s work
Honestly as much as it pains me to admit, SAO at least has a decent tier animation, not those cgi static shots, and like, Yue literally is supposed to be a vampire so strong that there was no way to kill her, but then she gets released from her seal for her to get kidnapped and thrown around having to rely on a HUMAN to "save" her? lit, it makes no sense
animation wont save your anime from being shit
I'm actually sick of the massive oversaturation of cute girls in anime. Shoot me.
we need quality over quantity.
Arifureta may be bad from a critical perspective and it honestly feels like it's on fast foward and is constantly skipping multiple chapters of content even more so than SAO but I enjoy it like a guilty pleasure, I love isekai and sometimes it's just fun to watch a bit of escapist trash like reading a trashy novel. I love my overlords, my tanya the evils and my log horizons but not everything has to be a masterpiece or an intellectual deconstruction of the genre.
I agree. I also feel like his relationship with his classmates have somehow made me want to stick around to see what happens.
I'm only still watching Arifureta for the moment when the MC finally get to kick his classmates' ass
@@py2396 book four and it is glorious.
@@joseph2941 I was a sucker for the Myu arc in LN 4. Thought the reuniting with the Classmates was even better.
I am always down for protecting a child in a LN. It got me to buy the "If It is for my Daugther, I would even defeat a Demon Lord".
Or well crafted I suppose?
But which is worse, arifureta or ass war?
Ass war easy
Ass war, thats not even close
I thought ass war was the war arc of naruto
@Matt Wongkondee Worse harem but understanding MC. Ass War on the other hand has DENSE generic protagonist. No matter how good of harem list is, it became useless if the MC is DENSE
Definitely Ass War
*Yue is more than attractive enough*
I too like my girls looking exactly as they did when they popped out of the womb /s
Looks like white haired guy just doesn't like legal looking ladies.
He likes his 300 year old loli's
A trait he shares with Digi.
the major problems with arifureta, and to the most part, most of the isekai genre, is that, by overpowering the main character to such an absurd level, you completely disarm any situation he has to face, so the story then requires that something else comes and take the spot.
to me, the series failed when 2 things happened, the first was when he got stronger, as opposed to smarter, had him stay physically weak, but with a power that requires him to plan, project and build the answer makes a much more interesting, and yet, all the solution are delivered more in an ass pull manner, rather than a logical evolution.
then, there was the change with the introduction of the rabbit girl, when the series stopped being about him, and became just another harem.
"So I'm a spider so what" doesn't work that way, btw. You've mentioned a few times that spider girl is just like slime isekai or Arifureta where she gains abilities from the things she eats, but that is not the case as far as i know. She doesn't eat things and gain it's abilities. She eats things and occasionally gains abilities from the act of eating and she sometimes gains abilities from fighting monsters, but the spider doesn't gain skills from the things she eats. It has a completely different. skill point/experience based system. She only eats things to gain stamina, but I understand your confusion because they do mention her eating a lot.
This is why good anime is an endangered species
dude demon slayer...
@@kingsosa5253 Demon Slayer has practically no merit beyond flashy fight scenes and cool animation.
G.Stoppard Neon Genesis Evangelion, Monster, Any of the Berserk adaptations that’s not 2016, Psycho Pass, Fate/Zero, Madoka Magica, Made In Abyss, Fullmetal Alchemist (2003).
vAqeii Vinland saga this season: Am I a joke to you? Ok all jokes aside there is definitely still some good anime coming out or at least decent, Vinland Saga is on the greatness part of things tho.
@@Wallie33. I mean, I'm a filthy casual so I don't know what my opinion is worth but I'm finding Cop Craft, Astra: Lost in Space, and Dr. Stone to be pretty good. Particularly the latter two. Cop Craft might've been my number one if it weren't for that generic ass betrayal they pulled early on. I'd give a spoiler warning but if you saw it and were genuinely surprised then you've never seen a cop show or movie before.
Arifureta: What if Kirito went full Guts.
*Discounted Kaneki
@@栗栖が萌じゃない *Bargain bin Haseo
Basically Kaneki in an isekei fantasy rather then in a realistic sci fi setting.
@@ultraoverloadx9333 Eh, I think that's doing Kaneki a disservice. At least by the end of the first season you can understand why Kaneki becomes a white-haired edgelord. Like, there was something of a journey there.
This guy gets fucked over by *one* classmate and thinks "The obvious lesson to be learned form this is that the world and everyone in it can go fuck themselves, I'll do anything I can to live and go back home, and I'll kill anyone who gets in my way".
Like dude, chill. I'm pretty sure most of your class were decent people who appreciated your sacrifice. No need to go full nihilist cause of one shithead.
@@Ninjastoned noice
The other bigger problem is that Ari feretta is a victim of appearing at a time when it seems like every Studio has multiple of animes like this they start to look the same begin to not necessarily feel as distinctive
And that’ fact is suppose to Make this show better?! Like how?
I doubt the MC having a gun makes it stand out at this point.
Even if this anime had a strong start, that bunny twat would have eliminated any trace of interest I would have had in the show.
You're not even ready for the dragon girl xd
I dropped the series (light novel) when it started to become another cliche harem. I don't hate harem but I do think it is completely out of both Yue and Hajime's character to accept many more romance relationships.
@@aquathewise7838 that sounds sad. i actually kinda liked shea as a character and made me wish she was in a better story
@@TheMagictinou OH FOR F*CK SAKE COME ON CAN THEY NOT JUST MAKE A F*CKIN' ISEKAI WITH A WORKING ROMANCE WITHOUT ADDING USELESS AND TASTELESS CHARACTERS BEHIND FOR GOD'S SAKE
Pls just get rid of that...
@@九のきゅう If the characters and story are interesting, you may have sold me an anime
I kept hearing that the Arifureta light novel is good so I gave it a try. I tapped out in the first chapter. I couldn't even get past the character introductions.
lol wow, so unfortunate...
Yeah it's actually bad well the first chapter anything they skipped in the show was bad in the books after the show it actually gets pretty good let's hope the anime season 2 does come out
@@trent19 I skipped half of volume 1 due to boredom. But I love the LN after the first half of volume 1. The LN makes way more sense than the anime.
@@aubreyhuff46 Yesssss
@@trent19 Which novel is your favorite?
As someone who came from the novels I'll leave a warning here, don't worry it's nothing serious. Most comments you're going to read about the series are very polarizing, you either love or hate Arifureta. I'll go futher and say that some people who dislike Arifureta are a bit too extreme, or simply misunderstood the series. I've been looking for other things of the same author and I've come to the conclusion that his works are not to be taken literallly or seriously. Well, the Author's pen name itself tells you that, as it practically means, "Look, I'm Edgy"(this is an interpretation, not a translation of his name). This invalidates some of the worse comments about the novel. That said, I did enjy Arifureta a lot, if you know that it's not meant to be taken seriously, this changes the whole perspective about what some people deemed as a "fall from grace". Most people like the Labyrith arc but didn't like some of the things that happens afterwards. And this is the reason.
End of warning.
That said, I'd say Arifureta is easily a better work compared to Sword Art online. Why, becauser Arifureta knows it's place and value, it never pretends to be more than an enjoayable edgy story. While Sword Art Online doesn't, It always tries to present a serious story, but the author simply lacks the ability to choose what's important. Whenever he tries to do something interesting, he always botches his own plans by shoving several unnecessary elements in the mix.
SAO has gotten a lot better in that regard, Alicization's LN arc was I'd say around a good 6.5-7.5, pretty enjoyable, but it's just those little things that he keeps throwing in either for fanservice or harem building that, like you said, dock off some of the points that he got from the good parts. But again, much better than the prior arcs.
Facts
Digi would probably disagree on the improvement part, but it's your opinion so that's fair.
You have read the Arifureta light novel right and can you pls agree that the light novel 2 is literally a cringy festival and have you already read the web novel bruh
I can say having read the Web Novel. The after stories are hilarious and the author doesn't really seem to care about time lines he just writes as he writes and thats the best thing to do. I rather enjoyed arifureta in most adaptations it honestly was my intro to isekai genre now im reading tensei slime.
I had watched SAO as an 8 y.o kid back in 2014...I honestly enjoyed it...
Rewatched it in 2018...I honestly Still liked it. .at least the first season.
I just don't know now...I haven't tried to rewatch it yet. After gaining a lot of knowledge...I don't know if I'll still like it ...
Gotta hand it to SAO for absolutely killing video game isekai settings for me and the industry.
but there was no indrustry before sao. There was a few shows but not an indrustry
Sort of unrelated but I don't understand how people can shit on SAO then turn around and praise Slime. It's really on the same level of mediocrity.
@loafhero This, this comment is underrated. It's all about oversaturation of one genre that makes you feel fed up despite having some good ones.
op is the proof that Digi's fans are idiots afterall
I can't wait until somebody makes an anime from Solo Leveling and fu***ing it up. The Manhwa is awesome and the light novel is greate^^
Yes
Yea and solo leveling isn't a manga it's a manhwa
The solo leveling novel series is awesome
Silvius IKR
“Anime was a mistake” - a tired old man who saw a lack of creativity and fresh ideas
Yes it was even Cheat Magician was a mistake too bro
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the appeal of seeing over-powered characters was seeing the dynamics of how other characters react to them. What's the point of making an over-powered character and then sticking him at the bottom of a cave forever, away from any of the other established characters?
Don’t watch too many of those or you get sick of it, I know many people who hate op character anime due to watching too many.
I find the idea of isolating your MC from the world to be a strong point if used properly.
Arifureta does it terribly, but imagine Mob in Mob Psycho 100: a child that under the wrong guidance, could have been a terrible killing machine. Instead you get a character with so much emotion, depth, despair, etc, that you don't even mind the awesome animation. I can say for certainty that I was always looking forward to the growth of Mob as a person, and the fights were just there.
Arifureta doesn't do that. In fact, it wasn't until LN 3 that Hajime's life choice of "get in my way, and I will crush you" was questioned by his Teacher. I think the creator of Arifureta just didn't create a story or characters that deserve more thought put into their characteristics, because it will just make you compare them to better examples.
@squelette fainéants That is true. When you think about what Hajime has to do to complete his goal of "getting back home with Yue", what does that mean for interacting with the world?
NOTHING. NOT A GOD DAMN THING. He needs nothing and no one from the world. He has no attachment to it outside of Yue. Sure people are joining him, but even compared to Kirito that was LOCKED INSIDE SAO, he has even LESS DEPTH THAN HIM.
You have to try really hard to have less depth than Kirito, and our Author for Arifureta did that 10/10.
There's a reason comics usually feature a villain of the body, a big tough guy to beat up, and then behind them, higher, more importantly... a villain of the mind. Superman can deal with an almost unlimited quantity of punching, but Lex Luthor has a lot of power in our society through his money and fame, and that's not even when people are electing him President.
Cult of cucks is a good way to start the morning
Soooo.... Full Metal Alchemist >>> SAO > Arifureta (FUN with some dumpshit: Arifureta > SAO) >x∞ shinsekai Yori
Let's agree to not mention FMA along with garbages in a sentence. It's unethical and will lower your IQ
Yes, but Digibrah already did it. idk
Episode 5, character has reached the APEX of his power. At this point he's a demi-god with no one to rival him. The anime, the manga, the light novel, is OVER, there is nowhere for him to grow, nothing to achieve, no one to become. He is the supreme being of this 'other world.' So why would anyone give half a shit about the story from this point forward?
does this make him an apex legend
@@omgomgomgd I am not sure what that refers to, please elaborate. :)
@@ericsaxon5736 it's a game
Funny you say that because he actually does get challenged by and has dangerous fights later on in the series.
@@00Atomsk00 Do I have to wait through 3 seasons to get another 'dangerous' fight? I'll be honest, I'm not willing to invest that much of my life into someone's power fantasy.
Also, the character seems hollow and just douchy. I understand being angry at the people who did him harm, 'a la Shield Hero' but being angry at everyone and pointing a gun at people whom you've never met, that just means he's a dick.
See, there's a distinction between pointing a gun at people who have done you harm and pointing a gun at people desperately begging for your help. It's the difference between a protagonist and a scumbag.
I'll be honest. I think I enjoyed the little whodunnit murder mystery when they were still in Aincrad. Like, out of everything in SAO, I think that I only really enjoyed that.
It's interesting how a lot of anitubers and their fans (myself included) insist that a premise is the least important part of whether a show is good, but as this video more or less lays out it can still be a strong determiner of whether a show is popular. Most people who watch anime aren't enthusiasts and just want to chill out and watch cool shit, and it seems that studios have gotten great at leveraging the hype machine to greatly increase the chances of popularity regardless of what more critical viewers think of it.
i think it is just as important. if the basic idea was not really interessting and good,then good writing wont fix that problem. you did your best,but you cant elavate something that people dont care about on principle except if you make it a parody.
As someone who often gets interested in things mainly due to the premise, I think that a line should be drawn between the ideas "good" and "enjoyable." As Digi acknowledges in this video, Arifureta is fun to watch specifically because it's "so bad it's good." Likewise, even without diving into stories that are ironically enjoyable, I think that different people like different things, and that many of those people enjoy certain things enough that the presence of said things can redeem an otherwise bad story. For example, I really enjoy time travel stories and I'm likely to get invested in a story if it involves an element of time travel. However, I also acknowledge that time travel is pretty much inherently fucky to write and that there's a decent chance that any given time travel story will go to shit at some point. Someone who doesn't feel strongly about time travel probably wouldn't give a fucky-sounding story a chance and/or wouldn't enjoy it for all the things that would make it bad, whereas for me the inclusion of time travel would generally make me enjoy it more than its writing really deserves. Put differently, it would take a lot more for me to drop a time travel story than it would for me to drop a different type of story. I think that's true for many people, and is one of the reasons why premise or genre can often be more important than overall quality.
I think this applies to a lot of things, which is why personal taste goes into how one views stories as much or more than whether or not something is "good" or "bad." Digi, for example, is a big fan of moe shows, whereas I more or less hate moe. Digi can watch and love a moe slice-of-life show so long as it is well-written and has good characters, whereas moe and slice-of-life are both so boring to me as concepts that even when presented with a show that does them well I usually can't bring myself to care. This kind of Isekai show is basically just that in reverse: the writing and characters aren't very good, but for the people who like it it really hits the few things that make them really invested. Since Digi doesn't have that thing that makes her care, and is also someone who is just inherently more analytical and who is unlikely to give a show much slack even if it includes some ideas she really likes, shows like SAO and Arifureta are of no use to her unless, like Arifureta, they're produced badly and can therefore work as cringe comedies.
Why is is everything in Arifureta so blown out? I feel like I'm going snowblind.
true it fucking hurts my eyes to even look at it
I'm surprised you didnt bring up shield hero. it too has a shocking episode 1 followed by an immediate shift in tone to a lighthearted harem
Woah I was just thinking that!
That's an actual good show rather then terrible, so it doesn't count.
Lol naw
That's cause he dropped the anime of shield hero I think. Also Shield Hero anime did not follow the novels properly and presented the story in a lighthearted harem which is not the case in the novels or the manga.
@@ultraoverloadx9333 Eh...that's debatable...
Pros of Arifureta over SAO:
Even side characters in Arifureta have more personality than Kirito and his harem (the harem characters actually have some value in the story later on power wise)
Arifureta has the decency to end it's main story after the plot is concluded rather than coming up with new bull shit arcs (ala gun gale and alicization)
The harem members in Hajime's party get him to soften up over time and start accepting people rather than continuing the isolationist mentality that he developed in the abyss (which is why Yue allows him to have a harem)
Also Hajime is one of the best Harem MCs by virtue of note being a spineless indecisive bitch
It's subtle but Arifureta also critiques heroism a bit, Kouki who is supposed to be the generic, idealistic isekai hero is useless AF throughout the entire story, whereas Hajime is edgy, doesn't give a shit about people, and violent ends up helping more people and doing more good than Kouki who has the literal job class of "hero"
We seem to have skipped the hero party pov, though. Also, there is arifureta zero too.
Omg I agree with you 100%. I mean Hajime has actual character development, and the side characters contribute to moving the story along, whereas Kirito stays the same and the side characters of SAO only contribute useless conversations that slow the progression of the story.
It sounds lees like hajime is a good character, and more like you just like how he diverges from the norm.
Thank god someone read the source material and can someone pls agree with me that the Light novel 2 is literally a cringe festival it is soo cringy that i almost want to skip that volume 2 soo much
I just enjoy the thorough misuse of the setting's powers.
1:09 thank you, now I´m satisfied, that´s a statement I can fully agree with.
arifureta because sao got turned into sao abridged which is good, but if u mean the thousand year old vampire loli and useless rabbit and darkness dragon versus sao including that one time where tentacle hentai and that other time where tentacle hentai and that other time where the villain kills you by kissing you or something, i'd say ari is better.
I am not claiming that the Arifureta light novels are incredible, or even good... but I think 'terrible' is taking things very, very slightly too far. The action writing is... okay... and the nature of the relationship between Hajime, Yue and Shea is interesting and at least slightly different to many other harem-esque stories.
Hajime and Yue have an incredibly unhealthy codependant relationship and they're both fully aware of that. Shea, despite attaching herself to Hajime so firmly from the moment they are introduced, very clearly never has a chance with him until Yue explicitly, and for good reason, gives her permission.
As for the matter of Hajime becoming the world's strongest... well, his enemy is God, and it's worth noting that, unlike many stories of its kind, Hajime's entire party is completely broken rather than him alone being OP.
So yeah, it's not great by any stretch of the information, and it's absolutely clear that the anime is hot flaming garbage, but I don't think the light novels are 'terrible'.
So basically the appeal of Arifureta:
1. Explicit endgame is fighting God, so there's room to be overpowered while still having the potential for tension.
2. The harem anime has an actual harem instead of just a bunch of dumb crushes.
3. Creative application of superpowers is my jam, from Luffy's Gears to Mami making flintlock rifles out of ribbons.
4. The whole thing plays out like a D&D campaign with a permissive DM and players gleefully exploiting the rules with the main goal of dicking around.
Let also mention that most of his main enemies are broken AF too.
My favorite thing is stopping the video at the scene where the bunnygirl runs from the monster to fully appreciate how she's been drawn with tiny T-Rex arms.
You're tone in this video I think will make what have to say more palatable than what you said about shinsekai Yori.
(Granted that series is more beloved but you get my point)
So great job my dude. Hopefully people can enjoy this and understand it without losing their minds
While the first book and a half definitely show that the author is still figuring out this writing thing, the rest of the series makes it evident that "awesomely bad"is part of what he is going for. I am baffled that they skipped the set up for the whole rest of the series which is laid out by the ghost at the bottom of the dungeon.
It's like asking if one infinity is greater than another infinity.
"Cult of Cucks"
I'll have to remember that one. Great word for lots of different groups.
Mild spoiler warning?
I felt the same way about the lack of tension starting with the Fairy arc in SAO, I didn't really feel the stakes until Alicization when Kirito's death could have been, and were to him, permanent if he died in the game.
But at least we'd gotten a full season of Kirito maybe dying! Don't get me wrong, I had no belief the standard monsters on the surface would be even a threat to him as if they were then the dungeons would have been cleared long, long ago or humanity would have been wiped out. I hope the lack of tension will cease once they enter a dungeon again.
I admit I really liked the... grit? When the MC was clawing his way up to power and using the abilities he stole from the monsters. The problem I realize now is that it's only a temporary joy. t this point he has eaten so much and gained so much power that aside from really specific boss abilities he isn't likely to have another learning/growth arc. I won't say he's 'capped' but he's pretty close it feels like.
I feel like spending much, much longer in the dungeon would have been a good move. Maybe have his classmates start catching up with him and they start to see and acknowledge the evidence of his survival and forward momentum into the dungeon before he actually gets out.
I'm sorry... but when they started using the term "Beater", I was no longer able to take SAO seriously.
I take the god damned Abridged version more seriously than the best of the original.
To be clear, arifureta author is extra chill, and the guy knows what it does, he openly admitted he writtes with as much as edge, cringe and wishfullfilment as possible for.the market he has, which speaks louder of the fanbase, i checked the books and he clearly is consistent in that, and says so in his afterwords at the end of each volume, which baffles how writting so "badly" actually worked for him
Honestly, I had high hopes in the anime when I was reading the novel. I had imagined how the animations in the anime will flow very smoothly like the narration in the novel
repolyo11 but the anime adaptition literary ruin it
Comparing SAO to a Thomas Pynchon novel.
Dear Christ, what has been done.
Liked Alicization a lot better than the previous. Not that it doesn't have its problems too...
- the whole rape scene.
Idk, I just felt like it was lazy/cheap. The reason for that scene was so that Eugeo could break the taboo index. But really? Saving girls from getting raped is just... Something anyone would do? Hence, it didn't feel personal. It didn't do anything for Eugeo as a character. It was lazy plot convenience.
- Administrator brainwashing Eugeo.
Felt too easy. Eugeo should have been captured and "re-programmed" against his will. This would make Kirito feel guilty for not protecting him.
Or at least been given a reason to feel like no one loved him. Like... If he broke the taboo index over something different, over something more morally gray... The girls (Tiese and Roni) would condemn him, and only Kirito would support his decision (since the other characters are also bound by the taboo index, but Kirito is not). But Eugeo would be worried about his best friend leaving once the "journey" is over. That fear and insecurity would be exploited by Administrator.
- Cardinal dying
No. Just no. That was pointless.
- People turning into weapons
Just stop, wtf this ain't Sould Eater.
- Kirito being pretty useless when Eugeo went against Administrator
Didn't feel much like he "failed" to save Eugeo, cause... You know... He was just standing there. At least try, dude...
Like the beginning best. Kirito and Eugeo being bros. No hoes. Great time.
Tbh most Isekai animes are trash but I love them anyway. The more raunchy and lighthearted the better to me. I am only in it to watch cute girls be cute
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I think your discussion right here about "surface level" is what makes Arifureta so terrible.
You and I (I don't mind the LNs, quite like em) both know there is nothing below the surface. We have seen MANY, MANY examples where our shows/LNs/Mangas have gone from "surface level" to "deep".
.....and Arifureta doesn't do that. It is a shallow puddle. For me, I don't mind that. I keep up with "The Irregular at Magic High School" (hell I cannot even keep up with the sheer amount of 'SCIENCE BITCH' in the Light Novels) as well as a few other series, and I have to say, Arifureta being just surface level works to a degree. The complexity, I personally believe, wouldn't help this story because it can't. It's not capable. Story just ain't there.
For one such as your self Digi, I can see why Arifureta is shit. You are 100% right on that. It is a shallow show/book/manga. What becomes a problem is in a SHALLOW STORY NEEDS TO BE SHORTENED. Why! What reason is there to skip so much of Shea's introduction in episode 6? Why make a show that is already REALLY SHALLOW, MORE SHALLOW!
Did you know that the parts of episode 6 (Shea's introduction) was meant to show two things about Hajime and Yue:
1. How strong they were from their time in the Labyrinth.
2. How broken their moral compass was when dealing with humans/beastmen/monsters.
I fear this pattern will only continue with the remaining 7 episodes, and that is what upsets the LN/Manga reader community (1 of these is an OVA, so they may just go 12 and then later get that 13th).
I feel like whoever watches this anime should go to OPM instead.
@@popopop984 I mean, even OPM has more depth than this puddle.
I think arifureta does have a lot of merit not as A show to be taken seriously but more as Somewhere between a hate watch and a A laugh riot at Question this show asks which is just how edgy can this high-school edgefic of an anime possibly get. It is trash you play in the background of the hotel room at a con more then sonething you site down to watch.. and there's no 2 ways about it, it is just straight up garbage And I am not defending it. But I can see why people like it despite it being a hot wet semi solid coil.
“F*cking Bethseda”
Arifureta was my favourite manga so I was excited to see it getting an adaptation...
The first 12 minutes of the anime gave me depression and I haven't watched anime since then. Please help
😂 😂 😂
Read the WN, Yw your depression is cured.
Bruh just read the web novel it will cure you i swear
What really hurt me this anime season is that Arifureta is more popular than Vinland saga.It wasn't the bad storytelling or the laughable CGI that made me drop that mess.It was the fact it was more popular than one if not the best anime to come out this season and that i cannot forgive.
I've tried to watch SAO, but I did stop at episode 10 because I got bored with the series. Now I know why. Thanks, Digibro.
SAO went to shit after Aincrad, but not that Aincrad was very good either.
Arifuretta is the room of anime
The thumbnail made me think of those before and after meth photos.
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Sorry got a little too happy top hear the name Thomas Pynchon mentioned by someone who is not me today
Arifureta is probably worse... but neither are as bad as Guilty Crown
😂 😂 😂 😂
Sao will always be my favorite anime
How about SAO Abridge?
It makes sense dissing Arifureta because the series just doesn't do the best job, but why THE FUC, does everyone hate on sao. its so good
Because it wasn't good at first. It got better.
Little to none character development?
-Started the cursed trend of LN isekais. Is not quite an Isekai itself, but the popularity of it contributed for FLOODING the market with bad LN Isekais who are copy-pasting the formula, to this day.
-Harem-but-not-really-a-harem boogaloo. Yes, he HAS a gf, but all girls he saves fall in love with him, and stay around, aside from evil girl from S3 and AIDS-girl from Mother Rosario.
-gross fetishes in Fairy Dance (tentacles, NTR-attempt, lowkey incest)
-1 attempted rape every single season (Sugou, Shinkawa, blonde fuck), even Kawahara apologized for it.
-Villains are not deep and/or sympathethic (Quinella was a little amusing, and that's it), just 1-D crazy boorish maniacs.
-Wasted potential, above everything; imagine a 25 epi anime on Aincrad, with the whole die in game, die in real world tension. Imagine then, Kirito getting stronger as the time goes by, not lol-1epi-timeskips and boom, level 45, then 75 in the next, and sometimes needing help to win fights. Imagine a focus on the people inside building a entire new society from scratch inside the game (Log Horizon kinda did that). Imagine Silica and Lizbeth being constant presences around (instead of 1 episode standalones to just join the discount-harem later on), and Sachi group not dying in the same episode she's introduced. Or Fairy Dance without all that weird shit. Some hate on it to this day because of disappointment
-Well, some people hate on it because of Mothers Sellout and Digipony made it kind of a meme to shittalk it. Some randoms do it do it for the meme, ignoring many of their most common used points ("power-fantasy", "wish-fullfilment", "Gary-Stu", "plot-armor") count for their favorite shows /lol
Well I get it might have started it, but that isnt sao's fault. Its other people's fault for copying sao
Sword Trash Online is so good at being garbage...
Around the 12 minute mark he talks about what will happen, and the anime's scope of time is screwed, so his assumptions are completely valid.
My favorite example, compared to the book, is his time before consuming monster meat. He had already spent weeks while he was starving, only held together by the ambrosia, constantly hungry and unable to sleep due to the pain. His mental breakdown was far more from physical and mental trauma from weeks of conscious pain than from anything to do with his past or even people in general. Those things are more states as what he's throwing away than as the actual cause.
However, after reading the full story it's more of a roller coaster. Although he is strong and wants to treat anyone who stands in his way as an enemy, the story becomes a lot about him re-learning how to deal with others, re-connecting somewhat his his own humanity, when to use his strength and when not to, then later on shit really hits the fan with his classmates, and more things go sideways that strain even him and his entourage.
The 1st season supposedly was rushed due to a studio change, so here's hoping we'll get a properly fleshed out 2nd season.
Good luck on 100k, dawg
As someone who has read up to LN 8 of arifureta , I will say LN 2 was probably my least favorite, but I still hate that the anime glossed over a third of the book. But a lot of the good stuff of that book happens towards the end and we get to see Shea's worth to the group.
SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT PART OF THE STORY
After that, LN 3 takes a break from the dungeons and we see a new addition to the group along with Hajime annihilating a giant army and actually killing the person who started it (a classmate). LN 4 is probably my second least favorite because of the middle part we spend with the other classmates. It's goes on forever. The beginning where Hajime takes down a whole criminal underworld to help free a Dagon girl and the ending where Hajime and co rescue the classmates and Kaori joins them were the big highs. LN 5 starts to get good and we even get 2 new dungeons and a lot of build up for a bigger fight in the next book. LN 6 is a giant battle, a lot of stuff happens, there are more character deaths and it actually ended up being near the top of my favorites in the series. LN 7 is smaller story, but really gives Shea and the Haulia tribe time to really shine as they basically overthrow an empire for the sake of the other beastmen. LN 8 we go through another dungeon, but with some of the classmates. Kouki is freaking annoying in all of these for various reasons and he really slows down the story. But at the end, Hajime actually accepts Shea as a lover. They've grown a lot as characters since they've been introduced and rely on each other enough that Hajime sees Shea as important as Yue. And from what I've heard in the web novel, Hajime actually accepts the harem ending.
So yea, a little rant, but it also goes to show that even when a series has a low point, give it time to build up and develop the characters and you get some awesome moments
It's not really common that a character accept the harem isn't it? Generally they chose 1 girl (as Kirito as far as i went) or don't chose anyone, either way i'm really into Arifureta's characters so i'm eager to see the rest
Yes, Hajime accepts the harem ending and marries all of them, but Yue is still in his top spot, followed by Shea.
@@okpokp2954 This, does put a smile on my face
How to make view
"sword art online"
. I replayed to a comment on your video (I think it was part 1) that my biggest fear was the pacing of this anime because we saw in OP character that introduced much later as Tio which we'll see in the next episode at this rate. I didn't imagine that the problem was this big. Skipping things that explains why he took Shelia with him (She was disowned by her family and then the family was kicked out the village and Shelia still wanted to protect them despite being disowned). Next episode you'll ask why he even talks to the teacher and tells her to fuck off or even confirms he's Hajime? (Because of the arc they skipped about bunny people becoming so violent and blinded by rage that even Hajime was disgusted by it and btw it was a full arc with the village) The WN and LN is far from great but at least it make sense while the Anime looks like compilation of great moments without any context.
Uhm... what's the source @ 2:27? I feel like I should know this but I can't quite put my finger on it.
I would like to hear your opinion on "Moon-led Journey Across Another World" if you happen to read it.
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Oh right, she was the girlfriend of that Sebas-lookin' dude. Now I remember.
I always liked the side stories in the Aincrad arc of SAO; seeing how various people coped with and handled the situation was far more interested than seeing how Kirito did, and Kirito was at his best when he was more of a deus ex machina for others' stories than when he was the star of his own.
aaaah Digi showing off his brilliant Tokyo Ghoul knowledge once again...
This is so true, it reminds me of Shield Hero. It had an mature/edgy episode 1 to 4 but took a sharp turn back to isekai power fantasy harem anime from episode 5 onwards. I still liked it but it was those initial episodes that hooked me in really hard.
Thats no problem, Hajime isn't the usual harem MC. He makes it pretty clear that he only loves Yue.
As much as I bash on Sao, Arifureta is the worst. Anime wise, I love the hell out of the manga but to give credit to sao. The anime of that series at least had better animation and action.
Edit: I don't care what anyone says, the manga of Arifureta is awesomely good. Not the greatest, and definitely not bad, but fun and interesting
I think SAO is better.
Both of them are ass.
Anime wise I agree
Just An Ordinary Polar Bear It doesn’t change the fact that SAO is still better than Arifuretta tho.
@@Wallie33. maybe the first season, every other season is trash and isn't even funny to watch
Littlefinger That is subjective. The other seasons still did have a few fun scenes. But yeah season one was definitely the best season.
This is the kind of stuff I seriously worry might happen to a webnovel I personally really enjoy, now I might sound stereotypical, and I'd entirely understand if people do not trust my statement, but I find the Chinese webnovel by the name (horrible I know) "Release that Witch", to be an absolutely awesome story.
This one is getting an anime, though I seriously worry that it won't do it justice, in part because the premise would be very difficult to genuinely do justice, and in part because the trailer seems to convey a completely different story.
In this case though I do belive that the subject matter is actually good, whereas I don't believe it ever was with SAO, or Arifureta (for the record I've been reading webnovels for quite a few years now, and I must admit I've seen many stories which would go on to be the "hot new anime of the season", be praised to the skies, and whenever I tried (or oftentimes even just read the synopsis), I found them to be so generic, that I honestly cannot fathom why people claim that they're different than the rest.
An important point to make though, is that a story doesn't have to be different to be enjoyable, it just has to satisfy your subjective desires and requirements of a story, which to me neither Arifureta, Death March, or even such stories as a Overlord ever accomplished, to me they're quite ordinary, because while they might be slightly darker, or more violent, the general writing quality and care and attention put into the story, is just as blandly little as in all the others.
To close out my rant, I believe one of the next "great overly hyped anime" that people will see will be: Saihate no Paladin, or Paladin of the End. A story that has an amazing intro, but (I've been told), will be getting a lot more generic with time, which is seriously sad. So in conclusion if ANYONE should desire to write a story, don't just "wing it", 'cause "winging it" will lead to what might be a good premise, but without proper character and worldbuilding, your story will fall apart, propably even quite quickly.
Ohgod i hope theynever make an anime out oft release that witch cause it will never live up to the novel ! The story is kinda unique in all the chinese novels .
@@Thyrosar Oh they do, there's a trailer and everything already. And lets just say it looks way more "anime" than I'd consider the story to be.
@@op4000exe ah hi i know wich trailer u mean ... I have good and Bad news for you ... The trailer u saw was From an chinese anime Studio AS a promo that send it to the copyrights holder to get the rights for making the anime of RTW ... Sadly the license holders fucked up the deal and With that all the talk about the anime (even different Studios distanced themself Form that company). So sadly no anime :(
When they announced Arifureta I expected them to focus on the core plot in order to get through the material in 12 episodes. 1 episode for setup, 3 in the Orcus labyrinth, 1 in town, 2 in Reisen, 3 saving Ur, and last episode Hajime's saving of the Hero party from the ambush in the first Labyrinth. Instead, we had two episodes of pure expositional episodes, and one on the Haluia, a plot which is ancillary to the story and could have been done in a few minutes.
7:13 true my man speaking facts
Honestly, what you said about the ‘1 great cathartic scene’ really got to heart of why I kept reading Arifureta for 150 FUCKING CHAPTERS, even though I was amazingly bored after the first 20. That scene is so well written and so tense and exciting, with so much buildup, that sometimes I read arifureta just for that scene. And then I keep reading, knowing that it’s shit.
Just got past episode 9 of, record of grancrest war and it completely crushed my enjoyment of the series and Made me start seeing that up to their it might’ve been bad as well. As one of the three great anime TH-cam kings I would like to know your thoughts?
Ps i’m specifically talking of the sex scene where with the queen at the end
Yeah I hated that scene too but it was aight
Bob Bob a lot of people complaining about that but it’s not that bad after that scene but it’s making it hard for me to finish
Bob Bob No offense, seriously don’t take this in an offensive way but why the hell do people call a show trash only for having a sex scene? This is a serious question from me. I don’t understand why people get pissed of about seeing a sex scene in a show and I don’t understand how it ruins a show at all. In my opinion you guys are just being sensitive about this topics being shown in stories.
I don’t usually care it just took me by surprise if you would are telling me that the second half of the season is as good as the first half then I’ll totally watch it Through to the end
Also I’ll try to be more open minded thanks for telling ll me your opinion
I was waiting For Arifureta since it was first announce. I've been reading the manga since ch.1. Now imagine my reaction to the anime when it came out. Take your rage for S3 of Seven Deadly Sins animation and multiple it by 10.
At least it's not a certain 'Healer' anime..
When you gonna review Dungeon Defense?
We all know we’re still watching to see if haijime or whatever his name is meet his friends again
I'm really enjoying observing your love affair with this series. Please Continue.
There is 1 part that shocked a lot of people which was seeing Kirito's arm get entirely cut off
Arifureta means 'commonplace'
So...what a descriptive title
they skipped a scene where the protagonist made more than a dozen humans "not living". he "not lived" humans for the first time. They also skipped the entirety of the beastmen country of verbergen. and the majority of bunny "bulli" and rubber bullets "bulli"
Damn my bro digi just flamed Parasyte... i loved parasyte...
Rest easy, Parasyte is good
Digi is the hardest of hardass critics. I bet he's got notes on Cowboy Bebop for christ's sake.
But it's ok, Parasyte is really good.
I think part of the problem with the Alo Arc is that Western audiences for the most part do not totally grasp the concept of arranged marriages or the situation that could in theory happen to Asuna. It certainly may not seem to rise to the level of death and yet Kirito still using a nerve gear was he not. Because of that the level of drama could not quite ever rise as far, and I think that's why the fairy art was not is interesting fun though it might have been. By the time you get to GGO and death gun some of that realism appears to return but you have this nagging feeling in your head that the hero is going to find a way to win this at the end somehow he's going to add see not do his ever-expanding online harem. It's just not quite clear how how that happens because sinon seems to be a strong character but really that strength is a facade. It's like in most trilogies the sequel is not always better and the third installment repeat things seen in the first episode and therefore is not as original. For the alicization Art's it clearly became just about eye candy at that point and not necessarily for the characters but the strange new powers of the week that the heroes were up against. But at that point I felt invested in the characters and wanted to know how this ended
Digi should do more videos about awesomely bad stuff
In the end Mustang burned Envy alive, the thing with Lust happened pretty early on
Arifureta is a story about the lowly freshman who no one cared enough to help. Then whenever he raises to the top everyone wants HIS help. However, he says, fuck that, unless my vampire waifu says so. There's better grudge stories out there, but at least this train wreck came packed with colorful fireworks.
So basically, ignore the swarms of the Arifureta reddit telling me the LN is better than the WN because they're both so shit it really doesn't matter what you read.
arifureta's manga is kinda good because the anime has tons of cg in it.
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And this my friends is "One Punch Man" in a nutshell. At first, it WAS epically amazing as a "put your brain outside of your room" and enjoy the special effects show! But now......Season 2 was released and.....oh, how the mighty have fallen. -_-
What?
Why does everything come back to Sao?
Did I mentioned the anime skipped half of the volume in the latest episode which contains a lot of politics stuff and build up for the future ?
Also the stuff that skipped actually was supposed to built up the relationship between Hajime and Shia.
I think the hate toward the ln is unjustified. I get that this adaptation is horrible but the original story does have some potential in it. It’s not a masterpiece but it does have good and entertaining story.
Btw arifureta( ln ) has multiple points in the story which impact the story heavily. I don’t think that the abyss is the only impactful thing in the story that the story later gets its fuel. I can point at least two.
The manga itself skipped some stuff according to what I know. I didn’t read it yet.
I just read the manga (and i follow the anime) and even from my point of view i have the impression that they rush things too much in the anime,they skipped too much
Guifire97 what’s worse the manga itself criticized as rushed. So what they did in the anime is freaking stupid.
@@Nikolai2i I should maybe by the Light Novel then i don't like when i miss a part of the story
Guifire97 The light novel is great 👍🏻
You should try it 😊
What anime is the scene of 2:45 from?
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