The takeaway I find most interesting is how well older cards hold up with things like 4k video editing and Photoshop. If you are not doing 3d or raw video, the generational updates seem really hard to justify.
Well, 4k encoding is 4k encoding, it will never demand more unless your projects are insanely long and complicated. The point of diminishing return had to come one day.
Nvidia are doing the best they can to disable these "gaming" cards for productivity work. This is why they are also developing the texture upscaling technology so that they can get away with much smaller memory busses and lower Vram. Instead, they should leave the gaming cards as they are, and try to make the workstation cards more compelling. The rtx 6000 Ada which performs almost the same as the 4090, costs around 10.000 euro where I live. This is insane, you can get 6 4090s with that money and still have plenty of money to spare.
crazy how Amd and Nvidia are almost the same price on my local 😂 that's why it's hard to trust what people's opinion is when it comes to worth my money.
Well, I'm grateful your review/comparison just for making me not have regret for pulling the trigger on a 3060 ti when I saw the 4060 ti come out a few months later at nearly the same price point. Looks like I'm not missing much, especially for the light gauge production work I do.
christ, all i want to do is play starfield but it says you need at least a 1070 ti and i got a 1060 non ti factory oc. Finding something like a 2080 for cheap is hard as they are discontinued as is the 1660 and all we got is 3060 and 4060 which are effectively the same. I still look back at how i bought a gtx 275 for 200 and i used it until it died playing saints row 4 and then i got a gtx 660 for a bout the same but i saw a deal for a 200-240 or something 1060 and i got it, still using it today. I guess the era you could get a 200-250 card and play games just fine for years is over. Now the 4060 ti is a 3060 ti and if you want more than 8gb vram which lets be honest we gonna need in the future, its gonna cost you 450-500. 4080 is the 4070 ti, and 4070 ti is 4060 ti and the 40 60 ti is a 4050. So wtf is the 4060 gonna be? A 2060? No a 2050 and the 4050 is gonna be something like 1060, wtf nvidia? Amd still sucks balls, perhaps in a long enough timeline, intel...of all people....can make affordable gpus...intel who makes the most expensive cpus.
For 300$ a 4060ti is any good? I found a few around 330$ used. Maybe a few buyers found It was garbage for their workload, I need an RTX for Architecture and Photogrametry.
6:24 Um..isn't it weird that the 4070 performs worse than the 2060 super here? I think these scores may not be comparable as that doesn't make any sense. Also, you misspoke it as the 4070 Ti here
@@Loppy2u thank you. 😃 About the 4000 series, I love what I've used so far, 4070 up to 4090. Now I'm wondering how Nvidia's going to fill the gap between a 4060 Ti and 4070.
@@ruicosta1037 From my own data, the 4070 is about 80% the performance of the 4070 Ti in 4K which I think is good. I'd rather the Ti and non Ti being apart than being very close. Hopefully Nvidia doesn't pull another SUPER.
What nvidia did is they had a ton of 3060ti in stock and they had to make it look apealing. So they produced 10 4060ti send it to reviewers and let the 3060ti sell out. They probably did the same with all the 40 series cards that are not a real upgrade. Jensen said they will manipulate the market to sell the 30 series cards. Everybody forgot about it so quick.
@@sinAnon6689 I paid a bit less than $150 more for the 4070 ti than I paid for the 2070 Super, but that was the comparison for me. Good value relative to what I was replacing. The 4070 ti performs better than the 2070 Super; however, the 2070 Super is still strong enough to last through the 4000 generation. I wanted DLSS, but not many games even support that option.
This helps to explain why my old 2080ti was such a good card for video editing and rendering. I think the 20 series was the last release from Nvidia where they gave a crap about gamers and creators.
That generation offered very, very little improvement in performance per dollar over the Pascal generation (1000 series). The 3000 series (Ampere) was a much better improvement in performance per dollar over the 2000 series than the 2000 series was over the 1000 series.
@@dolan_plz I just bought a 4080, which replaced my 2080ti. More FPS, for sure, and better video encoding, but the 2080ti sold for about $300, and the 4080 cost $1,200. I'm not sure there's $900 worth of difference. The 2080ti played all my games, even in 4K, just not as fast as the 4080 does.
The 3080 was $700 which was the best deal in gpu's in a long time. Now you can get a used 3080 for $400 in the U.S. which is one of the best deals around.
@@ScottGrammer I'm sticking with my 2080 ti gigabyte Gaming OC card. I bought my graphics card at the beginning of 2021 and I don't really think an upgrade to the 40 series makes sense yet.
They were thinking, the extra onboard cache will make up for the halving of the local bus bandwidth. Which, to be fair, it would on older titles where the assets fit in the cache. This generation is a pass for me as (IMO) it isn't worth the price they're asking. They reduced or didn't increase the amount of ram, reduced the bandwidth of the ram, and increased the price, and then seem shocked (shocked, I tell you!) that people are like "meh... no thanks, performance isn't there for what they are charging". Apparently they DON'T possess Apple's reality distortion field technology.
nVidia has an issue with "creators" that use the products to make money. Usually the tools to make money are more expensive. Thats why they released this card so crippled on the memory side so the creators buy the more expensive card with more Vram. The games that start to create problems won 8Gb Vram really make nVidia uncomfortable because nVidia does not want people that make money with their GPUS to buy midrange cards.
And AMD just fixed that by... Just make Radeon absolutely suck at productivity. Remind you Radeon Pro is an absolute monster on video editing, and then there's standar Radeon that isn't any better than Intel IGPU on editing
Am I reading this correctly (06:20) that the 4070 is also not as good as the 3060 TI and 2060 Super in the Photoshop benchmarks? Because holy crap if that's the case. NVIDIA, care to elaborate?
Wait… it’s pcie x8??? So I can dual wield this card on the proart z790? Can you see if it’s beneficial to get two of these and run them in blender/UE5 or any kind of 3D rendering programs???? Please? 🙏🏼 WHEN YOU BUY MORE YOU SAVE MORE 😂😂😂
It will be interesting to see how well the 16GB model performs as a 3D rendering card, but I suspect the same... the anemic memory bus is killing it and the cache they slapped on as a band aid isn't helping in professional workloads enough to offset this issue. It's so bad that it's not even helping in gaming really either. As Gamers Nexus would say... a waste of sand. Also, if the workload needs to swap anything between system memory and video memory... that 8X limitation is going to hold it back as well, even on a Gen4 system. It's hilarious that the 2060S is able to keep up with the 4060 Ti... how pathetic. Even the 4070 doesn't look like much of an upgrade over the 3060 Ti outside the extra VRAM. Now I'm curious what the gap between the 1080 Ti and the 4060 Ti would be. Probably not enough to justify the "upgrade" in a lot of professional workloads.
I wanted to express my sincere gratitude for the insightful video you created comparing After Effects options. Your detailed information was incredibly helpful in guiding my decision. Prior to watching your video, I was considering purchasing the '4060 Ti,' but your thorough analysis steered me towards a better editing option. Thank you for sharing your expertise and aiding me in making a more informed choice.
Pretty obvious the 4070 at some point was intended to be the 4060 Ti, but then nVidia got greedy and decided to switch some names. Nobody will notice right?
do the names really matter at all? if its the right price its the right price. if its too high then you'll see a price cut when they don't sell. No such thing as a bad product, only a bad price.
@@konzo5942 I disagree, there can be bad products as well. Nvidia isn't currently making any bad products, they seem to be letting ... under/unqualified people control their tiering / pricing / segmentation strategy. Normally this kind of antics would result in a stock price freefall, but they currently have AI to backstop it, at least until everyone who's big into AI gets their own accelerator chips up and running. I wouldn't worry too much about it, either the pricing will change to reflect reality, or nvidia's going to lose their distribution network. Just wait until someone releases a card that's a good upgrade value for your current situation.
I think they were trying to get a ~10% performance increase gen-on-gen with the 4060Ti and 4060, based on their internal benchmarks and metrics, while lowering TDP considerably. But they made a small mistake on how they cut it down and ended up being about the same, with a few wins in some titles and software, so it's mostly a power usage improvement, gen-on-gen. I genuinely think this was a planning/design goal misstep and not a nefarious scheme to not improve. I think if they knew what they know now about how it performs, they could have made slight changes to the SKUs' configurations and gotten a solid 20% improvement for slightly more power. Either way, it's a generation that's better than the one before in power draw and bells and whistles (DLSS 3) but barely above a wash overall on performance. If you didn't buy the 3060 Ti, and you own a 1060/1070, it's a massive massive 2x-ish performance upgrade, gen-on-gen comparison aside. But if you own a 2080/3060 Ti, the improvement is marginal enough to not make sense. As seems to always be the case, the -70 and up GPUs are where the actual value is because of how long they will be relevant.
Games usually reserve more VRAM when there is more VRAM available. With Horizon, with identical settings, you can see that more VRAM is reserved if there is available, but that doesn't mean that the application really needs more VRAM. With 128 bit 4060ti 16gb, you shouldn't aim for WQHD gaming; even if it had 50GB VRAM, the 4070 super with 12GB VRAM would still be 50% faster. It's the same with RAM, if you install more, more is reserved, but it doesn't create any added value. With a low-end graphics card, performance doesn't improve just because you install 32 or 64GB of RAM. Unfortunately, I see with many ready-made PCs that the setups lure in customers with large numbers rather than offering a sensible setup. There is no 10% improvement, more like 1-3%. It is actually a scam to convince people to spend 100€ more
I'm glad I came across this video as it clears up my mind that in productivity 4060ti isn't the best choice to upgrade from my rtx 2060 super. Thankyou soo much for this detailed information. I might have to consider 4070 super or 4080 now.
the card uses around 25-50w less power then the 3060ti I think thats the selling point, could you test the 4070ti? that has dual encoders which should help out editing
@Tech Notice ahh will view it tonight, there is one other thing I don't know if you test it but it's multicam or streams, I usually have a 5 camera setup (4k 8bit) and am always looking to see how hardware handles multiple streams, hence why the interest in dual encoders as my 3060ti hits 100% with 5 streams and can only really play 3 smoothly, how would the Mac chips or dual encoders improve multicam
I wonder how many decades one would need to use the 4060ti in order to save enough on electric bills to warrant "upgrading" to it from the 3060ti. In fact, now that the 3060ti will drop in price, it doesn't even make sense for customers to go with the 4060ti as an initial card instead of an upgrade. Just get the 3060ti and enjoy the savings that would literally take years to wipe out with its higher power draw.
@L.J. Rhodes you have a valid point but I think servers that use GPUs would see benefit especially as cloud gaming grows, I can see the next several GPU releases focusing on power consumption
@@navpreetsingh8156, I think you're right. Unfortunately, this would also mean NVIDIA is making gamers, who are the ones who actually made their company, nothing more than an afterthought. And, well, if that's the way they want to go, then I just hope AMD is open to keeping us in the fold as NVIDIA kicks us to the curb. Though, with any luck, Intel will really step up their game to bring some much-needed competition to the field. Because NVIDIA and AMD both have gotten just a bit too big for their britches.
The 3060 Ti had performance comparable to the 2080 Super so you would think the 4060 Ti should have the performance of the 3080 but barely has the performance of the 3060 Ti. You need to test this on a PCIe 3.0 motherboard because it is going to be even worse.
If you had a graphics card with more memory than 16GB, more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
What you need to do is ignore the product name, and ignore the die name. Look at the die size Look at the memory bus The 4060TI is 1/2 the size of the 3060TI, yet about the same performance in gaming Moore's law has been kicked into overdrive, Jensen lied to you Why do i say that? The 4070TI is actually the next 12GB 3060, not the 3060TI Same die size, same memory bus, same memory capacity as the $330 3060 But because of how much faster the card is, Nvidia chose to re-name it the 4070TI so they can charge $800, for a $299-$399 card Now Nvidia really REALLY wants to hard pivot to AI, sure we think $800 for a 60 class card, and $500 for a 50 class card is expensive, but for AI/mining, these cards actively earn money so while we see an $800 60 class card and think 'oh, man, i had better find a new hobby', AI/mining companies are thinking "I cannot beleive this thing that will earn us $200/month, only costs $800" And Nvidia really, REALLY wants to stop selling gaming cards at inflated gaming prices, because they're losing profits, for every $1600 4090 sold, they're losing ~$9000 in profits
we're now in november - the current drivers for 4060ti should further increase performance by 5-10%. also there is a rumored 4060super with 12gb and superiorspecs and performance which may end up being only slightly less than the 4070.
Nvidia right now reminds me of the old Intel days. I really hope the Intel Arc and AMD GPUs continue to improve and put real competitive pressure on Nvidia.
To be honest man if i was using my system for everything you listed there id rather just buy a RTX A4000 instead since that is the intended purpose of that GPU but for GPUs like the 3060 Ti, 4060 Ti and 4070 people would of been more interested in seeing gaming benchmarks since those would be gaming GPUs and mainly advertised for gaming.
Games usually reserve more VRAM when there is more VRAM available. With Horizon, with identical settings, you can see that more VRAM is reserved if there is available, but that doesn't mean that the application really needs more VRAM. With 128 bit 4060ti 16gb, you shouldn't aim for WQHD gaming; even if it had 50GB VRAM, the 4070 super with 12GB VRAM would still be 50% faster. It's the same with RAM, if you install more, more is reserved, but it doesn't create any added value. With a low-end graphics card, performance doesn't improve just because you install 32 or 64GB of RAM. Unfortunately, I see with many ready-made PCs that the setups lure in customers with large numbers rather than offering a sensible setup.
well, i went from Nvidia GT730, to a GTX960 that got fried from airfan failure 1 year after... lol. to RTX 3060TI .. and i cant say anything but i Love it! ;D 220$ for this card in late 2022 is a bargain =)
Great review! Highlights the way that NVidia is gaslighting pc owners that this 4060ti is in some way a generational improvement. NVidia have got themselves in such a tangle after the 4080 12gb relaunch that they've had to nerf the memory bus, the PCIe interface and the cores so that performance fits in line with the products that sit above it in the range. And whilst in terms of gaming benchmarks they (sort of) get away with it, with creator's benchmarks it is totally transparent that they are taking us for fools. As Tech Notice advises DO NOT BUY.
I have 2060S strix 8GB, and still, it is a beast when considering it is 2 gen older and still the new ones doesn't have a lot of benefits except 3d rendering i hope the 5000 series will be so efficient it'll be worth it
Just a note about your charts. You should consider the new card as the variable, and quote it's performance relative to the older cards. You have confusingly quoted the performance of all the old cards to the new one.
There isn't a best value than the 2060 12gb for beginner creators. If you are just starting in the business, you can get going with it until you jump right to the 4090. Anything in the middle is not that interesting. Max RAM, a good processor and a 2060 12gb goes a loooong way in 3D.
@@OficinadoArditoIt absolutely is enough unless you are rendering highly complex scenes with 4k textures. The 4060 is a better buy for someone just starting because It's way faster when rendering. The 2060 12gb would be better for someone already experienced and doing professional work. For a begginer they will start with a much slower gpu and not use the additional 4gb at all
@@ThePipojp the new 4060 16gb is the best value proposition, I guess. Not that much more expensive than the 8gb, and really worth it. If the budget is really constrained, I would still bet into vram and consider the ARC 770 16gb, especially for Unreal Engine. In Blender, the Optix is a big deal, so I would lean towards Nvidia. At least for my workloads, which are large scale civil engineering visualization, there is no substitute for vram and it is worth sacrificing some speed for some capacity.
@@OficinadoArdito Unfortunately there is no 16gb version of the 4060. The RTX 4060ti 16gb is a good option for blender though. For highly complex work not only vram matters a lot, but I'd personally look for something faster than a 60 series anyway. If that's what you do for a living then the 12gb 3060 or 2060is likely still not enough too tbh. Not only you can still easily exceed 12gb, those would be terribly slow when rendering very complex scenes. The 4070 has enough vram and It's a lot faster, better to save up and get that. It's also a better bang for buck than the 4060ti 16gb
I forgot to say this a while back, but I was so happy that you fixed the audio issue for the sponsor that I went ahead and used your code to buy another product off WHOKeys. Much appreciated.
If you can afford 500 dollar card, please buy the RX 6800 (non-XT). Better performance, and 16 GB VRAM for around the same price. Only noticable difference may be power draw, but if you are willing to waste your money on the 4060 Ti 16GB then I'm sure you got a good PSU.
@@theTechNoticeHey 🙂 I wanted to know the best AMD processor to take for a 4060Ti to avoid bottleneck and have the best possible performance in AM4 and also in AM5 (I play in 1440p)? (Let no one judge my choice of GPU, I want an NVIDIA I know that an AMD would be less expensive and with better performance.)
I just don't understand such ''highly intelligent'' companies as Nvidia. They hire highly educated people, yet they release products that are worse than older products yet cost more.. Pardon me but what?? Maybe Nvidia should start using their so highly praised AI for developing new gpus, not human resources. Maybe than we will get something actually good..
If you had a graphics card with more memory than 16GB, more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
Its not just the 4060ti card in the test, the bad news holds even more for the 4070 according to your numbers. So its really something with the 40-series overall in some the tests you perform. Would not expect the 2060 super to perform on par with the 4070. It is a combination of software and hardware.
4060 is much faster in Blender Render than 780M 7940hs. Does 780M have any use for creative tasks, or is it at least not too much slower for Photoshop? 4060 needs huge 230W power brick, but 780M has tiny usb-c adapter.
You can ride out your 1660ti or not for more releases, price drops on the new/used market. Your time to choose if you want the best now or can hold on for more uplift in your price range.
Can you release a revised DAVINCI RESOLVE and premier pro comparing the 4060 Ti, 4070, 2060S and the 6750 and 6900 XT? I think it would be helpful to see where AMD stands given their price point is at least from a gaming perspective and especially for VRAM a worthwhile option to consider
Wish they would send you a NVIDIA RTX A4000, looks like it has similar Max Power Consumption give or take like the RTX 4060 TI. Used market for 500, is the 100 extra worth it in time saved for creators?
Thanks for this video. Seems like a disappointing card. I hope you will put the 16gb version through its paces when it comes out. I would be especially interested to know if the 16gb vram is enough to render out moderately complex 8k projects in davinci resolve 😊😊😊
For 300$ a 4060ti is any good? I found a few around 330$ used. Maybe a few buyers found It was garbage for their workload, I need an RTX for Architecture and Photogrametry.
If you had a graphics card with more memory than 16GB, more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
Isn't this suppose to be a refresh of the 30 series and NOT a new gen card???At least they tried to make it look like one by cutting down everything from last gen ,I'm still going to buy a 3060 though !
Please suggest CPU 13700 or 13700K (price almost same in India ) i will not overclock and Build with Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX (Wi-Fi) Motherboard Please Reply
Been looking for a mid range creator card for live streaming & recording AV1 at around $500-600 w/ 2x HDMI 2.1 ports. The closest thing I can find is a 4070Ti for like $800 which I refuse to pay, screw nvidia. Nvidia wants high prices for their midrange cards it's so ridiculous.
Nvidia is all in, and making incredible coin, on AI. I don't think they care anymore about gamers, or content creators on a budget. They could drop both those markets, and still make their stakeholders boatloads of money.
Nvidia up named the whole product stack the 3060Ti should have been the 3050Ti and the 4070 should have been a 4060 and the 4070Ti should have been the 4060TI. They used the performance gains from the new node to allow them to reposition the whole stack to keep massive margins.
The GeForce RTX 4060 Ti has a paltry 128-bit bus but delivers an effective memory bandwidth of 554GB/s, higher than the 448GB/s offered by the 3060 Ti despite its wider 256-bit bus...its not a problem with the card its a caracteristic of the 4060 Ti series. Next time google it before say something like that.
@@theTechNotice Dont be sad, about it.They will learn a lesson it can help to everyone to customers, AIBs and Nvidia alike in long run. It wont bankrupt the Nvidia, it will just prove them being obviously wrong this time.
If you had a graphics card with more memory than more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
Why feel bad about making this review? Are you worried about hurting Nvidia's feelings? I'm a 4090 owner and I'll be the first to tell you that their feelings don't count. They sure as hell don't care about gamers/consumers anymore.
i got my 4070 ti to use it in unreal and 12gb vram its bad i wish i know it before to get 4080 it sucks due no one its testing gpus for unreal in youtube
Are people actually buying the 4060ti? My last card was a GTX970 and planned on purchasing a 4070, but the AMD options are better. Of course, then there is the power draw between AMD's last gen and Nvidia new gen, over the course of 2-years the $100 difference is made up in power savings, and that is here in middle of the corn fields America! I imagine in more expensive states or other parts of the the world the $4070 probably makes sense with the power savings over the 6800XT. I just didn't want to spend more than $1300 to build a new PC and that has to include taxes and a monitor. Starting to think I need to increase this budget to $1700 or even a flat $2k. I am just a filthy casual but the math shows two options. 1. Build something with last gen tech, like a 6700XT and keep the price low(ish), or. 2. Build something that is nearly double the cost because the longevity will likely break even or even come out slightly ahead after four years or more.
From every review I’ve seen about the 4060ti’s performance has been a dumpster fire of a cluster f*ck. Did Nvidia really think that no one would pay attention to the bench testing and just buy it because it’s a 4000 series?
well its about damn time :( also, why "Feel bad about making this review"? If it isn't obvious, the 4060 ti is supposed to be a worse GPU and the 4070 is supposed to be a 4060 ti (or even a 4060) but hey, moving the number up makes them sell the card for more.
The takeaway I find most interesting is how well older cards hold up with things like 4k video editing and Photoshop. If you are not doing 3d or raw video, the generational updates seem really hard to justify.
Well, 4k encoding is 4k encoding, it will never demand more unless your projects are insanely long and complicated. The point of diminishing return had to come one day.
I just picked up a 4070 to upgrade my 2060. It was open box for $479 which I think is a great deal from bestbuy.
Nvidia are doing the best they can to disable these "gaming" cards for productivity work. This is why they are also developing the texture upscaling technology so that they can get away with much smaller memory busses and lower Vram. Instead, they should leave the gaming cards as they are, and try to make the workstation cards more compelling. The rtx 6000 Ada which performs almost the same as the 4090, costs around 10.000 euro where I live. This is insane, you can get 6 4090s with that money and still have plenty of money to spare.
crazy how Amd and Nvidia are almost the same price on my local 😂 that's why it's hard to trust what people's opinion is when it comes to worth my money.
Well, I'm grateful your review/comparison just for making me not have regret for pulling the trigger on a 3060 ti when I saw the 4060 ti come out a few months later at nearly the same price point. Looks like I'm not missing much, especially for the light gauge production work I do.
unless the benchmarks the conclusions are based are total nonsense
All the cards should be Spiderman versions pointing at each other... They are literally trolling us.
Nvidia is Venom. AMD is carnage. Damn this gens mainstream is trash
@@phoenixrising4995 NGL if amd came out with a Carnage card, I'd be all over that
Conclusion: In a normal world, this would be called the 4030/4050 and we'd say it's a great card for $149.99
Yeah call it a 4050 for 150 and it's actually a good gpu
christ, all i want to do is play starfield but it says you need at least a 1070 ti and i got a 1060 non ti factory oc.
Finding something like a 2080 for cheap is hard as they are discontinued as is the 1660 and all we got is 3060 and 4060 which are effectively the same.
I still look back at how i bought a gtx 275 for 200 and i used it until it died playing saints row 4 and then i got a gtx 660 for a bout the same but i saw a deal for a 200-240 or something 1060 and i got it, still using it today. I guess the era you could get a 200-250 card and play games just fine for years is over. Now the 4060 ti is a 3060 ti and if you want more than 8gb vram which lets be honest we gonna need in the future, its gonna cost you 450-500. 4080 is the 4070 ti, and 4070 ti is 4060 ti and the 40 60 ti is a 4050. So wtf is the 4060 gonna be? A 2060? No a 2050 and the 4050 is gonna be something like 1060, wtf nvidia? Amd still sucks balls, perhaps in a long enough timeline, intel...of all people....can make affordable gpus...intel who makes the most expensive cpus.
It is a 50 class with a 60 class name but priced at 70 class with DLSS of a 80 class card.
For 300$ a 4060ti is any good? I found a few around 330$ used. Maybe a few buyers found It was garbage for their workload, I need an RTX for Architecture and Photogrametry.
"It is evolving, just backwards"
Thanks NVIDIA!
6:24 Um..isn't it weird that the 4070 performs worse than the 2060 super here?
I think these scores may not be comparable as that doesn't make any sense.
Also, you misspoke it as the 4070 Ti here
Interesting, the 3060 Ti was VERY CLOSE to 3070 while here we see 4060 Ti is VERY FAR from the 4070.
Confirmed what many have said about the product shift with the 4000 series. Great review of the RTX 4070 TI on your channel.
@@Loppy2u thank you. 😃
About the 4000 series, I love what I've used so far, 4070 up to 4090.
Now I'm wondering how Nvidia's going to fill the gap between a 4060 Ti and 4070.
Also the 4070 is very far from 4070 Ti for some weird reason. The gaps are wider between each card in this gen.
@@ruicosta1037 From my own data, the 4070 is about 80% the performance of the 4070 Ti in 4K which I think is good. I'd rather the Ti and non Ti being apart than being very close.
Hopefully Nvidia doesn't pull another SUPER.
why is 4060Ti????
Just found your channel today. Outstanding reviews you perform.
What nvidia did is they had a ton of 3060ti in stock and they had to make it look apealing. So they produced 10 4060ti send it to reviewers and let the 3060ti sell out. They probably did the same with all the 40 series cards that are not a real upgrade. Jensen said they will manipulate the market to sell the 30 series cards. Everybody forgot about it so quick.
What you are finding is a nice increase in performance.... for the 50 class chip. Shame that it is not being sold for what it actually is.
The new 4050 I mean 4060ti 😂
That's why I am not upgrading my 3060ti. I am making all my TH-cam videos using it and I have never been bottlenecked by it.
Do you edit 4k videos?
@@nirvana4698 Yes
Same here. Undervolted it with MSI Afterburner and it's a champ! Working on a video right now.
I am super happy with my 4070 ti relative to my 2070 super. Good value. Similar price.
Yeah I'm really happy with my 4070. It's a beast of a card that runs everything I throw at it, basically cost me $530 since I got Diablo 4 for free.
@@sinAnon6689 I paid a bit less than $150 more for the 4070 ti than I paid for the 2070 Super, but that was the comparison for me. Good value relative to what I was replacing. The 4070 ti performs better than the 2070 Super; however, the 2070 Super is still strong enough to last through the 4000 generation. I wanted DLSS, but not many games even support that option.
The 4070 ti is a $600 gpu selling for $800, but yeah, it's a great deal if you like getting ripped off.
This helps to explain why my old 2080ti was such a good card for video editing and rendering. I think the 20 series was the last release from Nvidia where they gave a crap about gamers and creators.
That generation offered very, very little improvement in performance per dollar over the Pascal generation (1000 series). The 3000 series (Ampere) was a much better improvement in performance per dollar over the 2000 series than the 2000 series was over the 1000 series.
@@syncmonism improvements in terms of performance per dollar? you sure about that?
@@dolan_plz I just bought a 4080, which replaced my 2080ti. More FPS, for sure, and better video encoding, but the 2080ti sold for about $300, and the 4080 cost $1,200. I'm not sure there's $900 worth of difference. The 2080ti played all my games, even in 4K, just not as fast as the 4080 does.
The 3080 was $700 which was the best deal in gpu's in a long time. Now you can get a used 3080 for $400 in the U.S. which is one of the best deals around.
@@ScottGrammer I'm sticking with my 2080 ti gigabyte Gaming OC card. I bought my graphics card at the beginning of 2021 and I don't really think an upgrade to the 40 series makes sense yet.
Looking at the specs side by side, it tells me this really was supposed to be a 4050/ti.
They were thinking, the extra onboard cache will make up for the halving of the local bus bandwidth. Which, to be fair, it would on older titles where the assets fit in the cache. This generation is a pass for me as (IMO) it isn't worth the price they're asking. They reduced or didn't increase the amount of ram, reduced the bandwidth of the ram, and increased the price, and then seem shocked (shocked, I tell you!) that people are like "meh... no thanks, performance isn't there for what they are charging". Apparently they DON'T possess Apple's reality distortion field technology.
Thx a lot for the review, i am waiting this so much, but i dont know why, start 13:25, 3060ti not include in table benchmark
nVidia has an issue with "creators" that use the products to make money. Usually the tools to make money are more expensive. Thats why they released this card so crippled on the memory side so the creators buy the more expensive card with more Vram. The games that start to create problems won 8Gb Vram really make nVidia uncomfortable because nVidia does not want people that make money with their GPUS to buy midrange cards.
And AMD just fixed that by... Just make Radeon absolutely suck at productivity. Remind you Radeon Pro is an absolute monster on video editing, and then there's standar Radeon that isn't any better than Intel IGPU on editing
16:07 looks like it doesn't even have thermal pads for memory chips on the back of PCB. Or backplate is made of plastic?
Professor Farnsworth would definitely approve of your Good news, everyone! / Bad News format. Instant thumbs up.
Am I reading this correctly (06:20) that the 4070 is also not as good as the 3060 TI and 2060 Super in the Photoshop benchmarks? Because holy crap if that's the case. NVIDIA, care to elaborate?
Thanks I have been waiting for your numbers.
Wait… it’s pcie x8??? So I can dual wield this card on the proart z790?
Can you see if it’s beneficial to get two of these and run them in blender/UE5 or any kind of 3D rendering programs???? Please? 🙏🏼
WHEN YOU BUY MORE YOU SAVE MORE 😂😂😂
It will be interesting to see how well the 16GB model performs as a 3D rendering card, but I suspect the same... the anemic memory bus is killing it and the cache they slapped on as a band aid isn't helping in professional workloads enough to offset this issue. It's so bad that it's not even helping in gaming really either. As Gamers Nexus would say... a waste of sand. Also, if the workload needs to swap anything between system memory and video memory... that 8X limitation is going to hold it back as well, even on a Gen4 system. It's hilarious that the 2060S is able to keep up with the 4060 Ti... how pathetic. Even the 4070 doesn't look like much of an upgrade over the 3060 Ti outside the extra VRAM.
Now I'm curious what the gap between the 1080 Ti and the 4060 Ti would be. Probably not enough to justify the "upgrade" in a lot of professional workloads.
I thought in 3D rendering the memory bus isn't as matter as the memory capacity itself
Which both 3060Ti and 4060Ti lack of
I wanted to express my sincere gratitude for the insightful video you created comparing After Effects options. Your detailed information was incredibly helpful in guiding my decision. Prior to watching your video, I was considering purchasing the '4060 Ti,' but your thorough analysis steered me towards a better editing option. Thank you for sharing your expertise and aiding me in making a more informed choice.
Pretty obvious the 4070 at some point was intended to be the 4060 Ti, but then nVidia got greedy and decided to switch some names. Nobody will notice right?
do the names really matter at all? if its the right price its the right price. if its too high then you'll see a price cut when they don't sell. No such thing as a bad product, only a bad price.
@@konzo5942 I disagree, there can be bad products as well. Nvidia isn't currently making any bad products, they seem to be letting ... under/unqualified people control their tiering / pricing / segmentation strategy. Normally this kind of antics would result in a stock price freefall, but they currently have AI to backstop it, at least until everyone who's big into AI gets their own accelerator chips up and running. I wouldn't worry too much about it, either the pricing will change to reflect reality, or nvidia's going to lose their distribution network. Just wait until someone releases a card that's a good upgrade value for your current situation.
Tech notice will notice it. 😂
I think they were trying to get a ~10% performance increase gen-on-gen with the 4060Ti and 4060, based on their internal benchmarks and metrics, while lowering TDP considerably. But they made a small mistake on how they cut it down and ended up being about the same, with a few wins in some titles and software, so it's mostly a power usage improvement, gen-on-gen.
I genuinely think this was a planning/design goal misstep and not a nefarious scheme to not improve. I think if they knew what they know now about how it performs, they could have made slight changes to the SKUs' configurations and gotten a solid 20% improvement for slightly more power.
Either way, it's a generation that's better than the one before in power draw and bells and whistles (DLSS 3) but barely above a wash overall on performance. If you didn't buy the 3060 Ti, and you own a 1060/1070, it's a massive massive 2x-ish performance upgrade, gen-on-gen comparison aside. But if you own a 2080/3060 Ti, the improvement is marginal enough to not make sense.
As seems to always be the case, the -70 and up GPUs are where the actual value is because of how long they will be relevant.
Games usually reserve more VRAM when there is more VRAM available. With Horizon, with identical settings, you can see that more VRAM is reserved if there is available, but that doesn't mean that the application really needs more VRAM. With 128 bit 4060ti 16gb, you shouldn't aim for WQHD gaming; even if it had 50GB VRAM, the 4070 super with 12GB VRAM would still be 50% faster.
It's the same with RAM, if you install more, more is reserved, but it doesn't create any added value. With a low-end graphics card, performance doesn't improve just because you install 32 or 64GB of RAM. Unfortunately, I see with many ready-made PCs that the setups lure in customers with large numbers rather than offering a sensible setup.
There is no 10% improvement, more like 1-3%. It is actually a scam to convince people to spend 100€ more
I'm glad I came across this video as it clears up my mind that in productivity 4060ti isn't the best choice to upgrade from my rtx 2060 super. Thankyou soo much for this detailed information. I might have to consider 4070 super or 4080 now.
the card uses around 25-50w less power then the 3060ti I think thats the selling point, could you test the 4070ti? that has dual encoders which should help out editing
done, check out my 4070ti review :)
@Tech Notice ahh will view it tonight, there is one other thing I don't know if you test it but it's multicam or streams, I usually have a 5 camera setup (4k 8bit) and am always looking to see how hardware handles multiple streams, hence why the interest in dual encoders as my 3060ti hits 100% with 5 streams and can only really play 3 smoothly, how would the Mac chips or dual encoders improve multicam
I wonder how many decades one would need to use the 4060ti in order to save enough on electric bills to warrant "upgrading" to it from the 3060ti. In fact, now that the 3060ti will drop in price, it doesn't even make sense for customers to go with the 4060ti as an initial card instead of an upgrade. Just get the 3060ti and enjoy the savings that would literally take years to wipe out with its higher power draw.
@L.J. Rhodes you have a valid point but I think servers that use GPUs would see benefit especially as cloud gaming grows, I can see the next several GPU releases focusing on power consumption
@@navpreetsingh8156, I think you're right. Unfortunately, this would also mean NVIDIA is making gamers, who are the ones who actually made their company, nothing more than an afterthought. And, well, if that's the way they want to go, then I just hope AMD is open to keeping us in the fold as NVIDIA kicks us to the curb. Though, with any luck, Intel will really step up their game to bring some much-needed competition to the field. Because NVIDIA and AMD both have gotten just a bit too big for their britches.
The 3060 Ti had performance comparable to the 2080 Super so you would think the 4060 Ti should have the performance of the 3080 but barely has the performance of the 3060 Ti. You need to test this on a PCIe 3.0 motherboard because it is going to be even worse.
don´t torture him please 😆
Lol it’s like 2080 on a 4nm node
If you had a graphics card with more memory than 16GB, more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
Did you try a a replacement card just to be sure this wasn’t a dud? Or another 4060ti from ASUS or another manufacture?
I asked my contact are these results alright and they didn't correct me so I assume it is what it is...
What you need to do is ignore the product name, and ignore the die name.
Look at the die size
Look at the memory bus
The 4060TI is 1/2 the size of the 3060TI, yet about the same performance in gaming
Moore's law has been kicked into overdrive, Jensen lied to you
Why do i say that?
The 4070TI is actually the next 12GB 3060, not the 3060TI
Same die size, same memory bus, same memory capacity as the $330 3060
But because of how much faster the card is, Nvidia chose to re-name it the 4070TI so they can charge $800, for a $299-$399 card
Now Nvidia really REALLY wants to hard pivot to AI, sure we think $800 for a 60 class card, and $500 for a 50 class card is expensive, but for AI/mining, these cards actively earn money so while we see an $800 60 class card and think 'oh, man, i had better find a new hobby', AI/mining companies are thinking "I cannot beleive this thing that will earn us $200/month, only costs $800" And Nvidia really, REALLY wants to stop selling gaming cards at inflated gaming prices, because they're losing profits, for every $1600 4090 sold, they're losing ~$9000 in profits
we're now in november - the current drivers for 4060ti should further increase performance by 5-10%. also there is a rumored 4060super with 12gb and superiorspecs and performance which may end up being only slightly less than the 4070.
Nvidia right now reminds me of the old Intel days. I really hope the Intel Arc and AMD GPUs continue to improve and put real competitive pressure on Nvidia.
Well, a bummer it is. Thanks for the review! ❤
To be honest man if i was using my system for everything you listed there id rather just buy a RTX A4000 instead since that is the intended purpose of that GPU but for GPUs like the 3060 Ti, 4060 Ti and 4070 people would of been more interested in seeing gaming benchmarks since those would be gaming GPUs and mainly advertised for gaming.
Awesome video, but is the new 4060 TI with 16gb VRAM a good option, or do you recommend sticking with the 4070?
Games usually reserve more VRAM when there is more VRAM available. With Horizon, with identical settings, you can see that more VRAM is reserved if there is available, but that doesn't mean that the application really needs more VRAM. With 128 bit 4060ti 16gb, you shouldn't aim for WQHD gaming; even if it had 50GB VRAM, the 4070 super with 12GB VRAM would still be 50% faster.
It's the same with RAM, if you install more, more is reserved, but it doesn't create any added value. With a low-end graphics card, performance doesn't improve just because you install 32 or 64GB of RAM. Unfortunately, I see with many ready-made PCs that the setups lure in customers with large numbers rather than offering a sensible setup.
well, i went from Nvidia GT730, to a GTX960 that got fried from airfan failure 1 year after... lol. to RTX 3060TI .. and i cant say anything but i Love it! ;D 220$ for this card in late 2022 is a bargain =)
Great review! Highlights the way that NVidia is gaslighting pc owners that this 4060ti is in some way a generational improvement. NVidia have got themselves in such a tangle after the 4080 12gb relaunch that they've had to nerf the memory bus, the PCIe interface and the cores so that performance fits in line with the products that sit above it in the range. And whilst in terms of gaming benchmarks they (sort of) get away with it, with creator's benchmarks it is totally transparent that they are taking us for fools. As Tech Notice advises DO NOT BUY.
Você acha que a rtx 3070 e 3070ti é melhor que a 4060ti em trabalho? No meu país os dois estão com o preço parecido
I have 2060S strix 8GB, and still, it is a beast when considering it is 2 gen older and still the new ones doesn't have a lot of benefits except 3d rendering i hope the 5000 series will be so efficient it'll be worth it
Just a note about your charts. You should consider the new card as the variable, and quote it's performance relative to the older cards. You have confusingly quoted the performance of all the old cards to the new one.
There isn't a best value than the 2060 12gb for beginner creators. If you are just starting in the business, you can get going with it until you jump right to the 4090. Anything in the middle is not that interesting. Max RAM, a good processor and a 2060 12gb goes a loooong way in 3D.
Going for the same used prices as RTX 3060TI at CEX stores
@@Loppy2u yeah, but the 8gb of the Ti is not enough for render. Capacity is more important than speed in this case.
@@OficinadoArditoIt absolutely is enough unless you are rendering highly complex scenes with 4k textures. The 4060 is a better buy for someone just starting because It's way faster when rendering. The 2060 12gb would be better for someone already experienced and doing professional work. For a begginer they will start with a much slower gpu and not use the additional 4gb at all
@@ThePipojp the new 4060 16gb is the best value proposition, I guess. Not that much more expensive than the 8gb, and really worth it. If the budget is really constrained, I would still bet into vram and consider the ARC 770 16gb, especially for Unreal Engine. In Blender, the Optix is a big deal, so I would lean towards Nvidia. At least for my workloads, which are large scale civil engineering visualization, there is no substitute for vram and it is worth sacrificing some speed for some capacity.
@@OficinadoArdito Unfortunately there is no 16gb version of the 4060. The RTX 4060ti 16gb is a good option for blender though. For highly complex work not only vram matters a lot, but I'd personally look for something faster than a 60 series anyway. If that's what you do for a living then the 12gb 3060 or 2060is likely still not enough too tbh. Not only you can still easily exceed 12gb, those would be terribly slow when rendering very complex scenes.
The 4070 has enough vram and It's a lot faster, better to save up and get that. It's also a better bang for buck than the 4060ti 16gb
Noice graphics on the intro!
I forgot to say this a while back, but I was so happy that you fixed the audio issue for the sponsor that I went ahead and used your code to buy another product off WHOKeys. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the test ! IS the 16go gonna make a difference in 3d rendering? Or is it just going to be bottlenecked by the bus size?
If you can afford 500 dollar card, please buy the RX 6800 (non-XT). Better performance, and 16 GB VRAM for around the same price. Only noticable difference may be power draw, but if you are willing to waste your money on the 4060 Ti 16GB then I'm sure you got a good PSU.
Sent buy the 6800 either if you're a creator. I'd try to save some and go with 4070ti as it has dual encoders :)
Thanks y'all
@@theTechNoticeHey 🙂 I wanted to know the best AMD processor to take for a 4060Ti to avoid bottleneck and have the best possible performance in AM4 and also in AM5 (I play in 1440p)? (Let no one judge my choice of GPU, I want an NVIDIA I know that an AMD would be less expensive and with better performance.)
Im probebly gnne get the Zotac RTX 4070 12GB vram.
Currently using Zotac RTX 3070 and i have no complaints.
My Acer Predator Bifrost A770 OC arrives today. I'm over team red and team green.
Yikes. Almost thought about upgrading to this from 2060
A good upgrade for you is either radron rx 6800 or from the newer ones, rx 7900xt
Can you please compare it to the 3050?
Most anticipated 40 series card review.
I just don't understand such ''highly intelligent'' companies as Nvidia. They hire highly educated people, yet they release products that are worse than older products yet cost more.. Pardon me but what?? Maybe Nvidia should start using their so highly praised AI for developing new gpus, not human resources. Maybe than we will get something actually good..
I'd like to see a 4060ti vs Arc A770, both 8GB and 16GB, once the 16GB version of the 4060ti is available
If you had a graphics card with more memory than 16GB, more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
Its not just the 4060ti card in the test, the bad news holds even more for the 4070 according to your numbers. So its really something with the 40-series overall in some the tests you perform. Would not expect the 2060 super to perform on par with the 4070. It is a combination of software and hardware.
4060 is much faster in Blender Render than 780M 7940hs. Does 780M have any use for creative tasks, or is it at least not too much slower for Photoshop? 4060 needs huge 230W power brick, but 780M has tiny usb-c adapter.
Idk how did you test this graphic cards , but every benchmark that ive ever seen sais 4060 ti is WAY better than 3060 ti
According to hardware Unboxed, gamer nexus, and LTT, it is within binning/error of the 3060ti
Is it good in gaming wise I just order it and idk if I should cancelled it I have a 1660 ti should I cancelled ?
I never stream or content creation I just play games
You can ride out your 1660ti or not for more releases, price drops on the new/used market. Your time to choose if you want the best now or can hold on for more uplift in your price range.
Can you release a revised DAVINCI RESOLVE and premier pro comparing the 4060 Ti, 4070, 2060S and the 6750 and 6900 XT? I think it would be helpful to see where AMD stands given their price point is at least from a gaming perspective and especially for VRAM a worthwhile option to consider
5:38 I don't know if there is software called Adobe Photohop. To my knowledge, the most likely name is Photohot. CMIIW.
Wish they would send you a NVIDIA RTX A4000, looks like it has similar Max Power Consumption give or take like the RTX 4060 TI. Used market for 500, is the 100 extra worth it in time saved for creators?
Thanks for this video. Seems like a disappointing card. I hope you will put the 16gb version through its paces when it comes out. I would be especially interested to know if the 16gb vram is enough to render out moderately complex 8k projects in davinci resolve 😊😊😊
For 300$ a 4060ti is any good? I found a few around 330$ used. Maybe a few buyers found It was garbage for their workload, I need an RTX for Architecture and Photogrametry.
If you had a graphics card with more memory than 16GB, more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
looks like memory bus is an issue in photoshop and premiere...who knew?
I was waiting for your review ❤❤❤
Thank you!
And please tell me any other grafic card in this range please I need for productivity load 😊😊
Isn't this suppose to be a refresh of the 30 series and NOT a new gen card???At least they tried to make it look like one by cutting down everything from last gen ,I'm still going to buy a 3060 though !
Please suggest CPU 13700 or 13700K (price almost same in India ) i will not overclock and Build with Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX (Wi-Fi) Motherboard Please Reply
Go with the 13700 if you are not overclocking! Cheers
I found a deal at 380$ for the 16GB version. It will fit well the replacement of my GTX 1060 :)
How does the 4060 Ti fare against the 3060 12GB? Does the 3060 perform better due to the higher VRAM? In general VRAM is important as a creator.
The 3060 is a slow card compared to the 4060 ti and 3060 ti.
@@pf100andahalf
In gaming I know for sure that it is. But what about for content creators?
@@ionamygdalon2263 A 3060 ti is about 25% faster than a 3060, so take the 3060 ti numbers and cut them 25% and that'll put you in the ballpark.
Been looking for a mid range creator card for live streaming & recording AV1 at around $500-600 w/ 2x HDMI 2.1 ports. The closest thing I can find is a 4070Ti for like $800 which I refuse to pay, screw nvidia. Nvidia wants high prices for their midrange cards it's so ridiculous.
i upgraded to this from a 1070ti ftw, is that worth it
Want a gpu for rendering, 3d and game dev which to go for
4070
Genuinely wondering how you're able to get so high scores with the blender! My 4070 gets liek 2500 in the monster scene and you're getting 2100 loll
I always cringe when youtubers call 20 series ancient. First world problems I guess.
Puz this card in a pcie3 x16 board and test this
What will happen?
how about testing it in pcie 3.0..........
Nvidia is all in, and making incredible coin, on AI. I don't think they care anymore about gamers, or content creators on a budget. They could drop both those markets, and still make their stakeholders boatloads of money.
not bad if it was labeled what it was a 50 class card, and they dropped the price considerably... sigh
Nvidia up named the whole product stack the 3060Ti should have been the 3050Ti and the 4070 should have been a 4060 and the 4070Ti should have been the 4060TI. They used the performance gains from the new node to allow them to reposition the whole stack to keep massive margins.
yo does the key thingy work or is it a scam
Yeah, works:)
@@theTechNotice omg yes im building a pc for my bro but im a little over budget now i can get windows cheaper
@@theTechNotice yo tech notice i wanna build a pc very bad but i dont have enough money what do i do
If they just matched the specs of the 3060tj with the new hardware it'd probably e a good card
And to price it less? It makes no sense otherwise.
When 50 series comes
The rtx 3060 will be way stronger than rtx 5070 ti
Do the same test with and Rx 6600,Rx 7600
The GeForce RTX 4060 Ti has a paltry 128-bit bus but delivers an effective memory bandwidth of 554GB/s, higher than the 448GB/s offered by the 3060 Ti despite its wider 256-bit bus...its not a problem with the card its a caracteristic of the 4060 Ti series. Next time google it before say something like that.
Nvidia has really screwed up this time 😅
😢
@@theTechNotice Dont be sad, about it.They will learn a lesson it can help to everyone to customers, AIBs and Nvidia alike in long run. It wont bankrupt the Nvidia, it will just prove them being obviously wrong this time.
Please, for productiviti. Rtx 3070ti 8 gb Vram or 4060ti 16 gb Vram.
If you had a graphics card with more memory than more VRAM would be reserved than necessary for the same display. The 4060 ti runs on a 128-bit bus. You only have 4 memory chips with 4GB each. The 3070 with 8GB VRAM 256-bit bus with 8 memory chips has better performance in WQHD. Basically, the 4060 ti is more like a 4050, but people who think more VRAM creates better performance don't understand how a graphics card works and why the 16GB version doesn't create any added value in gaming. I seriously hope that people don't buy the graphics card because it's actually a scam.
Why feel bad about making this review? Are you worried about hurting Nvidia's feelings? I'm a 4090 owner and I'll be the first to tell you that their feelings don't count. They sure as hell don't care about gamers/consumers anymore.
NVIDIA SAYS -- BUY MORE and YOU SAVE MORE official ceo statement
Per Jensen @ Computex, Moore's law is running at 2x?
i got my 4070 ti to use it in unreal and 12gb vram its bad i wish i know it before to get 4080 it sucks due no one its testing gpus for unreal in youtube
lol, if the mass majority of gamers are still on GTX 1060, I can assure you that the 2060 super isnt "ancient"
Are people actually buying the 4060ti? My last card was a GTX970 and planned on purchasing a 4070, but the AMD options are better. Of course, then there is the power draw between AMD's last gen and Nvidia new gen, over the course of 2-years the $100 difference is made up in power savings, and that is here in middle of the corn fields America! I imagine in more expensive states or other parts of the the world the $4070 probably makes sense with the power savings over the 6800XT.
I just didn't want to spend more than $1300 to build a new PC and that has to include taxes and a monitor. Starting to think I need to increase this budget to $1700 or even a flat $2k. I am just a filthy casual but the math shows two options. 1. Build something with last gen tech, like a 6700XT and keep the price low(ish), or. 2. Build something that is nearly double the cost because the longevity will likely break even or even come out slightly ahead after four years or more.
basicly 4060ti is 2060 with dlss 3 🤣
The less you pay, the less you save.
From every review I’ve seen about the 4060ti’s performance has been a dumpster fire of a cluster f*ck. Did Nvidia really think that no one would pay attention to the bench testing and just buy it because it’s a 4000 series?
Basically its a chocolate fireguard
well its about damn time :(
also, why "Feel bad about making this review"?
If it isn't obvious, the 4060 ti is supposed to be a worse GPU and the 4070 is supposed to be a 4060 ti (or even a 4060) but hey, moving the number up makes them sell the card for more.
Got a rtx 3070 zotac few days ago and is awsome.
Pretty much lines up with what Puget said, this card is pretty much a disappointment all around.
Looks like I'll hang on to my 2070 Super for a while.
RTX 4060Ti is a shame.
it is just a 50-class card.