The story of my Orchid Phalaenopsis Mini Mark
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- So this is the story of my orchid Phalaenopsis Mini Mark. Yes, he is a Phal, but I just love him :) no matter how much unimpressed I am by Phals, this guy is the exception.
The problem is that he suffers from some sort of infection which I cannot properly diagnose, nor do I think I can treat, but I suspect can be overcome by the orchid. Or at least I hope.
My dilemma is should I take him with me and risk the well being of other orchids, or should I just give up on him? Hard decision. What should i do?
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+Jessica prater lol :))
Don't give up on Him. he is a beauty and has such a long history.
+David Yu I decided to take him with me, thanks for the encouragement :D
They are indeed hard to find in the US. People often kill them too because of over-watering. Both parents of the Mini Mark do not like wet roots and will rot if the roots are kept wet for more than 3 days and it temps of 65 or below. I grow them spag in clay pots like my neos. The clay a speeds up the moss dry time. I let them stay dry for 3 days and then water again. If you are in the US. Peter Lin of Big Leaf Orchids in Texas imports them. Had been looking for one since 2017 so I ended up buying several.
I agree that this is a really hard decision, but you've had it for years, and its still alive and blooming :) I say you should keep him with you and just you said, just keep him in the house, where the disease won't spread to the other orchids :)
+Sean Chen yes he does seem to be a fighter and if he really is, he has great chances to overcome his sickness :)
Take him with you. 1. wash the stippled leaves in warm water. 2. Insecticidal soap. Horticultural oil. Orthene. Now if that seems to overwhelming or too chemical, get fresh goats milk and apply a thin film on the top leaves only; this will be a healing band-aid.
+diana thompson thanks for the recipe :) sadly these leaves will die pretty soon due to the extreme damage so even if wounds heal, the leaf is too damaged to survive for too long.
I love your mini mark! Ever since I saw it on your channel I've had my eyes set on it. Love the orange and the whole character it has. Still waiting for my flipping moment when I get to own one. Take it with you and keep it in your collection!!!!
+tianshi551 thank you :D are you from Europe? one of my viewers saw it at Currlin online shop, maybe try to order one from there :)
+MissOrchidGirl I'm in Hong Kong :) I always try the flower market here but they have random selections at times
hallo Danni, as I understood you are not completely sure whether it is a virus or not. maybe my following questions will help you decide whether to take it with you or not: is your mini mark a vigorous grower? does he have problem to produce new roots? does he have a good developed root system? how are the flowers: do they have deformations, color breaks etc? do they last long or not? often bud blast? So if the only problem of your mini mark are the markings on the leaves, I would definitely keep the orchid, because whatever it can be, the orchid is strong enough to defeat its disease. If the orchid is a poor grower, no matter how you try to help it, it wont perform as good as a similar healthy orchid. I discarded almost all my virused orchids because they were poor growers and their flowers lasted only for a couple of days, or they had color breaks etc. Why do I need to keep sick plants if they dont perform well? But i still have one virused cattleya left (also have kind of emotional attachment to it). It grows well. nice roots, flowers reliably every year, the only problem after a week or so you can see slight streak markings on its flowers. Anyway it is a good idea to keep your mini mark separately till you find out what it is. Hope that will help you :)
+NinaVanini Hi Nina, that is a very good point and yes my virused orchid were not vigorous at all. This guy is, he came back to life quit well after losing his leaves so.. I think I will just give him a chance :) thanks for the encouragement!
absolutely take it, because even if you order another one, chanses are that it will not have yellow shades on the petals, it will be all white with orange spots. That's my opinion, if it will become so bad you want to trow it out, maybe you could give it away to a orchid nursinary and they could polinate the flowers and make some fresh plants for yourself and for the market, so you could be paid as well for that :)
+Vytautas Poška thanks for the advice :) well I think by pollination I will spread the disease so.. no propagation for him :P but yep I think I'll take him and study the disease further :)
I absolutely love the mini mark! It's the one orchid I will buy whenever I find it. And I don't even like orange but there's something about this plant that I find irresistible. I would try to save it.
+Sandra Laurentino Thanks Sandra, I hope you find it in person he such a charming little guy, the flowers look waxy a bit, tiny and sweet :D just a great contrast between the white and orange :D
I'm a real fan of the Mini Mark. 💓
I don't have advice on the possible virus/damaged leaf, but I do think that he would be worth saving and keeping in a room in your house and seeing how he behaves there, rather than throwing him away! He has obviously shown you the potential to be "normal" so I'd say keep him! I just recently bought one from EBay so mine is wishing yours good health!
+Anna Thornburn Thanks Anna, that is very true he just pulled though so many things, I think he is a strong orchid given half a chance :) that's why I am just so torn, he wants to live.. damn it I might just take him and study the disease further, keep him in a separate room as well :)
how nice that your boyfriend is interested in orchids as well. I'm looking forward to your new home and all the videos that will come!
your mini mark is definitely a fighter and deserves a chance by your side. I hope you will get rid of all the spidermites!
after I saw the mini mark in your videos I was so happy to find this orchid as well. I was lucky enough to find a normal and a peloric which has cute wings.
I wish you a nice day!
+Na iskos ow how nice!! be sure to smell them in the morning light, they might have a fragrance too ;)
You should definitely keep it! If your worried about it affecting your other orchids you could keep it in your bedroom or something. Hopefully you will keep it along with the liodoro:) and although you can always buy another one, it won't have that sentimental value. It looks too pretty to leave behind:)
+Diego Pineda Thanks Diego, yep good idea, he will be my bedroom orchid hehe :D
Yeah take it with you :)
I think it'll bounce back to the way it was. Especially since it has a unique trait in the flowers. I would still get another one though, just to see the difference in the blooms.
+Rosanna Rodarte I am thinking the same :) one for the gh, one for the house :P I really want the Holm variety since it's fragrant :D
I wouldn't worry about it. Those silvery patches are probably just chlorotic patches produced by mechanical damage to the cells by the spider mites feeding, and the symptoms don't appear to present in the flowers. I'd take the little guy, and you can always isolate it for a season if you're uncertain about it (just to see if the damage continues to appear, even with the spider mites controlled).
+Pogue Mahone U know, I read some articles suggesting that is just a cell agglomeration produced by the orchid to protect herself from the damage.. but then you read this www.staugorchidsociety.org/PDF/SAOSNewsletter201002.pdf page 7 .. so you have no idea what it really is.. no one does :)))
As you love this orchid I would say take it with you, The new leafs look clear of this infection, And the older ones will fall off sooner or later, And the plant is otherwise healthy, As from that you said its difficult to find, So at least wait till you find a replacement, Otherwise you may end up regretting your decision to dump it, :-)
+Rosemary457 you are right, I can just keep him in a separate room and maybe try to find the fragrant variety in the mean time :) thanks for the tip!
one of my phals had this exact spider mite damage and virus and once the affected leaves dropped the rest of the plant was absolutely fine... take your baby with you....
+kim zorza thanks for sharing this! I am assuming you managed to get rid of mites as well and the problem didn't appear again?
Oh my, that's a difficult choice. Ever since I saw this orchid on your channel I've been wanting it. It's impossible to find it here. I think you should keep it, you seem so careful.
+Sunah Yun hehe I try to be, but you never know. I might just keep it in a totally separate room :)
Take it but isolate for a season ... It's cute , the new environment may help solve the issue ... Good luck !
If I where you I would definitely keep the orchid. Maybe It's just me, because I'm just way too attached to my orchids :D
Also, you mention that your boyfriend loves phals. Try to get a hand on kaleidoscope phaleonopsis (I think they are also called "golden treasure" phaleonopsis :D ) These are my personal favorite phals :) I don't think I ever saw one in your collection :)
+MisGrudge hi, yes I never bought one because I never really liked them :) it's just a preference, maybe I'll see a really pretty one at the store one day, but I want to get at least some less common phals for him :))) but he insist he wants a dark purple one lol
just take it. if it's not the orchid it will be others with problems, at least you already know all the history behind. plus, a new place might make some good to the little fellow. ✌
+Priscilla Estevinho yes that is true, it would also be a good opportunity to study this disease more :)
I just bought a mini mark and the seller told me that Mini Mark likes a little less light that regular phalaenopsis and likes to stay on the dry side. Is this good advice?
Hello Dani! This is my first time commenting to one of your videos but I've been watching them for about an year now. That's when I got my first orchid and wanted to learn all about them. Thanks to you I never had a casualty and I even managed to save a couple of too well-watered presents. Thank you.
Regarding the Mini Mark, I think those are just healed wounds of where the mites munched on and I suspect that once you get rid of the little critters the new leaves will come up healthy. I have a similar looking leaf on one of my phals because it got wounded by a cactus :D (I've re-potted it and leaned it towards a dense needled cactus-now it looks like it has freckles all over that leaf). Anyways, I would like to see the progress on the little guy after you get rid of the mites also, so please keeeeep him. :D
+KelevRa G Hello, thank you for commenting and watching my videos :) you are right, it is a good opportunity to study his evolution as long as I keep him away from everyone else and get rid of the mites. Think that is what I will do, if other people will go through this at least I will know what to tell them and how to get rid of the problem if it is solvable :) thanks for the feedback!
I would take it & keep it away from the other phals :) You seem so attached to it, I think you'd feel a loss if it wasn't in your collection!
+ScrapAngie88's Life yes that is pretty true, thanks for the input! :D
The sentimental/physical value is far to high to toss him away!
KEEP HIM AND TAKE HIM WITH YOU!!!!!
Sincerely Matt
+Matt P. thanks for the input :D
no problem!
I just bought this little cutie pie 🥰 I couldn’t resist! @Dani, did you end up bringing him along?
Yes I did! ☺️
Hope you kept him. Maybe a terrarium like Ikea to keep him isolated
Hi Danny. I know that feeling. What to do? If I were you, I would take it with me but I would keep it away from the rest of my orchids. I can´t stand the thought of leaving one of my babies behind. Thanks for your great videos. All the best.
+Juanan Devesa yes you are right.. plus he is pretty vigorous so.. maybe he is not so affected :) think I will take him with me :P
I'd try to save it. It's a nice little plant.
+Victor Baker ok thanks for the encouragement :)
Hi! How about leaving him temporarily with a friend or somebody who can take care of him and see how the virus situation develops? Maybe if he has keikis, you can have one of his "descendants" :p
+PlantsInThenight Flourishing oh no, I don;t think anyone can keep him free of mites and well away from other plants, too risky, it's me or no one else hehe :P
I would discard it but I would struggle to keep it separate.
It is funny about your boyfriend loving purple phals. My husband is completely smitten with the purple phal I have. I am not so in love with it.
PS By a mad coincidence I was given a Mini Mark two days ago. I fell in love with it when my friend ordered one from Schwerter in last September's order and I had to mind it, in flower, for her for about a month :)
+Gardening at Douentza You know what I mean then, when you see it it's love at first site, one of those orchids that just charms you with it's delicate nature..
+MissOrchidGirl I understand completely. But I need to be careful not to turn into Astrid (who dislikes phals but has millions ;-) )
+Gardening at Douentza bhahaha ow dear.. guess who will be that person :p I'll try to find some really special hybrids though :P
I would take him with you and also I think if you could make some how to care for moth orchids in your home would be a great idea and would very much help me :)
+Uk Bus Man thanks, yes I will have videos for home conditions too. I have a tutorial on Phals though, did you see it? th-cam.com/video/Mce-ne6NyL0/w-d-xo.html
Hey Danny, I think as long as you keep him in quarantine there should be no risk of contamination to the rest of your collection, especially if you're not keeping him in the greenhouse. You seem to have a special attachment to this guy so give him a chance, worst that can happen is he gets sick and you have to throw him away, but at least you know you gave him a chance. That's just my humble opinion, though.😊👍🏼
+John Greco Thanks John, yes I tend to agree, he looks like a fighter if I give him a chance :) and he is a good boy, always bloomed nice.. yeah he will be a bedroom orchid I think :P
awe, I remember your other video on him....I'm a sentimental gal, I say take him, just keep him separate from the others.
+Sheena Johnson thanks for the feedback Sheena, I might just keep him in a separate room :)
Take him, he bounced back once he can do it again, don't let the spider mites win, just give him his own "special spot" to live in. :)
I cut every individual blossom once you mix your poly resin . Oh but first buy those flexible ice cube trays made out of like rubber and put a thin coat of vaseline in the mold and then mix your polyresin and fill mold half way and place the flower facing you and the pour the resin over it enough to cover the flower then if you need to adjust the flower use a tooth pick but you must hurry before the resin starts to cure and let dry .
+Ellofez oh that's a cute idea, but won;t it rot inside the resin? I mean cos it has moisture and also some air inside the flower..
+MissOrchidGirl Yes use a Silica gel to dry the blooms .
+Ellofez oooh yah that's a great idea :D I bet they look great as necklaces ;)
I'd take it and put it somewhere away from your other phals in a quarantine so hopefully the virus doesn't spread on your other phals! this ones very special let's hope it gets better :)
+Danny Fenty thanks Danny, think that's what I will do :) it will be also educational to see if he can overcome this disease and maybe study the disease further since no one really knows what it is :)
Hello Danny! I saw the 100% same orchid. Mini Mark with these yellow stripes on its petalum that make it special. its available in germany. but it's pricy. 19EUR+15,50 shipping
+LevelD1985 thanks for the tip :D yeah it is pretty expensive for what it is, it would make sense to include it in a bigger order but alone, not worth the money.
MissOrchidGirl yeah that's true!
I say take it because he has his own spirits. But take him :)
+Thanh Ha hehe he does have his own personality yes :) thanks for the input!
Can mini marks be fragrant? Im making a fragrant orchids wishlist. I was always attracted to the mini mark since I love the colors and spotted pattern, plus I do prefer smaller flowers. I already wanted to get my hands on one, but if it can be fragrant I will have to look further! :)
Hi, well some Mini Marks are fragrant yes :) mine is not, I don;t know if there is a cultivar that has a fragrance and what the name is, but some people do have a fragrance on their Mini Mark orchid :)
Hi Danny, how did you treat the spider mites? Do you think neem oil can be a solution? P.S you should take Mini Mark with you :-)
+Eric Duan hello, I actually gave up the fight and will use pesticide.. it's impossible to treat 150 orchids at once with biological measures like neem oil (which doesn't work). I got rid of them on a few orchids with hair spray :)
I would keep that 'chid!
+ramonypony awwww calling them 'chids only makes me love them more.. my babies :P
Just got one! I read that it MUST be allowed to go bone dry for 2-3 days. Do you let yours dry?
I would like to have a Phal. Mini Mark. it's on my wish list.
+Maria H. I think you have great chances to find it soon, it's not that rare :)
I tought virus infections on orchids affected the flowers as well. Am I wrong? This is what I red anyway. This lead me to think that this is not a virus, so that it may be treatable with a systemic fungicide or bactericide.
+Cam M Hi, well not all viruses and not all the time :) the most common viruses, the orsv and cymv can show signs on flowers, not all the time. this however is an unknown virus / fungus.. www.staugorchidsociety.org/PDF/SAOSNewsletter201002.pdf page 7 though what they say is a bit wrong but.. as you can see, they have no idea what exactly it is either since they don;t know that plants don;t die from it :P
New cane on cattleya is growing almost horizontally. And it is producing buds. Should I try to tie it and make it bit straight or keep it as it is?
+Niket Patil well depends on how rigid it is, if you pull it up too much you might snap it. maybe just try to see how flexible it is, but if it's not flexible at all better not risk it.
Honestly I'd say yes, take him. As long as he's isolated from the rest there's very little risk of it spreading, if it even is a virus.
+Joshua Ray Simpson thanks for the input.. thee is a high chance I will take him :P
MissOrchidGirl I would too, he's gorgeous!
With all you've been through lately with your mite problem and being in the process of breaking down everything for transport to Cy, I wouldn't take a chance (gamble) and would send the plant to the bin straight away without a second thought... Just not worth it, in my opinion. Why even subject yourself to the worry; fear of what can easilly happen at this stage of the game; during transport and upon relocation... Good luck in whatever you decide.. :)
+John Benedict ORCHIDS well that is very true and I thought about it like that. However this can also be a good opportunity to figure out how this disease acts and just study it further.. since internet doesn't give a straight answer I am a bit intrigued by it.. so maybe if I keep it in the bedroom or something it would work, I am just not ok with not knowing what is going on :P if I manage to make the infection disappear I could help other people or at least have an idea what causes it and if orchids can survive it.. hmmm not sure.. I mean yes I had enough drama.. but then again what if other people go through this as well and don't know how to solve the issue and what causes it and they just lose orchids too. That's my dilemma :))
I SAID ABSOLUTELY YES.......Just keep it away from ur others!!!!
+jinxx ok thanks for the input!
I did the poll. If you like it, you should bring it :) just keep it away from the other phals :)
Simple :) lol
+Andrew Fan Thanks Andrew.. yep hehe quite simple.. and yet so difficult lol think I will take him and keep him in the bedroom or something :P
Take it! It is super nice! The second best choice is to send to me! I'm in Mexico ;)
+Carlos Daniel Velez Loyola thank you :D well I am not ok with sending diseased orchids to my viewers and there is a chance it will not make it over the border, each country has its own rules and legislation when it comes to shipping live things :(
MissOrchidGirl Jejeje :D You can name it Dr. Lecter and put it on a warden case. That way it will be isolated and perfectly fine and poses no risk for your other orchids :D
Hey Danny, just in case he doesn't make it, Currlin Orchideen has it in stock now flowering with 3 spikes for €19.95! Here is the link: www.currlin.com/en/online-shop/produkt/1862-phalaenopsis-mini-mark.html
+John Greco oh awesome, thanks for the link :D yes he is not a rare orchid but sometimes you cannot find it anywhere hehe :P
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. This is the principle of vaccination. So if your plant survives, it will be better able to fight off a future infection from this virus(?)/ microbe.
+DrinkingStar yep it would be awesome if he starts producing anti bodies for this infection at some point :)))
what did you decide at the end? is it survived?
Hi! your Mini Mark is really lovely and while i wish i knew enough to give you some advice im just a happy orchid fan with little knowledge about this paticular subject unfortunatly :( I do have a question for you if you have time that is ;) I have this really nice Phalaenopsis ive been keeping for over a year now and i think its a bit loony, shes been blooming non stop (well taking a little break making a new flower branch or buds but constantly working on flowers) she has her old spike that has a new active brach (cut of what had withered of it) a "old" new flower spike thats like 6months or so and shes making two new ones! told you shes loony, she has started being a bit droopy in the leaves and im worried shes blooming her self to death :s now my question is should i cut some of the spikes to stop her using so much energy, or just let her go on?
+Umla80 She sounds like a great bloomer, some orchids are genetically predisposed to this, I had a phal blooming for a year and a half constantly :) now about the limpy leaves, that is a bit worrying. Ok before doing anything check the root system and see if it is ok, you can see it through the pot. Also try to offer a bit more water, all the spikes and flowers take a lot of sap to form so she might just be drinking more water than what she used to. So first, before cutting anything, give her a soak (submerge the pot into a bowl of water, just until the rim of the pot, don't submerge all the orchid), leave it for 10-15 minutes, drain it and put it back in its place. This will soak the roots and bark. The next day the leaves should look better. And keep an eye on it to see when it dries, when it is dry or almost completely dry, soak again. Now if soaking and watering a bit more often doesn't help then yes, I think she is exhausting herself and cutting one of the spikes from the base will help. But first make sure roots are ok, if they are not, then it's a different story all together. Hope this helped :)
+MissOrchidGirl thank you so much , ill defenetly do as you suggested i really love this orchid shes been so generous with the flowering i want to make sure she gets the care and love she needs
+Umla80 no problem, good luck!
You already promised me you'd take him! Lol you have to!!
Hello Danny are they gonna go bit bigger?
Onde é esta localidade ? P enviar p o Brasil, como é feito o envio?
I'm still on the market for one of these. I don't know why they're so hard to find in the western U.S. :(
+somethinguncreative Hello, I have a video that has a list of stores for the USA in the description, check it out here th-cam.com/video/WZYW1NRoYZU/w-d-xo.html maybe you can find it at one of these stores :) good luck hope this helps!
Thank you, Dani! I'm sure that at least one of these stores could help. :)
+MissOrchidGirl what is the climate for your orchids in your house?
+Brody Sayle well I can describe it as intermediate, similar to a home environment but with some more humidity in winter time and some more light during summer time :)
Keep it ☺
If it's in bloom I would see how to encase the in poly resin and make piece of jewelry out of it remember him by and let him go to orchid heaven. And buy yourself a new one later .
Where do spider mites come from?
+Thanh Ha well usually they come from a new plant that had the infestation and spread it to the other orchids, it is a pretty common pest so any plant at the store can have it.
Definately not - in my opinion. You can buy one here, and they have gorgous orchids. Last time I checked, I wanted half their stock:
www.orchideeen-shop.nl/eng-show-artikel.php?artikel=1061&plantnaam=Phalaenopsis%20Mini%20Mark%20%20%20&small=1
+Helle Ascanius Jørgensen Thanks Helle, oh btw have you ever ordered from that site? I had a viewer telling me they had some issues with ordering from this store and was not sure if I should order from them..
+MissOrchidGirl I've ordered from them twice and I've been pretty pleased with them! You'll find a lot of plants have two separate prices and the lower always is the smaller plant which is what I ended up with. I have only lost one orchid from them which was a masdy but that was my own fault and not them! I'd order from them again definitely :-)
+MissOrchidGirl Yes, I have ordered from them, and the orchids were gorgeous, really healthy. There's nothing to be worried about.
+Anna Thornburn ok thanks for the feedback, might try an order too :)
you call the mini mark "he" and your other orchids "she" ?
yes :)) here's an explanation th-cam.com/video/l90l6Sb29hM/w-d-xo.html
take him or if not save a spike and tissue culture him back to life
+jai mac oh tissue culture, this is an area I have no expertise on and probably not the proper tools to do :))) it would be fun to try it one day though :P
It is easier than it sounds. You need a sterile area with flask( any container with s lid and tissue medium) sterilized take your choice of plant to propagate sterilize it and place in flask seal it and place in a warm area where it will get day and night(type/strength does not matter it just wants to know when it is day amend night) the rest is just time. To bad I don't live closer to you or could send the spike to me to do for you: (
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+deadbones bones hello, I'll check it out in a bit :) if you have specific questions just leave me a comment here with the question, you can also link a video that shows the problem. I tend to go through all my comments and answer them all so I might sometimes forget to watch channels :) but feel free to leave me links :)