@@lazyg3n so when you're first falling for someone you ignore their faults and issues that are huge red flags because you're in that stage of I'm in love aka rose colored glasses. Because red flags when looking through rose colored lenses just look like flags. Every thing when looking through Rose colored glasses looks red. So a red flag is missed with that lense. Which then in retrospect is obvious. But you were blinded by the rose colored glasses you were putting on. This is why an outside perspective from your friends on a relationship is important. To warn you to be careful. Because they're not wearing the lenses to blind them.
One of the most honest and believable break up scenes I've seen. That "rose colored glasses" line is some poignant shit. And wise. Then again she IS an owl...
@@simonj3413 Depends on your definition of sex. I bet he could lick her, and she could caress his shaft with her wings and claws. But there'd be better couplings for sure.
@GitGoodLol part of bojack being a great show is they play with the audiences emotions and aren’t afraid to steer away from what people actually wanted. like bojack wanting to be happy we wanted him to be with karla because she makes him happy. this is why the show simply couldn’t have kept her she made him too happy and he wasn’t good enough for that and the show wanted us to know that
@@perfectlyinhuman when it comes to people, a "red flag" is basically something in their behavior that indicates or draws attention to a problem, danger, or irregularity that they may have in their personality, just how a normal red flag draws attention to, say, a dangerous area. When you look at someone with "rose-colored glasses", that means you're looking at that person in a romantically idealized way, and it makes you overlook their flaws, hence why the "red flags" are just "flags", since you cannot distinguish them as red compared to everything else. Once you take off those "glasses", though, as in, you stop viewing that person in a romantically idealized way, then the red flags become very apparent.
Danny Luck I think the rose colored glasses represents how you view someone you love, and “red flags just look like flags” means when ur in love people tend overlook the other persons major flaws.
“Same thing that always happens. You didn't know me. Then you fell in love with me. And now you know me.” Is what really hit me. Because ot seems to describe how a lot of relationships (romantic and not) go with me.
Not to put you down but the point of this scene and what is most likey the issue in your relationships. Is that you needed to work on yourself. Bojack says you didn't know me and now you do. The problem wasn't that she fell on love with someone she didn't know. The problem is that he's not someone you want to know. He has alot of negativity, issues, and trauma he needs to work on. This doesn't mean he can't develop relationships with people as evidence of the people in his life that actually care about him. But it does make it hard to develop healthy relationships. You can take breaks from friendships but once you make a romantic commitment to someone it's not good to be on again and off again. So in other words go to therapy first and try relations later.
2 years old but she appears to be an mix of different types of owls, barn owls(or anything in that family) have heart shaped faces, and horned owls have yellow eyes and the obvious horns
I feel for you. I’ve been in an abusive relationship too and this breakup just hits close to home for me. I wish I was as wise as Wanda was and left sooner though
"Im sorry things have been so hard for you, but that doesnt give you the right to be shitty to me" we have all heard and said something along these lines to someone and its so iconic everyone talks about the rose tinted glasses quote, that one is the one that stuck with me
Having an emotional empathy is actually clear sign that you're not a psychopathic person. Not that all of them are problematic. You have the gift to relate to emotions no matter the cover. Maybe being in love with animation my whole life made me use to empatise with the emotions of humanoid animals. I was also racially blind as a child, I just didn't realize there was any visual difference, I just understanded that every human being looks different. I don't even remember when I learned about races... And I wrote a whole "poem", sorry about that. 😅 I ment you are a wonderful person and there's nothing wrong with you. Greetings from Bulgaria and please, excuse my English... 😅🇧🇬
"I can't be around someone's who's just fueled by bitterness and negativity." "Well then what are you doing here?" My last 3 relationships in a nutshell.
Wanda, although hurt, and obviously the victim in this, can acknowledge her own faulty vision (ironic for an owl) as part of the problem. It would be easy for her to just blame the other and pity her own self. BoJack is a textbook narcissist who, at this rare moment, is sincere enough to show all the real shame and self loathing a narc has behind the facade of arrogance, grandiosity and enablement. Unique scene with nothing pompous and fake in it. Just a bitter - bone crushing truth.
The thing people seem to either forget or ignore is that, well, Bojack is a horrible person despite his "real" aspect to him. He isnt someone you are supposed to enjoy identifying with. You are suppose to see some of yourself and not want to end up like him. People went through worse things than him and yet came out just fine. Bojack is a "likable" villain protagonist
@@guilhermehank4938 Completely agree enjoyed your take, when it comes to people relating strongly to Bojack I feel like the show would have something to say about the comfort of not being the only one whos broken. Its almost validating, and its my belief that people inherently lash out at the criticisms levied against said validation.
I really think that Wanda was the best relationship Bojack had in the series, maybe even the only healthy one. She was the only one who Bojack just legitimately enjoyed spending time with, and had an adult relationship with. With Anna it was only sex and when he knew her personally he didn’t enjoy it, and Gina started as sex but Bojack got attached, and Gina was still distant. I think that if Wanda and Bojack met one another at different times in their lives they coukdve really had something.
Absolutly not. Bojack is a selfish piece of shit, who turned himself into a caricture of self-destruction. It's no wonder we never see Wanda anywhere near that tire-fire.
Wanda's a pretty reasonable person, she wouldve left Bojack after his mistakes came to light and even if she met him afterwards I doubt she'd engage with him romantically.
"Same thing that always happens. You didn't know me. Then you fell in love with me. And now you know me." That....honestly hurts a little bit. He's so damn lost.
“Is it true you once dated a woman who had just woken up from a 30 year coma? Were you attracted to her naivety too?” Those word hurt in the final season, especially after re-watching their relationship.
I was horribly abusive to my last girlfriend, but because I never yelled at her or hit her I never thought I was abusive, I didn't even see my own red flags. When she left it showed me how terrible I really was. She didn't know me, then she fell in love with me, then she knew me
Same thing happen to me. You dont need to be violent to hurt someome. I lost her but that helps me to find myself. I hope everything it's good now bro.
That's what I have done too. I couldn't love myself and therefore couldn't love her the way she deserved. Now she's gone and it opened my eyes to all my shitty behavior but it's too late now. I loved her and I will live with my guilt forever. I hope she at least believes I am so truly sorry for all the pain I've caused even though I'll never get to make it right. I don't know how to forgive myself I just hope I change I don't want to be poison anymore
“When you look at someone through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.” it hurts that this reminds me of my mom and my older sister
That line made me realize I needed to end an abusive relationship I was in. It was an epiphany of sorts after months of clouded thoughts, and ringing in my ears of people worried.
She has so many funny lines. The one about her pitching the WTC magic trick with David Copperfield and everyone's awkwardly stalling until one of them pussies out and lies "David Copperfield isn't a draw anymore," or just for an actual line "I haven't had sex in 30 years... I hope." Man I miss her. Good voice work!
everyone talking about the rose coloured glasses one but the one that really hit me was the “ you didn’t know me, you fell in love with me.. and now you know me.” pretty much me in a sentence 😃
BC the rose colored glasses hits harder. Bojack's quote is from self pity and is obviously not true. However, the other quote reflects the response to how she handled bojack and his insecurities. Which we all fall victim 2.. No matter who you are, good or bad.
Whenever I think about my last relationship, I always come to the glasses line. Actually, I come to that line in general quite a bit still. You never realize that all the signs were right there and you just never could point them out yourself...
Does anyone else think about this quote way more than they should, and is afraid that the guy they fell in love is going to figure out who you really are and you’re gonna lose them because of it
Who you really are is a reflection of your thoughts. If you don't heal you will allow that part of you to form into your ego and once it does you'll have to kill your whole ego just to fix it. The real you is fine in all it's glory and grace. As long as you live your life to better yourself and others you aren't as "ugly" as you think. You must love you first or no one will ever know how to.
Wanda has such a good head on her shoulders. She knew that it wasn't justified for him to take out his garbage on her. She refused to tolerate any bad treatment - she got luckier than most of his victims because of it.
coming back to this scene hurts so much. I can relate to bojack. every time I get into a new relationship everything is good at first until my overthinking starts and then I start sabotaging every good thing about the relationship. I self sabotage to avoid the pain later on and do it faster to avoid getting attached. one of the things that sucks most about having bpd is attachment issues and self sabotaging especially when you like that person so much... I had a partner like Wanda once in my life. I hope their doing good....
Hey. I've got BPD and relate to Bojack too. It's tough to see everyone focusing on his narc side, especially as someone who has suffered narcssistic abuse (which he also did). I really feel like people decide they'd rather not be around me once they know me... Which isn't necessarily true, but you know; bpd.
The rose colored glasses line is good, but Bojacks line of you didn't know me and now you know me hits me harder cause that is how I feel everytime I meet new people and they get weirded out by me.
I’ve watch this show literally one time through about 5 years ago and forgot most of everything. I just recently went through a rough breakup in my long-term relationship where I didn’t notice the red flags until after we ended things. Somehow this exact quote came rushing to my head and made me bawl my eyes out because it’s so unbearably real.
"when you're wearing rose coloured glasses all the red flags just look like flags" this phrase will always hit hard for me. Just because you fall in love with someone doesn't mean they're good for you.
This was the best show when I was depressed and going through recovery. Really connected with it because I myself felt like an animal that was out of control
I wish I treated her better. I let alcohol get in the way and now she’s gone. I’m going give up alcohol and hope I can win her back. She’s the best thing that ever happened to me in my entire life.
I dated a girl with BPD and bipolar and she loved this scene. But it exactly describes our relationship and the break up…. I hope people get the help they did, and stop the self pity parties.
Most people put their best self first in relationships and as time wears on it’s hard to keep up that mask with the highs and lows in life. Relationships (with yourself and others) are for taking off the mask and becoming the person you wanted the mask to look like. Shit happens, sink or swim… sometimes a little of both too. The truth is the person wearing “rose-tinted glasses” has such high expectations that the other person can’t keep up and makes for a bitter relationship. Both want the person they met in their mind instead of who that person is underneath it all. That means the good times and the bad folks.
i’ve noticed that most people are talking about the romantic parts of this conversation, but one of the things that struck me was “well i’m sorry that things have been so hard for you, but that doesn’t give you the right to be shitty to me.” it might just be me but sometimes… i really do want to direct my bitterness and negativity at the person who hurt me so badly. i want them to hurt or at least understand just how much they hurt me. but… they made their choice, and i want them to be happy. maybe it’s time to just… let go, and also find happiness for myself
This scene really hits you.Its also funny that we have laws and legal punishments for physical abuse but none for emotional abuse.Anyone out there staying in such a relationship don't wait for them to change.Do what is best for you both.It will be a lot better to be out of misery than pretending that everything is fine.Cheers!
Whats even more messed up is Bojack actions show us that he never cared about Wanda. When Bojacks realizes he wants real healthy love after this fight, what dose he do? He doesn't reach out to apologize to Wanda. You know, his loving supportive girlfriend that he just had an ugly fight with and was unecessarily mean to. No, instead he drives out to New Mexico to track down a woman he had a crush on over 30 years ago. Still expecting her to be the same young single childless 20 something year old he knew back then and assume she would just run off with him like a typical Hollywoo romance. (And we see how well that went for him) Yet he had a woman who clearly loved him right in LA, got along with him really well and most likely would've forgiven him after this fight. Yet Bojack never thinks about her or mentions her again. He spends so much time mopping over other women he's hurt, but not Wanda. Even when Biscuits mentions her in the interview Bojack still dosen't think much about her. Wanda is probably the only woman Bojack could've had a healthy romance with. She was age appropriate, good natured and wasn't dating him for his money or celebrity status, she really loved him. Bojack instantly forgets her after this fight and instead of trying to save the relationship he abandoned it for a fantasy that ends up hurting even more people who cared about him. I really wish in the final season she would've appeared again to call him out on all this.
Person should change to the better rather than keep being "now you know me, i am the bad guy, this is me, i can't be helped". This behavior is hurtful to other ppl around them yet they have no intention to make it better
Bojack: well then what are you doing here? A good question and maybe one of the most sensible things he said to Wanda considering how he is treating her. I can’t believe he blew his one chance at happiness before hollyhock.
I said the same thing about red flags to my abuser, and the girl she’s dating now. Only difference is, Bojack got help, and she refuses to. Know when to say goodbye.
This show has so many layers,onions get jealous. I 🙄when someone said it’s great- then I watched it. It’s more poignant at times than Oscar award winning movies. The Alzheimer’s scenes when the faces are just scribbles were like guy kicks. You forget they are humanoid animals soon into the show. Just incredible. I would yell at the screen when I knew Bojack was about to screw things up for himself again- I was that invested in a horse cartoon. I mean...it’s pretty damn incredible.
Wanda’s line about “but that doesn’t give you the right to be shitty to me” hits hard as someone who’s been in an emotionally abusive relationship. I always felt like I wasn’t enough because they’d take their anger out on me. Sometimes it’s better to be alone than with someone who tries to drag you down so you feel just as shitty as they do.
In 2021 April, after nearly 8 month of continuous talking I developed emotions towards someone. I decided to see this person physically. This person refused to meet me in the end and told me : So you love me, without knowing me (although I felt it could be or was mutual…) and those words still chase me this day. This scene reminds me of that, and I still dont understand what this person has meant by that. What was the reason to cut me off that I was not aware of behind those rose colored glasses… was it trauma, pain, jealousy, acting like they like me but dont… I will never know
Bojack ruined this relationship more than others. (Not counting Gina). He didn't have to act like this but he did because he didn't want to admit she was right.
That rose-coloured glasses quote absolutely shook me
one of the best metaphors for the painful parts of love I've ever heard or read
Same, just broke up yesterday
Made my heart sink.
@@lazyg3n so when you're first falling for someone you ignore their faults and issues that are huge red flags because you're in that stage of I'm in love aka rose colored glasses. Because red flags when looking through rose colored lenses just look like flags. Every thing when looking through Rose colored glasses looks red.
So a red flag is missed with that lense. Which then in retrospect is obvious. But you were blinded by the rose colored glasses you were putting on.
This is why an outside perspective from your friends on a relationship is important. To warn you to be careful. Because they're not wearing the lenses to blind them.
Made me think of my psychologically abusive ex 🥺
One of the most honest and believable break up scenes I've seen. That "rose colored glasses" line is some poignant shit. And wise. Then again she IS an owl...
owls actually aren't intelligent at all it's a myth
Well, then it's a good thing this is a cartoon owl dating a cartoon horse and not a real owl dating a real horse.
@@simonj3413 Depends on your definition of sex. I bet he could lick her, and she could caress his shaft with her wings and claws. But there'd be better couplings for sure.
Animagladius bro stop
@@kayla2066 NO! Continue!
Out of all his girlfriends, i really wanted Wanda to stay
Same
Which is why she shouldn't. She deserves better.
@Desolations102 That Wanda deserved better than BoJack?
@GitGoodLol part of bojack being a great show is they play with the audiences emotions and aren’t afraid to steer away from what people actually wanted. like bojack wanting to be happy we wanted him to be with karla because she makes him happy. this is why the show simply couldn’t have kept her she made him too happy and he wasn’t good enough for that and the show wanted us to know that
Wanda deserved better but like. I miss her character. If she like hung around...but didnt date Bojack. 😭
"You know, it's funny, when you look at someone through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
that does sound deep but i’m not quite sure what it means exactly
i never been in a relationship so...
@@perfectlyinhuman when it comes to people, a "red flag" is basically something in their behavior that indicates or draws attention to a problem, danger, or irregularity that they may have in their personality, just how a normal red flag draws attention to, say, a dangerous area. When you look at someone with "rose-colored glasses", that means you're looking at that person in a romantically idealized way, and it makes you overlook their flaws, hence why the "red flags" are just "flags", since you cannot distinguish them as red compared to everything else. Once you take off those "glasses", though, as in, you stop viewing that person in a romantically idealized way, then the red flags become very apparent.
Danny Luck I think the rose colored glasses represents how you view someone you love, and “red flags just look like flags” means when ur in love people tend overlook the other persons major flaws.
what does that evenn meannn
“Same thing that always happens. You didn't know me. Then you fell in love with me. And now you know me.” Is what really hit me. Because ot seems to describe how a lot of relationships (romantic and not) go with me.
Same here.
Imagine having a relationship.
r/absolutelynotmeirl
Not to put you down but the point of this scene and what is most likey the issue in your relationships. Is that you needed to work on yourself. Bojack says you didn't know me and now you do. The problem wasn't that she fell on love with someone she didn't know. The problem is that he's not someone you want to know. He has alot of negativity, issues, and trauma he needs to work on. This doesn't mean he can't develop relationships with people as evidence of the people in his life that actually care about him. But it does make it hard to develop healthy relationships. You can take breaks from friendships but once you make a romantic commitment to someone it's not good to be on again and off again. So in other words go to therapy first and try relations later.
go to therapy bro.
that and the whole bitterness and negativity bit hit close to home because it has destroyed so many of my relationships, platonic or romantic
just noticed Wanda has a heart for a face
yep! and bojack is a horse
2 years old but she appears to be an mix of different types of owls, barn owls(or anything in that family) have heart shaped faces, and horned owls have yellow eyes and the obvious horns
Oh wow I just realized 🥴
And mr peanut butter is a yellow lab
And todd has a human head!
As someone who’s been in an abusive relationship, this quote and interaction hits so close that I can’t help but cry everytime I watch this scene
ingo gordon I’m glad that you were able to break away from it, how are you and are you doing okay?
I feel for you. I’ve been in an abusive relationship too and this breakup just hits close to home for me. I wish I was as wise as Wanda was and left sooner though
I was just let go from an abusive friendship and someone sent me this video.
@@MangoMagica it wasn’t your fault you’re still wise even if you have been @b*$3d
I'd hesitate to call Bojack 'abusive' per say, emotionally manipulative perhaps. But the sentiment still stands
What are YOUUUUU doing here?
i cant stop laughing about this
Erika, what are youuuuu doing here? lol. classic Mr. "Is this a crossover episode" Peanut Butter
Almost made me burst out laughing
Get out
"Im sorry things have been so hard for you, but that doesnt give you the right to be shitty to me" we have all heard and said something along these lines to someone and its so iconic everyone talks about the rose tinted glasses quote, that one is the one that stuck with me
This show made me care about a fucking owl and a horse breaking up. What is my life right now?
DennisJ (The Last Methbender) hahah
You again...
It’s cuz their represented as real people. They just have the appearance of animals. That’s it. People tend to not be able to look past that.
Having an emotional empathy is actually clear sign that you're not a psychopathic person. Not that all of them are problematic. You have the gift to relate to emotions no matter the cover. Maybe being in love with animation my whole life made me use to empatise with the emotions of humanoid animals. I was also racially blind as a child, I just didn't realize there was any visual difference, I just understanded that every human being looks different. I don't even remember when I learned about races... And I wrote a whole "poem", sorry about that. 😅 I ment you are a wonderful person and there's nothing wrong with you.
Greetings from Bulgaria and please, excuse my English... 😅🇧🇬
@@Shockwave99999 idk, I’m very sure that people who watch bojack this far into the show are fully aware of that and can look past the anthropomorphism
"I can't be around someone's who's just fueled by bitterness and negativity."
"Well then what are you doing here?"
My last 3 relationships in a nutshell.
Bojack is an idiot
@@Checkmate1138 he's not really an idiot. he's just a self loathing man. and his depression and self hatred tend to take over his mind a lot.
@@sidneywade2454 stop talking about me like you know me 🤣😭😭
@@tommigotdabeatz7817 😈😈😈
I mean all relationship are like this. no one wants a bitter wet blanket who is constant.
Wanda, although hurt, and obviously the victim in this, can acknowledge her own faulty vision (ironic for an owl) as part of the problem. It would be easy for her to just blame the other and pity her own self. BoJack is a textbook narcissist who, at this rare moment, is sincere enough to show all the real shame and self loathing a narc has behind the facade of arrogance, grandiosity and enablement. Unique scene with nothing pompous and fake in it. Just a bitter - bone crushing truth.
Død Seiðr I like this take!
The thing people seem to either forget or ignore is that, well, Bojack is a horrible person despite his "real" aspect to him. He isnt someone you are supposed to enjoy identifying with. You are suppose to see some of yourself and not want to end up like him. People went through worse things than him and yet came out just fine.
Bojack is a "likable" villain protagonist
@@guilhermehank4938 Completely agree enjoyed your take, when it comes to people relating strongly to Bojack I feel like the show would have something to say about the comfort of not being the only one whos broken. Its almost validating, and its my belief that people inherently lash out at the criticisms levied against said validation.
I actually cried at that part.
Yeah, I remembering having to stop and just sobbing for a bit. Shook me up.
I really think that Wanda was the best relationship Bojack had in the series, maybe even the only healthy one.
She was the only one who Bojack just legitimately enjoyed spending time with, and had an adult relationship with. With Anna it was only sex and when he knew her personally he didn’t enjoy it, and Gina started as sex but Bojack got attached, and Gina was still distant.
I think that if Wanda and Bojack met one another at different times in their lives they coukdve really had something.
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Kind of like Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter in a way.
Absolutly not. Bojack is a selfish piece of shit, who turned himself into a caricture of self-destruction.
It's no wonder we never see Wanda anywhere near that tire-fire.
Wanda's a pretty reasonable person, she wouldve left Bojack after his mistakes came to light and even if she met him afterwards I doubt she'd engage with him romantically.
Diane and Guy's relationship is pretty healthy.
"Same thing that always happens. You didn't know me. Then you fell in love with me. And now you know me."
That....honestly hurts a little bit. He's so damn lost.
He absolutely is. I identify.
“Is it true you once dated a woman who had just woken up from a 30 year coma? Were you attracted to her naivety too?”
Those word hurt in the final season, especially after re-watching their relationship.
One of the hardest lessons I had to learn from my breakups is that, they were that person from the start and I still chose them.
That rose-colored glasses quote perfectly described all of my previous relationships. Got me right in the chest.
She may not be no Charlotte, but damn, Wanda's got a point towards Bojack.
I was horribly abusive to my last girlfriend, but because I never yelled at her or hit her I never thought I was abusive, I didn't even see my own red flags.
When she left it showed me how terrible I really was.
She didn't know me, then she fell in love with me, then she knew me
You can change who you are and be whatever you want to be if you know what is right.
Props to you for being able to ADMIT that your behavior was bad. the only way any of us can ever be better is to be honest about how we've been.
It's never too late to change for the better :)
Same thing happen to me. You dont need to be violent to hurt someome.
I lost her but that helps me to find myself.
I hope everything it's good now bro.
That's what I have done too. I couldn't love myself and therefore couldn't love her the way she deserved. Now she's gone and it opened my eyes to all my shitty behavior but it's too late now. I loved her and I will live with my guilt forever. I hope she at least believes I am so truly sorry for all the pain I've caused even though I'll never get to make it right. I don't know how to forgive myself I just hope I change I don't want to be poison anymore
“When you look at someone through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.”
it hurts that this reminds me of my mom and my older sister
It reminds me of my first ex too
You know. It took me three years to finally understand the metaphor about seeing life with rose colored glasses.
...Huh.
It takes time. Luckily 4 me I understood it at first n fell in love with the quote ever since.
The rose colored glasses line always stuck with me, I tell people that all the time, always had an impact on the way I look at people
That line is ridiculously deep. I've quoted it a few times and I get this reaction of: "Damn bro... that's deep..." every time.
That line made me realize I needed to end an abusive relationship I was in. It was an epiphany of sorts after months of clouded thoughts, and ringing in my ears of people worried.
you know it’s bad when you can imagine yourself in both of their positions.
the ‘you didn’t know me. and then you fell in love with me. and now you know me’ i relate to that so much and i hate it
A lot of people do. We have to work on ourselves every single day. It's difficult but it'll pan out in the end.
"You didn't know me. Then you fell in love with me. And now you know me."
She was my favorite female character in season 2...
I really hope she shows up in season 3, but since BoJack has an opportunity in New York, I am not going to hold my breath
chachodog12 When they took her out of the intro it really hit hard.
She has so many funny lines. The one about her pitching the WTC magic trick with David Copperfield and everyone's awkwardly stalling until one of them pussies out and lies "David Copperfield isn't a draw anymore," or just for an actual line "I haven't had sex in 30 years... I hope." Man I miss her. Good voice work!
HOO?
after awakening from her second coma she’s now a president which is pretty neat
everyone talking about the rose coloured glasses one but the one that really hit me was the “ you didn’t know me, you fell in love with me.. and now you know me.” pretty much me in a sentence 😃
BC the rose colored glasses hits harder. Bojack's quote is from self pity and is obviously not true. However, the other quote reflects the response to how she handled bojack and his insecurities. Which we all fall victim 2.. No matter who you are, good or bad.
I pretty much just destroyed a relationship the same way and thought of this scene. it's really hitting home right now
Still remember this quote so long after finishing Bojack Horseman. God, it’s so good.
0:25 Probably one of the best and most impactful lines in the entire series
i need to take my rose colored glasses off
Watching this show feels miserable when you share many traits with Bojack.
It does
BPD is a curse
For me, the show always has this cautionary tale aspect to it. Dont become like Bojack, you still have a chance to change
Whenever I think about my last relationship, I always come to the glasses line. Actually, I come to that line in general quite a bit still. You never realize that all the signs were right there and you just never could point them out yourself...
Everyone talks about the rose colored glasses, but the " you didn't know me, then you fell in love with me, and now you know me" hits the hardest ...
Does anyone else think about this quote way more than they should, and is afraid that the guy they fell in love is going to figure out who you really are and you’re gonna lose them because of it
Who you really are is a reflection of your thoughts. If you don't heal you will allow that part of you to form into your ego and once it does you'll have to kill your whole ego just to fix it. The real you is fine in all it's glory and grace. As long as you live your life to better yourself and others you aren't as "ugly" as you think. You must love you first or no one will ever know how to.
Wanda has such a good head on her shoulders. She knew that it wasn't justified for him to take out his garbage on her. She refused to tolerate any bad treatment - she got luckier than most of his victims because of it.
coming back to this scene hurts so much. I can relate to bojack. every time I get into a new relationship everything is good at first until my overthinking starts and then I start sabotaging every good thing about the relationship. I self sabotage to avoid the pain later on and do it faster to avoid getting attached. one of the things that sucks most about having bpd is attachment issues and self sabotaging especially when you like that person so much... I had a partner like Wanda once in my life. I hope their doing good....
Hey. I've got BPD and relate to Bojack too. It's tough to see everyone focusing on his narc side, especially as someone who has suffered narcssistic abuse (which he also did). I really feel like people decide they'd rather not be around me once they know me... Which isn't necessarily true, but you know;
bpd.
Wanda was one of the healthiest people on the show. Being stuck in the 90’s probably helped a bit but still.
The sad part is that we never saw her again since
I'm fucking crying over an owl and a horse breaking up.
The rose colored glasses line is good, but Bojacks line of you didn't know me and now you know me hits me harder cause that is how I feel everytime I meet new people and they get weirded out by me.
What I hear in my head when I think about this is never let anyone truly know you or they will leave .
I’ve watch this show literally one time through about 5 years ago and forgot most of everything. I just recently went through a rough breakup in my long-term relationship where I didn’t notice the red flags until after we ended things. Somehow this exact quote came rushing to my head and made me bawl my eyes out because it’s so unbearably real.
"when you're wearing rose coloured glasses all the red flags just look like flags" this phrase will always hit hard for me. Just because you fall in love with someone doesn't mean they're good for you.
i think about this clip every single day
This is the moment i saw I’m like him
This line is what solidified me watching the rest of this show
This was the best show when I was depressed and going through recovery. Really connected with it because I myself felt like an animal that was out of control
One of my favourite quotes of anything ever. Helped me understand life when I got out of an abusive relationship
I am bojack in this scene. It hurts to admit. I am a mess.
As someone who went through a hell of a relationship, this hits even harder
I'm glad Wanda didn't take Bojack's shit.
Lisa Kudrow did such a good job as Wanda
I wish I treated her better. I let alcohol get in the way and now she’s gone. I’m going give up alcohol and hope I can win her back. She’s the best thing that ever happened to me in my entire life.
This made me ugly cry again. Damn it Bojack
That's my favourite scene in whole series
I felt what he said. But I also felt what she said as well. And that makes it hurt even deeper.
If I met an owl with a voice like that, I'd screw it too.
When you realise she's voiced by Phoebe Buffay as well
So true, don't know if that happened to me, but love can make you blind to flaws
I dated a girl with BPD and bipolar and she loved this scene. But it exactly describes our relationship and the break up…. I hope people get the help they did, and stop the self pity parties.
Most people put their best self first in relationships and as time wears on it’s hard to keep up that mask with the highs and lows in life. Relationships (with yourself and others) are for taking off the mask and becoming the person you wanted the mask to look like. Shit happens, sink or swim… sometimes a little of both too. The truth is the person wearing “rose-tinted glasses” has such high expectations that the other person can’t keep up and makes for a bitter relationship. Both want the person they met in their mind instead of who that person is underneath it all. That means the good times and the bad folks.
After getting cheated on...this quote resonates with my very soul.
i’ve noticed that most people are talking about the romantic parts of this conversation, but one of the things that struck me was “well i’m sorry that things have been so hard for you, but that doesn’t give you the right to be shitty to me.” it might just be me but sometimes… i really do want to direct my bitterness and negativity at the person who hurt me so badly. i want them to hurt or at least understand just how much they hurt me. but… they made their choice, and i want them to be happy. maybe it’s time to just… let go, and also find happiness for myself
I feel it Bojack, I feel it.
This broke me. I’ve been both sides of this relationship. But the bit about Now you know me rings more true than I’m willing to admit.
"Wouldn't it be funny if this was the last time we ever see each other?"
This scene really hits you.Its also funny that we have laws and legal punishments for physical abuse but none for emotional abuse.Anyone out there staying in such a relationship don't wait for them to change.Do what is best for you both.It will be a lot better to be out of misery than pretending that everything is fine.Cheers!
Whats even more messed up is Bojack actions show us that he never cared about Wanda.
When Bojacks realizes he wants real healthy love after this fight, what dose he do?
He doesn't reach out to apologize to Wanda. You know, his loving supportive girlfriend that he just had an ugly fight with and was unecessarily mean to. No, instead he drives out to New Mexico to track down a woman he had a crush on over 30 years ago. Still expecting her to be the same young single childless 20 something year old he knew back then and assume she would just run off with him like a typical Hollywoo romance. (And we see how well that went for him)
Yet he had a woman who clearly loved him right in LA, got along with him really well and most likely would've forgiven him after this fight. Yet Bojack never thinks about her or mentions her again. He spends so much time mopping over other women he's hurt, but not Wanda. Even when Biscuits mentions her in the interview Bojack still dosen't think much about her.
Wanda is probably the only woman Bojack could've had a healthy romance with. She was age appropriate, good natured and wasn't dating him for his money or celebrity status, she really loved him. Bojack instantly forgets her after this fight and instead of trying to save the relationship he abandoned it for a fantasy that ends up hurting even more people who cared about him. I really wish in the final season she would've appeared again to call him out on all this.
Person should change to the better rather than keep being "now you know me, i am the bad guy, this is me, i can't be helped". This behavior is hurtful to other ppl around them yet they have no intention to make it better
Bojack: well then what are you doing here?
A good question and maybe one of the most sensible things he said to Wanda considering how he is treating her. I can’t believe he blew his one chance at happiness before hollyhock.
Damn this shit got me crying in my car in the middle of the night at my favorite park. I’ve never related to Bojack Horseman quite like this before
lisa kudrow did a really good job voice acting wanda here
I said the same thing about red flags to my abuser, and the girl she’s dating now.
Only difference is, Bojack got help, and she refuses to.
Know when to say goodbye.
Fax
when you look at someone through rose colored glasses all the red flags just look like flags
This show has so many layers,onions get jealous. I 🙄when someone said it’s great- then I watched it. It’s more poignant at times than Oscar award winning movies. The Alzheimer’s scenes when the faces are just scribbles were like guy kicks. You forget they are humanoid animals soon into the show. Just incredible. I would yell at the screen when I knew Bojack was about to screw things up for himself again- I was that invested in a horse cartoon. I mean...it’s pretty damn incredible.
I was wishing that even if Bojack and Wanda broke up that she’d still be in the show. Lisa Kudrow is just perfect for the part.
You know,one time I helped someone finally take off the rose coloured glasses, I'm so glad I could help them.
Wanda’s line about “but that doesn’t give you the right to be shitty to me” hits hard as someone who’s been in an emotionally abusive relationship. I always felt like I wasn’t enough because they’d take their anger out on me. Sometimes it’s better to be alone than with someone who tries to drag you down so you feel just as shitty as they do.
In a season where “what are you doing here” is a gut punch every time, this one might be the worst.
Of all of Bojack’s girlfriends, Wanda was the one I really hoped would help him be happy.
one of the top 3 scenes in the show.
Definitely my favorite character, along with Princess Carolyn, and Pickles
I rewatched this scene way too many times
My life in two words
Halfway through Season 2 I was sure Bojack and Wanda would be together forever. Damn this show has a way of breaking one's heart.
In 2021 April, after nearly 8 month of continuous talking I developed emotions towards someone. I decided to see this person physically. This person refused to meet me in the end and told me : So you love me, without knowing me (although I felt it could be or was mutual…) and those words still chase me this day. This scene reminds me of that, and I still dont understand what this person has meant by that. What was the reason to cut me off that I was not aware of behind those rose colored glasses… was it trauma, pain, jealousy, acting like they like me but dont… I will never know
Make sure to always take off your rose colored glasses before dating someone
Bojack ruined this relationship more than others. (Not counting Gina). He didn't have to act like this but he did because he didn't want to admit she was right.
ok, i just realized wanda is lisa kudrow!! how i didn't get it before!!
When you look at someone through rose color glasses, all the red flags just look like flags
Why do I have a feeling it's something straight out of Hotline Miami
And then Bojack goes to New Mexico.
quote of the yr
Dying inside
Man, I'm gonna keep that quote.
This show is constantly attacking me personally but this scene holy shit, this really takes the cake. I love Bojack Horseman so much.