When should someone leave? When should someone stay? Where to draw the line? Neither Bojack nor Wanda can always have colors sparkling out of their hearts. They both will have their ups, downs, depressive phases. One person's excitement maybe another person's boredom. So, when human relationships are so complex like this, when should one quit and when should one hold on strong?
I really wish this breakup hadn't happened because Wanda was so sweet. She was a lot better than the previous women that Bojack was in a romantic relationship in. I would've loved to have seen Bojack rekindle his relationship with Wanda in the finale.
This was the moment that killed the show for me, I went from disliking Diane to despising her. This breakup was 100% Diane's fault even though the writers try to recontexualize it as Bojack's own fault because Diane gets all of the breaks and excuses in the world
Yeah and honestly, if it hadn't been for this breakup, than maybe the rest of the stuff that happens to Bojack later on in the show honestly could've been avoided. So... Diane pretty much ruined Bojack's life.
What Wanda told bojack is the last thing I ever said to my kids mom before she got up and left me for a drug dealer you could say I was bojack and she was Sarah Lynn..
I wish I treated her better. I let alcohol get in the way and now she’s gone. I’m going give up alcohol and hope I can win her back. She’s the best thing that ever happened to me in my entire life.
Bojack ruined this relationship more than others. (Not counting Gina). He didn't have to act like this but he did because he didn't want to admit she was right.
I’ve watch this show literally one time through about 5 years ago and forgot most of everything. I just recently went through a rough breakup in my long-term relationship where I didn’t notice the red flags until after we ended things. Somehow this exact quote came rushing to my head and made me bawl my eyes out because it’s so unbearably real.
Person should change to the better rather than keep being "now you know me, i am the bad guy, this is me, i can't be helped". This behavior is hurtful to other ppl around them yet they have no intention to make it better
"Im sorry things have been so hard for you, but that doesnt give you the right to be shitty to me" we have all heard and said something along these lines to someone and its so iconic everyone talks about the rose tinted glasses quote, that one is the one that stuck with me
Wanda has such a good head on her shoulders. She knew that it wasn't justified for him to take out his garbage on her. She refused to tolerate any bad treatment - she got luckier than most of his victims because of it.
I dated a girl with BPD and bipolar and she loved this scene. But it exactly describes our relationship and the break up…. I hope people get the help they did, and stop the self pity parties.
Wanda’s line about “but that doesn’t give you the right to be shitty to me” hits hard as someone who’s been in an emotionally abusive relationship. I always felt like I wasn’t enough because they’d take their anger out on me. Sometimes it’s better to be alone than with someone who tries to drag you down so you feel just as shitty as they do.
The rose colored glasses line is good, but Bojacks line of you didn't know me and now you know me hits me harder cause that is how I feel everytime I meet new people and they get weirded out by me.
People shit their pants over how awesome they think this quote is but when you look at someone through rose-colored glasses all the flags look like red flags.
This is what happened to me with my last break up (I was the one who broke it off). She lied to me for nine months and never put effort into the relationship the level I did. She blamed me for the reason we only went on four dates because I was the one with the "license" yet the whole time she was always cancelling our plans or postponing them, even making a snarky comment on Valentine's Day that she was thinking of cancelling that date. Which is bullshit, I even told her she was the one that had to say, "Hey, you're going to have to be the one to say, "Hey, let's go on a date" because I knew she had a bad family life. She said the relationship was "too intense" yet she was the one always saying "You're going to be my husband", "When we get a house together", "if I get pregnant", etc. She lied about awful stuff. About being molested and I say that because she dropped it so casually that I knew it was a lie because she told me earlier that day "she was a good liar". About the fact that her therapist "ghosted her", therapists DON'T ghost their patients. And if it is true if she did then why? Anyways, I was pretty unhappy and bored too. The conversation where she just gave me lies and excuses was because she thought I was passive aggressive because I ended my sentences with a period.
This was the best show when I was depressed and going through recovery. Really connected with it because I myself felt like an animal that was out of control
My ex and I broke up a week ago. I honestly didnt know what happen, I even thought we would end up together. At that moment I thought about this quote from Wanda.
coming back to this scene hurts so much. I can relate to bojack. every time I get into a new relationship everything is good at first until my overthinking starts and then I start sabotaging every good thing about the relationship. I self sabotage to avoid the pain later on and do it faster to avoid getting attached. one of the things that sucks most about having bpd is attachment issues and self sabotaging especially when you like that person so much... I had a partner like Wanda once in my life. I hope their doing good....
Hey. I've got BPD and relate to Bojack too. It's tough to see everyone focusing on his narc side, especially as someone who has suffered narcssistic abuse (which he also did). I really feel like people decide they'd rather not be around me once they know me... Which isn't necessarily true, but you know; bpd.
.........so are we just gonna ignore that *Diane* was clearly pulling a "Bojack" on Bojack, which helped aggravate this scene? Of we are since everyone thinks Diane did nothing wrong in this entire show 🙄🤦
Most people put their best self first in relationships and as time wears on it’s hard to keep up that mask with the highs and lows in life. Relationships (with yourself and others) are for taking off the mask and becoming the person you wanted the mask to look like. Shit happens, sink or swim… sometimes a little of both too. The truth is the person wearing “rose-tinted glasses” has such high expectations that the other person can’t keep up and makes for a bitter relationship. Both want the person they met in their mind instead of who that person is underneath it all. That means the good times and the bad folks.
I been in Wanda's place before.
When should someone leave? When should someone stay? Where to draw the line? Neither Bojack nor Wanda can always have colors sparkling out of their hearts. They both will have their ups, downs, depressive phases. One person's excitement maybe another person's boredom. So, when human relationships are so complex like this, when should one quit and when should one hold on strong?
This show helped me learn how to leave my abusive ex... Thank you Bojack Horseman.
I really wish this breakup hadn't happened because Wanda was so sweet. She was a lot better than the previous women that Bojack was in a romantic relationship in. I would've loved to have seen Bojack rekindle his relationship with Wanda in the finale.
Story of my life
This was the moment that killed the show for me, I went from disliking Diane to despising her. This breakup was 100% Diane's fault even though the writers try to recontexualize it as Bojack's own fault because Diane gets all of the breaks and excuses in the world
Yeah and honestly, if it hadn't been for this breakup, than maybe the rest of the stuff that happens to Bojack later on in the show honestly could've been avoided. So... Diane pretty much ruined Bojack's life.
Everyone talks about the rose colored glasses, but the " you didn't know me, then you fell in love with me, and now you know me" hits the hardest ...
What Wanda told bojack is the last thing I ever said to my kids mom before she got up and left me for a drug dealer you could say I was bojack and she was Sarah Lynn..
I wish I treated her better. I let alcohol get in the way and now she’s gone. I’m going give up alcohol and hope I can win her back. She’s the best thing that ever happened to me in my entire life.
Bojack ruined this relationship more than others. (Not counting Gina). He didn't have to act like this but he did because he didn't want to admit she was right.
I’ve watch this show literally one time through about 5 years ago and forgot most of everything. I just recently went through a rough breakup in my long-term relationship where I didn’t notice the red flags until after we ended things. Somehow this exact quote came rushing to my head and made me bawl my eyes out because it’s so unbearably real.
Person should change to the better rather than keep being "now you know me, i am the bad guy, this is me, i can't be helped". This behavior is hurtful to other ppl around them yet they have no intention to make it better
fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK FUCK FUCK
are you okay
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"Im sorry things have been so hard for you, but that doesnt give you the right to be shitty to me" we have all heard and said something along these lines to someone and its so iconic everyone talks about the rose tinted glasses quote, that one is the one that stuck with me
Wanda was one of the healthiest people on the show. Being stuck in the 90’s probably helped a bit but still.
I am bojack in this scene. It hurts to admit. I am a mess.
Lisa Kudrow did such a good job as Wanda
Wanda has such a good head on her shoulders. She knew that it wasn't justified for him to take out his garbage on her. She refused to tolerate any bad treatment - she got luckier than most of his victims because of it.
What I hear in my head when I think about this is never let anyone truly know you or they will leave .
I dated a girl with BPD and bipolar and she loved this scene. But it exactly describes our relationship and the break up…. I hope people get the help they did, and stop the self pity parties.
So true, don't know if that happened to me, but love can make you blind to flaws
This is the moment i saw I’m like him
Wanda’s line about “but that doesn’t give you the right to be shitty to me” hits hard as someone who’s been in an emotionally abusive relationship. I always felt like I wasn’t enough because they’d take their anger out on me. Sometimes it’s better to be alone than with someone who tries to drag you down so you feel just as shitty as they do.
I swear to god this show was written for cluster b
Still remember this quote so long after finishing Bojack Horseman. God, it’s so good.
The rose colored glasses line is good, but Bojacks line of you didn't know me and now you know me hits me harder cause that is how I feel everytime I meet new people and they get weirded out by me.
i think about this clip every single day
"You didn't know me. Then you fell in love with me. And now you know me."
People shit their pants over how awesome they think this quote is but when you look at someone through rose-colored glasses all the flags look like red flags.
I was actually sadly disappointed Wanda hasn't made a comeback of some kind... and then I remembered what show this was.
I use that Rose colored glasses quote a lot
This is what happened to me with my last break up (I was the one who broke it off). She lied to me for nine months and never put effort into the relationship the level I did. She blamed me for the reason we only went on four dates because I was the one with the "license" yet the whole time she was always cancelling our plans or postponing them, even making a snarky comment on Valentine's Day that she was thinking of cancelling that date. Which is bullshit, I even told her she was the one that had to say, "Hey, you're going to have to be the one to say, "Hey, let's go on a date" because I knew she had a bad family life. She said the relationship was "too intense" yet she was the one always saying "You're going to be my husband", "When we get a house together", "if I get pregnant", etc. She lied about awful stuff. About being molested and I say that because she dropped it so casually that I knew it was a lie because she told me earlier that day "she was a good liar". About the fact that her therapist "ghosted her", therapists DON'T ghost their patients. And if it is true if she did then why? Anyways, I was pretty unhappy and bored too. The conversation where she just gave me lies and excuses was because she thought I was passive aggressive because I ended my sentences with a period.
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When you realise she's voiced by Phoebe Buffay as well
lisa kudrow did a really good job voice acting wanda here
I was wishing that even if Bojack and Wanda broke up that she’d still be in the show. Lisa Kudrow is just perfect for the part.
What are you doing here
This was the best show when I was depressed and going through recovery. Really connected with it because I myself felt like an animal that was out of control
My ex and I broke up a week ago. I honestly didnt know what happen, I even thought we would end up together. At that moment I thought about this quote from Wanda.
brutally terrible writing. the apotheosis of cringe
I agree; your comment is also the apotheosis of cringe.
One of the hardest lessons I had to learn from my breakups is that, they were that person from the start and I still chose them.
coming back to this scene hurts so much. I can relate to bojack. every time I get into a new relationship everything is good at first until my overthinking starts and then I start sabotaging every good thing about the relationship. I self sabotage to avoid the pain later on and do it faster to avoid getting attached. one of the things that sucks most about having bpd is attachment issues and self sabotaging especially when you like that person so much... I had a partner like Wanda once in my life. I hope their doing good....
Hey. I've got BPD and relate to Bojack too. It's tough to see everyone focusing on his narc side, especially as someone who has suffered narcssistic abuse (which he also did). I really feel like people decide they'd rather not be around me once they know me... Which isn't necessarily true, but you know; bpd.
.........so are we just gonna ignore that *Diane* was clearly pulling a "Bojack" on Bojack, which helped aggravate this scene? Of we are since everyone thinks Diane did nothing wrong in this entire show 🙄🤦
What?
when you look at someone through rose colored glasses all the red flags just look like flags
Most people put their best self first in relationships and as time wears on it’s hard to keep up that mask with the highs and lows in life. Relationships (with yourself and others) are for taking off the mask and becoming the person you wanted the mask to look like. Shit happens, sink or swim… sometimes a little of both too. The truth is the person wearing “rose-tinted glasses” has such high expectations that the other person can’t keep up and makes for a bitter relationship. Both want the person they met in their mind instead of who that person is underneath it all. That means the good times and the bad folks.
Make sure to always take off your rose colored glasses before dating someone
Song: making up by sweet lang
This made me ugly cry again. Damn it Bojack
Well, than what you're doing here?