To be honest both builds are crazy. I usually cycle builds for Luo Yi, either the usual Spam Build or Burst Build. IMO burst build is better if the enemy playstyle is picking you one by one, and spam build is better when teamfights are more common. Either way both are still good builds.
@@yinslayergamingyt5937 true , but I never saw her as a threat .... Killed many global luo yi before . But yeah she became good after some buffs and is annoying with a chain CC tank . But like I said she was never that scary .
I'd still stick with the CDR build on Luo Yi because funnily enough, she's one of the only mages where building COD+LT on her is an overkill IMO. You still shreds enemies for the entire duration of 2nd skill with either CDR or burst build anyway, so i'm leaning towards CDR for its multiple choices of situational items (IQW for slow, Bruteforce for tankiness + max CDR, faster Winter Truncheon, etc). There's also a small weakness of the burst build where your early game is pretty rough until you finally bought LT, which makes it feels REALLY miserable if you're behind in networth. This is part of the reason why mages that relies on COD+LT for dmg like Kagura, Cecillion, or Lunox have fallen a bit. I'm not saying they're bad, they're just not as consistent as Xavier, Novaria, or Kadita, who can use different build or can contribute more in early fights
As a lunox main,lunox also not mostly cod+lt path build,she have other build too ,mine are cod+starlium scythe build now,also i use basic common emblem,have spell vamp talent and concentrate item too to my lifesteal burst type style play
I'd say building her either with a burst build, cdr or even a sustain build depends mainly on the enemy team composition and if there are teammates who can utilize her skills and passive. But definitely, Luo Yi is scary and one of those heroes who can carry you during SoloQ on rank matches.
I main luo yi and I always use the 40% cd build to maximize her passive and ult. And I gotta tell you there is more use for her ult than you think, I main her and im confident in my abilities when using her even with mythical glory ranking.
@@itzanime1944 too many potential from her ult alone. You can technically monitor map with your ult. You can use fake ult to disrupt or scare enemy formation. You can ult to backdoor squishy heroes. Late game Lou yi can destroy most mm with her 1 2 combo alone. Surprise Ult outside of map in top and bottom lane so that the enemies won’t see you coming. Can use her ult to check bush. Use it to gank enemies with your allies, or use that ult to finish low hp heroes running away from team fight. heck, you can even use it with winter crown to escape.
@@itzanime1944for defense item, I recommend building one item for her. It should be winter crown, immortality or oracle. I choose oracle since it scales well with her first skill allowing her to sustain more during enemies chase.
As a luo yi main, I can give some tips about her. You are strong in teamfights only. So if you don't have a tank to support you, then your chances of doing good in teamfight decreases. And if you are the only mage, then going for a hybrid cdr-smg build is way better for all situations. But overall, lyo yi is a great mage if you master her combo and game sense.
@@Lifeinsaudi263 Cdr means cooldown reduction. You wanna give her high cooldown reduction . How I build her is arcane boots-enchanted talisman-lightening truncheon-genius wand-devine glave- holycrystal/blood wings. This let's me spam 1st skill while stilldealing dmgduring teamfights. You can also build like Hororo showed with high dmg and 1 shot potential. But remember that your other skills will have a long cooldown.
That's why I don't understand she don't appear in pro scene. Maybe she just need a small buff especially on first skill (increase width or decrease animation delayed)
The pros on the one shot Luo Yi: -Can one shot Marksman -The more enemies are there the more hurts her yin yang Damage does Cons: -Mana hungry -Cd is kinda long
my build for Luo Yi is Arcane Boots, CoD, Lightning Truncheon, Enchanted Talisman, Holy crystal and Divine glaive...Idk if its a good build but it works for me
If you're lucky enough to have a Khufra and Chou like that you could switch to burst build. In my situation I often need to go CDR because nobody is going to hold the enemy down for me T_T
If you dont like cd or burst build then mix it haha like xaviers build Cd shoes COD Lightning Truncheon Enchanted Talisman Divine Glaive Genius wand/Holy Crystal/Winter Truncheon/Blood wings (Depends on your preference, you can also change this slot to immo or athena)
Funny thing about this is if you use mage emblem instead with the cooldown talent and magic shoes, you'd still have amazing damage with a decent CDR. Cause that's already 35% CDR since you'd build LT anyways.
There was a season were i reached mythic through louyi. That's how i built her before, bursg mage witj the intention to be the mage carry at late game. She's definitely scary both in early and late game (so easy to defend even if you only have your nexus already). Then after that louyi peak of mine, i started using cdr build on her. After that, i stopped using her and forgot her hahaha. Now whenever im building her burst, i dont feel comfortable because i got used to quick cooldowns of her first skill. So i just dont use her anymore. My current hero today is leshley hehehe
@@BillGates-1 As a luo yi main, i can tell you that Luo Yi can easily be countered with "Poke" heroes, such as a Nana, Xavier and that girl who phases through walls. She can also be easily killed when she isn't playing safe.
Speaking of mages with several options for the type of build: TLDR: Zhask's spawn counts as both a creep and hero unit at the same time and the wall hitboxes suck. (I noticed that the damage problems seem to affect all summoned units, but neither sun nor vex seem as badly affected as Zhask, but please correct me if i'm wrong). Can we get a zhask bug fix? His spawn takes full damage from both retribution and dhs (which makes helcurt one shot my ult or me and my passive, and it takes two instances of damage from cursed helmet, one normal and one 350%) and he can't ult in minsi's anti-dash field under any circumstance, even when its an on the spot morph, the wall's hitboxes are just broken(i often clearly teleport over a wall and stay on the same side) and all in all its just annoying to play sometimes.
Idk why but this is the one héroe I cannot get the trick of… I get her passive, I get her combo it’s just I never seem to do anything at all when playing her, I don’t feel her as any better than other mages😩
I will tell you Luo Yi Burst Arcane Boots, CoD, Lightning Truncheon, Genius Wand, Holy Crystal, Blood Wing / Winter Truncheon Good at bursting squishy backliner such as Mage, MM or some Support Weakness: Not good against high sustain Hero when already at point blank range. Not max CDR means longer CD to shot each of Skill 1 to generate shield. If close fight for too long, disadvantage when Skill 2 duration run out as next skill 2 on CD Luo Yi 45% CDR Arcane Boots / Tough Boots, Enchanted Talisman, Ice Queen Wand, Holy Crystal / Genius Wand, Winter Truncheon, NoD / Genius Wand Good at spamming skill, have faster Skill 1 recharge rate, faster gap of each Skill 1. Ice Queen Wand and some slow from allies will surely trap enemy Heroes without dash skill ready inside Skill 2. When Skill 2 duration end, just use 1 more of Skill 1 to put new mark and Skill 2 ready to use again. Have higher chance to survive close range battle against not very burst hero due to faster Skill 1 spam to gain shield. Like to bully tank and keep pulling them into center of Skill 2 Weakness: Rose Gold Meteor is enough to prevent from get bursted by this build on MM. You really need double stun combo to burst squishy hero
Man I played 5man against Luo Yi once(yeah they were 5men too ofc) and we couldn't really handle her. Teleporting the whole enemy team in a random bush to gank, or simply being unable to get close to her without being forcefully kissed by my teammate. A good Luo Yi with a great team is almost impossible to get close to, since we used a tank jungler and no assassins😭
luo yi is a great mage. But i think her speads fan-shape is not big enough to really support her to playing aggressively. She had to aim her first skill precisely and has to be closed with enemy so that her passive can hit the enemy. That's kinda dangerous and need very good position. When it comes to picking mages, im not picking her too often, not with these dashes assassins meta 😂
i agree, she NEEDS TO SPREAD WIDER 👀. Her skill has a delay where you have to switch between yin n yang, so she really need some cc from her teammate to pin down the enemy in order to kill
Burst build or tanky build Depends how you play, I don't like burst luo yi because she is very easy to die, I gave her at least 2 tank item to survive Yin's domain or annoying tankcelot
Please montoon luo yi has need revamp her pasif, if her satck was the same color it give her extra damage. And for the different stack would be stun. Thats it and boom she will be the stronges mage THE AGREE BUTTON | | | √
But aren’t burst luo yi kinda hard to clear minion waves? Since she uses a lot of first skill and mana. Also the cooldown. If she ever gets ganked when trying to clear waves
Trading CDR and early game dmg for late game dmg. Glowing Wand after Clock then Lightning should balance it in terms of game time. Divine in case of Athena’s Shield. Winter Truncheon (combo w/ ult) for survivability or Necklace in case of life steal scumbags or Holy Crystal.
Wait what? I have been using this build since I'm using her so I could 1 hit combo squishy heroes especially to 1 hit fanny, I thought people use this build for a long time now lol.
How about burst build with 40% cd 10% from emblem 10% from ult passive 10% from boot and 10% from lightning. I guess you need to recall more often for mana 😂.
@@jasonwanwinwun that sounds more like Layla or arllot ults cause they benefit a lot from leveling ult. I mean mana consuming is never problem cause you can use ult to reposition yourself.
It's actually kinda impractical since in the end you better off using ET for support and cc. And, it's only effective when the enemy is squishy and no hard flashy dashes. But, still... Seeing enemy lose their hp bar in one yin-yang reactions is quite satisfying.
Yeah I was also surprised that a lot of people were not using burst build. I thought this build was in the top 2 or top 3 global builds already. I do get why they use CDR though.
2:41 teleporting to gank Lesley but failed
Luo yi: Your life is worthless.
💀💀💀
😂😂
Ouch
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To be honest both builds are crazy. I usually cycle builds for Luo Yi, either the usual Spam Build or Burst Build. IMO burst build is better if the enemy playstyle is picking you one by one, and spam build is better when teamfights are more common. Either way both are still good builds.
just dpends on enemy comp really. burst if there are more squishies, spam if solid front line
She's always been this scary
Especially on the enemy's side
No
@@nurik7208You don't even olay Luo yi
@@nurik7208oh look a tank main.
@@yinslayergamingyt5937 true , but I never saw her as a threat .... Killed many global luo yi before . But yeah she became good after some buffs and is annoying with a chain CC tank . But like I said she was never that scary .
I'd still stick with the CDR build on Luo Yi because funnily enough, she's one of the only mages where building COD+LT on her is an overkill IMO. You still shreds enemies for the entire duration of 2nd skill with either CDR or burst build anyway, so i'm leaning towards CDR for its multiple choices of situational items (IQW for slow, Bruteforce for tankiness + max CDR, faster Winter Truncheon, etc).
There's also a small weakness of the burst build where your early game is pretty rough until you finally bought LT, which makes it feels REALLY miserable if you're behind in networth. This is part of the reason why mages that relies on COD+LT for dmg like Kagura, Cecillion, or Lunox have fallen a bit. I'm not saying they're bad, they're just not as consistent as Xavier, Novaria, or Kadita, who can use different build or can contribute more in early fights
Well said. The Meta is just currently fast paced.
But novaria is weak at early fight
@@SabilaNitaks god
As a lunox main,lunox also not mostly cod+lt path build,she have other build too ,mine are cod+starlium scythe build now,also i use basic common emblem,have spell vamp talent and concentrate item too to my lifesteal burst type style play
@@SabilaNitanot really tho since her second skill works like a flameshot..the further away the enemy is the more damage it dealt
I'd say building her either with a burst build, cdr or even a sustain build depends mainly on the enemy team composition and if there are teammates who can utilize her skills and passive. But definitely, Luo Yi is scary and one of those heroes who can carry you during SoloQ on rank matches.
I main luo yi and I always use the 40% cd build to maximize her passive and ult. And I gotta tell you there is more use for her ult than you think, I main her and im confident in my abilities when using her even with mythical glory ranking.
I am a new luo yi player so can you please give some tips
@@itzanime1944 too many potential from her ult alone. You can technically monitor map with your ult. You can use fake ult to disrupt or scare enemy formation. You can ult to backdoor squishy heroes. Late game Lou yi can destroy most mm with her 1 2 combo alone. Surprise Ult outside of map in top and bottom lane so that the enemies won’t see you coming. Can use her ult to check bush. Use it to gank enemies with your allies, or use that ult to finish low hp heroes running away from team fight. heck, you can even use it with winter crown to escape.
@@itzanime1944for defense item, I recommend building one item for her. It should be winter crown, immortality or oracle. I choose oracle since it scales well with her first skill allowing her to sustain more during enemies chase.
I wish there was like an indicator on Louyi's ult whether its in bushes or not. Like a sort of highlight of the bush if ult is placed within.
no thank you
luo yi is already mid, doing that just ruined her
As a luo yi main, I can give some tips about her. You are strong in teamfights only. So if you don't have a tank to support you, then your chances of doing good in teamfight decreases. And if you are the only mage, then going for a hybrid cdr-smg build is way better for all situations. But overall, lyo yi is a great mage if you master her combo and game sense.
@@Lifeinsaudi263 Cdr means cooldown reduction. You wanna give her high cooldown reduction . How I build her is arcane boots-enchanted talisman-lightening truncheon-genius wand-devine glave- holycrystal/blood wings. This let's me spam 1st skill while stilldealing dmgduring teamfights. You can also build like Hororo showed with high dmg and 1 shot potential. But remember that your other skills will have a long cooldown.
That's why I don't understand she don't appear in pro scene. Maybe she just need a small buff especially on first skill (increase width or decrease animation delayed)
The fact that horror also showcases on how he died is so appreciatable! Cuz other people would skip the time they died. Shows on how honest he is.
The pros on the one shot Luo Yi:
-Can one shot Marksman
-The more enemies are there the more hurts her yin yang Damage does
Cons:
-Mana hungry
-Cd is kinda long
my build for Luo Yi is Arcane Boots, CoD, Lightning Truncheon, Enchanted Talisman, Holy crystal and Divine glaive...Idk if its a good build but it works for me
Well this lou yi burst is good for player that miss second passive dmg,and good for scared enemy mm or mage
If the enemy is squishy i build cod and lightning truncheon combo and if they're tanky i just go with cdr build
yes the burst is better for teamfights. nice to see you guys figure it out 2 years later.
Lol no hahaha.
If you're lucky enough to have a Khufra and Chou like that you could switch to burst build. In my situation I often need to go CDR because nobody is going to hold the enemy down for me T_T
If you dont like cd or burst build then mix it haha like xaviers build
Cd shoes
COD
Lightning Truncheon
Enchanted Talisman
Divine Glaive
Genius wand/Holy Crystal/Winter Truncheon/Blood wings (Depends on your preference, you can also change this slot to immo or athena)
I often combine COD + LT + ET for burst and cdr build. And somehow, its works 😎
I'm never a luo yi main but this is always my go to build. I didn't know she was build cdr lol
Funny thing about this is if you use mage emblem instead with the cooldown talent and magic shoes, you'd still have amazing damage with a decent CDR. Cause that's already 35% CDR since you'd build LT anyways.
this is why i dont understand pro players not using her against ube strat in mpl ph before shes literally the natural counter to that strat
What? Other teams already tried it better but never work. To the point that Blacklist use Luo Yi against them and win
There was a season were i reached mythic through louyi. That's how i built her before, bursg mage witj the intention to be the mage carry at late game. She's definitely scary both in early and late game (so easy to defend even if you only have your nexus already). Then after that louyi peak of mine, i started using cdr build on her. After that, i stopped using her and forgot her hahaha. Now whenever im building her burst, i dont feel comfortable because i got used to quick cooldowns of her first skill. So i just dont use her anymore. My current hero today is leshley hehehe
Me who has been using cod x wt from the start 😐
Id usually use both
Heres my build-
Arcane boots (or magic boots)
Enchanted talisman
Lightning truncheon
Blood wings
Holy crystal
Clock of destiny
Yeah I always use this build.
One tip hororo:
Prioritize leveling up 1st and 2nd skill first , and 3rd skill last.
Nahxi think u need to level up skill 3 ..So u can teleport more further
also to benefit from additional 10 cdr from max level ulti
Shes so OP ngl. Everytime my enemy team picks healers like rafaela/estes, i just know i have to pick luo yi HAHA she be cc-ing them non stop
But how she can counter them? I don't get it
@@BillGates-1 As a luo yi main, i can tell you that Luo Yi can easily be countered with "Poke" heroes, such as a Nana, Xavier and that girl who phases through walls. She can also be easily killed when she isn't playing safe.
She's every Marksmen direct counter, especially her backstab capability.
With burst there one thing you need to know, if you cant burst with just one stun/passive do the two continues stun trick/passive
Speaking of mages with several options for the type of build:
TLDR: Zhask's spawn counts as both a creep and hero unit at the same time and the wall hitboxes suck. (I noticed that the damage problems seem to affect all summoned units, but neither sun nor vex seem as badly affected as Zhask, but please correct me if i'm wrong).
Can we get a zhask bug fix? His spawn takes full damage from both retribution and dhs (which makes helcurt one shot my ult or me and my passive, and it takes two instances of damage from cursed helmet, one normal and one 350%) and he can't ult in minsi's anti-dash field under any circumstance, even when its an on the spot morph, the wall's hitboxes are just broken(i often clearly teleport over a wall and stay on the same side) and all in all its just annoying to play sometimes.
As a Zhask user, I have experienced all of them 😢
@@naqibhazthey're annoying, aren't they :/
Touché.
Its kinda annoying.
Btw zhask main here too
@@naqibhazwhich build type do you prefer?
@@agentorange543 I'd use zhask a lot more in ranked if it weren't for the bugs... as fun as burst is, it doesn't quite make up for the problems
Idk why but this is the one héroe I cannot get the trick of… I get her passive, I get her combo it’s just I never seem to do anything at all when playing her, I don’t feel her as any better than other mages😩
What do you mean by "never seem to do anything"?
@@ItsEmpty he means skill issue
I always build her using my Xavier's build, with CD shoe, Enchanted Talisman, COD and Lightning 🤘🏻
Too much is going on lol
I will tell you
Luo Yi Burst
Arcane Boots, CoD, Lightning Truncheon, Genius Wand, Holy Crystal, Blood Wing / Winter Truncheon
Good at bursting squishy backliner such as Mage, MM or some Support
Weakness: Not good against high sustain Hero when already at point blank range. Not max CDR means longer CD to shot each of Skill 1 to generate shield. If close fight for too long, disadvantage when Skill 2 duration run out as next skill 2 on CD
Luo Yi 45% CDR
Arcane Boots / Tough Boots, Enchanted Talisman, Ice Queen Wand, Holy Crystal / Genius Wand, Winter Truncheon, NoD / Genius Wand
Good at spamming skill, have faster Skill 1 recharge rate, faster gap of each Skill 1. Ice Queen Wand and some slow from allies will surely trap enemy Heroes without dash skill ready inside Skill 2. When Skill 2 duration end, just use 1 more of Skill 1 to put new mark and Skill 2 ready to use again. Have higher chance to survive close range battle against not very burst hero due to faster Skill 1 spam to gain shield. Like to bully tank and keep pulling them into center of Skill 2
Weakness: Rose Gold Meteor is enough to prevent from get bursted by this build on MM. You really need double stun combo to burst squishy hero
Man I played 5man against Luo Yi once(yeah they were 5men too ofc) and we couldn't really handle her. Teleporting the whole enemy team in a random bush to gank, or simply being unable to get close to her without being forcefully kissed by my teammate. A good Luo Yi with a great team is almost impossible to get close to, since we used a tank jungler and no assassins😭
Lmao I got my luo yi burst build bcoz of hororo when Luo yi first came out hororo recommended it
You can still play luoyi burst and cdr at the same time, like xavier build
luo yi is a great mage. But i think her speads fan-shape is not big enough to really support her to playing aggressively. She had to aim her first skill precisely and has to be closed with enemy so that her passive can hit the enemy. That's kinda dangerous and need very good position. When it comes to picking mages, im not picking her too often, not with these dashes assassins meta 😂
i agree, she NEEDS TO SPREAD WIDER 👀. Her skill has a delay where you have to switch between yin n yang, so she really need some cc from her teammate to pin down the enemy in order to kill
@@quango2707now that first sentence is sus🤝
@@Hikizujinsus indeed my friend
The sheer frustration when missing the targets with what could've been a great yin yang reaction
my intrusive thoughts tell me sometimes to use her ult teleport my teammates to the enemies side😂
I'm a Kagura user. And Luo Yi is definitely terrifying
That like Eudora full combo😢
eudora but instead of hiding in the back, she can just target the enemy tank -> damage splashed to mm and other squishy things
That thank you to chou and khufra was sarcastic.. angry hororo 😂😂
Burst build or tanky build
Depends how you play, I don't like burst luo yi because she is very easy to die, I gave her at least 2 tank item to survive Yin's domain or annoying tankcelot
Why you can see so far? Can you show us ur setting?
I would like to share my Luo yi burst build and emblem set up to you hororo Chan if you like. It's very deadliest combo of build and emblem set up.
You're a big inspiration for me hororo Chan.
Flickerr is the best battle spell for her
Now i know that im not alone, as 'taptap' (no aim) player😂
0:08 Flameshot 😜
been using burst build most game and only cd build sometimes
Finally some luo ti love
Ive always been playing luo yi with burst set
Missed the days when she was autobanned 😂😍
Please montoon luo yi has need revamp her pasif, if her satck was the same color it give her extra damage. And for the different stack would be stun. Thats it and boom she will be the stronges mage
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Same for gord burst is better than cdr
My favourite mage
U know in a teamfight when luo yi marked ya' all its a loss for u
Idk but I use burst build into almost all of the heroes😭
isn't this like the usual luo yi build?
I still prefer CD build. The faster the ultimate CD, the more paranoid my teammates are 😂
But aren’t burst luo yi kinda hard to clear minion waves? Since she uses a lot of first skill and mana. Also the cooldown. If she ever gets ganked when trying to clear waves
Finally I’m gonna see a luo yi in my matches
This build is not always gonna help especially if your solo. Every match the condition to use that build often rollercoaster ..
I hope they increase luo yi's passive stun to 1.3 s
Isnt that too long tho
And here I thought Xavier is the Master Mage of kill secure 😋😆
Trading CDR and early game dmg for late game dmg. Glowing Wand after Clock then Lightning should balance it in terms of game time. Divine in case of Athena’s Shield. Winter Truncheon (combo w/ ult) for survivability or Necklace in case of life steal scumbags or Holy Crystal.
also Hororo, could you make a Luo Yi compilation where you escape with ult + winter? enemies always delighted when i do it.
sure, this is good, but 45% CDR is more cozy 💅💅💅
Wait what? I have been using this build since I'm using her so I could 1 hit combo squishy heroes especially to 1 hit fanny, I thought people use this build for a long time now lol.
Picking Luo Yi basically turns your entire team into assassins
All hero hororo chan = cdr build
Haven't played her in a while
I've always built her full burst dmg
let’s be honest here everyone got used to cdr build right?
where have you been? she's always this scary when you build burst, not only her but also lylia before nerf
Yea bro she is under the radar. Bro her damage is insane. I bet if she been picked alot she will be nerfed. I always have a bad time vs her.
4:16 if it was the cd build, he would have died ther efor sure wih the iqw and gw passives
Wtf after watching this me:where is my luo damage
Now u know
As always
How about burst build with 40% cd 10% from emblem 10% from ult passive 10% from boot and 10% from lightning. I guess you need to recall more often for mana 😂.
Where do you get 10% from ult passive?
@@IAARPOTIyes
@@IAARPOTIyou need to lvl up to 12 first
@@jasonwanwinwun what how is it possible? Omg
@@jasonwanwinwun that sounds more like Layla or arllot ults cause they benefit a lot from leveling ult. I mean mana consuming is never problem cause you can use ult to reposition yourself.
!first
Firstt
The screen is different sir.. its similar yo cheat
I've got 5x savage with LUOYI 😊
Remember auto-aim flameshot not such a good idea HAHA
Now you will forever know that she is op😂
ONE SLAP ONE KILL
This is literally every luo yi in enemy team😂😂
i thought this is how you build her
me screaming here as if I'm the one playing lou yi😂😂😂
So, you wanna tell me that none of your teammates not being toxic on hanabi?
What a players 👏
bruh thats the old build for lou yi hororo, btw firsttt
wait you dont build Burst Luo yi...?
It's actually kinda impractical since in the end you better off using ET for support and cc. And, it's only effective when the enemy is squishy and no hard flashy dashes. But, still... Seeing enemy lose their hp bar in one yin-yang reactions is quite satisfying.
Yeah I was also surprised that a lot of people were not using burst build. I thought this build was in the top 2 or top 3 global builds already.
I do get why they use CDR though.
It's not effective if the enemies are tanky.
This ain't gonna work if there's a lot of tank or sustain in the enemy... Meaning this build is situational...
Hanabi feeeeeeed!!! 😂😂😂
Now I can comfirm haroro is a girl
U messed up whole the time, but u got the team, as always 😂
First
The tides immediately turn once she gets LT in the burst build.
Lowkey Novaria counter.
2+2=4
Hi
Miss your combo and you're dead😂
Ma gud my build