Your spot on with this one, I currently fish out of a '96 Stratos 278 dual console with a johnson 150, I love it, and have always love stratos, the biggest issue is the wiring, everytime I add something electrical wise it's a nightmare, I hate to even pull the panels off the dash.
Yup, I agree 100%. I gave up, and took it to my mechanic, and I’m having him pull the entire dash, and replacing the faded dash, and putting in new gauges. So, it’s not only good for another 20yrs (hopefully), but it’s serviceable if I do wind up needing to fix something. You can’t get the replacement switches, or LEDS either. But, short of that, I absolutely love mine. We got a great deal on it, and short of the dash, and disconnecting the oil-injection on the Evinrude 150, we haven’t had to do anything to it at all. Best boat I’ve ever owned….that’s for sure.
I’m still running my 94 201 pro xl. You were bang on with everything you said. The wiring pisses me off too. But still getting me on fish. I love and will have it till the end.
Still running a 93 201 Pro XL myself. Absolutely love it. Modernized it with a 225 opti, ghost, and poles. You’re absolutely right about the wiring. Lol.
I am still rocking my ‘97 Stratos 295 Pro Elite, mid-60s with team derby load with the Evinrude Vidicator 200 and a great ride. Over the 22 years I have had it , most of the wiring has been replaced as needed as electronics got upgraded. I have been looking to replace it for 5 years and haven’t been in a boat that made me say it was worth it. The BassCat P2 may change my mind.
My dad had a 95, and 07 285 pro xl. 95 had a white Johnson on it. Was a great boat. He still has his 07. Carpet is still immaculate. He has taken great care of it, but point is if you take care of them...15 years later it's still a great boat.
thank you for your knowledge on stratos boats. i have 1999 285 pro elite and love it. i have the original 175 johnson fast strike outboard that has never been abused and i still do regular compression check on it and all cyclinders have 120p of compress in each.
I have a 2007 Stratos 486 SF. it has a Yamaha 150 2 Stroke. Mine is a dark red, dark blue, and white. The color scheme is beautiful. The boat handles very well. I think that everything that you said is spot on. I hate the wiring behind the console. There is no fuse box. Just in line fuses and zip ties everywhere. I had to add my own fuse box to hook up some lights for the live well and the compartments. I may decide to rewire everything under the console, this fall, and run it all through a fuse box and bus bars.
I just watched about the stratos 176xt 2008. I got it new with a 50 mercury. I love this boat fishing in P.A not a lot of big water here but I use it on Erie it works very well
I love my 2002 19XL pro star. Excellent boat to fish out of and I have never had any real problems with it. I have taken out all of the original fish finders and made some custom panels to mount new graphs.
Just stumbled on this video,I had both models you mentioned,my 285 pro was a great deal,the guy didn't keep up with his oiler and burned a piston on the evinrude,I got a little crazy and just started taking it apart,from trolling motor,deck,the control panel was taken out,all that wire was gone,put together a new loom,I put a 200 merc efi,I used the loom from that boat,so much better,6" jack plate,sea star,turned out amazing,everyone with a stratos asked a million questions,it would cruise at 63 allday,plus I put a dual axle under it.
My first one was a 1990 274dc with a 150 intruder it was pretty good. . I then got a 1999 21. ss extreme with a 225 Johnson it was terrible rode like a slug and had the electronic dash panel that didn’t last long. I then got a 2002 20xlprostar with a 225 efi merc. I still have it today and it has been excellent!! Always wanted a 201 pro but just never happened.
I’ve got a 96 - 285 Pro XL and it’s a great boat. Completely agree about the wiring. I’m looking to re-do most of the wiring and I’d like to get away from the ridiculous switches and fuses on the side panel and just go to rocker style switches. Are you aware of anyone who makes aftermarket replacement panels to put in new switches?
Just picked up a 2000 295 Pro Elite with a 2020 ProXS 150 that looks like a black and blue jig that's been on the lake bottom (lived outside uncovered for sometime) . Aluminum lids, huge dual live wells, fast hull that rides so frikking smooth + easy to drive.
My 04 triton touch pad went out got after market switches and the timed recirculate won’t work now and it’s a plug in play called the seller and email not a response so now I’m stuck trying to figure it out.. 😫😫 to many Fkn wires like u said Andy!
I have a 2014 201 Pro XL Stratus and I love that boat it's my second one and it's a shame they did disappear and you're absolutely correct on your good bad and ugly about it.
Hay guys can you do a video on the bolt on the trim pin that falls out on the new mercury pro xs it happened to me and messed me up on New Year’s Day I think it could help a lot of people I didn’t know it was a problem and never checked it !!well it backed out and I would imagine you know how the rest of the story goes
It’s at the shop now I’m not sure the damage but the pin backed out about 2” because the bolt fell out and I could not trim up and the motor and it would not run over 40 when I tried it would shake like crazy it was like a rev limiter to protect the motor because it thought the motor was trimmed higher than it really was because it was not index right I had to pull the sensor off tapped the pin back in and I was able to run the trim to get out of the water huge pain in the ass I did not know this was a thing until it happened to me it probably wouldn’t hurt to let everybody know what to look for from what I was told there was a batch of motors that went out from mercury and they did not put Loctite on that bolt there is a bulletin and a fix for it I believe
I have a 285 pro xl love it .....but please tell me legend is coming back I was in the market when Mr Morris bought it and closed it. If the v20 legend is coming back please hit me up I'm buying a new boat next spring and would love it to be a legend.
I’ve got a 285 Pro XL. Got the 175 Johnson Fast Strike. My transom was rebuilt beautifully. But no one. And I mean no one will mess with that wiring around me. I’ve got a custom color scheme. Emerald blue with black and silver accent. I absolutely love the boat. Even with the wiring BS. One day I’ll rewire that bizz
I’ve got a 2005 294 with a 2012 200hp optimax and I love it the boat handles rough water incredibly and loaded with 3 people live wells full and a full tank of gas it runs 65 but with a light load and one person it easily does high 60’s and low 70’s.
Running a 2004 295 ProXL with 200 Vmax and love it. Go to boat shows every year looking for my next ride and see no reason to drop 90K for basically just a shiny new boat with 4 stroke. Maybe one day. Always entertaining and good stuff. Thanks.
I road in one on Toledo Bend back in the early to mid 90's and was not impressed. I guess after owning my 186 DC Champ at that time I was spoiled to a better ride. Sorry guys but it was the way I felt about the Stratos boat back then. Andy thanks for the channel, it has been great.
What...... You never mentioned my Stratos. I have the rare less than 200 built 1988 Stratos 200 VT Rocket designed by Roark Summerford. The STV guy. Sporting the Evinrude 200 XP I have the most perfect one left in existance. With the matching trailer of course.
Loved my 03 185 (285) Stratos. It was forest green gold silver and funny enough my next boat was a 2008 294 was in forest green gold olive. Good boats. Currently own a ranger but would gladly get into a 200xl or 201xl
Stratos was bought by Johnny Morris in 2016 I believe and shut down that year. The old legend plant is the triton plant now, I haven't seen anything interesting there.
Thanks for the video. I am about to purchase a 2000 22' Stratos with a 2007 150 hp Evenrude and i was just doing a search to see if it is a desent boat. Sounds like it is a pretty good bost. Thanks
I’m just curious potentially for future benefit. Was the optimax you put on there heavier than the original motor? And were you running power poles? I know they were both two stroke but was one lesser or more horsepower than the other. I’ve been warned by a good buddy to meet as close to exact specifications for transom weight especially on older boats. That’s why I won’t run power poles on my 93 285 pro xl
Another casualty of acquisition by tracker. They were part of the purchase of ranger and triton. By that time they had been reduced to the "entry level boat" with a fold out passenger console and appeared to have a deep draft though I never rode in one. By this time the 210 elite had been discontinued and champion and javelin lines dropped. That was the basic story as I remember it anyways. My wife always thou the fold out console was a nifty idea 🤔
I have had two champion boats. Would not own anything else. Smooth ride, comfortable ride and the most stable hull in rough water I have been in. Try one. You won't be disappointed. Stratos is an excellent boat as well.
I wanted a Stratos 285 more than anything back in the day. I was young, could barely afford it but I had saved a decent down payment and was ready to buy. Went to the dealer and they would NOT even talk to me….lol
My dad ran 3 different Stratos boats over the early to late 90s. Last one was a 96 201 Pro XL with a 225 Johnson Venom. Ran like a raped ape and handled the big stuff really well. Still one of the best looking boats in my eyes.
Spot on. I had a 95 285 pro XL with a fast strike until early this year. Sold it and bought a 2008 285 pro xl with a 150 opti. It’s amazing how 13 years later the boat almost rides and drives the exact same. Wiring is a bitch and who needs 37 switches.
Remember when you talked about a side by side comparison of the old transom savers and the dd26. Still waiting but i think i lnow why it never happened lol.
Haha yeah we do remember that. Originally we were going to try to get permission from the local county boys in blue to strap Jordan to a flat bed trailer and run him up alongside the boats but to do it on a 2 lane interstate requires state approval and we are still waiting on that.
I was told Johnny Morris of bass pro bought it and killed the company. I have a 2013 stratos 176vlo 17.5 glass boat with mercury 75 on it and I love it I wanted a small boat that wasn’t aluminum and it’s amazing for what but is. Fully loaded and me and my buddy both big guys we run 40-45 mph. And thing get amazing gas mileage for 2 stroke .
What boat brand, motor manufacturer, electronics manufacturer do you want us to review next?
Mercury
Legend
Minnkota
Do the mid 90s mercury efi motors. Like the black max.
Or do the mid 90s bass cats... panteras, caracals..etc.
Your spot on with this one, I currently fish out of a '96 Stratos 278 dual console with a johnson 150, I love it, and have always love stratos, the biggest issue is the wiring, everytime I add something electrical wise it's a nightmare, I hate to even pull the panels off the dash.
Yup, I agree 100%. I gave up, and took it to my mechanic, and I’m having him pull the entire dash, and replacing the faded dash, and putting in new gauges. So, it’s not only good for another 20yrs (hopefully), but it’s serviceable if I do wind up needing to fix something. You can’t get the replacement switches, or LEDS either. But, short of that, I absolutely love mine. We got a great deal on it, and short of the dash, and disconnecting the oil-injection on the Evinrude 150, we haven’t had to do anything to it at all. Best boat I’ve ever owned….that’s for sure.
I’m still running my 94 201 pro xl. You were bang on with everything you said. The wiring pisses me off too. But still getting me on fish. I love and will have it till the end.
Still running a 93 201 Pro XL myself. Absolutely love it. Modernized it with a 225 opti, ghost, and poles. You’re absolutely right about the wiring. Lol.
I am still rocking my ‘97 Stratos 295 Pro Elite, mid-60s with team derby load with the Evinrude Vidicator 200 and a great ride. Over the 22 years I have had it , most of the wiring has been replaced as needed as electronics got upgraded. I have been looking to replace it for 5 years and haven’t been in a boat that made me say it was worth it. The BassCat P2 may change my mind.
My first boat was a 04 Stratos Pro XL. Once I repowered it from a 175 Johnson to a 175 Evinrude she ran perfect. Great handling boat!
My dad had a 95, and 07 285 pro xl. 95 had a white Johnson on it. Was a great boat. He still has his 07. Carpet is still immaculate. He has taken great care of it, but point is if you take care of them...15 years later it's still a great boat.
Love my Stratos I run a 2009 294 pro xl with a 200 HO etec she will fly have no issues with the boat still catches the eye beautiful boat
thank you for your knowledge on stratos boats. i have 1999 285 pro elite and love it. i have the original 175 johnson fast strike outboard that has never been abused and i still do regular compression check on it and all cyclinders have 120p of compress in each.
How about doing the progator double hull bass boat out of Louisiana?
I have a 91 274fs with year matching 150gt Johnson. Thinking of a 4 stroke re power
I have a 2007 Stratos 486 SF. it has a Yamaha 150 2 Stroke. Mine is a dark red, dark blue, and white. The color scheme is beautiful. The boat handles very well. I think that everything that you said is spot on. I hate the wiring behind the console. There is no fuse box. Just in line fuses and zip ties everywhere. I had to add my own fuse box to hook up some lights for the live well and the compartments. I may decide to rewire everything under the console, this fall, and run it all through a fuse box and bus bars.
I just watched about the stratos 176xt 2008. I got it new with a 50 mercury. I love this boat fishing in P.A not a lot of big water here but I use it on Erie it works very well
I love my 2002 19XL pro star. Excellent boat to fish out of and I have never had any real problems with it. I have taken out all of the original fish finders and made some custom panels to mount new graphs.
Great show Andy 👍👍👍👍
Just stumbled on this video,I had both models you mentioned,my 285 pro was a great deal,the guy didn't keep up with his oiler and burned a piston on the evinrude,I got a little crazy and just started taking it apart,from trolling motor,deck,the control panel was taken out,all that wire was gone,put together a new loom,I put a 200 merc efi,I used the loom from that boat,so much better,6" jack plate,sea star,turned out amazing,everyone with a stratos asked a million questions,it would cruise at 63 allday,plus I put a dual axle under it.
Who loves Earl Bentz out there?
Yeap I had a 201 pro 1990 rude xp 200 good boat great vid love them
DD 26 great stuff I bought what you recommended !!!!
My first one was a 1990 274dc with a 150 intruder it was pretty good. . I then got a 1999 21. ss extreme with a 225 Johnson it was terrible rode like a slug and had the electronic dash panel that didn’t last long. I then got a 2002 20xlprostar with a 225 efi merc. I still have it today and it has been excellent!! Always wanted a 201 pro but just never happened.
I'm looking at an 87 Stratos 200 VT with a 150. It has the tunnel V hull. I'm going to check out it out this weekend. What are your thoughts?
I’ve got a 96 - 285 Pro XL and it’s a great boat. Completely agree about the wiring. I’m looking to re-do most of the wiring and I’d like to get away from the ridiculous switches and fuses on the side panel and just go to rocker style switches. Are you aware of anyone who makes aftermarket replacement panels to put in new switches?
Just picked up a 2000 295 Pro Elite with a 2020 ProXS 150 that looks like a black and blue jig that's been on the lake bottom (lived outside uncovered for sometime) . Aluminum lids, huge dual live wells, fast hull that rides so frikking smooth + easy to drive.
Too cute... she stole your thunder... 🤣🍺🎣
Sweet awesome news about the used parts store I hope you got some 2.4 Bridgeport Screamin demon parts 😁 I will be checking it out
Awesome video, thanks!
Excited for the store! I’ve never owned a stratos, but there are a ton of older ones on the water here. Must be quality boats.
SPEED MONEY NO BRAKES!!!! lets all have a better year in 22. thank you Andy and Team for your vids for us in 21!!!!
No problem buddy! Hope 22 is your best year friend
My first was a 91 275 with a 150hp. Loved it. But Phoenix boats reminds me of a stratos probably because Phoenix president came from stratos
My 04 triton touch pad went out got after market switches and the timed recirculate won’t work now and it’s a plug in play called the seller and email not a response so now I’m stuck trying to figure it out.. 😫😫 to many Fkn wires like u said Andy!
I have a 2014 201 Pro XL Stratus and I love that boat it's my second one and it's a shame they did disappear and you're absolutely correct on your good bad and ugly about it.
Every time you say Stratos is funny . Down here in the south it’s pronounced Strat us .
Love the channel !
Running a 95 stratos. I love my 2 stroke evinrude. Don’t have to worry about many things
What about the later models? Have my eye on a 2013 202 elite.
Happy New Year to you and the Crew Andy!!!🤓
Hay guys can you do a video on the bolt on the trim pin that falls out on the new mercury pro xs it happened to me and messed me up on New Year’s Day I think it could help a lot of people I didn’t know it was a problem and never checked it !!well it backed out and I would imagine you know how the rest of the story goes
Wrecked swivel bracket??? Or what did it do? We've had 2 guys up here that have it happen to them
It’s at the shop now I’m not sure the damage but the pin backed out about 2” because the bolt fell out and I could not trim up and the motor and it would not run over 40 when I tried it would shake like crazy it was like a rev limiter to protect the motor because it thought the motor was trimmed higher than it really was because it was not index right I had to pull the sensor off tapped the pin back in and I was able to run the trim to get out of the water huge pain in the ass I did not know this was a thing until it happened to me it probably wouldn’t hurt to let everybody know what to look for from what I was told there was a batch of motors that went out from mercury and they did not put Loctite on that bolt there is a bulletin and a fix for it I believe
I appreciate your videos keep up the great content thanks guys
Great video. Still have my 02 18xl with 150vmax
Do a hydrasport plz
I have a 285 pro xl love it .....but please tell me legend is coming back I was in the market when Mr Morris bought it and closed it. If the v20 legend is coming back please hit me up I'm buying a new boat next spring and would love it to be a legend.
Another good one that Johhny stuck a fork in. Can't wait until he pulls the plug on ranger.
Hey that's my baby girl Emelyn!!
Love the videos! Great job and I agree Stratos should still be on the market. Looking forward to the next video
I’ve got a 285 Pro XL. Got the 175 Johnson Fast Strike. My transom was rebuilt beautifully. But no one. And I mean no one will mess with that wiring around me. I’ve got a custom color scheme. Emerald blue with black and silver accent. I absolutely love the boat. Even with the wiring BS. One day I’ll rewire that bizz
Had a 19ss with the 200 Evinrude and it would fly
I’ve got a 2005 294 with a 2012 200hp optimax and I love it the boat handles rough water incredibly and loaded with 3 people live wells full and a full tank of gas it runs 65 but with a light load and one person it easily does high 60’s and low 70’s.
Need to do basscat
What year did stratus make the center console bass boat
Stratus was purchased by White River. Thanks for the series enjoy all of your shows.
Running a 2004 295 ProXL with 200 Vmax and love it. Go to boat shows every year looking for my next ride and see no reason to drop 90K for basically just a shiny new boat with 4 stroke. Maybe one day. Always entertaining and good stuff. Thanks.
I road in one on Toledo Bend back in the early to mid 90's and was not impressed. I guess after owning my 186 DC Champ at that time I was spoiled to a better ride. Sorry guys but it was the way I felt about the Stratos boat back then. Andy thanks for the channel, it has been great.
My first bass boat was a 270, my 2nd a 201 pro XL DC, and my 3rd a Triton TR-186. All great boats for the money and I still miss that 201 Pro.
How good was the 1986 1987 model year think mine is 19 foot long don’t remember the model thanks
I absolutely loved the two Stratos 285's I had.... Incredible boats that I really miss
I have a 1988 stratos 279v with a yamaha prov 150 any thoughts about the boat and motor
What...... You never mentioned my Stratos. I have the rare less than 200 built 1988 Stratos 200 VT Rocket designed by Roark Summerford. The STV guy. Sporting the Evinrude 200 XP I have the most perfect one left in existance. With the matching trailer of course.
I loved my stratos a lot of guys run them up here in Canada. I was going to upgrade but they closed the doors. If they open up I’d buy one.
Love my 95 201 F/S powered by a Johnson 200 but the wiring and plumbing is the nightmare, my goal for this year is complete rewire and simplification.
I recently bought a 1991 184 dc champion how can I tell if I have a regular 184 or a 184 super champ
Loved my 03 185 (285) Stratos. It was forest green gold silver and funny enough my next boat was a 2008 294 was in forest green gold olive. Good boats. Currently own a ranger but would gladly get into a 200xl or 201xl
Stratos was bought by Johnny Morris in 2016 I believe and shut down that year. The old legend plant is the triton plant now, I haven't seen anything interesting there.
Explains everything, damn Johnny Morris.
Happy new year!
You too Leo
Thanks for the video. I am about to purchase a 2000 22' Stratos with a 2007 150 hp Evenrude and i was just doing a search to see if it is a desent boat. Sounds like it is a pretty good bost. Thanks
I just picked up a 2000 22ss extreme myself. Im cleaning her up really good at the moment. Cant wait to get her in the water. Good luck with yours.
Johnny Morris happened . He killed the line
Yes and he put a bunch of great boat builders out of work here in Murfreesboro TN
This is an awesome series. Can we get one on Legend and why they resemble a champion-esk look?
Great idea
I have a Motorguide trolling motor I love. I know you aren't a fan. Can you do a video on them
What about warranties on Stratos boats under 10 yrs old ?
I owned a 179, 275,285, and 201 proxl. Great boats.
I have a 21 pro XL bought in 2003 still awesome boat got live scope all tracks Hummingbird 360 mega and on the council I got Hummingbird side imaging
I love my Stratos
Wished I would have kept my 285. What do you think of the skeeter zxr 21 package? Over or under?
I had my transom go out on my 91 295pro. I put a 2006 3.0 Optimax 200 on it and it ran so amazing up until then.
I’m just curious potentially for future benefit. Was the optimax you put on there heavier than the original motor? And were you running power poles? I know they were both two stroke but was one lesser or more horsepower than the other. I’ve been warned by a good buddy to meet as close to exact specifications for transom weight especially on older boats. That’s why I won’t run power poles on my 93 285 pro xl
Another casualty of acquisition by tracker. They were part of the purchase of ranger and triton. By that time they had been reduced to the "entry level boat" with a fold out passenger console and appeared to have a deep draft though I never rode in one. By this time the 210 elite had been discontinued and champion and javelin lines dropped. That was the basic story as I remember it anyways. My wife always thou the fold out console was a nifty idea 🤔
Never been in an outright Champion, but the Champ-Tos hull is probably the smoothest rough water ride I've ever been in!
I have had two champion boats. Would not own anything else. Smooth ride, comfortable ride and the most stable hull in rough water I have been in. Try one. You won't be disappointed. Stratos is an excellent boat as well.
Looking forward to more Awesome. What about the Skeeter FX vs FXR
My dad owns a 295 pro elite and 2 of my buddies own 201 pro XL they all run great and eat up a 2 foot chop
Love my 95 285 pro xl. Johnson fast strike for the win, still running strong!
Hey do u know if there’s wood in this boat? I’m looking at a 94 285 pro xl - looks in great shape from pics - I know many had wood in transom
I have a 95 Stratos 278 with a evinrude 150. Great boat
BTW..love your show!!
i am needing a 27 TI yamaha prop if you have one
We will look for ya
@@TeamMarineService thank you
Enjoying the series! How about good/bad/ugly on forward facing sonar... that seems pretty controversial lately
I own a 06 stratos 285 pro xl and love it wouldn't want any other boat absolutely no wood anywhere in the boat
I wanted a Stratos 285 more than anything back in the day. I was young, could barely afford it but I had saved a decent down payment and was ready to buy. Went to the dealer and they would NOT even talk to me….lol
Anyone know anything about a 96 Stratos 288V?
What years did Stratos use the Champion hull???
I think 2009 thru 2012
i had a 295 pro..the boat was great,the ficht either went really fast,or it didnt go..no inbetween
My dad ran 3 different Stratos boats over the early to late 90s. Last one was a 96 201 Pro XL with a 225 Johnson Venom. Ran like a raped ape and handled the big stuff really well. Still one of the best looking boats in my eyes.
What color was that boat by chance?
@@thehaydonsmith it was a deep red/burgundy and silver accents, and a white bottom hull
Spot on. I had a 95 285 pro XL with a fast strike until early this year. Sold it and bought a 2008 285 pro xl with a 150 opti. It’s amazing how 13 years later the boat almost rides and drives the exact same. Wiring is a bitch and who needs 37 switches.
Happy Friday and Happy New Years folks!!
Skeeter or basscat?
We will do both!
Remember when you talked about a side by side comparison of the old transom savers and the dd26. Still waiting but i think i lnow why it never happened lol.
Haha yeah we do remember that. Originally we were going to try to get permission from the local county boys in blue to strap Jordan to a flat bed trailer and run him up alongside the boats but to do it on a 2 lane interstate requires state approval and we are still waiting on that.
Just use a gopro
It's too bad Earl had to sell out AGAIN!
Ol' Earl liked to wheel and deal didn't he? His days at Caymas are numbered
@@TeamMarineService Haha totally, it's only a matter of time
Ol stratos 90s classic that’s a Johnny Morris company white river marine group
I bought a 1997 282 with a Johnson 150 Ficht ….. can’t say much about it yet except it’s clean ….
I love my 95 285 proxl
Yeah, Johnny Morris and White River Marine bought them and shut them down in 2017🙄 Johnny had to eliminate the competition.
How much would you guys charge to re power a boat with a brand new Suzuki 200 and all the gauges and electronics?
What boat do ya have?
I was told Johnny Morris of bass pro bought it and killed the company. I have a 2013 stratos 176vlo 17.5 glass boat with mercury 75 on it and I love it I wanted a small boat that wasn’t aluminum and it’s amazing for what but is. Fully loaded and me and my buddy both big guys we run 40-45 mph. And thing get amazing gas mileage for 2 stroke .
You are correct
Still have Stratos 200 Pro XL repower with a SHO 225 flash to 300 hp she will run 86 mph gps
201 Stratos was a fantastic hull.
Do the G,B,and Ugly on Javlin🤓Andy.Make it a compromise to the trolling motor battle😜😜😜just asking😁