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  • @tronmaster5704
    @tronmaster5704 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    That sigh before "breastforce" is just a mood.

    • @AFlyingSwive
      @AFlyingSwive ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I lost it at "horn breast"

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He saw the comments section of the Deathsaurus video. He knew what was being implied.

  • @CsBTransition
    @CsBTransition ปีที่แล้ว +561

    There’s a fine line where Breastforce is too silly and Headmasters is A-OK.

    • @jonmason1742
      @jonmason1742 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      😆😆😆😆😆

    • @spanglezekankleplushapalooza
      @spanglezekankleplushapalooza ปีที่แล้ว +32

      You sir, just made my day.

    • @mortelpaolo
      @mortelpaolo ปีที่แล้ว +37

      And her name is Heather Brooke. A true headmaster.

    • @davetycho8330
      @davetycho8330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Breastmasters?

    • @jonmason1742
      @jonmason1742 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@mortelpaolo I feel ashamed that I know axactly who you're talking about 😆😆😆😆🤷‍♂️

  • @MezTZO
    @MezTZO ปีที่แล้ว +459

    I've always preferred the fan name, "Armor Masters". That way you can call attention to the team's main gimmick and pay homage to all the "-Master" sub-types of Transformers that were coming out at the time they were first introduced. It even works because each member had a smaller partner that becomes a part of them, just like Head-, Target- and Powermasters did.

    • @magatetus
      @magatetus ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That would work, the Armor Masters.

    • @ShadowWingTronix
      @ShadowWingTronix ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I like it. Also the Brainmasters. Someone get Hasbro on this.

    • @load-bearingcoconut5586
      @load-bearingcoconut5586 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ShadowWingTronix Brainmasters are already a thing though?

    • @ShadowWingTronix
      @ShadowWingTronix ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@load-bearingcoconut5586 No, that would be a terrible name for Leozack and friends. I was just adding to the "X-Master" list with the one partner team the original poster didn't mention as further proof "Armormasters" could work. In fact they could probably enhance the idea with armor pieces all over, kind of like how they botched the Mini-Cons by not focusing on their armor and weapon potential. Sorry I wasn't clear.

    • @Undrave
      @Undrave ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That would work well! And they could make it clear that using the animal partner as a weapon is giving up some of their defenses.

  • @psychokitty444
    @psychokitty444 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Having not seen Victory, that's actually really neat that they spent that long focusing on the individual members and building the team up. Makes Liokaiser himself much more of a payoff.

    • @Hektols
      @Hektols ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Watch it, things completely change when Liokaiser is introduced.

  • @TFfangeek
    @TFfangeek ปีที่แล้ว +127

    A simple solution to changing Liokaiser's team name is instead of "Breastforce," calling the Decepticons who combine into him, the "Beastforce," by removing the first letter "r" in the groups name.

    • @pkrockinomega4184
      @pkrockinomega4184 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Beast force is a way better name! They could also call themselves the Armor force because breast plates are armor.

    • @MezTZO
      @MezTZO ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It only semi-kinda works, because on hearing the name "Beastforce" your first inclination is to expect them to transform into animals themselves.

    • @TFfangeek
      @TFfangeek ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@pkrockinomega4184 Armor Force is a fantastic name too. :D

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MezTZO The chest plates do turn into animals, so it does make sense.

    • @GioNToji
      @GioNToji ปีที่แล้ว +8

      All of them have animal names. Beastforce is good fit for their team's name.

  • @TFormers2002
    @TFormers2002 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    It's unfortunate for Deathcobra in IDW because when Liokaiser made the cameo in combined mode, the artist accidentally drew and colored him with Hellbat as the left arm like normal despite him being dead. Which means Deathcobra still has not "officially" been seen as part of the Liokaiser form. Poor guy

    • @random_dev3703
      @random_dev3703 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well, I like to interpret it as Drillhorn becoming the left arm sense he is on the same side of Liokizer as hellbat.

  • @bilal_H907
    @bilal_H907 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    liokaiser was one of my fan favourite combiners,something about his color scheme,design and his face sculpt,really wish if the combiner wars figure did got some Justice

  • @bilal_H907
    @bilal_H907 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Its funny and ironic how the torso of combiner wars liokaiser is formed by deathsauas himself,whose a repaint of sky lynx

    • @tartatovsky
      @tartatovsky หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its both. Lore wise Deathsaurus and Leozack were damaged and had to be combined resulting in Dezaras. Which is also the reason why the choose Skylynx (Bird mode =Deathsaurus, Lynx mode= Leozack)

  • @Nx57ytre
    @Nx57ytre ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I'm surprised they didn't make a comeback in the War of Cyberetron Trilogy, their original gimmick would have meshed well with the C.O.M.B.A.T. System. Maybe we'll see them in Legacy.
    It's weird, but I like Big Rescue Force Bot, at least in concept. Instead of turning into a humanoid combiner, he has a realistic mecha vibe, sort of like a MechWarrior.

  • @-mcpie-6802
    @-mcpie-6802 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    If I had to rename the entire team, I would go with "Crestforce", "Beastforce or "Shieldforce".

  • @todddavis2041
    @todddavis2041 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Well unfortunate name aside, i hope that if Hasbro or Takara do a modern remake of Liokaiser they do it accurately. Both in terms of name and appearance. Also, i hope we get Deathcobra and his partner too.

    • @user-ju2jj3vi4d
      @user-ju2jj3vi4d ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Deathcobra's animal partner is named cobrabreast.

  • @i.m.evilhomer5084
    @i.m.evilhomer5084 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I couldn't contain my Peter Griffin-esque giggles for this episode.

  • @sanedimentio
    @sanedimentio ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I was always of the mind that if the Breastforce would get localized with the breast animals they would have been renamed Armor Masters, as the style is similar to HeadMasters and Target Masters.

    • @anthonyfillbrunn2391
      @anthonyfillbrunn2391 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That would make sense or you could call them combatmasters since there chestplates become both a weapon and an animal.

    • @AztecCroc
      @AztecCroc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or BeastMasters and then they could be called the Beastforce.

    • @justinarzola4584
      @justinarzola4584 ปีที่แล้ว

      They would have probably used the beast suffix instead.

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinarzola4584 *prefix
      Suffixes come at the end, prefixes at the beginning.

  • @sivanlevi3867
    @sivanlevi3867 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In Transformers roleplay, me and a friend of mine call these Decepticons something less embarrassing to say, but still close enough to the gimmick to be fitting.
    I gave them the name Heartmasters and also reinvented them into Decepticon members of the Transformers ninja group, the Six Clan.
    Members named, Leozak, Fellbat (renamed Hellbat), Jallguar, Ironbison (renamed Killbison), Guyhawk, Drillhorn, Lizak (who turns into Liokaiser's sword) and Cobranite (renamed Deathcobra, who turns into Liokaiser's shield)
    I also renamed their animal partners, giving one to Lizak and Cobranite as well.
    Lionbreast as Nemea (after the lion defeated by Hercules)
    Jaguarbreast as Jaguar (simple I know, but I couldn't think of anything else)
    Komoribreast as Revenant (spooky sounding)
    Hawkbreast as Rockbeak (kind of like Laserbeak, sort of)
    Bisonbreast as Rodeo (I mean why not?)
    Hornbreast as Dunehorn (close to his master's name, but it figures right?)
    Tigerbreast as Sphinx (he does have wing-like attachments after all)
    Eaglebreast as Garuda (after the bird monster from Indian myth)
    Cobranite's partner I named Coblast (slightly clever, but ya know)
    Lizak's partner is Sabor (after the leopard from the movie Tarzan)

  • @Gaia_BentosZX5
    @Gaia_BentosZX5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Correction: "The unfortunate name" is due to the fact that "Chest" does not exist in the japanese language, and is a unisex word to describe both a male and female chest. This is also present in Mazinger Z's signature attack, Breast Fire. In short, "Breastforce" (named after their unique gimmick) in this context doesn't sound sexual at all where in the context of Kiss Players, the word is seen as sexual. Keep in mind that this is happening during the "sanitization era" of US animation during the Satanic Panic, between stuff like Kissyfur and the Little Clowns of Happytown.

    • @GinraiPrime666
      @GinraiPrime666 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its not so much an issue with the name, if people look at the name and giggle like children then ultimately the issue is with them, not the Breastforce. If Breast Fire is good enough for Mazinger Z and most mecha fans can say that name with a straight face, I don't see why Transformers fans can't do the same for the Breastforce.

    • @captainlastreo5160
      @captainlastreo5160 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@GinraiPrime666 Fans giggle because it's a stupid name.

    • @friskybitzboi
      @friskybitzboi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GinraiPrime666 You can’t pretend that the name works all that well in English. The word breast has connotations that “chest” doesn’t and it’s not immature to acknowledge that

    • @GinraiPrime666
      @GinraiPrime666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@friskybitzboi Its not that its immature to acknowledge that, personally speaking I don't let it bother me. It refers to Breastplates which is what their animal partners are, refers to their armour. If the word Breastplate can work then I don't see why Breastforce couldn't, even if they changed it to how it was in the Metrodome Victory subtitles of Brestforce would be fine.

    • @kaylemathewcomendador6964
      @kaylemathewcomendador6964 ปีที่แล้ว

      So basically it looks like a regional thing.

  • @sarahquinn6849
    @sarahquinn6849 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    I’ve always thought a good name to replace “breastformers” would be Maraudercons
    Also hoping to see an episode on Raiden/Rail Racer one day 🤞🏻🤞🏻

    • @kilroywashere513
      @kilroywashere513 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That’s a interesting name🤔.

    • @snooze821
      @snooze821 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Or just remove one extra letter and call them, 'Beastforce' which probably what was suppose to happen but probably a typo got pushed through and nobody corrected it in time which was very common at the time in Japan. It's what happened to Donkey Kong.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@snooze821 I think the Japanese intended it to be "Breastforce". If you look it up in the dictionary, one definition of "breast" is just the chest area of a person or other animal, male or female. The were probably just not thinking at all or completely unaware of the other definition referring to a woman's anatomy, considering all the Breastforce characters are male.
      "Donkey" comes from donkeys being stubborn. The whole mistyped "Monkey Kong" story is a myth. And Donkey Kong is a gorilla, so "Monkey Kong" would still be referring to the wrong animal.

    • @cameronmoriarty3313
      @cameronmoriarty3313 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He mentioned recently he is thinking on an Autobot train video, but he is waiting (at minimum) for all of the MPG Raiden to be fully revealed to make sure it is included in the video.

    • @NovaSaber
      @NovaSaber ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@KasumiKenshirou In Japanese media, the English word "breast" means "breastplate" (armor that covers the chest) more often than it refers to the chest itself. That's certainly what it means for the Breastforce.
      So maybe "Armorforce" would be a better altered name? (Or "Platemasters"? It's always been weird that they're the only "small partner gimmick" from G1 that don't have "master" in their name.)

  • @Papai_Pai
    @Papai_Pai ปีที่แล้ว +20

    you would have thought somebody at the marketing department would have thought maybe armour force be a more appropriate name

  • @gluever54
    @gluever54 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "So this charcter Death Cobra, he turns into a helicopter. Any guess to what helicopter?"
    "The AH-"
    "That's right! The Mi-24 Hind!"

  • @TheTimPilot
    @TheTimPilot ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Since Deathcobra never had its own toy, a friend and I made our own custom figure in 2019. It is fully transformable, has breastforce weapon and can combine with Liokaiser as his left arm. We made it as an exclusive for a toy con in Norway, and there now exists only nine figures of Deathcobra in the world. The next year we changed it a bit and made it as an Autobot called Diveblade that combines as a right arm.

    • @user-ju2jj3vi4d
      @user-ju2jj3vi4d ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Deathcobra will be an excellent choice for selects due to the release of siege Spinister.

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 ปีที่แล้ว

      how did you make your own figure?

  • @mr.end-game711
    @mr.end-game711 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    given that we are getting a six man combiner team from the Dinobots in Legacy Evolution, we could see an new iteration of Liokaiser in the future.

    • @svartmetallyst7712
      @svartmetallyst7712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And if you take into account the HasLab Star Saber and the recently revealed Galaxy Shuttle in the Speedia 500... I think a new Liokaiser and Deathsaurus is just around the corner (and I really hope that Road Caesar and Landcross are too).

  • @itszeronizer597
    @itszeronizer597 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Here’s how I think they might work, they start out as new recruits, leozack could be the leader trying to rise to the top (although not through treacherous means unlike starscream, who could be his mentor) guyhawk could be a narcissistic jerk who becomes a better person, hellbat (or fellbat) could be a loner who later gets along with his team later on and has a friendly rivalry with death cobra (or ghost cobra) who replaces him later when he is killed battling the armies of unicron, jaguller could be someone with anger issues who often gets into fights, kill bison (or iron bison) could be a muscle of the group, who isn’t vey intelligent, and drill horn could be the team’s mechanical expert. The autobot rescue team could be shattered glass versions of them.

  • @bluemodelt
    @bluemodelt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just gonna go ahead and say it. Thank you for keeping us ABreast of the situation.

  • @mikestudioz216
    @mikestudioz216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:26 Nice addition of the sigh. Makes it all the more humorous!

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Those Japanese really had some funny names to call their characters

  • @cyberprime9355
    @cyberprime9355 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Dubious Team name aside, I will call them "Destrons" since they are named that on their US Toy packaging and in the mobile game. Although, given their gimmick involving beast partners, why not rebrand them as the "Beastforce" or "Primal Force"
    Regardless, these bots are the stand-out stars of the Victory anime, what with their conflicting yet memorable personalities, and the stories that featured them (even if that is by of being Deathsaurus' Goon Squad).
    Also, I do hope Jallguar makes it in the mobile game if only as a non-combining member of the team.

  • @GetIrked
    @GetIrked ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why it’s always important to translate your product name into other languages! 😂 Chevy learned this when the Nova failed to sell in Mexico where it translated into “No Go.”
    FANTASTIC VIDEO!! I died laughing when you sighed before saying, “Breast Force.”

  • @user-ir1xo9jp8w
    @user-ir1xo9jp8w ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pauses after saying something related to "breast" is what made this video all the more entertaining besides learning about Liokaiser lol.

  • @shadowmarauder6033
    @shadowmarauder6033 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Another great english name could be “Beast force” to reflect their animal partners. Heck, the normal transformers could turn into animals as well if they go by that name!

    • @madskillz808
      @madskillz808 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can imagine that's the first thing hasbro thought of, but I reckon they didn't go with it because of power rangers.

    • @MezTZO
      @MezTZO ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've always preferred the fan name, "Armor Masters". That way you can call attention to the team's main gimmick and pay homage to all the "-Master" sub-types of Transformers that were coming out at the time they were first introduced. It even works because each member had a smaller partner that becomes a part of them, just like Head-, Target- and Powermasters did.

  • @loothhussainfazeel855
    @loothhussainfazeel855 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like "Ultracon" as a new moniker for this group.

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ayyy that’s one way to call back Ratbat’s old group

    • @dustinarmstrong1168
      @dustinarmstrong1168 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's even got a bat themed fella in the group too.

  • @peterdanior4538
    @peterdanior4538 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The name Breastforce isn’t so bad. Imagine if their weapons/animals were made from their crotch plates instead.

  • @d23iu4hr
    @d23iu4hr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh, that blue and white rescue force car was possibly the final G1(?) transformers toy I ever received and it always bugged me that I never knew its name... and now I finally know, that it was because it never had one..!

  • @SentaiDadvsRiderGirl
    @SentaiDadvsRiderGirl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is a set of unofficial toys from Iron Factory for Lio Kaiser that's really cool and perhaps worth mentioning here.

  • @serbianslav5494
    @serbianslav5494 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:52 For anyone wondering, the helicopter is a Mil Mi-24 "Hind" from the USSR.

  • @colestrawn4304
    @colestrawn4304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally a good name for them could be "adaptacons" because their partner figures can form into a chestplate/ detachable shield for added defence, a gun for long range offense, and an anine for scouting.

  • @Chill_With_Will
    @Chill_With_Will ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think Liokaiser would make a great haslab. Especially if they could figure out a way to maintain the fact that the g1 figure didn't need any additional parts to combine beside like the head. Maybe a team of voyagers. Given how well Star Saber did its possible

  • @m.e.c.hn.e.s.t4757
    @m.e.c.hn.e.s.t4757 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Additionally: the (sigh) Breastforce also inspired Soundwave's way to deploy Laserbeak in Transformers: Prime.

  • @ETH5626
    @ETH5626 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Megatron would be extremely pleased having Liokaiser in his army, considering his brute strength, cunning, and unlike the other combiners (with a small exception to Predaking since he's always focused on one thing) he doesn't really have a mental handicap and has the ability to turn invisible. I mean I can picture Liokaiser giving Optimus Prime and the Autobots a hard time as if Devastator wasn't bad enough.

  • @mettaton1669
    @mettaton1669 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is easily my favorite combiner team and combiner. I'm so excited to see you've finally done a video on these guys

  • @XxAzraelGTxX
    @XxAzraelGTxX ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Breast Force was a force to be reckoned for in Victory. Leo Zack wasn't the typical Starscream copy, he was clever, resourceful and an accomplished fighter. Even going against Star Saber without combining. Kaizer were also the reason [spoilers] Victory Leo exists. And Death Saurus was sometimes reluctant of them because of their skill and power.

  • @hobartpaving8986
    @hobartpaving8986 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never mind the odd repaint, I’d give someone else’s left arm for a Siege-level line of Victory toys (throw in Dai Atlas, Grandus, and Sky Garry too)…

  • @calebporter3735
    @calebporter3735 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like a suitable replacement name would be "Blastforce" since someone on Twitter pointed out that in Japanese, it's pronounced basically the same way.

  • @Ontarioku77
    @Ontarioku77 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kinda surprised they didn’t just drop to R and call them Beast Force since they have the animal motif robot modes and names. Heck make them a dark parody of sentai teams like the Ginyu force

  • @Chill_With_Will
    @Chill_With_Will ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like you could easily just change you could just change the name to Armor Force or something like that. The breast animals are on their chest like armor boom there you go its like prime armor

  • @brainlock72
    @brainlock72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I had known more about this team for the Liokaiser combiner set. I would have picked it up when it was semi-readily available.
    Toy shop I usually frequent in StL got in numerous cases of Combiner era toys, but most of them were bought by some guy with Wyoming plates. They were packing him up as I was coming in. I had to joke and point out where I was parked. 😜
    I did manage to get a few planes and other Combiners out of that lot, tho. I think I still have several chest pieces from Marshall’s when they were dropping there for $15. Only ever saw one SkyLynx, tho.

  • @RobinSwede
    @RobinSwede ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Classic Saturday vibes. Watching the latest basics episode followed by a new jobby review.
    Life’s good.

  • @brainstorm9560
    @brainstorm9560 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah, yes the Breastforce. 😆
    I'm currently planning a fanfic which will feature the Breastmasters but I'm going to call them Thoraxicons (thorax is latin for chest and con is so they fit better with the naming convention of other Decepticon combiner teams). The Breast-Animals will simple be reffered to as minicons and their individual names will be Lionbeast, Komoribeast, Bisonbeast, Jaguarbeast, Hornbeast and Hawkbreast (I feel no need to rename Hawkbreast since breast just has a different connotation when its a bird). I'm also giving Lyzack her own minicon named Lynxbeast cause I feel she deserves it.😊
    Despite the silly name, I love the Breastforce. Their dynamic was one of the highlights of Transformers Victory.

  • @christianbrown2471
    @christianbrown2471 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video as always....I bought the Combiner Wars set a few years ago and just thought he looked cool as hell. Really didn't know his backstory but now it makes sense to me. Keep these videos coming bro...expanding my Transformers knowledge is always a plus.

  • @Robbobobobobobo
    @Robbobobobobobo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What the hell i recently got the rescue crane figure at a flea market! I never knew it was a recolored part of liokaiser that's so cool!

  • @dredskl
    @dredskl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how they gave a 10,000 ton robot invisibility like nobody was going to notice his footsteps or something

  • @Autocon609
    @Autocon609 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never understood why Hasbro didn't import them and sell them as "Battlemasters" (We already had Head, Power, Target, Brain, God, & Micro). Battlemasters makes sense when it comes to the chest components: +Attack when a Weapon, +Defense when a Plate & Balanced when an animal.

  • @MoCa1979Jr
    @MoCa1979Jr ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Since they're kinda based off of the idea of knights wearing their crests on their breast plates, I've thought of a few new team names. "Crest Force", "CrestCons", or "CrestFormers" would be better names to me. They should have their "Crest Creatures" back, that double as their weapons & breastplates. And their new combined name should be "Crest King", "Kaiser Crest", or "Lio Crest".

  • @ZonoYT
    @ZonoYT ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love how Liokaiser is designed and I hope that he's the next Haslab project

    • @svartmetallyst7712
      @svartmetallyst7712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope not, because if Liokaiser is a HasLab exclusive, that will mean a lot of people (including me, yes) won't be able to get it.

    • @ZonoYT
      @ZonoYT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@svartmetallyst7712 sucks to be you lol

    • @Eternal_Sky_Tardis
      @Eternal_Sky_Tardis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@svartmetallyst7712
      IKR! Why does everyone want Liokaiser in Haslab??? Just put him in the mainline like Menasor

    • @sidearmsalpha
      @sidearmsalpha ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eternal_Sky_Tardis Because they'll just go cheap on it and reuse the same molds or remold them from some other figures like they did with the CW version. I have the TFC version and while it's not perfect, it's the best set out there with each figure being unique.

  • @jonpower9728
    @jonpower9728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to get this off my chest. I'm glad this video came out.

  • @dank_smirk2ndchannel200
    @dank_smirk2ndchannel200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ribforce might be a good name. It's still named after the same general area while being a bit morbid, which is fitting for an evil team.

  • @harumochizuki
    @harumochizuki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m seeing a lot of people commenting the seemingly loved fan name of “Armor Masters,” so I figure I’d take a crack at an alternate name. I saw the team deployed their companions as ranged laser weapons as well, and they still had the broad shaping as per the design of the toys in chest plate or animal form. I could see them redesigned so that the companions bots could be used in chest plate mode as a handheld shield, say, to accompany an energy saber. Ergo, how about “Shieldmasters?”

  • @slicerneons3300
    @slicerneons3300 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    We deserve an official Deathcobra Figure!

    • @darrenheideman2546
      @darrenheideman2546 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With Victory Saber getting so much attention recently...

    • @user-ju2jj3vi4d
      @user-ju2jj3vi4d ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Deathcobra will be an excellent choice due to the release of siege Spinister.

  • @raizer3959
    @raizer3959 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just only one thing- how come Nosecone and Drillhorn both are same body styles, form, and shape, transform into alt modes differently, most notably their turret heads?

  • @twistedwither9190
    @twistedwither9190 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been waiting for this for so long thank you so much for making this! 😊

  • @handle69420cheese
    @handle69420cheese ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I kept misreading their name as 'Beastforce' instead but that could unironically work as a new name as well (considering their whole animal theme) lol

  • @Hektols
    @Hektols ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the theory that the constant bond that they had with their animal partners is what allowed them to combine into the mentally stable and intelligent Liokaiser.

    • @gabrielchee8470
      @gabrielchee8470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah,makes sense, like Piranhacon and Predaking used similar mechanics to stay sane

  • @bilal_H907
    @bilal_H907 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    About time,Deathsaurus' goon squad gets some love...even if some them are sadistic AF. But, slight Deviation, Hasbro authorized
    Liokaiser to be a 5-bot combiner to keep
    things even with Computron in Earth
    Wars....have to wonder if the 6th bot will
    come back as a gun for Liokaiser?
    Side note: Here's hoping the Trainbots
    get a little love. I mean sure they have
    Masterpiece figures, but nothing for others.
    Also, for those unfamiliar, these bots,
    currently called "Destrons" are actually
    called the"Brestforce" (Deliberately
    misspelled based on the Anime)
    Two of the members, "Hellbat" and
    "Killbison" were renamed to "Fellbat" and
    "Ironbison
    Also, said Kill//ronbison is pretty fond of
    "flipping off" his adversaries

  • @ChaosCounseling
    @ChaosCounseling ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for covering my favorite combiner

  • @kingtony_xx_0517
    @kingtony_xx_0517 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    To me liokaiser was unique, the way they toys had 2 gimmicks, that fact that the combiner was made up of 6 members instead of 5. So far the only new version on the "destrons" thats exactly like the originals was a 3rd party set. With Hasbro/Takara set to finish of Legacy Menasor within the next few months, there are plenty of Combiners for them to tackle now, who knows, maybe liokaiser will get a little love.

  • @keichishoshuko
    @keichishoshuko ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I grew up in asia owning Guyhawk and Killbison. and always wanted to complete the team. imagine my face when after I got back to TF hearing that these were super rare!

  • @tridentsilver766
    @tridentsilver766 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Getting a legacy breastforce pack would honestly be so funny and cool I would get it in a heart beat. He a character that I would love to see released either in the Mainline or part of Haslab with incredible articulation and other goodies

  • @Calaburst
    @Calaburst ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So cool, I still need to get the Victory DVD collection to truly enjoy these characters!

  • @thomascollette4498
    @thomascollette4498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This should be in your obscure caricter month Playlist

  • @ariaformae
    @ariaformae ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid! I’d love to see one of these for Override, she was one of my favourite characters in Transformers Cybertron

  • @ETBowser
    @ETBowser ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these guys. Thought it was cool that Leozack was the Starscream to Deathsaurus' Megatron, but Hellbat wound up being the biggest meddler of them all. They were all a bunch of backstabbers.

  • @glennsalsi
    @glennsalsi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve added arms microns and some battle masters to my combiner wars look wiser members; I feel like if you add some bits to the limbs the members can look pretty good but I hate the torso; I so wish the had retooled combiner wars starscream into leozak!

  • @johngrady8375
    @johngrady8375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a good alternative name for the group could be "The Six Pack" in reference to their number, animal partners, and chest motif

  • @RockNerdRadio
    @RockNerdRadio ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always been a fan of these guys. Great episode!

  • @andylloyd415
    @andylloyd415 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope for Halloween, The Basics covers an appropriately creepy bot, like Mindwipe or Tarantulas.

    • @robertespley248
      @robertespley248 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to see a basics on "Deaths Head" for Halloween, he's one character that can tie Marvel , Doctor Who and Transformers together into a sort of multiverse . Plus he's got a face that screams "Halloween "

    • @DavidHutchinson0713
      @DavidHutchinson0713 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tarantulas would be good

  • @aidenmb7932
    @aidenmb7932 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk how it took me this long, but i only just learned he was a decepticon

  • @maskedriderweaver4122
    @maskedriderweaver4122 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember hearing about these guys when the internet first started to be big. I thought the name was a joke, but I found the characters (and the concept) very interesting. I'm glad they are making some headway into the West, but agree the name needs work.

  • @NotKazuraMiller1557
    @NotKazuraMiller1557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guyhawk is like Vamp from MGS2 and 4
    He shoots ice knifes like Vamp.

  • @standardprotocolformat6090
    @standardprotocolformat6090 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't know why, but, I am now craving a good old milkshake.

  • @patrickhein6986
    @patrickhein6986 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Chris. I would love to see an Basics on Autobot Nightbeat at one Time. He is one of my Favourite Transformers.

  • @HiperPivociarz
    @HiperPivociarz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, if that name is a no go, how about Beastforce? It's one letter away. It still describes their gimmick perfectly. And it doesn't make you think about jabbos.

  • @moomanchu608
    @moomanchu608 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the TFC Hades 3rd party version recently. Looks dope af. In fact its on my desk right now

  • @cobaltprime9467
    @cobaltprime9467 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even “Chest Force” would have sounded better
    Edit: Oh and they did lol
    But a better name I can think of is the “Lio Force” or “Kaiser Squad.”

  • @angelomendoza1174
    @angelomendoza1174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The westernized "Chestforce" name is fine, but there were other various names such as the "Rack Pack" or maybe "Bosom Buddies" for example!!! Did you noticed that the seventh member and Hellbat's replacement Deathcobra resembles Serpentor, which he was Cobra Commander's replacement as well as the new leader of Cobra!!!

  • @matthewhazzard409
    @matthewhazzard409 ปีที่แล้ว

    A friend had the yellow recolour of the drill leg - we always thought he was a technobot!!! 😂

  • @Protosilver97
    @Protosilver97 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Timelines Seprpent O.R. (based on the GI Joe character) could do a good stand-in for Deathcobra, especially the IDW version.

  • @brandonandcharlene9527
    @brandonandcharlene9527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LioKsiser is hands down one of my favorite Combiners. I'd love to see more encounters with them and other combiners like Superion, Bruticus etc. Also, Im one of the few that actually liked the CW toy, but if Hasbro/TT actually developed alternate deluxe versions of Leozack and Jagullar to form the body, and the limbs would still work, I'd definitely get them.

  • @tannerprice2018
    @tannerprice2018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love Chris’ unfortunate sigh as he had to say the word “Breastforce,” as if he’s like “Ugh, people are gonna make jokes in the comments non-stop about this…”

  • @Two-Man-Production
    @Two-Man-Production ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve always called them B-Force

  • @seriouslycrazy8608
    @seriouslycrazy8608 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why we don't just called this team beastforce ? Also take a drink everytime chris say breast in this video

    • @lewiekong
      @lewiekong ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's too early to be this drunk

  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember watching the anime. Hellbat was my favorite. He was a funny character. There were times when I felt sorry for him because the situation just didn't go his way.

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If they ever merge the characters with modern transformers media, the "Chestforce" for lack of a solid name at this point, could come from the same colony planet as all those Animal themed Decepticons that still turned into Vehicles from RiD, the ones who were held on the prison ship Alcamor. That is one way they could explain the oddness of those Animal Decepticons from that series and leave the door open for such a concept if any future TF writers wanted to use it and bring back any of the RiD Alcamor Prisoners as-is rather than having to re-design them to fit. Steeljaw and Thunderhoof are probably enjoyed exactly as they are, so fans of the characters would probably dislike their designs being changed. I know I got off topic there but the out-of-placeness of the RiD Animal Decepticons always bugged me, so I always wanted to give them a proper explanation on why they are like that, and the Breast Force really fit the bill, given that they are Animal themed Decepticons who still oddly turn into vehicles.

  • @theofficialstarscreamchann2528
    @theofficialstarscreamchann2528 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so happy this is my favorite combiner

  • @bsybilly
    @bsybilly ปีที่แล้ว

    I really do hope that there will be either Legacy line or MPG release of Lio Kaiser soon...

  • @sivanlevi3867
    @sivanlevi3867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm gonna include these Decepticons with a new team name and some new names for the characters, along with new roles in my Transformers fanfiction.

  • @Chaos-Zakai64
    @Chaos-Zakai64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like "Shield Force" as a possible Western name for the Liokaiser team.
    The inspiration came from Power Rangers. Any kind of chest armor a ranger might have tends to be called shields by Power Ranger fans.
    So "Shield Force" "Shield Animals" Just replace all uses of "breast" with "Shield".
    Unless "Shield Force" sounds more like an Autobot team name.

  • @chrisneustaedter6788
    @chrisneustaedter6788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video about characters I've never heard before. But I kind of wish the next video would be about an Autobot again.

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 ปีที่แล้ว

    "So these guys are a combiner team with targetmasters who combine with them like powermasters? Wow! Bet they have a really cool name.."
    "Errrr...."

  • @Rojixus
    @Rojixus ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this the day after my birthday!

  • @chihiro_simp2716
    @chihiro_simp2716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the next combiner was going to
    Menasor because breakdown was announced recently however, I really liked this episode

  • @BrodyW2012
    @BrodyW2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine going up to someone and saying "my favorite combiner team is the Breastforce"

  • @ghidotheone
    @ghidotheone ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The Japanese language has always preferred to use the word “breast” when using an English word for chest, and it’s never in reference to female anatomy. They did that because “chest” is very similar in pronunciation to an actual Japanese word, and that would be too confusing for the audience.
    But people can’t help but immediately associate it with boobs when it comes over here, despite the fact that terms like breastplate are still in our vocabulary. It’s not some crazy terrible word. They didn’t go around calling themselves the “boob patrol.”

    • @nexthegamer7221
      @nexthegamer7221 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn't, but now that you've said this I shall never refer to them as anything other than the Boob Patrol

    • @reyonXIII
      @reyonXIII ปีที่แล้ว +16

      As an ESL tutor to Japanese people, this is why I tell my students to NEVER use Japanese English in actual English, to assume that almost all of these terms are incorrect, since, as shown with "breast" instead of "chest", either pronunciation or use are indeed incorrect. There are a few exceptions, like "anime" and "salaryman", but that's coz those terms are a culture unto their own.
      Though, I don't tell them to not use such in their own language, coz it's fine and ultimately harmless, with the sole exception of "mania", meaning what we would call "geek".

    • @misterpreposterous5771
      @misterpreposterous5771 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can defend penchant of the Japanese to use cool-sounding (in their opinion) English words semi-randomly in their media, but no matter how you slice it, "Breastforce" is a silly name. Even if you skip the mammaries connotation, the next most popular one refers to meat cut from poultry.
      If Hasbro has any serious plans to incorporate Japanese media to Transformers in the west, they need to hire someone talented to rewrite 80% of names so they don't stick out like a sore thumb. The recently announced Velocitron "Galaxy Shuttle" is one of those cases in dire need of a new name.

    • @geraldsyta6890
      @geraldsyta6890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Breastplate..... Wow u have a point there

    • @itsahostiletakeover
      @itsahostiletakeover ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No one is saying it ISN'T a silly name, but to seemingly treat it as taboo in 2022 is a bit strange. I started to mess with Chris on Patreon a few days ago and tell him his aversion to saying the team name perhaps says more about him than anything since men and birds technically have breasts as well 😅 But your response is far better!