I think it makes sense that the one thrown in the furnace was a replica. Yoda’s saber was probably an icon for the Jedi, also it would show people that Yoda was “killed”
Maybe not even a replica, but just a second lightsaber of Yoda. I'm sure the lightsabers they burnt weren't just the ones directly taken from the dead Jedi, but also every spare lightsaber they found in the temple. Additionally it is known that Yoda did have more than one lightsaber.
If you look closely, the Saber thrown in the furnace has a round pommel which Yodas certainly did not have so either its a replica or someone else s Saber but i can 100% tell you what we see is not yodas real lightsaber at least its not the one we see in the movies, so there is no continuity issue at all
In a later comic, age of the rebellion, it hints that Yoda recrafts his lightsaber on Degabah and was possible for him to find kyber crystals there. Most likely he had it with him when he died and luke brought it with him.
Isn’t it possible that Palpatine kept Yoda’s saber as a trophy, gave Mas Ammeda a fake one to destroy to symbolically show the galaxy that all the Jedi, including Yoda, were dead/traitors, and Luke recovered it after the fall of the Empire?
Ah, found it. It was on the Wookipedia article for Yoda's Lightsaber. It said this and has annotations "The 2016 reference book Star Wars: Complete Locations depicts the lightsaber as being stored in a box in Yoda's Hut by the time of the events of Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back.[12] However, the 2017 comic Darth Vader (2017) 1 states that it was destroyed during a celebration of the eradication of the Jedi Order.[4] When asked about this, writer Charles Soule mused that perhaps Yoda built a new one, that he had more than one or that Darth Sidious built a fake to make a point.[17] Lucasfilm Story Group's Matt Martin then stated that they are aware of that but that it isn't an error as Yoda likely had more than a few lightsabers during his lifetime.[18] The discrepancy was solved in The Book of Boba Fett episode "Chapter 6: From the Desert Comes a Stranger" with Yoda having another lightsaber in his possession.[15]"
Perhaps that's Yoda's lightsaber while he was a Jedi Knight and before becoming Grand Master Jedi. When a Jedi becomes a master, they reconstruct a new one, just like how Obi Wan built his ROTS/ANH lightsaber when he became a master and no longer using his Jedi Padawan/Knight lightsaber.
@UCW1fA9ovt5ic45DkerMJg8g He was a Padawan in TPM under Qui-Gon Jinn. His victory over Maul awarded him his official Jedi knighthood, and when Anakin was awarded his, that was enough to make Obi-Wan a Jedi Master. Edit: Anakin was awarded knighthood some time between AOTC and ROTS.
They don’t, actually. A Jedi can always modify their saber. But when you become a master, you gain the privilege of using electrum on your saber. Mace Windu took advantage of this. Making a new saber just wouldn’t make sense.
Dagobah was a former Sith Nexus, so it's totally possible for him to find a new kyber crystal there. It's also not impossible for him to build a lightsaber hilt out of the parts of the ship he went there in.
@@TheHighGroundItself There's also a comic of Starkiller going to Dagobah and simply being there made him feel paranoid and panicked. When he met Yoda at the front of the cave he was stunned because he couldn't believe a small creature like Yoda could sit near such an evil place drenched in the Dark Side, after leaving the cave he saw Yoda again sitting there ever so still and unfazed by the dark side emanating from the cave. He was so scared of not only the cave but Yoda he started running back to his ship looking behind his shoulder because he thought Yoda was chasing him. Yoda and that cave have history :'D
I don't know how so many aren't thinking of this possibility. How hard would it have been for Yoda to make a lightsaber from memory alone if he finds a kyber crystal?
The writer of this episode came out on social media talking about this! He said that yoda definitely lost his saber in ROTS but the saber that Luke has is a spare/new one yoda had. Explaining that since yoda was 900 years old, he may have made/gone through quite a few sabers in his lifetime.
@@theomazingomar357 if he needed the saber to survive Dagobah, he wouldnt have gone there in the First Place To live out his life in Exile. Yoda could theoretically pull a fucking Star Destroyer out of Orbit and onto a planet if he so wished, so he had no need for his Lightsaber simply to survive. every jedi, ESPECIALLY over 200 years earlier, were all trained to survive without their lightsaber. that is how they learnt to effectively utilize their Force Powers in Combat and other scenarios. the deadliest Jedi Warrior is the one that can fight as effetively WITH his lightsaber as WITHOUT it. and if you let him use both his powers AND his saber, you'r dead, regardless. one of my Fan stories, that is a Work in Progress, has a character trained by Yaddle, and that later on trained with Mace Windu after Yaddle was murdered by Count Dooku. he wasd trained specifically during the Clone Wars to fight and kill Count Dooku in 3 moves only. his entire Lightsaber Style is one he made himself with the help of Mace Windu and Yoda, and it utilizes a MASSIVE ammount of Force Powers in battle at the same time with his Lightsaber. i based the design of his Fighting Style on Form 2 and Form 7 combined into one INCREDIBLY dangerous style for whoever faces a master of it. i have yet to find a name for it sadly. the Character's name btw, is Caistus Mhaar.
@@lukew6725 Yoda was a Jedi Grand Master, the lightsaber is a sacred weapon for a Jedi and it's totally believable he would have built another one during his exile on Degobah.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that Yoda, grand master of the Jedi order, would forego everything he’s warned anyone about attachment and father a child with Yaddle. Grogu is likely a random member of Yoda’s species, nothing more
Maybe but seeing as there were only 2 known members of Yodas species it does make sense that it could be a loop hole in that rule to continue the species... I feel like I've read that another jedi master was able to do so for similar reasons
and even then, its really predictable and disappointing to say he was just yoda's son, not every force sensitive character has to be the child of some other important character
@@jacobsplaces i agree, i'd much rather have it be like Yoda may have looked after the child at some stage but it ultimately isnt his, maybe he secretly knew about a few more members of his species?
I just assumed Yoda made a new lightsaber in exile. He just never put himself in a situation where he needs to draw it. Luke found it in his hut. I don't think it's a big deal.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
Obviously he is going to grow into it, lots more training he has to go through to balance himself and connect more with The Force before he even reaches the stage to learn of the Jedi arts.
Here's a theory: Yoda collected his saber after the fight. What was thrown into the fire was just a replica to make everyone think they actually got it. I know it isn't likely, but I guess it's something.
I just assumed that the one Thrown into the furnace could have just been a replica commissioned by Palpatine, who kept the real one as a trophy in secret. Luke or someone from the rebellion or new republic could have recovered it from Palpatine’s room on coruscant. To me that’s the simplest explanation that keeps everything canon and it’s really not a big stretch of the imagination at all and I think it’s within palpatines character to keep a select few lightsabers of certain jedi in secret.
That makes no sense and Palpatine would never do that. He wanted everything related to the Jedi purged so keeping his lightsaber would go against his own ideals.
This is literally everything the sequels should’ve been. By the end of Episode 6, Luke was established as wise and focused, keen on reforming the Jedi, protecting the ones he loved, and staying encouraged. In this short appearance, it perfectly captures that, something the sequels never managed to capture…
@@Darkness1984 Here’s my take; if it was some random Jedi, then I agree, he’d be a good character as it shows a truly tragic story of a Force-sensitive person losing hope in everything. But this isn’t some random Jedi, this is Luke freaking Skywalker. Prior to his appearances in the sequels, Luke was established as a hero and a symbol of hope across the galaxy. And if you have an established character, you can’t just say “oh, he changed, that’s why he became a hopeless hermit”. In movies, it doesn’t work that way, if you want your character to change, you have to SHOW that; not tell, not hint, you have to SHOW, and not just show, but also giving a good reason why he changed. Unfortunately, none of this was done very well at all, his change is inorganic, and that’s why people hate it. Not because he just changed, because it was just overall poorly made. Maybe next time you should actually *plan* out your trilogy (meanwhile you have the MCU that spent 10+ years planning out their entire series) and learn about what “proper writing” is in movies. There’s a reason why people and even the cast (Hamill, Boyega, and Ridley warned us) don’t like the sequels lol
Please don’t let Grogu be Yoda’s son, why does everybody of importance have to be the son of somebody important, also couldn’t he have just brought it towards him using the force..
I did a rewatch of revenge of the sith, and when Yoda jumps down into Bale Organa's speeder, there's a couple of frames as he's sitting down that you can actually see his lightsaber on his belt. So all of us thinking that he lost his saber, was just because we didn't pay enough attention when we originally watched the movie.
Personally I really don't think Grogu is Yoda and Yadle's son. I just think it would be strangely convenient to say that the only 3 people we've seen of this species and ALSO all related. Also I just find it unlikely that Yoda would break the Jedi code and have a son, he seemed to be the most devoted to those rules
@Foehammer Do the math, we've seen a male and a female and a child of a species that live for over 800 years. There's only three of them and they're all force sensitive. It's not strangely convenient, it makes sense.
I may very well be mistaken but, I'm pretty sure one of the writers for the show tweeted that this ISN'T the saber from EPIII, instead it's just one of the many Yoda had made BEFORE. 900+ years as a Jedi, Yoda might very well have made and used half a dozen over his years, the one lost and later destroyed was most likely his (war saber?) blade with the crystal best used for war?
@@ofthamist Agreed. I mean, how many hammers does a person have in their house. I would love to see a Force ghost where Luke asks Yoda for help or wisdom on training Grogu. Yoda sees the saber. "My saber you have. I see training him with it you are. Build many have I, better-suited saber for him I know of. Tell you where it is, I will." Then they go on a quest to find Yoda's "older" sabers from when he was smaller like Grogu. Problem solved.
Even if it was meant to be the OG Yoda blade, how in the heck would Luke have gotten it? That comic clip indicated he didn't have it with him on Degobah, so it's not like he collected it after Yoda died in his belongings. You think Luke would go on a grand adventure to seek it out after seeing him be so lazy as to have droids build him a rock temple?
The lightsaber that was destroyed was the one he lost during his fight with Palpatine. I don’t see any reason Yoda couldn’t have construed a new one in 20 years. He could have already had a kyber crystal with him, known where to get one on his way to Dagobah or acquired one after
@@Zqppy yea I jumped the gun a bit. More likely he grabbed the lightsaber and the one thrown in the furnace is a spare he had at the Jedi Temple that was confiscated after Order 66
@@williamflowers9435 Probably the other way around. The one thrown in the furnace is his saber from ROTS. The one from TBOBF is a spare that he probably used earlier in his life.
This is interesting stuff, I have read those comics as well, but Lucasfilm came out a few days ago explaining this saying Yoda would have created multiple lightsabers, especially at his age. Which I also find acceptable. He could have had one in his hut on Dagobah. Either way doesn't really bother me, Filoni>>> comics.
Hey Star Wars Theorie, here is my theory on how Luke got the lightsaber: i own a German Star Wars book named "Star Wars Schauplätze und Planeten" in wich you can see Yoda's hut on Dagobah. In the corner of the hut you can actually spot a small box with Yoda's keepsakes, old texts and his lightsaber in it. I think Yoda had another Lightsaber that he kept but never used or showed to anyone. After his death, luke probably found it and kept it until now. I would really like to know what you think about this theory. Thank you for the amazing videos.
Yes but in this video his theory is that that saber that was kept on Dagobah is the same one that he dropped and picked up originally in Revenge of the Sith.
@@Amplifymagic yeah he could, as he said, have picked it up when he dropped down in the senate building or it is a different lightsaber - Mas Amedda could have burned his primary one and he probybably just had a replacement for it. Im not sure if/why the scratches are the same on both lightsabers but it could also be an editing mistake or sth.
Yoda definitely isn’t grogus father. Just the same species. Thatd be like me assuming Ashoka is Shak tis daughter because they’re same species and force sensitive.
Honestly do the math. We've only seem three of a species that lives for nearly 1000 years. A male, a female and a child. All of them are force sensitive...
@@jordanhenry6478 That doesn't mean that they are the only ones that exist, it is quite possible that there are other members of their species out there but we haven't seen them
Damn good catch seeing Yoda’s lightsaber on his hip when Bail rescued him!! The one thrown in the furnace is likely a spare he kept at the Jedi Temple that was confiscated after Order 66
This makes sense. Specially the theory about comics not really being cannon when it’s convenient. However I felt that leaving his lightsaber behind also sold better the idea that Yoda might actually be dead; thus also making the idea that the empire would stop putting resources into finding him, more legit.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
They never literally say in the comic that it's yoda's lightsaber. it could just be that some other jedi who also had small hands made one that looked like it because he want it to be inspired by the grand masters lightsaber. And maybe they mistook this for yoda's lightsaber then, believing they destroyed it.
Word around is that it could simply be 1 of many lightsabers Yoda had through his life. The one he took with him into exile, perhaps. As for the scratches being in the same place, Yoda does have pretty strong claws. And if his technique was refined and unchanged for a few sabers, he may just leave similar scratch patters on all his sabers.
There are three options 1. It was Yoda's other spare one. 2. It was a replica only for the the public and Palpatine kept the original as a trophy. 3. This is just another instance of a canonical mistake and we Star Wars fans are going to find some random and/or convoluted explanation to sleep well at night.
I know this there that it is Yoda's son doesn't add up. It would like assuming that every human youngling is Obi-Wan's kid because they are the same species.
I feel it's one of his lightsabers. Through a Jedi's life there are situations and scenarios where they do end up losing their lightsaber and have to refurbish anyone happens all the time looking clone wars and also attack of the clones where Anakin had his sliced in half by machine comes to show everybody that the one he gets after that one is the lightsaber you see and all the other movies that is Luke's and eventually Ray's lightsaber. I know there's a comic where he explains or he never refurbishes one.
The actual writer of the comic explained that Yoda did have multiple Lightsabers. Maybe he stopped using one after order 66 but he still had a few stowed away, like the one he kept in a box that Luke is now in possession of
Haha! I literally fall asleep to your videos (in a good way!). And after watching Boba Fett and going to sleep, I put exactly that video of yours on where the sabers got burned up, so I could fall asleep to some storytelling. I had already seen that video of yours, but right as I started to drift asleep I went: "Wait hold up!" I was debating writing a comment about it in your newest video but decided against it. Didn't feel right to comment something that has nothing to do with the video.
I hope so, because honestly I think the idea of a choice was kinda stupid. Coming from the guy who, in Legends, marries a Sith assassin, has kids, and allows a Dark Force user into his academy (Kyle Katarn) it rings a bit hollow. Even in cannon his attachment to his father is what allowed him to redeem Anakin in the end. Luke is supposed to see through the dogmatic rules of the previous Jedi Order and found a new one that is less steeped in ancient rules and traditions and instead listens more to the will of the force. I guess all that got washed away with the blue titty milk though....
@@Nostradevus1I'm with you on this. I hope Luke founds his new academy without that dogmatic "no attachments" rule. He would have eventually learned how that rule failed the Jedi Order.
I don’t see it as a retcon, Yoda just built a new one while in exile. I would think a Grand Master either would have several(like the emperor had) or at least more then 1 crystal. Like Luke just because he won’t use one, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have. Whatever the thoughts I agree, screen trumps comic books.
Yoda could have many lightsabers in his quarters at the jedi temple. After the Jedi temple raid, Mas Ameda could have taken one of these spare lighsabers.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
We know Jedis that had multiple sabers. Considering how long Yoda lives, no wonder he had a backup somewhere. Either that or they burned a different lightsaber, just a similar one to Yodas. I think thats the best retcon imo
@Star Wars Theory: If Baby Yoda is the son of master Yoda won’t that make him the BIGGEST hypocrite of the Jedi order since they weren’t allowed to have a family etc?
Grogu is probably going to be the first Mandalorian jedi since Taar Visla. I think that would be a neat direction to take him as he has a strong attachment to Mando and is also force sensitive. (Not to mention Mando has THE dark saber, which was pretty important in Visla's story) As for the retcon, I bet it's a good story, for another time.
If they ignore or retcon the comics (which generally speaking are great and worth reading), why even bother making them if the writers/directors of movies and tv shows don't even care?
That is the million-credit question. I remember that the old expanded universe occasionally had stories that contradicted each other in small ways, but they always took such care not to contradict the movies (and if there were any live action tv series in those days, they presumably would have taken care not to contradict them either) which is why Anakin never fought Dooku throughout the clone war and Obi-Wan never met Grievous.
My personal head canon to deal with this, the thing that mas ameda threw into the fire was not actually Yoda’s saber, instead it was a fake hilt that they put together for political grandstanding
Vader held Anakin’s lightsaber at the time (Palpatine made it very clear that this was the saber of another and not his own anymore in that issue) likewise the saber of the dead no longer held an owner, it would be claiming that which had no counter, like picking up a rock from the side of the road. It’s the same reason why on his quest when he went to some kind of information repository that held many lightsabers in storage and even used one for a moment, he discarded it and continued on his quest. He had to take a lightsaber FROM a living Jedi, prove himself the superior to claim it. And then corrupt the crystal. Anything less would be unworthy of a Sith Lord.
@@Red-zh7vq I didn’t write it I’m just relaying it but for the record it was good story, the first arc on Charles Soule’s run in Darth Vader (issues 1-6 I think but I could be a little off on the length)
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He made a second lightsaber, which was also in the comics. Made it look like he re-assembled it from other lightsabers. That was the one found on Dagobah, which Luke tried to give to Grogu
So Luke is showing him the lightsaber and telling him about Yoda. Do you really think that if Yoda really was Grogu’s father, Luke would withhold that information? Luke has been on the other end of that lie by omission, so I don’t think he’d make that same mistake.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
I would really hate it if Grogu was Yoda's son as that would make him a massive hypocrite for telling Anakin to forgo his attachments when he kept his hidden for however long. I think Grogu is just another member of the species that is particularly force sensitive that may near extinction so to keep that tradition alive, Grogu had to be trained.
@@alexbirchall3658 I would also hate if Yoda and Yaddle were Grogu's parents, but not for the reason you have. It would just be kinda lame af, not everyone has to be related, you know ?
There was a Twitter comment from one of the creative leads on this exact subject and apparently he was saying that it's not impossible for Yoda to have multiple lightsaber over his long long life so it's not the same lightsaber that was destroyed at the Jedi Temple it's just an extra that Yoda had
For me yoda always had his saber. And part of that for me because of the yoda hut and xwing Lego set where it came with his saber and it could be kept under his bed pad. And I thought it was always just understood that Luke then took the saber after that. For me when it comes to the comic, maybe it was just an extra saber of yoda’s and not his main saber.
There is no consistency in Diz-canon. He had his lightsaber when he escaped. It is even in the novel. Shows simply that Disney doesn't care about consistency, only convenience. That Episode with Luke also wasn't right. Luke saw attachment as something that could be allowed if controlled. So this new canon with its INFINITE problems have turned me off of their Attempts at Star Wars. I watched BoBF out of curiosity. And see all the lore problems and such. It's unforgivable in my eyes. If you enjoy it, awesome. But I cannot see it as anything more than attempts of corporate fan fiction. They call it Canon, I call it crap. Good video SW Theory.
@@realJoeMavro They had more than little inconsistencies. Old EU had pretty glaring ones. The one that always stands out to me is the physical description of Ganner Rhysode. Check out his wookiepedia article for more on what I mean. Also, Splinter of the Mind's eye has like zero continuity with anything. It was basically Lucas' backup script in case he couldn't afford to make Empire the way he wanted... so even though it was the first EU title, it goes down a very different path than the actual narrative of the saga and Legends/EU.
There is though? In addition to the fact that Yoda probably had multiple lightsabers, Complete Locations established that his lightsaber was stored, within his hut, within 2015.
@@terrygeer3089 The big one for me was Labyrinth of Evil. At one point in the book, Dooku is reminiscing about what "a delight" Grievous was to train and what a quick learner he was, while in a later chapter, Dooku is thinking about how predictable Grievous' moves are and how "hopeless" he is. It's like those two chapters were each written by a different writer with a different idea of how Dooku and Grievous' relationship should be. Actually, the final season of Tartakovsky's Clone Wars seems to take some inspiration from Labyrinth of Evil, despite there being some crucial differences, particularly the invasion of Coruscant. Labyrinth of Evil references certain events that happen in Tartakovsky's Clone Wars, but after Labyrinth of Evil, I don't think they're meant to be the in same continuity.
What if the lightsaber he thrown in didn't belong to Yoda. It was in fact Grogu's original lightsaber designed for him, without the knowledge of his existence they mistook it for Yoda's.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
@@Vandicoup in that comic Yoda says he will never wiel a lightsaber again and he uses some pices that resembles a lightsaber to make a bow, because he was tired of just vegetable for diner.
Found this out from Rosie Knight on the X-Ray vision podcast, but in the Star wars Age of Rebellion special #1, the trial of dagobah, Yoda rebuilt his lightsaber. So no, nothing was retconned
Yoda might have built a new one just in case he would have needed it. I found this comments made by Chares Soule "Yoda built a new one or that he had more than one or that Darth Sidious built a fake to make a point." and this one by the Lucasfilm story group "Yoda likely had more than a few lightsabers during his lifetime" Although neither is certain it gives us many possibilities.
@@joeyladd8841 Palpatine might have kept it also and burned a fake onw, so he could keep the real as a trophy from one of his greatest accomplishments.
@@joeyladd8841 I also just saw a comment that in another cannon book that Yoda rebuilt his lightsaber. I looked it up and there are the comments I added into my comment.
Or what if the saber survived the explosion. Maybe it was even made from beskar itself, it would be a nice connection to Grogu if he creates his own saber with the same material. Well maybe the metal itself is not only connected to mandalorians, but yoda species as well and through the force the foundling was united with mandalorians not without a reason. I mean beskar can resist a lightsaber, the most powerful weapon powered by the force.
He probably will. It's useful for a Jedi who's just starting out to have a lightsaber to learn with, but building your own is an important rite of passage.
Just before Yoda drops into senator organa‘a speeder, you see his communicator clearly on his belt at the front of his body (time stamp is 1:56:34 on Disney+). But when he drops into the appended what we’re all seeing is an item on his belt toward the back of his body. So I’d say it would indeed be his lightsaber. Then again, at 1:56:38 as he’s leaping into the air you can clearly see the side of his body and only the communicator is visible.
Well, again, if it's in the comics it's not necessarily canon after all. Or maybe Ben is engaging in wishful thinking. OR... perhaps he's not counting Grogu because Grogu was part of the old Jedi Order long before Luke.
Maybe it wasn’t Yoda’s lightsaber, it is possible that Yaddle or another Jedi had a similar looking one. After all General Grevious had lightsabers that looked like Anakin and Obi Wan’s.
That has nothing to do with in universe canon. That entirely had to do with mistakes with prop placement. You see it with the duel of Obi-Wan and Anakin. Anakin is holding Obi-Wans lightsaber, then Obi-Wan is holding Anakins. It’s kinda funny.
I’m hoping it’s just a way for Luke to know Grogu is grasping the severity of the situation. I would be bummed if he gets sent back to Mando without that saber! Lol
Ehhhhh... They never said it was the same lightsaber. Plus, Soule, and other Lucasfilm staff, have stated he likely had multiple sabers, or built another one later on. It was notable, to some of us, but really not a big deal even if it is a retcon.
the furnus probably burnt off the rubber on the hilt on the bottom and it survived and luke went and got the hilt later after the fall of the empire. as we know luke was after jedi artifacts after ROTJ
thank you! the second part about Yoda swearing to never wield a lightsaber ever again, was something i immediately thought of thanks to your vids. [also im gonna be honest, I'm alright with it cause Yoda swear off the lightsaber hurt like hell, i could understand it but it still hurt like hell.
I can’t get behind the theory that grogu is yoda’s son because yoda surely wouldn’t leave him behind at the Jedi temple during order 66 and live out his days in dagobah without even attempting to look for him
You are wise, my friend. And I agree! Since I haven't read the books and comics anyway, I have no qualms whatsoever with Luke handing Yoda's Lightsaber to Grogu.
I actually think it's possible it's the same one, just repaired by Luke after everything that happened to it. I mean the lightsabers were all made from different metals, so it could have been lucky enough.🤔
You just know Disney can’t resist showing an entire planet full of yoda species. That’s definitely gonna happen in Mando, dunno what season. But Mark my words. It’s too marketable.
Okay real quick is no one going to point out that the saber in the comic doesn’t match the saber in the book of boba? The saber in the comic has a ball on the bottom while the saber in the show does not, it’s clear to see and if I remember correctly it was never stated to be yoda’s all Vader said was that he could have been given yoda’s not that that one was it
The one thing people are forgetting is that Jedi especially a grandmaster like Yoda, can summon their lightsabers back to them. At any point off camera he could have recollected his lightsaber with the force. Thanks for explaining a bit more about this. For all the noobs to star wars
Something I don’t think many people have noticed: The lightsaber that got burned in the comic has a difference to Yoda’s: a ball at the end of the hilt. It’s nothing compared to the rest of the lightsaber that’s just identical to Yoda’s, but let’s not forget that in Episode III, one of Grievous’s lightsaber was the same as Anakin’s but in green. So who knows, this might be another use of that same placeholding technique, hence the now “retcon” of Yoda’s saber being burned with the rest
Maybe you haven't heard, but when Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney, Disney destroyed all of the cannon except for the live-action movies. Really a brilliant move to pay 9 billion dollars for a franchise and then wipe out 85% of it don't you think?
@@Kip450 why are you asking me? I'm the one who said so. Apparently you need to ask the uploader. And by the way, Where were you in 1977? I was sitting in a movie theatre.
I think it makes sense that the one thrown in the furnace was a replica. Yoda’s saber was probably an icon for the Jedi, also it would show people that Yoda was “killed”
My thoughts exactly. Plus, Palpatine would likely like to keep it as a trophy.
Maybe not even a replica, but just a second lightsaber of Yoda. I'm sure the lightsabers they burnt weren't just the ones directly taken from the dead Jedi, but also every spare lightsaber they found in the temple. Additionally it is known that Yoda did have more than one lightsaber.
You're saying a fascist regime would LIE about the leader's political enemies?! Surely not...
If you look closely, the Saber thrown in the furnace has a round pommel which Yodas certainly did not have so either its a replica or someone else s Saber but i can 100% tell you what we see is not yodas real lightsaber at least its not the one we see in the movies, so there is no continuity issue at all
@@thomasfryer5706 Palpatine didn't like lightsabers that much
In a later comic, age of the rebellion, it hints that Yoda recrafts his lightsaber on Degabah and was possible for him to find kyber crystals there. Most likely he had it with him when he died and luke brought it with him.
I commented this on one of his videos he mentioned this being a retconned also. You think he’d notice that
Yeah idk why he made this vid book of boba fett is perfect.
In From A Certain Point of View, Yoda mentions missing his Saber. So he did not have it on Dagobah during Ep 4.
@@bill9068 i wouldnt say that, BOBF has many flaws and many great things about it. The Mandolorian wasn’t a perfect show either, it had flaws aswell.
@@grantslater861 new episode was amazing compared to the other shit Disney has gave us. That's what I'm trying to say it's perfect in my opinion.
Isn’t it possible that Palpatine kept Yoda’s saber as a trophy, gave Mas Ammeda a fake one to destroy to symbolically show the galaxy that all the Jedi, including Yoda, were dead/traitors, and Luke recovered it after the fall of the Empire?
I like this theory
i like this but no chance they ever explain it to this detail
I read this somewhere, but I can't find the source right now.
On the other hand, why should a live action story be shackled by a comic book, less than 1% of the total fan base has actually read.
Ah, found it. It was on the Wookipedia article for Yoda's Lightsaber. It said this and has annotations
"The 2016 reference book Star Wars: Complete Locations depicts the lightsaber as being stored in a box in Yoda's Hut by the time of the events of Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back.[12] However, the 2017 comic Darth Vader (2017) 1 states that it was destroyed during a celebration of the eradication of the Jedi Order.[4] When asked about this, writer Charles Soule mused that perhaps Yoda built a new one, that he had more than one or that Darth Sidious built a fake to make a point.[17] Lucasfilm Story Group's Matt Martin then stated that they are aware of that but that it isn't an error as Yoda likely had more than a few lightsabers during his lifetime.[18] The discrepancy was solved in The Book of Boba Fett episode "Chapter 6: From the Desert Comes a Stranger" with Yoda having another lightsaber in his possession.[15]"
Perhaps that's Yoda's lightsaber while he was a Jedi Knight and before becoming Grand Master Jedi. When a Jedi becomes a master, they reconstruct a new one, just like how Obi Wan built his ROTS/ANH lightsaber when he became a master and no longer using his Jedi Padawan/Knight lightsaber.
Obi Wan lost his Lightsaber in the fight against Maul if I am not mistaken, thats why he grabs Qui Gons Saber or am I missing something
@@thehiddenone2875 True, but he didn't become a Jedi Master until after AOTC.
He had no choice in that one, tho i feel it.
@UCW1fA9ovt5ic45DkerMJg8g He was a Padawan in TPM under Qui-Gon Jinn. His victory over Maul awarded him his official Jedi knighthood, and when Anakin was awarded his, that was enough to make Obi-Wan a Jedi Master.
Edit: Anakin was awarded knighthood some time between AOTC and ROTS.
They don’t, actually. A Jedi can always modify their saber. But when you become a master, you gain the privilege of using electrum on your saber. Mace Windu took advantage of this. Making a new saber just wouldn’t make sense.
Dagobah was a former Sith Nexus, so it's totally possible for him to find a new kyber crystal there. It's also not impossible for him to build a lightsaber hilt out of the parts of the ship he went there in.
Interesting
I honestly forgot that Yoda said that fck I almost forgot the cave scene
@@TheHighGroundItself There's also a comic of Starkiller going to Dagobah and simply being there made him feel paranoid and panicked. When he met Yoda at the front of the cave he was stunned because he couldn't believe a small creature like Yoda could sit near such an evil place drenched in the Dark Side, after leaving the cave he saw Yoda again sitting there ever so still and unfazed by the dark side emanating from the cave. He was so scared of not only the cave but Yoda he started running back to his ship looking behind his shoulder because he thought Yoda was chasing him. Yoda and that cave have history :'D
I don't know how so many aren't thinking of this possibility. How hard would it have been for Yoda to make a lightsaber from memory alone if he finds a kyber crystal?
@@hillogical yoda was a jedi grand master and obi wan keeped books in his house on how to make a lightsaber so yoda probably had a similar book
The writer of this episode came out on social media talking about this!
He said that yoda definitely lost his saber in ROTS but the saber that Luke has is a spare/new one yoda had. Explaining that since yoda was 900 years old, he may have made/gone through quite a few sabers in his lifetime.
That was the writer of a comic where the lightsaber popped up 3 years ago
That's BS! There is absolutely no reason for Yoda to make another lightsaber after ROTS!
@@lukew6725 survival on dagobah
@@theomazingomar357 if he needed the saber to survive Dagobah, he wouldnt have gone there in the First Place To live out his life in Exile. Yoda could theoretically pull a fucking Star Destroyer out of Orbit and onto a planet if he so wished, so he had no need for his Lightsaber simply to survive. every jedi, ESPECIALLY over 200 years earlier, were all trained to survive without their lightsaber. that is how they learnt to effectively utilize their Force Powers in Combat and other scenarios. the deadliest Jedi Warrior is the one that can fight as effetively WITH his lightsaber as WITHOUT it. and if you let him use both his powers AND his saber, you'r dead, regardless.
one of my Fan stories, that is a Work in Progress, has a character trained by Yaddle, and that later on trained with Mace Windu after Yaddle was murdered by Count Dooku. he wasd trained specifically during the Clone Wars to fight and kill Count Dooku in 3 moves only. his entire Lightsaber Style is one he made himself with the help of Mace Windu and Yoda, and it utilizes a MASSIVE ammount of Force Powers in battle at the same time with his Lightsaber. i based the design of his Fighting Style on Form 2 and Form 7 combined into one INCREDIBLY dangerous style for whoever faces a master of it. i have yet to find a name for it sadly.
the Character's name btw, is Caistus Mhaar.
@@lukew6725 Yoda was a Jedi Grand Master, the lightsaber is a sacred weapon for a Jedi and it's totally believable he would have built another one during his exile on Degobah.
I find it incredibly hard to believe that Yoda, grand master of the Jedi order, would forego everything he’s warned anyone about attachment and father a child with Yaddle. Grogu is likely a random member of Yoda’s species, nothing more
Unless its a ki-adi mundi situation and yoda has to have children as a way to preserve his species
Maybe but seeing as there were only 2 known members of Yodas species it does make sense that it could be a loop hole in that rule to continue the species... I feel like I've read that another jedi master was able to do so for similar reasons
and even then, its really predictable and disappointing to say he was just yoda's son, not every force sensitive character has to be the child of some other important character
@@jacobsplaces i agree, i'd much rather have it be like Yoda may have looked after the child at some stage but it ultimately isnt his, maybe he secretly knew about a few more members of his species?
@Justin Gary …You said this already in another comment section. Now I’m suspicious of you… 😕
I just assumed Yoda made a new lightsaber in exile. He just never put himself in a situation where he needs to draw it. Luke found it in his hut. I don't think it's a big deal.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
The problem is that even Yoda's Saber is too freaking big for Grogu's little hands.
For now it is a symbolic choice chose the path of the Jedi or the path of the Mandalorian.
Size matters not
@@koronaples6537 excellent reply
Obviously he is going to grow into it, lots more training he has to go through to balance himself and connect more with The Force before he even reaches the stage to learn of the Jedi arts.
@Hate Myself so does your mom
Here's a theory: Yoda collected his saber after the fight. What was thrown into the fire was just a replica to make everyone think they actually got it. I know it isn't likely, but I guess it's something.
Yupppp plausible
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You are correct. You can see his lightsaber briefly when he jumps into Organa's speeder.
What if he had multiple lightsabers?
I just assumed that the one Thrown into the furnace could have just been a replica commissioned by Palpatine, who kept the real one as a trophy in secret. Luke or someone from the rebellion or new republic could have recovered it from Palpatine’s room on coruscant. To me that’s the simplest explanation that keeps everything canon and it’s really not a big stretch of the imagination at all and I think it’s within palpatines character to keep a select few lightsabers of certain jedi in secret.
That's a fair assessment of Palpatine.
@@krismikewill facts. It sounds like something that twit, would do 😂
That's the best theory, I hope that gets real
It's also totally within his lying, scheming, evil politician's character to create a fake one for propaganda.
That makes no sense and Palpatine would never do that. He wanted everything related to the Jedi purged so keeping his lightsaber would go against his own ideals.
This is literally everything the sequels should’ve been. By the end of Episode 6, Luke was established as wise and focused, keen on reforming the Jedi, protecting the ones he loved, and staying encouraged. In this short appearance, it perfectly captures that, something the sequels never managed to capture…
Time Passes, things happen and people change. Thats life.
@@Darkness1984 Here’s my take; if it was some random Jedi, then I agree, he’d be a good character as it shows a truly tragic story of a Force-sensitive person losing hope in everything.
But this isn’t some random Jedi, this is Luke freaking Skywalker. Prior to his appearances in the sequels, Luke was established as a hero and a symbol of hope across the galaxy. And if you have an established character, you can’t just say “oh, he changed, that’s why he became a hopeless hermit”. In movies, it doesn’t work that way, if you want your character to change, you have to SHOW that; not tell, not hint, you have to SHOW, and not just show, but also giving a good reason why he changed. Unfortunately, none of this was done very well at all, his change is inorganic, and that’s why people hate it. Not because he just changed, because it was just overall poorly made.
Maybe next time you should actually *plan* out your trilogy (meanwhile you have the MCU that spent 10+ years planning out their entire series) and learn about what “proper writing” is in movies. There’s a reason why people and even the cast (Hamill, Boyega, and Ridley warned us) don’t like the sequels lol
@@Darkness1984
Stop defending awful writing bro. It’s unbecoming.
@@Darkness1984Naw it was just bad fan service
Please don’t let Grogu be Yoda’s son, why does everybody of importance have to be the son of somebody important, also couldn’t he have just brought it towards him using the force..
yea remember yaddle? Basically the other Jedi Master on the counsel that was a part of Yoda's species
Rey’s parents were nobodys.
@@Coleslaw693 reys dad was palpatine clone
@@Coleslaw693 yeah and so was her grandfather
Right? It makes the universe of Star Wars seem so small.
Yoda's species got their own rule of 2 lol. There has to be another little baby Yoda roaming around.
I did a rewatch of revenge of the sith, and when Yoda jumps down into Bale Organa's speeder, there's a couple of frames as he's sitting down that you can actually see his lightsaber on his belt. So all of us thinking that he lost his saber, was just because we didn't pay enough attention when we originally watched the movie.
did you even watch the video?
@@estam7264 actually i just looked up the scene and yes Yoda does still have his Light Saber
@@estam7264 comics aren't canon, the last we see of yodas lightsaber in canon is revenge of the sith
@@yako944 could be a fake lightsaber
are you sure it's not his walkie talkie that he uses to contact bail organa instead ?
Personally I really don't think Grogu is Yoda and Yadle's son. I just think it would be strangely convenient to say that the only 3 people we've seen of this species and ALSO all related. Also I just find it unlikely that Yoda would break the Jedi code and have a son, he seemed to be the most devoted to those rules
I don’t understand what you mean. And Kid Adi Mundi had to have kids to preserve his race. Could’ve been that situation
that is true sometimes the order allows them to repopulate if their species is going extinct
@Foehammer Do the math, we've seen a male and a female and a child of a species that live for over 800 years. There's only three of them and they're all force sensitive. It's not strangely convenient, it makes sense.
@@jordanhenry6478 right
Yeah it seems like a sort of fan fiction. I would go along with it if that's what it is but man I would be so disappointed. It seems so strange
I may very well be mistaken but, I'm pretty sure one of the writers for the show tweeted that this ISN'T the saber from EPIII, instead it's just one of the many Yoda had made BEFORE. 900+ years as a Jedi, Yoda might very well have made and used half a dozen over his years, the one lost and later destroyed was most likely his (war saber?) blade with the crystal best used for war?
Exactly what I was thinking lol he could have easily had more than one
@@ofthamist Agreed. I mean, how many hammers does a person have in their house. I would love to see a Force ghost where Luke asks Yoda for help or wisdom on training Grogu. Yoda sees the saber. "My saber you have. I see training him with it you are. Build many have I, better-suited saber for him I know of. Tell you where it is, I will." Then they go on a quest to find Yoda's "older" sabers from when he was smaller like Grogu. Problem solved.
@@zakwilson3268 "...Herrrmmm, my Father's Saber, you found..."
@@zakwilson3268 did you just seriously compare a lightsaber to a hammer? 😂 🤦♂️ .. you can’t just buy kyber crystals at your local Home Depot 😂
Even if it was meant to be the OG Yoda blade, how in the heck would Luke have gotten it? That comic clip indicated he didn't have it with him on Degobah, so it's not like he collected it after Yoda died in his belongings. You think Luke would go on a grand adventure to seek it out after seeing him be so lazy as to have droids build him a rock temple?
The lightsaber that was destroyed was the one he lost during his fight with Palpatine. I don’t see any reason Yoda couldn’t have construed a new one in 20 years. He could have already had a kyber crystal with him, known where to get one on his way to Dagobah or acquired one after
That doesn't explain the scratches
@@Zqppy yea I jumped the gun a bit. More likely he grabbed the lightsaber and the one thrown in the furnace is a spare he had at the Jedi Temple that was confiscated after Order 66
@@williamflowers9435 Probably the other way around. The one thrown in the furnace is his saber from ROTS. The one from TBOBF is a spare that he probably used earlier in his life.
This is interesting stuff, I have read those comics as well, but Lucasfilm came out a few days ago explaining this saying Yoda would have created multiple lightsabers, especially at his age. Which I also find acceptable. He could have had one in his hut on Dagobah. Either way doesn't really bother me, Filoni>>> comics.
How much you wanna bet Grogu gets flashbacks or hears Yodas voice when he holds the light saber
Easy answer. It was a replica made for political theater that was burned.
Agreed. They can easily retcon this "retcon" in a later issue making that very statement.
@Hate Myself tf you talking about?
Didn't Yoda grab his lightsaber before retreating?
@@DatKakashii I don’t think it’s apparent in the movie
I’m sure yoda had more than just 1 lightsaber anyhow, being as old as he was
bro i love the outro, sincerely the best star wars youtube outro
Hey Star Wars Theorie, here is my theory on how Luke got the lightsaber: i own a German Star Wars book named "Star Wars Schauplätze und Planeten" in wich you can see Yoda's hut on Dagobah. In the corner of the hut you can actually spot a small box with Yoda's keepsakes, old texts and his lightsaber in it. I think Yoda had another Lightsaber that he kept but never used or showed to anyone. After his death, luke probably found it and kept it until now. I would really like to know what you think about this theory. Thank you for the amazing videos.
Yes but in this video his theory is that that saber that was kept on Dagobah is the same one that he dropped and picked up originally in Revenge of the Sith.
The guy was around for almost 900 years… I’m sure he had a few spares lying around
In the jedi path book Yoda says he has only 1 lightsaber that he has used since he was a padawan! Carry a shoto i do !
@@Amplifymagic yeah he could, as he said, have picked it up when he dropped down in the senate building or it is a different lightsaber - Mas Amedda could have burned his primary one and he probybably just had a replacement for it. Im not sure if/why the scratches are the same on both lightsabers but it could also be an editing mistake or sth.
@@TheBaker64 yeah but the Ahsoka book differs from the clone wars finale. Some inconsistencies are there and movie/series trumps any book
your content has been poppin off lately
keep up the good work!
Yoda definitely isn’t grogus father. Just the same species. Thatd be like me assuming Ashoka is Shak tis daughter because they’re same species and force sensitive.
Do you happen to know that there are only 2 known individuals of Yoda's species besides Grogu? That isn't comparable to Ahsoka
Yoda has always been celibate. So, I don't know how he could be Grogu's father.
He could be just yaddle's son with a father that isn't yoda
Honestly do the math. We've only seem three of a species that lives for nearly 1000 years. A male, a female and a child. All of them are force sensitive...
@@jordanhenry6478 That doesn't mean that they are the only ones that exist, it is quite possible that there are other members of their species out there but we haven't seen them
Damn good catch seeing Yoda’s lightsaber on his hip when Bail rescued him!!
The one thrown in the furnace is likely a spare he kept at the Jedi Temple that was confiscated after Order 66
This makes sense. Specially the theory about comics not really being cannon when it’s convenient. However I felt that leaving his lightsaber behind also sold better the idea that Yoda might actually be dead; thus also making the idea that the empire would stop putting resources into finding him, more legit.
That's what I always thought. He left it behind to make him seem dead or something
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
@@Vandicoup good find. Leaves us with more questions, but fun times all the same. At least there is “hope” for a satisfying explanation to this
Nah comic is cannon
They never literally say in the comic that it's yoda's lightsaber. it could just be that some other jedi who also had small hands made one that looked like it because he want it to be inspired by the grand masters lightsaber. And maybe they mistook this for yoda's lightsaber then, believing they destroyed it.
Word around is that it could simply be 1 of many lightsabers Yoda had through his life. The one he took with him into exile, perhaps. As for the scratches being in the same place, Yoda does have pretty strong claws. And if his technique was refined and unchanged for a few sabers, he may just leave similar scratch patters on all his sabers.
There are three options
1. It was Yoda's other spare one.
2. It was a replica only for the the public and Palpatine kept the original as a trophy.
3. This is just another instance of a canonical mistake and we Star Wars fans are going to find some random and/or convoluted explanation to sleep well at night.
The spare one theory seems interesting.
@@Carrity most jedi always have spares
@@dmawashere in one of Star Wars theory video, it said that yoda doesn’t want to wield any lightsaber again.
@@Carrity I can imagine Yods looking at the spare one thinking to himself "Remind me of my failure this lightsaber will."
Most likely the third if history serves us right.
I completely one million percent agree with you Theory. Also, great videos this week! I loved the Cad Bane kills the Tuskens one too!
There legit should be a 0% chance of grogu being yodas son… yoda followed the Jedi code more than almost any other Jedi
i agree it doesn't sound very yoda
I know this there that it is Yoda's son doesn't add up. It would like assuming that every human youngling is Obi-Wan's kid because they are the same species.
I feel it's one of his lightsabers. Through a Jedi's life there are situations and scenarios where they do end up losing their lightsaber and have to refurbish anyone happens all the time looking clone wars and also attack of the clones where Anakin had his sliced in half by machine comes to show everybody that the one he gets after that one is the lightsaber you see and all the other movies that is Luke's and eventually Ray's lightsaber. I know there's a comic where he explains or he never refurbishes one.
The actual writer of the comic explained that Yoda did have multiple Lightsabers. Maybe he stopped using one after order 66 but he still had a few stowed away, like the one he kept in a box that Luke is now in possession of
seems the most logical, I doubt he had the same one lightsaber for 800 years lol
Exactly
Haha! I literally fall asleep to your videos (in a good way!).
And after watching Boba Fett and going to sleep, I put exactly that video of yours on where the sabers got burned up, so I could fall asleep to some storytelling.
I had already seen that video of yours, but right as I started to drift asleep I went: "Wait hold up!"
I was debating writing a comment about it in your newest video but decided against it. Didn't feel right to comment something that has nothing to do with the video.
I think luke is simply testing him to see what he would choose to confirm he is dedicated to the Jedi way. But will give him both in the end
Agree
good take
I like that thought
I hope so, because honestly I think the idea of a choice was kinda stupid. Coming from the guy who, in Legends, marries a Sith assassin, has kids, and allows a Dark Force user into his academy (Kyle Katarn) it rings a bit hollow. Even in cannon his attachment to his father is what allowed him to redeem Anakin in the end. Luke is supposed to see through the dogmatic rules of the previous Jedi Order and found a new one that is less steeped in ancient rules and traditions and instead listens more to the will of the force. I guess all that got washed away with the blue titty milk though....
@@Nostradevus1I'm with you on this. I hope Luke founds his new academy without that dogmatic "no attachments" rule. He would have eventually learned how that rule failed the Jedi Order.
*asks this question in a comment
*gets full video explanation
Your channel is excellent. Thanks man.
I don’t see it as a retcon, Yoda just built a new one while in exile. I would think a Grand Master either would have several(like the emperor had) or at least more then 1 crystal. Like Luke just because he won’t use one, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have. Whatever the thoughts I agree, screen trumps comic books.
What about the identical scratch marks?
Grogu becomes a time cop and goes back in time to save himself from order 66 and find Yoda’s hilt.
Yoda could have many lightsabers in his quarters at the jedi temple.
After the Jedi temple raid, Mas Ameda could have taken one of these spare lighsabers.
^^ this personally makes the most sense to me
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
I remember that book oh yeah.. Well ether way cool Thanks for the lore video General Theory 🤘
We know Jedis that had multiple sabers. Considering how long Yoda lives, no wonder he had a backup somewhere.
Either that or they burned a different lightsaber, just a similar one to Yodas. I think thats the best retcon imo
maybe Yaddle's?
Yeah at the bottom you can see a circular pommel. Defo a different variant of Yoda's saber
I agree, Jedi did on occasion have multiple lightsabers. Look at Anakin in the prequels. He broke or lost at least three of them.
@Justin Gary you really didnt need to paste the entire bible
@@ImInSpainWithoutTheS lol
Yoda- pull out I did not
@Star Wars Theory:
If Baby Yoda is the son of master Yoda won’t that make him the BIGGEST hypocrite of the Jedi order since they weren’t allowed to have a family etc?
They aren't allowed to have a family but it doesn't mean they aren't allowed to reproduce if needed
Grogu is probably going to be the first Mandalorian jedi since Taar Visla. I think that would be a neat direction to take him as he has a strong attachment to Mando and is also force sensitive. (Not to mention Mando has THE dark saber, which was pretty important in Visla's story)
As for the retcon, I bet it's a good story, for another time.
If they ignore or retcon the comics (which generally speaking are great and worth reading), why even bother making them if the writers/directors of movies and tv shows don't even care?
That is the million-credit question. I remember that the old expanded universe occasionally had stories that contradicted each other in small ways, but they always took such care not to contradict the movies (and if there were any live action tv series in those days, they presumably would have taken care not to contradict them either) which is why Anakin never fought Dooku throughout the clone war and Obi-Wan never met Grievous.
Dude your voice acting got so much better
My personal head canon to deal with this, the thing that mas ameda threw into the fire was not actually Yoda’s saber, instead it was a fake hilt that they put together for political grandstanding
looks kinda big in the comic
It also has a bulb on the bottom of the hilt... Yoda's does not.
Yoda and Yaddle sitting in a tree…. K I S S I N G…… First comes love, then comes Grogu….😉🤣🤣
I’m confused at the “a Sith’s lightsaber crystal is taken, not given”. Didn’t Vader just take them from a bunch of Jedi in the temple?
Well the clones helped him so it wouldn't really be honorable to take them.
He took it from a surviving Jedi in the comics
Vader held Anakin’s lightsaber at the time (Palpatine made it very clear that this was the saber of another and not his own anymore in that issue) likewise the saber of the dead no longer held an owner, it would be claiming that which had no counter, like picking up a rock from the side of the road. It’s the same reason why on his quest when he went to some kind of information repository that held many lightsabers in storage and even used one for a moment, he discarded it and continued on his quest. He had to take a lightsaber FROM a living Jedi, prove himself the superior to claim it. And then corrupt the crystal. Anything less would be unworthy of a Sith Lord.
@@tomsamper4345 that whole thing was so stupid
@@Red-zh7vq I didn’t write it I’m just relaying it but for the record it was good story, the first arc on Charles Soule’s run in Darth Vader (issues 1-6 I think but I could be a little off on the length)
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Palpatine had several identical lightsabers. Why wouldn't Yoda have a backup or two?
Maybe that's not allowed for the jedis such a basic things like feelings for someone
@@aA-hq4km that wouldn't make sense since Anikin as well other jedi have had to replaces there lightsabers
@cyberspectre I agree, dude lives for 800+ years and he only made 1 lightsaber. I'm not buying it.
@@CeRz I wasn't sure so I just put 800+, either way if he is 900 I'd still be right lol
You have a great channel!
He made a second lightsaber, which was also in the comics. Made it look like he re-assembled it from other lightsabers. That was the one found on Dagobah, which Luke tried to give to Grogu
Amazing video as always keep up the good work🥳
So Luke is showing him the lightsaber and telling him about Yoda. Do you really think that if Yoda really was Grogu’s father, Luke would withhold that information? Luke has been on the other end of that lie by omission, so I don’t think he’d make that same mistake.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
Why would Luke know?
I would really hate it if Grogu was Yoda's son as that would make him a massive hypocrite for telling Anakin to forgo his attachments when he kept his hidden for however long. I think Grogu is just another member of the species that is particularly force sensitive that may near extinction so to keep that tradition alive, Grogu had to be trained.
@@alexbirchall3658 I would also hate if Yoda and Yaddle were Grogu's parents, but not for the reason you have. It would just be kinda lame af, not everyone has to be related, you know ?
@@Crem_ate yeah true. I respect that.
Luke : Jedi can't have attachments
Grogu : bro Yoda is my dad😂
There was a Twitter comment from one of the creative leads on this exact subject and apparently he was saying that it's not impossible for Yoda to have multiple lightsaber over his long long life so it's not the same lightsaber that was destroyed at the Jedi Temple it's just an extra that Yoda had
theory has been putting in the work these past few days
For me yoda always had his saber. And part of that for me because of the yoda hut and xwing Lego set where it came with his saber and it could be kept under his bed pad. And I thought it was always just understood that Luke then took the saber after that. For me when it comes to the comic, maybe it was just an extra saber of yoda’s and not his main saber.
Grogu BETTER not be a descendant of any character we know. We should not know anything else about that species.
I noticed that Grogu is a bit shorter than Yoda, probably cause he's way younger, Yoda's Saber looks like it would be kind of big for Grogu.
IDK
Yet people think he can carry the darksaber 🤷♂️
Palps having a replica made, just to help seal the idea in Vaders mind that everything Anakin knew is now dead, seems right up his alley.
There is no consistency in Diz-canon. He had his lightsaber when he escaped. It is even in the novel. Shows simply that Disney doesn't care about consistency, only convenience. That Episode with Luke also wasn't right. Luke saw attachment as something that could be allowed if controlled. So this new canon with its INFINITE problems have turned me off of their Attempts at Star Wars. I watched BoBF out of curiosity. And see all the lore problems and such. It's unforgivable in my eyes. If you enjoy it, awesome. But I cannot see it as anything more than attempts of corporate fan fiction. They call it Canon, I call it crap.
Good video SW Theory.
The old expanded universe had little inconsistencies here and there, but I get what you're saying.
@@realJoeMavro They had more than little inconsistencies. Old EU had pretty glaring ones. The one that always stands out to me is the physical description of Ganner Rhysode. Check out his wookiepedia article for more on what I mean. Also, Splinter of the Mind's eye has like zero continuity with anything. It was basically Lucas' backup script in case he couldn't afford to make Empire the way he wanted... so even though it was the first EU title, it goes down a very different path than the actual narrative of the saga and Legends/EU.
There is though? In addition to the fact that Yoda probably had multiple lightsabers, Complete Locations established that his lightsaber was stored, within his hut, within 2015.
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The big one for me was Labyrinth of Evil. At one point in the book, Dooku is reminiscing about what "a delight" Grievous was to train and what a quick learner he was, while in a later chapter, Dooku is thinking about how predictable Grievous' moves are and how "hopeless" he is. It's like those two chapters were each written by a different writer with a different idea of how Dooku and Grievous' relationship should be.
Actually, the final season of Tartakovsky's Clone Wars seems to take some inspiration from Labyrinth of Evil, despite there being some crucial differences, particularly the invasion of Coruscant. Labyrinth of Evil references certain events that happen in Tartakovsky's Clone Wars, but after Labyrinth of Evil, I don't think they're meant to be the in same continuity.
4:03 that blast of energy is epic
There’s a comic where Yoda rebuilds his lightsaber on degobah. If anything the comics retconned itself.
Thank you so much for covering this
What if the lightsaber he thrown in didn't belong to Yoda. It was in fact Grogu's original lightsaber designed for him, without the knowledge of his existence they mistook it for Yoda's.
I just now discovered something, pointed out by the channel New Rockstars in their "All Easter Eggs and References" video from this week's episode of The Book of Boba Fett, about Yoda's "lost" lightsaber: Apparently, there was a later comic made, one of the "Age of Rebellion" issues, that hinted that Yoda kept his saber on Dagobah all those years, but had it completely disassembled to keep it very well-hidden and after he died, Luke later recovered it and re-assembled it himself I'm assuming. But I'm not sure why they even name-dropped Yoda's lightsaber in that Darth Vader comic then. Maybe Yoda built a decoy hilt to kept it for an occasion like Order 66 so that he could cover his tracks? I dunno....
@@Vandicoup in that comic Yoda says he will never wiel a lightsaber again and he uses some pices that resembles a lightsaber to make a bow, because he was tired of just vegetable for diner.
Found this out from Rosie Knight on the X-Ray vision podcast, but in the Star wars Age of Rebellion special #1, the trial of dagobah, Yoda rebuilt his lightsaber.
So no, nothing was retconned
Yoda might have built a new one just in case he would have needed it.
I found this comments made by Chares Soule "Yoda built a new one or that he had more than one or that Darth Sidious built a fake to make a point."
and this one by the Lucasfilm story group "Yoda likely had more than a few lightsabers during his lifetime"
Although neither is certain it gives us many possibilities.
Probs not bro yodas lightsaber in book of bobba had same scratch marks on it as the one he uses in rots
@@joeyladd8841 Palpatine might have kept it also and burned a fake onw, so he could keep the real as a trophy from one of his greatest accomplishments.
@@joeyladd8841 I also just saw a comment that in another cannon book that Yoda rebuilt his lightsaber. I looked it up and there are the comments I added into my comment.
this was a great video keep up the good work!
Or what if the saber survived the explosion. Maybe it was even made from beskar itself, it would be a nice connection to Grogu if he creates his own saber with the same material. Well maybe the metal itself is not only connected to mandalorians, but yoda species as well and through the force the foundling was united with mandalorians not without a reason. I mean beskar can resist a lightsaber, the most powerful weapon powered by the force.
Literally thought of this the moment I saw yoga’s lightsaber. Glad you caught it!
Dave Filoni himself once said we shouldn’t really pay too much attention to canon and details anyway.
Now all they need to do is Retcon episodes 7,8 and 9
I believe it would've been better, and in my opinion even cooler if Grogu would eventually build his own lightsaber after being taught how to by Luke.
That will probably still happen when he's ready to do it
He probably will. It's useful for a Jedi who's just starting out to have a lightsaber to learn with, but building your own is an important rite of passage.
Just before Yoda drops into senator organa‘a speeder, you see his communicator clearly on his belt at the front of his body (time stamp is 1:56:34 on Disney+). But when he drops into the appended what we’re all seeing is an item on his belt toward the back of his body. So I’d say it would indeed be his lightsaber. Then again, at 1:56:38 as he’s leaping into the air you can clearly see the side of his body and only the communicator is visible.
Hey Star Wars Theory, didn’t Ben say in the Rise of Kylo Ren comics that he was Luke’s first student? Wouldn’t that mean that Grogu chooses the armor?
Well, again, if it's in the comics it's not necessarily canon after all.
Or maybe Ben is engaging in wishful thinking.
OR... perhaps he's not counting Grogu because Grogu was part of the old Jedi Order long before Luke.
No we know Leah was Luke’s first student
Whipping out the lightsaber and making grogu pick between it and the chainmail was an abusive dad move.
Maybe it wasn’t Yoda’s lightsaber, it is possible that Yaddle or another Jedi had a similar looking one. After all General Grevious had lightsabers that looked like Anakin and Obi Wan’s.
That has nothing to do with in universe canon. That entirely had to do with mistakes with prop placement. You see it with the duel of Obi-Wan and Anakin. Anakin is holding Obi-Wans lightsaber, then Obi-Wan is holding Anakins. It’s kinda funny.
Also plausible
@@IvanKinkle well that was because there was a part of the fight that got cut.
Thanks for the explanation, I was really confused.
Im pretty sure grogu is gonna put his hands on both items, like come on there have been jedi mandalorians before, why not now?
I’m hoping it’s just a way for Luke to know Grogu is grasping the severity of the situation. I would be bummed if he gets sent back to Mando without that saber! Lol
Grogu is Yoda and Palpatines baby confirmed
Ehhhhh... They never said it was the same lightsaber. Plus, Soule, and other Lucasfilm staff, have stated he likely had multiple sabers, or built another one later on.
It was notable, to some of us, but really not a big deal even if it is a retcon.
Shout out to Saber Sourcing, love that channel.
the furnus probably burnt off the rubber on the hilt on the bottom and it survived and luke went and got the hilt later after the fall of the empire. as we know luke was after jedi artifacts after ROTJ
Epic video, great attention to detail.
Didn’t the one the blue guy had contain a ball at the pommel of the lightsaber? Yoda’s doesn’t have that ball pommel.
thank you! the second part about Yoda swearing to never wield a lightsaber ever again, was something i immediately thought of thanks to your vids. [also im gonna be honest, I'm alright with it cause Yoda swear off the lightsaber hurt like hell, i could understand it but it still hurt like hell.
I can’t get behind the theory that grogu is yoda’s son because yoda surely wouldn’t leave him behind at the Jedi temple during order 66 and live out his days in dagobah without even attempting to look for him
You are wise, my friend.
And I agree!
Since I haven't read the books and comics anyway, I have no qualms whatsoever with Luke handing Yoda's Lightsaber to Grogu.
I actually think it's possible it's the same one, just repaired by Luke after everything that happened to it. I mean the lightsabers were all made from different metals, so it could have been lucky enough.🤔
Well you can't love anything if you hate yourself? 😆
He's not looking at the lightsaber. He's looking up at the members of the senate.
Yoda being grogu’s dad would be waaaaaaay more stupid than Rey being a palpatine
It's hard to imagine yoda having a one night stand lol
@Glitcheroony He upheld the Jedi code more than anyone though. I highly doubt he would go against his beliefs.
From what I heard from Lucasfilm it wasn’t a retcon they said yoda had many in his lifetime, and that it might of been one from the past
You just know Disney can’t resist showing an entire planet full of yoda species. That’s definitely gonna happen in Mando, dunno what season. But Mark my words. It’s too marketable.
Okay real quick is no one going to point out that the saber in the comic doesn’t match the saber in the book of boba? The saber in the comic has a ball on the bottom while the saber in the show does not, it’s clear to see and if I remember correctly it was never stated to be yoda’s all Vader said was that he could have been given yoda’s not that that one was it
The one thing people are forgetting is that Jedi especially a grandmaster like Yoda, can summon their lightsabers back to them. At any point off camera he could have recollected his lightsaber with the force.
Thanks for explaining a bit more about this. For all the noobs to star wars
thor’s hammer vibes
Something I don’t think many people have noticed: The lightsaber that got burned in the comic has a difference to Yoda’s: a ball at the end of the hilt. It’s nothing compared to the rest of the lightsaber that’s just identical to Yoda’s, but let’s not forget that in Episode III, one of Grievous’s lightsaber was the same as Anakin’s but in green. So who knows, this might be another use of that same placeholding technique, hence the now “retcon” of Yoda’s saber being burned with the rest
Maybe you haven't heard, but when Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney, Disney destroyed all of the cannon except for the live-action movies. Really a brilliant move to pay 9 billion dollars for a franchise and then wipe out 85% of it don't you think?
Are you just realizing this?
@@Kip450 why are you asking me? I'm the one who said so. Apparently you need to ask the uploader. And by the way, Where were you in 1977? I was sitting in a movie theatre.
@@Kip450 Kyle I asked you a question, where were you in 1977?
Bro Yoda remade his lightsaber in the book Star wars: The Complete Locations. And the writer and a Lucasfilm rep both said it was canon.