Best Off Grid DC Fridge EVER for Home RV and Emergencies
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- Ever Chill DC Fridge: www.recpro.com/rv-refrigerato... Use coupon code: NC6USLB
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The Ever Chill DC Fridge is seriously the best and more efficient fridge I have used. For 10.7 cubic feet of space, I can fit a lot of food and it uses 3x less power than my normal house fridge and 8x less power than my RV Dometic fridge.
Ever Chill DC Fridge Measurements: 23.1/2" Wide x 25" Deep x 59.5/8" Tall
Watch as I review and compare the Ever Chill fridge to others and see how well it works. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
My 5 cubic ft freezer and my 3.1 cubic ft dorm fridge both use about 50 to 60 watts while running. I can run the freezer about 15 hours and my refrigerator about 20 off the Bluetti EB70. It at least gives me a fighting chance to save my food after hurricanes. If I get a small gas generator I can recharge the Bluetti very fast or use pass through solar charging during the day to keep it topped off. It`s hard to get gas or anything else after bad hurricanes.
One important thing when buying ANYTHING, is customer service. It is great that you have had no issues with your frig so there has been no reason to deal with customer service. Maybe someone can comment on dealing with customer service at RecPro or Everchill.
Thanks for all your reviews.
In a perfect world I wish somebody would come up with a hybrid refrigerator propane and the danfoss compressor so you could go back and forth 🤔😁👍
That would be pretty nice.
That would be heavy and expensive as they are two different systems. The RV propane/electric fridges work by a method called absorption which is much different than fridges that use a compressor system. When an absorption fridge is running off of electricity it is heating an element similar to what you would find in an electric water heater ~ it’s going to use a lot of energy. The absorption fridges have a tougher time staying cool when the ambient temperature gets warm.
@@oneoldguy4299 that was my point use propane in the winter when you don't have Sun the summer when you have Sun you use electric 🤔
Love the Warrior Poet Society T-shirt! Glad to see you are also a member. I recommend it for all the Warriors and Protectors watching your channel, Ben!
Glad to see another brother! WPSN is awesome.
Brilliantly done. Appreciate the information you presented. Cheers!
This is a fantastic video regarding off grid refrigeration. Thanks !
Good one as always I enjoy your video Thank you👍
Thank you so much for this valuable information!
Wow! I am so jealous of how you know so much. I am just starting to learn all this off grid information and you explain things very simply which helps me as a beginner. I didn't know a DC frig existed! A couple of years ago I purchased the Kodiak Inergy battery but watching your videos I think at some point I'm going to want to upgrade to a Titan. Thank you for your videos.
Well I didn't learn it all overnight, so keep at it =). The Kodiak was the best in it's time, there wasn't anything better back then. Now the Titan is currently the best. That's what I use as my home backup and to run my RV and Cabin all the time. Whenever you're ready be sure to checkout poweredportablesolar.com/ for the best deals and stay tuned there are lots of videos on preparedness to come.
@@minutemanprep I've always loved games and puzzles. My problem is math with all the output/input info. But I need to just focus. Tx for the encouragement.
I'm using a Magic Chef 10.7 refrigerator running of my 2400 EB Bluetti and it's perfect. When runs it uses less than 60 watts. Amps 1.4. In my Trailer my Magic Chief chest freezer also running off a separate EB 2400 Bluetti uses less than 100 watts when running.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing
I'm shopping for something like this. seems pretty efficient. $65.00 discount.. sure sweetens the deal.
I just converted my rv fridge to DC and it works great. Much colder than it used to be.
Which fridge? I got the ever chill 4.1 piece of crap never worked
I'm in desperate need of advise. I have a Bluetti 200p
WARRIOR POET SOCIETY T-SHIRT! We are part of the same club love that brother
great stuff. tx
I sure would love to have one of these but being on a very low disability income I did the best I could with the stimulus checks. I bought two 300 watt power stations, two 700 watt Bluetti EB70s, a lot of various types of solar panels, a lot of power banks, two 5 cubic ft AC freezers and a dorm fridge. I bought a lot of accessories like 12 volt cookers, cables, radios, prepping tools, lights, fans, and universal USB battery chargers. I live in hurricane and tornado country and needed to ensure I had power after these terrible storms. We got hit twice last year then had the Winter storm.
Been living without a fridge for over a year now it’s time I get to it..
Yea, the Dometic fridge uses a heat source to activate the ammonia refrigeration system. The DC fridge uses straight dc power.
Ty sir
in permanant cabin imo i build a platform/storage to make it easer to access the ref part im tall and back problems
problemrunning home fridge in homes is you can no longer shut the defrost circuit off my older sears coldspot had switch to stop defrost . at night it comes on using lot of power
Don't forget to measure your Camper or RV door to make sure you can get the old fridge out and the new fridge in without having to take your door frame off.
for sure
@@minutemanprep The reason that I brought that up is because my camper trailer had a 3 way fridge in it that I gave away. The guy that came and got it could not get it out in one piece, and he ended up cutting the lines on the back just to get it out.
Propsne is obviously king.
Great video! Did you use the Delta 2 ecoflow? The link takes you to the Delta Pro.
Would the Delta 2 + the two Delta 2 smart batteries do the job of running the everchill fridge?
Thanks for the video. I would have liked to know the running watts of the fridge, whether its constant while running, and the overall energy consumption when running at steady state (i.e. total kWh for operating at the set temp). This info would help me evaluate the battery/solar needs for my travel trailer. Thanks.
It uses an average of 50wh/hr. But it fluctuates just like any fridge so there is no standard running wattage, just an average.
A big plus for the Everchill fridge is it's frost free. Most of the other 12vdc fridges aren't. Also comes with a 1yr wrty. Rec Pro has no discernable wrty. The Everchill also has a great price point. I would like to know if the doors are truly reversible. With the sliding travel locks on the front it's not obvious if you can reverse them. Could you reply back on this? Looking to replace a 8cuft Norcold 2-way fridge. Should be easy-squeezy. With the advances and lower costs for solar & Lithium batteries, 12vdc is the way to go. Thanks for the video and your time.
Yes the door directions can be swapped.
$1,300 for that Refrigerator!!!
1) Use a Kill-A-Watt meter and find the actual amount of power used.
2) Never us a 12v plug for something as important as a refrigerator Hard wire that in so there's no issues.
You should have DC power because that’s a three phase power refrigerator. Propane, DC is one way the other way is 110 and Propane. So you should have DC power there you’ll have three wires coming out of the wall or hook to the refrigerator when you start to pull it
You have a sick idea of what you think is going to be a fun video 😅🤣
The great debate, do you spend $600 extra for a DC fridge or spend the $600 on additional solar panels and batteries and use an AC fridge? The cost of panels and batteries has really dropped in the last couple of years.....
That's a fair debate. It's up to each to decide on their own what will work best for their setup.
@@minutemanprep Couldn't agree more. Offgrid Steve (an Edison Battery guy) has a most interesting take on allocating resources- Basically he promotes buying "too many" panels.... watts are now the cheapest part of a system.
Even though I sized my PV system an AC fridge I'm considering a DC fridge so that I can shut down the inverter when I’m out of town and still have the fridge powered up. I would also still have refrigeration in the event the inverter failed.
@rogerthoms9542 good idea, if you really want to be "bullet proof" a dual or tri propane fridge is great. I lived off grid back in the day (when solar was $20 per Watt or more) with a second hand Servel propane fridge so I could turn off inverter when I was at work and at night. If you're only using the propane while 'gone' and door stays shut they are incredibly efficient.
Were all three fridges primed and already cold like the house fridge when the test began, or did any of the fridges have to "catch up" to get the internal temp to stasis?
Oh, and to charge the delta, how many and how big are the solar panels?
And you can get rid of that vent maybe put another solar panel up there. Like my 83 holiday rambler I’m taking the vents that go through the roof one goes for the Water storage tank I have it coming out just over the wheel well. The black tank holding tank I have it coming up and out just underneath the awning. The shower one I’m gonna come out on the side and plug those holes. My whole roof is Aluminum frame, and everything’s and riveted together.
I'm curious on the size of the compressor that the DC frig uses? What a huge difference!
I don't recall the size
This video using the ExoFlow reminded me of a question I wanted to ask you. I have a goodly Titan system in my basement with enough solar to run most of my downstairs stuff, but getting power to the top floors is kind of a pain. I’ve been thinking about another generator like EcoFlow sized that I could easily move upstairs if needed. My issue is, I’m not sure I want to play with my solar panel setup to charge such a unit. Would you consider charging something like an EcoFlow directly from a Titan, or would that just be too inefficient to consider? Is there a way to connect such a unit to one of the many DC outs on the Titan to improve this?
Looking forward to your long term EcoFlow review!
No way to use a DC charger unless it's the car charger but that's very slow to charge the delta off of the titan. I personally would just buy long extension cords. If it's only being used for emergencies and backup power then the cords won't be there forever and they're easy to set up and put away especailly if you get a cheap extension cord wheel. This would save a lot of money. But if you still wanted to spend as much money as a new delta, I would still get the cords and add another battery to the Titan or add more panels or both. It doesn't make too much sense to charge another system off of the Titan and move it back and forth. Because then when the Delta has to charge, whatever is upstairs cannot be running since it's power source is being charged.
@@minutemanprep What gauge Ext Cords should be used with the Titan for extra 50-100 Ft?
@@LoneRanger-ik1qb 12 gauge is perfect.
You try Bluetti Max or 300?
What has been your experience with the 12v fridge since you installed it? I'm researching installing a 12v model. Thanks
That 12v fridge has worked perfectly for me, no issues.
So how many watt hours does it use when the compressor is on, and how many watt hours when the compressor is not on? I guess I'm just trying to determine what the average usage per hour it will take to run this fridge off grid on solar my Titan.
So watts and watt-hours are two different things, that's one of the confusing things about solar and electricity. Watts, is the combination of volts and amps being used to run a device (volts x amps = watts). It uses about 60 - 90 watts when it's running the compressor. But it will not run for all 60 minutes of each hour. Watt-hours is how much power was actually consumed off of the battery per hour. It averages about 50wh per hour (50wh x 25hrs = 1,250wh which is about the capacity of the EcoFlow Delta battery). So with your Titan the battery is 2,000wh. You take 2,000wh ÷ 50wh = 40hrs of run time depending on how full it is, ambient temperature around the fridge and internal temperature setting.
How would that compare to using an AC fridge similar in size? Like a Haier 9.8-cu ft Top-Freezer Refrigerator
Considering the $$ cost of the Everchill, ($1200) You'd probably be able to use the savings from the price of the haier to purchase a much larger power station to handle the additional loses from the inverter , assuming you had the solar power to charge the larger station..
Do you think the Ever Chill is better than Unique models? I have been looking at the unique brand for a long time but really couldn't justify the cost even though I've heard they are very good customer service. I have an off-grid cabin and am working on getting solar installed but that could take another year or so before we get that installed. Some people have said to just go with a smaller 120 volt refrigerator around 10 cubic feet for a lot less money than the unique refrigerators since I would be using solar and 120 volt power to the house but again that's going to be a year or two . Now considering a DC fridge like this one and use the generator to charge a 12 volt battery when we need to.
I am unsure of the Unique brand but this one has worked really really well.
A small 120v would keep things very simple and you could justify getting more solar panels instead or something like that
@@minutemanprep Thanks and thank you for all the videos you do. I do enjoy them and have learned a lot.
Since you mentioned the Titan in your vid; I ordered mine in Jul. Do we get any updates after we paid or have to wait for hopefully Christmas? Great Vid. TY
Hi Roy,
I know your questions is for Ben but I may be able to give you an answer until he's able to respond or correct what I'm about to say.
Considering you just ordered your Titan in July, you're looking at Nov-Dec time frame with no updates. What I did was near the time frame of my Titan shipping I reached out to Ben and PZ and was given a shipping window which was pretty much accurate give or take a few days which coincided with the silicone chip manufacturing issues affecting everything.
There isn't much to update on so we don't send out any updates along the way. We have been pretty close to our shipping estimates so if you ordered last month you're looking at Nov/Dec for delivery. It's worth the wait for sure. A week or two before we send your unit out we will email you to confirm you shipping information is correct. Once you confirm the correct info we then create the label and wait for UPS or FedEx to pick it up. Once we have the tracking numbers for the label we email that out to you too so you know when to expect it. Thank you for your business and let me know if I can help in the meantime.
@@SiCaRiI_DaGgEr Thanks
@@minutemanprep
You're welcome Ben!
With the dc frig freezer. What were total Amp Hours for 24 hours?
Thank you
There's a difference in real world use, a closed door even empty fridge is probably more efficient than a fridge in a 90 degree cabin , being opened and closed for cold food and beverages and having to recover those air loses.
I have the Everchill 4.5..mine needs to be grounded, does the 10 cubic need grounding?
Not that I am aware of. I've been running this for over a year now and have had no issues.
If you’re looking just for a freezer that runs off of DC what is your recommendation please does ever chill have a freezer other than a refrigerator freezer?
I've only used portable dc freezers like the Iceco J40L nothing huge for a home
Let me know if you find one... I would like to find a good quality (LARGE) DC Freezer.
How long is power line to fridge, and losses at 12v?
Mine's 16ft, no idea on losses. It can't be much since it's such low power.
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I do not think the EverChill frig will stick out at all. You measured to the back to the interior wall, you have space for the framing and will have additional space if the frig you are removing is an AC/DC frig because of the space between back of your RV frig and outside vent...
You're right. So since the door needs to hinge open I will have extra space behind it.
Hello, How much noise does this unit make in dB when its compressor running? Thanks
Quieter than a normal fridge, I don' know how many db.
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But during peak afternoon or during the day, your battery shouldn’t be touched. It’s only in the evening time or when you’re not being able to get sunlight. You should be able to run the refrigerator just off solar alone and AC in the house and your battery pack and battery storage is for when you don’t have any sunlight
Interesting about the extent of energy wasted with AC RV fridges.
They are making 16 CU Feet version of it
Who is making a 16 ft DC frig??
Looks like your install didn't allow for the 1 inch minimum clearance for all sides.
15 minutes of yakkity yak that could have been condensed to about 3 minutes.
SPEAK.
If this was just to compare the 2 refrigerators efficiency, why did you confuse all the numbers by talking about your batteries and how many you got and how long it would run on all your batteries because that means nothing! Everybody has different batteries than you do.
I was just trying to give people a better understanding of the possibilities of this fridge. That is why I tested all 3 fridges off of the exact same unit/battery but then shared about how results can differ based on different setups.
Sure I understand what you were trying to do however, what I’m saying is you failed miserably. You muddied the waters so much that watching it was nothing but a confusing mess. I hope you can understand from my post and rebuttal to your response, that I’m not an idiot or uneducated!
You should have left out your battery stuff, well I could do it with this battery or I could do it with that battery or I could blah blah blah. Your video is worthless.i encourage you to do it over and clearly stated the efficiency of each refrigerator so we can see what would be the best to purchase.
@@grdelawter4266 I'm good thanks. However you're welcome to make a video about it...
You suck and your ok with that
@@grdelawter4266 your point is somewhat valid, but it is subjective. Even tho I'm using a 2,000w AC Max, the battery results are transferrable to my setup w a little math, and they do shed some light on the real-world application. Perhaps if you watch again, or read thru some replies you'll see how it might be beneficial under some circumstances.
Thanks.