I literally saw a SpongeBob “Aight I’mma head out“ meme the other day where it said “When Jonny Craig’s new band starts to become successful“ Jonny: “Aight I’mma do heroin” Anyway, love the videos man. Every single one of them is a huge dose of nostalgia
Lol I thought immediately about what they say about Chester of linkin park "sings like an angel and screams like a demon". How would one describe Oliver Sykes tho? honestly I wouldn't know how to do that at all especially when looking at his modern style / current evolution .
I am always surprised that his “vocal lesson” scam is never brought up... still owes me $200 for 4 lessons. Been 6 years. Even hit him up recently about it and still no results. Just funny at this point
Keith Craig I am a full time musician in many different genres and take it extremely seriously. Thought it would be a good opportunity to learn more about the style of singing I e been working on for 10 years. . Had a feeling it might happen. However, you miss 100% of the chances you don’t take.
jackiemoon12341 understandable. I don’t blame you. Hearing a voice as good as his who wouldn’t wanna sound like Jonny? Damn I even wish I could sing like him just for my own pleasure. But I wouldn’t trust Jonny with a one dollar bill lol.
@@exteeriority4349 One of the most important points here is that it wasn't Jackie's job to look out for herself in this situation. Jonny was the famous entity, with an extensive fan base, with a very high level of influence over his fans, and a very high level of trust that they felt towards him simply because of his position, and look what he did with it and look what he did to her (and not only her). Jonny wasn't just another acquaintance that she should have scoffed at the idea of giving money to. He was supposed to be an idol and an example as he attempted to portray himself as, and arrogantly allowed himself to feel and believe that he was. In reality, he was/is a manipulator, a crook, a fraud, a thief, a toxic human and entity, an addict, and just a bad human-being in general. He took advantage of his fans and the people around him, and I'm sure that he still does. So don't make this about Jackie and how she wasn't "wise enough" to know better at the time, especially because she was probably a young and impressionable person when Jonny took advantage of her and scammed her. The girl wanted to better her life, career, and skills, and Jonny helped to deprive her of that by leading her on and taking money from her that wasn't his, all in the name of getting some more heroin. He's a pristine example of how shitty people should not be given fame, popularity, or the power of influence. The worst part is its all because the dude sings well. Most people fail to realize that if you take lessons and dedicate enough time to it, most people can end up just as good as Jonny Craig. And with that being said, you realize how singing well really just doesn't make you that special in reality. And honestly dude, your blame-shifting comment makes me think that you're probably not that much different than him when it comes down to it.
LOL, “I think the better question is does Jonny have enough stories to make a movie out of and sell? The answer is yes and it will be $19.95”. Slow 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
“Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?” - Jon Mess (2011)
They say Tillian was formed on a canvas made of 847 bald eagles Jon conjured himself because he felt the population of Earth was too weak to fill Jonny Craig’s shoes.
I am in no way defending what Jonny Craig did. But I have been addicted to the same stuff and it changes who you are as a person and you become soulless shell with one mission. Get more junk, no matter the cost. That does not absolve him in any way for the shitty things he's done along the way, though I do understand. Hope everyone is doing well.
Addiction is a horrible disease and this is an important point, but there's definitely something to be said about his character. Anthony Green is a junkie and even relapsed recently, but he's still beloved and an overall good guy by most people's accounts.
Yeah, especially heroin & crack make you go crazy. And it's not like you're 'out of it' every time, especially when you're a long time user. It's more the not getting sick thing that's going in then. So yeah, you can scam multiple people. And he's a shithead who uses people none the less. He doesn't want to get better I think. He's given up so he's like fuck it and fuck everyone, let's use.
You really have the most natural talent for storytelling! Your enthusiasm and attitude is super contagious, and the content is educational enough to be a university course.
Actually yesterday I was listening to Pierce the veil she makes dirty feat. Johnny Craig is just a really underrated collaboration of Vic and Johnny ♥️
26:30 this made me violently burst out laughing. The thought of Jon and Jonny silently skyping sign language with each other is hilarious. I'm 99.9% sure Jon's answers are deliberately as ridiculous as possible.
yay i was so excited for this!!! i can’t imagine that it was easy to collect all this info and organize it into such a cohesive video, so i really appreciate it!
As someone who was 22 when you were 14, i appreciate your love for and knowledge of these bands, and really enjoy the depth and detail you’ve put into telling this story. Kudos man.
I have been clean from heroin for 4 years, and I can say when you’re high and you scam someone successfully, then you continue to do what works. Also when you have the drug in your system, negative consequences aren’t even a thought. That drug is more important than literally anything. I’m not defending him by any means, but you don’t understand heroin addiction like an addict would.
If you’re on heroin, and your habit is more than your means, you will obtain money through illegal ways. Why is selling pussy better than getting over on people. I’d argue it’s not
@Moon Child on top of that with prostitution you don't take anything away from anyone and you don't make strangers sad nor cause harm. Armed robbery can traumatize someone or theft can destroy small businesses sooo I guess stealing is Def not the better way to get money.
@@queencheese3933 unless you got AIDS or an STD💁🏿♀️ I wouldn't call that a victimless crime. I never stole from friends when I was getting high, but then again I hate big corporations that mistreat their workers, so i felt ok stealing from large stores & shit. I wasn't that outta control tho. Moon Child's parents must be proud tho..
@@patrickcard2678 how'd that work out for you? I guess it's better than stealing someone's granny's pills, but probably super dangerous. But I guess when you're trying to get your next fix nothing else matters. I was locked up with a dude who got 2 years in prison for breaking into a store that sold "bath salts" (back when that shit was cool/popular i guess🙄) he broke in twice before he got caught. Bath salts ain't fun, idk why someone would risk their freedom for that shit, but to each their own. I try to keep my morals by not stealing from friends, or hooking out my gf or wife just to get my fix. The closest thing I got to hooking myself out was when a friend told a girl we went to school with that liked me "if you buy me a carton of smokes I'll hook you up with my friend", which she was all about. All I did was drink a 6 pack at her house, make out with her a bit and give her a slight fingering😒. I definitely felt dirty about doing that after, not to mention there was no financial gain or even personal gain from it for myself, but it was an experience I guess🤷🏿♀️and I'd never let myself be put inna situation like that again. Glad drugs aren't part of my life now, they weren't back then either, I suppose I was just a "good friend" and was too outgoing..whatevs
Jon Mess trolling the interviewer and starting that interview off with some sort of rant about philosophy that ultimately is just big words is the best part of the situation 😂 gotta love Jon
Literally yesterday I was watching the first part again and I was thinking "I wonder when part two is coming out". Just in time for dinner. Thank you sir!
The most I ever heard of the Johnny Craig situation was from Taylor Nicoles video so it's nice seeing things from a neutral point of view, really appreciate your work! Would love to see you do Issues/ Tyler Carter next!(:
After everything said and done, I’m just glad that you’re finally getting the recognition for the hard work that you put in on this channel regardless of the topics and situations talked about! You are a true journalist and you deserve nothing but the best my dude.
Hey Julian,I'm a nearly 60 yo musician,I fell into your channel by accident,but kept watching because you informed me of a scene I never knew existed.I find your breakdown of all the band's extremely knowledgeable and detailed.Keep doing it for the kids,even the old heads like me.Cheers CR.
@@JWLuiza Thank you sir.Julian knows his stuff and that impresses this old head.I was totally the same @21.The bonus is hearing a whole new scene I was unaware of.
And I do not feel bad about it. Dude pinned his ex down and acted like he was gonna shoot her up against her will until she started crying and screaming then he acted like it was all a joke. & Another ex he taped up her hands and legs and said "since everyone thinks I am a rapist I might as well be" annnnd as you can guess she started crying and screaming and he acted like it was all a joke. Dude is a total piece of shit. Look there aren't many people in this world who I would swing on the second I saw then. But jonny is definitely one.
I'd also like to add that I am a former heroin addict myself. So I understand. I never stole from my friends or family. I just about always had a job. I had a rough child hood which made me look for an escape I suppose and drugs were that and gradually tried harder and harder drugs and never got addicted to anything until heroin. I was in and out of treatment centers for about 5 years. I know have just under 3 years clean from everything except for 2-3 beers once every few months. Not very often. I do not like getting drunk or blacking out anymore. Once I got to know myself and love myself a lot. Since I did not really recurve that love as a kid I had to learn to love myself and that is what helped me not want drugs anymore. Anyways back to jonny. I do not believe he didn't know what he was doing or shit like that. I've been heavily on the same drug and you know what youre doing it's not like say a heavy black out from alcohol or xanax. I never stole from anyone luckily I never got to that point. I do not believe his BS though. He knew he could convince fans to send him money and in his delusional mind he thought he wouldn't get caught. Were not dealing with the smartest man ever here even when sober I would guess. But my point is do not accept the bs that oh I was high I didn't know what I was doing!! It's bullshit. You know what you're doing. Although maybe the dude goes manic when he uses drugs cuz I've heard stories of ppl walking in on him writing on walls with his own blood and totally being in a complete different world which even ppl extremely high on multiple drugs at once u do not see much. Don't let him off the hook. He deserves every bit of back lash. I believe that people change. But he's on his 1,000th chance and just cuz I believe in change doesn't mean I believe in just forgetting about their past. He did it. Hold him accountable. Imagine all the people who were prob young and didn't have much money and jonny fucked them. Imagine all the ppl who wanted to buy a Mac book for a friend as a gift. Then it never came. Drugs are no excuse. Of course I with he gets help and stays sober I wish that for everyone who is struggling. But that's his problem. Nobody else's. & Nobody is entitled to having to forgive him for going to treatment. I've seen jonny post a ton of things acting like ppl owe him forgiveness since he's clean. Nobody owes anyone anything. Hes manipulative and a manic POS from all of his exes and former friends stories. He needs to change. It's nobody else's problems and do not think all former addicts do the shit he did/does cuz we don't. You still have feelings and emotions and morals even when addicted to heroin. He CHOSE to take advantage and manipulate fans and for that I think he should have been canceled. He doesn't deserve the type of career most would call a dream career.
LOL SHE literally admitted to shooting up nefore they started dating.. man you guys literally eat up anything the “victims” say. And acting like vice is a credible and decent news medium is actually hilarious... she wasn’t famous for her youtube, she was famous for hoarding animals and them dying in her care and never hearing about certain reptiles again.
This is pure gold!!! I'm hooked on your channel! Thought it would be just one of those breezy overviews but nah! This is THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. That's real dedication 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Here we go! Dude, I love your channel so much, gotten me back into the old favorites and given me so many feelings of nostalgia. Any new podcast episodes coming out soon? Hope you're doing well man!
Agree will like to see that podcast but I also like the editing on the videos . Honestly been a big fan of all cozy videos this last 8 months I think he deserve donations this is the kind of TH-cam channel I been looking for so long
I'm in the "seeing your channel grow in real time" phase and I'm really enjoying it. Def deserve the recognition, I've shared your channel with friends that live music. Much love from Puerto Rico!
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah what didn't he do? Bruh was outta control on a lot of levels...racism, rape, assault...probably more than anyone knows. Not to mention the other buttrockers who fucked up & had their run-ins with the law and accidentally killed people.
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah that recent movie probably doesn't say much about what a pos he was, but he's pretty fucked up. Along with Steven Tyler, Vince Neil. Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Love this channel and this docuseries!! I had the exact same experience with DGD in my freshman year with DBM2 and I have always loved the dgd lore. You have done the best documentary on all of this of anyone and I love watching this and reliving those memories. Thank you so much, can't wait for part 3!!!
i might be the only person who feels this way, but it seems like Anthony Green is the only vocalist from this era to remain relevant, drama-free, and well-liked all these years later. i really do miss the late 2000s/early 2010's tho
it seems that my brain totally deleted 2010 , because from this channel i learned about popular musicians that i had never heard of before , thanks cozy representative , very cool
This series has boosted you to one of my top fave creator's. Brings me back to old TH-cam days when the creator's gave a damn and made actual quality content. Thanks man and keep up the good work.
I really love that you dove into your personal interpretation and how you experienced DGD in your early high school days. Even mentioning how weed played a part in how potent and special hearing dbm2 was for you. These subjective yet collective experiences we all have are truly special
Thank you so much for this documentary. I’ve always loved the scene, DGD, emarosa, and jonny Craig’s voice so this is cool to see all of the intricate details I’ve always wondered about
we grew up in the same scene and i love watching your videos. you are so easy to listen to and hang with for an hour. thanks for being so thorough, keep up the great work (:
For me it was in 8th grade with the victory records summer sampler. Right side of the bed by atreyu, smashes to pieces by Silverstein, Ohio is for lovers by Hawthorne heights, and masterpiece by bayside all on the same ride to school lol I had never heard anything that you wouldn’t hear on the radio and it changed my life forever
Man, I freaking love this type of content! I'm happy that someone took the time to piece all of this together for everyone to watch. You did a great job, man. I have never, ever, ever supported Jonny Craig. One of my childhood friends was in VersaEmerge and after going out on tour, he came back with horror stories about some of our "idols." One of them was Jonny Craig and he explained how just plain crooked the man was. I just couldn't support him. The only thing that I could get behind was Isles and Glaciers, because he was only a portion of what comprised that band. And when they failed to come up with a full album, I figured it was because of Jonny. Anyways, I'm looking forward to part 3! This is some epic stuff. And dude, if you need any ideas, I'd love to know the whole Copeland story or the issue that Brand New and Taking Back Sunday had back in the day (I think Adam slept with Jesse's girlfriend or something along those lines)!
This kind of music was never my favorite, but my best friend was in a band that played Warped Tour one year. I spent so much time at their gigs in small clubs basically as a roadie during their come-up that I grew to genuinely really enjoy it. Your videos take me back.
Cozy just know we love you and your commitment to a scene that shaped me into who I am today, I’m going on 30 and was a teenager in the midst of the warped tour era, your videos being back soo many wonderful memories and moments i had long but forgotten before your channel, From all of us, THANK YOU !
Dude, I'm loving this series! You always do an amazing job digging up this info, it takes me back.. Jonny Craig will always be my favorite vocalist, but I wish dude could just chill out. I don't wanna see him end up looking like one of those super burnt out old guys from the 80s.
Amazing vid as always man. I truly loved this one. My only criticism (which is few and far between because you go into such detail!) is I wish you would have gone into more about Jonny getting kicked from Emarosa because they said some NASTY stuff about him after that initial statement. Haha and I’m not referring to the Bradley stuff.
I got into DGD in 2011 also, just after the release of DBM2. What you were saying about listening to the album and having your perception of music being shattered was completely relatable. Hearing a song like "Heat Seeking Ghost of Sex" was so new to me (as did the rest of album). Thanks for making this vid bro, much appreciated.
My band Careless Sanctions opened for Slaves a while back and when I heard some rumblings about Johnny Craig, I got curious. I love the content of your channel. It’s really detailed and does an awesome job of establishing a timeline and storytelling. Glad the algorithm brought me to your channel!
you are seriously so amazing for being able to reach so deep into these bands pasts and provide discourse on how they fit into the greater context of the history of music i know how much work u must put into these vid thank u so much for your contributions :)
DBM2 was a really pivotal album for the band too. It almost could’ve been the last record they’ve ever done, and I think the fanbase at the time would’ve been satisfied.
This series has been crazy interesting. I was born and raised here in Sacramento. Throughout high school was always a DGD fan. I had heard plenty of stories about everything, online and through friends but never this in depth! Never knew so much happened and so close to home 😂 and I was also totally at that show you included the snippet of where they were playing at the Ace of Spades! Jesus. The nostalgia. Can't wait for part 3 lol
Still one of my favorite dgd songs! Actually I take that back it's so hard to decide which song is the best from there as someone who loves all 3 singers
@@nogrecords Without Chino's voice, the song wouldn't be what it is. The entire song is ear sex, but that ending man... all of the different set of lyrics being sung at the same time is amazing and gives me chills because of how beautifully chaotic it is.
I have been waiting for this as well. I grew up following all the ups and downs of Jonny Craig and other bands that I truly hope you have future videos about. So much content to be made on this stuff! Lol
Yay! Part two is finally here!!!!! And something tells me, based on the timestamps, that there's going to be a part three. Edit: was Jon high during that interview?!
Your channel is incredible. I feel like i'm hanging out with my buddy just talking about our favorite post-hardcore/emo bands together. There is something charming about the look of your videos. Like your face isn't blasted with unnatural light, it looks like you just flipped on a camera and were like "lets talk about this shit!" lol! much love dude.
Guilty of that, but I was proud of my emo-mullet. Girls, while i cant say they dug it, they at least found it interesting and helped breaked the ice. Miss that mullet
OMG Ive been waiting for thissss the first part got me back into DGD and Ive been listening to them everyday since that video . I think a video about DGD would be really interesting edit: just finished watching and im so excited for part 3, thats like hours of research youve been doing and honestly its really aprreciated thank you for the great content
Dude, impressive work. I've watched both parts with great interest and it was fun to hear about your introduction/obsession with the band. I had a similar obsession when I discovered them in March 2020 and just recently I got into DTBM2. It is definitely a great record! Can't wait for part 3 :)
Yeah so I dated a scene band vocalist for years. I remember going to warp tours and all other gigs. I remember meeting both the bands members lead by Jonny..but not him. He was just not there a lot. We would all hang out after shows and party together, but not him. He was known for the asshole drug addict who was insane. Not much else. It’s no wonder that a lot of the scene band members have such gross accusations against them. I can’t believe it took this long to get noticed by anyone. I mean EVERYONE heard rumors about everyone!! We all thought that Dahvie Vanity was such a pedo, but again, he was just not around a lot. When he was, it was quiet and tense. Ended the night when he came around. A lot of band members that you think you loved so much...smh horrible people. Can’t believe they’re not in prison by now.
He's truly had a stronger relationship with that mullet than he's had with any band he has been in
This is so funny
👏🤣
He gave Slaves 3 albums, DGD 2 albums, Emarosa 2 Albums. Plus is solo stuff and features. He’s fed us so stop complaining.
@@eldiablo4160nobody complaining. This was 3 years ago
I feel cozy. I feel represented. Mission: accomplished.
Fuck I ugly laughed xD this is my first time on this channel and I wholeheartedly agree
Pt1 came up on my suggested feed and I didn’t even know who Johnny Craig was. Now I have encyclopedic knowledge of this man haha
Ans you're here for pt 2 that's awesome!
Me too! & Dominic, ....me too!! Lololol
Sadistic intent profile pic for the win!
same here ;)
Same lol
the amazing part is there's still 9 years worth of fall to go after this.
Are you telling me this video is just about 2011 and 2011 alone 😱😱😱
@@Liminal-Galaxy-System6819 Yes
This scene history channel is getting pretty epic and dramatic, love it. Better than the shows in TLC and History Channel :v
I literally saw a SpongeBob “Aight I’mma head out“ meme the other day where it said
“When Jonny Craig’s new band starts to become successful“
Jonny: “Aight I’mma do heroin”
Anyway, love the videos man. Every single one of them is a huge dose of nostalgia
Jonny "just give me a chance" Craig
Jonny "Starving for friends (because I drove most of them away)" Craig
Jonny “The past is always coming up” Craig
Jonny "I'm still sober because I didnt shoot up I only smoked heroin" Craig 😂
Peter "What about my uncle? Did you give him a chance? Did you?" Parker
This took me out 💀💀💀
He is the reason I use PC instead of Mac
Jonny Craig: Voice of an angel, soul of a demon.
Lol I thought immediately about what they say about Chester of linkin park "sings like an angel and screams like a demon". How would one describe Oliver Sykes tho? honestly I wouldn't know how to do that at all especially when looking at his modern style / current evolution .
Honestly so sad that his voice is so good but that he’s such a horrible person lmao
@Yudairos Do you want to share your rationalization efforts on that please? Lmao.
That‘s what hard drugs (especially heroin) do to people.. probably hasn‘t always been a horrible person
Gingers don't have souls.
I am always surprised that his “vocal lesson” scam is never brought up... still owes me $200 for 4 lessons. Been 6 years. Even hit him up recently about it and still no results. Just funny at this point
jackiemoon12341 you didn’t see this coming?😂
Keith Craig I am a full time musician in many different genres and take it extremely seriously. Thought it would be a good opportunity to learn more about the style of singing I e been working on for 10 years. . Had a feeling it might happen. However, you miss 100% of the chances you don’t take.
Are you not the dummy for falling for it? Oh no.... Of course not.....
jackiemoon12341 understandable. I don’t blame you. Hearing a voice as good as his who wouldn’t wanna sound like Jonny? Damn I even wish I could sing like him just for my own pleasure. But I wouldn’t trust Jonny with a one dollar bill lol.
@@exteeriority4349 One of the most important points here is that it wasn't Jackie's job to look out for herself in this situation. Jonny was the famous entity, with an extensive fan base, with a very high level of influence over his fans, and a very high level of trust that they felt towards him simply because of his position, and look what he did with it and look what he did to her (and not only her).
Jonny wasn't just another acquaintance that she should have scoffed at the idea of giving money to. He was supposed to be an idol and an example as he attempted to portray himself as, and arrogantly allowed himself to feel and believe that he was. In reality, he was/is a manipulator, a crook, a fraud, a thief, a toxic human and entity, an addict, and just a bad human-being in general. He took advantage of his fans and the people around him, and I'm sure that he still does. So don't make this about Jackie and how she wasn't "wise enough" to know better at the time, especially because she was probably a young and impressionable person when Jonny took advantage of her and scammed her. The girl wanted to better her life, career, and skills, and Jonny helped to deprive her of that by leading her on and taking money from her that wasn't his, all in the name of getting some more heroin. He's a pristine example of how shitty people should not be given fame, popularity, or the power of influence. The worst part is its all because the dude sings well. Most people fail to realize that if you take lessons and dedicate enough time to it, most people can end up just as good as Jonny Craig. And with that being said, you realize how singing well really just doesn't make you that special in reality.
And honestly dude, your blame-shifting comment makes me think that you're probably not that much different than him when it comes down to it.
Jon Mess is on a whole different level when it comes to dissing people. 🤣
LOL, “I think the better question is does Jonny have enough stories to make a movie out of and sell? The answer is yes and it will be $19.95”. Slow 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
“Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?” - Jon Mess (2011)
They say Tillian was formed on a canvas made of 847 bald eagles Jon conjured himself because he felt the population of Earth was too weak to fill Jonny Craig’s shoes.
Fuckin facts 😂😂
IKR LOLLL
I am in no way defending what Jonny Craig did. But I have been addicted to the same stuff and it changes who you are as a person and you become soulless shell with one mission. Get more junk, no matter the cost. That does not absolve him in any way for the shitty things he's done along the way, though I do understand. Hope everyone is doing well.
I respect you for your admission.
@ScottKipple this is all very true. Being dopesick is a nightmare.
Addiction is a horrible disease and this is an important point, but there's definitely something to be said about his character. Anthony Green is a junkie and even relapsed recently, but he's still beloved and an overall good guy by most people's accounts.
Lol Jonny was a nutcase before he ever did heroin
Yeah, especially heroin & crack make you go crazy. And it's not like you're 'out of it' every time, especially when you're a long time user. It's more the not getting sick thing that's going in then. So yeah, you can scam multiple people.
And he's a shithead who uses people none the less. He doesn't want to get better I think. He's given up so he's like fuck it and fuck everyone, let's use.
Jonny got replaced by Tilian in two different bands lmao
Wait, what other band did Tilian replace johny in, besides dgd?
Matthew Phillip Prater Tilian stood in for Emarosa when they dumped Johnny.
thefactanonverba gotcha thanks
Jonny still outshines him
Josh Torres maybe so vocally, because Jonny is very talented but he ruins it for himself every time. He’s wasted his own potential.
You really have the most natural talent for storytelling! Your enthusiasm and attitude is super contagious, and the content is educational enough to be a university course.
I'VE NEVER CLICKED ON SOMETHING SO FAST!!
Same!
Actually yesterday I was listening to Pierce the veil she makes dirty feat. Johnny Craig is just a really underrated collaboration of Vic and Johnny ♥️
one of my all time faves
I still listen to it alll the time 🥰
I think they actually took that one down from spotify.
I still make jokes about the MacBook situation even though nobody ever knows what I’m referencing.
I feel this spiritually its nice to know I'm not alone
26:30 this made me violently burst out laughing. The thought of Jon and Jonny silently skyping sign language with each other is hilarious. I'm 99.9% sure Jon's answers are deliberately as ridiculous as possible.
I think he just likes to say everything as ridiculously and opaquely as possible (if his lyrics are any indication)
yay i was so excited for this!!! i can’t imagine that it was easy to collect all this info and organize it into such a cohesive video, so i really appreciate it!
thank you! :)
As someone who was 22 when you were 14, i appreciate your love for and knowledge of these bands, and really enjoy the depth and detail you’ve put into telling this story. Kudos man.
Honestly man, I'd love to see more on Jon Mess if you can't find enough
I have been clean from heroin for 4 years, and I can say when you’re high and you scam someone successfully, then you continue to do what works. Also when you have the drug in your system, negative consequences aren’t even a thought. That drug is more important than literally anything. I’m not defending him by any means, but you don’t understand heroin addiction like an addict would.
If you’re on heroin, and your habit is more than your means, you will obtain money through illegal ways. Why is selling pussy better than getting over on people. I’d argue it’s not
I broke in the same pharmacy 3 times, but I can look myself in the mirror and forgive myself. If I suck dick for money idk if I could
@Moon Child on top of that with prostitution you don't take anything away from anyone and you don't make strangers sad nor cause harm. Armed robbery can traumatize someone or theft can destroy small businesses sooo I guess stealing is Def not the better way to get money.
@@queencheese3933 unless you got AIDS or an STD💁🏿♀️ I wouldn't call that a victimless crime. I never stole from friends when I was getting high, but then again I hate big corporations that mistreat their workers, so i felt ok stealing from large stores & shit. I wasn't that outta control tho. Moon Child's parents must be proud tho..
@@patrickcard2678 how'd that work out for you? I guess it's better than stealing someone's granny's pills, but probably super dangerous. But I guess when you're trying to get your next fix nothing else matters. I was locked up with a dude who got 2 years in prison for breaking into a store that sold "bath salts" (back when that shit was cool/popular i guess🙄) he broke in twice before he got caught. Bath salts ain't fun, idk why someone would risk their freedom for that shit, but to each their own. I try to keep my morals by not stealing from friends, or hooking out my gf or wife just to get my fix. The closest thing I got to hooking myself out was when a friend told a girl we went to school with that liked me "if you buy me a carton of smokes I'll hook you up with my friend", which she was all about. All I did was drink a 6 pack at her house, make out with her a bit and give her a slight fingering😒. I definitely felt dirty about doing that after, not to mention there was no financial gain or even personal gain from it for myself, but it was an experience I guess🤷🏿♀️and I'd never let myself be put inna situation like that again. Glad drugs aren't part of my life now, they weren't back then either, I suppose I was just a "good friend" and was too outgoing..whatevs
I never comment on TH-cam videos but I've been waiting so LONG for this omg!!! I'm so ready for this!
We all been waiting for this 🤟🏻♥️
DYING over that jon mess interview
Jon Mess trolling the interviewer and starting that interview off with some sort of rant about philosophy that ultimately is just big words is the best part of the situation 😂 gotta love Jon
Literally yesterday I was watching the first part again and I was thinking "I wonder when part two is coming out".
Just in time for dinner. Thank you sir!
Same I need to watch first part again
The most I ever heard of the Johnny Craig situation was from Taylor Nicoles video so it's nice seeing things from a neutral point of view, really appreciate your work! Would love to see you do Issues/ Tyler Carter next!(:
Woe is me and issues would be a great mini doc
Yes!!! I used to love Woe Is Me and Issues!
Kurts interview made me wanna cry :(. Met him at DGDs 10 year anniversary tour in Sac. He was super nice.
After everything said and done, I’m just glad that you’re finally getting the recognition for the hard work that you put in on this channel regardless of the topics and situations talked about! You are a true journalist and you deserve nothing but the best my dude.
Hey Julian,I'm a nearly 60 yo musician,I fell into your channel by accident,but kept watching because you informed me of a scene I never knew existed.I find your breakdown of all the band's extremely knowledgeable and detailed.Keep doing it for the kids,even the old heads like me.Cheers CR.
Nice comment sir. 42 so in I am older in this scene. Glad you appreciate this young man’s work!
@@JWLuiza Thank you sir.Julian knows his stuff and that impresses this old head.I was totally the same @21.The bonus is hearing a whole new scene I was unaware of.
"The Rise And Fall Of Johnny Craig Pt 1 and 2" sound like WISIRO/DBM song titles
Damn Mod Sun knows every single person in like all of LA
I love these. You should do Anthony Green
Man, I laid in bed to go to sleep early, but you dropped this on me! Made my night! I really appreciate the time you put into these... amazing.
I once got into an argument with Johnny craig on IG and he blocked me. Lmao
what was it about
Don’t leave us hanging, details please!
@@DemBlox Telling him he was a piece of shit. He didn't take it so well
And I do not feel bad about it. Dude pinned his ex down and acted like he was gonna shoot her up against her will until she started crying and screaming then he acted like it was all a joke. & Another ex he taped up her hands and legs and said "since everyone thinks I am a rapist I might as well be" annnnd as you can guess she started crying and screaming and he acted like it was all a joke. Dude is a total piece of shit. Look there aren't many people in this world who I would swing on the second I saw then. But jonny is definitely one.
I'd also like to add that I am a former heroin addict myself. So I understand. I never stole from my friends or family. I just about always had a job. I had a rough child hood which made me look for an escape I suppose and drugs were that and gradually tried harder and harder drugs and never got addicted to anything until heroin. I was in and out of treatment centers for about 5 years. I know have just under 3 years clean from everything except for 2-3 beers once every few months. Not very often. I do not like getting drunk or blacking out anymore. Once I got to know myself and love myself a lot. Since I did not really recurve that love as a kid I had to learn to love myself and that is what helped me not want drugs anymore. Anyways back to jonny. I do not believe he didn't know what he was doing or shit like that. I've been heavily on the same drug and you know what youre doing it's not like say a heavy black out from alcohol or xanax. I never stole from anyone luckily I never got to that point. I do not believe his BS though. He knew he could convince fans to send him money and in his delusional mind he thought he wouldn't get caught. Were not dealing with the smartest man ever here even when sober I would guess. But my point is do not accept the bs that oh I was high I didn't know what I was doing!! It's bullshit. You know what you're doing. Although maybe the dude goes manic when he uses drugs cuz I've heard stories of ppl walking in on him writing on walls with his own blood and totally being in a complete different world which even ppl extremely high on multiple drugs at once u do not see much. Don't let him off the hook. He deserves every bit of back lash. I believe that people change. But he's on his 1,000th chance and just cuz I believe in change doesn't mean I believe in just forgetting about their past. He did it. Hold him accountable. Imagine all the people who were prob young and didn't have much money and jonny fucked them. Imagine all the ppl who wanted to buy a Mac book for a friend as a gift. Then it never came. Drugs are no excuse. Of course I with he gets help and stays sober I wish that for everyone who is struggling. But that's his problem. Nobody else's. & Nobody is entitled to having to forgive him for going to treatment. I've seen jonny post a ton of things acting like ppl owe him forgiveness since he's clean. Nobody owes anyone anything. Hes manipulative and a manic POS from all of his exes and former friends stories. He needs to change. It's nobody else's problems and do not think all former addicts do the shit he did/does cuz we don't. You still have feelings and emotions and morals even when addicted to heroin. He CHOSE to take advantage and manipulate fans and for that I think he should have been canceled. He doesn't deserve the type of career most would call a dream career.
The Jon Mess interview is hilarious
Right dude I literally snort laughed. Fucking muted Skype sign language calls. 😂😂😂💀
I knew there had to be a part 3 when we hadn't got close to Jonny turning his famous youtube GF into a junkie and VICE making a documentary about it
Exactly! Lol
She admitted she was heavily addicted to cocaine before him though. Those 2 were absolutely twin trash flames 😬😂
LOL SHE literally admitted to shooting up nefore they started dating.. man you guys literally eat up anything the “victims” say. And acting like vice is a credible and decent news medium is actually hilarious... she wasn’t famous for her youtube, she was famous for hoarding animals and them dying in her care and never hearing about certain reptiles again.
Calm down, Tomi Lahren
@@NickWeirGUITARIST fr lol
This is pure gold!!! I'm hooked on your channel! Thought it would be just one of those breezy overviews but nah! This is THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. That's real dedication 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Dude Will Swan is an F'ing beast. He's a super underrated guitarist
I had never listened to downtown battle mountain until I watched part 1 and I am so thankful I went and listened to it. You are also adorable.
Ahhh! A Part 2 already?! You're out here grinding. This guy is going to make vague instagram stories about you haha
Here we go! Dude, I love your channel so much, gotten me back into the old favorites and given me so many feelings of nostalgia. Any new podcast episodes coming out soon? Hope you're doing well man!
Agree will like to see that podcast but I also like the editing on the videos . Honestly been a big fan of all cozy videos this last 8 months I think he deserve donations this is the kind of TH-cam channel I been looking for so long
Jonny writes music about not letting the fans down again, immediately proceeds to let the fans down again.
I'm in the "seeing your channel grow in real time" phase and I'm really enjoying it. Def deserve the recognition, I've shared your channel with friends that live music.
Much love from Puerto Rico!
I would love to see a "The story of Anthony Green" from you!
Johnny Craig is the typical rockstar of the 1980's, but in the modern day, which doesn't work so well unfortunately for him 😅
Tommy Lee & the rest of them buttrockers got away with a LOT more. I'm not in anyway dismissing Jonny's behavior, but your point is valid.
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah what didn't he do? Bruh was outta control on a lot of levels...racism, rape, assault...probably more than anyone knows. Not to mention the other buttrockers who fucked up & had their run-ins with the law and accidentally killed people.
@Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah that recent movie probably doesn't say much about what a pos he was, but he's pretty fucked up. Along with Steven Tyler, Vince Neil. Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Blue Dream was the song that changed me. It still makes me feel all fuzzy n shit. Favorite album of DGD hands down
Blue dream is awesome!
same!! it’s my favorite song and i feel like it’s so underrated
Love this channel and this docuseries!! I had the exact same experience with DGD in my freshman year with DBM2 and I have always loved the dgd lore. You have done the best documentary on all of this of anyone and I love watching this and reliving those memories. Thank you so much, can't wait for part 3!!!
i might be the only person who feels this way, but it seems like Anthony Green is the only vocalist from this era to remain relevant, drama-free, and well-liked all these years later. i really do miss the late 2000s/early 2010's tho
What about Thomas Erak?
@@elijahwhipple8031 true
@@Saiyamanmc Craig owens?
@@elijahwhipple8031dude is mumbling ex heroin addict
@@Esheezy69heroin addict
it seems that my brain totally deleted 2010 , because from this channel i learned about popular musicians that i had never heard of before , thanks cozy representative , very cool
This series has boosted you to one of my top fave creator's. Brings me back to old TH-cam days when the creator's gave a damn and made actual quality content. Thanks man and keep up the good work.
Yeah Dez
I really love that you dove into your personal interpretation and how you experienced DGD in your early high school days. Even mentioning how weed played a part in how potent and special hearing dbm2 was for you. These subjective yet collective experiences we all have are truly special
Biggest waste of talent I ever done saw
Thank you so much for this documentary. I’ve always loved the scene, DGD, emarosa, and jonny Craig’s voice so this is cool to see all of the intricate details I’ve always wondered about
Hard to find a more talented vocalist than prime mullet Jonny Craig
we grew up in the same scene and i love watching your videos. you are so easy to listen to and hang with for an hour. thanks for being so thorough, keep up the great work (:
I love your voice and especially your laugh. Very great series. Couldn’t sleep last night and watched the whole thing! Yay!😂
Can’t sleep again, again watching the series.😂
That same mind bending musical awakening you talk about in your video happened to me too in 8th grade with Deja Entendu. I totally get what you meant.
Kirk Stoner It happened to me in 6th grad with “Nevermind.”
For me it was in 8th grade with the victory records summer sampler. Right side of the bed by atreyu, smashes to pieces by Silverstein, Ohio is for lovers by Hawthorne heights, and masterpiece by bayside all on the same ride to school lol I had never heard anything that you wouldn’t hear on the radio and it changed my life forever
I had a very similar experience with The Fall of Troy’s Doppelgänger the summer before my freshman year. I’ve never been the same lol.
@@Jmack7861 I loved that sampler!
No one:
No one at all:
Jonny: TAAAAAIIIIILLLLLLLOOOOORRRREEEDDD SHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTSSSSS
Man, I freaking love this type of content! I'm happy that someone took the time to piece all of this together for everyone to watch. You did a great job, man. I have never, ever, ever supported Jonny Craig. One of my childhood friends was in VersaEmerge and after going out on tour, he came back with horror stories about some of our "idols." One of them was Jonny Craig and he explained how just plain crooked the man was. I just couldn't support him. The only thing that I could get behind was Isles and Glaciers, because he was only a portion of what comprised that band. And when they failed to come up with a full album, I figured it was because of Jonny. Anyways, I'm looking forward to part 3! This is some epic stuff. And dude, if you need any ideas, I'd love to know the whole Copeland story or the issue that Brand New and Taking Back Sunday had back in the day (I think Adam slept with Jesse's girlfriend or something along those lines)!
“My new best friend, marijuana”🤣 I FELT THAT😂
same
Y’all niggas don’t really be blowing smoking on some gmo bookies
🤣🤣🤣
The fact you read each subsequent update to the article is true journalism. Thank you for your hard work!
Haha, The Cozy Representative Baby,
THE RISE AND FALL OF JOHNNY CRAIG PART TWOOOOOOO~~
LOL
Underrated comment.
@@DudeCalledDibs thank u, i am to please
Lol that song bangs hard, man.
Knocked it out of the park again dude! Well worth the wait.
But can I just say I miss the beard...
Been waiting for this video for several weeks!
This kind of music was never my favorite, but my best friend was in a band that played Warped Tour one year. I spent so much time at their gigs in small clubs basically as a roadie during their come-up that I grew to genuinely really enjoy it. Your videos take me back.
That’s the cleanest, most wrinkle free t-shirt I’ve ever seen.
This has been great, part 1 was awesome and so was part 2. Can't wait for part 3! Keep up the good work man!
Been waiting for this!!! Thanks bro!
Cozy just know we love you and your commitment to a scene that shaped me into who I am today, I’m going on 30 and was a teenager in the midst of the warped tour era, your videos being back soo many wonderful memories and moments i had long but forgotten before your channel, From all of us, THANK YOU !
Yusss I’ve been waiting for this!
Ya know what I love about your vids? I feel like I’m watching them in 2008
I love how these are so appropriately titled "pt 1" and "pt 2" lol nice
Dude, I'm loving this series! You always do an amazing job digging up this info, it takes me back.. Jonny Craig will always be my favorite vocalist, but I wish dude could just chill out. I don't wanna see him end up looking like one of those super burnt out old guys from the 80s.
Amazing vid as always man. I truly loved this one. My only criticism (which is few and far between because you go into such detail!) is I wish you would have gone into more about Jonny getting kicked from Emarosa because they said some NASTY stuff about him after that initial statement. Haha and I’m not referring to the Bradley stuff.
Do u have link? I'm curious
I got into DGD in 2011 also, just after the release of DBM2. What you were saying about listening to the album and having your perception of music being shattered was completely relatable. Hearing a song like "Heat Seeking Ghost of Sex" was so new to me (as did the rest of album). Thanks for making this vid bro, much appreciated.
I really need you to do a vid about Say Anything now.
My band Careless Sanctions opened for Slaves a while back and when I heard some rumblings about Johnny Craig, I got curious. I love the content of your channel. It’s really detailed and does an awesome job of establishing a timeline and storytelling. Glad the algorithm brought me to your channel!
Also I had no idea tilian filled in for jonny on an emarosa tour. I love learning new shit like this
you are seriously so amazing for being able to reach so deep into these bands pasts and provide discourse on how they fit into the greater context of the history of music i know how much work u must put into these vid thank u so much for your contributions :)
DBM2 was a really pivotal album for the band too. It almost could’ve been the last record they’ve ever done, and I think the fanbase at the time would’ve been satisfied.
I’ve never been more excited for an upload. Thank you my good sir much love.
I remember walking to marching band practice when that Alt Press article dropped
This series has been crazy interesting. I was born and raised here in Sacramento. Throughout high school was always a DGD fan. I had heard plenty of stories about everything, online and through friends but never this in depth! Never knew so much happened and so close to home 😂 and I was also totally at that show you included the snippet of where they were playing at the Ace of Spades! Jesus. The nostalgia. Can't wait for part 3 lol
Chino moreno And Kurt Travis the perfect song collab on caviar
Caviar is my favorite DGD song.
Still one of my favorite dgd songs! Actually I take that back it's so hard to decide which song is the best from there as someone who loves all 3 singers
What!?!? Chino is my favorite singer! (don't tell Anthony Green! LOLOL) how have I never heard of this song!??!!!???!??
@@nogrecords Without Chino's voice, the song wouldn't be what it is. The entire song is ear sex, but that ending man... all of the different set of lyrics being sung at the same time is amazing and gives me chills because of how beautifully chaotic it is.
It's amazing that you can make these videos so long and you still got so much more to go lol These are dope! Thanks for the nostalgia.
That's how it happens though, you hear one DGD album, the next thing you know you're spiraling down the discography. lmao
I have been waiting for this as well. I grew up following all the ups and downs of Jonny Craig and other bands that I truly hope you have future videos about. So much content to be made on this stuff! Lol
Yay! Part two is finally here!!!!! And something tells me, based on the timestamps, that there's going to be a part three.
Edit: was Jon high during that interview?!
My theory is that he didn't want to/couldn't talk about much about the situation for legal reasons. So he just gave nonsensical answers to troll.
@@SkyCityMusicAZ that makes sense.
Thats literally what happened
I thought they were some of his song lyrics
@@KingdomHeart556 that makes sense. He does write some pretty wacky lyrics.
Your channel is incredible. I feel like i'm hanging out with my buddy just talking about our favorite post-hardcore/emo bands together. There is something charming about the look of your videos. Like your face isn't blasted with unnatural light, it looks like you just flipped on a camera and were like "lets talk about this shit!" lol! much love dude.
Now I know why people were rocking mullets in high school.
Guilty of that, but I was proud of my emo-mullet. Girls, while i cant say they dug it, they at least found it interesting and helped breaked the ice. Miss that mullet
OMG Ive been waiting for thissss
the first part got me back into DGD and Ive been listening to them everyday since that video . I think a video about DGD would be really interesting
edit: just finished watching and im so excited for part 3, thats like hours of research youve been doing and honestly its really aprreciated thank you for the great content
I appreciate how you don't deny that Jonny has an absolutely incredible, unique, powerful, dynamic, beautiful voice
Dude, impressive work. I've watched both parts with great interest and it was fun to hear about your introduction/obsession with the band. I had a similar obsession when I discovered them in March 2020 and just recently I got into DTBM2. It is definitely a great record!
Can't wait for part 3 :)
OH ITS HAPPENING. PART TWO IS HERE IM EXCITED
I will never get over the amount your videos bring me back. Keep up the hard work dude!!
And please consider a video on title fight 🥺
Still waiting on a topic video about Tyler Carter with Woe Is Me and ISSUES.
Omg so much thos!
Chris Woodard I hope this comes soon!
Looks like he'll need more time with all that new info from last week
Jeff Perusse Definitely man I’m still in shock that he was kicked out the band. But rightfully so
Every time you mention a song that I forgot about, I immediately go and listen to it.
Yeah so I dated a scene band vocalist for years. I remember going to warp tours and all other gigs. I remember meeting both the bands members lead by Jonny..but not him. He was just not there a lot. We would all hang out after shows and party together, but not him. He was known for the asshole drug addict who was insane. Not much else. It’s no wonder that a lot of the scene band members have such gross accusations against them. I can’t believe it took this long to get noticed by anyone. I mean EVERYONE heard rumors about everyone!! We all thought that Dahvie Vanity was such a pedo, but again, he was just not around a lot. When he was, it was quiet and tense. Ended the night when he came around. A lot of band members that you think you loved so much...smh horrible people. Can’t believe they’re not in prison by now.
Thot groupie
Please tell more!
Which vocalist???
Had to stop watching another video once I got the notification for this. Thank you for this! I absolutely LOVE your personality and your videos!