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The far left likes to play pretend too much. The widest thing is they want to seemingly just erase women in anything physical. They even have biological male athletes competing in women's leagues and outcompeting them. Not to mention relationship "advice" that leads to women losing good relationships for the mob mentality of the political crud. I'm surprised they haven't tried to say Marylin Monroe is a man yet.
There is an old article I saw which you might enjoy. It is of an anthropologist, Laura Bohannan, who tried explaining Hamlet to an African tribe. It gives a pretty good example of what one probably should expect when trying to compare radically different cultures. ie, Hamlet had no business trying to quiet his father's ghost and should have instead gone to his uncle and dropped it in his lap. Oh, and the social customs of the uncle having to wait to marry his brother's widow were really stupid.
Society is at its breaking point, its now very obvious that there is no path towards reconciliation with the two sides- the left has totally and completely gone insane.
There is a woman, she was "trans", and a Historian. She transitioned to a man and then back again. She was married and had children. She also said in her lectures, that there is a correlation between homosexuality and the fall of almost every civilization in human history. I forget her name, but she is well known. So, if you did any kind of research, you would probably find her pretty quick.
Or...in this culture the stereotypical Woman knows how to fight, hunt anf other tasks. And that the "Hyper" feminine image stems from diffrent cultures and points in time. From times where dollification and other such practices occured that put all manual labour on men. And women only cooked and cleaned. Or they just had to lool nice as part of a harem. For Norse culture this is normal. This is "Stereotypical" Norse.
Yeah, I feel the same sense of weirdness in this. While they say (and possibly believe) that they are breaking narrow-minded ideas of gender roles, what they are actually doing by this is binding sexes to very narrow roles of their own making, deviation from which they then immediately label as trans. Then again, perhaps it's intentional: if you only accept as a man a full bearded lumberjack who drinks cheap beer and fights bears a a hobby, of course you'll end up seeing vast majority of guys as trans!
Exactly. They regularly legions of Victory motorcycles to give their horses much needed breaks after big battles. Because the nearest Harley shop was too far away.
I mean, they are also trying to erase women today. The whole reason the terf movement came about was because women's spaces were being converted into transwomen's spaces. Just look how many transwomen have completely wiped out women in athletic competitions.
@@cp1cupcake While I don't agree with historical inaccuracies such as this one, including trans women in the present in women spaces is not erasing women. Expanding the definition of "woman" is not bad, it's just that we are in the middle of the process, so obviously certain issues such as trans women in sports are still being worked on. It's also less common than whatever media you consume makes you believe.
at least in viking times. More modern plate armor might look different to accomodate boobs but for anything in that period? Armor is armor. Or did they literally find the biking chain armor ^^
@@totalutilitarian3292 there was only cabin mail armor at that time all over Europe plate armor was very rare at the time even a sword was not a common everyday carry I will say swords are not as rare as they say but plate armor is all but unheard of chain mail is flexible and only needed to be adjusted to how low the armor will reach the lowest we found was the knees
@@HeathenDance Yeah, we need to let as many people know about how stupid this historical revionist BS is. It stands in the way of anything honest and thought-provoking
@@noxplay4906 It's the opposite. It's the classic feeding of the troll. These decadent agendas depend on conflict, polarity and negativity. It's their fuel. That's how they keep themselves together. The same logic brought Nazis to power, actually. As for the Woke Movement, if people had stopped giving them attention, specially on-line, where almost everyone is addicted to dramatism and show-off, the woke movement had died years ago. But let's face it, even those who are against this, have a blast engaging in this fight. People get bored, spend too much time on-line, and it's always a pretext for feeling revolted, making another joke, and feeling good about themselves.
It astounds me how much woke people actually hate gender equality. "A woman did something we think of as masculine in the modern day? Well that's because she's actually a man!" Total insanity
@@kevintanza6968 he lived it. Orwell was a socialist who fought in the Spanish Civil War--until the communists turned on the socialists for not being "pure" enough. And as they say, history repeats itself.
At this point, 'transphobic' means you disagree with a transperson. It could be about the best ice cream flavor--if you disagree, you're a transphobe. 🙄
I feel like I’ve washed up on an island refuge in a sea of madness. Thank you for being as open and unbiased in your process as possible. You are right. we NEED channels like this. You make me feel less insane.
I really don't understand this assumption being made by people today that a woman who behaves more masculine must be gay and or trans. I have a very dear friend who is a beautiful woman, married happily for 40 years to a man, and she just retired as a Colonel in the military. She camps, hikes, rides a motorcycle, works out, usually wears pants and has shorter hair... But she also cooks, cleans house, sews, knits, raised a daughter... She's straight, Cis and just an all around very balanced human being. Why on Earth can't we be okay with that for women?
Tomboy erasure, is what it is. A woman can be rugged and handy and capable and strong (or at least stronger than most women) and still confidently exist as a woman in her woman's body without anxiety. The American frontierswoman being a proper historical example (with plenty of documentation). These women could chop firewood, shoot a rifle, haul heavy pales of water, and knew how to make a fist without breaking their thumbs. They were also proud mothers and wives. Analogous women are also among the Mongols and rural women in Russia and China and a ton of other cultures - modern, historical, and in between. No need to make every tough woman "trans". It's so weird.
I like to think these "historians" realized that making Elagabalus a trans icon wasn't a very bright idea, so they just moved on to the next historical era for their agenda...I mean, research 😅
@@amyb.6368 Dear god, why did you have to remind me of that? My blood boils anytime any of this ludicrous nonsense tries to get their hands on Jeanne d'Arc, like a couple years ago how a poster of a supposed movie depicted her as black. I'll be honest, I don't want Metatron to make videos about her on things like this. I don't want him and me especially to lose even more braincells 😂
@@utredmaethor769more like, if it were not for Christ, by now the whole world would be impaling themselves while they sing satanic music and eat alive all opposition and burning their children and having millions gather for a annual festival of fornication on top of the Empire State Building while they execute thousands of dogs in crates and feed them to demons and I WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING WORSE BECAUSE YOU GET THE PICTURE.
I’m transgender and I was once a history major. I always I roll my eyes when I come across such articles. As Carl Sagan well said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Thank you for your honest pursuit and exposure of the evidence-based truth. Thank you also for acknowledging the harsh reality of those who, like me, suffer from gender dysphoria. Before I learned the vocabulary to understand and explain my condition, I just felt the excruciating incongruence between my mind and body, but I wouldn’t have made bold claims like those seen in these articles. I have followed and admired your work for a while now, and continue to learn from you every time.
I'm trans as well and while I don't have any formal education in history I am a massive nerd so I very much feel the same when I come across stuff like this.
The sad thing is; when these so-called Historians re-evaluate through their skewed, ‘modern’ lens, they glut the system with so much idiocy and fallacy that they leave no room for true historical figures who could be studied and appreciated!
Norse women did protect their homes from barbarians and neighbour pillagers when their men needed elsewhere. Who's to say she wasn't buried with a shield and sword because she showed clear bravery for her village? Just edited in as I have read further upon about this grave: There's a theory that she was married to a highly ranked general who then passed away and she took his role. For a Widow, especially a wealthy one to take her late husband's role was seen and respected.
Good point. Also, while it may have been more common among them (meaning they'd potentially be more prepared), due to how they handled war or battle, it's ultimately true for all people who've faced war at home. There were many female French partisans in WWII. Why? because a lot of men had been killed, and they wanted to defend and free their homes from the Nazi occupation as much as everyone else. Just because war is the "business" of men doesn't mean that all the women are going to lay down and die if their village is attacked.
They didn't really protect their villages because women are biologically much weaker. Besides legends there is no proof of women warriors. When losing a battle and being invaded it was more likely for Germanic women to take their own lives
Some of it might be cultural, but there have been a number of women who have taken up arms, usually I think to defend their home (I am using that as city/town/villiage not as state). One of the funnier things I always notice when activists throught out historical figures as examples is how much they go for populatity instead of accuracy. As an example, they would use Joan of Arc as an example of a French warrior woman instead of Jeanne Hachette. While the latter was only in a single battle defending her city, my understanding is that she was involved in a lot more than Joan was in any given battle, like actually taking up arms, running into the frontline, and killing people. Similarly, I think all of the accounts I have heard of with shieldmaidens fighting, it was either a group which lost (ie, they were desperate enough to let anyone in to try and swell their numbers) or women defending the city they lived in.
@@starfox300 Of course they did. In Norse culture, women took care of her village. The house, the farm and families. Thats why she was buried with the key to their home. Warrior is a broad title that where commonly given to men. Not confirmation there were no women who protected their homes.
If a woman doing traditionally male tasks makes them "men in women's bodies" doesn't that prove their own misogynistic beliefs? It seems less about men and women and more about glorifying violence and suppression over compassion and freedom. ("Masculine" & "feminine" traits)
In some cultures, there is a custom of women assuming male roles and even wearing male clothes. For example - balkan tribal communities in Montenegro and Albania. However, they are still what they are - WOMEN acting like men, not transgender men.
I stumbled onto this channel this morning...I'm so glad I did, absolutely enlightening sense of objectivity and honesty, as well as truth! Thank you for the specificity and commitment to being accurate and not just popular like so many others! Much love from NC, U.S.!!!
Trying to say the Norse cross dressed is hilarious. The worst insults for men was being called a woman. A man or woman could divorce their spouse for cross dressing. Not to mention how hyper masculine the culture was.
Me being sarcastic: Technically, I guess, you could say that some of the slavic men who were to be sold into slavery in Muslim lands had their manhood cut... yeah, so you could argue that there where trans people in medieval era. /s
The transexual viking article is probably one of the most misogynistic shit I ever read lmao. The whole argument being "Oh look, there were women that did male expected tasks, that must mean they identified as men" is crazy 💀 and it bothers me a lot. So many strong women that fought during those hard times just for some random dude to say they were trans man 😭
which implies the article was probably not written by a trans person at all, but by a bad activist or someone who purposefully wants to make us look bad; aka. a troll
or a woman did have to do "masculine" things, because her husband, was on a viking raid/trade expression. She need to defend the homestead, and bring the family's case in trade and politics disputes.
@@kirgan1000 Exactly, that was certainly fairy common during war time and most of women probably did that type of "male" tasks. Still, there were also a lot of female warriors. Of course they were infrequent proportionally to the amount of men that were in war, but not rare. For example; there was a Spanish Knight order during the Reconquista entirely made of women called the "Order of Hatchet".
@@chibibeetle I agree, It could just be a bad activist or a trans person that simply is an idiot and a wrong example of the community. But what I am sure is that it is not a Troll. In the internet I have seen lots of stupid things said from diverse topics that are certainly far worse than this and they weren't being satirical so x)
@@ChihiroOfAstora Did not know about "Order of Hatchet" it was a interesting reading. In Sweden did have a "rote" system, then 10 farmers did support a professional soldier, that did work on the soldiers farm, then he was training or out in war. In almost every war, one wife (or more) chose to follow her husband to war, then to be separated. She was disguised as a man, but it was a open secret within the battalion, and was send home if a officer was "forced" to notice it. The most (in)famous did take command (on a small ship) after the officers was killed in combat, and was made honorary Capten, and was given a pension. But that was only a handful, out of tens of thousands of soldiers
It's like these people have never read about Shield Maidens, have never read about Norse culture, or have never seen the barely historically accurate show Vikings.
@Simple-xo1jj You should probably read some archaeological records regarding Shield-Maidens and female warrior burials across the Norse world. There are also a number of both Norse and Roman sources talking about female warriors.
@1Flagwaver that's bull my dude, it's a feminist archeologist that invented norse female warriors because they found women burried with shield and swords. But in fact noble women were being buried with theses things because of their status and had nothing to do with fighting.
@@Thesavagesouls Hjalmar Stolpe was not a feminist in the 1870's when he discovered the grave of the first Shield Maiden. Neither was Berit Vilkans in the 1970's when he identified those remains as definitely being female and having healed injuries consistent with combat.
In France we have a far left historian called Lucie Malbos who write that the woman of Birka is a transgender only because we thought she was a man when the grave was discovered but we discovered later that she was a woman. Yes, it is not even a historical or scientifical method. The fact that people like Lucie Malbos can say this kind of things and still be considered as historians makes me losing hope for the future of history (and I am a history student specialized in medieval Scandinavia). Thank you for your video, you contribute to make students like me to stay strong enough to keep working with a real method and to keep looking for the truth, not to push forward a political ideology. Again thank you !
@@1chibanKasuga No, French and rewriting history does not go hand in hand. There are many very good and professional historians in France. But we have a very noisy and loud minority of completely indoctrinated historians who are always the ones who are invited to speak. It is a sad situation and I hope one day things will turn in a better way but for now we are far from being out of this
I mean... We kinda messed up the national tale though... "Nos ancêtres les gaulois..." Nope. Gauls is a nickname, thank you. And franks being germans has been... Not entirely swept under the rug but still... Not very advertised.
Hello. Im from Sweden and I remember they talked about this woman in a documentary but they just called it a woman and suggested there could have been cases of women as warriors among the vikings, they never speculated about this nonsense about "transgender".
Darn it! Metatron preventing me from rewriting history according to my own fantasies again! Almost as if there is an objective truth out there for better or for worse. Love those 72 wings dude!
God you have no idea how much i dispise this modern concept of "My truth." It contradicts the term Truth in its core. There is Perception and opinion. And The Truth. And Truth is based on universal proof we can all objectively see. Like gravity. Mo matter how i personally feel or percieve it. If i jump off a chair ill fall. I can't fly because of my truth.
Truth is one's best understanding of reality. That's why what can be considered true based on the evidences can change due to more evidences or some of the previous ones shown as fallacious. Reality ? Does not change. Does not depend on the ability to grasp it to come to "the truest truth on that subject". Now, this is scientific method. A place that deals with uncovering truths from reality. If we were to find a Pegasus, evolution would still mostly be true but we'd have to work hard on the reality of said Pegasus to add the missing reality parts in the truth of the evolution puzzle. Most people have not learned the method, nor semantics. That's why they come out with truth is subjective, when truth is relative. Reality is objective, no matter how the "truth" denies it.
@@celiand2618 Generally yes but i'd formulate it a tad diffrently to be a bit more direct. Reality is what is. Our method to discover reality is based on the current state of evidence and is called The Truth. The truth is no absolute and can by new discoveries be updated, but is heavily tied to trsts and objective evidence. The concept of "My Truth" skips the need for tests and objective evidence. It takes personal feelings and perception as truth. As reality even. A good example here a Tomato. Most people percieve and feel its a vegtable. We often pair it with Vegtables, its not sweet oe fruity in taste. So "My Truth" would be a tomato is a vegtable. But "The Truth" is bssed on tests, breaking down a tomatos dna and sciengifically correctly categorizing it as fruit. As its entire way to grow and structural makeup count as objective evidence everyone can read, understand. Even recreate by replicating the test process. As such we figured out the current state of truth of the matter by research. So generally i totally agree, i'd just clarify it a bit diffrent tbh.
I subbed to you because you tell the truth which is becoming a lost and highly sought after commodity in the "Modern" time. Thanks for this the truth IS AWESOME and we need lots more of actual logic and truth
I guess those “experts” have never seen two soldiers who are friends clinging to each others hands as they are dying? One male friend guiding and comforting another through extreme pain or grief? They seem to forget also, that holding hands isnt exactly sexual in latin cultures.
Oggi ho avuto una giornata abbastanza del cavolo, appena ho visto che hai caricato il video sono corsa a guardarlo. Non sai quanta compagnia mi tieni e quanto imparo dai tuoi video. Grazie per tutto il lavoro che fai ☺️
@@metatronyt Ah yes, your very materialistic and critical lens of history has contributed so much to academia. (I’m being sarcastic). The problem with the article you read is not that it comes to maybe a not so well researched conclusion, but how it gets to that conclusion. It is incredibly unreliable to determine the sex of a skeleton let alone the gender. But that is the problem, that skeleton’s gender was defined by anatomy, which is transphobic (sex is not the same as gender). It is foolish to blame the mistakes of an article about transgender skeletons on the nebulous “left” (not that you would know what would be considered “left”). Queer people are not an ideology nor are they apart of one. They are people with different opinions and incentives that have existed throughout all of recorded history. I would stop looking at the world through an ideology but through a science; while considering the thoughts, emotions and conditions of others. I guarantee you that whatever made up story you cover or obscure articles you analyze without context will not solve your problems. Co-opting scientific analysis for legitimizing fascist ideology will hurt everyone in your position including yourself in the long run. There is no woke left trying to take away your rights, there is only the powerful and wealthy elite that steal from the labor of working class people like yourself (I assume that you don’t own other workers). The two party system, liberal ideology (look up liberalism), and your material conditions have made fascist ideology appealing for you. As I’ve already stated, this is not the correct option. The correct option would be to look at the world through a critical lens and consider the “other” not as a monolith but as people that have just as much in diversity in opinions as well as various interests. Just to note that I have only watched the first part of your video, but I was a viewer of your channel before it became political and have watched some of your newer content.
_Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped_
Notice how they go after any historical thing that's currently popular? They really don't want "the bros" to like anything, so they straight up lie about it.
@@actuallyKriminell History hasn't stopped since it's merely everything that happened before ... well right now? ... it's just being twisted ... again. What's that old saw? History is written by the winners or perhaps it should be, the more you influence what is believed to be history, the more you win. Sad, but seems to be true these days.
Through research by a family member into our family tree, we found plausible connections dating back to Harold Bluetooths days, of our family living in Norway at that time (a place called Setesdal). Which means, it's not impossible for me to have actual viking seafarers in my family line. So when these "history tourists" try to re-write history, it truly rubs me the wrong way. I'm really very thankful that you call them out on their bovine excrement. As a side note, I just want to mention that Birka is pronounced with an "ee" sound, like "bee". So "Beerka" basically. It really gave me pause when you called it "burka" haha. I do believe that particular clothing did not exist in those times, but do correct me if I'm wrong xD
Thank you for calling out the bullshite! As a scandinavian with ancestral roots that go way back, I am so sick and tired of all those who twists and turns what we know and don't know about the Vikings.
I’m Croatian Scottish and Norwegian. It’s in my blood. And none of this gender bullshit went on back then. None of it, they would probably laugh in your face after you were slaughtered if you uttered any of this putrid drivel.
@@Darkstar-qb3dh That is cool! Fun fact, back in 2001 a study showed that only 37% of the female settlers of Iceland orginated from the Nordic countries but 62% from the British Isles, and 80% of the male settlers originated from Norway and other Scandinavian countries. Taken together these results suggest that the settlers of Iceland were by and largly Nordic males and british women.
Articles like this are written by the same people who think Joan of Arc was “trans” despite her dressing as a man was never contested, and she never gave any indication she suffered gender dysphoria, and there is much evidence to suggest her dressing ad a male was for tactical/strategic reasons, and passed as a man for support and leadership purposes.
@chibibeetle I appreciate what you're doing out here. More trans people need to stand up against the activists because this animosity from most people is where that is starting to come from. Keep fighting the good fight, and show everyone you just want to pass. Aside from your profile picture, which reminds me of that awful assigned male webcomic, I give you my blessings to be strong and willing to call out the crazies. Godspeed.
Another thing about Viking/Norse/Scandinavian culture at the time was that warrior or not, women were expected to take up arms and defend the home while the men were away. Some of these women buried with armor and weapons could have been just that. Wives, daughters, sisters who took up their husband/father/brother(s) arms to defend the home if it was attacked by enemies, or raiders so just wandering thieves. Such women would likewise have been given such honors at burial if they died in such a battle.
Doesn't even have to be that they were defending their homes or anything like that. Weapons, especially swords, and armour were expensive asf - and being buried with one would show prestige, material wealth and possibly brining wealth into the after life. It doesn't even prove that they were female warriors/shieldmaidens. Sick and tired of activists pretending to be historians and just releasing whatever the fuck news and findings, to further political activism and get clout.
Exactly, the saga have example of women who pick up weapons, to defend themself and the home, and of course they will be honored to the fullest if they did die defending the home-village.
And if some of those women lost their homes, or otherwise got an axe to grind, they could very well pick up the weapons and go on the offence. I don't think it matters too much whether they strictly just defended their homes or if they took up arms as more dedicated warriors (although it's an interesting topic). We know Norse women fought, and we know some of them were honoured for it (there are some mentions in texts, aside from the findings in the graves). But don't call them trans men just because of that. That's just sexist.
In North every woman despite social status weared knife for selfdefence, was it animal or human who atacked didnt matter. So they were aware how to fight. Men were often away from home, to fight or to hunt or to fish on sea , so they couldnt defend them all time around. It wasnt time when you call police to come help you and usually nearest neighbours house was far away and also occupied with women only bc their men were at work also. At that time women were strong bc you needed survive, same was with men, who wasnt strong and cappable didnt survive, it is called natural selection. Nowdays there isnt need for all that and natural selection on this side of life doesnt work anymore.....what is clearly feltable.
That is speculation but not far fetched as defense of the home by women also happened in the United States and Canada during the Colonial periods. Women took up arms to defend their homes against Native American attacks. But people are forgetting that Weapons and Armor costs a lot of money and wealth in the Viking Age and later and since it would have been infrequent periods for women to use them, it would hardly have seen likely that such a heavy investment would have been made for them.
didnt vikings have an extremely offensive insult that was something like "you lay with men" and if someone said it to you, you had to kill them, i remember something like that on QI
Every episode of QI I tried to watch had something terribly incorrect about the world. And I am that guy who finds small mistake in the encyclopedia because I read so much...
You think these people would bother to do any research? (Especially inconvenient research that would instantly shatter their deluded views and ideologies)
Honestly that people think it's sensible to look at the past through modern lenses or ideals at all is absurd and very damaging. I feel you Metatron. I have Far leftists and Far rightists in my family and being fairly neutral means only getting told that I am on the opposite side of their beliefs instead of in the middle trying to stand up with logic and reason.
I absolutely hate the mentality of "If you ain't with us, you're against us" the only thing politics does is divide us, and distract us from the shady things our government is currently doing.
I sincerely appreciate that during your debunking, you took a moment to address the validity of the idea that some people in antiquity still may have lived with gender dysphoria. Far too often, people who want to debunk these things want to do it as a sort of take down to trans people, the fact that you're stressing that it's about truth, not politics, and still offering acknowledgement to people with non-typical gender identity is a breath of fresh air. Thank you for being truly noble.
Absolutely. As I say on the video I am not qualified to talk about Gender Dysphoria and what it actually means to suffer from it, but it is a condition and as such it's very likely that it occurred in the past as well, just like any other condition. Just because people in the bronze age didn't understand psychology or hormones or any other thing about the human condition, it doesn't mean they didn't suffer the conditions they didn't know could exist. Thanks for the nice comment
"I hope you enjoyed this video ..... I did not." 😂 Dude, you're very good. Please keep it going. Your fight against the 21st century death of academia on the altar of socio-political billshit is absolutely a noble cause. I salute you. Gus xox ❤
I heard if this trans Viking warriors, yrs ago actually, from my grandmother. She told me: “ no matter what they say, Vikings were trans, black, warriors that took over Inner Mongolia
There is the famous Saga about thor having to dres up as a woman(freja) to get his stolen hammer back. All the other gods laugh at him and ridicule him for dressing as a woman even though he dos it to get the hammer back, he himself dont want to do at first. This shows how much it matteret to not be seen as femenim.
norse mythos or the eda saga was writen roughly 400 years after the viking era by christians. meaning for the most part the north mythos is considered not a valid sourch material as a reference to norse culture. consider A. Centuries later. B. political/religious bios and C. myths were spread more often through the word of mouth and rarely documented meaning its origin is muddied and intepret different depending on location and region. this is why constent evidence is the only accurate source we have.
@@dendrien no not 400 years. The eddas and Saxo was written in edda: 1120’ties and Saxo 1170’ties so about 120 years after 1066, the most Common date for the end of the viking age and yes they where writting by 2 Christians, but 2 people eager to preseve the oral traditions of there people. They are Are also the only texts we have written by scandinavians themself. So if we cant use Them there is nothing we Can use. No Odin, no Thor no nothing.
@@dendrien I agree with that assessment. That is why, I maintain that in order to really determine whether or not the Norse woman in burial mentioned in the article, or any other so called shield maiden skeleton, is to do a detailed forensic analysis of the bone structures. There will be certain diagnostic elements present, eg, sword cuts on bone, built up bone structures, etc. that can determine that.
Agreed! This is a big problem in modern resurgent paganism - where historical 'evidences' are filtered through modern world concepts that were completely alien to old world civilisations. Yet, simply pointing out such facts will get you villified in response.
Certain people want a religion that caters explicitly to their worldview. And so there's no real need to apprehend things as they were; presentism wipes away any need for real scholarship.
That is true. The revival attempts I have seen in ‘Paganism’ (or I like to call them, the Old Ways) appear to be extremist far left or extremist far right. 😂
😂 They traded with Arabs so no surprise. Arab coins were used as pendants too I doubt they were Muslim. But, hey anything is possible! Some may have indeed converted, we can’t be 100% certain.
Nothing proves nor denies the possibility of a muslim viking, the muslims have traded with them and trade was what caused islam to spread in many areas such us china and malasia/Indonesia It is possible, arguably probable, but not provable neither debunkable
@@User-dyn they found a gown in Norway. It was a traded good. That's it. Yet they are taking that as a "fact", there were Muslim vikings. Even though they are buried in the viking style.
@@Tyler_Lalonde- i didn't say it was a fact, i said not to jump into conclusions either as a viking muslim(singular) could have happened and that neither side can prove a thing
I was just scrolling TH-cam, when I stumbled upon this channel, I absolutely love the non-political bias. It’s genuinely a breath of fresh air and I will certainly be subscribing.
Yes. If he died away from home, she would have to make sure that he was armed in the afterlife. They had all kinds of ideas. But surely the women were not left defenseless when vikings were away on raids. They, the women, would have weapons, since the army were away, and no police existed.
I have had so many discussions (read: arguments) with people who insist on looking at history through the lens of how we see things today. They just can't grasp a concept where their notions could be either right or wrong, that it isn't that way necessarily but COULD be. Without context, without factual information, the issue can't be totally resolved. They don't understand hypothesis or theory, just "this is the way it is now so it has to be the way it was back then because we didn't just come up with this "fact" out of our imagination. If we could think about it, they could think about it the same way. My usual reply is "okay sunshine, show me three sources of academic writing where these things are discussed, with footnotes and at least secondary (preferably first) sources, and peer reviewed. At that point they tell me I'm stupid and walk away. Way to back up a "fact". :) Love your channel, Metatron, always get something good out of it.
If two humans are dying next to one another, even if the hate each other, they will often hold hands. This has nothing to do with sexual attraction. Holding hands in a stressful situation, and little is more stressful than dying, is a human trait. It's why people don't want to die alone. The dying reach out, it is a natural human reaction.
exactly what i was thinking. I wasnt clear if this was a burial or just found. He said burial one time, so it might have been a formal burial which would mean the bodies would have been arranged that way. In that respect that would be unusual. but if they were bodies found, and no evidence its an actual gravesite (totems left with the body etc) then yeah i agree with you. I was going to go look it up for myself and see if i could find out more about it.
What a stupid thing to write. You both say that "uh oh sometimes maybe idk when people die they hold hands i guess" and "BUT I AM 100% CERTAIN THERE IS NO SEXUAL ATTRACTION". You don't know and it's stupid to make bold claims. People don't want to die alone because of evolution. The cavemen that did die alone didn't reproduce as often. The cavemen that didn't had better genes and got to reproduce.
I know this is an older video and likely nobody will see this comment…but… As a non-religious, politically neutral, anthropologist-I can tell you with absolute confidence that this current trend of “modern rewriting” of history, is reviled/mocked/rebuked within the main community and is not taken seriously. The community as a whole, still adheres to and strongly advocates for the practice of “academic neutrality”, in the study of mankind/cultures. Which is precisely why the people who *PUSH* this type of unverified nonsense, take the usual route of going directly “to the people” and use the tactic of artificially amplifying their claims online-as a way to rewrite history, by using a grassroots cultural/pop cultural method (thus making it seem like a “widely accepted” new discovery). Which it obviously isn’t. But even though none of their claims are peer reviewed and aren’t accepted by the wider world of academia (I’m not saying this community isn’t flawed and that it doesn’t make mistakes, it definitely does-but it has numerous failsafes put into place, that are meant to try and curtail “false positives” on new discoveries, in an attempt to minimize accidentally spreading misinformation to the public)…sadly their methods are still very effective and are able to sway a large portion of people (mostly those who are already primed/wanting to believe such information) into now thinking that these wild claims are the new “immutable facts” of history. It’s a very concerning and frustrating trend. That is why I’m very grateful for channels like this one. People with sizable enough platforms and strong enough spines, to speak out against this blatant unverified propaganda-no matter how much pushback you may receive-is an absolutely invaluable aid in trying to stop this nonsense. Because left unchecked, these guerrilla tactics are basically effective enough to erase and rewrite anything in history… Which will only ensure dooming the future to repeat the very worst of it. (Disclaimer: I’m not saying there is absolutely *0% chance* that there were “trans Vikings”, or that this DEFINITELY isn’t “proof” of there being so. I’m simply saying that there isn’t nearly enough/any peer reviewed evidence/proof to backup those claims-and the very fact that these sort of “discovery” claims usually go out of their way to avoid following any/all of the proper scientific procedures/protocols, in order to support their “discoveries”…automatically leads people like me to assume that it is nothing more than wildly unscientific speculation and unfounded bombastic propaganda. Their unprofessional “methodology” leaves me with no other choice than to come to that conclusion. If they ever rectify their mistakes, go through the proper process and are able to show substantive proof for their “trans Vikings” argument-I am MORE than happy to change my position on the matter. But until that day comes….🤷♀️).
I mean it shows that there are no real problems to worry about, at least in some parts of the world. So it's also a good thing I guess. At least partially.
@@sihilius You'd think, yet the countries where this heresy goes on (i.e the west) is a crumbling cesspit of drug addicts, homelessness, collapsing economy, rampant crime etc etc.
Thank-you for keeping sane and for clearing up false rewriting of history and cancel culture. Like you said, far too many people look at the past with a modern lens, which leads to cancel culture and people trying to make it seem as if what we're dealing with today was part of past cultures like it is today. I'm totally against cancel culture because you can't rewrite history. Of course we can't know every single thing that happened in the past, but we can avoid looking at it with our modern points of view and acknowledge that bad things happened and that things were not viewed the same as they are today. People need to remember that and get over trying to push their agendas on to history.
I (being a 60 y.o./20 yr. Veteran) had, in my earlier life, considered educators to be the vanguard of truth and history. Sadly, no longer can I apply such sentiments to the majority of contemporary K-12 educators and a growing number of Collegiate ideologues. To those who say "I'd like to see you do better" be assured I hold 4 Associate degrees and a Baclelors in Middle Grades Education specializing in Social Studies and Mathematics. Sadly, there is no place in public education for someone of my convictions, experience, and age. Let us hope that this channel grows so that thruth will out. Thank you, sir.
I have my own hang ups over religion, but .. if you really want company join up with your local church group or pagan circle. My local county area that have a few pagan circles are also in foam weapon larp fighting. My old friend that ran a D&D and "magic the gathering" card gaming shop, his daughter grew up arguing word math problems on how the crunch numbers for the best social/ attack modifiers loved Star Wars and foam weapon fighting. She is crewed on a Us navy ship running senor equipment, 3rd best female pipe/lightsaber fencer and 5th best shield & club fighter on ship. The other woman and three men just above weight class her. Half my larp club daughters join the military just to show up the other women & men. Sadly what they grew up around in high school and who is willing to join for the long term for larp padded shield bash to the face. They had to leave our hometown to find anything close to a real man like their fathers. G*D sakes, three of the fathers nick names are Ogre because they are just that big. Two of the young women grew up with the broad shoulder built of a power lifter. Dam near 14 years ago since I am now 46years old. A 14 year old girl tackle me to the ground and laugh it off and my back got popped. Yeah, I was done trying to keep up with hyperactive teenagers. You are a person with .. stories .. find a young group and pass the tales down to the next generations. Hope you have a good day, and G*D bless.
See if more teachers were like you I wouldn’t be planning on homeschooling my child😂 but I live in Vermont, where they decided to “take gender terminology out of sex Ed” and they wonder why illiteracy is becoming such a problem. The revival of illiteracy, I never thought I’d see it😂
@@krispalermo8133 Reading both of these comments has made me feel like I have come to the right place and I’m among my people😂😅 I have a spiritual practice, and yes I have found that the further into it I get the more ridiculous I find this gender narrative to be. I also find it to be extremely harmful spiritually. You’re right about churches, I’ve been thinking about finding one up here. As odd as my teenage self would find this, I find that their views actually line up more with mine than say, some atheist liberal group. I can’t believe that saying I believe in two genders is now considered to be hateful. I feel like I’ve had the rug yanked out from under me.
@@timetravelkitty425 Thank you for your kind replies. Funny enough, a church near me that functions as a voting location my old friend, she said, .. " Surprise that old church ladies talk about playing D&D ? Ironic enough we are now old ladies that grew up playing D&D." From our point of view the last 15years just blew by. Offhand I prefer other RPG systems than current D&D, but word math problems and dealing with social outcomes help train people to think and deal with moral/ethical inter actions. D&D more or less done away with alignments system while other systems moral is a big part of Vampire. Whitewolf/World of Darkness (WoD) vampire, mage, werewolf, and changeling comes under fire more than a few times over the years on how they display or .. act/role play .. derangements/ mental health problems, but my last group was good at displaying how to work with derangements. We just respond that we just let our guard down let our own personal mental hang up out in the open. We were really good at snapping at c0ps and church religious people slamming on people role play. Azz holes, " Well you should play lawful good ! " Our reply, " Good people don't need laws to treat people with polite respect, you don't want respect you want azz kissing and fear." In vampire you have 1 to 10 ranking on morality. 4 to 5 is most common. Morality/ humanity of 3, will lie, cheat, steal, manslaughter, and plan crimes to rob people of their property and kidnapping. More or less everything the c0ps come under fire for since Vampire came out during the 1990's. Sorry to be negative or hateful. WoD: Mage Awakening is a great book, they more or less took Wiccan and everything else and put it to 1d10 dice pool mechanics and apply an RPG setting to it. Other than books before the 2000's, there are plenty TY videos covering circle magic and astral beings, .. what did Yoda say to Luke about not being this crude matter ? Other than all the fear mongering from tv preachers about now being once again " In the time of Noah." If G*D is meant to be simple, why ALL THE COMPLAICATIONS ? .. sorry for shouting. J3ws, nothing lasts forever. Muslims, nothing lasts forever. Xtians, burn in a lake of fire for all eternity. Hindu, .. behold the wonders and relax. well, more or less. Do I needs to start scripting my own videos ? Hope you have a good weekend, and G*D bless.
@@timetravelkitty425I graduated in 2019 and there's no way in Hell I'd put my kids through the public school system to experience what I did. If I have kids, they will be homeschooled or go to a private school if I can afford it.
I greatly appreciate channels like this existing. Speaking the truth and looking at things, where the only goal is to be historically accurate, is incredibly rare and important
@Metaron, So vikings were able to do trans gender surgery? Impressive, and here I thought they just landed on the moon first. There were women warriors. the odds are there were a few at least. perhaps Metatron, you need to do a an episode on warrior women of various cultures? put these activists in there place! Great video, Keep up the great work.
Wouldn't even have to be a "woman warrior." If her village was raided and she fought back and took out a few herself before going down they'd have probably buried her with honors, a warriors honors.
"I hope you enjoyed this video, I certainly did not!" 🤣 I don't know why you didn't come up on my homepage sooner, but I'm subscribing. I'm all about truth in history and archeology. You presented all the possibilities, and pointed out that since they removed the artifacts and remains from where they were found it's impossible to infer anything from them. positioning of the artifacts and remains is almost more important than the items themselves in order to unravel the mystery that is our shared human history.
I notice they also completly ignore the possibility that in a warrior society a woman doing something courageous, like say taking up arms to defend her village against raiders and not surviving couldn't have ended with her people giving her their highest honors, being buried as a warrior.
We have well documented history of viking, Irish, British, scottish, warrior Woman from the Roman period up to the early Renaissance period. I mean the Vikings, Scottish, and Irish all had female war goddesses.
@@williamgosvener47 yeah, on rare occasions you'd find the odd woman out. Differences between men and women made female warriors exceptionally rare though. You're not one of those people that think there are no differences are you?
@williamgosvener47 Doesn't matter. Doesn't make them warriors. America has one of the highest, if not highest amount of civilians with weapons. A lot of them trained as well. Do you mean every one of them, just because they know how to use a weapon, is a soldier? Don't be ridiculous.
Imagine having your and your homie's grave dug out in the 21st century and getting mistaken as a gay couple just because you both grew up side by side, had a strong brotherhood, went to war together, witnessed your empire succeeding and being defeated in a war, and you kissed each other good night every day until the day you both died.
I am old enough to remember when “Whiggish History” was a denunciation of a historical argument. Applying modern standards to the actions and motivations of historic figures is ultimately fruitless.
I hope you will read this, not related to the topic but i couldn't believe it when i saw it: at 4.34 the camp shown in the video is made by my reenactment group!!! I can't believe we appeared in one of your videos 😁😁😁😁😁
Oh ok, I was wondering how he got stock footage from the medieval period!? Jk, that’s awesome. There’s companies out there keeping history alive. Not trying to rewrite it!
I have a request, since you have such great connections in the world of archaeology, could you look into the link between Jesus and Zoroastrianism? Cyrus, first called messiah, was almost certainly a Zoroastrian and changed the Jewish religion forever. I want to know if original translations could bring light to the following: When Jesus told the Jews they worshipped the Devil, was he referring to YWH? When Jesus spoke of the spirit of truth was it referring to a person or event and did he imply he didn’t trust the apostles to properly relay his words? Jesus spoke of “hell” as destruction, not torment, only using fire in one metaphor, could this have been a hint to Zoroastrianism? Finally, 3 Magi (not Rabbi) came from the East, not North from the seat of God’s power. Coincidentally 3 moralistic religions exist to the east, each containing one of the three defining aspects of Christianity that makes it alien to Judaism: Heaven/Good God vs Devil/Hell: Zoroastrianism. The concept of Sin and the necessity to work towards redemption: Buddhism. A Holy Trinity featuring a Heavenly Father and Holy Son who triumphs over the wicked: Taoism. Could you please look into this for me? I have had some spiritual experiences but want things more concrete and lack the resources.
In case he doesn't reply (or do the video), I thought I'd provide you a link to an interesting channel that discusses various religions, beliefs, and esoteric ideas. You may come across some of the information you're looking for. www.youtube.com/@TheEsotericaChannel
I can't promise a video but I will look into this. I'd suggest to follow me on Twitter/X where I post opinions and discoveries that don't make a full video. Thank you for your generous donation.
I don't know how much it helps, but I remember starting a book called the "Origin of Satan" which talked about the Judeo-Christian rise of divine evil (for lack of a better term). Basically, before the schism between the two, Satan was bascially the angel whose job it was to try and convince God that individual people are not worthy of whatever. Sure from a human perspective, that is evil but not nessassarily. The author argued that one of the ways that the post schism religions snipped at each other was saying they worshiped evil ie Satan. Some notes: I usually have trouble reading non-fiction because a lot of it is the author trying to justify the length of the work so I frequently stop early, as in this case. Secondly, I have no idea how good the sources for this are. One of the other things which I thinks bearing in mind is that the schism between Judiasm and Christianity was not immeditate and I think funny broke roughly 100 years after Jesus died. An example I am familiar with in this is the mention Josephus has of Jesus, which is basically just a short historical record. It is a pretty contentious topic which I think is pretty debated and imo is probably an example of how the split was far from complete and probably in its infancy (or even before).
@@metatronyt Twitter does a number on my faith in humanity. Don’t worry about it. Twitter is too short to contain meaningful info as well. It was worth a shot. Twitter is glitchy on my phone anyways. It never shows current tweets.
I have to occasionally stop this video, the sheer stupidity of these articles are giving me a headache. I feel bad for Metatron for having to read these more then once.
O'Brien smiled faintly. 'You are no metaphysician, Winston,' he said. 'Until this moment you had never considered what is meant by existence. I will put it more precisely. Does the past exist concretely, in space? Is there somewhere or other a place, a world of solid objects, where the past is still happening?' 'No.' 'Then where does the past exist, if at all?' 'In records. It is written down.' 'In records. And----?' 'In the mind. In human memories.' 'In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?' -George Orwell, "1984" ---------------------------------------- They are attempting to rewrite history to fit their agenda. The past exists, to them, only to further their goals.
You forget, there are we "maniacs", something that may be forbidden by man yet Nature instills in all of us. That which will attack/escape, be free and spread to the ends of it's abilities. Those abilities in Man appear to be endless.
This is an interesting video on re-writing of history. The thing is I remember stories of female pirates dressed in male clothing and stories of women who disguised themselves as a man to fight in wars when women were not allowed to fight in war. When the article used Queen Elizabeth as an example as a woman warrior i asked why didn't they use Joan of Arc as a woman warrior or Jeanne Hachette who I just learned about looking up Joan of Arc wondering if Joan's history was going to be re-written to match today's views.
Joan of Arc’s history is already being attempted to be rewritten. Some people are trying to claim she’s “nonbinary” because she refused to wear women’s clothes and only wore men’s clothes. The reason why she did this is because it was more likely for her to be SA’d in women’s clothes than in men’s clothes, but people are deliberately choosing to ignore that
@@DeplorablesGarbage just to prove you wrong I am going to forge a Viking helmet eventually lol. It’s perfectly possible to be both queer and a blacksmith.. like me!
It is really hard to grasp that different times had different views on things. The older one gets the more clear it comes due to perspective of personal experience. Equally so to concepts about sexuality and gender and actions between people. Not to mention when it comes to different cultures and even different eras in cultures history. It seems that its almost worse if one knows little about the subject rather than nothing at all. Great video and well handled. Always into the facts. 👍
I think that is the bit to understand. Things like the nuclear family or children's rights and the nation-state are more recent than they look like from our short look.
There's an old Scandinavia and the world comic where America asks england about his obsession with cross dressing in comedy (panto, the old comedy films like money python etc) England has flashbacks to Romans in skirts and vikings with braids and ribons in their hair and jokes he "uses comedy to deal with trauma"
THANK YOU, Metatron! Nothing is more important than the search for truth; wether that truth is convenient for us as individuals, doesn't matter. The constant attempts to hide the truth on account of an agenda, is very frightening.
As a bears fan, I'm just shocked this wasn't obvious to everyone. Excuse me while I go back to my mediocre team now. Chicago is the land of sports misery.
Since they want to LARP so Bad as Vikings they can do that surgery with Historical accurate Viking medicine technology and Tools, Come ON IT was normal for Vikings you say why are you running 😂?
The whole "ye olden lgbt movement" always reminds me of a National Geographic article a far-lefty sent me about examples of some places which had more than 2 genders. The examples they gave were places where people like doctors were socially assigned a third gender because a man looking at your naked wife is usually called adultery and women also need medical care and places where lesbians were considered to be a third gender. That second example really makes the whole "ye olden lgbt movement" even funnier, because some of the lesbians (ie the one they interviewed) were really upset they were not considered women. A point though, I have no idea how robust the actual research and accuracy of the article was.
The whole concept of “ye olden lgbt movement” is really dumb, because the word “homosexual” was coined by a German within the last two centuries. We live in an unprecedented time in that sense, so while gay/trans/whatever people have always existed, they’ve by and large just folded into traditional society, which makes both liberal activist fantasies and right-wing conspiracies idiotic.
This sounds really interesting. Do you by any chance remember the title of the article or the year the magazine was released? I would love to read it :)
It's like the 2 spirit stuff. It was an insult and they were treated as less than women, but "oh a 3rd gender so they were better than today" persists.
Same with some tribes in Africa assigning gay men as a 3rd gender. Which if you really think about it, they’re basically telling us that they don’t see gay people as equals to men and women So why the hell would you want to accept that as an example of a third gender
LOVE HISTORY!! My 1st cousin was valedictorian cum laude in History & became a teacher at her college; L.S.U. @ Alexandria, Louisiana! Appreciate RELEVANT & ACCURATE TRUE HISTORY!!!
Let it be known as well that the Norse didn't exclusively have a word for 'homosexual', but instead used the word 'ragr' or 'argr' (meaning cowardly or effininate) as a term for homosexuals. Just something to think about, especially considering that the Norse were a warrior culture that prioritized virtues of strength and honor in battle
For the ones of the 2 males buried holding hands, could it possibly be relatives? Maybe fought in & died at same battle? Blood brothers? Yes homosexual aspect is on the table, although I think unlikely. As always superb video
Men can't be friends or express that friendship through any kind of physical touch. That's automatically gay. I think there has been a long cross-cultural history of men having intensely close bonds with other men... without having sex with them. As a gay man myself, I'm happy that I can get married and I'm not going to be stoned for being myself. However, I feel like a consequence of gay acceptance is that more behavior is seen as "gay" and straight men are less comfortable expressing deep platonic love for one another and I think that is an important part of being male.
In some modern cultures it's apparently perfectly normal for male friends to walk around holding hands, but if I saw two guys doing that I'd presume that they must be a couple because that's how it would be in my culture/society. This is why you have to be so careful to not impose your own worldview onto history (not always an easy thing to do because we often do it without realising).
@@gamera5160men in Arab culture like Saudi Arabia can be seen holding hands as part of culture. And it is not homosexual. Not sure how everything or anything for that matter is being tagged as gay.
As an amateur historian (currently studying for a BA degree in History), it drives me crazy when people try to apply modern concepts/ideas/perspectives to historical phenomenon. It goes against the very premise of historical study! I understand interpreting something historical in a way that makes sense to you in the modern age (it is what people do with the bible, as some of its texts just simply does not apply in modern times) BUT interpreting is not equivalent to historical fact, speculation is normal when one does not have all the facts on something but wild conjecture is not and it, quite frankly, is useless, in the further pursuit of answers. Stick to the facts people, and when you interpret something historical, use what you already know as proven facts to base your interpretation on and keep historical contexts in mind.
I'm pretty sure the concept currently referred to as "gender" didn't come about until the 1950's, and wasn't adopted in the mainstream as the definition of the word "gender" until very recently. There's a reason there isn't a word for "gender" in any other language, just different ways of saying "biological sex". I still remember the days where such a distinction between "gender" and "biological sex" wasn't made, and I'm only 36 years old. So to assume an ancient people's stance on the modern concept of "gender" is just meaningless. You'd have to travel back in time and explain the concept to them, then wait a whole bunch of generations for the idea to circulate and be discussed and investigated and for some sort of consensus (which we still don't have today, I might add) to be reached before you can know what their views on it as a society would be. Unless they did have the concept (or a similar one) and it just disappeared from our collective knowledge for quite a few centuries, which, though not impossible, is incredibly implausible (especially if there's a strong basis for the concept), and still not provable and thus meaningless to assume. But ideology will do as ideology does I suppose.
If a woman felt as strong as a man and as warrior-like as a man she would have thought of herself as a woman that felt as strong as a man and his warrior like as a man. I doubt in those days she would have thought of herself as a man.
We support you and your work keeping history as history instead it becoming fantasy. Anyone who tries to do this or black washes a movie is a culture warrior from the certain spectrum.
We living in dangerous time. The fact that these people have powerful and rich people behind them scared me a lot. The want to change the entire story of humanity and is pure madness.
George Soros is richer than any company. How about the enormous company that makes Bud Light and their trans rep that fell apart? Or Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock which is the largest investment firm who will only support companies who go "woke" and push DEI. He was trying to shuffle companies to the top which pushed trans agendas and to run the ones that didn't out of business.... So no, you are quite wrong. In fact you are wrong any way you look at it because these huge corporations always invest in both sides of the political spectrum. Come election time you will find big Pharma money spread around the left and the right.
I learned very recently, that shield maidens(as in women who actually fought in offensive combat, not defensive, such as a siege) were not only rare, they’re actually not sure there are any true cases of a genuine female warrior who participated in raids and battlefield frontlines.
Could be some women WHO we're camp followers aiding some Desperate Battle Like the Celtic barbarians did sometimes especially when the men we're cowards they killed them for dishonor
My understing is there were, if you count stuff like wearing armor and weapons and scouting the siege lines of an army outside your home. Granted, that is far from an offensive action, but I think historically, most women who tried to join the military would be disguising themselves as boys so they wouldn't be refused. I know there is a relatively famous Englishwoman who joined the navy like that hundreds of years ago. When it because too hard to hide, she retired and opened a shipbuilding company (or something like that).
All of Scandinavia is full of rune stones, some are religious stones, to evoke the gods blessings, some are boasting stones "X built this bridge" but the the majority is memorial stones or "tombstones" for people who have died, especial for people who have die overseas, so there was no body to bury at home. Now there are some female names of boasting stones, and some female name on the memorial stones, but the majority of the memorial stones are dedicated to warriors who did die overseas, and to my knowledge, there are no memorial stones that are dedicated to a female warrior. So "offensive" female warrior in Norse culture, did not exist or was extremely rare. There are example of "defensive" female warriors who pick up weapons do defend themself and home. But the saga do also make a point, that the warriors was so embarrassed that a woman was more brave them they, so they rally and charge the enemy. EDIT: Spelling error
It’s profoundly concerning that these individuals seem to be determined to re-write history to align with their own narrative. Especially given that so many young people rely so heavily on online sources for their information. Thank you for your videos. They are oases of academic rationality amidst a landscape of idealogical insanity. x
I remember when activists were going on ~10 years ago about a claim that half of Viking warriors for women. I wanted to try and read the original article but I could only find it under a paywall at the time. When I finally found it years later, it wasn't talking about warriors. It was talking about colonists.
I like how it starts off saying vikings were known for their brutal violence buuut they may have also had transgender people. Potentially implying that progressive nature of their warriors justifies the horrible violence.
If you’ve interacted with any of the hardcore progressives, “horrible violence against anyone who doesn’t agree with them” isn’t that big of a stretch. Just look how they treat anyone who has the gall to question their emotion-based “logic.” Pretty terrifying. Real book-burning stuff.
It also gives ammo to the lunatics of the other side in the form of ''the vikings were violent BECAUSE they had transgender people'' or some such malarkey
These are also the same people who decided to prop up a Roman emperor as a trans icon. You know, the guy who was so hated that none of the accounts of him can be taken without an ocean of salt and one of the ones killed by his own bodyguard?
Given Windlass makes the Suontaka sword based on a sword found in a woman’s grave in Finland, the idea of at least armed women shouldn’t be that surprising. I wonder if they put the transgender aspect just to grab headlines.
They have done that already. They found out few years ago that the bones actually belonged to a male. So they decided that it was a TRANS WOMAN. And this all was because there was a some woman's broach or something in the grave. It's not like that thing could not have belonged to his wife or mother.
@@petewitt3385 Makes sense, though reading into it, apparently the geneticists said the person might’ve suffered from Kleinfelter Syndrome which results in an extra X chromosome (so XXY) which can cause feminine traits to develop. That may also explain some of the feminine clothing due to that rare genetic defect.
@gameragodzilla intersex and transgender are entirely different things. Finding intersex people is expected at any time in the timeline and is an actual physical mutation in the body. Transgender is just in the head. Entirely differebr things. Calling a corpse that was itnersex "trans" is extremely disingenuous and disrespectful.
I don't wonder, got to be "all inclusive" and make everyone happy! even if it's historically incorrect sans solid evidence. That's said I'll bet they were absolutely "gay" Vikings of some flavor. And heck that's also fine with me. I just hate when people disregard the scientific method and spin things with modern values to suit themselves. You just can't do that if you're trying to research history accurately. 😞
Great video! As a Finnish person I can tell that the Nordic women are relatively strong both mentally and physically. Many of us are a bit masculine on our way, so no wonder if there has been also female warriors in the North. No reason to believe there wasn't. Life used to be hard here so they had to be tough and capable. My grandmother used to say that if the woman breaks the home breaks. There has also been other tribes that had female warriors. I think the celts had them. And what was the tribe that used to cut the other breast away, because of their equipment? I don't remember, but I think they were only women. And in today's world many nations have female soldiers too. So I find it quite funny to even question the existence of viking female warriors. Why wouldn't there have been such? I really wonder why those people that claim to be tolerant and whatever have those really strict rules about men and women. Why can't they accept that there are different types of men and women, others are for example more feminine and others more masculine. Why do they want to put people in those boxes as if you wasn't a real man or a real woman, but something else or even in a wrong body? How absurd is that?
My honest opinion on this: I believe shield maidens did exist. Maybe this female warrior was a noble woman. Take for example the daughter of a jarl, who was is an only child. She had to stand up for herself. What I have learned by studying Vikings, from who I am a straight descent, is that it were warriors and that it was more likely to be accepted that a woman took up the sword than when a man wanted to do household sores and wear a dress.
Why do people keep forgetting about Thor's daughters ? They were no pushovers, if you lost your roof it was caused by upsetting a goddess. Besides, swords had problems and spears & axes were more reliable along with more uses. Even their saxon .. knife .. is recorded being longer than Roman gladius.
Let us come up with all kinds of radical concepts in the 2020's and go back and re-write history and FIND things that we can use to PROVE our current ideologies. TY Meta for bringing out the truth.
Thank you for being a voice of sanity in this ridiculous world. The things that actually come out of people's mouths and are treated seriously, only a short time ago would have been thought to be a Saturday Night Live sketch, or a portrayal of the stupidest people in the world. Your channel reminds me that we know better, yet why the regression into idiocy?? How has it taken such hold? Apparently, only because we are "nice" enough not to shout it down, which we should change! Thank you again!
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The far left likes to play pretend too much. The widest thing is they want to seemingly just erase women in anything physical. They even have biological male athletes competing in women's leagues and outcompeting them. Not to mention relationship "advice" that leads to women losing good relationships for the mob mentality of the political crud.
I'm surprised they haven't tried to say Marylin Monroe is a man yet.
There is an old article I saw which you might enjoy. It is of an anthropologist, Laura Bohannan, who tried explaining Hamlet to an African tribe. It gives a pretty good example of what one probably should expect when trying to compare radically different cultures.
ie, Hamlet had no business trying to quiet his father's ghost and should have instead gone to his uncle and dropped it in his lap. Oh, and the social customs of the uncle having to wait to marry his brother's widow were really stupid.
NO, just no.
Society is at its breaking point, its now very obvious that there is no path towards reconciliation with the two sides- the left has totally and completely gone insane.
There is a woman, she was "trans", and a Historian. She transitioned to a man and then back again. She was married and had children. She also said in her lectures, that there is a correlation between homosexuality and the fall of almost every civilization in human history. I forget her name, but she is well known. So, if you did any kind of research, you would probably find her pretty quick.
They just don't get that just because a woman isn't a stereotypical woman doesn't mean that she's a man.
They are digging a hole, trying to find gold. Not realising they are digging a grave
Or...in this culture the stereotypical Woman knows how to fight, hunt anf other tasks.
And that the "Hyper" feminine image stems from diffrent cultures and points in time.
From times where dollification and other such practices occured that put all manual labour on men. And women only cooked and cleaned. Or they just had to lool nice as part of a harem.
For Norse culture this is normal. This is "Stereotypical" Norse.
I mean nobody is saying that lol
Yeah, I feel the same sense of weirdness in this. While they say (and possibly believe) that they are breaking narrow-minded ideas of gender roles, what they are actually doing by this is binding sexes to very narrow roles of their own making, deviation from which they then immediately label as trans.
Then again, perhaps it's intentional: if you only accept as a man a full bearded lumberjack who drinks cheap beer and fights bears a a hobby, of course you'll end up seeing vast majority of guys as trans!
Yeah, pretty sexist to assume someone's gender just based on their clothes. Shouldn't those hyper woke people be the first to see that?
People in Antiquity wore helmets. Therefore, the Romans must have been avid motorcycle enthusiasts.
Exactly. They regularly legions of Victory motorcycles to give their horses much needed breaks after big battles.
Because the nearest Harley shop was too far away.
Oh stop that's just nonsense it's obvious they were vert skaters c'mon man
It's simply an association fallacy. A=C, B=C, Therefore A=C.
😂
@@nobleundead5678
Do you mean to say A=B? You said A=C twice
What's really odd is these people are erasing women from history.
They woke are the real misogynists.
I mean, they are also trying to erase women today. The whole reason the terf movement came about was because women's spaces were being converted into transwomen's spaces.
Just look how many transwomen have completely wiped out women in athletic competitions.
They're trying to create their own version of history. Seems to be a lot of that going on these days.
These are the same people who claim to be feminists but they want to erase everything women did. It’s weird.
@@cp1cupcake While I don't agree with historical inaccuracies such as this one, including trans women in the present in women spaces is not erasing women. Expanding the definition of "woman" is not bad, it's just that we are in the middle of the process, so obviously certain issues such as trans women in sports are still being worked on. It's also less common than whatever media you consume makes you believe.
"She was using male armor"
Sir, armor is armor, pink boob armor only exists in videogames
at least in viking times. More modern plate armor might look different to accomodate boobs but for anything in that period? Armor is armor. Or did they literally find the biking chain armor ^^
@@totalutilitarian3292 there was only cabin mail armor at that time all over Europe plate armor was very rare at the time even a sword was not a common everyday carry I will say swords are not as rare as they say but plate armor is all but unheard of chain mail is flexible and only needed to be adjusted to how low the armor will reach the lowest we found was the knees
maybe it was meant as mail armor
@@beladder naa normal plate armor works with women, no problem - they were more tailored anyway
But, but, but red Sonja armor....it has to exist. Bring forth the chainmail g-strings
"We found evidence of a female skeleton."
...so... a woman?
"A transgender man."
*groans painfully*
And yet you are giving them enough attention, hence importance.
@@HeathenDance Yeah, we need to let as many people know about how stupid this historical revionist BS is. It stands in the way of anything honest and thought-provoking
@@noxplay4906 It's the opposite. It's the classic feeding of the troll. These decadent agendas depend on conflict, polarity and negativity. It's their fuel. That's how they keep themselves together. The same logic brought Nazis to power, actually. As for the Woke Movement, if people had stopped giving them attention, specially on-line, where almost everyone is addicted to dramatism and show-off, the woke movement had died years ago. But let's face it, even those who are against this, have a blast engaging in this fight. People get bored, spend too much time on-line, and it's always a pretext for feeling revolted, making another joke, and feeling good about themselves.
It astounds me how much woke people actually hate gender equality.
"A woman did something we think of as masculine in the modern day? Well that's because she's actually a man!"
Total insanity
@@HeathenDance yeah, let's ignore historical revisionism, it has NEEEEVER been used to push political agendas.
"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
--George Orwell, "1984"
Sometimes I wonder if Orwell just understood tyrants really well or if tyrants followed the methods of his books.
@@kevintanza6968 he lived it. Orwell was a socialist who fought in the Spanish Civil War--until the communists turned on the socialists for not being "pure" enough.
And as they say, history repeats itself.
@@kevintanza6968 Probably all a psyop, disguised as mainstream literature. The deception is deep.
I thought it was the victor who controls history?
True. I’m sure The Smithsonian is hiding some major truths about our society!
And reasonable people who don't nod to this kind of ridiculous nonsense are being labelled 'transphobic'. Go figure.
Exactly
I wear that with pride, but not THAT pride.
At this point, 'transphobic' means you disagree with a transperson. It could be about the best ice cream flavor--if you disagree, you're a transphobe. 🙄
Biology is transphobic to these people.
It’s all about dividing society.
I feel like I’ve washed up on an island refuge in a sea of madness. Thank you for being as open and unbiased in your process as possible. You are right. we NEED channels like this. You make me feel less insane.
I really don't understand this assumption being made by people today that a woman who behaves more masculine must be gay and or trans. I have a very dear friend who is a beautiful woman, married happily for 40 years to a man, and she just retired as a Colonel in the military. She camps, hikes, rides a motorcycle, works out, usually wears pants and has shorter hair... But she also cooks, cleans house, sews, knits, raised a daughter... She's straight, Cis and just an all around very balanced human being. Why on Earth can't we be okay with that for women?
They are making "gender roles" more rigid than they were 50 years ago and calling themselves progressive. LOL
Hi, you are sane, nice to meet you 🤝
It's because these people project every thought they have onto the real world and find ways to explain it.
Because it doesn't fit into their narrative, duh
Tomboy erasure, is what it is.
A woman can be rugged and handy and capable and strong (or at least stronger than most women) and still confidently exist as a woman in her woman's body without anxiety. The American frontierswoman being a proper historical example (with plenty of documentation). These women could chop firewood, shoot a rifle, haul heavy pales of water, and knew how to make a fist without breaking their thumbs. They were also proud mothers and wives. Analogous women are also among the Mongols and rural women in Russia and China and a ton of other cultures - modern, historical, and in between. No need to make every tough woman "trans". It's so weird.
I like to think these "historians" realized that making Elagabalus a trans icon wasn't a very bright idea, so they just moved on to the next historical era for their agenda...I mean, research 😅
Who is going to be next? Medieval knights?
@@metatronyt Joan of Arc - no wait they already that one
@@amyb.6368ain't no way
@@amyb.6368 Dear god, why did you have to remind me of that? My blood boils anytime any of this ludicrous nonsense tries to get their hands on Jeanne d'Arc, like a couple years ago how a poster of a supposed movie depicted her as black. I'll be honest, I don't want Metatron to make videos about her on things like this. I don't want him and me especially to lose even more braincells 😂
@@metatronyt well google gemini thinks there were black Asian Nazis so might as well
I’m so tired of this nonsense they want us to accept such insane lunacy it isn’t even possible anymore.
You and I are both...if it wasn't for Christ I would be in depression because of them
you have no proof that it was not like that, just accept our progressive ideas
progressive means improvement
@@Fun_Kick More like regressive 🤣😂🤣
@@utredmaethor769more like, if it were not for Christ, by now the whole world would be impaling themselves while they sing satanic music and eat alive all opposition and burning their children and having millions gather for a annual festival of fornication on top of the Empire State Building while they execute thousands of dogs in crates and feed them to demons and I WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING WORSE BECAUSE YOU GET THE PICTURE.
Correction: Progressive means Hegelian nonsense** @@Fun_KickIt's your fault that you have no historical literacy
I’m transgender and I was once a history major. I always I roll my eyes when I come across such articles. As Carl Sagan well said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Thank you for your honest pursuit and exposure of the evidence-based truth. Thank you also for acknowledging the harsh reality of those who, like me, suffer from gender dysphoria. Before I learned the vocabulary to understand and explain my condition, I just felt the excruciating incongruence between my mind and body, but I wouldn’t have made bold claims like those seen in these articles. I have followed and admired your work for a while now, and continue to learn from you every time.
Then you are a viking now
I'm trans as well and while I don't have any formal education in history I am a massive nerd so I very much feel the same when I come across stuff like this.
@@KageKatzeMassive nerds of all sorts are always welcome!!
The sad thing is; when these so-called Historians re-evaluate through their skewed, ‘modern’ lens, they glut the system with so much idiocy and fallacy that they leave no room for true historical figures who could be studied and appreciated!
@@trenae77
Norse women did protect their homes from barbarians and neighbour pillagers when their men needed elsewhere.
Who's to say she wasn't buried with a shield and sword because she showed clear bravery for her village?
Just edited in as I have read further upon about this grave:
There's a theory that she was married to a highly ranked general who then passed away and she took his role.
For a Widow, especially a wealthy one to take her late husband's role was seen and respected.
Good point. Also, while it may have been more common among them (meaning they'd potentially be more prepared), due to how they handled war or battle, it's ultimately true for all people who've faced war at home. There were many female French partisans in WWII. Why? because a lot of men had been killed, and they wanted to defend and free their homes from the Nazi occupation as much as everyone else. Just because war is the "business" of men doesn't mean that all the women are going to lay down and die if their village is attacked.
@@EIA-ObserverGreat point. Many Women in feudal Japan were skilled with a blade for such purposes.
They didn't really protect their villages because women are biologically much weaker. Besides legends there is no proof of women warriors.
When losing a battle and being invaded it was more likely for Germanic women to take their own lives
Some of it might be cultural, but there have been a number of women who have taken up arms, usually I think to defend their home (I am using that as city/town/villiage not as state). One of the funnier things I always notice when activists throught out historical figures as examples is how much they go for populatity instead of accuracy.
As an example, they would use Joan of Arc as an example of a French warrior woman instead of Jeanne Hachette. While the latter was only in a single battle defending her city, my understanding is that she was involved in a lot more than Joan was in any given battle, like actually taking up arms, running into the frontline, and killing people.
Similarly, I think all of the accounts I have heard of with shieldmaidens fighting, it was either a group which lost (ie, they were desperate enough to let anyone in to try and swell their numbers) or women defending the city they lived in.
@@starfox300 Of course they did. In Norse culture, women took care of her village. The house, the farm and families. Thats why she was buried with the key to their home.
Warrior is a broad title that where commonly given to men. Not confirmation there were no women who protected their homes.
Having scholars rewriting history for an ideology is an afront to science...
And history and they need to be kicked out of any academic anything!
This all happened in the 1920's too. Re writing history is a common trope for the elite to keep narratives in line.
Neonazism at its finest!
Welcome to the world post 2016.
If a woman doing traditionally male tasks makes them "men in women's bodies" doesn't that prove their own misogynistic beliefs? It seems less about men and women and more about glorifying violence and suppression over compassion and freedom. ("Masculine" & "feminine" traits)
Trying to apply logic to understand insanity
@@celsus7979 not to understand, to discredit and expose
Yup, nailed it.
Indeed, women and non-warriors needed to protect their homes and children. so they would know how to use weapons and some combat skills.
In some cultures, there is a custom of women assuming male roles and even wearing male clothes. For example - balkan tribal communities in Montenegro and Albania. However, they are still what they are - WOMEN acting like men, not transgender men.
I stumbled onto this channel this morning...I'm so glad I did, absolutely enlightening sense of objectivity and honesty, as well as truth! Thank you for the specificity and commitment to being accurate and not just popular like so many others! Much love from NC, U.S.!!!
Trying to say the Norse cross dressed is hilarious. The worst insults for men was being called a woman. A man or woman could divorce their spouse for cross dressing. Not to mention how hyper masculine the culture was.
@DarkMark-cf1ec Boscha posh in Afghanistan 👍
@DarkMark-cf1ecNot sure about the idea of mutation coming with progression, though
@DarkMark-cf1ec I don't know that one singular fact is enough prove what we were talking about. You need a little bit more info to go on.
@DarkMark-cf1ecDid you really see mice cross dressing (ie your comment about "Mouse Utopia")?
@DarkMark-cf1ec
I would cautiously suggest that once all the concerns with survival are met, then minds stray into other ways of staying occupied...
In early middle ages they probably had more stuff to vorry about than transgender lol.
Me when 2 of my 8 siblings die so I have an extra bean for dinner 💃 💃 💃
The entire notion didn't even exist.
Me being sarcastic:
Technically, I guess, you could say that some of the slavic men who were to be sold into slavery in Muslim lands had their manhood cut... yeah, so you could argue that there where trans people in medieval era. /s
Me when my comrades die of dysentery in a siege: 😵😵😵
@@johnmanole4779 those are not trans, its a different thing you know
The transexual viking article is probably one of the most misogynistic shit I ever read lmao. The whole argument being "Oh look, there were women that did male expected tasks, that must mean they identified as men" is crazy 💀 and it bothers me a lot.
So many strong women that fought during those hard times just for some random dude to say they were trans man 😭
which implies the article was probably not written by a trans person at all, but by a bad activist or someone who purposefully wants to make us look bad; aka. a troll
or a woman did have to do "masculine" things, because her husband, was on a viking raid/trade expression. She need to defend the homestead, and bring the family's case in trade and politics disputes.
@@kirgan1000 Exactly, that was certainly fairy common during war time and most of women probably did that type of "male" tasks. Still, there were also a lot of female warriors. Of course they were infrequent proportionally to the amount of men that were in war, but not rare. For example; there was a Spanish Knight order during the Reconquista entirely made of women called the "Order of Hatchet".
@@chibibeetle I agree, It could just be a bad activist or a trans person that simply is an idiot and a wrong example of the community. But what I am sure is that it is not a Troll. In the internet I have seen lots of stupid things said from diverse topics that are certainly far worse than this and they weren't being satirical so x)
@@ChihiroOfAstora Did not know about "Order of Hatchet" it was a interesting reading.
In Sweden did have a "rote" system, then 10 farmers did support a professional soldier, that did work on the soldiers farm, then he was training or out in war.
In almost every war, one wife (or more) chose to follow her husband to war, then to be separated. She was disguised as a man, but it was a open secret within the battalion, and was send home if a officer was "forced" to notice it.
The most (in)famous did take command (on a small ship) after the officers was killed in combat, and was made honorary Capten, and was given a pension.
But that was only a handful, out of tens of thousands of soldiers
It's like these people have never read about Shield Maidens, have never read about Norse culture, or have never seen the barely historically accurate show Vikings.
Or heard of tomboys, because for all their claims otherwise these people really believe in gender roles.
@Simple-xo1jj You should probably read some archaeological records regarding Shield-Maidens and female warrior burials across the Norse world. There are also a number of both Norse and Roman sources talking about female warriors.
@1Flagwaver that's bull my dude, it's a feminist archeologist that invented norse female warriors because they found women burried with shield and swords. But in fact noble women were being buried with theses things because of their status and had nothing to do with fighting.
@@Thesavagesouls Hjalmar Stolpe was not a feminist in the 1870's when he discovered the grave of the first Shield Maiden. Neither was Berit Vilkans in the 1970's when he identified those remains as definitely being female and having healed injuries consistent with combat.
In France we have a far left historian called Lucie Malbos who write that the woman of Birka is a transgender only because we thought she was a man when the grave was discovered but we discovered later that she was a woman. Yes, it is not even a historical or scientifical method. The fact that people like Lucie Malbos can say this kind of things and still be considered as historians makes me losing hope for the future of history (and I am a history student specialized in medieval Scandinavia). Thank you for your video, you contribute to make students like me to stay strong enough to keep working with a real method and to keep looking for the truth, not to push forward a political ideology. Again thank you !
Frenc and rewriting history goes hand in hand this doesn't surprise me
@@1chibanKasuga No, French and rewriting history does not go hand in hand. There are many very good and professional historians in France. But we have a very noisy and loud minority of completely indoctrinated historians who are always the ones who are invited to speak. It is a sad situation and I hope one day things will turn in a better way but for now we are far from being out of this
@@1chibanKasuga No? You know nothing about France
I mean... We kinda messed up the national tale though...
"Nos ancêtres les gaulois..."
Nope. Gauls is a nickname, thank you.
And franks being germans has been... Not entirely swept under the rug but still... Not very advertised.
@@MW_Asura i know more than the average french. Stop being butthurt by truth
Hello. Im from Sweden and I remember they talked about this woman in a documentary but they just called it a woman and suggested there could have been cases of women as warriors among the vikings, they never speculated about this nonsense about "transgender".
hi, i'm Swedish and i missed this story entirely
true this transgender stuff is all BS
Darn it! Metatron preventing me from rewriting history according to my own fantasies again! Almost as if there is an objective truth out there for better or for worse. Love those 72 wings dude!
God you have no idea how much i dispise this modern concept of "My truth."
It contradicts the term Truth in its core. There is Perception and opinion. And The Truth.
And Truth is based on universal proof we can all objectively see. Like gravity. Mo matter how i personally feel or percieve it. If i jump off a chair ill fall. I can't fly because of my truth.
Truth is one's best understanding of reality. That's why what can be considered true based on the evidences can change due to more evidences or some of the previous ones shown as fallacious.
Reality ? Does not change. Does not depend on the ability to grasp it to come to "the truest truth on that subject".
Now, this is scientific method. A place that deals with uncovering truths from reality. If we were to find a Pegasus, evolution would still mostly be true but we'd have to work hard on the reality of said Pegasus to add the missing reality parts in the truth of the evolution puzzle.
Most people have not learned the method, nor semantics. That's why they come out with truth is subjective, when truth is relative. Reality is objective, no matter how the "truth" denies it.
@@celiand2618 actually, true is the characteristic of a speech that corresponds to reality.
@@epistemax close enough. Not entirely "true" though. But it's good enough for a colloquial use.
Just never forget that geocentrism used to be true.
@@celiand2618 Generally yes but i'd formulate it a tad diffrently to be a bit more direct.
Reality is what is. Our method to discover reality is based on the current state of evidence and is called The Truth. The truth is no absolute and can by new discoveries be updated, but is heavily tied to trsts and objective evidence.
The concept of "My Truth" skips the need for tests and objective evidence. It takes personal feelings and perception as truth. As reality even.
A good example here a Tomato. Most people percieve and feel its a vegtable. We often pair it with Vegtables, its not sweet oe fruity in taste. So "My Truth" would be a tomato is a vegtable.
But "The Truth" is bssed on tests, breaking down a tomatos dna and sciengifically correctly categorizing it as fruit. As its entire way to grow and structural makeup count as objective evidence everyone can read, understand. Even recreate by replicating the test process. As such we figured out the current state of truth of the matter by research.
So generally i totally agree, i'd just clarify it a bit diffrent tbh.
I subbed to you because you tell the truth which is becoming a lost and highly sought after commodity in the "Modern" time. Thanks for this the truth IS AWESOME and we need lots more of actual logic and truth
I guess those “experts” have never seen two soldiers who are friends clinging to each others hands as they are dying? One male friend guiding and comforting another through extreme pain or grief? They seem to forget also, that holding hands isnt exactly sexual in latin cultures.
If they would see that theyd write thirsty fanfiction about it in an instant, pointing out how thicc one soldiers thighs are.
In Muslim and Indian culture, the least gay-friendly cultures on Earth, holding hands is common between male friends.
Oggi ho avuto una giornata abbastanza del cavolo, appena ho visto che hai caricato il video sono corsa a guardarlo. Non sai quanta compagnia mi tieni e quanto imparo dai tuoi video. Grazie per tutto il lavoro che fai ☺️
Grazie a te Cecilia.
@@metatronyt Ah yes, your very materialistic and critical lens of history has contributed so much to academia. (I’m being sarcastic). The problem with the article you read is not that it comes to maybe a not so well researched conclusion, but how it gets to that conclusion. It is incredibly unreliable to determine the sex of a skeleton let alone the gender. But that is the problem, that skeleton’s gender was defined by anatomy, which is transphobic (sex is not the same as gender). It is foolish to blame the mistakes of an article about transgender skeletons on the nebulous “left” (not that you would know what would be considered “left”). Queer people are not an ideology nor are they apart of one. They are people with different opinions and incentives that have existed throughout all of recorded history. I would stop looking at the world through an ideology but through a science; while considering the thoughts, emotions and conditions of others. I guarantee you that whatever made up story you cover or obscure articles you analyze without context will not solve your problems. Co-opting scientific analysis for legitimizing fascist ideology will hurt everyone in your position including yourself in the long run. There is no woke left trying to take away your rights, there is only the powerful and wealthy elite that steal from the labor of working class people like yourself (I assume that you don’t own other workers). The two party system, liberal ideology (look up liberalism), and your material conditions have made fascist ideology appealing for you. As I’ve already stated, this is not the correct option. The correct option would be to look at the world through a critical lens and consider the “other” not as a monolith but as people that have just as much in diversity in opinions as well as various interests. Just to note that I have only watched the first part of your video, but I was a viewer of your channel before it became political and have watched some of your newer content.
@@metatronyt Una parentesi di buon senso in un mondo che non ne ha più 🙂
Remember when historical revisionism was considered a _bad_ thing?
Pepperidge Farm remembers
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, - Pepperidge Farm remembers! That's awesome!
_Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped_
Notice how they go after any historical thing that's currently popular? They really don't want "the bros" to like anything, so they straight up lie about it.
@@amicableenmity9820 anything that can reinforce masculinity.
@@actuallyKriminell History hasn't stopped since it's merely everything that happened before ... well right now? ... it's just being twisted ... again. What's that old saw? History is written by the winners or perhaps it should be, the more you influence what is believed to be history, the more you win. Sad, but seems to be true these days.
Through research by a family member into our family tree, we found plausible connections dating back to Harold Bluetooths days, of our family living in Norway at that time (a place called Setesdal). Which means, it's not impossible for me to have actual viking seafarers in my family line. So when these "history tourists" try to re-write history, it truly rubs me the wrong way. I'm really very thankful that you call them out on their bovine excrement.
As a side note, I just want to mention that Birka is pronounced with an "ee" sound, like "bee". So "Beerka" basically. It really gave me pause when you called it "burka" haha. I do believe that particular clothing did not exist in those times, but do correct me if I'm wrong xD
Thank you for calling out the bullshite! As a scandinavian with ancestral roots that go way back, I am so sick and tired of all those who twists and turns what we know and don't know about the Vikings.
Is there anyone alive who doesn’t have ancestral roots that go way back? Sort of like saying as an adult, “As someone who had a childhood…”
I’m Croatian Scottish and Norwegian. It’s in my blood. And none of this gender bullshit went on back then. None of it, they would probably laugh in your face after you were slaughtered if you uttered any of this putrid drivel.
Me too, my grandmother did a dna test turns out she’s go 10% Iceland floating about, which I thought was pretty cool
@@Darkstar-qb3dh That is cool! Fun fact, back in 2001 a study showed that only 37% of the female settlers of Iceland orginated from the Nordic countries but 62% from the British Isles, and 80% of the male settlers originated from Norway and other Scandinavian countries. Taken together these results suggest that the settlers of Iceland were by and largly Nordic males and british women.
Articles like this are written by the same people who think Joan of Arc was “trans” despite her dressing as a man was never contested, and she never gave any indication she suffered gender dysphoria, and there is much evidence to suggest her dressing ad a male was for tactical/strategic reasons, and passed as a man for support and leadership purposes.
They want to transpose their activism upon the past with no historical context. Very good point there was no evidence of dysphoria
Not to mention that putting armor in probably could be considered "dressing as a man" until pretty recently.
@@themadmattster9647 Not "us", just the person who wrote the article
@chibibeetle
I appreciate what you're doing out here. More trans people need to stand up against the activists because this animosity from most people is where that is starting to come from. Keep fighting the good fight, and show everyone you just want to pass. Aside from your profile picture, which reminds me of that awful assigned male webcomic, I give you my blessings to be strong and willing to call out the crazies. Godspeed.
@@Drako9823 aw shit, what webcomic is it?
it's a self-portrait drawn by me years ago, i'll change it soon lol
Another thing about Viking/Norse/Scandinavian culture at the time was that warrior or not, women were expected to take up arms and defend the home while the men were away. Some of these women buried with armor and weapons could have been just that. Wives, daughters, sisters who took up their husband/father/brother(s) arms to defend the home if it was attacked by enemies, or raiders so just wandering thieves. Such women would likewise have been given such honors at burial if they died in such a battle.
Doesn't even have to be that they were defending their homes or anything like that.
Weapons, especially swords, and armour were expensive asf - and being buried with one would show prestige, material wealth and possibly brining wealth into the after life.
It doesn't even prove that they were female warriors/shieldmaidens.
Sick and tired of activists pretending to be historians and just releasing whatever the fuck news and findings, to further political activism and get clout.
Exactly, the saga have example of women who pick up weapons, to defend themself and the home, and of course they will be honored to the fullest if they did die defending the home-village.
And if some of those women lost their homes, or otherwise got an axe to grind, they could very well pick up the weapons and go on the offence. I don't think it matters too much whether they strictly just defended their homes or if they took up arms as more dedicated warriors (although it's an interesting topic). We know Norse women fought, and we know some of them were honoured for it (there are some mentions in texts, aside from the findings in the graves). But don't call them trans men just because of that. That's just sexist.
In North every woman despite social status weared knife for selfdefence, was it animal or human who atacked didnt matter. So they were aware how to fight. Men were often away from home, to fight or to hunt or to fish on sea , so they couldnt defend them all time around. It wasnt time when you call police to come help you and usually nearest neighbours house was far away and also occupied with women only bc their men were at work also. At that time women were strong bc you needed survive, same was with men, who wasnt strong and cappable didnt survive, it is called natural selection. Nowdays there isnt need for all that and natural selection on this side of life doesnt work anymore.....what is clearly feltable.
That is speculation but not far fetched as defense of the home by women also happened in the United States and Canada during the Colonial periods. Women took up arms to defend their homes against Native American attacks. But people are forgetting that Weapons and Armor costs a lot of money and wealth in the Viking Age and later and since it would have been infrequent periods for women to use them, it would hardly have seen likely that such a heavy investment would have been made for them.
As a Norwegian, this is so hillarious and a big slap in the face to us.
This is offensive to our history.
didnt vikings have an extremely offensive insult that was something like "you lay with men" and if someone said it to you, you had to kill them, i remember something like that on QI
Every episode of QI I tried to watch had something terribly incorrect about the world. And I am that guy who finds small mistake in the encyclopedia because I read so much...
@@Midgard-training thats the thing
we had about 4 insults that went that way witch one where they using
You think these people would bother to do any research? (Especially inconvenient research that would instantly shatter their deluded views and ideologies)
Yes several, ragr, stroðinn,sorðinn the most common.
Honestly that people think it's sensible to look at the past through modern lenses or ideals at all is absurd and very damaging. I feel you Metatron. I have Far leftists and Far rightists in my family and being fairly neutral means only getting told that I am on the opposite side of their beliefs instead of in the middle trying to stand up with logic and reason.
Good job on staying neutral.
To be honest that's probably the best thing you can do around people like that.
I absolutely hate the mentality of "If you ain't with us, you're against us" the only thing politics does is divide us, and distract us from the shady things our government is currently doing.
I sincerely appreciate that during your debunking, you took a moment to address the validity of the idea that some people in antiquity still may have lived with gender dysphoria. Far too often, people who want to debunk these things want to do it as a sort of take down to trans people, the fact that you're stressing that it's about truth, not politics, and still offering acknowledgement to people with non-typical gender identity is a breath of fresh air. Thank you for being truly noble.
Gender dysphoria is as much about choice of description as your experience. Anyone before that was a popular explanation probably didnt jump to that
Absolutely. As I say on the video I am not qualified to talk about Gender Dysphoria and what it actually means to suffer from it, but it is a condition and as such it's very likely that it occurred in the past as well, just like any other condition. Just because people in the bronze age didn't understand psychology or hormones or any other thing about the human condition, it doesn't mean they didn't suffer the conditions they didn't know could exist. Thanks for the nice comment
“We hate toxic masculinity”
“Viking raiders and grapers and murderers where transgender, slayyy”
"I hope you enjoyed this video ..... I did not."
😂
Dude, you're very good.
Please keep it going.
Your fight against the 21st century death of academia on the altar of socio-political billshit is absolutely a noble cause.
I salute you.
Gus xox ❤
Never stop debunking these false lies, it is so important to keep history pure and fact based. Great work as always!
The fact that you think history has ever been pure says a lot.
@@fuzzborneI like the part where they added mythological kings to the royal line to make it look longer.
I heard if this trans Viking warriors, yrs ago actually, from my grandmother. She told me: “ no matter what they say, Vikings were trans, black, warriors that took over Inner Mongolia
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Kekw😂😂😂😂
Inner Mongolia? They must have had a layover on their way to fuedal Japan!
Yes. They conquered parts of Mongolia, but could not manage to establish a lasting beachhead in Japan.
There is the famous Saga about thor having to dres up as a woman(freja) to get his stolen hammer back. All the other gods laugh at him and ridicule him for dressing as a woman even though he dos it to get the hammer back, he himself dont want to do at first. This shows how much it matteret to not be seen as femenim.
One cannot use mythology in this case.
@@coleparker why not? it says alot about values in the northen socierty. It’s not like there is any other text you Can use
norse mythos or the eda saga was writen roughly 400 years after the viking era by christians. meaning for the most part the north mythos is considered not a valid sourch material as a reference to norse culture. consider A. Centuries later. B. political/religious bios and C. myths were spread more often through the word of mouth and rarely documented meaning its origin is muddied and intepret different depending on location and region. this is why constent evidence is the only accurate source we have.
@@dendrien no not 400 years. The eddas and Saxo was written in edda: 1120’ties and Saxo 1170’ties so about 120 years after 1066, the most Common date for the end of the viking age and yes they where writting by 2 Christians, but 2 people eager to preseve the oral traditions of there people. They are Are also the only texts we have written by scandinavians themself. So if we cant use Them there is nothing we Can use. No Odin, no Thor no nothing.
@@dendrien I agree with that assessment. That is why, I maintain that in order to really determine whether or not the Norse woman in burial mentioned in the article, or any other so called shield maiden skeleton, is to do a detailed forensic analysis of the bone structures. There will be certain diagnostic elements present, eg, sword cuts on bone, built up bone structures, etc. that can determine that.
Agreed! This is a big problem in modern resurgent paganism - where historical 'evidences' are filtered through modern world concepts that were completely alien to old world civilisations. Yet, simply pointing out such facts will get you villified in response.
I like my dog, coffee and maybe 3 people!
Certain people want a religion that caters explicitly to their worldview. And so there's no real need to apprehend things as they were; presentism wipes away any need for real scholarship.
That is true. The revival attempts I have seen in ‘Paganism’ (or I like to call them, the Old Ways) appear to be extremist far left or extremist far right. 😂
I wait for the Claim that the European colonies were Run by black people since some colonizers were Born in africa
We live currently in 2024. Is there any person alive, who realy knows Rituals of long ended cults/ religions? I doubt.
Do the "muslim" viking one next. They found "Arabic" scripture. Aka a gown with Arabic writing. That's it
😂 They traded with Arabs so no surprise. Arab coins were used as pendants too I doubt they were Muslim. But, hey anything is possible! Some may have indeed converted, we can’t be 100% certain.
It's almost like trade was a thing isn't it 😂
Nothing proves nor denies the possibility of a muslim viking, the muslims have traded with them and trade was what caused islam to spread in many areas such us china and malasia/Indonesia
It is possible, arguably probable, but not provable neither debunkable
@@User-dyn they found a gown in Norway. It was a traded good. That's it. Yet they are taking that as a "fact", there were Muslim vikings. Even though they are buried in the viking style.
@@Tyler_Lalonde- i didn't say it was a fact, i said not to jump into conclusions either as a viking muslim(singular) could have happened and that neither side can prove a thing
I was just scrolling TH-cam, when I stumbled upon this channel, I absolutely love the non-political bias. It’s genuinely a breath of fresh air and I will certainly be subscribing.
What if she wasn't even a warrior, and was simply buried with her husband's gear
Yes. If he died away from home, she would have to make sure that he was armed in the afterlife. They had all kinds of ideas.
But surely the women were not left defenseless when vikings were away on raids. They, the women, would have weapons, since the army were away, and no police existed.
He brought that up.
@@debanydoombringer1385 I didn't even watch it that long. All this alphabet soup stuff makes me sick
Also she had clothing from the eastern steppes.
This is what is 99.9999% true.
I have had so many discussions (read: arguments) with people who insist on looking at history through the lens of how we see things today. They just can't grasp a concept where their notions could be either right or wrong, that it isn't that way necessarily but COULD be. Without context, without factual information, the issue can't be totally resolved. They don't understand hypothesis or theory, just "this is the way it is now so it has to be the way it was back then because we didn't just come up with this "fact" out of our imagination. If we could think about it, they could think about it the same way. My usual reply is "okay sunshine, show me three sources of academic writing where these things are discussed, with footnotes and at least secondary (preferably first) sources, and peer reviewed. At that point they tell me I'm stupid and walk away. Way to back up a "fact". :) Love your channel, Metatron, always get something good out of it.
If two humans are dying next to one another, even if the hate each other, they will often hold hands. This has nothing to do with sexual attraction.
Holding hands in a stressful situation, and little is more stressful than dying, is a human trait. It's why people don't want to die alone. The dying reach out, it is a natural human reaction.
They want to sexualize even that.
exactly what i was thinking. I wasnt clear if this was a burial or just found. He said burial one time, so it might have been a formal burial which would mean the bodies would have been arranged that way. In that respect that would be unusual. but if they were bodies found, and no evidence its an actual gravesite (totems left with the body etc) then yeah i agree with you. I was going to go look it up for myself and see if i could find out more about it.
What a stupid thing to write. You both say that "uh oh sometimes maybe idk when people die they hold hands i guess" and "BUT I AM 100% CERTAIN THERE IS NO SEXUAL ATTRACTION". You don't know and it's stupid to make bold claims.
People don't want to die alone because of evolution. The cavemen that did die alone didn't reproduce as often. The cavemen that didn't had better genes and got to reproduce.
I know this is an older video and likely nobody will see this comment…but…
As a non-religious, politically neutral, anthropologist-I can tell you with absolute confidence that this current trend of “modern rewriting” of history, is reviled/mocked/rebuked within the main community and is not taken seriously.
The community as a whole, still adheres to and strongly advocates for the practice of “academic neutrality”, in the study of mankind/cultures.
Which is precisely why the people who *PUSH* this type of unverified nonsense, take the usual route of going directly “to the people” and use the tactic of artificially amplifying their claims online-as a way to rewrite history, by using a grassroots cultural/pop cultural method (thus making it seem like a “widely accepted” new discovery).
Which it obviously isn’t.
But even though none of their claims are peer reviewed and aren’t accepted by the wider world of academia (I’m not saying this community isn’t flawed and that it doesn’t make mistakes, it definitely does-but it has numerous failsafes put into place, that are meant to try and curtail “false positives” on new discoveries, in an attempt to minimize accidentally spreading misinformation to the public)…sadly their methods are still very effective and are able to sway a large portion of people (mostly those who are already primed/wanting to believe such information) into now thinking that these wild claims are the new “immutable facts” of history.
It’s a very concerning and frustrating trend.
That is why I’m very grateful for channels like this one.
People with sizable enough platforms and strong enough spines, to speak out against this blatant unverified propaganda-no matter how much pushback you may receive-is an absolutely invaluable aid in trying to stop this nonsense.
Because left unchecked, these guerrilla tactics are basically effective enough to erase and rewrite anything in history…
Which will only ensure dooming the future to repeat the very worst of it.
(Disclaimer: I’m not saying there is absolutely *0% chance* that there were “trans Vikings”, or that this DEFINITELY isn’t “proof” of there being so. I’m simply saying that there isn’t nearly enough/any peer reviewed evidence/proof to backup those claims-and the very fact that these sort of “discovery” claims usually go out of their way to avoid following any/all of the proper scientific procedures/protocols, in order to support their “discoveries”…automatically leads people like me to assume that it is nothing more than wildly unscientific speculation and unfounded bombastic propaganda. Their unprofessional “methodology” leaves me with no other choice than to come to that conclusion. If they ever rectify their mistakes, go through the proper process and are able to show substantive proof for their “trans Vikings” argument-I am MORE than happy to change my position on the matter. But until that day comes….🤷♀️).
What a time to be alive💀
I mean it shows that there are no real problems to worry about, at least in some parts of the world. So it's also a good thing I guess. At least partially.
Hello, fellow scholars!
@@sihilius You'd think, yet the countries where this heresy goes on (i.e the west) is a crumbling cesspit of drug addicts, homelessness, collapsing economy, rampant crime etc etc.
Thank-you for keeping sane and for clearing up false rewriting of history and cancel culture. Like you said, far too many people look at the past with a modern lens, which leads to cancel culture and people trying to make it seem as if what we're dealing with today was part of past cultures like it is today.
I'm totally against cancel culture because you can't rewrite history. Of course we can't know every single thing that happened in the past, but we can avoid looking at it with our modern points of view and acknowledge that bad things happened and that things were not viewed the same as they are today. People need to remember that and get over trying to push their agendas on to history.
I (being a 60 y.o./20 yr. Veteran) had, in my earlier life, considered educators to be the vanguard of truth and history. Sadly, no longer can I apply such sentiments to the majority of contemporary K-12 educators and a growing number of Collegiate ideologues. To those who say "I'd like to see you do better" be assured I hold 4 Associate degrees and a Baclelors in Middle Grades Education specializing in Social Studies and Mathematics. Sadly, there is no place in public education for someone of my convictions, experience, and age. Let us hope that this channel grows so that thruth will out. Thank you, sir.
I have my own hang ups over religion, but .. if you really want company join up with your local church group or pagan circle.
My local county area that have a few pagan circles are also in foam weapon larp fighting.
My old friend that ran a D&D and "magic the gathering" card gaming shop, his daughter grew up arguing word math problems on how the crunch numbers for the best social/ attack modifiers loved Star Wars and foam weapon fighting.
She is crewed on a Us navy ship running senor equipment, 3rd best female pipe/lightsaber fencer and 5th best shield & club fighter on ship. The other woman and three men just above weight class her.
Half my larp club daughters join the military just to show up the other women & men. Sadly what they grew up around in high school and who is willing to join for the long term for larp padded shield bash to the face. They had to leave our hometown to find anything close to a real man like their fathers.
G*D sakes, three of the fathers nick names are Ogre because they are just that big. Two of the young women grew up with the broad shoulder built of a power lifter. Dam near 14 years ago since I am now 46years old. A 14 year old girl tackle me to the ground and laugh it off and my back got popped. Yeah, I was done trying to keep up with hyperactive teenagers.
You are a person with .. stories .. find a young group and pass the tales down to the next generations.
Hope you have a good day, and G*D bless.
See if more teachers were like you I wouldn’t be planning on homeschooling my child😂 but I live in Vermont, where they decided to “take gender terminology out of sex Ed” and they wonder why illiteracy is becoming such a problem. The revival of illiteracy, I never thought I’d see it😂
@@krispalermo8133 Reading both of these comments has made me feel like I have come to the right place and I’m among my people😂😅 I have a spiritual practice, and yes I have found that the further into it I get the more ridiculous I find this gender narrative to be. I also find it to be extremely harmful spiritually. You’re right about churches, I’ve been thinking about finding one up here. As odd as my teenage self would find this, I find that their views actually line up more with mine than say, some atheist liberal group. I can’t believe that saying I believe in two genders is now considered to be hateful. I feel like I’ve had the rug yanked out from under me.
@@timetravelkitty425 Thank you for your kind replies.
Funny enough, a church near me that functions as a voting location my old friend, she said, ..
" Surprise that old church ladies talk about playing D&D ? Ironic enough we are now old ladies that grew up playing D&D."
From our point of view the last 15years just blew by.
Offhand I prefer other RPG systems than current D&D, but word math problems and dealing with social outcomes help train people to think and deal with moral/ethical inter actions. D&D more or less done away with alignments system while other systems moral is a big part of Vampire.
Whitewolf/World of Darkness (WoD) vampire, mage, werewolf, and changeling comes under fire more than a few times over the years on how they display or .. act/role play .. derangements/ mental health problems, but my last group was good at displaying how to work with derangements. We just respond that we just let our guard down let our own personal mental hang up out in the open.
We were really good at snapping at c0ps and church religious people slamming on people role play.
Azz holes, " Well you should play lawful good ! "
Our reply, " Good people don't need laws to treat people with polite respect, you don't want respect you want azz kissing and fear."
In vampire you have 1 to 10 ranking on morality. 4 to 5 is most common.
Morality/ humanity of 3, will lie, cheat, steal, manslaughter, and plan crimes to rob people of their property and kidnapping. More or less everything the c0ps come under fire for since Vampire came out during the 1990's.
Sorry to be negative or hateful.
WoD: Mage Awakening is a great book, they more or less took Wiccan and everything else and put it to 1d10 dice pool mechanics and apply an RPG setting to it. Other than books before the 2000's, there are plenty TY videos covering circle magic and astral beings, .. what did Yoda say to Luke about not being this crude matter ?
Other than all the fear mongering from tv preachers about now being once again " In the time of Noah."
If G*D is meant to be simple, why ALL THE COMPLAICATIONS ?
.. sorry for shouting.
J3ws, nothing lasts forever.
Muslims, nothing lasts forever.
Xtians, burn in a lake of fire for all eternity.
Hindu, .. behold the wonders and relax. well, more or less.
Do I needs to start scripting my own videos ?
Hope you have a good weekend, and G*D bless.
@@timetravelkitty425I graduated in 2019 and there's no way in Hell I'd put my kids through the public school system to experience what I did. If I have kids, they will be homeschooled or go to a private school if I can afford it.
I greatly appreciate channels like this existing. Speaking the truth and looking at things, where the only goal is to be historically accurate, is incredibly rare and important
its funny how much they love strong women, until they actually find one, then suddenly it must have been a trans person...
Oddly male-centric innit?
@@Drako9823 almost patriarchal maybe
Lol.
Ha ha very wise observation. 🦉
Excellent comment.
@Metaron, So vikings were able to do trans gender surgery? Impressive, and here I thought they just landed on the moon first.
There were women warriors. the odds are there were a few at least. perhaps Metatron, you need to do a an episode on warrior women of various cultures? put these activists in there place! Great video, Keep up the great work.
Space Vikings? I swear those exist! Lmao
Wouldn't even have to be a "woman warrior." If her village was raided and she fought back and took out a few herself before going down they'd have probably buried her with honors, a warriors honors.
@@tarrantwolf Hence the title warrior not exclusive. Something people often forget is you earn the title as often as train for it.
No one has claimed that they performed Trans surgeries.
@@CB-THE-OGmy grandma told me, that it doesn't matter what anyone says. Space vikings were a thing.
through modern eyes...isn't that called anachronism, and one of the well known fatal pitfalls of all historians?
Or presentism.
I am glad someone is brave enough to take the heat by confronting lies of those subverting historical truths for modern delusions.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinarily large headlines.
"I hope you enjoyed this video, I certainly did not!" 🤣 I don't know why you didn't come up on my homepage sooner, but I'm subscribing. I'm all about truth in history and archeology. You presented all the possibilities, and pointed out that since they removed the artifacts and remains from where they were found it's impossible to infer anything from them. positioning of the artifacts and remains is almost more important than the items themselves in order to unravel the mystery that is our shared human history.
I notice they also completly ignore the possibility that in a warrior society a woman doing something courageous, like say taking up arms to defend her village against raiders and not surviving couldn't have ended with her people giving her their highest honors, being buried as a warrior.
We have well documented history of viking, Irish, British, scottish, warrior Woman from the Roman period up to the early Renaissance period.
I mean the Vikings, Scottish, and Irish all had female war goddesses.
@@williamgosvener47 yeah, on rare occasions you'd find the odd woman out. Differences between men and women made female warriors exceptionally rare though. You're not one of those people that think there are no differences are you?
@tarrantwolf no, I fully recognize the difference between men and women. That said women often knew how to use weapons.
@williamgosvener47 Doesn't matter. Doesn't make them warriors. America has one of the highest, if not highest amount of civilians with weapons. A lot of them trained as well. Do you mean every one of them, just because they know how to use a weapon, is a soldier? Don't be ridiculous.
They have very set gender roles. They are just a lot different from what we think are set-in-stone gender roles.
Imagine having your and your homie's grave dug out in the 21st century and getting mistaken as a gay couple just because you both grew up side by side, had a strong brotherhood, went to war together, witnessed your empire succeeding and being defeated in a war, and you kissed each other good night every day until the day you both died.
I am old enough to remember when “Whiggish History” was a denunciation of a historical argument. Applying modern standards to the actions and motivations of historic figures is ultimately fruitless.
I hope you will read this, not related to the topic but i couldn't believe it when i saw it: at 4.34 the camp shown in the video is made by my reenactment group!!! I can't believe we appeared in one of your videos 😁😁😁😁😁
Oh ok, I was wondering how he got stock footage from the medieval period!? Jk, that’s awesome. There’s companies out there keeping history alive. Not trying to rewrite it!
I have a request, since you have such great connections in the world of archaeology, could you look into the link between Jesus and Zoroastrianism?
Cyrus, first called messiah, was almost certainly a Zoroastrian and changed the Jewish religion forever.
I want to know if original translations could bring light to the following:
When Jesus told the Jews they worshipped the Devil, was he referring to YWH?
When Jesus spoke of the spirit of truth was it referring to a person or event and did he imply he didn’t trust the apostles to properly relay his words?
Jesus spoke of “hell” as destruction, not torment, only using fire in one metaphor, could this have been a hint to Zoroastrianism?
Finally, 3 Magi (not Rabbi) came from the East, not North from the seat of God’s power.
Coincidentally 3 moralistic religions exist to the east, each containing one of the three defining aspects of Christianity that makes it alien to Judaism:
Heaven/Good God vs Devil/Hell: Zoroastrianism.
The concept of Sin and the necessity to work towards redemption: Buddhism.
A Holy Trinity featuring a Heavenly Father and Holy Son who triumphs over the wicked: Taoism.
Could you please look into this for me?
I have had some spiritual experiences but want things more concrete and lack the resources.
In case he doesn't reply (or do the video), I thought I'd provide you a link to an interesting channel that discusses various religions, beliefs, and esoteric ideas. You may come across some of the information you're looking for. www.youtube.com/@TheEsotericaChannel
I can't promise a video but I will look into this. I'd suggest to follow me on Twitter/X where I post opinions and discoveries that don't make a full video. Thank you for your generous donation.
I don't know how much it helps, but I remember starting a book called the "Origin of Satan" which talked about the Judeo-Christian rise of divine evil (for lack of a better term). Basically, before the schism between the two, Satan was bascially the angel whose job it was to try and convince God that individual people are not worthy of whatever. Sure from a human perspective, that is evil but not nessassarily.
The author argued that one of the ways that the post schism religions snipped at each other was saying they worshiped evil ie Satan.
Some notes: I usually have trouble reading non-fiction because a lot of it is the author trying to justify the length of the work so I frequently stop early, as in this case. Secondly, I have no idea how good the sources for this are.
One of the other things which I thinks bearing in mind is that the schism between Judiasm and Christianity was not immeditate and I think funny broke roughly 100 years after Jesus died. An example I am familiar with in this is the mention Josephus has of Jesus, which is basically just a short historical record. It is a pretty contentious topic which I think is pretty debated and imo is probably an example of how the split was far from complete and probably in its infancy (or even before).
@@metatronyt Twitter does a number on my faith in humanity. Don’t worry about it. Twitter is too short to contain meaningful info as well.
It was worth a shot. Twitter is glitchy on my phone anyways. It never shows current tweets.
I'm left wing, my brother (trans man) is trans, ive watched you for years and will continue to watch you for years. keep it up metatron.
I have to occasionally stop this video, the sheer stupidity of these articles are giving me a headache. I feel bad for Metatron for having to read these more then once.
I'm not watching one of these videos until I'm heavily sedated adn in a straight jacket. Neighbors can still hear the moans of agony...
O'Brien smiled faintly. 'You are no metaphysician, Winston,' he said. 'Until this moment you had never considered what is meant by existence. I will put it more precisely. Does the past exist concretely, in space? Is there somewhere or other a place, a world of solid objects, where the past is still happening?'
'No.'
'Then where does the past exist, if at all?'
'In records. It is written down.'
'In records. And----?'
'In the mind. In human memories.'
'In memory. Very well, then. We, the Party, control all records, and we control all memories. Then we control the past, do we not?'
-George Orwell, "1984"
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They are attempting to rewrite history to fit their agenda. The past exists, to them, only to further their goals.
they are also doing this to make they fellings more justifisble and increasee the streght of the echo chamber
You forget, there are we "maniacs", something that may be forbidden by man yet Nature instills in all of us. That which will attack/escape, be free and spread to the ends of it's abilities. Those abilities in Man appear to be endless.
History is written by the victors you know 😉.
@@jeffthevomitguy1178 It's a cute saying, but no. History is often written by those who disagree with the victors. At least in a free society.
Finally a George Orwell quote that is not overused.
Algorithm hasnt recommended your vids the last 6 months, but damn have I miss your transparency and righteousness for truth.
This is an interesting video on re-writing of history. The thing is I remember stories of female pirates dressed in male clothing and stories of women who disguised themselves as a man to fight in wars when women were not allowed to fight in war.
When the article used Queen Elizabeth as an example as a woman warrior i asked why didn't they use Joan of Arc as a woman warrior or Jeanne Hachette who I just learned about looking up Joan of Arc wondering if Joan's history was going to be re-written to match today's views.
Joan of Arc’s history is already being attempted to be rewritten. Some people are trying to claim she’s “nonbinary” because she refused to wear women’s clothes and only wore men’s clothes. The reason why she did this is because it was more likely for her to be SA’d in women’s clothes than in men’s clothes, but people are deliberately choosing to ignore that
"what are you? man or a woman?"
"I'm a Viking!"
Hail odin skull
Yaaas queen!
Said no gay person ever.
Vik/ing
@@DeplorablesGarbage just to prove you wrong I am going to forge a Viking helmet eventually lol.
It’s perfectly possible to be both queer and a blacksmith.. like me!
“Rome fell because of the gays” is a hilarious statement.
Wouldn’t surprise me.
It was corruption of politicians. He is a good example.
Are there cultural conditions that encourage homosexuality?
And you dont know that bubonic pestile killed just gay persons in medieval age, so thats why there are so few in modern ages.
@@JohnVander70 Yes
It is really hard to grasp that different times had different views on things. The older one gets the more clear it comes due to perspective of personal experience. Equally so to concepts about sexuality and gender and actions between people. Not to mention when it comes to different cultures and even different eras in cultures history.
It seems that its almost worse if one knows little about the subject rather than nothing at all.
Great video and well handled. Always into the facts. 👍
I think that is the bit to understand. Things like the nuclear family or children's rights and the nation-state are more recent than they look like from our short look.
Your Channel and the WF channel are the only reason why I'm still on this platform. Thanks for carrying the torch in these treacherous times. (2024 )
There's an old Scandinavia and the world comic where America asks england about his obsession with cross dressing in comedy (panto, the old comedy films like money python etc) England has flashbacks to Romans in skirts and vikings with braids and ribons in their hair and jokes he "uses comedy to deal with trauma"
I’m a simple man. I see Metatron, I watch.
And I click the like button directly
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Ok
this is precisely what happened.
THANK YOU, Metatron! Nothing is more important than the search for truth; wether that truth is convenient for us as individuals, doesn't matter.
The constant attempts to hide the truth on account of an agenda, is very frightening.
The discovery refers to the Minnesota Vikings and their fans, not the ancient warriors. We already know they are, ahem...weird.
Aha, you are very wise, dark one 😜
More like wannabe Scandinavian LARPers
@@MW_Asura what's your opinion on the Boston Celtics?
As a bears fan, I'm just shocked this wasn't obvious to everyone.
Excuse me while I go back to my mediocre team now. Chicago is the land of sports misery.
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Oh no here we go again!? Trans Vikings now!? 😩 Oh this is torture! Why do you do this to yourself Metatron? 🤦🏾♂️
Suprised you don't believe in Trans Vikings since you seem to believe in almost every other lie told about Europe.
They probably even had gender affirming surgery
@@badplay156Eunuchs?
@@badplay156 😂
Since they want to LARP so Bad as Vikings they can do that surgery with Historical accurate Viking medicine technology and Tools, Come ON IT was normal for Vikings you say why are you running 😂?
The whole "ye olden lgbt movement" always reminds me of a National Geographic article a far-lefty sent me about examples of some places which had more than 2 genders. The examples they gave were places where people like doctors were socially assigned a third gender because a man looking at your naked wife is usually called adultery and women also need medical care and places where lesbians were considered to be a third gender.
That second example really makes the whole "ye olden lgbt movement" even funnier, because some of the lesbians (ie the one they interviewed) were really upset they were not considered women.
A point though, I have no idea how robust the actual research and accuracy of the article was.
The whole concept of “ye olden lgbt movement” is really dumb, because the word “homosexual” was coined by a German within the last two centuries. We live in an unprecedented time in that sense, so while gay/trans/whatever people have always existed, they’ve by and large just folded into traditional society, which makes both liberal activist fantasies and right-wing conspiracies idiotic.
This sounds really interesting. Do you by any chance remember the title of the article or the year the magazine was released? I would love to read it :)
It's like the 2 spirit stuff. It was an insult and they were treated as less than women, but "oh a 3rd gender so they were better than today" persists.
Same with some tribes in Africa assigning gay men as a 3rd gender. Which if you really think about it, they’re basically telling us that they don’t see gay people as equals to men and women
So why the hell would you want to accept that as an example of a third gender
LOVE HISTORY!! My 1st cousin was valedictorian cum laude in History & became a teacher at her college; L.S.U. @ Alexandria, Louisiana! Appreciate RELEVANT & ACCURATE TRUE HISTORY!!!
Let it be known as well that the Norse didn't exclusively have a word for 'homosexual', but instead used the word 'ragr' or 'argr' (meaning cowardly or effininate) as a term for homosexuals. Just something to think about, especially considering that the Norse were a warrior culture that prioritized virtues of strength and honor in battle
Most vikings were peasants, not warriors.
@@harms123 Vikings =/= Norse. I do not know if you were thinking about that.
Rag is now the name for a bad (worn out) doormat
You're such courageous about all this mess.
For the ones of the 2 males buried holding hands, could it possibly be relatives? Maybe fought in & died at same battle? Blood brothers? Yes homosexual aspect is on the table, although I think unlikely. As always superb video
Men can't be friends or express that friendship through any kind of physical touch. That's automatically gay. I think there has been a long cross-cultural history of men having intensely close bonds with other men... without having sex with them. As a gay man myself, I'm happy that I can get married and I'm not going to be stoned for being myself. However, I feel like a consequence of gay acceptance is that more behavior is seen as "gay" and straight men are less comfortable expressing deep platonic love for one another and I think that is an important part of being male.
"Bro... I don't think I'm gonna make it."
"Me neither bro..."
"Here, take my hand. Maybe we'll go to the same afterlife."
"Bro..."
@@gamera5160 I think that was the 50's lens. There's feminists and others who think men got more emotionally stunted.
In some modern cultures it's apparently perfectly normal for male friends to walk around holding hands, but if I saw two guys doing that I'd presume that they must be a couple because that's how it would be in my culture/society. This is why you have to be so careful to not impose your own worldview onto history (not always an easy thing to do because we often do it without realising).
@@gamera5160men in Arab culture like Saudi Arabia can be seen holding hands as part of culture. And it is not homosexual. Not sure how everything or anything for that matter is being tagged as gay.
As an amateur historian (currently studying for a BA degree in History), it drives me crazy when people try to apply modern concepts/ideas/perspectives to historical phenomenon. It goes against the very premise of historical study! I understand interpreting something historical in a way that makes sense to you in the modern age (it is what people do with the bible, as some of its texts just simply does not apply in modern times) BUT interpreting is not equivalent to historical fact, speculation is normal when one does not have all the facts on something but wild conjecture is not and it, quite frankly, is useless, in the further pursuit of answers. Stick to the facts people, and when you interpret something historical, use what you already know as proven facts to base your interpretation on and keep historical contexts in mind.
Exactly. Keep it even man when you become an expert. Keep it legit may man and I know you will!
Love your channel as a student of history. I do have to ask you how much of your time do you spending debunking political fake history?
Woke Vikings. Now I've heard everything.
Wokings
What was it Shane gillis said?
“Imagine vikings but gay, now thats scary”
They are Voke!
Erik the Confused.
I'm pretty sure the concept currently referred to as "gender" didn't come about until the 1950's, and wasn't adopted in the mainstream as the definition of the word "gender" until very recently.
There's a reason there isn't a word for "gender" in any other language, just different ways of saying "biological sex".
I still remember the days where such a distinction between "gender" and "biological sex" wasn't made, and I'm only 36 years old.
So to assume an ancient people's stance on the modern concept of "gender" is just meaningless.
You'd have to travel back in time and explain the concept to them, then wait a whole bunch of generations for the idea to circulate and be discussed and investigated and for some sort of consensus (which we still don't have today, I might add) to be reached before you can know what their views on it as a society would be.
Unless they did have the concept (or a similar one) and it just disappeared from our collective knowledge for quite a few centuries, which, though not impossible, is incredibly implausible (especially if there's a strong basis for the concept), and still not provable and thus meaningless to assume.
But ideology will do as ideology does I suppose.
If a woman felt as strong as a man and as warrior-like as a man she would have thought of herself as a woman that felt as strong as a man and his warrior like as a man. I doubt in those days she would have thought of herself as a man.
We support you and your work keeping history as history instead it becoming fantasy. Anyone who tries to do this or black washes a movie is a culture warrior from the certain spectrum.
We living in dangerous time. The fact that these people have powerful and rich people behind them scared me a lot. The want to change the entire story of humanity and is pure madness.
My party does not have large companies behind it. That other party does.
George Soros is richer than any company.
How about the enormous company that makes Bud Light and their trans rep that fell apart? Or Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock which is the largest investment firm who will only support companies who go "woke" and push DEI. He was trying to shuffle companies to the top which pushed trans agendas and to run the ones that didn't out of business....
So no, you are quite wrong.
In fact you are wrong any way you look at it because these huge corporations always invest in both sides of the political spectrum. Come election time you will find big Pharma money spread around the left and the right.
It’s so mad that they are actually causing the rest of us to ally against them.
I'm so fucking sick and tired of this woke nonsense
Yup white people really be obsessed with us I swear
I learned very recently, that shield maidens(as in women who actually fought in offensive combat, not defensive, such as a siege) were not only rare, they’re actually not sure there are any true cases of a genuine female warrior who participated in raids and battlefield frontlines.
Could be some women WHO we're camp followers aiding some Desperate Battle Like the Celtic barbarians did sometimes especially when the men we're cowards they killed them for dishonor
My understing is there were, if you count stuff like wearing armor and weapons and scouting the siege lines of an army outside your home. Granted, that is far from an offensive action, but I think historically, most women who tried to join the military would be disguising themselves as boys so they wouldn't be refused. I know there is a relatively famous Englishwoman who joined the navy like that hundreds of years ago.
When it because too hard to hide, she retired and opened a shipbuilding company (or something like that).
All of Scandinavia is full of rune stones, some are religious stones, to evoke the gods blessings, some are boasting stones "X built this bridge" but the the majority is memorial stones or "tombstones" for people who have died, especial for people who have die overseas, so there was no body to bury at home.
Now there are some female names of boasting stones, and some female name on the memorial stones, but the majority of the memorial stones are dedicated to warriors who did die overseas, and to my knowledge, there are no memorial stones that are dedicated to a female warrior.
So "offensive" female warrior in Norse culture, did not exist or was extremely rare. There are example of "defensive" female warriors who pick up weapons do defend themself and home. But the saga do also make a point, that the warriors was so embarrassed that a woman was more brave them they, so they rally and charge the enemy.
EDIT: Spelling error
@@kirgan1000I think you mean dedicated! I hope.😂
@@spookycat8556 yes
It’s profoundly concerning that these individuals seem to be determined to re-write history to align with their own narrative. Especially given that so many young people rely so heavily on online sources for their information. Thank you for your videos. They are oases of academic rationality amidst a landscape of idealogical insanity. x
I read the book. It said that there were female warriors not transgender.
It's 2024, females are being replaced by transwomen.
I don’t blame the archeologists, I blame the agenda pushing journalists twisting their work.
I remember when activists were going on ~10 years ago about a claim that half of Viking warriors for women. I wanted to try and read the original article but I could only find it under a paywall at the time.
When I finally found it years later, it wasn't talking about warriors. It was talking about colonists.
I like how it starts off saying vikings were known for their brutal violence buuut they may have also had transgender people. Potentially implying that progressive nature of their warriors justifies the horrible violence.
If you’ve interacted with any of the hardcore progressives, “horrible violence against anyone who doesn’t agree with them” isn’t that big of a stretch.
Just look how they treat anyone who has the gall to question their emotion-based “logic.”
Pretty terrifying. Real book-burning stuff.
It also gives ammo to the lunatics of the other side in the form of ''the vikings were violent BECAUSE they had transgender people'' or some such malarkey
these people also defend pd4 files. Give them time, "minor attracted people" are soon to join the alphabet people
Mostly peaceful trainsgender vikings.
These are also the same people who decided to prop up a Roman emperor as a trans icon. You know, the guy who was so hated that none of the accounts of him can be taken without an ocean of salt and one of the ones killed by his own bodyguard?
Given Windlass makes the Suontaka sword based on a sword found in a woman’s grave in Finland, the idea of at least armed women shouldn’t be that surprising.
I wonder if they put the transgender aspect just to grab headlines.
They have done that already. They found out few years ago that the bones actually belonged to a male. So they decided that it was a TRANS WOMAN. And this all was because there was a some woman's broach or something in the grave. It's not like that thing could not have belonged to his wife or mother.
@@petewitt3385 Makes sense, though reading into it, apparently the geneticists said the person might’ve suffered from Kleinfelter Syndrome which results in an extra X chromosome (so XXY) which can cause feminine traits to develop. That may also explain some of the feminine clothing due to that rare genetic defect.
You don't have to wonder that's exactly what they're doing
@gameragodzilla intersex and transgender are entirely different things. Finding intersex people is expected at any time in the timeline and is an actual physical mutation in the body. Transgender is just in the head. Entirely differebr things. Calling a corpse that was itnersex "trans" is extremely disingenuous and disrespectful.
I don't wonder, got to be "all inclusive" and make everyone happy! even if it's historically incorrect sans solid evidence. That's said I'll bet they were absolutely "gay" Vikings of some flavor. And heck that's also fine with me. I just hate when people disregard the scientific method and spin things with modern values to suit themselves. You just can't do that if you're trying to research history accurately. 😞
Great video!
As a Finnish person I can tell that the Nordic women are relatively strong both mentally and physically. Many of us are a bit masculine on our way, so no wonder if there has been also female warriors in the North. No reason to believe there wasn't. Life used to be hard here so they had to be tough and capable. My grandmother used to say that if the woman breaks the home breaks.
There has also been other tribes that had female warriors. I think the celts had them. And what was the tribe that used to cut the other breast away, because of their equipment? I don't remember, but I think they were only women. And in today's world many nations have female soldiers too. So I find it quite funny to even question the existence of viking female warriors. Why wouldn't there have been such?
I really wonder why those people that claim to be tolerant and whatever have those really strict rules about men and women. Why can't they accept that there are different types of men and women, others are for example more feminine and others more masculine. Why do they want to put people in those boxes as if you wasn't a real man or a real woman, but something else or even in a wrong body? How absurd is that?
My honest opinion on this: I believe shield maidens did exist. Maybe this female warrior was a noble woman. Take for example the daughter of a jarl, who was is an only child. She had to stand up for herself. What I have learned by studying Vikings, from who I am a straight descent, is that it were warriors and that it was more likely to be accepted that a woman took up the sword than when a man wanted to do household sores and wear a dress.
Why do people keep forgetting about Thor's daughters ?
They were no pushovers, if you lost your roof it was caused by upsetting a goddess.
Besides, swords had problems and spears & axes were more reliable along with more uses.
Even their saxon .. knife .. is recorded being longer than Roman gladius.
This kind of blatant re-writing of history is downright criminal
Let us come up with all kinds of radical concepts in the 2020's and go back and re-write history and FIND things that we can use to PROVE our current ideologies. TY Meta for bringing out the truth.
They have no proof.
Thank you for being a voice of sanity in this ridiculous world. The things that actually come out of people's mouths and are treated seriously, only a short time ago would have been thought to be a Saturday Night Live sketch, or a portrayal of the stupidest people in the world. Your channel reminds me that we know better, yet why the regression into idiocy?? How has it taken such hold? Apparently, only because we are "nice" enough not to shout it down, which we should change! Thank you again!