The New Hurricane Engine Is Way Better Than I Realized!
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- Today I give updates on the new Hurricane twin turbo 3.0L inline six cylinder engine!
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I love my Ram 5.7 but this sounds like a very good move. Straight 6s are a balanced design. EV trucks are jumping the gun, not apposed against the idea, batterie technology is just not there yet.
wall banger hannity
It will be interesting here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains high altitudes.
As Ford discovered, the turbos in our altitude work overtime and transmissions typically are required to run in lower gears which drastically lessons fuel economy and causes higher repair & maintenance costs.
What works “better for fuel economy without performance loss” with less cylinders and “twin turbos” are actually rated in low altitude environments.
In high altitude, to get best fuel economy and performance the v8 Hemi and 3.0l eco boost diesel simple can’t be replaced by an inline 6 twin turbo gas engine.
Can’t change the mathematical science of physics.
Déjà vu to President Carter area which also killed v8 and vehicle manufacturers all jumped on the gas turbo train which crashed in high altitudes.
Wait, at least 2 to 3 model years before jumping into a new engine, especially in high altitude applications. If don’t, get extended warranty!!
For now go with the v8 and 3.0l eco boost while they are still offered.
Agree with you on battery tech not just being there yet. I'll wait for Toyota to figure out the solid state battery.
Have they figured out long term carbon build up of DI turbo motors yet? I don't see sequential port only DI
The mfg are going this way because when tested on the epa test loop, not towing they generate better numbers. Real world, high altitude, and towing mpg might be worse but all they care about is epa and cafe stds
Just can't replace the sounds of an American V8. Makes driving more exciting even if it isn't more powerful. Absolutely love cold starting my ram, brought a smile to me for years now! V6 sounds make me sad.
Good thing this isn’t a V6!
Inline 6 sounds much better than a v6 lol.
If they would bump it up to 3.5L or 4.0L I think they would squash the competition.
Doesn’t need it. With forced induction, you don’t need a longer stroke. Shorter stroke engines are nicer to drive.
No need with larger bore/litter, coupling electrical engines will supply the torque!
Nah, I want a 6.0L for the Pickups, the cars can get the 3.5.
Look into the 2jz that are monsters from the old Toyotas. In-line 3.0 single turbo. One of the best engines of all time imo
@mdubz101 .....yes becuse of its way overbuilt cast iron block and rotating assembly. But not that special anymore ford offers mustangs with 810hp for what 45k. Warrwnty and all go grab you a base gt and the frpp blower 810 warranted hp
I bought an F-150 with a V6 ecoboost. Looked great on paper but was disappointing with on/off boost and mediocre gas mileage. Then more and more electrical equipment failures. I like my RAM 1500 eTorque Hemi much better. I am thinking it will be my forever truck.
Its the other way around, The Ram Transmission is a pile of Junk, Traded it for the V6 3.5 ,Love it
@@cessealbeach the ZF 8 speed is universally celebrated as the best automatic transmission ever.
You can electrical problems with any engine
@@cessealbeach You are the first person I have ever come across on forums complaining about a ZF 8 speed trans. Every car company from Audi to Toyota is fighting to get them in their cars. There is nothing close for dependability and drivability. You obviously don't own one.
The new 10 speeds are in my eyes , the best transmission ever built -
I drive a 2020 ram 1500 , and have zero complaints about my truck , but I’ve ridden in several 10 speed cars and trucks , and it just feels so much quicker and always seems to be in the “power band/ meat “ of the torque curve
The best thing about this new engine will be how it causes the value of used hemis to double.
Nothing will ever increase the value of a ticking time bomb, err I mean a hemi.
@@corinhoskins2011 Except a twin turbo (overly pressurized?) engine designed in Europe by Fiat/Alpha Romeo. That'll do it.
@@kidsteach938 I see you have no idea how this engine works lol. They compensate for the increases cylinder pressure by utilizing a lower compression ratio, they also open the ring gap up to compensate for increased heat output, valve overlap is also controlled by the vvt system to assist in keeping cylinder pressures in check. The biggest downfall of a turbo charged engine is consumers who treat them like carburetor V8s with low power outputs, yes you can beat the shit out of an not maintain an old engine because it doesn't make any power anyways, modern engines produce gobs and gobs of power by increasing their thermal efficiency and providing more (literal) bang for your buck, but they do so at an unseen cost of maintenance and care, use a high quality synthetic and allow your turbos time to cool at the end of use and you have a motor that will last generations. If you treat it like crap it'll end up like crap. If you're not capable of maintaining a motor like this then yes the market of used hemis with eventual camshaft failures will be perfect for you!
@@corinhoskins2011 The hemis fail because of the spec for low viscosity oil, for emission reasons. If the new miracle engine uses powdered metal rods, hypereutetic pistons and maybe only four head bolts per cylinder, then I would keep my fingers crossed.
Yes, I understand how supercharged or turbocharged engines increase power output, especially for lower displacement engines. However, this comes at a price...just ask the owners of the 6.0 or 6.4 powerstroke diesel engine. Complicated variable vane turbo technology, dual ((sequential) turbos, heads with four valves per cylinder but only four head bolts to seal it, complicated engine controls and emission systems...so many weak points. I'm no engine newbie.
@@kidsteach938 well if you are no engine newbie you'd realize comparing early modern emission diesels with next gen gas jobbies is an apples to oranges comparison 😉
Remember the inline 6 ford 4.9 liter? That was an awesome truck engine.
Mite be the best motor Ford ever made.
9 mpg was a bitch though when mated to high rear end gears and a granny 1st tranny😂
It WAS the best motor they ever built.
It had piston skirt issues because of vibration just like the 292 I did build a 225 slant 6 to do 1156 to 1230 consistent
That “some reason” why straight sixes are so reliable is the natural balance in those motors creating fewer stresses on the components as well as a much simpler overall design
Won't be very reliable with turbos and Stellantis mucking around with it.
@@wildbill23cplenty of straight 6 with turbos are reliable but I will give to you about the stellantis thing
@@Bigalinbklyn83 LOL, there isn't anything reliable about any of them, especially with the way people like to skip regular maintenance.
@@wildbill23cToyota, BMWs and Nissan engines say otherwise
I'm A-OK with the idea of the Hurricane in a half ton. They should have also put it in the next-gen Challenger and Charger, instead of producing a go-kart with a muscle car body.
Nothing like the sound of a V8 rolling down the highway at 80 mph in top gear
4.3L 6 hemi straight 6 from Australia from the 80s legendary
Definitely sounds like a winner..
The reliability of a inline 6 mated to the ZF 8 speed...sounds amazing..
Just going have to wait and see but it's sounds really promising 🤗🤗
Bmw has proven that it is an awesome combo, hopefully the hurricane powertrain will be decent
I'm driving a Cummins powered Ram now, but I loved my Ram 1500 Hemi with the zf8.
@Andrey some BMW's are even equipped with a ZF8 trans behind their inline 6's!
@@theantiqueactionfigurethey all are
Just because it’s an inline 6 it doesn’t mean it’s reliable.
Shaping up to be a potentially legendary engine. If they keep modifying it for several years before the eventual killing of gas engines, it could end up even better. Definitely excited they went with an I6 instead of a V6.
Great review! I am excited about this engine and looking forward to seeing these in the wild where hype fades. I am a big fan of the inline 6 for reliability and low end torque. Hoping the Hurricane achieves everything they are designing for.
I'm trying to hd out for one.,In the ram 1500 just not sure if I can wait. Anyone know when they'll hit the car lots?
So they are only offering the standard output in the 1500? Or will we be able to get the high output in a 1500?
As you point out briefly at the end of the video, the issue is not simply the maximum torque figure, but at what rpm maximum torque will be made, and what the torque curve will look like.
He touched on it briefly in his opinion. Chrysler has a long history with the straight 6. They better take a page from that leaning tower of power. Reliability was it's bread and butter. They KEY is not to over power the engine.
Is it a slant six
The old Slante 6 had no power
This could be a game changer for Chrysler! Now they need to address their electrical issues!
Nothing compared to the Ford electrical issues. But let's not argue with facts
I agree. 2022 Ram 2500 crew 4wd diesel. Great truck with a shamefully terrible audio system that reboots almost every time I drive the truck.
Leave the V8 alone government......🙄
how do i buy a crate engine and will it be compatible with late model challengers
Do you know if the air intake needs will restrict you from using a snow plow?
It shouldn't, the engine is producing a vacuum so it will pull air in no matter what. There isn't really much of a ram air effect on forced induction engines, at least at the speed a snow plow truck will be moving.
I would like to see this hurricane running the Entry-level Charger SXT at 400 horses 🐎
Could be good but will have to see real world MPG tests. On paper the eco boost is more efficient than the V8s but in real world jt doesn’t seem like much. Maybe a couple MPGs at best. On top of that, for best performance premium fuel is needed. The 5.7 Ram notes mid grade for optimal performance.
Everyone I know that tows with their EB, says the mpg takes a dive when they hook up a trailer.. I will be curious about these new ones if it's the same story, given it's a turbo, I think yes.
My 2.7L 4wd 4 door Ecoboost averages 23mpg. I do drive conservatively (50/50 city/hwy).
No coyote 5.0 is going to match that.
@@cs1992 that's exactly why that 2.7 is such a popular option.. but what does your MPG go to when towing near your GCVWR?
If 90% of your driving is empty, that's great, but if 90% of your driving is near the max load of the truck, the engine will basically always be running in high boost and killing your MPG.
@@treyhart6861 100% empty...I, like most F150 ownership, don't tow.
But, it's an ECO boost. It's meant to be economical if you drive it economically.
V6s don't seem to have any sort of desirable sound, but the old Jeep 4.0 had a beautiful sound with the right exhaust. This engine won't have any good exhaust note due to the turbos anyway.
Will probably sound like it’s popping corn
Could there be a hurricane in my future? Well living in Florida the chances are about 100% yes.. and being a ram fanatic the odds are 98% yes to a hurricane engine..👍
Oh no my hurricane got flooded by a hurricane…Florida life
@@BenHardyCars right!🤣
There must be a Caravan/Pacifica with a high output version
Given my state is not banning the sale of new gas cars any time soon.. it's possible here too.
Lmao!!!
My major question is simple, how reliable will this engine be when being used in a hard load situation, I remember numerous Wonder Engines that on the test bench to be damn near indestructable. Then the engine hits the real world and they turn out to be JUNK.
@Ragingbull340 concur on that one. Can see a bunch of cracked heads and pistons in my crystal ball for this engine.
In line 6 is the standard for high mileage high load engines. I'd say the design is sound, whatever emissions they add will make it or break it
@Ragingbull340
Twin turbo cat engines run hard all day. Compound single and N/A as well
@@ryanpark2049 I am not sold until it comes out and then wait to see how it comes out. Sorry I have concern for a all aluminum engine with a high boost. My concern is aluminum's enemy HEAT, and the horses and torque that they claim are quite high so there is a bunch of energy being converted here. I remember Ford and their infamous 6.4 diesel, head gaskets blew out quite commonly when worked hard. I do like the inline 6 engine design, I just am not going to rush right out there and be the first one on the block to get one. Remember how the 3.0 turbo diesel V6 was so great and has been beat up by air polution add ons.
@@thomasheer825
Didn't know it was all aluminum, but depending on how it is handled I guess it can be dependable like the tundra, or trash. But the tundra has a forged crankshaft
Will the 1500 offer the high output Hurricane?
The only down fall I see for the hurricane is it is liquid cooled turbos which is going to be a nightmare if you have issues with them. And the direct injection. I will keep my hemi.
Fair
A lot of modern cars have liquid cooled turbos these days so its not something new.
Will they have issues
It's a Fiat engine made in Mexico. You won't have to worry longevity, Fiat makes some of the worst engines in the world and Mexico QC is awful.
I'm hoping they bring the Hurricane to the Wrangler and Gladiator. I'd replace my EcoDiesel Gladiator with this. The Hurricane fits within the 5.7L/6.4L footprint so it should fit within the engine bays of the Wrangler/Gladiator.
MEGA DITTOS!!!!!!
Nice video. Didn’t hear this in it so I will mention it. Straight six are great from past experiences. Longer stroke than bore size made them low rpm torque monsters. The unknown here is adding the turbos to this setup. Most of todays vehicles run at 2000 rpm at highway speeds and a little higher than that in direct drive and towing. So it’s going to be interesting to see where the power bands fall with this setup in the 1500 Rams. Throwing them into the 2500/3500 lineup is a big gamble for a first year production run. The 6.4 hemi is pretty stable here for the most part. Diesel owners are another subject that doesn’t fit.
I doubt that most of today's cars do run at 2000 rpm at highway speeds. But the variables are so many that it they not easy to define.
Selling point for me personally would be a 10 speed transmission along with the inline 6.
I want it mated to a 3 on the tree!
Why would you think that 2 extra gears would make much difference. There is a point of diminishing returns.
@@adamwebster9784
And a slanted six
What's the gas mileage you get with one of those engines because with my 2008 5.7 Hemi I've gotten 24 miles to the gallon before and no that wasn't going downhill I was driving at 65 mph on cruise control and when I popped it up to 70 I was still getting about 22
Ask a Ford 3.5 EcoBoost owner about fuel mileage..... If you drive it like a V8, you get worse mileage then a V8.... FACT. To add, my son is a heavy line Tech at a Ford dealership, they didn't nickname them "ECOBOOMS" for nothing.
@@fsilverez8408 I had a friend that has one it drank more fuel than my truck does
It will be about 10-15% better if you try to drive efficiently. Towing will get the economy based on the weight you pull. Still better than the less efficient old tech. My 2.7 f150 averages 20 mpg. A 5.0 will average 18.
Do you know if you can order a 2023 Ram 1500 with the Hurrican engine?
I am testing this motor right now on the Chelsea proving grounds near motown. It likes to eat turbos and camshafts. I think the turbos are really weak. Too much to go wrong. Bring back the slant 6
Lmao don't listen to this guy. He'd lose his "job" for leaking classified information.
😆 🤣
The turbos on all these go-kart engines are weak. All these tiny ass engines are junk to begin with...they pretend to get fuel economy but when you want them to actually perform work duties in the towing/hauling field, or even accelerate fast enough to get out of their own way, they get worse fuel economy than a V8 or even a V10.
I’m curious if this inline 6 with out the turbo will be the next base engine
Only tuned for high octane gas pos for me.
What are the E85 versions numbers(550)? Burns clean and races mean!
Being a straight 6, I bet the torque is gonna be more then 500 easily. I wonder how much more mpg you could get if you put a Venomaire intake and plasma plugs and an engine tune in this engine? 🤔
I agree. The GM 2.7 I-4 is at 410 torque in the high output version.
That's what I'm saying it should be at least 600
Why would the H/O Hurricane and a 6.7 (gas) Cummins be on the table for HD trucks?
I'm wondering if they are going to start putting the 2.0L Turbo into the Pacifica and phase out the 3.6L Pentastar?
Big fan of in-line 6’s, I would like to see them offer a cast iron version as a crate engine so we could potentially boost the hell out of it like a 2jz
They've offered hurricane crate engines since at least 2023
I love the idea. Inline 6 is legendary, and also gives room on the sides for turbos. Sure turbos add complexity and can break, but you'll have plenty of room on the sides to work on them if they do break.
turbos are actually extremely effective, fuel efficient, more responsive, and reliable. people need to neutralize the idea that “turbos” suck.
@@Ghassan69 And boost oxygen at higher altitudes. Power when you want it (floor it). Not so much if you drive soft. I like the idea a lot. I've had a lot of engines, even a V4. Never had an inline 6 and look forward to it.
@@ZenEndurance same! i’ve tried a V4, V4 single-turbo, and a HEMI 5.7. never tried a V6 or I6. i also believe that I6 is better than a V6 when it comes to power. moreover, having 2 turbos can expand the power band so you can have all the torque you need with every rpm.
@@Ghassan69 We have an Atlas with Volkswagen's narrow angle VR6 and it's pretty interesting. Definitely pulls more like an inline 6 than a V6 and has a fun feel to it.
It’s from Stellantis/Peugeot/FIAT, it’s going to break lol
I'll cry the day I can no longer find a hemi under 40k miles. I thought I could do without it, went 3 months and I was straight back at the dealer getting another one.
The ad campaign should be interesting. "Hey, does that Thang have a Hemi?" "Uh, sorry, it doesn't"
Hey Ben!
Once again,another informative detailed gem 💎 of a video!
Well done,my friend!!
After watching this video,am definitely onboard with this one ☝️ my friend!
As soon as they build a Wrangler with this engine I will be first in line for this in place of a Wrangler 392-although wouldn’t mind owning both!!
so are they going to put that rubber band in their 3/4 ton trucks or do away with gas engines in their hd?
What about the 6.4 heavy duty in the 2500 and 3500's?
How long is going to last
I have a 21 rebel with 5.7 etorque, I plan on towing a 36ft travel trailer every now and then, should I be considering this new engine or a diesel or just keep what I have, I figure this is a better place to ask in stead of listening to some saleman. I love my truck...
Does it have port injection like the Eccoboost or will it clog up with soot at 75k miles? That's the big question I have tbh. It will still be worse than the Ford when empty I would assume because Ford makes lighter trucks but hopefully it's better than the dreadful economy I got with a Ram Classic. I got rid of it.
I bet you were running regular gas also with ethanol, without a catch can and not changing spark plugs at 50k but wanna complain about soot build up..
@@ryanpark2049 Nope. I have an electric car, so I don't have to do any of that bullshit. Neither does a Ford owner because the manufacture spent less extra money than all the crap you just described, to prevent the problem to begin with. I had a Ram Classic, which wasn't even direct injected and would last for years with good maintenance, but it was so ridiculously expensive to run it that I sold it and got something that costs about $500 less a month. If I need something, I'll just have it delivered.
@@davids1816
Huh? A ram gets 19mpg combined, how is that expensive to run, but an electric car is "affordable"?
@@ryanpark2049 There is NO Ram Classic with a Hemi and a 3.92 rear end that gets 19 mpg combined. I'd get about 13.5-15 around town and if I took a trip of an hour or more on the highway and drove 70 mph it MIGHT creep up to 16 mpg overall. I'll be optimisic and say 15. Drive 1200 miles in a month and with $5 gas you're at $400. Chevy put a fast charger in my house so I can charge easily overnight. The Chevy gets about 4 miles per killowatt hour and that power costs 9 cents where I live. I'll assume 85% efficiency at charging and I'm at about $32. My car's range is about 250 miles on a full charge and that's far more than I ever drive in a day. So, I never charge at a public charger. They are more expensive but still about a quarter of the cost of gasoline. I also got a $750 rebate from the state for the car.
@@davids1816 believe what you want with clear gas driving from San Antonio to Austin and then back to corpus in my ram 5.7 with 3.31 and 8 speed I get 20.2 hand calc on ethanol free
So the biggest thing that is harming the sound department is that it is a split header twin turbo system.
The best sound is single turbo 6 into 1, i am particular to the candlestick setup like a 2nd gen cummins manifold
Here’s what I think (or at least hope) will happen with the new Hurricane (and some other engines):
-As Ben said, the standard output Hurricane will serve as the replacement for the 5.7 and the high output for the 6.4. This will be the case for most of the lineup; however, I think it is likely that both the standard and high output versions making their way into the Ram 1500 (non-performance versions. The TRX can keep its Hellcat or whatever replaces that). Since Cummins is making a gasoline version of their 6.7 I get the feeling we’re more likely to see that than the high output Hurricane in the Ram HD.
-Rather than going straight to electrification for the Hellcat, I would hope for a 4.0L Hurricane that puts out more horsepower and torque than the 6.2 but burns less fuel. It would also be nice for Mopar nostalgia.
-I’m personally hoping that when the 3.0L EcoDiesel gets redesigned, they change it to an I6 as opposed to a V6. If they do this and find ways to improve the tow ratings it could more effectively take on the 3.0L DuraMax in GM’s 1500s. I am hoping that with either this new I6 diesel or the Hurricanes, we could get a Ram 1500 that can tow at least 13,000 pounds to be more competitive with Ford and GM (and I mean a crew cab with 4X4 with that tow rating. A quad cab 4x2 should be even higher).
There is no replacement for a HEMI..... you are mistaken. Nothing, repeat nothing, has the effortless torque, smoothness, and economy under load like a V8. Anyone who actually uses a truck wants anything to do with a 6 cylinder, turbo or otherwise.
@@fsilverez8408 I agree 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯%
Great video! Thank you.
If it makes it past 100K miles, I’ll be surprised
I was thinking the same exact thing. You know turbos are going to go out!! 💸 Software updates and lots of trips to the dealership. I’ve got 200,000 miles on a 2018 Ram pulling a trailer since I’ve purchased it. No problems with motor or transmission. Let me put this piece of 💩 to the test.
@@GetSocialButterfly AMEN!!!
Exactly. The level of complexity is insane compared to a HEMI or LS V8. Ram will rue the day they dumped the V8 for this turd.... On the flipside, a V8 truck is going to double in value.
If they really wanted heritage, the should have developed a 4.0L inline 6 turbo instead of a 3.0L. It would have enabled them to likely make the same power they are getting from the 3L with less boost and also provide for more performance variations.
Maybe that could serve as a non-electrified replacement for the Hellcat? I’d sure love to see something like that in a TRX
The 3.0L exists to meet emissions and fuel economy targets... not power. There's a reason you see tons of 2.0L 4-cylinders, 3.0L 6-cylinders, and the Europeans with their 4.0L 8-cylinders.... its because 0.5L per cylinder is basically the ideal size for efficiency. The 3.0L will have no problem reaching the targets of 400 and 500 horsepower. And higher power variations will not be done via crazy boost but via hybridization. I'm just happy they went with an inline 6. That's a naturally balanced design. It should deliver power smoothly.
@@PeakDecline The smaller displacement is more for tax than emissions. There are places that actually levy more taxes based on engine displacements which is why you see so many 2 liter and smaller in many foreign countries. Any modern large engine can be designed to meet current emissions standards when done from the ground up.
@@niuhuskieguy Displacement based taxing is rapidly going away across the glove because it's a terrible way to handle the emissions issue. 0.5L per cylinder is the ideal size for thermal energy efficiency.
@@EliB207. The displacement will dictate your average torque curve, and fuel economy. The size of the turbo with respect to its CFM flow will dictate the ultimate amount of power you can make, not the engine size.
I'm wondering what the will put in the Power Wagon?
more curious on what the tuners are going to do with this thing. if it is meant for the challenger and stuff...i bet they are salivating at the idea of putting power to this thing
A high output hurricane in a 300 would be nice to see. I like the red interiors they’re doing on the S. i just think they would be muxh better with more than s 5.7
MPG?
I am keeping an eye on this as I plan to buy a Ram as my next truck, I would wait for the Hurricane engine. The one thing Ram needs to do is insure the exhaust sounds powerful and throaty.
There are a lot of people who would stick with the Hemi simply due to the way it sounds.
I would love a new Grand Cherokee with this engine in it! I6 is a very reliable platform for sure. This engine is very exciting.
A great combo would be a 5 speed manual transmission in a 1500 ram
It will never happen. Unfortunately the manual transmission is dead.
Won't sell because people in the US are too lazy to drive them.
This engine looks like an absolute nightmare to work on. A bmw look way less complicated and they’re known for overdoing stuff
Have you seen a new BMW twin turbo engine?
I'm looking at supercharging a chevy 292, it's already built, looking for a small displacement supercharger to put on an Offenhouser intake.
Will this engine be available in 2023?
So the EcoBoost jokes have backfired. Looks like Ram and Chevy are both about to offer their own version of an EcoBoost. I mean the Chevy trucks already have their own version of the 2.7 EcoBoost.
And has way more power the 3.5
Egoboost
I don't think it's anyone's choice but on paper to get more horsepower with less weight and better fuel economy is something we should all be interested in. But we're purest and we love the sound of a v8.
@@EliB207 I doubt it
It's a GDI-only engine. So I sure hope the intake manifold is easy to take off, cuz you're gong to need a walnut-shell blast de-carboning by 70k miles, especially if you have the version that takes regular gas.
I'm really surprised Stellantis didn't go to GDI+PDI, considering that Alfa Romeo had to do that from 2020 forwards to deal with the carbon issues on the Quadrifoglio models. Ask me how I know.
If I can't have a V8 this sounds like the next best thing. Way better then even a twin turbo V6 and diffinatly an electric appliance.
Install 2 straight 6 engines side by side LOL.
I know the mpg numbers aren't out yet but it doesn't appear to get a substantial improvement on mileage
It will be far worse than advertised.... ask a 3.5 EcoBoost owner. They curse the day they traded for that hand grenade 3.5 twin turbo pile
I wonder what engine is going to end up in the Power Wagon if they completely eliminate the 6.4…
5.7L is by far the best motor ever built IMO. Sounds amazing. 6.4L is great as well. I have an I6 6.7 diesel and it's AWESOME. Back in the day, I had the 4.0L Jeep, straight 6 as well. Loved all of these motors.
Lol so you never worked on one before or seen all the problems
@@siclt1 work on plenty, never had major issues. I guess I take better care of my rides?
@@mikekenner9218 I highly doubt you work on them, you can literally look at a 17 or 18 so 5 years old and the block is so rusted over it looks 20 to 30 years old. Try take bad mds solenoids out
Did you just say the 5.7 is the best motor ever built? 😂😂 brother, I can make a list of engines better in every possible way. The 5.7 is okay, but nowhere near the best in any regard.
@@PapiAndrey Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
A smaller redesigned Challenger with the HO motor would be a great combination.
I'll take the V8 even if it means less HP, if it goes the speed limit what more do you need?
When’s the 23 release date
I may consider trading my diesel gladiator when this is offered. Keep in mine an inline will have torque available at much lower rpm
im skeptical twin turbo v6s can run real hot especially for trucks with load i dont know about long term durability
? Ford has been doing it since 2012 lol. Nothing to be skeptical about. These engines are built for the power, and higher pressure. The blocks are similar to a diesel. Ford has a composite block.
It's kind of a wash. Whatever fuel economy savings were gained by switching to a smaller cylinder twin-turbo arrangement will be eaten up by the higher cost of premium fuel. Add in the extra cost of maintaining those twin turbos and there is little to offer the consumer over the less tech current offerings. Good value for dealership and repair shops, not so much value for the consumer.
I'm hoping they put that I6 in the Grand Cherokee L. Sign me up. 😀
Turbo's can be sweet if done right,example...1987 Buick Grand National !!!
Hey Ben. Any update on that new Toyota engine or it was just a scam?
Do you know A) when they will start putting this engine into their vehicles? and B) Which vehicles will have this engine? sooo exciting!!
@Ragingbull340 thanks
I hope they come with a decent hybrid with the inline 6 I'd like to see 1,000km or 600 miles on the small 90 litre gas tank
Will be interesting to see how they hold up but the big question for me is will the high output last In a 2500-3500 tow rig and will it just suck fuel even worse.
How can anyone hate an in-line they are amazing
But they need twin turbos to get that V8 power.
@The Ben Hardy Show this is also in the ram limited isn't it?
A 5.7 port fuel injection that cuts cylinders, compared to a turbo, intercooled, direct injection, higher grade of oil needed, additional architecture like waste gate, hoses, more drivability issues with direct injection, etc.
I understand that this is the direction because of emissions, etc.
I have a phrase, " no replacement for displacement"
My concern is the torque number on both std and HO engines being lower than desired. You can't come out and compete with the ecco boost engine and it has less torque. Torque is king with pick ups.
Do you believe that they will ever sell the engine stand-alone?
YES yes yes yes yes
I’m just curious how they are going to market it this? Everyone wants to hear that their truck is better. See how well it goes up against the Ecoboost. I’m impressed, but we need real world numbers.
This sounds like the ideal power plant for the Wrangler & Gladiator, too bad Jeep will likely e last to add them to their lineup-
Its in the Grand Wagoneer already as the only engine option....the Wagoneer is still optioned with the V8 though, seems ass backwards to me, the Grand Wagoneer is much larger and heavier, the V8 should be in the Grand Wagoneer and the I6 in the Wagoneer.
Being an inline 6, it may have less torque but a flatter curve with better torque down low.
The way they get more horsepower from an engine is to increase the compression ratio and perhaps the stroke of the pistons ergo here comes the need for higher octane fuel as a gas engine will act the same as a Diesel engine in this case causing pre combustion of the fuel in the cylinders. Octane ratings in the higher rated numbers to 93 etc. is to slow the combustion to wait for the spark plug to set of the fire at the proper time in the cylinder. Diesel engines use a cetane rating to do the exact opposite as octane as a Diesel engine will fire more readily to the proper timing as the fuel is enhanced to fire closer to the optimum moment of piston placement in the cylinder. Gas engines with high compression give out a pinging noise with low octane fuel and Diesel engines put out a rattling sound with low cetane rating. Fuel economy is rarely gained by when the engine fires but the difference in power is often noticeable. With the use of turbochargers and superchargers there is alway enough oxygen to ge the optimal burn for each engine to perform at its best. Just another thing to think about.
Aren't these coming back to dealer service with blown head gaskets?
So is the death of the Hemi Tick??
Would be nice if they could build those engines at U.S. factories as they are exclusively built in Mexico 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
No difference.
i imagine dodge will put the hurricane engine in the charger police package which means that chevy will likely have the last v8 powered police vehicles.
I'm all about saving my tax dollars. I've had the same argument with my ignorant neighbor that wants to tell me how wonderful the crown Victoria's work for police use. And that they need a v8. An older bombing majority of police engines sit at idle for hours. Which uses more fuel, and a 3.6 l pentastar charger accelerates two seconds faster 0 to 60 then a crown Victoria. But when presented with the fact she does what all Republicans do, tried to deny and deflect
@@ubeuonly Most of the police cruisers where I live are Ford Explorers or F150s with Ecoboost engines in them. I don't think they have anything other than the F250 Powerstroke that have V8 engines anymore. The F250 only gets used for towing the Sheriff's boat up to the lake during the boating season for patrolling the river....They still have a couple of Crown Vics but no longer used for patrol vehicles.
Think it’s a great idea. Still wonder about longevity. My 5.7 Hemi has 306,000 on it….
Truck?
@@revistadearmas 2017 1500
My bad 2007 not 2017
Yeah but how many transmissions have you been through...
@@AllThingsSuperMoto still on the original
Ya know, if Dodge drops this engine into a body similar to a Viper, they could have essentially a new version of the 90s Toyota Supra, instead of that BMW abomination currently wearing the Supra skinsuit.
I would wait and see if they have any problems with the engine
Shouldn't the standard output Hurricane be compared to Ford's 2.7L Ecoboost? That's how I'll shop them. Plus they both have a NA V6 as the base engine. Also, this engine should be in the RAM now! Stellantis is already 12+ months late in introducing this engine. The Jeep Cherokee needed the standard output version at its launch. Thanks for the video and keep them coming.