De la Hoya fought the best of his generation and beat the best and had losses to the best, the record speaks by itself, Boxing Hall of Fame World Champion, also fought his own demons, and keeps fighting, successful promoter and businessman, well liked by many fans and criticized by others, the boxing world and fans recognize his talent and accomplishments.
Keep these videos coming hatman. This is were you really shine mate, your knowledge is uncanny. I think your channel is my favourite boxing channel of all of them, and these long videos are extremely interesting and insightful. Thanks mate
I consider myself as an "old generation" of boxing fans in terms of the recent times. I watched him right since Barcelona Olympic Games 1992. He is a boxing legend.
You forgot to mention vargas and shane mosley tested positive for steroids against oscar and oscar whooped both of them in those fights. And trinidad was suspected as using illegal hand wraps
Another great video. I'm a big fan of De La Hoya as a fighter but him being a promoter makes it very hard to like him nowadays. Bernard Hopkins is another fighter who I really liked as a fighter but him being partners with De La Hoya in Golden Boys leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I would love for you to do Bernard Hopkins or Evander Holyfield Hatman. Thanks again for this one.
De La Hoya was one of the first of a new breed of fighters from the lower weights that made me really sit up and take notice. Dynamic in approach, speed and precision in spades and the right image to cross over, for the first 5 years of his career he truly was The Golden Boy. Yes, his shortcomings were found when he started drifting up in weight but he was pivotal in ushering in a new generation of young boxing fans. Shame his later exploits have tarnished him legacy.
The level of fanboyism people are taking their admiration for Lomachenko has gotten quite embarrassing, honestly. The way there are entire channels dedicated to making hype pieces about everything and anything he does... There's being entertained by how spectacular his performances are, but people are borderline in love with the dude.
Hatman, thanks for this...due to my age, I don't know THIS much about Golden Boy, only ever seen him as a promotor, but this was genuinely interesting. I feel like you probably do when you sit down with your dad lol, except....I don't know half the stuff you do lol!!!
*I think the accomplishment in the Paez fight was that, in a 60 plus fight career, he'd only had one Dr stoppage & Oscar got him outta there in 2 rds to give him his 1st KO loss. *OH man! Oscar vs Vargas is certainly one of my absolute favorite fights. But side note, funnily enough, I believe it was Jim Lampley on the HBO telecast, who mentions 2-3 times how much more muscular Fernando is for this fight, crediting the change to Vargas's use of, for the first time in his career, a nutritionist in training camp *The 2nd Mosley fight, which to me and the vast majority of my fellow humans lucky enough to be blessed with eyeballs and remembered to use them to watch the fight, was an Oscar screwjob, and Mosley was, unknown at the time, on "the clear and cream" of the infamous Victor Conte/BALCO steroids fiasco. There's a Mosley interview (I believe in Fed Court) claiming he was told it wasn't steroids he was taking, but the quote of note was something like "Yeah it didn't help though, most people still think I lost that fight" lol *Just my opinion, but I think one can make a much easier case for the Whittaker fight being a legit victory as compared to the Ike fight. Last, Oscar's record of questionable wins to questionable losses was close to even, if I'm remembering it right, of course that doesn't make it ok, lol.
love the video outlining the great oscar de latoya i watched most of his career as i am 36 years old and he was amazing legend who has really been over shadowed!! your spot on batman great job i found myself strangely captivated by your history lesson. well done
Awesome video my brother Hatman!..you know what I seen him the first time at Barcelona too..yea and I remember him destroying 135 division..member he ko'd Jeff mayweather..he made the great chacanito quit on stool..yea man he was beast!..and he had bad ass footwork too..def one of my all time favorites!..good looking out on this dude man..he don't get enough credit bro..u right!..and he faught everybody too.✌👊great vid
Hatman I bare like these videos especially the ones you do on the older fighters who arnt aswell known. If you have time could you do a career video on Manny Pacquiao?
Definitely huge credit for his legendary strength of schedule but he was a huge weight bully till he got to 147. Paid it back by moving up to middleweight and being on the other end of the stick I guess.
Oscar was one of the last old school fighters, before the cherry picking and catch weight really caught on with the likes of Floyd... Although he took some stick later on, in and out of the ring (wearing knickers) he was always game at taking a challenge. Good vid as usual Hatman. People old enough will remember there used to be far less belts and bs politics back in the day, and a lot of fighters generally did or wan't to be the best, these days a lot want to just sit on a belt and big up, I don't blame the fighters either, a lot of it is the management protecting their cash cow..
Oscar's bout with Ike Quartey, was fantastic and I thought he lost that fight. You should really revisit Floyd's career. He really fought an impressive list of fighters, including Corrales, Castillo, Oscar, Cotto, Gatti, Manfready, Mosley etc
Mike Faz NYC how old were mosley and oscar? They were out of thier prime fighting like once a year those guys were big names but they were done by that point
Hatman can you do one of these on Joe Calzaghe, only because i would like too see if you think his resume is legit or overrated as the years have gone by
Nice one Hatman. It;s very difficult to get on the same tier of opposition beaten as Oscar. Especially in today's climate. Floyd, Manny, Hopkins, Marquez, Ward, Wlad are the only ones from the social media era (05-onwards) that are above or similar to him. Triple and Canelo might get there. But his resume is better than Froch, Cotto, Bradley, Hatton, Calzaghe, Martinez, Donaire and any of the active guys Loma, Thurman, Usyk, Mikey, Adonis, Kovalev etc. A legit top 15 post Ali resume.
First I watched was against Bredahl, who was a very technical fighter, with a very good amateur career. Oscar de la Hoya was super fast. Bredahl smoked pot at least. Oscar fought to many elite fighters it is unreal.
Agree with another person maybe you can call it "A Career Revisited" he did lose to ike quartey but won some of the other fights but didnt get decision yes de la hoya could fight
I watched the Yuri Boy Campos fight, Campos had really good power, he dropped Trinidad with a sweet short left. Felix did get dropped several times but he always got up and destroyed his opponent.
I don't like Oscar as a man but he was very good fighter who beat very good fighters his style was enjoyable quick sharp combos with a lethal left hook and a good jab when he used it, it took me while come around on Oscar just because the whittaker, ike fights the scoring was to wide but they was close fights. I also thought he didint show chavez enough respect as guy paving the way for him but once you take the bias out oscar he is one greats of past 20 yrs and a joy to watch. You have rate Oscar
Ask Robert Garcia Mikey Garcia trainer and brother about delahoya he knew him very well he competed against him for years coming up he was a sparring partner for delahoya for years he'll tell you how great it was he's told many stories about delahoya you know who else knows I'm very well Abel Sanchez I don't know if it was Sanchez was a little older I don't think he was fighting like a Robert Garcia I don't know he might have been I don't think so but I know that Abel Sanchez I've heard him tell a few good stories with delahoya days but I've heard Robert Garcia tell many stories of Oscar Dela Hoya career
Ike Quartey was a sick Boxer and he outboxed De LA Hoya that fight. BEST JAB ever. please watch the fight people.Should have been a HOF, but career was not managed properly.
Only he knows why he stopped jabbin against floyd... when he jabbed he had floyd hiding behind his shoulder... Floyds activity went to zero...as soon as he stopped doing it Floyd could come out of that shell and out box him... horrendous mistake
Loma: 418 fights, 416 wins, 2 controversial losses, 1 avenged twice, the other ducked the rematch. 2 Olympic golds, 2 World golds, 1 World Series Boxing title, 3 pro division champion in 12 fights, 11 of which have been world title fights and just KO'd a near-elite fighter a stone heavier than himself. Stack that up and that's why people are borderline in love with him (as someone below puts it). He might not have done the same level of back to back in the pros as yet like De La Hoya did but then there are some things Oscar didn't do in his career that Lomachenko has. He's absolutely in the conversation already.
+Anthony Is that comment towards me? I know what Oscar's amateur career stats are. They are both great but also eclipsed by Lomachenko's in many respects. +Snapchat How are you able to speak for everyone in pro boxing? It's widely known that amateur boxing is respected by the pros. And not all of those accolades are amateur either.
That's not what you said originally buddy. And Harrison was not respected as a pro because he was rubbish as a pro. Not because of a lack of boxing talent but because he lacked the killer instinct, he was far too nice a man. 'but not that much' What does that even mean. Both DLH and Loma were both amateurs and pros. DLH didn't have as good an amateur career as Loma and Loma is yet to achieve everything DLH did in the pros. On that basis he's in the conversation, in my opinion, like I said.
None of what you said contradicts hatman. If we are talking P4P, i dont think people would count amateur career and on the basis of pro record neither lomo or crawford have anything close to oscar, including fighting B2Back top competitors. Also lomo is by NOT the best amateur ever, 418 amatear fights against who? what countries and what level of opposition? Perhaps we should consider how many of these fights were at world ranked amateur level. We cannot simply count wins against losses and say that equals the best. otherwise Jc Chavez is perhaps the best pro boxer of all time...
+Circle 'If we are talking P4P'. I don't know, are we? Is he? I thought the review was of Oscar's boxing career, that's the title of the video. How can anyone have hundreds of amateur fights and that not count in someone's boxing career. If the intention is to discuss pro career only then that's different and I already stated my position on that. However, now we're splitting hairs, Lomachenko started his pro career much later than DLH. He won't have the time to amass a record of the same numbers. Will that make it effectively impossible for him to ever match DLH by your unofficial measures? As for level of amateur opposition, you tell me but by any stretch 'World' and 'Olympics' covers the globe. JC Chavez is in the conversation too. No problem with that. He just went on too long.
Pernell's only loss was Ramirez and he avenged it Pernell was coming off 24 or 25 wins in a row going into the De La Hoya fight and a heap tone of title victories i know this cause i love SweetPea, he wasn't past his best at that time or nothing like it. Going into the Trinidad fight he was past it, he had lost the De La Hoya decision and he looked shaky in his next fight and after Trinidad he lost again, to argue the de la hoya decision is fine but going into the De La Hoya fight Whitaker was doing great in his career.
Dude that might be over there in the UK but over here in America and in Mexico everybody knows who Oscar Dela Hoya was and he was the fighter first a promoter second I mean my goodness he got the gold medal medal he's a golden boy I mean maybe in the UK is not known of the Enders but not with over here in America man got it out you say some dumb s***
That's your opinion wanted to say that this was doing you're not in it Linares as head of course everybody wants to make opinions say it right dude world champion
Not at all. Some records simply don't age well. For example, if Errol Spence sbeat Crawford, Thurman, Porter, García, Brook (again), Khan, moved up to 154 and beat Hurd and Jermell, but after losing to Spence all of them went on a losing streak and faded into obscurity, people wouldn't understand how big of a deal it was in the context of its time. In the same way a lot of casuals dismiss Sonny Liston simply because Ali wiped him out 2x. Not saying De LaHoya has a claim to be a GOAT, but he was extremely good.
That is a common saying but lets look at them: Hopkins - its hopkins, did pretty well until the mid rounds Floyd - great performance, close Mosley - awesome fight against a fellow great. close, mosley peds Trinidad - he won Chavez - old JCC, won easily Pea - close Vargas - easy win MAG - won comfortably Manny - got merked. 5 years after Mosley 2. weight drained 5/9. Underdog/past his best in 3/4 losses. sturm - terrible performance, close, sturm goes on to be one of the best middles in the coming years quartey - great fight, close
Hopkins would of beat Oscar ten times out of ten, De La Hoya didn`t land much before the liver shot got him ,De La Hoya couldn`t of beaten any great middles. Loma would have destroyed Oscar`s frail lightweight body and might of finished him with a liver shot also, he would of toyed with him at lightweight.
De La Hoya was crap at lighweight, his defense was wide open and he got decked, his body was too thin and frail to absorb punches at lightweight, it`s just that the smaller men couldn`t take his power and more of them would have had a shorter reach at that weight compared to some of the fighters that beat Oscar at the higher weights, Chavez was a far better lightweight than De La Hoya was, he was not in that league.
He got knocked down at lightweight and realised he was too open it was after that he became harder to hit, he probably beneftited a lot from his reach at lightweight, he started losing as he moved up in weight and his opponents got better.
Hatman I like the channel but what did Floyd do to u lol! Floyd faced Genaro for the WBC & Gatti for the WBC belt 4 yrs after Gatti fought Oscar. Theres 7 yrs between Mosley/Oscar 2 & Floyd/Mosley. That’s not fighting left overs when they’re belt holders.
Firstly he is awesome but nowhere the greatest. Also saying sugar ray Robinson is the greatest when you've never seen a whole fight and just say it because you think it makes you sound hardcore is very homosexual of you.
I don't think he's underrated as a boxer all the young prospects that he has all signed to him because of who he was coming up being a gold medalist and all that I don't get what you're saying I live in the States on Mexican American I watched his career also
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Love these longer videos man.
De la Hoya fought the best of his generation and beat the best and had losses to the best, the record speaks by itself, Boxing Hall of Fame World Champion, also fought his own demons, and keeps fighting, successful promoter and businessman, well liked by many fans and criticized by others, the boxing world and fans recognize his talent and accomplishments.
CallMeSnowwy was mosley 100% on the peds? I loves his career so say it aint so💔
CallMeSnowwy source? not saying your lying
CallMeSnowwy just watched his interview and thats a damn shame
More solid work Hatman thanks for taking the time to do these, us scholars appreciate it! Would be great if you could do a Holyfield one!
Keep these videos coming hatman. This is were you really shine mate, your knowledge is uncanny. I think your channel is my favourite boxing channel of all of them, and these long videos are extremely interesting and insightful. Thanks mate
How about a video on Gerald McLennan?
Good video hatman you should do these for more fighters
I consider myself as an "old generation" of boxing fans in terms of the recent times. I watched him right since Barcelona Olympic Games 1992. He is a boxing legend.
You forgot to mention vargas and shane mosley tested positive for steroids against oscar and oscar whooped both of them in those fights. And trinidad was suspected as using illegal hand wraps
Loving these re visited watching all back to back last few days
Another great video. I'm a big fan of De La Hoya as a fighter but him being a promoter makes it very hard to like him nowadays. Bernard Hopkins is another fighter who I really liked as a fighter but him being partners with De La Hoya in Golden Boys leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I would love for you to do Bernard Hopkins or Evander Holyfield Hatman. Thanks again for this one.
loving these
More videos like this please.
Yeah good video. I looked at ODLH record and thought he lost against all the big name. You put me right.
You would be right tho, he did lose to all the Big Names Bar Vargas and a couple of others in the 2000ns but he beat all the Big names in the 90s.
Oscar is legendary ! I watched him first time in 1999 fighting vs ike
De La Hoya was one of the first of a new breed of fighters from the lower weights that made me really sit up and take notice. Dynamic in approach, speed and precision in spades and the right image to cross over, for the first 5 years of his career he truly was The Golden Boy. Yes, his shortcomings were found when he started drifting up in weight but he was pivotal in ushering in a new generation of young boxing fans.
Shame his later exploits have tarnished him legacy.
The level of fanboyism people are taking their admiration for Lomachenko has gotten quite embarrassing, honestly. The way there are entire channels dedicated to making hype pieces about everything and anything he does... There's being entertained by how spectacular his performances are, but people are borderline in love with the dude.
Linares got a 15 second count lol
Hatman.. Do one on Riddick Bowe.. I would be interested to know how you would rate him
Hatman, thanks for this...due to my age, I don't know THIS much about Golden Boy, only ever seen him as a promotor, but this was genuinely interesting. I feel like you probably do when you sit down with your dad lol, except....I don't know half the stuff you do lol!!!
Hopkins DLH was at 158 but Bhop came in way lighter to make a point, that it wouldn't be decided on size or something.
*I think the accomplishment in the Paez fight was that, in a 60 plus fight career, he'd only had one Dr stoppage & Oscar got him outta there in 2 rds to give him his 1st KO loss.
*OH man! Oscar vs Vargas is certainly one of my absolute favorite fights. But side note, funnily enough, I believe it was Jim Lampley on the HBO telecast, who mentions 2-3 times how much more muscular Fernando is for this fight, crediting the change to Vargas's use of, for the first time in his career, a nutritionist in training camp
*The 2nd Mosley fight, which to me and the vast majority of my fellow humans lucky enough to be blessed with eyeballs and remembered to use them to watch the fight, was an Oscar screwjob, and Mosley was, unknown at the time, on "the clear and cream" of the infamous Victor Conte/BALCO steroids fiasco. There's a Mosley interview (I believe in Fed Court) claiming he was told it wasn't steroids he was taking, but the quote of note was something like "Yeah it didn't help though, most people still think I lost that fight" lol
*Just my opinion, but I think one can make a much easier case for the Whittaker fight being a legit victory as compared to the Ike fight. Last, Oscar's record of questionable wins to questionable losses was close to even, if I'm remembering it right, of course that doesn't make it ok, lol.
I love story time with you Hatman please do more videos like this!!!! Thanks 👍
love the video outlining the great oscar de latoya i watched most of his career as i am 36 years old and he was amazing legend who has really been over shadowed!! your spot on batman great job i found myself strangely captivated by your history lesson. well done
Awesome video my brother Hatman!..you know what I seen him the first time at Barcelona too..yea and I remember him destroying 135 division..member he ko'd Jeff mayweather..he made the great chacanito quit on stool..yea man he was beast!..and he had bad ass footwork too..def one of my all time favorites!..good looking out on this dude man..he don't get enough credit bro..u right!..and he faught everybody too.✌👊great vid
Hatman I bare like these videos especially the ones you do on the older fighters who arnt aswell known. If you have time could you do a career video on Manny Pacquiao?
Definitely huge credit for his legendary strength of schedule but he was a huge weight bully till he got to 147. Paid it back by moving up to middleweight and being on the other end of the stick I guess.
Wicked video we need more of these 👌
Oscar was one of the last old school fighters, before the cherry picking and catch weight really caught on with the likes of Floyd...
Although he took some stick later on, in and out of the ring (wearing knickers) he was always game at taking a challenge.
Good vid as usual Hatman.
People old enough will remember there used to be far less belts and bs politics back in the day, and a lot of fighters generally did or wan't to be the best, these days a lot want to just sit on a belt and big up, I don't blame the fighters either, a lot of it is the management protecting their cash cow..
De la hoya was my favorite fighter growing up. Fought everybody from 135-160 and always was in a good fight.
Hatman you have to do Shane Mosley career revisited.
Oscar's bout with Ike Quartey, was fantastic and I thought he lost that fight. You should really revisit Floyd's career. He really fought an impressive list of fighters, including Corrales, Castillo, Oscar, Cotto, Gatti, Manfready, Mosley etc
Mike Faz NYC how old were mosley and oscar? They were out of thier prime fighting like once a year those guys were big names but they were done by that point
Old fighters lol
Hatman can you do one of these on Joe Calzaghe, only because i would like too see if you think his resume is legit or overrated as the years have gone by
Gavin James Mikkel Kessler?
+Connor Boyd well Said. That is one of tge greatest performances. Kessler was a beast .
Great vid Hatman !
great fighter, but now as crooked as hell, and look at the latest few fights with peculiar things happening
Nice analysis, with a few disagreements on his opinions regarding "other fighters fighting De La Hoya leftovers, but still nicely done.
Awesome video 🔥
Nice one Hatman.
It;s very difficult to get on the same tier of opposition beaten as Oscar. Especially in today's climate. Floyd, Manny, Hopkins, Marquez, Ward, Wlad are the only ones from the social media era (05-onwards) that are above or similar to him. Triple and Canelo might get there.
But his resume is better than Froch, Cotto, Bradley, Hatton, Calzaghe, Martinez, Donaire and any of the active guys Loma, Thurman, Usyk, Mikey, Adonis, Kovalev etc.
A legit top 15 post Ali resume.
Excelente breakdown Oscar was a fucking beast
Mosley imo was the 2nd best lighwiegh all time
Excellent video my friend ;)
World of sports with Dickie Davies. Itv.
First I watched was against Bredahl, who was a very technical fighter, with a very good amateur career. Oscar de la Hoya was super fast.
Bredahl smoked pot at least.
Oscar fought to many elite fighters it is unreal.
Gatti ward comes to mind thinking of being in serious pain and carrying on from a shot to the basket
Agree with another person maybe you can call it "A Career Revisited" he did lose to ike quartey but won some of the other fights but didnt get decision yes de la hoya could fight
Legend ov boxing,only man 2 beat mayweather! Iron man!!
LOL
Castillo??
World of Sport!! with Dickie Davis
old skool . lol.
I watched the Yuri Boy Campos fight, Campos had really good power, he dropped Trinidad with a sweet short left. Felix did get dropped several times but he always got up and destroyed his opponent.
Trinidad wanted no part of Quartey.
Hatman did u see Campas', the Mexican's KO ratio!
I don't like Oscar as a man but he was very good fighter who beat very good fighters his style was enjoyable quick sharp combos with a lethal left hook and a good jab when he used it, it took me while come around on Oscar just because the whittaker, ike fights the scoring was to wide but they was close fights. I also thought he didint show chavez enough respect as guy paving the way for him but once you take the bias out oscar he is one greats of past 20 yrs and a joy to watch. You have rate Oscar
hatman you should do a similar line of vids on patreon i.e ricky hattons etc
Ask Robert Garcia Mikey Garcia trainer and brother about delahoya he knew him very well he competed against him for years coming up he was a sparring partner for delahoya for years he'll tell you how great it was he's told many stories about delahoya you know who else knows I'm very well Abel Sanchez I don't know if it was Sanchez was a little older I don't think he was fighting like a Robert Garcia I don't know he might have been I don't think so but I know that Abel Sanchez I've heard him tell a few good stories with delahoya days but I've heard Robert Garcia tell many stories of Oscar Dela Hoya career
Jimmy Briedel my man.
De La Hoya beat Whitaker and juiced Mosley in rematch. ATG. Gayweather would have no shot with prime Golden Boy.
Floyd beats any version of oscar but oscar was still an iconic mexican fighter. Would love to of seen him vs marquez
delahoya was too big for marquez
calum gallagher Floyd would not have beaten De la hoya you fool.
Ike Quartey was a sick Boxer and he outboxed De LA Hoya that fight. BEST JAB ever. please watch the fight people.Should have been a HOF, but career was not managed properly.
seray 007 naw that fight was even! Dead even
Some say hoya’s reaction after the body shot was little weird some say it’s fixed some say hoya quit.
OSD and Quartey both drop eachother
Only he knows why he stopped jabbin against floyd... when he jabbed he had floyd hiding behind his shoulder... Floyds activity went to zero...as soon as he stopped doing it Floyd could come out of that shell and out box him... horrendous mistake
Phenomenal fighter but a lacklustre promoter.
HatmanSB-People should just learn to watch these guys and enjoy the spectacle for what it is and stop the Tribalism trolling.
Loma: 418 fights, 416 wins, 2 controversial losses, 1 avenged twice, the other ducked the rematch. 2 Olympic golds, 2 World golds, 1 World Series Boxing title, 3 pro division champion in 12 fights, 11 of which have been world title fights and just KO'd a near-elite fighter a stone heavier than himself. Stack that up and that's why people are borderline in love with him (as someone below puts it). He might not have done the same level of back to back in the pros as yet like De La Hoya did but then there are some things Oscar didn't do in his career that Lomachenko has. He's absolutely in the conversation already.
+Anthony Is that comment towards me? I know what Oscar's amateur career stats are. They are both great but also eclipsed by Lomachenko's in many respects.
+Snapchat How are you able to speak for everyone in pro boxing? It's widely known that amateur boxing is respected by the pros. And not all of those accolades are amateur either.
That's not what you said originally buddy. And Harrison was not respected as a pro because he was rubbish as a pro. Not because of a lack of boxing talent but because he lacked the killer instinct, he was far too nice a man.
'but not that much' What does that even mean. Both DLH and Loma were both amateurs and pros. DLH didn't have as good an amateur career as Loma and Loma is yet to achieve everything DLH did in the pros. On that basis he's in the conversation, in my opinion, like I said.
None of what you said contradicts hatman. If we are talking P4P, i dont think people would count amateur career and on the basis of pro record neither lomo or crawford have anything close to oscar, including fighting B2Back top competitors. Also lomo is by NOT the best amateur ever, 418 amatear fights against who? what countries and what level of opposition? Perhaps we should consider how many of these fights were at world ranked amateur level. We cannot simply count wins against losses and say that equals the best. otherwise Jc Chavez is perhaps the best pro boxer of all time...
Snapchat Entertainment are you seriously comparing audley fucking harrison to lomachenko? Go home, you're drunk.
+Circle 'If we are talking P4P'. I don't know, are we? Is he? I thought the review was of Oscar's boxing career, that's the title of the video. How can anyone have hundreds of amateur fights and that not count in someone's boxing career. If the intention is to discuss pro career only then that's different and I already stated my position on that. However, now we're splitting hairs, Lomachenko started his pro career much later than DLH. He won't have the time to amass a record of the same numbers. Will that make it effectively impossible for him to ever match DLH by your unofficial measures? As for level of amateur opposition, you tell me but by any stretch 'World' and 'Olympics' covers the globe.
JC Chavez is in the conversation too. No problem with that. He just went on too long.
Well.
Grandstand lol taking us back hatman
Mickey Mouse didn't it have a belting theme tune
Yes it did...So did Sportsnight and World of Sport.
Lomochenko is following the same path Oscar is following
Daniel Moore Canelo is talented but untrustworthy due to the steroid scandal
pernell was out of his prime when he fought oscar tho tbh
Pernell's only loss was Ramirez and he avenged it Pernell was coming off 24 or 25 wins in a row going into the De La Hoya fight and a heap tone of title victories i know this cause i love SweetPea, he wasn't past his best at that time or nothing like it. Going into the Trinidad fight he was past it, he had lost the De La Hoya decision and he looked shaky in his next fight and after Trinidad he lost again, to argue the de la hoya decision is fine but going into the De La Hoya fight Whitaker was doing great in his career.
No he was not, he was regarded the best p4p or top 2 at least
better than Floyd,imo even a old Oscar just lost to prime Floyd,even sr thought Oscar beat Floyd in that fight
World of Sports?
Dude that might be over there in the UK but over here in America and in Mexico everybody knows who Oscar Dela Hoya was and he was the fighter first a promoter second I mean my goodness he got the gold medal medal he's a golden boy I mean maybe in the UK is not known of the Enders but not with over here in America man got it out you say some dumb s***
Most of his listeners are from Britain you dummy
Oscar lost to Sweetpea
That's your opinion wanted to say that this was doing you're not in it Linares as head of course everybody wants to make opinions say it right dude world champion
he was overrated. he lost all his big fights.
Not at all. Some records simply don't age well. For example, if Errol Spence sbeat Crawford, Thurman, Porter, García, Brook (again), Khan, moved up to 154 and beat Hurd and Jermell, but after losing to Spence all of them went on a losing streak and faded into obscurity, people wouldn't understand how big of a deal it was in the context of its time.
In the same way a lot of casuals dismiss Sonny Liston simply because Ali wiped him out 2x.
Not saying De LaHoya has a claim to be a GOAT, but he was extremely good.
That is a common saying but lets look at them:
Hopkins - its hopkins, did pretty well until the mid rounds
Floyd - great performance, close
Mosley - awesome fight against a fellow great. close, mosley peds
Trinidad - he won
Chavez - old JCC, won easily
Pea - close
Vargas - easy win
MAG - won comfortably
Manny - got merked. 5 years after Mosley 2. weight drained
5/9. Underdog/past his best in 3/4 losses.
sturm - terrible performance, close, sturm goes on to be one of the best middles in the coming years
quartey - great fight, close
Andrés Gómez whats your point bro
he still lost all his big fights
Hopkins would of beat Oscar ten times out of ten, De La Hoya didn`t land much before the liver shot got him ,De La Hoya couldn`t of beaten any great middles. Loma would have destroyed Oscar`s frail lightweight body and might of finished him with a liver shot also, he would of toyed with him at lightweight.
I don`t know what you`d call my sexuality but I`m nowhere near gay enough to dress up in drag and take pics of it like Oscar did!
The Golden Boy is a Freak!
De La Hoya was crap at lighweight, his defense was wide open and he got decked, his body was too thin and frail to absorb punches at lightweight, it`s just that the smaller men couldn`t take his power and more of them would have had a shorter reach at that weight compared to some of the fighters that beat Oscar at the higher weights, Chavez was a far better lightweight than De La Hoya was, he was not in that league.
Mark Ant Oscar whooped all the lightweights ass! At that time! Lol..haters gonna hate lol
He got knocked down at lightweight and realised he was too open it was after that he became harder to hit, he probably beneftited a lot from his reach at lightweight, he started losing as he moved up in weight and his opponents got better.
Hatman I like the channel but what did Floyd do to u lol! Floyd faced Genaro for the WBC & Gatti for the WBC belt 4 yrs after Gatti fought Oscar. Theres 7 yrs between Mosley/Oscar 2 & Floyd/Mosley. That’s not fighting left overs when they’re belt holders.
I thought Oscar was Puerto Rican American??
A good boxer in his time but likes wearing womens underwear for some reason,that was strange
looooooooool questionable antiques outside the ring looool hatmanc you're a bad guy
Lomachenko *is* the greatest fighter of all time.
Sugar ray Robinson
Sure
Firstly he is awesome but nowhere the greatest. Also saying sugar ray Robinson is the greatest when you've never seen a whole fight and just say it because you think it makes you sound hardcore is very homosexual of you.
Yes, he is.
Nah, I'd win
I don't think he's underrated as a boxer all the young prospects that he has all signed to him because of who he was coming up being a gold medalist and all that I don't get what you're saying I live in the States on Mexican American I watched his career also
That's one long sentence, pal.