Moving to New Zealand from USA. Americans living in New Zealand

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  • @traceymars
    @traceymars ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I might have had a similar experience to your kids. Went to school in both US and NZ. Definitely loved the practical classes like home economics, wood work, metal work, sewing, chocolate making, etc. It was fun. My experience with school in the US was that it was more competitive and stressful.

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree! The kids here think it is so stressful but I kinda laugh inside as they have no idea..

  • @colinbentleywilliams
    @colinbentleywilliams ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Part 2? Yes please! It’s very helpful to hear how your perspective has shifted and/or solidified over the years, and to get more detail as to why. Thank you for being honest about your own experience.

  • @nathanprovines4894
    @nathanprovines4894 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tara thank you so much for sharing all of your stories and perspectives!! My husband and I are seriously considering relocating from the states to NZ and your videos have helped shed so much light as to what it could be like and cultural differences that we wouldn't have even thought of.

  • @michaelheliotis5279
    @michaelheliotis5279 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Homework did used to be a staple in New Zealand schools, but over the last couple of decades, it's fallen out of favour a bit largely because of shifting attitudes from parents. As more parents have become less invested in pressuring their kids to do homework (particularly with teenagers at secondary school) and extra-curricular activities have become more popular, more schools have shifted to different systems that focus on prioritising learning in the classroom. This does have downsides, of course, but overall the impetus is coming from Kiwi parents who are inclined to believe that school is for learning and after-school is for activities and family.

    • @TazDev29
      @TazDev29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My children have just turned 20 and 19 and they had homework through primary and high school. They mostly tried to do it during extra time at school rather than at home though. Primary school was more sit and read a section and do these lists. But high school was more work on a assignment as home work and hand in by .. but every class has home work and they lost credits if they didn't hand it in on time.
      It might be your school or region is different

    • @dwilliams7377
      @dwilliams7377 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love this!

    • @shevster13
      @shevster13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not just about parents. Recent studies have show no significant link between doing homework and getting better results. Its not fully understood but the hypothesis on why range from mental exhaustion requiring a lot of non-sleep downtime for kids to fully recover, or possibly a similar thing with stress. The final one I have heard suggested is that our brains have a limit of how much new knowledge can be retained long term.This would mean that it doesn't matter if the homework helps you understand something better that day, in a weeks time you will remember just as much as you would have without homework.

    • @michaelheliotis5279
      @michaelheliotis5279 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TazDev29 It's fallen out of favour and there are an increasing number of schools eschewing it, but that doesn't mean there aren't still schools around that do have homework. Which is to say, it's _your_ kids' school that is different from the rest of the country.

    • @markvegar1442
      @markvegar1442 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alot high school students do their homework on chrome books at lunch during or study breaks and then email to teacher if you can type fast enough my son never had home work and he up as head boy

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes6741 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The comparisons are so interesting. Thank you for the video! Have an amazing week!

  • @tomok7775
    @tomok7775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kia ora Tara from Moera. Appreciate the 3rd part of your korero on working in Aotearoa/New! Zealand. Hesitation on letting staff go is certainly entrenched in the workplace everywhere & hope it changes in the future. It's great to have a Kiwi Wisconsinian drop these gems. Advice from expats making NZ home is necessary to secure our economic and ultimately communities future. Cheers.

    • @Andy_M986
      @Andy_M986 ปีที่แล้ว

      I won't be taking my business back home any time soon,not with that ridiculous tax rate.

  • @moirapennell1945
    @moirapennell1945 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You talk about your opinion a lot. I have never come across a NZ academic who at the very least does not fact check. So here are some facts about NZ compared to the US in the PISA (Programme for International Student Assessment) scores 2018. These are the scores for 15 year olds in over eighty countries. PISA tests reading, maths and science. Reading: NZ 506, US 505, PISA avg 487. Maths: NZ 494, US 478, PISA avg 489. Science: NZ 508, US 502, PISA avg 489. Overall: NZ 502.7, US 495.0. As must be clear from the facts, there is little difference between NZ and the US in reading and science, however NZ scores considerably better in maths and marginally better in reading and science.

    • @dwilliams7377
      @dwilliams7377 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Accomplishing those scores without hours and hours of homework in the evening does sound appealing!

    • @edias78
      @edias78 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can tell you by experience the UnI here in NZ and AUS is way inferior than private ones even in developing countries like South America. In my estimation the gap is more than a decade.

    • @libbysevicke-jones3160
      @libbysevicke-jones3160 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edias78 you nailed it ‘Private Universities’. I have no faith in regular American universities.
      As l have commented before- during my time at uni, American students were coming over to attend NZ Universities so they could fast track their studies.
      For every one paper they passed here, their were credited with 2 papers in the USA. That to me is cheating.
      Besides our University system follows the British education system while the American universities are God knows what 🤷‍♀️

  • @Dawn_Aramoana63
    @Dawn_Aramoana63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, I recommend this also. Always get a second opinion when it comes to your health.

  • @bronwynnorris6278
    @bronwynnorris6278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had amazing health treatment over my 65 yrs l have a lot of problems and have had 28 surgeries and all my mobility equipment is free.

  • @martinemartin4779
    @martinemartin4779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's okay for your kids to have heaps of pressure and homework, if you're bringing them up to be in a high pressure society. What more important in New Zealand, is being a well-rounded person - someone who is able to work well with others and someone who genuinely cares. That's what those non-homework hours are for - to develop relationship skills and personal resilience. In education systems, such as Finland's (which is amazing!) these things have been recognised as essential. Our curriculum is about sustainability, people and the environment. As for literacy, New Zealand is ranked globally at number 15, ahead of Australia at number 16. The US is number 36. As someone who is learning a language through a US based system, I have to say that I think US English is often grammatically unusual - I certainly struggle with the way English sentences are constructed and the phrasing e.g. "I'm on break from work" is part of a recent piece I had to translate into English. I wrote, "I'm on a break from work", which the US system marked incorrect. I feel like the biggest part of our time and energy in our school system, in learning languages, goes towards learning te reo Maori - as it should. Does the US have a push towards learning the indigenous languages of the country or local areas? I'd love to know more about that.

  • @HyperWolf-RBLX
    @HyperWolf-RBLX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even though I'm a Native NZer I'm Still watching this.

  • @chrispayne2608
    @chrispayne2608 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tara your comparison of school years primary 5-11, intermediate 11-13, high school/college 13-18, University18-

  • @hayderal-sarraf667
    @hayderal-sarraf667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful talk! Hopefully, I can meet you one day. I am in the Mt. wellington area.

  • @aminnazarahari2745
    @aminnazarahari2745 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vids are awesome 🤩 keep em coming!!🎉

  • @carolinemcnicol498
    @carolinemcnicol498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting perspectives from your Korero. Just want to mention Māori culture is embraced in NZ and filters through on everybody in everyday life especially in education so it does not matter where you come from ,or even whether you are aware or not. Some culturally important things respected here are he tangata is the people, whanau the family, the whenua the land ,your wairua or spirit and manakitanga kindness. Winning and loosing only counts when our National sports teams are playing the Aussies in particular not in everyday life and we always start with a haka.

  • @ExcretumTaurum
    @ExcretumTaurum ปีที่แล้ว

    I too like to stay on top of emails when on holiday. The thought of coming back to a pile of fresh work really sinks a holiday.

  • @ExcretumTaurum
    @ExcretumTaurum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Re: spelling and grammar - I was recently horrified to discover that one of my workmates never had the correct use of apostrophes explained to them.

  • @myronschabe
    @myronschabe ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI, it has recently gotten harder to get residency here...they now have such a thing as a 'job check' and employers are required to be accredited as well they have to offer to kiwis first so a foreigner will not qualify for a lot of jobs...also the points went up by 15 points which is not insignificant.

  • @christopherknight921
    @christopherknight921 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. Love your eye color/colour.

  • @edias78
    @edias78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the education, even if you compare with private schools of "developing" countries for example, NZ and AUS together are way far inferior IMO.
    My take on is based on 28 years of experience living in South America, 2 years in USA, 3 years in AUS and 12 years in NZ.

  • @billwilson1320
    @billwilson1320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Swings & roundabouts then.
    What do other family members say?

  • @michelletewhata7768
    @michelletewhata7768 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You look really good😊

  • @EdwardAdamscallerbroz
    @EdwardAdamscallerbroz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What moving mam

  • @akmasad6406
    @akmasad6406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mem,am Asad from Bangladesh,how i come to NZ.please be share.

  • @beckyv1596
    @beckyv1596 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get a permit to work in Education? My daughter is an English prof in USA and I am retired so she would need to work. Thank you

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I came on a skilled migrant visa and just applied to jobs. Took a long time because they think it is a disadvantage not having taught in Nz

  • @carlh42677
    @carlh42677 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree about the not firing people. The laws favour the employee and it makes it really tricky to get rid of bad employees. It's unfortunate. Recently my husband and I found that we had to pay our employees sick leave for being hung over. When that is happening you know the law is broken.

  • @janelleekenasio7410
    @janelleekenasio7410 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We have a car festival every year in Feb called Americana we would love for you to come check it out an see our rake on America an celebrate American cars with us . Americana 2023 has just finished but we hope to see you next year 🥰🥰🥰🥰

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would love too!!!

    • @WARR10RZ_4L1F3
      @WARR10RZ_4L1F3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just one question how did you post this comment three days ago when its only been out an hour?

    • @Tsass0
      @Tsass0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WARR10RZ_4L1F3 She is a busy lady and has a time shear out on one of the Tardis's

    • @KiwiGurl4Life
      @KiwiGurl4Life ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WARR10RZ_4L1F3 she had this video as an upcoming premiere. You are able to comment on the video if it’s a premiere before it releases.

  • @spidermek5416
    @spidermek5416 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a question for u tara. When your husband gotta job here, does he apply for it, or the job already there for him on arrival? Does he get interview? I have a american friend told me that american all that. You know, loud and over present themselves like ive done that and that and so on.

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว

      He got the job in the states before we left.... he interviewed online before we came.

  • @AuburnCARealEstate
    @AuburnCARealEstate ปีที่แล้ว

    I looked into moving to NZ. As a retiree with a good income, there is no provision for an American to move there.

  • @MaxSweet1
    @MaxSweet1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She didn't say naked 😂 Nākit she's now a kiwi 🥝 😂 Nangkid or Nākit. Its criss cross korēro/English for tied

  • @meganf1658
    @meganf1658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for telling us about your experiences moving here to NZ and comparing the healthcare and schools etc of both places. I found it interesting hearing about how it's harder to fire people here than in the US. I always thought it was a bit strange seeing American TV and movies where the boss would call one of the employees into their office and the first thought they had of the reason was that they were going to be fired and then the boss does fire them and seemingly so quickly and easily! lol. And since I think TV is real life.. 😜I thought it might happen here in NZ too lol

  • @normaw151
    @normaw151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get the feeling you are missing home now and maybe you need to get back to the States.

    • @trudimclaren2609
      @trudimclaren2609 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get that feeling too, Norma. Even our free health care doesn't seem to 'meet requirements'... it's probably okay for health care in the States if you worked as a Professor. Oh, and I'll take less 'efficient' and work/life balance over massive stress. Americans who come here are often nothing less than rude to front-line employees.

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am missing home Norma -

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a professor I made less than 30k a year and have paid out over 100K just to have my babies so not special healthcare for me. I would definately take the less efficient workplace over the American stress.

  • @wppw123
    @wppw123 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is New Zealand for people without kids?

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I cannot speak from experience but should be awesome!

  • @rogerb4436
    @rogerb4436 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's sounding like you may be a bit over living here now, what with your children older and you running your own business. No offense as it's just an observation on how you came across on video. New Zealand is a far more laid back country than the United States and maybe its to hard for expats to adjust.

    • @trudimclaren2609
      @trudimclaren2609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I totally agree! I recently had an American guest at a function I ran, and she was a total nightmare to my staff - everyone else was wonderful, but she was full of complaints disguised as 'being helpful'. We are more laid back, snd I treasure that - nothing said makes me think I wish I lived in the US, but I think you do, maybe, Tara?

    • @corabaker2479
      @corabaker2479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trudimclaren2609

  • @Andy_M986
    @Andy_M986 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would rather have one of our specialists ,who are very capable, then pay $53K in a US hospital for a week's convalescence.

  • @boomertuxx
    @boomertuxx ปีที่แล้ว

    haha on my trips to Wellington I take a 2 hour detour just to avoid Hamilton

  • @Sam465
    @Sam465 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you & your Husband plan to stay here long term, as in another 7 years plus?, or are you thinking of looking for "Greener Pastures" ?, it would be a shame to know that you have setttled here for all this time, & then suddenly decide to move yet again, in my case I moved 9 times in 8 years, that is why I was curious to know.🙂🤔

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that I work remotely - I would like to travel a bit more. We take each dat at a time and we don't decide the future before it is here.

  • @edias78
    @edias78 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The health system in NZ is good for non serious issues. If you need specialist for serious and specific issues, trust me you don't want to be in NZ or even AUS. You will be way better assisted in USA or even South America as long as you have cash to pay. If you depend on the public system then NZ and AUS will be better.
    My take on is based on 28 years of experience living in South America, 2 years in USA, 3 years in AUS and 12 years in NZ.

    • @nicoletripp3331
      @nicoletripp3331 ปีที่แล้ว

      May I ask what experiences you have had? I live in the US and can’t tell you how many Drs have been rude, dismissive, blamed my symptoms on being a female or mental health, or even tried to blame me for the fragmented care of the current medical system. It has taken me over 20 years with visible and significant health issues to finally get the right diagnosis. And even with that diagnosis most of the Drs have very little knowledge of what that disease entails and so I am left responsible for educating the Drs as to how this disease can affect my body. The US healthcare is overburdened and fragmented. I would be very interested in how other countries are handling people like me, who need specialist and don’t fit in the box. Thanks for your insight.

    • @edias78
      @edias78 ปีที่แล้ว

      In USA you must have cash, the more the better to live a good life. Regular folks will be way better assisted here in NZ and AUS. As you mentioned the place is very fragmented because it’s size and the best people in any area are very specialised, they are not generalists like here in NZ. These people focus in a very specific niche and they work restless their entire lives on it, spend a lot in education and studying with the best people on that area, so that’s why they are the best. Also, these people sometimes are very competent but they are not necessarily very "nice". This nice way of treating each other here in NZ(that by the way I love), you have to give up in other places in the world. Remember, USA is a hash place, so you can’t expect everyone to be nice to you, they have different values and other priorities. To access those people you have to know where you are going and you have to be prepared to pay for it.
      Generally speaking and looking the society as a whole, NZ and AUS are hands down a way better place than USA for most people. However, the best professionals are not here and never will be, because of the culture and values. There are a lot of other reasons but I wont get into too much details. General speaking these people don't fit in, they don't want to fit and they can dictate the life they want to live.

  • @MaxSweet1
    @MaxSweet1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also job wise. Legally can't demise.....they need time to be retrained, same as OZ. Wattie's beep that up in HB, so it was in OZ/NZ created via a employment flaw loop hole 😂. That's ANZAC wide. Can't be changed. We steal most of OZ laws after monitoring their roll out. We are so cheap 😆 love it

  • @nicoletripp3331
    @nicoletripp3331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate your honesty and your perspective. It helps someone figure out if moving would be right for them.
    I must admit I strongly disagree with your opinion of homework. I do believe there is great value in applying what you learned, however I do believe the lack of separation from work and home has lead to an impossible stress load on the children. I believe the negative affects on mental and physical health far outweighs the small positive affects on learning the task. Let’s face it, who can remember anything from most of the classes we took in middle or high school. We remember college courses mostly because they were things that interested us and had big impacts on the careers in our future. I believe we should be teaching the child to love learning and how to learn rather then teaching them information that we feel is necessary to create them into the people we expect them to be. Does Everyone really need to learn 7th grade math, everyone need to learn earth science in 9th grade, and everyone needs to read Shakespeare to be a well rounded person. How about we teach kids to find what makes them tick, how to learn more about those things and help them become the best versions of themselves. And dare I say, perhaps if we could teach these things in a normal school hours, then perhaps the learning doesn’t stop in the classroom and we wouldn’t feel the need to control their free time. They would naturally use that time to learn more about what they love.
    Thank you for sharing your own experiences and the challenges you have faced. These conversations show the real side of blending into a new culture. Thank you for being bold enough to tell your truths.

    • @Kiwiamericans
      @Kiwiamericans  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nicole - yes I would have agreed with you when I first came to NZ. I agree with what you are saying as well - learning certain things seem pointless and also just to learn it for the test and then immediately forgetting it. I guess I have seen the effects of kids having too much time on their hands. I also see the lack of discipline when they get to the older grades and are just used to doing work so get easily overwhelmed. I agree it would ideal for kids to focus on what they love - but many have no idea what they love and need to get exposure to many things.

  • @Andy_M986
    @Andy_M986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your summation of not having the best to deal with your health is way off, wayyyyyyy off! I had the 2nd best knee surgeon in Australasia operate on my knee, you need to check your facts properly.

  • @baggagecarousel4495
    @baggagecarousel4495 ปีที่แล้ว

    well, that was certainly…
    a lot.

  • @messtime
    @messtime ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why your family returned to NZ after 2 years of absence. A lot of people know that America has big giant problems - don't hesitate to mention super negative situations - that's why i left the US. It's a total mess and going down fast.

  • @Remigius0815
    @Remigius0815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don’t like your aggressive style…

  • @frankrunge7
    @frankrunge7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely need to make education AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE TO LEARN - all online… I’m currently working on laying new spiritual foundation with 15% cap on immigration, with option to lower world population and expand in coming centuries, as an option… top priority at the moment. Notice how I’m communicating clearly… get that education easy as peasy to digest…

    • @Andrew-tf8jt
      @Andrew-tf8jt ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf are you bleeting about.

    • @frankrunge7
      @frankrunge7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Andrew-tf8jt I don’t have a brain 🤤

  • @frankrunge7
    @frankrunge7 ปีที่แล้ว

    💕💕💕🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧💕💕💕

    • @Andrew-tf8jt
      @Andrew-tf8jt ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope that's not supposed to be our flag😡🇳🇿