Using a Trencher - French Drain Install Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Jason uses a Barreto 712 Trencher in this first part of a French drain installation. With 150 feet of French drain to install, digging by hand wasn't really an option so we rented this Barreto trencher from Home Depot. Make sure you hit subscribe so you can catch the rest of this French drain project.
The Barreto 712MT user guide from Home Depot:
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The first thing I thought when I saw the ditch witch trencher was Its a chainsaw on wheels and its the most epic thing I have ever seen, it almost looks like its come straight out of kids drawing, and a awesome parent made it a reality.
Hahaha, that's true, it does kind of look like that. 😀
Excellent. Just what I was looking for as I take on a waterlogged property in need of several trenches. Also like Robbie T's suggestion of a truck, I suggest a 5x8 utility trailer, more room than the average pickup and much lower cost.
A trailer would've helped immensely! Although cramming the thing into my car provided more comedy, especially for the guys working at the Home Depot rental center. I'm sure someone lost money betting that I wouldn't get it in! :p
Good demo. Good machine. Good accent!
Thanks, I think. I don't have an accent; everyone else does! 😜
@@Handyverse I'm getting a hint of Highland Scottish behind the "Canuck". Love Canada and the people.🇨🇦🏴🥃
Just starting my project! So glad yours popped up! Very well done! Thanks, now I have to watch to complete!!
How can I find the rest of this specific job, please help and thanks!
Who thumbs down super helpful videos like this?? SMH! 5 thumbs up!
Thanks! I'm guessing most of the thumbs down are due to the music. I mucked up the volume levels when doing the final mix. Can't fix it now...
Handyverse Well thank you for helping me! 100 thumbs up from me!!!
How much width did you do? Did you have to swivel left and right to make it wider?
ive seen other videos say that the 6" trench that most trenchers can do may not move enough water and you should build wider with an excavator. What do you think about that? Id rather DIY with a trencher than an excavator. seems a lot easier and cheaper to rent.
Hmmm, I suppose it depends on how much water you need to move. 6" seems to be working fine for us but if you're in an area with high water issues, you might need something more robust...
I forgot to mention in the video, please check with local utilities before digging! Make sure there isn't anything underground that you're going to break.
How wide of a trench does it dig? Seems that it would need to be at least 6in for the 4in corrugated pipe
Thanks for the video. How close with this trencher do you think you could run along a sidewalk if the sidewalk is straight? Do you think you could trench an inch or so along the sidewalk and have one sides’ wheels on the sidewalk (so the saw part is right next to the sidewalk)?
Also do you think cardboard can be put under the other sides wheels so the dirt would be spit out on the cardboard and not on the ground? Thanks for any help on this.
Did this trencher make a 4” or wider trench for the 4” pipe or did you have to widen by shovel still?
I got one word for you...Truck! A great investment. Bought mine last year, and don't know how I managed without it! You can find preowned at very reasonable prices. Good DIY video. That machine certainly is a back saver for sure!
Haha, who needs a truck when I can cram everything into my Scion?! :p The trencher was a *huge* help. I only wish there was some type of machine to do the rest of the work now... 8)
Hey dad!!! Did you bring the truck? It's right outside Son!!!
Funniest line from a movie that wasn't supposed to be funny.
Hey what kind of suv is that? I have a CRV and I’m renting a trencher from Home Depot this weekend and wonder if it’ll fit in my car
Do you think this machine would cut through very large tree roots? I would say like 20 inches in diameter. Thanks for the information
No, sorry. I doubt it
What is the minimum and maximum width that trencher can do?
Did I see you double passing to make it wide or was one time enough?
Thanks for your informative video.
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching
Hi, I can only rent a 6 inch wide trencher, but I need 8 inches for the French drain.
Does it go wider than 6? Can you go back over it to widen it?
That's what I did here. It was only a 4" trencher and I needed 6". I ended up going back over it to widen it. It can be tough work but it's doable
Thank you!!@@Handyverse
Would this thing go through tree roots, and would that be a terrible idea?
It would go through smaller tree roots, maybe up to half an inch in diameter. I ran into some larger ones but had to cut them out by hand. It's ok to do as long as the roots you're cutting through don't cause a tree to become unstable.
Thanks maaan...I never understood the Expos Logo..Whats Up wit dat??
To dig for a 4" wide french drain tube, how many passes do you have to make ? Thx.
Great video would love to see part 2 of this video . Thank you sir
You can check out the part 2 of this video called "Installing a French Drain Part 2"
I was looking for that too. You should put a link in the description if you want your viewers to be able to go down the rabbit hole watching your project. If I got to your channel I get all the other stuff. Once I search I may drift away to someone else's channel. Just a suggestion
Will you please answer the following question? Can a person trench 400 feet of a trench in one day? The ground where I live is not that compacted or hard. I will be waiting for your response. Thank you.
I forgot to ask was it hard digging through that existing rock from the old french drain
No, that was all loose rock and came out quite easily. If there was still old tube left, the trencher ripped through it and made it easier to pull out as well
First off great hat!!! Expos!
Can you follow a curve with say a 20 ft radius (for like a flower bed)?
Any kitchen update videos coming? Just watched the cabinet painting video and want to see the countertops! 👏🏻
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your perspective!), we were happy enough after painting the cabinets that replacing the counter-top became a lower priority. We need to close off a few other projects before revisiting the kitchen, mainly the yard drainage, our laundry room makeover, and a Murphy bed build in our office so we have a spare bedroom when needed. It's still on the list though; we'll definitely get to it at some point! Thanks for watching.
It make a lot of noise?
For a newcomer - needing my hand slightly held 😅 how did you measure the depth in which you dug as you went? Also, can you not trench on slopes with the machine? - have about 150-200 feet to dig.
I just dug the trench and measured the depth afterwards with tape measure (or more specifically a level I have that has measurements on the side). You'll need to make multiple passes to get the depth and width you want. You can trench on slopes but the slope I had to dig on was far too steep to do it safely. Use your judgement and err on the safe side. This particular unit will dig 150-200 feet quite quickly if you don't have a lot of roots and/or rocks (or chunks of concrete in my case...). Good luck!
Great video! How many hours do you think it took, to trench the 50m or so you had? And how deep did you trench? TIA
Thanks! It probably took about two hours of work with the trencher but it will really depend on how many rocks and tree roots are in your way. I trenched down 18"
@@Handyverse Well, I hired the trencher, after an hour the chain came off the bar! Too many rocks I think! I'll have to finish after the holiday season, its a clients house that they rent for the summer. I did around 30m, the hardest part, another 150m to go, through the orchard. Thanks for the reply, bonne chance!
Oh man, that's rough. I think I would've broken down into tears if the chain came off on me after an hour given that I hauled the thing home in the back of my car!
love the Expos cap.
Yeah, still hoping they come back!
Any chance to share brand/model of that nifty foldable ramp you used to unload the trencher out of your car? Thanks in advance. 👽
Tractor supply has a bunch of different ramp things usually
How wide of a trench does this dig? Would 4 inch ads pipe fit without have to “carve” a larger trench?
This particular trencher digs a 4" wide trench. Your pipe should fit, but you wouldn't have any room for gravel around it. If that's what you want, it should work for you. Good luck!
U dont want fabric wrapped around the pipe.... grass and dirt will clog it quick
Nice video. To get to the desired depth do you trench a certain depth and then go back to the beginning and set it deeper and continue until you get down to 18 inches or do you set it to 18 inches from the beginning and try to do it in one pass? It looks like you did multiple passes to keep from overloading the machine, am I understanding that correctly? Thanks
Sorry for the late response. You are right; it took multiple passes while lower the depth a bit each time to get it to the full depth.
thanks for the video. how realistic do you think it is to use this in rocky soil? we live in Round Rock, TX, which is probably the limestone capitol of the world, right next to the quarry....And we have a very rocky property. I bought a jackhammer recently and used it when replacing fence posts. So, in my head, I imagine using the trencher for 30 seconds, hitting rock, shutting it off, breaking down the rock with the jack, and trenching again. You think this is realistic? Or it would destroy the trencher?
Sorry for the late response; just getting through some older comments now. That does sound like it would be pretty tough to work through. You might need to get something like a Kubota. I know for the first thirty feet I had to do, there was a lot of concrete buried under the soil and I had to stop every 6 to 12" to dig something out. It was painful!
hi handyverse, did home depot provide the ramps, or is that something you had?
They did actually provide the ramps. Normally they rent them separately (I think they're around $10 to rent) but I think they felt sorry for me trying to cram this into my car so they just let me borrow them for free... 😜
Good job! How heavy is this thing to lift into trunk?
Hah, thanks! It's pretty bloody heavy; it wasn't fun trying to get it in the back of the car!
Always call your local and state energy and fiberoptics companies to check for underground cables or gas lines first!
P.S.A.
Is it easy to learn when encountering rocks/ boulders underground?
It slows things down a lot and is quite a bit more work but it's manageable
Home depot in my area won't allow this anymore, they told me that if I have an accident the trench would tip over myself in a van and for this reason they don't load it into a van anymore. Only the trailer hook connection.
That makes sense, actually. It wasn't the safest thing cramming it into my car like I did. It wouldn't have been good if I had gotten into an accident...
@Greg Potter well you did not read the post carefully, since you have too little free time. this is what actually home depot told me and refused to help. I hope it is understandable.
@Greg Potter ok dud Thx
How long did it take to dig the 150ft?
I want to understand the pace of these things.
It really depends on what the ground is like. It took me about two hours to go the first 25 feet but then it only took me about the same amount of time with the trencher to do the remaining 125 feet. It was really slow when there were large rocks and/or chunks of buried concrete. With softer ground, it rolls through relatively quickly. I also had to spend some extra time widening the trench as it's only a 4" trencher and I didn't a 6" ditch. Keep that in mind when you're looking for one. Good luck!
@@Handyverse , Hey Handy how much did it cost to rent?
How fast do you think it did that job per foot?
It runs quite quickly though "normal" topsoil/fill. I'd say you could run 150 feet in a couple of hours. I hit a lot of concrete and larger rocks which slowed me down a lot.
Is this a self-propelled or you pull it?
never mind.. i see it
It is self-propelled but it's still a workout :)
@@Handyverse Then the non-self propelled like Northern Tool BRPT must be near impossible.
Ugh! That would be pretty tough. Good if you're looking for a workout at the same time!
nice presentation! was the depth setting lever enough for you or would you recommend one of those trenchers with auto grading capabilities ?
Thanks! The depth lever was sufficient for me but I also didn't have to worry about grading because there already is a gentle slope (although I'll double-check the grade before the next step). This particular unit can grade to 18" and you can set in four different increments so you could use it to grade but it would be challenging. I don't have any experience with one the auto-grades but that sounds like a pretty handy feature! Thanks for watching
Is it difficult to get the trench wide enough?
Sorry for the late response; just getting through some older comments now. It was a little tricky but definitely doable
Handyverse Run D Mc?
Yea I probably would put in earphones & Listen to run dmc...if I thought enough and had experience...but it’s required by law?
how much did it cost to rent per hour or day?
It was $120 per day but I happened to have a 50% off coupon so it only cost me $60. It would have been well worth it even at $120 though.
Can you share the rental information like which store and what model exactly?
I did 700 feet yesterday by hand with a trench shovel
I did 8 feet last week with a shovel. Learned about hardpan. Also learned that the builder left construction debris buried a few inches below the surface. Like 200 lb chunks of asphalt. Asphalt.
All I can think of whilst watching this is Trailer Park Boys hahahaha. Nah a very informative video though cheers mate
F#*$ off, Leahy! 😜 (censored for the kiddies... 🙂)
Thank you. I have to down at least 18”
Just a ditch digger commercial!!!
You need a bit more volume on your "background" music, the people that live 500 metres from me couldn't quite hear it!
Yeah, we've received that feedback from others as well. Sorry about that. It sounded fine on our system before we released it but obviously had level issues. We make sure to check any new videos on multiple sound devices before releasing them.
Go Expos
Expos!
I'm still hoping for a return! At least we get to see Vladdy Jr here now, even if it isn't in Montreal... :)
Great video, although the high energy EuroDance music added zero value to those of us interested in trenchers.
Safety first, the first thing to do is dial before you dig. You just never know there could be electrics or plumbing down there.
Little more/closer trenching and a little less loud techno music wouldn't have hurt
Sorry you didn't like the video.
Music it too loud vs your voice
Yeah, messed up the final mix. Unfortunately, no way for me to fix it now... 🙁
SMH
Good video but the crap music you can do without..
It is always a challenge to find the right fit for music but at the end of the day you have to go with something. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I agree, I'm here to learn about trenching. You don't need any music.
The music is absolutely obnoxious
lower the volume of your dang music, holy crap do you listen to your own videos?
Yeah, we've received that feedback from others as well. Sorry about that. It sounded fine on our system before we released it but obviously had level issues. We now make sure to check any new videos on multiple sound devices before releasing them.
Trencher for french drain? 6" wide? I bet it is out of order by now or will be soon like the 1 you removed... Terrible ideas like this should not be shown to others
its fine you are fake expert
@@cryengine_x Just seen many installed doing landscape work for years