How long will you continue to give these talks? I live just up the way in Fort Collins, have several of your translated myths and sagas, and enjoy your youtube channel. I’d love to see you live!
"Although the Arcane Background doesn’t make mages invisible, it makes them less noteworthy. An Arcane mage seems nondescript and not particularly noticeable. Features just seem to slip away from memory, and the mage just never seems to get caught on film. Records disappear, people forget the mage’s name or even assume that discussions are about someone different, and witnesses can’t garner more than “That guy. Girl. Whatever.” The mage doesn’t trigger these effects actively; they just happen. The mage can, however, consciously dampen the effect and allow others to see her as she truly is." The "Arcane" background from Mage the Ascension Revised edition published by White Wolf Game studios. The fourth level out of five reads: "There are scant photos, papers or records of you, and people can’t even agree on what you look like."
5:50 and in Faroese his name is Tórur. 8:20 Mjølnir, though it is likely a learnèd borrowing as I would expect *Mjølni (masculine -ir nouns (læknir, hirðir, Sverrir) tend to become weak nouns in Faroese (lækni (lækna), hirði (hirða), Sverri (Sverra))). Interesting about the "vit tvau". Faroese does the exact same as Icelandic with genders: tveir is masculine, tvær is feminine, and tvey is neuter or mixed, but saying "vit tvey" while being correct doesn't sound right, I would have translated that as "vit bæði" (we both). 38:00 another name would be Gertrude, from Old Norse Geirþrúðr, which I believe would be "spear-strength". Henotheism is a fascinating concept. I like to mention Norse place names when that comes up. You would think that if Óðinn was the all-thing he is supposed to be, that there would be place names named after him everywhere but there isn't. The most prominent is Odense in Denmark (Óðins væi). Here in the Faroe Islands, we pretty much exclusively have places named after Þórr, so we have Tórshavn, Tórsvík > Hósvík (tórs- > hós- is a common sound change), and Thursday is still Thor's day all over the country, where as Odin's Day has been replaced with Mid(week)day in most parts of the country. So maybe the Faroese mostly worshipped Thor? They were Þórsmenn? Possible, I guess.
Þórr in the Þrymskviða has an equivalent on the periodic table. Protactinium is next to thorium and is one of the three pseudo-homologues on the periodic table. Protactinium's chemistry is like elements in the vanadium group. It took chemists 70 years before they found out that protactinium is not a member of group 5 (vanadium group), but is the sister of praseodymium in the lanthanide series. No doubt about is: Protactinium (91), which is pentavalent, like vanadium, in group 5, is the hammerbride of the board of firststuffs (periodic table). The element deceived scientist for 70 years, even Medelejev believed it was the sister of Tantalum (tálvæni, grátsteinsfaðir, fimbulþungsteinn (fimble 5B), þungsteinn (tungsten))
Great information! Archaeologically speaking, there are artifacts marked with sigils of the "Hammer-man" dating all the way back to the Komsa/Fosna culture, a mesolithic pre-/proto- sami culture ca 8000 years ago. Apparently, Thor was the Storm/Maker Man even "before the gods were the gods," predating all surviving mythologies. Proto-Thor may have come from Siberians who came through the glacial gap from the Samoyed/Tungus region, or from the Berbers who migrated up the west coast as the glaciers melted back, or may have formed in place when the two met (human genome project mapping the dual origins of the sami). Anyway, it would seem that Thor is that old.
"the mythic present" is such a fascinating cross-cultural element: you see this sort of 'finis mundi' thinking in the tales you're relating here-Baldr is dead, but Ragnarǫk is not yet here-in a lot of mythic cosmologies. My own training has me most familiar with the Greek and Roman: neither is especially concerned about the eschaton (maybe the Gigantomachy is to come; maybe it's in the past, maybe Heracles is involved or maybe it's just another Titanomachy?), but they seem to agree (or indeed the Romans adopt from the Greeks) that the mythopoeiac age ends roughly with the Trojan war. You have the mythic past, three generations of heroes that culminates in the War, and then...history. and someday, the end. But even Christian eschatology and, if I may say, as a devout Christian, Christian mythopoesis, posits that "now" is indeed the end of the world. Jesus came, historically, into the world (and Christians claim that he was indeed God made flesh), which signaled the beginning of the end. And someday, the eschaton. I don't have broad enough knowledge to extend that thesis cross-culturally; most of what I know was developed on that old European peninsula or not too far East or South of it. BUT IT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
Well if you think about it, it's simply a meta generalization of the life of an average man applied across time itself. The future is always dark since the only thing awaiting you is doom. Whereas the past was full of hope and child wonder but also hard to recall at times. The present is what you're stuck with but the knowledge that it's all downhill still lingers.
@casthedemon I like that psychological angle. Man as microcosm. I wonder how the disjunction between the experience of the new man-a genuine infant, say-and the usually heroic and wondrous past complicates that thesis. I'm unconvinced on that particular.
@@HighKingTurgon well Tolkien had the same thesis. That was kind of one of the major points of the Lord of the Rings. The Shire represents childhood and youth (and the past in general.) The journey is taken through adolescence and by the time of adulthood, even when you return to The Shire, it is never the same as it was in your perfect memory. That's why Frodo eventually leaves for Valinor. He can't reconcile himself. Tolkien had the view that life gets worse over time not better. There's always some beacon of hope (destroying the Ring) but even if you survive you won't be able to fully appreciate the victory. Almost every society has an end of the world myth. This is due to not only recognizing that all life eventually ends, both on a personal and universal scale (even stars die,) but it's also a recognition that nothing ever stays the same. Change is inevitable. And it's like the ship of Theseus, once all the parts are gone from the original ship, the world has ended for it.
@@HighKingTurgon you can see this same phenomenon in Christianity as well. Christians have been saying the end of the world is around the corner for 2000 years. And in some sense, it always is. You never know when you're gonna die. And when you die, so does your world. But on a larger scale, the world today is completely different and alien to the world 50 years ago, 100, etc. The world is always ending. And always beginning. Until our sun dies and we along with it anyway. But humans can't really think in terms of millions or billions of years. We have a hard time grasping a hundred or a thousand years. So we have to apply the only frame of reference we have, our finite lives and the lives of those around us. At any given point in time, a human can only grasp about a 200 year span of time, and that's with help from grandparents and grandkids. Things like the far future are beyond us.
@casthedemon Is this in "On Fairy-Stories," or explicated in one of his letters? I think that your fuller explanation accords just fine with Tolkien's identification of eucatastrophe, but I don't think that such events (or his Akallabêth, or the Wars of the Powers or War of Wrath) neatly map to an "ages of man" conceit that Shakespeare mocks in As You Like It.
What if Thor literally represents the element Thorium, like a lightning energy source? Would it not make sense that the gods and lesser gods are simply representative of our natural elements and planets? That would explain why there are so many of them in various degrees symbolically being explained the same way by different names all over the world and in numerology. There is an abundance of Thorium in Sweden for example
Since Thorium wasn't discovered until 1829, these stories were written hundreds of years before any elements were discovered, and the element was named after him: no
@ pretty certain that they had a the elements discovered and numbered and integrated into most things 10,000+ years ago at the least. Modern history is a fart in the wind and if you think they knew what thorium only 100 years ago I suggest you open your mind and do some digging
Thank you for letting us in to your presentation.
I love the short stories and thoughts and funny asides. You are such the drawl cowboy skald!
Things I will remember from this video: 1) some rocks lie, and 2) Jackson Crawford has prizes! :D
Much appreciated and very informative!
If I ever go to Colorado, you bet you will find me there! Warm greetings from Athens
I like these videos, just wish we could see the whole whiteboard :)
Really enjoyed that. Thank you!
How long will you continue to give these talks? I live just up the way in Fort Collins, have several of your translated myths and sagas, and enjoy your youtube channel. I’d love to see you live!
"Although the Arcane Background doesn’t make mages invisible, it makes them less noteworthy. An Arcane mage seems nondescript and not particularly noticeable. Features just seem to slip away from memory, and the mage just never seems to get caught on film. Records disappear, people forget the mage’s name or even assume that discussions are about someone different, and witnesses can’t garner more than “That guy. Girl. Whatever.” The mage doesn’t trigger these effects actively; they just happen. The mage can, however, consciously dampen the effect and allow others to see her as she truly is."
The "Arcane" background from Mage the Ascension Revised edition published by White Wolf Game studios.
The fourth level out of five reads: "There are scant photos, papers or records of you, and people can’t even agree on what you look like."
5:50 and in Faroese his name is Tórur. 8:20 Mjølnir, though it is likely a learnèd borrowing as I would expect *Mjølni (masculine -ir nouns (læknir, hirðir, Sverrir) tend to become weak nouns in Faroese (lækni (lækna), hirði (hirða), Sverri (Sverra))).
Interesting about the "vit tvau". Faroese does the exact same as Icelandic with genders: tveir is masculine, tvær is feminine, and tvey is neuter or mixed, but saying "vit tvey" while being correct doesn't sound right, I would have translated that as "vit bæði" (we both).
38:00 another name would be Gertrude, from Old Norse Geirþrúðr, which I believe would be "spear-strength".
Henotheism is a fascinating concept. I like to mention Norse place names when that comes up. You would think that if Óðinn was the all-thing he is supposed to be, that there would be place names named after him everywhere but there isn't. The most prominent is Odense in Denmark (Óðins væi). Here in the Faroe Islands, we pretty much exclusively have places named after Þórr, so we have Tórshavn, Tórsvík > Hósvík (tórs- > hós- is a common sound change), and Thursday is still Thor's day all over the country, where as Odin's Day has been replaced with Mid(week)day in most parts of the country. So maybe the Faroese mostly worshipped Thor? They were Þórsmenn? Possible, I guess.
Þórr in the Þrymskviða has an equivalent on the periodic table. Protactinium is next to thorium and is one of the three pseudo-homologues on the periodic table. Protactinium's chemistry is like elements in the vanadium group. It took chemists 70 years before they found out that protactinium is not a member of group 5 (vanadium group), but is the sister of praseodymium in the lanthanide series. No doubt about is: Protactinium (91), which is pentavalent, like vanadium, in group 5, is the hammerbride of the board of firststuffs (periodic table). The element deceived scientist for 70 years, even Medelejev believed it was the sister of Tantalum (tálvæni, grátsteinsfaðir, fimbulþungsteinn (fimble 5B), þungsteinn (tungsten))
Crawford keeps putting two fingers to his neck (checking his pulse?) Any idea why?
Great information! Archaeologically speaking, there are artifacts marked with sigils of the "Hammer-man" dating all the way back to the Komsa/Fosna culture, a mesolithic pre-/proto- sami culture ca 8000 years ago. Apparently, Thor was the Storm/Maker Man even "before the gods were the gods," predating all surviving mythologies.
Proto-Thor may have come from Siberians who came through the glacial gap from the Samoyed/Tungus region, or from the Berbers who migrated up the west coast as the glaciers melted back, or may have formed in place when the two met (human genome project mapping the dual origins of the sami). Anyway, it would seem that Thor is that old.
"the mythic present" is such a fascinating cross-cultural element: you see this sort of 'finis mundi' thinking in the tales you're relating here-Baldr is dead, but Ragnarǫk is not yet here-in a lot of mythic cosmologies. My own training has me most familiar with the Greek and Roman: neither is especially concerned about the eschaton (maybe the Gigantomachy is to come; maybe it's in the past, maybe Heracles is involved or maybe it's just another Titanomachy?), but they seem to agree (or indeed the Romans adopt from the Greeks) that the mythopoeiac age ends roughly with the Trojan war. You have the mythic past, three generations of heroes that culminates in the War, and then...history. and someday, the end. But even Christian eschatology and, if I may say, as a devout Christian, Christian mythopoesis, posits that "now" is indeed the end of the world. Jesus came, historically, into the world (and Christians claim that he was indeed God made flesh), which signaled the beginning of the end. And someday, the eschaton.
I don't have broad enough knowledge to extend that thesis cross-culturally; most of what I know was developed on that old European peninsula or not too far East or South of it. BUT IT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
Well if you think about it, it's simply a meta generalization of the life of an average man applied across time itself. The future is always dark since the only thing awaiting you is doom. Whereas the past was full of hope and child wonder but also hard to recall at times. The present is what you're stuck with but the knowledge that it's all downhill still lingers.
@casthedemon I like that psychological angle. Man as microcosm. I wonder how the disjunction between the experience of the new man-a genuine infant, say-and the usually heroic and wondrous past complicates that thesis. I'm unconvinced on that particular.
@@HighKingTurgon well Tolkien had the same thesis. That was kind of one of the major points of the Lord of the Rings. The Shire represents childhood and youth (and the past in general.) The journey is taken through adolescence and by the time of adulthood, even when you return to The Shire, it is never the same as it was in your perfect memory. That's why Frodo eventually leaves for Valinor. He can't reconcile himself.
Tolkien had the view that life gets worse over time not better. There's always some beacon of hope (destroying the Ring) but even if you survive you won't be able to fully appreciate the victory.
Almost every society has an end of the world myth. This is due to not only recognizing that all life eventually ends, both on a personal and universal scale (even stars die,) but it's also a recognition that nothing ever stays the same. Change is inevitable. And it's like the ship of Theseus, once all the parts are gone from the original ship, the world has ended for it.
@@HighKingTurgon you can see this same phenomenon in Christianity as well. Christians have been saying the end of the world is around the corner for 2000 years. And in some sense, it always is. You never know when you're gonna die. And when you die, so does your world. But on a larger scale, the world today is completely different and alien to the world 50 years ago, 100, etc. The world is always ending. And always beginning. Until our sun dies and we along with it anyway. But humans can't really think in terms of millions or billions of years. We have a hard time grasping a hundred or a thousand years. So we have to apply the only frame of reference we have, our finite lives and the lives of those around us. At any given point in time, a human can only grasp about a 200 year span of time, and that's with help from grandparents and grandkids. Things like the far future are beyond us.
@casthedemon Is this in "On Fairy-Stories," or explicated in one of his letters? I think that your fuller explanation accords just fine with Tolkien's identification of eucatastrophe, but I don't think that such events (or his Akallabêth, or the Wars of the Powers or War of Wrath) neatly map to an "ages of man" conceit that Shakespeare mocks in As You Like It.
*Thor in our thources
What if Thor literally represents the element Thorium, like a lightning energy source? Would it not make sense that the gods and lesser gods are simply representative of our natural elements and planets? That would explain why there are so many of them in various degrees symbolically being explained the same way by different names all over the world and in numerology. There is an abundance of Thorium in Sweden for example
Since Thorium wasn't discovered until 1829, these stories were written hundreds of years before any elements were discovered, and the element was named after him: no
@ pretty certain that they had a the elements discovered and numbered and integrated into most things 10,000+ years ago at the least. Modern history is a fart in the wind and if you think they knew what thorium only 100 years ago I suggest you open your mind and do some digging