So clearly you're not the most ebullient youtuber for RSL. But when it comes to Theorycrafting you blow my mind everytime. Best source of knowledge out here. Keep it up
I have finally figured out why there are not as many comments on your videos compared to others. It is because you are on a whole another level of intellect and theory-crafting knowledge compared to any other raid content creator. Keep up the amazing work bud!
Good job mate ! I was waiting for someone to really analyze the leech debuff. It will be nice to start getting some data points so we can figure out what really works and what doesn't !
5k sub, this guy deserve a plarium pump up! I bet you ll be the next one ! Thx for all theses informations. I guess you are my hero since you found a utility to my poor Yannica :D
Thanks for this video, incredibly helpful. All I ever hear people say is just put in a Leech champ and you'll be fine without actually explaining how it works. Just from my own use and comparing it to life steal it didn't seem like enough. This was a massive help while I was trying to work Ghrush into my team on my f2p account.
Love the out of the box thinking. I am thinking of re-gearing for this team with a speed comp no poisons. Tyrel, Arbiter, Yannica, Rotos, and Sethallia/ Shamrock as my final piece. I'll let you guys know what I find.
Hey man thanks for the video. You are the best ! I have a question. I want to build a CA team and ı have Marty-Frozen Banshe or Occult Brawler-Tyrant Ixlamor-Apoth because my heroes are not fast enough-Kael. This is my team for now.After watching this video i think i will remove kael for a dec attack champ. One more question,is Tyrant Ixlamor good for CB CA team ? If ı will remove Tyrant what should ı use instead ?
I go leech if I ever pull a leech champ. Until then I stay with the old strategy. Nice vid, always good to know what you think about such "new" strategies.
@Murderlnc Bro need some advise regarding your video u mention about the SLOW BURN LEECH CB TEAM. My cb team is quite same to what u mention but hit is really low. I'm using duchess to decrease damage, darco to poison and decrease defense, tayrel to decrease attack, erinyes to extend debuff and apothecary for speed and healing. Is this team all right? Please advise.
@@MurderIncRaid bro can u please let me know what kind of speed should I run on my team? And for my team possible to run in auto. Please do advice. Thank u and appreciate
How would you gear a character like Zavia or Nethril for cb? Would you still go atk, 100% crit and make them die faster or go for survivability since it is so low on those 2 types of characters?
i was using leech before the buff hahah together with bad-el will always heal to full. it takes like 5 sec or 1 min to set up xD. it does around 28 to 45mil per key on nightmare and 60 ish on brutal and 75ish on hard. it's super inconsistant but i like it that way :P im a 1 mans clan so it doesnt matter! it's ever improving so slightly but, here is my team: lead(stun): Foli - relentless/speed (defence down - leech) hp: 27k / atk: 2,988 / def: 3,210 / spd: 226 / cr rate: 86% / cr dmg: 166% / acc 249 Arbiter - speed x3 (weaken - attack up - revive) hp: 40,5k / atk: 1,992 / def: 4,060 / spd: 297 / cr rate: 49% / cr dmg: 111% / acc 229 Bad-el-Kazar - reflex/speed (best support in my arsenal) hp: 40k / atk: 2,774 / def: 2,916 / spd: 227 / cr rate: 89% / cr dmg: 105% / acc 252 Golden Reaper - relentless/acc (chance lower a random ally cooldown - atk down - spd up) hp: 37,5k / atk: 1,994 / def: 3,458 / spd: 233 / cr rate: 31% / cr dmg: 125% / acc 235 Whisper - relentless/cruel (weaken and pure dmg with broken a2)((attack up doesn't apply) hp: 42,5k / atk: 3,089 / def: 2,205 / spd: 188 / cr rate: 88% / cr dmg: 211% / acc 175
Hey Murder - currently 3 key UNM with unkillable so I have a free key to play with each day on NM .... thinking about running the following team --- Yannica, Draco, Septimus, Doompriest... who would be a good 5th? I don't have attack down which is probably a huge problem... All 3 of those dmg champs are around 300% crit dmg so they hit like absolute trucks - who would be a good attack down here? Jareg?? I don't have any speed up or CA in this team either...
I've told people before how underrated Lugan is for clan boss with him swinging for 80-100k with each A1 to heal everyone for 25% of the damage. I've been running with Lugan in poison set with raw damage champs in poison sets such as brakus
@@pepschp5355 max hp, crit rate and crit dmg. He can hit for up to 100k with def down and weaken. His a1 scales off of hp but u want crit dmg as primary with as much hp as you can possibly get from stuff like immortal or crit dmg sets. You'd need insane gear to do 100k a hit tbh
Hey man, could you make a video/video update on rotos in clan boss with relentless vs savage or whatever other good set options, now that plarium stealth nerfed relentless on extra turn champs like rotos ?
@MurderInc have you ever done Ca (skullcrusher for example) going 3 turns while boss goes 2? That way you could get more hits to proc wm for ls/leech. Also CA would be active all the time. Is it even possible to have them go in the correct order if others are tuned to 170/190 boss speeds or will the turn alternate?
I fully intend to try to make Ma'shalled + Turvold work for me - thoughts were to have Frozen Banshee for my poisoner (due to being very predictable so as to not overwrite other buffs) Skullcrusher is only CA but might have to drop him so i can also fit in Jareg and Rhazin, but maybe i just go without the poisons. Might switch to Coffin Smasher for higher Dps potential.
Would be interesting to see you take on all the epic and rare champions with leech, as this video was awesome, it was mostly focused on Legendary champions. I think someone like Seneschal could be really good.
Hey! As mentioned in the video there are endless options as far as champions go. All you have to do is read the kit and compare it to the checklist I have for each composition to see what will work for you!
I currently have ~30mil key in unm CA comp with primarily leech heals + souldrinker mastery, no lifesteal gear. I am running OC/FB, Altan, Brogni (previously Blind Seer at ~5Mil less dmg), Martyr and Rugnor. Skull Crusher is definitely too expensive to make this comp worth attempting since he has 2 attacks per cycle and absorbs dmg with ally protect. Blind seer has lower dmg output than Brogni, has lower base stats and self sacrifice is too fitting of the name; drawing agro as the only target without the block dmg buff. With the current bug of Brogni shield reflect proccing WM I've switched to GS and plan on pushing higher hp.
Not sure if you're into fitness, but you're like the Jeff Cavaliere of Raid. If you know why, you'll know how big of a statement this is :) Keep up the great work!
I don't know why they just didn't make leech much higher, or closer to lifesteal. It's not like it would make lifesteal obsolete, considering there isn't many leech champs anyway. And you would have to make the decision of wether or not, sacrificing that debuff slot for a leech will be worth it for your comp.
Use SC in lifesteal and everyone else heals from leech. I use yannica for leech because her a2 can heal her back fully from the leech which is more consistent than masteries. Props on your guide for her
Your ideas make me mad because you go outside the box that I am familiar with... I read your great input and my mind just stops working SLOW BURN LEECH - does it mean counterattack champ can be out of the team? I have 1 Duchess (Norog as well), 2 Draco, 3 Altan, 4 /5 currently Steelskull and Skullcrusher but working on Flesh-Tearer to go instead of Steelskull to have the whole team hidden in erfect veil behind Duchess almost all of the time. And yesterday I got Yannica and I can't figure out what to do with her. What would be your team if you had these 8 champions to work with? Thank you very much
oh, CA is further in the list -this option was for those without CA champ, never mind. Skullcrusher stays so the dream team would probably be Duchess, Draco, Altan, Skullcrusher and Yannica, right?
I guess you could put them in 2-3 sets of Immortal to add 6-9% healing or use a champion like Black Knight with his 15% cont heal to make up the difference. Although you would lose benefits from other sets using Immortal
MurderInc Raid ok. You‘re Right. Then I do need another hard hitting champ. Rotos? Or should I go with Rhazin but I haven’t booked him. Thx a lot for your answer.
Hmm... I'm having a little issue with this. You're not taking into consideration, I think, that you can now use 4 pieces of another (or two other) set/s. With Savage or 2x Cruel you can surely augment your damage. Maybe even enough to sustain.
Raid mathematician!
So clearly you're not the most ebullient youtuber for RSL. But when it comes to Theorycrafting you blow my mind everytime. Best source of knowledge out here. Keep it up
learned a new word, thanks
Hey, I'm free to play. Put away those twenty dollar words. :D
beneath that dreadful monotone is a clever theorycrafter. who would've thought, keep it up man
I have finally figured out why there are not as many comments on your videos compared to others. It is because you are on a whole another level of intellect and theory-crafting knowledge compared to any other raid content creator. Keep up the amazing work bud!
Good job mate ! I was waiting for someone to really analyze the leech debuff. It will be nice to start getting some data points so we can figure out what really works and what doesn't !
5k sub, this guy deserve a plarium pump up! I bet you ll be the next one !
Thx for all theses informations. I guess you are my hero since you found a utility to my poor Yannica :D
dominique LELUC after the buff, her a2 easily hits for over 150k...I don’t get why people vault her. One of the best champs I’ve pulled
Awesome vid ... great to see all the different types of comps :D
Thanks for this video, incredibly helpful. All I ever hear people say is just put in a Leech champ and you'll be fine without actually explaining how it works. Just from my own use and comparing it to life steal it didn't seem like enough. This was a massive help while I was trying to work Ghrush into my team on my f2p account.
Thx for the explanation and research 👍
yo MuderInc you are the best :D
:D
Wow Lech vids from Hellhades and Murdferinc in the same day! thanks guys!
Awesome job!
Very good content. Not many strong analytical breakdowns available. Thank you for the efforts.
Very helpful video, thanks for the info. Appreciate the time and effort you put into this.
Thanks, saved me a load of resources. Currently have 38M/key ave. UNM (void) team all in LS, so no point changing over to leech team.
What comp you running for them numbers :D?
@@Fanmezia BeK, Valk, Vizier, Altan, and Rhazin
Love the out of the box thinking. I am thinking of re-gearing for this team with a speed comp no poisons. Tyrel, Arbiter, Yannica, Rotos, and Sethallia/ Shamrock as my final piece. I'll let you guys know what I find.
Awesome video. Can u do a video on the fast leech (revive) comp. I have Ma’shalled, Cardinal, Sepulcher, Rhazin, OB - trying to 4 key UNM or better
This is some legit info! Definitely wanting to test some leech teams
Hey man thanks for the video. You are the best ! I have a question. I want to build a CA team and ı have Marty-Frozen Banshe or Occult Brawler-Tyrant Ixlamor-Apoth because my heroes are not fast enough-Kael. This is my team for now.After watching this video i think i will remove kael for a dec attack champ. One more question,is Tyrant Ixlamor good for CB CA team ? If ı will remove Tyrant what should ı use instead ?
Two months ago I was crying about pulling Yannica
Now I am the happiest dude on the planet
same
I go leech if I ever pull a leech champ. Until then I stay with the old strategy. Nice vid, always good to know what you think about such "new" strategies.
I just pooled Elenari and Mortu this weekend. I wonder if you could do a guide on them. thank you!
Did you test any team with a debuf extender (Vizier/Warlord/etc)? I did not catch any mention of this. What do you think?
an extender can work for sure in one of those utility slots i have for the comps listed!
Thanks for the content!
@Murderlnc
Bro need some advise regarding your video u mention about the SLOW BURN LEECH CB TEAM.
My cb team is quite same to what u mention but hit is really low.
I'm using duchess to decrease damage, darco to poison and decrease defense, tayrel to decrease attack, erinyes to extend debuff and apothecary for speed and healing.
Is this team all right? Please advise.
yes that looks good
@@MurderIncRaid bro can u please let me know what kind of speed should I run on my team? And for my team possible to run in auto. Please do advice. Thank u and appreciate
How would you gear a character like Zavia or Nethril for cb? Would you still go atk, 100% crit and make them die faster or go for survivability since it is so low on those 2 types of characters?
Curious to know how to gear Yannica for this CB setup. Keep the good work! Nice to see some unique content.
i was using leech before the buff hahah together with bad-el will always heal to full.
it takes like 5 sec or 1 min to set up xD.
it does around 28 to 45mil per key on nightmare and 60 ish on brutal and 75ish on hard.
it's super inconsistant but i like it that way :P
im a 1 mans clan so it doesnt matter!
it's ever improving so slightly but,
here is my team:
lead(stun): Foli - relentless/speed (defence down - leech)
hp: 27k / atk: 2,988 / def: 3,210 / spd: 226 / cr rate: 86% / cr dmg: 166% / acc 249
Arbiter - speed x3 (weaken - attack up - revive)
hp: 40,5k / atk: 1,992 / def: 4,060 / spd: 297 / cr rate: 49% / cr dmg: 111% / acc 229
Bad-el-Kazar - reflex/speed (best support in my arsenal)
hp: 40k / atk: 2,774 / def: 2,916 / spd: 227 / cr rate: 89% / cr dmg: 105% / acc 252
Golden Reaper - relentless/acc (chance lower a random ally cooldown - atk down - spd up)
hp: 37,5k / atk: 1,994 / def: 3,458 / spd: 233 / cr rate: 31% / cr dmg: 125% / acc 235
Whisper - relentless/cruel (weaken and pure dmg with broken a2)((attack up doesn't apply)
hp: 42,5k / atk: 3,089 / def: 2,205 / spd: 188 / cr rate: 88% / cr dmg: 211% / acc 175
Hey Murder - currently 3 key UNM with unkillable so I have a free key to play with each day on NM .... thinking about running the following team --- Yannica, Draco, Septimus, Doompriest... who would be a good 5th? I don't have attack down which is probably a huge problem... All 3 of those dmg champs are around 300% crit dmg so they hit like absolute trucks - who would be a good attack down here? Jareg?? I don't have any speed up or CA in this team either...
Not sure where to make a request, but would u pls do a video on Shirimani. Just got her and not sure where to position her.
Can Grush be mixed in a team like this? Paired with Scullcrusher, Frozen Banshee, Tyrel, Kreela, Saito…
Senechal looks interesting now
Where does the leech champ go in the slow burn team?
I wondered the same thing
me too
Great video. Thanks
Why there is no steelskull on your support/healer list ?
I've told people before how underrated Lugan is for clan boss with him swinging for 80-100k with each A1 to heal everyone for 25% of the damage. I've been running with Lugan in poison set with raw damage champs in poison sets such as brakus
So you are saying he is worth building? I pulled him over this 2x event along with a BEK (whom I quickly built up to usability).
@@pepschp5355 max hp, crit rate and crit dmg. He can hit for up to 100k with def down and weaken. His a1 scales off of hp but u want crit dmg as primary with as much hp as you can possibly get from stuff like immortal or crit dmg sets. You'd need insane gear to do 100k a hit tbh
what am i looking for in terms of speed in a leech team with skullcrusher and ma salad?because of the speed buff of ma salad my rota gets screwed
Could you do a lugan the steadfast guide?
Hey man, could you make a video/video update on rotos in clan boss with relentless vs savage or whatever other good set options, now that plarium stealth nerfed relentless on extra turn champs like rotos ?
@MurderInc have you ever done Ca (skullcrusher for example) going 3 turns while boss goes 2? That way you could get more hits to proc wm for ls/leech. Also CA would be active all the time. Is it even possible to have them go in the correct order if others are tuned to 170/190 boss speeds or will the turn alternate?
i have the speed is hard to reach while keep stats high enough to get the best value!
How would you build doompriest for cb? Definitely warmaster mastery but set wise what would you do? I have mines in a spd set and 2x immortal sets atm
85% CR 180 CD 3k atk 40k hp 3.5k def as far as end goal
MurderInc Raid appreciate it my man! will aim for those stats
I fully intend to try to make Ma'shalled + Turvold work for me - thoughts were to have Frozen Banshee for my poisoner (due to being very predictable so as to not overwrite other buffs) Skullcrusher is only CA but might have to drop him so i can also fit in Jareg and Rhazin, but maybe i just go without the poisons. Might switch to Coffin Smasher for higher Dps potential.
Can you do a guide on lugan the steadfast. I pulled him during 2x!
How about Initwe bloodtwin?
Would be interesting to see you take on all the epic and rare champions with leech, as this video was awesome, it was mostly focused on Legendary champions. I think someone like Seneschal could be really good.
Hey! As mentioned in the video there are endless options as far as champions go. All you have to do is read the kit and compare it to the checklist I have for each composition to see what will work for you!
@@MurderIncRaid True, thanks for the reply.
What's your thoughts on making a leech team with a Bride?
Did I miss something or does the "Slow burn leech team" have no leech?
I currently have ~30mil key in unm CA comp with primarily leech heals + souldrinker mastery, no lifesteal gear.
I am running OC/FB, Altan, Brogni (previously Blind Seer at ~5Mil less dmg), Martyr and Rugnor.
Skull Crusher is definitely too expensive to make this comp worth attempting since he has 2 attacks per cycle and absorbs dmg with ally protect. Blind seer has lower dmg output than Brogni, has lower base stats and self sacrifice is too fitting of the name; drawing agro as the only target without the block dmg buff.
With the current bug of Brogni shield reflect proccing WM I've switched to GS and plan on pushing higher hp.
norog is good for cb?
is rhazin good for raw damage?
Not sure if you're into fitness, but you're like the Jeff Cavaliere of Raid. If you know why, you'll know how big of a statement this is :) Keep up the great work!
I don't know why they just didn't make leech much higher, or closer to lifesteal. It's not like it would make lifesteal obsolete, considering there isn't many leech champs anyway. And you would have to make the decision of wether or not, sacrificing that debuff slot for a leech will be worth it for your comp.
Use SC in lifesteal and everyone else heals from leech. I use yannica for leech because her a2 can heal her back fully from the leech which is more consistent than masteries. Props on your guide for her
What do think about : Skullcrusher, seneschal, sepulcher, dracomorph, vrask ?
Thx.
definitely an option!
My man murder knocking it out of the park again!
What speed would Martyr need to keep atk down by herself unm?
Thanks if you get the chance to answer!
200 as long as she is with a speed buff/tm boost champ!
@@MurderIncRaid thanks so much!
Why damage per minute, and not damage per turn? Wouldn't per turn be more precise?
in a minute each champion uses their whole kit as opposed to 1 skill per turn of a champion!
Your ideas make me mad because you go outside the box that I am familiar with... I read your great input and my mind just stops working
SLOW BURN LEECH - does it mean counterattack champ can be out of the team?
I have
1 Duchess (Norog as well),
2 Draco,
3 Altan,
4 /5 currently Steelskull and Skullcrusher but working on Flesh-Tearer to go instead of Steelskull to have the whole team hidden in erfect veil behind Duchess almost all of the time. And yesterday I got Yannica and I can't figure out what to do with her.
What would be your team if you had these 8 champions to work with? Thank you very much
oh, CA is further in the list -this option was for those without CA champ, never mind. Skullcrusher stays so the dream team would probably be Duchess, Draco, Altan, Skullcrusher and Yannica, right?
that team would work, yannica would be out a sync and as soon as someone is revived the whole team would desync in turn
I guess you could put them in 2-3 sets of Immortal to add 6-9% healing or use a champion like Black Knight with his 15% cont heal to make up the difference. Although you would lose benefits from other sets using Immortal
Hi, I think I will try it with Martyr, Raglin, My Salad and double Draco. A good idea? Thx for the amazing content
double draco is risky with a speed boost and tm boost! thats a lot of poisons which would make it hard for martyr to get atk down on the boss!
MurderInc Raid ok. You‘re Right. Then I do need another hard hitting champ. Rotos? Or should I go with Rhazin but I haven’t booked him. Thx a lot for your answer.
How exactly is Ma'Shalled's leech on a two turn CD?
Shea Bunge he gets to take an extra Turn Right” after applying leech, so it’s effectively 2 turns
@@inspir3d81 Ahh, that makes a lot of sense, thanks.
Holy crap.......you found a use for my girl Teela
I actually have a minaya could u do a guide on her?
I have a guide on her!
Hmm... I'm having a little issue with this. You're not taking into consideration, I think, that you can now use 4 pieces of another (or two other) set/s. With Savage or 2x Cruel you can surely augment your damage. Maybe even enough to sustain.
I wish i hadn't missed the stream :S
Merci
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How much money have you spent on this game sir
"My Salad" :)))))
Just put LuganThe Steadfast no need leach
Double Teela could be good
1.25 speed is perfect guys.
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