The BEST Moc Toe Boots for Men | Red Wing vs Grant Stone vs Thursday vs Dievier
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Looking to add a new pair of men's moc toe boots to your collection? Today I'm comparing four great options. It's the Red Wing Classic Moc vs the Grant Stone Brass Boot vs the Thursday Boot Company Diplomat vs the Dievier Nomad. Different boots at different price ranges with different style. Which one is right for you?
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00:00 - [ Introduction ]
01:15 - [Dievier Nomad ]
03:15 - [ Thursday Diplomat ]
05:13 - [ Red Wing Classic Moc ]
07:56 - [ Grant Stone Brass Boot ]
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You have to cut it half!!! That’s the only way I know how to review boots
Excellent! Maybe cap toe is the way since most mocs fall short of what I want in a boot.
Speaking of....have you ever laid hands on or reviewed Sutro boots?
@@vahngeo2260 Looking them up right now I like those Blake Chelseas.
@@StrayReviews I like the Alders...cap toe but with a flair.
I've got the Grant Stone Ottawa, Red Wing, Whites, and Thorogood moc toes. I honestly love them all. The 8" safety toe Thorogood is my go-to work boot. Crazy comfortable, durable, longlasting, and good looking. Yard work, hiking, camping, meeting the guys for beers at the local watering hole: Red Wings. Just *the* classic Americana boot. This is the boot the others are imitating. Period. Everything else, anything a little nicer, I usually go with the GS Ottawa boot. My Whites getting worn the least. Rarely, honestly. Any time I'm likely to wear them, I'm just more likely to grab the RWs. Nothing wrong with the Whites. They are great boots. I just usually grab the RWs.
Very nice! I was close to picking up a pair of Whites recently. I'm glad I saw your comment before I pulled the trigger. My Red Wings are my go-to moc toes these days too.
For the people that doesn’t know Grant Stone is an American company making high quality boots with American, Italian (and other countries) materials assembled in China. Thats why you get an $800 pair of boots for half the price, if they were made here in the states you’ll be paying $700-$800 for a pair easily.
True. Really great boot for the price regardless of where it’s made.
I'll pay the $700-$800 price tag for American made boots. Grant Stone is not an American company. They are venture capitalists that have a company name based in America that outsource jobs to China.
No they wouldnt be 700-800. They'd be like 500. There's plenty of American companies with exact same quality materials as grant stone for 500 bucks. For example Truman.
Grant Stone is a chinese company made in China. To be an American company you need to make your product in America...
For 399$ you can get a Truman rough out boot made in USA...with better materials. Grant Stone is probably ripping its customers off with its inflated pricing.
@@TheMIghtyElmoagreed. Think about all the PNW Moc toes in that price range. The grant stones would never cost the price of a Russell Moc at $7-800
Wow, what a lineup. Man you’re getting better and better, I can only see this channel growing.
Thanks for that, Justin! That’s what I’m hoping for.
Man ... that red wing looks awesome ! 👌
They’ve really grown on me. Great boots!
Sick vid man, good work
Thanks so much Weston!
Man I never liked Thursdays until I saw your video. I like redwings but might have to give those a try.
They’re great boots once you size them right. I opted to go with my brannock size and they’re 👌
Great review sir! I have never heard of the Nomad but it looks great. I might have to grab a pair. And I agree about the forest green. I own the Grant Stone Brass boots in the Kangaroo leather Forest Green and they look awesome!
I don’t have the Thursday Diplomats, but I do own the President and Captain. Both great daily drivers, but I’m sure you will agree with me that there is a major step up in leather quality when comparing them to Grant Stone or Red Wing. I have two RW iron rangers and they are absolutely incredible.
I agree, there’s definitely a step up in leather quality for the Grant Stone and Red Wing. And they both have an amazing leather smell!
Not everyone can afford the Grant Stone Brass boot, so opted for the Thursday Diplomat. I like the bit slimmer look to the toe and reported arch support. I made the right decision. My boot is true to size and fits like a glove. Walking all day the first day was comfortable right out of the box, after break-in these will be even better. Great boot at a great price and Amazon makes returns a breeze.
Excellent! Had mine on all day yesterday. Great boots.
Dievier has great bang for the buck. I wear mine two to three days a week. I put in some additional arch support, but they are quite comfortable out of the box. The tread is grippy, and they, unlike the Diplomats, fit my EE foot.
Definitely my favorite for immediate comfort. Glad to hear they fit those EEs!
I do like the looks of Thursday Diplomat! 🔥
Same here. Super design!
When the RW moc breaks in, they are butter on your feet. Simply amazing. Nothing easy is worthwhile
They’re getting there and I love it.
Mine took a few months to breakin. I put some leather oil on the inside of the upper to help ease the stiffness. That all leather heal counter was the last to form to my feet. Not complaining though, I drove the Alcan from anchorage to oregon this summer. Only had room for two shoes. The RW and a pair of crocs. Hardly wore the crocs. Black harness leather just like the ones in your video.
@@brandonv4900 Nice! That says a lot for the Red Wings!
I love my brass boot in natural cxl but they need 3 sets of speed hooks. Also, if Grant Stone offered the Brass boots with a leather sole, I’d buy them in a heartbeat. Even better, an all Veg tan leather brass boot. 😊
Sounds amazing!
Awesome to see some Grant Stone and Dievier here!!
Both excellent brands!
Grant stones Leo last is hand down the best fit for me. I find thursdays too narrow and just started on a nice pair of devier nomads, they are very very comfy with a nice chunky shape as well. Great vid!
Thanks, John! I love how the Nomads don't need any breaking in. Super comfortable right away.
Yes. I have the Ottawa on the Leo last and they feel as comfortable as my sneakers.
Yeah, I got my fist pair of boots from Thursday Boot and I too had to send them back because I downsized one-half size as they recommended. No biggie! I found the Captains ran true to size - at least for me. I've been eyeing the Diplomat and just ordered a pair since I need more of a casual, vice functional, work boot.
I've been pretty happy with my diplomats.. They're super easy to pair with anything casual.
I just bought 2 pair of Dievier Prospects. They're so comfortable. I've never had a comfortable pair of red wings. I don't mess with red wings anymore😤
The Dievier boots I own didn’t seem to need any break-in. Super comfortable.
Nomad. First time I’ve heard of them. Look cool
I was pretty impressed with them.
@@StrayReviews I’m going to order a pair. I like the founder’s story.
The thursday boots looks best on you and in general!
I do find myself reaching for them a lot because they go with so much.
sir, those green boots are 🔥
cheers from 🇵🇭
Cheers!
My favourite out of the 4 will be the redwing not that I’m bias.
I have the 8849 and 875,8849 is a lot easier to break in compared to 875.
Those 875s must be torture! 😬
Just picked up an Allen Edmonds moc toe in Teak green.
Nice. I’ll have to check those out.
Grantstone has some good sales. I put some money aside to save up for a pair and when I had the amount the pair was on sale for $280. Thursday has that dark olive green that I haven't seen in other companies, just I didn't see their diplomat in that colour. Classic 877 and sawmill Redwing have that slim moc toe, I don't like the clown shapes of the other moc toes. To make my collection complete I just looking towards Russel moccasins.
I’ve heard great things about the Russells.
Everyone sub to your boy, Lee! Let's get him to 1000 on this video!! Great video, by the way. Probably my fav you've done. I think I need a GS Brass Boot in my life soon, and as soon as Dievier offers those with white soles, I'm in! Just can't get behind the black soles for some reason.
Thanks, Patrick! So close! The Brass Boot is straight up luxurious!
Good review, appreciate the efforts. I have some GS Diesel boots in the crimson chrome excel and love them, can’t wait for them to completely break in. I was thinking of getting the Brass boot in the Charles F Stead leather and it is running only $328. Just wondering if you have any diesels and can comment on sizing between the two since they are different GS lasts? Especially width, I bought an E in the Diesels and it’s just right I think, I have enough miles on them that don’t think they’ll stretch too much , but was thinking about getting a D in the Brass boot.
Great question. In my experience, the Brass Boots are roomier compared to the Diesels.
@@StrayReviewsThanks for the quick response. Appreciate your help.
@@BobBafaro-ee9ck Sure thing!
W.C. RUSSELL'S MOC TOE MOCCASIN BOOT COMPANY. American made extremely comfortable and last forever.
Nice! Just saw they're in Berlin, Wisconsin. Not far from where I grew up.
NICK'S are my favorite thanks.
Nice! I hope to review a pair of Nick’s sometime.
Nicks are expensive but if you wait for the sale and know your size you can sometimes get a factory second boot for a couple hundred off...I got one pair for 415$ out the door...and they are absolutely worth the 100 bucks extra over the grant stone...
But they are not light or comfortable, more for all day support which I seldom need but don't complain when I need it...
Hi Lee. Nice review. I actually have Dievier and Red Wing. I'm Brannock 10D, and I remembered you were as well. What size of Dievier and Red Wing you ended up choosing?. Thanks man.
Hi Rodrigo! I went with a 10 for both of those.
Grant Stone for sure. The best looking and arguably the best quality.
They really make an easy choice.
I’m one of the owner of that Thursday Diplomat and i really love it. The only one I don’t like about it is the the tongue is not gusseted. My 40 dollar Dr. Martens is at least gusseted.
A gusseted tongue would definitely be an upgrade. It's still an outstanding boot.
@@StrayReviews i agreed with you. It is an outstanding boot. I have a klik klik klik sound problem on my 1st pair of diplomat after a few week of wearing it everyday. I suspect the shank is the culprit.
Those Thursdays have me second guessing the Red Wings not gonna lie. For the price they look like an amazing value, and are sleek yet still rugged. I'm curious how the poron insole will break down over time compared to the leather insole
I think leather is always going to win out. However, I have a 7-year-old pair of presidents and they're still holding up fine.
I have found all the Red Wing Heritage boots to fit in a 1/2 size down.
My Iron Rangers are a half size down, but these I went for my normal size.
@@StrayReviews I have weird feet. Am a 12D on the left and closer to an 11.5D on the right. Seems most good boots in an 11.5 seem to fit best.
Red Wing Moc toes can be tough to break-in but if you go with true Brannock size they will probably be too loose after they do break in. I wear an 11 in most non-boots, 10 1/2 Brannock. I took a 10D in both the Iron Ranger and Moc Toe. They were tight in the width at first but have been getting more comfortable with every wear.
Just purchased some Red Wing 1907 yesterday. Easy and great purchase. It is best to go into a store and get fitted. I got an EE size for me
Do they come in 38Eu men? Esepcially, red wing and thursday boots. I have small feet. IF not, are men red wing or thursday boots similar to female boots?
Those really are small feet! Here's a conversion chart that might help www.shoesizingcharts.com/
I recently purchased a pair of Red Wing Heritage Moc Toe in Alpine Green and had to go 1/2 size down from my normal size. You did mention that the Red Wing’s are true to size..
That was true for me. I hope they work out well for you!
@@StrayReviews Thank you. They’re really nice and the color is similar to the first pair of boots in your review but with a gloss. Break in period was classic Red Wing.. Band Aids..blisters and pain. Have a great holiday and thanks for the review.
RW all the way! subscribing//all the best troutbumandsam
Thanks so much! I know I'm going to love the RW once it's broken in a bit more.
My thursday diplomats ran a half size small
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why are you changing between the normal and mirror image?
Keen observation! Research says that people get bored if the image doesn't change every few seconds. Since I don't have a second camera to help with that, I just flip the image.
Danner has a nice moc toe boot
Indeed they do. 👍
Need to do a reviews on PNW boots
I really hope to do that. Taking some time to get there since they’re so expensive.
Red Wing. Made in America. I have the black moc. Tremendous boot.
Nice choice! Mine have really grown on me
@@StrayReviews I was torn on getting the portage green but think the black with white sole makes for a strong looking boot. I’m sure the green would have been cool too but glad I went with the black prairie
@@Lion-qi8ej Yep, just had mine out for a little boot oil today. The contrasting black and white looks great.
@@StrayReviews what’s your opinion on a faster breakin? I’ve done the double sock but wondering if adding some of the Red Wing Boot oil or conditioner would soften them up more. I have the oil and the white cream but not the tin of conditioner. Thanks @strayReviews!
@@Lion-qi8ej I think some conditioning is just fine. I used the Red Wing boot oil on mine. I can't say that it really sped up the process though. My best results came from wearing thick socks so the collar rubbing against my leg didn't bother me so much.
Are danners boots any good?
I’ve only ever owned two pairs of Danners. I’ve been pretty pleased with them once I got the sizing right.
Ive literally watched 5 different channels in the last 35 minutes or so and i haven't seen not 1 person say a word about liberty boot company out of Grand Rapids Michigan! There boots are up there with Danner and Thorogood and they're way better then Redwings! And they are made in the USA!!!
This is the first I've heard of them. Their moc toe boots look pretty cool.
Grant Stone has top notch leather and build but they’re a little pricey compared to Thursday. Redwings take too long to break in for my taste. I like Thursday boots the best overall because they’re not too expensive and are comfy right out of the box. That being said, GS boots has a large variety of boots that appeal to me the most…
I agree. Grant Stone is great, but they do have a high price tag.
@@StrayReviews GS use USA leather from Horween ChromeXL lather and all the other parts are US they are just crafted in China
I don’t have the patience or the tolerance for discomfort to break in red wings anymore compared to when I was young, also the fit is just too difficult to get right. Even my moc toes that are broken i don’t find comfortable anymore. After 20 years I’m starting to move on from red wing….
There are loads of great options besides Red Wing. The best boots are the ones you'll wear.
For $300 those wings should be lined! A they look they would kill my feet during break in!
They were a tough break-in but they’re pretty comfortable now.
$400 for China Town? ... THAT'S CRAZY TALK!!
Isn't rancourt the only real moctoe boot maker in america?
I believe Rusell is the last true moc toe made in America (where the upper's leather wraps around the bottom.) But there are other made in the U.S. moc toes where the stitching at the toe connects two pieces of leather (like Red Wing).
White's perry's ...the best moc toe boots 1000%
Excellent boot! I hope to get my hands on a pair someday and review them.
The Perry "Select" is the better version, but more costly.@@StrayReviews
My Dievier boots had quality control issues and I found the leather to be thin. A lot thinner than a Red Wing and that’s why they didn’t need breaking in. Thursdays are more comfortable, but that pouron insole will wear down and it’s not replaceable. Grant Stone and Red Wing have better leather and will last longer. I also hate how Dievier and Thursday pander to the boot TH-camrs. Thursdays are fine, but I can’t stand influencers telling me that they’re a better quality than a Red Wing, Grant Stone or any other PNW boot brand. Total lie.
For sure Grant Stone and Red Wing win out.
Thorogood is actually the best selling moc toe.
I realy hope to review those sometime.
From a construction and durability standpoint I prefer the RW.
Thorogoods leather tumbling process and construction makes them more comfortable, especially straight out of the box.
Carolina AMP USA basically managed to combine the drawbacks of both for a little less money than either. I've heard mixed reviews on their recent product.
Those were generally the boots of choice in my former trade.
I wore RW Steel Toes at work and Thorogood Soft Toes kicking around the farm. Completely happy with both for that application.
thursday day boots made in Mexico
For sure.
It was a nice video however, your sizing advice on the Brass boot is a little suspect. I wear a size 10D in On Cloud sneakers and Underarmor sneakers. My first pair of Grant Stone boots were the Ottawa's and I bought them in a 9.5D and they were WAY too big. The width was perfect but the length was not. I had a ton of room in the front. I emailed GS and told them that my Thursday Captains were a 9.5D and I felt like these Ottawa's were too big and they were. They told me to try a size 9D and I did and they fit perfectly. That's an entire size down from sneaker size and my brannock was a 10.25D. The Brass boot has more room in the toes so I would recommend going a full size down because I have now purchased 3 pairs of GS, all on the Leo lasts all in the same size. The Flyod last is bigger and I have not purchased a Brass boot but I intend to sometime in the future. I now have the Crimson CXL Ottawa's, Dune Diesel's and Black CXL Diesel's with a leather sole and they are the best boots I have ever bought and I have 3 pairs of Thursday's that I bought late last year.
I also have a pair of Dune Deisels and they're amazing. I'm a Brannock 10 and took both of my Grant Stones in 9.5. I would say that they're roomy but not too big on me. But, I like my boots roomy and often wear thick wool socks in winter. I could see why some people would prefer to go a full size down.
On's and Under Armor are exceptionally narrow so it could be that you're naturally compensating for the discrepancy being that they are closer to a C width as apposed to the grant stones being closer to a E width and the Thurday's being closer to a D width, every width change up accounts for about a .5 size down in overall size as a general last rule.
That's consistent with my experience but with the brass boots. I got size 9.5D and they were too big. Now waiting for my 9D replacement to arrive and hopefully the fit will be right
I wear a 1/2 down in almost all quality boots. Truman boots are true to size for me. The Brass boot is too short going a full size down and at a 1/2 size down the length is a little long. I ended up just putting thinner inserts in them and they are fine. Would have been interesting to try an 11E instead of the 11.5D I bought. Am a true 12D.
@@williamswiger7547 I've never owned a pair of Trumans, but I've been eyeballing them for a long time.
thursday boots... who's who?? who dat??
i dont know why anyone would pay the highest price for a chinese boot? crazy!
I think mainly because the materials Grant Stone uses are excellent. It’s all American made leather, rubber, etc. It’s superior to the materials in the other three boots.
Can see you reading.
Good catch! I use a teleprompter because I'm afraid I'm going to forget something.
@@StrayReviews You underestimate yourself!
You forgot thorogood's
Iconic boot! One of these days I'm going to review a pair.
No he didn’t thorogood’s are 💩
"True to size" is a very tricky thing, people. For example, it's common knowledge that snickers have different sizes than dress shoes. And boots are no exception from this as well. Take my case: I wear 13 size in snickers, 12 size in dress shoes and boots' sizes run even smaller! So saying "true to size" is not a correct way to describe how well the boots fit. You need to know true to which size it is: sneakers, dress shoes, or boots you have.
To me, “true to size” means true to what I am on the Brannock device.
No China boots for me. Merica!
Merica! 👍🇺🇸
Ridiculous that so many moc toe boots only come with a white (sometimes black) wedge outer sole. Gross.
I didn't care much for them either, until I tried them on. I like the way they feel.
@@StrayReviews I understand they may feel good. And they are fine for a job site. But for casual wear, I'd prefer to have a different, more classic outsole.
White's Fulton.
They were $255 over Father's Day. Back up to $340 now. They come with the Vibram Honey though, not sure how you will feel about the color. I think they look awesome with the Brown Distress. If you order a set make sure you talk about sizing. PNW Boots can run pretty large (I'm an 11E standing on a Brannock and wear 9.5EE in a Frank's 1977 Last #4 Toe). Most need to downsize 0.5 - 1.0 sizes in a typical PNW Boot.
@@gk5891 Wow! That is a huge difference in size. I'll keep that in mind.
Wow - never heard of that model. @@gk5891
Light and Springy. Yuk!
😂
With all due respect, Rose Anvil has boot comparisons locked down. You do know that he literally cuts the boots in half. Then looks at the leather etc.
Rose Anvil is awesome! I was super honored when he commented on this video.
Its all overpriced now 10 times
I feel like Red Wing has gone up the most of the four of them.
I'm not willing to pay a premium for boots made in China.
I've heard that a lot from people.
Thumbs down for CHINA
That's a pretty popular opinion.
No China made boots for me at all.
I’ve been hearing that from several people.
$380 and made in china 🥲
GS use USA leather from Horween ChromeXL lather and all the other parts are US they are just crafted in China for cheaper labor cost
I hear there’s some strong feelings around that. I wonder how much they would cost if they were made in America.
I bought rough out leather shoes for $30.00usd 20years ago still going strong, soles are the only thing that needs changing Skechers was good before
I find the Jaimvada (Japan) boots available through Baker for $399.95 to be very similar in quality of materials and construction if you have issues with the source of origin.
The NWP bootmakers are making some nice budget boots in the $300 - 400 range. White's had a bunch of Moc Toes on sale over Father's Day in the $250-270 range and those are real step up from RW in my opinion. I almost bought a set of White's Fulton for $255 in Distressed Brown with Vibram Honeys but I stole a set of mismatched custon Frank's Ground Pounders (When your feet are 0.375 Size different 0.5 Size is no big deal) for a ridiculously low price (50% Off).
The same Russell boot that my Grandfather paid $20 for in the 1950's is $755. In some cases the USA builders have simply priced themselves out of the market. That is about triple the inflation.
The quality of leather GS uses is high quality though. I have some Beckket Simenons made in Columbia that are high quality as well.
Grant Stone made in china is a no for me I rather let them made the boot here in the USA and pay the extra cost