Heihachi : "my wife try to kill me, my son try to kill me, my grandson try to kill, and even a random guy who played this game trying to kill me. And they say i am the badguy here?"
If Heihachi wasn't a dick towards Jin, they both might be a happy family. Heihachi was the reason Jin filled with much hatred then Kaz came along a increase that hatred to the max that he started a goddamn ww3.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." All true in their cases except for maybe Kazuya.
@@SonySlasher2468 the point where we knew Kazuya had fallen so far he was literally just amused by how chaotic and evil the blood feud was, was when he found out his own mother hired Akuma to kill him to stop the devil gene. Previously this would have broken Kazuya's heart, but he's at a point where he's just like "ofc my mum sent an assasin to kill me.. how absurd!!"
@@fruitylerlups530 well it's the hachijo clan were ones corrupted the mishima bloodline. Now jun kazama is trying cleanse her family from the devil gene curse.
Tekken is basically someone trying to stop a greater evil but became one themselves: Kazumi tried to kill Heihachi because he'll be a ruthless dictator in the future - which made him snap that he became what he is. Heihachi tried to kill Kazuya because he potentially has the Devil Gene like his mother - which only aggravated Kazuya to turn more evil to fight him. Kazuya tried to kill Heihachi for what Heihachi did to his mother - only for him to be the Devil like her later on. Jin tried to kill Kazuya to get rid of the Devil Gene - only for him to wage war against all nations that ruined many lives.
Heihachi was always a Mafia/Yakazuya type leader. So he was never good. He went from bad, to worse. Jinpachi was possessed by evil spirit even before the whole Kazumi thing. The only good part of the family comes from the kazma part. The Mishima fighting style is basically karate made for killing. Sure he was getting a little softer before the death of his wife, but ending the zaibatsu (Mafia Organisation) was never on the agenda. Is why his wife ultimately decided to end him, as he would have ended up a dictator anyway.
@@carloscristero Jinpachi was alive and well during Kazuya's early childhood (T5 Kazuya ending) meaning he was imprisoned by Heihachi AFTER Kazumi tried to kill Heihachi when Kazuya was a year old. Heihachi may be very strict but looking at the events in order, it seems that Kazumi may have triggered the events she was trying so hard to prevent.
@@carloscristero Heihachi wasn’t always evil, he became what he is cuz of Kazumi, it’s safe to say he was just a strict and cold martial artist with a loving heart but Kazumi’s betrayal made him become everything she was trying to stop from her vision. That’s so Raven…
Well if he did kill Kazuya there, he'd just live with the regret. But i think as a father he is somehow relieved that his son lived but at peace in knowing that his son really is a devil
This story was shoehorned to make Heihachi look good but tragic character in his last ever tekken story appearance. I wont believe they thought of this from the beginning.
@@nike_toki7ify I agree. Heihachi was clearly meant to be a villain with few to none redeeming qualities or motives in the firsts installments of the series. His backstory (as well as Kazuya's) was retconned in the latest games to fit this new narrative.
An episode of Ranma used this as a joke pointing at how ridiculous it is. A priest possessed of an ogre tied up Ranma, and threw him into a deep pond to prove if he wasn't possessed of an ogre. If Ranma died, then he was innocent. If he lived, then he was possessed xD Amazing how Heihachi is trying to use this faulty logic as justification of his abuse towards Kazuya (and Jin).
@@emmanuelbongar7370 "12 years ago" you said? It was *Daisuke Gouri* who's passed away back in year 2010 ya, Emmanuel... RIP (Rest in Peace) 😇🕊️ to *both Daisuke Gouri and Unshou Ishizuka* yet...🙏
I'm actually amazed how few people even consider that Heihachi is lying here. Other than one saying it was a blatant retcon. I mean, it is, but it makes more sense for the Heihachi we've known in every game before 7 to leave a sappy, tragic story before he dies. I might be giving the story too much credit, but if he is lying, I like the idea that he convinces the world that he was the hero when he was the most inexcusable villain, even placed next to the goodamn devil.
Heihachi was trying to paint himself as a hero before he dies in his Final Showdown against his son, Kazuya. He believes that if he revealed the secrets of the tragedy of the Mishima to the world, he would probably convince the world to decide whether or not they wanted to exterminate the Devil Gene by executing witch hunts against Jin and Kazuya.
Heihachi thought that killing his family members with the devil gene could have saved the world but in reality i think he's the one who made Kazuya evil, if he showed the same love that Jun has done with Jin,maybe the Mishima family would be more different than now.
Um you do realise that Jin started World War 3? Sure he did it to summon Azazel, kill him and then get rid of the Devil Gene or at least kill himself. But not only did Jin survive this, his Devil Gene still remains and Azazel still survived in spirit forcing Zafina to seal him inside her. Not to mention all the irreversible damage he did and all innocent lives he took were all for nothing. In other words despite Jun's teachings Jin still committed evil for intentions which weren't even worth it in the end.
@@SonySlasher2468 And i think it's still Heihachi's fault,if he did not shot Jin in the head maybe Jin wouldn't had the chance to let the hate transform him into a devil
@@Felix-ic1fc True but you also have to understand Heihachi. I'm not saying he did the right thing. If anything it was stupid for Jin and Heihachi have the same goal: get rid of the Devil Gene. They could've and should've worked together to rid the world of the Devil Gene. However keep in mind that Heihachi was already traumatised from killing Kazumi and hesitated to kill Kazuya and only did it after little Kazuya wanted revenge for his mother. He couldn't trust anyone after this let alone another family member with the same Devil Gene that forced him to kill Kazumi and Kazuya (even though I think that was uncalled for). Despite that fact that Jin has the same goal as Heihachi.
@@jameswatson5807 Kazumi had a reason to awaken her Devil gene 4:01 But when Kazuya was a kid he was innocent, he wanted revenge later when Heihachi threw him off the cliff
It's not just the prophecy they feared it's the potential the mishima family bring to change the fate of people around them. Their blood line or their power origins can be trace all the way to raijin the thunder god. The hachijo felt terrified or trouble how a single family can be dominate, change or end the fate of global powers. So whether the prophecy is true or not, the mishima family is a demigods who can fight fate.
@@MrDibara It was the director that messed it up, the voice actor is okay and wanted to do it differently but made him do it like that. (He is also the stage announcer) Since they were Japanese maybe it didn't sound as bad to them but yeah. Weird choice.
All this because of Kazumi's clan to assassinate him, only to fall in love and happy life for a few years and then being reminded about the "Prophecy" that made her go against him. Somehow i feel like Kazumi was merely a pawn and a victim in this timeline
@@taylorbee4010 And hopefully Ryu from Street Fighter will finally kill Jin after Jin killed his father and the Hachijo family of course. Or else he'll have a child with Xiaoyu and the cycle of hate and revenge with the family will start anew.
@@ninjasolarteam I think that's only half true. I think Azazel was the first devil that roamed around earth then he had a child with someone who either is a member of the Hachijo clan or founder or the child itself became the first and founding member of the Hachijo clan. Either way Azazel was responsible for the Hachijo clan's foundation by conceiving the first devil/human hybrid child who would later become the first and founding member of the Hachijo clan. And over the years more members of that clan would move to Kyoto and have more offsprings. Don't ask me why that family would become assassins. Perhaps for the same reasons as Zafina's clan. Both groups originated from Egypt after all.
So Hachijo clan tried to kill Heihachi because he was a potential world-ending threat? Funny how their attempt not only failed but also made things MUCH WORSE. He was a pretty chill guy and these demonic jackasses just took a gigantic steaming dump on his whole life.
We can say that Hachijo Clan created him.. In the flashback it looked like a normal martial artist without evil intentions.. Also it took some years after Kazumi dead to Heihachi seal Jinpachi. Probably when he saw that his son changed tried to make something and ended sealed.
@@ilikespaghetti2170 Well then, is that sounds like a *century long-blood feud* between them right...🤔? Let's see when the "Tekken 8 👊" is coming out in the near-futures to come...
This is shown Heihachi is not bad guy at all.He did just like Jin in Tekken 6 to end Devil Gene.He cares family more than world domination and ultimate power.He wants ultimate power to destroy devil curse.If he is bad as Kazuya,he will declare war everyone immediately.But he is not like Kazuya because he is not fond of destruction.
Alright then.Why did he starve his father to death,at least Kazuya was unconscious when thrown off the cliff,Jinpachi was imprisoned suffering under a rock for presumably weeks,you have to be sick in the head to do this,granted seeying your turn into a devil in less than a second might do the trick,he also shoot Jin who trusted him like a father,he awakened Ogre who ended up killing many fighters and attacked Jin and Jun,he killed Michelle's father for the amulet because he wanted power,abused Kazuya who was rightfully angry before knocking him out leaving him with a giant scar.And finally I am going to use Haradas statement,he actually said that for the story he wanted to find an origin a way to make him evil,while I don't think he is evil it clearly shows Tekken 7 is the origin story to why Heihachi became an asshole and that's where Kazumi fits in.And yes he did in a way start the war,if he hadnt made Kazuya the way he became the war wouldn't have started,he caused Jins and Kazuyas devil genes to awaken.
I’m surprised he just didn’t even asked Kazuya not to be evil or whatever. But then again, Heihachi isn’t that Thule of father we’re he cares enough to think twice if what else he could do instead of throwing his son off a cliff. At least he was being honest and was willing to tell the story of the past of Kazumi’s Death and Kazuya getting the cliff (at least he wasn’t lying though and was telling everything that happened in full detail)
It’s always the same story with different people. “They have to die because they are a threat.” Well here’s a saying, “A threat is only a threat when given reason to become one.” When Kazumi attempted to kill Heihachi, that’s when he was given reason to become a threat to the world. When Heihachi tried to kill Kazuya, Kazuya became a threat to Heihachi. It’s a whole self-fulfilling prophecy.
@@ricardomarquez7730Definitely after Kazumi's betrayal as it was literally stated in the video that Mishima Zaibatsu was founded the same year as Kazumi's death, and Heihachi literally just straight up said that Kazumi's Betrayal was when everything went to hell.
Heihachi still can’t be considered good despite, his genuine love for Kazumi, it didn’t stop him betraying his father and taking over Mishima family business. He abused Kazuya a child before killing Kazumi and dropping him off a Cliff. While, he train and raised Jin after his mother’s disappearance it merely to use him to tame Ogre, for he soon disposes of his grandson and shoots him in the head. All He wants is to simply kill both his son and grandson so that he may take the Devil Gene for himself and rule the world with a true iron fist
3:58 He was good before this but at this moment, the Heihachi you’re talking about and she was trying to prevent was born. This broke him, the only time he cried or even a tear came out of him in the series, emphasizing how hard this was for him.
With Heihachi's true nature in Tekken 7 revealed,his alignment are change: T1:Neutral T2:Good T3:Neutral T4:Neutral(his action to resurrect Ogre is same like Jin in TK6 as create chaos to end Devil Gene.) T5:Neutral Good T6:Neutral Good T7:Neutral Good
@@kriss4882 Well, Jimpachi, before his imprisionment, did say he had to kill his own bloodline. If my father had tried to do that, I would have definitely made my father suffer before dying.
@@JabamiLain Where are you getting that Jinpachi wanted to kill Heihachi? That’s never mentioned in the game. Heihachi took the company from him, Jinpachi tried getting it back but he failed then Heihachi decided to starve the man to death by imprisoning him.
It's either (1) Heihachi was lying, at least partly; or (2) he really did love Kazumi that much to the point that him having no choice but to kill her changed him for the worse, which also led to Kazuya and Jin to this chain of hatred
Given that he also killed his own father for no other reason than "he was too nice to Kazuya", I'm willing to bet he's lying or manipulating the truth. He killed his wife, his father, his son and his grandson (and those of them who came back did because of unnatural reasons, not because he was going soft on them or anything). Heihachi has killed or triggered situations that end up with people being dead many times before for his own gain. There's nothing but his word to prove that he isn't a power-crazed abusive and charismatic old man. The fact that Reina exists means that either he somehow cultivated the devil gene that he supposedly wants to rid the world of or that he's completely making shit up and the devil gene is in his blood. Whatever the actual truth is, he's pulling a PR stunt for sure! xD
@@BigBadWolframio agreed. His a powerful warrior and can go toe to toe with anyone but he made choices that will essentially ruin lives. His first victims were his father, son and grand son but the root to the blame is kazumi and hachijo clan.
I don't know why but Heihachi reminds me Itachi and Danzo in many ways because even thow he sacrificed his family in order to save the world he truly was a villain by wanted to conquer it and using Jin and especially the Devil gene for his own purposes. Definitely one of the best written characters in animation history and it won't be the same if he doesn't appear in Tekken 8.( It's understandable but still...)
i want to feel bad for Heihachi but after what he did to Kaz...i really dunno what to think of him. if they do bring him back and is revealed to be alive in Tekken 8 then i suppose a redemption by death would be a nice way to go for him. he'll be with Kazumi and Jinpachi again leaving Jin, Jun and Kazuya to fix things and a new hope for the Mishima clan.
It was retconned. There was no Hachijo bloodline before in Tekken 1-2 and Kazuya's devil origins was from after Heihachi threw him off the cliff. He made a deal with the devil.
@@pappico No it wasn't? That's not what retcon means anyway. There was no Hachijo bloodline because they didn't ADD them yet. This is the canon, until proven otherwise
@@ArtFromHer It literally was retconned lmao. In Tekken 1-2 there was no gene flowing in Kazuya's blood from his mother, he made a deal with the devil that's why he survived. The devil gene only happened on Jin because he got it from his father.
Well played, Lee Diaz: If *Heihachi Mishima's doesn't killed Kazumi Mishima* in the first place, *every tragedies that happened with the Mishima family never be happened* yet... Or, if Kazumi Mishima's manages to assassinate Heihachi Mishima yet, the entire story of "Tekken 👊" series would be never happened as well...
#KazumiDidNothingWrong Also I'm happy Lars exist, the only good thing that literally came from heihachi. It's nice to have a normal and pure Mishima for once.
“I married Lars’ mother just to see whether our kid has the damn Devil gene that my no good bastard son and my no good bastard grandson have carried within them! If Lars is just like them, I won’t hesitate to murder that snot nosed punk and fortunately for him, he’s clean” -Heihachi Mishima I bet that Heihachi adopted Lee Chaolan because he has started to disown Kazuya for being an abomination and he wanted a child who’s not a freak or tainted by some unholy BS.
I love how Heihachi in Tekken 2 and 7 is shown in a positive light although hes usually seen as the Villain , he ultimately is the villain in many ways , the Hachijo clan foreseen the future , predicting that he would bring death and destruction to the table ! That is why Kazumi wanted to kill him in the first place although she was deep in love with him.
@@joshwinters1360 yes and no, the stuff with Kazuya and jin obviously wouldn't happen because neither of them would exist but Heihachi would still throw the world into chaos eventually when he discovers Ogre or even wages war on Kazumi's clan after finding out they're connection to devil gene.
@@ZER0O9 that's just a no there is no yes there. Ogre is different. I'm saying the prophecy if the clan don't send her it doesn't happen... They set the thing in motion
At this point, Heihachi has his father, Jinpachi, locked up underneath their estate. He was bringing Mishima Zaibatsu back to its war mongering ways, making weapons and selling them. This is why Kazumi thought that she had to continue the mission because Heihachi was fueling war from everywhere and had his own father imprisoned.
Man, Heihachi really is the biggest victim in this whole series. Being betrayed by the love of your life in such a brutal way like this one would leave anyone irrevocably damaged for the rest of their existence. And even if throwing his son off the cliff wasn't the best move, I totally understand why he did it. Hell, everyone does. His wife just turned into a friggn demon and tried to murder him. For all he knew, his own son had that same monster inside him, and he was right. It was only a matter of time before Kazuya would turn on him as well. Cliff or no Cliff. That tear he shed in his final fight with Kazuya...man.
I played the story multiple times and what I get from the story and Heihachi's unveiling his life story to the public as like his last will or something before his final fight with Kazuya. I had goosebumps when he said that he will be judged, not only by the world or god....but the player and the tekken community.
@@enterurnamehere27 Well, Is Heihachi Mishima's definitely *still gonna be evil* (even after Kazuya Mishima's threw him into the friggin' volcano 🌋 once and for all...) RIGHT 😳?
@@enterurnamehere27 having to trust on a devil gene to see the future? Nah i not buying that crap. For all we know heihachi was meant to destroy the devil gene or anyone possesed by it.
@@MichaelJohnson-ny6zs hmm? I don't think so. When he met and married with Kazumi, it was still Jinpachi's Dojo. If anything, most likely it was Kazumi's betrayal that trigger his all doings.
Heihachi is my favorite, i never once believed he was the bad guy back in teeken 4 when i was a kid cause my father told me he was the good guy in tekken, now, i still see it.
Kazumi is indirectly the main villian for the Tekken franchise. Heihachi is the victim. Heihachi is not a bad guy because of his actions he did because he was traumatized because of Kazumi
I have a feeling that the Hachijo clan will play a huge role in Tekken 8 and Ryu will be introduced as a guest character from Street Fighter where hopefully he'll kill Jin for good.
If to base on Tekken 8's new trailer Shaheen scene.. This scene from Tekken 7 somewhat tells us that this mysterious guy is none other than Shaheen himself.
Heihachi and Kazumi are both at fault between his greedy ambitions and her sudden betrayal by her Devil. I like the way how this feud of the Mishima family is explained
What if heihachi was being spiritually attacked by demons but they were his demons making him kill everyone he loves. Making him see his own blood as demons? What if his greed and need for power was influenced by the devil?
@@Juanhernandez-zx7kt when he killed Jin and Kazuya, they were quick deaths. But with Jimpachi, he felt the need to give him a slow and painful death. Why ? Well, Jimpachi did say, before his imprisionment, that he needed to finish his bloodline. So, I'm guessing he did try to kill Heihachi, and, as revenge, he not only imprisioned Jimpachi and made him suffer, but stole everything that belonged to his father.
That movie is not canon. However is pretty possible that Jin is capable to control the power of the gene since he was seen at the end of t7 with the marks appearing at his will.
You know, this origin for Heihachi works better than most people realize it. Do you remember back in "Tekken 1" ? He said he wanted his son to be strong in order to be worthy of heiring his empire. And when Kazuya proved to be strong and worthy, what, Heihachi all out of the sudden decided in "Tekken 2" "Nope ! I don't want a heir. This is my empire.". Also, regarding his father's death, when he killed Jin and Kazuya, it was quick, but for some reason, he felt the need to make his father's slow and painful. Well, Jimpachi, before his imprisionment, did say he had to kill his own bloodline. If my father had tried to do that, I would have definitely made my father suffer before dying. Do you see where I'm headed with this ?
This fill a few gasp in his relationship with Jin and Lars too because Heihachi treated Jin like a true son (not Mishima's style) and not recieved the Kazuya's treatment until his battle with Ogre when probably was already aware of the devil gene in him in fact Jin Saw him like a father until that and with Lars its implied he was conceived a few time after his battle with Kazuya/Devil in Tekken 2 to make sure the Devil gene wasnt from him
Jinpachi only said that because he found out about what heihachi did to kazumi and kazuya, kazumi is understandable but for a kid like kazuya? Yeah he's having none of that and that's perfectly understandable. And lets not forget heihachi wanted devil gene for himself just so he could rules the world
So this explains the devil gene, which the recent anime failed to clear up. Now it's clear they're 2 different stories. Then this one is more canon as it's from the very game itself.
Also i feel like heihachi kinda knew there was that chance he wouldn't come back fighting kazuya so he would try to explain what is kazuya or something. Tho wanting world domination is kinda well... Hard to cover in a way. Using the mishima zaibatsu to do that kind of thing then theres g corp n stuff. But different issues there lol.
"your clan is evil and must be destroyed!" ~Kazumi, groomed to kill Heihachi from youth >the Mishima Zaibatsu is still in Jinpachi's hands at this point in time where it's just doing it's job as a neutral megacorp (Zaibatsu =/= Yakuza) >Heihachi has no real temperament issues or destructive ambitions otherwise >a person whos lust for power and control was born from a place of betrayal at the most intimate of levels talk about a dumb bit of self-fulfilling prophecy. it's a hell of a retcon, but at least it actually provides Heihachi with real motivation? once again, Heihachi is the best told part of the kind-of-bad-overall Tekken Narrative. Kazumi's betrayal sets him down the path of seizing power and the Zaibatsu (invests in weapon development, etc.) from his father (this absolutely happened after Kazumi's attempt on his life), his abuse of Kazuya, who at this point he just sees as another potential monster who will be beset on killing him, and committing fully to a "might makes right" disposition. Tekken 1 and 2 he's facing the consequences of his actions when Kazuya throws him out and TRIPLES down on the violations and criminal activities of the Mishima Zaibatsu. Heihachi's almost just trying to clean up his mess, and chooses a particularly fiery way to do it. once Kazuya's out of the way he's back to ruling the Zaibatsu, committing odd acts of charity (raising Jin and basically sponsoring Xaioyu), establishing the Tekken Force and eventually investigating ways to use the devil gene from Jin and Ogre's monster blood to make immortal super soldiers (the Failed Devil-Human Integration Program), but as a revived Kazuya and Jin rise in power and escalate their conflict, Heihachi is basically left to recovery or cleanup duty from tekken 5 onwards, with his progeny going way further than he ever would have committed to. they even have his non-canon endings where he (and Kuma) attempt to eject Jin and Kazuya into space where they joke about finally disposing of them. it's complicated. he's not a good guy, and leans into shit that exasperates his worst traits and is obviously the cause of a majority of the conflict in the series but he's arguably not the worst of the bunch - for example, he wants to rule the world with the Zaibatsu, but still wants people in it to rule - Kazuya straight up tried to Freiza death-ball the planet in T8. Reina's a new point though. Since she's been confirmed as one of Heihachi's bastard children I'm going to hazard a guess that the Devil-Human Integration Program was restarted and she's the only successful subject from it, because good lord how do you explain *that* coming out of nowhere
I killed my wife because she was in the way of my grind. "I thought you said you killed her because she was a demon." Oh yeah, that too. But the grindset was the real motive.
You can tell Heihachi really isn't that bad. Though he is a dick. No denying that. But he really had no choice. He wanted the devil gene to die. But now he's gone. But deep down he did care for Jin in his own way. He passed the torch to Jin and now it's his turn to kill Kazuya but will it be enough for him to stop what he's doing to help people despite all he's done...well....on that front idk.
Kazumi descendance are the ones who have the Devil Gene. Heihachi is Human with Superhuman skills.. Jinpachi was posessed for one Evil Spirit. For this his appearance is different compared with Kazumi, Kazuya and Jin and does not look like a devil.
Heitachi didn't need any devil gene to beat the shyt out of anybody. lol He just whopped ass. His attacks looked slow but it is extremely difficult to penetrate his defense, and his counterattack is difficult to block or defense against.
It seems to be from a certain lineage The mishima seems to be able to be receptive to the devil gene But they only have supernatural abilities The mishima seems to be able to be compatible but the kazama clan repel the devil gene There has to be some backstory between The mishima,kazama and hajicho I think jun might appear in the future installments What is odd is that kazuya has the pure power of the devil gene And he can control it He had it under control in tekken 1-2 I mean mentally Physically he always had control over it Where as jin is like a beast when he transform Despite being a descendant of the kazams
Heihachi is still a mortal. His father Jinpachi bonded with the fiend during his underground imprisonment thanks to his hatred, rage and thirst for revenge against his son.
@@AnhNguyen-hn9vj I REALLY wanted Heihachi to win in Tekken 8's story mode and end the whole devil thing. He actually defeated Devil Kazuya ( for the second time after Tekken 2 ) but his old age and battle fatigue caught up to him and base Kazuya finished him off.
Obviously it all started with Azazel. He basically created the Hachijo clan by sleeping with a human woman who then gave birth to the first devil/human hybrid child and that child would become the first and founding member of Hachijo clan. Then his descendents would move to Kyoto and have more offsprings. I do not know why Hachijo clan would become assassins focused on ending anyone who would pose a threat to the world. But I have a feeling that Zafina's ancestors had something to do with that. They did seal away Azazel after all and he claimed that the humans burned the world to ashes before he was sealed and again after he was freed.
@@zero1324r Who knows or cares? Some Egyptian woman maybe? 🤷♀️ As for Kazumi it's clear that she is part of a very long and extended bloodline that has it's roots back in Egypt. Basically she is a demonic and japanese version of Zafina.
Now this makes entirely sense of Father's to husband's unexpected events of his own beloved bloodline ones of his wife Kazumi and only son Kazuya of he was trying to erase his sins of what he wished and hope that he could return to that time of why his own bloodline would be who he did not expected would be the persons differently than he already made family of yet it's already too late for him to get his own wife and child right now of they became. Yet it still doesn't makes sense why his wife was possessed by an evil spirit or have some kind of demon inside of her yet she Kazumi should have told Heihachi about it so it doesn't hurts him deeply of later on regrets in the future of he should have gotten it through of his life as why he has many sons like Lee Chaolan Lars Alexandersson and others as how are they even involved in this Tekken storyline differently from game story to some anime movies I already watched long ago to this new anime of Tekken Bloodline series
There are two things I wonder about in Heihachi's story about why he made the entire Mishima family cursed: First, the real reason why the entire Mishima family was assassinated by a long-standing assassin organization with demon blood, Kazumi, if based solely on prophecy, why did Jinpachi curse?He ran a famous and powerful corporation in his home country and around the world. This man once made mistakes,those things also seem to be known to the world and what he has contributed over the years to world peace certainly makes the Mishima family even more famous and respected.In the end, all he received in return was the betrayal of his unfilial son and the curse of becoming a devil by that family, Assassins, in the name of destroying threats to protect world peace, cursed a family devoted to world peace to turn into demons. Was the Hajochi family intentionally set up?Or are they just making one mistake after another? Second, is what Heihachi said ultimately mostly true? Up to now, the worst father in Tekken still makes people doubt his motives and defenses for his mistakes.Heihachi's relationship with his father is also a problem, the shock of being betrayed by Kazumi has corrupted him, but even so I don't think it's to the point of treating his good father badly. This may have been due to his controlling personality and selfish greed, which may have led to conflict between Heihachi and Jinpachi, this personality of his has not yet been revealed because he had a happy life with Kazumi for a short period of time, it was only after that fateful night that Heihachi revealed all his evil natures, two of which were cunning, trickery, and manipulation, all of which were passed on to Kazuya. Even the story he tells is for planning purposes from the media to create a positive image of the Mishima family while projecting a one-sided evil image on G Corporation
Heihachi's outfit in the flashbacks really should have been like the longsleeved one from Tekken 1 since he tore the sleeves off while climbing the cliff Kazuya in before Tekken 2 for continuity. Also, you a fan of Liquid Tension Experiment? Noticed the username.
I think this devil gene is like a reminder of Kazumi. You might think thats the reason or excuse that Heihachi tried to kill his wife father son and grandson. Not just bcs it was something evil but also left a trauma for Heihachi
Yes because don’t forget Heihachi still talks half truths and lies. Besides Lars warned him that should he try to commit crimes and do evil again he’d end him heck if it weren’t for Alisa he would have gone through with it. Finally, if Heihachi had not betrayed his own father and seized power he would not have forced Kazumi’s hand. Yoshimitsu once said to Heihachi “Those who tread the path of evil shall face judgement eventually.”
@@ricardomarquez4351 actually Jinpachi was imprisoned after Kazumi's attempt. You can see Kazuya's flashbacks in Tekken 5 where he practices with him as a child.
Really mmm weird then again the events weren’t exactly given in chronological order some say Heihachi imprisoned his father 1st then killed Kazumi others say the it was what you said I wonder which is true?
This is a bunch of Nonsense, In the T6 recaps the man literally tells Jin "Your power will be mine." Damn they made a mess of a very simple corrupting power & revenge story.
I’ll admit I was taken aback by this MAJOR retcon but it STILL makes sense. It seems as if Heihachi’s just been putting on this bravado “look how menacing and scheming I am!” All to try to bury his heartache he had losing someone he ACTUALLY gave his heart too. Dude seemed like he was gonna be a chill guy but Hachijo had to have their foreboding visions of destruction and inadvertently set off a chain of events that would lead to World War III in Tekken…whoops.
That paranoia blinded his heart. The sad part is he betray Jin because of he fears Jin being Kazuya son has the possibility to inherit his wife powers. He basically curse his entire bloodline by embrace his paranoid feelings
@@enterurnamehere27 Trying to justify Heihachi is like to say that Griffith from Berserk did nothing wrong while being serious at that statement. Heihachi is a big pos and that's it. I have yet to see someone justifying Heihachi imprisonment of Jinpachi. This guy was the only good Mishima.
@@enterurnamehere27 i read somewhere that jinpachi agreed with kazumi to kill heihachi. Maybe that's why he imprison his father but doesn't have the heart kill him. I blamed this solely on kazumi and her idiots clan.
Heihachi started it all Taking over the mishima zaibatsu by taking out jinpachi Then kazumi tried to kill heihachi This created a snowball effect Since she became basically evil She condemned her son too Kazuya will have hatre towards his father and not only that In tekken 2 heihachi throw kazuya in the volcano Jun believing that kazuya died She will flee with jin 15 years later Heihachi had the chance to redeem himself But He still didn't change He tries to kill his own grandson Just to get more power The story got modify obviously in the latest games But heihachi was using everyone Except kazumi when kazumi his Light in his life became darkness He had no more reason to keep that soft spot in his heart
Wait just a minute! How is it that you can kill somebody if they have the devil gene by breaking their neck but they survive if they got tossed off a cliff? 🤔 That makes no sense! 😝😂
@@mrwizzardknight the thing is kazuya has the devil gene and heihachi doesn't Despite have supernatural abilities And i think it has something to do with lineage Between the mishima,Kazama&Hajicho And kazuya stayed "dead" for 20 years It's normal he went insane/evil He had his dark side under control in tekken 2 He was with jun When heihachi came back and "killed" kazuya Jun flee with jin When kazuya woke up 20 years later He learns that jun is dead or atleast missing But the devil gene got more control on him Since it's his instinct that allowed him to survive
Heihachi : "my wife try to kill me, my son try to kill me, my grandson try to kill, and even a random guy who played this game trying to kill me. And they say i am the badguy here?"
Dude, his grandson at first on T3 just to kill mother's killer, The Ogre. After Jin defeated Ogre, Heihachi betrayed him with shooting him to dead
@@baruskatgaetherneut1547 can you blame him tho? Being betrayed by your wife can give you a major trust issues.
Just like in real life
Also it was pretty justified considering on what he does later
If Heihachi wasn't a dick towards Jin, they both might be a happy family. Heihachi was the reason Jin filled with much hatred then Kaz came along a increase that hatred to the max that he started a goddamn ww3.
@@amarolidris4324 jin's hatred for hie grandfather is understandable however his hatred for his father is odd
The last 3 generations of Mishimas have all had major moments of "good intentions, bad decisions"
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." All true in their cases except for maybe Kazuya.
@@SonySlasher2468 the point where we knew Kazuya had fallen so far he was literally just amused by how chaotic and evil the blood feud was, was when he found out his own mother hired Akuma to kill him to stop the devil gene. Previously this would have broken Kazuya's heart, but he's at a point where he's just like "ofc my mum sent an assasin to kill me.. how absurd!!"
@@fruitylerlups530 well it's the hachijo clan were ones corrupted the mishima bloodline. Now jun kazama is trying cleanse her family from the devil gene curse.
Kazuya had good intentions?
@@littlen8279 Maybe if he has some good people around him that can influence his actions.
Tekken is basically someone trying to stop a greater evil but became one themselves:
Kazumi tried to kill Heihachi because he'll be a ruthless dictator in the future - which made him snap that he became what he is.
Heihachi tried to kill Kazuya because he potentially has the Devil Gene like his mother - which only aggravated Kazuya to turn more evil to fight him.
Kazuya tried to kill Heihachi for what Heihachi did to his mother - only for him to be the Devil like her later on.
Jin tried to kill Kazuya to get rid of the Devil Gene - only for him to wage war against all nations that ruined many lives.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Oh yes indeed.😔
Heihachi was always a Mafia/Yakazuya type leader. So he was never good. He went from bad, to worse. Jinpachi was possessed by evil spirit even before the whole Kazumi thing. The only good part of the family comes from the kazma part. The Mishima fighting style is basically karate made for killing. Sure he was getting a little softer before the death of his wife, but ending the zaibatsu (Mafia Organisation) was never on the agenda. Is why his wife ultimately decided to end him, as he would have ended up a dictator anyway.
@@carloscristero Jinpachi was alive and well during Kazuya's early childhood (T5 Kazuya ending) meaning he was imprisoned by Heihachi AFTER Kazumi tried to kill Heihachi when Kazuya was a year old. Heihachi may be very strict but looking at the events in order, it seems that Kazumi may have triggered the events she was trying so hard to prevent.
@@carloscristero Heihachi wasn’t always evil, he became what he is cuz of Kazumi, it’s safe to say he was just a strict and cold martial artist with a loving heart but Kazumi’s betrayal made him become everything she was trying to stop from her vision.
That’s so Raven…
@@Artryom
What about Raven?! What does his ninja clan/organisation have to do with it?
"If the fall didn't kill him, I would be proven right, if it did kill him, I would just have killed my perfectly normal and human son"
Well if he did kill Kazuya there, he'd just live with the regret.
But i think as a father he is somehow relieved that his son lived but at peace in knowing that his son really is a devil
This story was shoehorned to make Heihachi look good but tragic character in his last ever tekken story appearance. I wont believe they thought of this from the beginning.
@@nike_toki7ify I agree. Heihachi was clearly meant to be a villain with few to none redeeming qualities or motives in the firsts installments of the series. His backstory (as well as Kazuya's) was retconned in the latest games to fit this new narrative.
An episode of Ranma used this as a joke pointing at how ridiculous it is. A priest possessed of an ogre tied up Ranma, and threw him into a deep pond to prove if he wasn't possessed of an ogre.
If Ranma died, then he was innocent. If he lived, then he was possessed xD
Amazing how Heihachi is trying to use this faulty logic as justification of his abuse towards Kazuya (and Jin).
I don't think Heihachi was ever good after throwing Kazuya off the cliff. He lost his humanity the moment he killed his wife.
Sad that Heihachi's voice actor died he was one of my favourite and he was the voice actor of Joseph Joestar in Jojo's bizzare adventure
And Mr. Satan in Dragon Ball Z
And Kizaru in One Piece
wait... he died?? since when ?☹️
@@jackytan2937 since 12 years ago
@@emmanuelbongar7370
"12 years ago" you said? It was *Daisuke Gouri* who's passed away back in year 2010 ya, Emmanuel...
RIP (Rest in Peace) 😇🕊️ to *both Daisuke Gouri and Unshou Ishizuka* yet...🙏
I'm actually amazed how few people even consider that Heihachi is lying here. Other than one saying it was a blatant retcon. I mean, it is, but it makes more sense for the Heihachi we've known in every game before 7 to leave a sappy, tragic story before he dies.
I might be giving the story too much credit, but if he is lying, I like the idea that he convinces the world that he was the hero when he was the most inexcusable villain, even placed next to the goodamn devil.
Heihachi was trying to paint himself as a hero before he dies in his Final Showdown against his son, Kazuya.
He believes that if he revealed the secrets of the tragedy of the Mishima to the world, he would probably convince the world to decide whether or not they wanted to exterminate the Devil Gene by executing witch hunts against Jin and Kazuya.
Heihachi Mishima
Heihachi thought that killing his family members with the devil gene could have saved the world
but in reality i think he's the one who made Kazuya evil, if he showed the same love that Jun has done with Jin,maybe the Mishima family would be more different than now.
Um you do realise that Jin started World War 3? Sure he did it to summon Azazel, kill him and then get rid of the Devil Gene or at least kill himself. But not only did Jin survive this, his Devil Gene still remains and Azazel still survived in spirit forcing Zafina to seal him inside her. Not to mention all the irreversible damage he did and all innocent lives he took were all for nothing. In other words despite Jun's teachings Jin still committed evil for intentions which weren't even worth it in the end.
@@SonySlasher2468 And i think it's still Heihachi's fault,if he did not shot Jin in the head maybe Jin wouldn't had the chance to let the hate transform him into a devil
@@Felix-ic1fc True but you also have to understand Heihachi. I'm not saying he did the right thing. If anything it was stupid for Jin and Heihachi have the same goal: get rid of the Devil Gene. They could've and should've worked together to rid the world of the Devil Gene. However keep in mind that Heihachi was already traumatised from killing Kazumi and hesitated to kill Kazuya and only did it after little Kazuya wanted revenge for his mother. He couldn't trust anyone after this let alone another family member with the same Devil Gene that forced him to kill Kazumi and Kazuya (even though I think that was uncalled for). Despite that fact that Jin has the same goal as Heihachi.
You cannot be serious Kazyua mother tried to kill him, and Kazyua has the devil gene, why would he lower his guard and show love.
@@jameswatson5807 Kazumi had a reason to awaken her Devil gene 4:01
But when Kazuya was a kid he was innocent, he wanted revenge later when Heihachi threw him off the cliff
In all irony, the hachijo clan started the prophecy they feared.
Usually works out like that, people will start the chain reaction of a prophecy they tried to prevent
@@angelmunoz34"one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid"
The destiny of life is death, you are just choosing how you die.
It's not just the prophecy they feared it's the potential the mishima family bring to change the fate of people around them. Their blood line or their power origins can be trace all the way to raijin the thunder god. The hachijo felt terrified or trouble how a single family can be dominate, change or end the fate of global powers. So whether the prophecy is true or not, the mishima family is a demigods who can fight fate.
@@ronaldlalisan5592and they made it far worse by giving them access to Devil Gene Powers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
His eyes latched onto mine, filling me with an unshakable fear.
*Says it like I'm so bored I could die on the spot.*
_For real, they dropped the ball with their casting for the journalist._ I'm sorry, but the VA was the epitome of unconvincing!
@@MrDibara Heck even *I* could’ve done a better job than this guy. And I don’t even HAVE any voice acting experience!
@@keijijohnson9754 Me neither and I'm still confident I could at least put up a more half decent portrayal of the journslist's range of emotions!
@@MrDibara It was the director that messed it up, the voice actor is okay and wanted to do it differently but made him do it like that. (He is also the stage announcer) Since they were Japanese maybe it didn't sound as bad to them but yeah. Weird choice.
Kazumi: Clearly you are evil
Also Kazumi: **Proceeds to talk and laugh evily**
Heihachi Mishima
All this because of Kazumi's clan to assassinate him, only to fall in love and happy life for a few years and then being reminded about the "Prophecy" that made her go against him.
Somehow i feel like Kazumi was merely a pawn and a victim in this timeline
It's probably going to be her family that's the villains next time
@@taylorbee4010 And hopefully Ryu from Street Fighter will finally kill Jin after Jin killed his father and the Hachijo family of course. Or else he'll have a child with Xiaoyu and the cycle of hate and revenge with the family will start anew.
they say that azazel created the hachijo and cursed them with the devil gene but i was wrong. they weren't
@@ninjasolarteam I think that's only half true. I think Azazel was the first devil that roamed around earth then he had a child with someone who either is a member of the Hachijo clan or founder or the child itself became the first and founding member of the Hachijo clan. Either way Azazel was responsible for the Hachijo clan's foundation by conceiving the first devil/human hybrid child who would later become the first and founding member of the Hachijo clan. And over the years more members of that clan would move to Kyoto and have more offsprings. Don't ask me why that family would become assassins. Perhaps for the same reasons as Zafina's clan. Both groups originated from Egypt after all.
@@SonySlasher2468 tekken 8 back to Egypt?
Heihachi must be the most charismatic man ever created to make people think throwing his son off a cliff was actually a good idea on any sense.
انا حرفيا اتوقع اي شيء من الناس هم دائما يجدون الاعذار لأبشع الجرائم اذا قام بها شخص صاحب كاريزما
911 Dispatch: "Have a domestic this disturbance at the Mishima resident"
Lei Wulong: "I'm from China"
So Hachijo clan tried to kill Heihachi because he was a potential world-ending threat?
Funny how their attempt not only failed but also made things MUCH WORSE.
He was a pretty chill guy and these demonic jackasses just took a gigantic steaming dump on his whole life.
We can say that Hachijo Clan created him..
In the flashback it looked like a normal martial artist without evil intentions.. Also it took some years after Kazumi dead to Heihachi seal Jinpachi. Probably when he saw that his son changed tried to make something and ended sealed.
probably Kazumi fell in love with him and though She could save the world having an Happy family
then She gets all demon like
If you think that a literal mafia/Yakuza like leader is a "chill guy" then you're fked up in the head
i remember hachijo clan is against the mishimas since the beginning
@@ilikespaghetti2170
Well then, is that sounds like a *century long-blood feud* between them right...🤔? Let's see when the "Tekken 8 👊" is coming out in the near-futures to come...
This is why he treats Lars better. He’s pure-blooded.
Lmao Exactly
😂
That Swedish chick he once banged must had been something else!😁
kazumi really tainted the his blood line.
Heihachi in story mode: "I am not the villain in this story, I do what I do, Because there is no choice."
Journalist: What about this girl called Reine?
Heihachi: We don’t talk about her.
LOL XD
This is shown Heihachi is not bad guy at all.He did just like Jin in Tekken 6 to end Devil Gene.He cares family more than world domination and ultimate power.He wants ultimate power to destroy devil curse.If he is bad as Kazuya,he will declare war everyone immediately.But he is not like Kazuya because he is not fond of destruction.
Honest Dix
Honest Dix
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Alright then.Why did he starve his father to death,at least Kazuya was unconscious when thrown off the cliff,Jinpachi was imprisoned suffering under a rock for presumably weeks,you have to be sick in the head to do this,granted seeying your turn into a devil in less than a second might do the trick,he also shoot Jin who trusted him like a father,he awakened Ogre who ended up killing many fighters and attacked Jin and Jun,he killed Michelle's father for the amulet because he wanted power,abused Kazuya who was rightfully angry before knocking him out leaving him with a giant scar.And finally I am going to use Haradas statement,he actually said that for the story he wanted to find an origin a way to make him evil,while I don't think he is evil it clearly shows Tekken 7 is the origin story to why Heihachi became an asshole and that's where Kazumi fits in.And yes he did in a way start the war,if he hadnt made Kazuya the way he became the war wouldn't have started,he caused Jins and Kazuyas devil genes to awaken.
I’m surprised he just didn’t even asked Kazuya not to be evil or whatever. But then again, Heihachi isn’t that Thule of father we’re he cares enough to think twice if what else he could do instead of throwing his son off a cliff. At least he was being honest and was willing to tell the story of the past of Kazumi’s Death and Kazuya getting the cliff (at least he wasn’t lying though and was telling everything that happened in full detail)
It’s always the same story with different people. “They have to die because they are a threat.” Well here’s a saying, “A threat is only a threat when given reason to become one.”
When Kazumi attempted to kill Heihachi, that’s when he was given reason to become a threat to the world. When Heihachi tried to kill Kazuya, Kazuya became a threat to Heihachi. It’s a whole self-fulfilling prophecy.
Wait... DUDE, DID YOU JUST CREATE YOUR OWN WORDS!? *THAT'S FANTASTIC!*
But didn’t Heihachi betray his father which gave Kazumi no choice but to stop and end him?
@@ricardomarquez7730 Zaibatsu company are failing in his management so Heihachi step up
@@protocetus499 Even so he still betrayed his own father and for what power and money?
@@ricardomarquez7730Definitely after Kazumi's betrayal as it was literally stated in the video that Mishima Zaibatsu was founded the same year as Kazumi's death, and Heihachi literally just straight up said that Kazumi's Betrayal was when everything went to hell.
Heihachi still can’t be considered good despite, his genuine love for Kazumi, it didn’t stop him betraying his father and taking over Mishima family business. He abused Kazuya a child before killing Kazumi and dropping him off a Cliff. While, he train and raised Jin after his mother’s disappearance it merely to use him to tame Ogre, for he soon disposes of his grandson and shoots him in the head.
All He wants is to simply kill both his son and grandson so that he may take the Devil Gene for himself and rule the world with a true iron fist
3:58
He was good before this but at this moment, the Heihachi you’re talking about and she was trying to prevent was born.
This broke him, the only time he cried or even a tear came out of him in the series, emphasizing how hard this was for him.
He threw Kazuya from the cliff after he killed Kazumi tho.
@@theodorossavvidis that’s what I said
and not only that, he was the one who released Ogre to the world, he is IRREDEMABLE. only redemption i will accept for him is redemption by death.
@@Artryom still doesn't justify what he did
With Heihachi's true nature in Tekken 7 revealed,his alignment are change:
T1:Neutral
T2:Good
T3:Neutral
T4:Neutral(his action to resurrect Ogre is same like Jin in TK6 as create chaos to end Devil Gene.)
T5:Neutral Good
T6:Neutral Good
T7:Neutral Good
Imprisoning ur dad to starvation was bad tho lol
@@kriss4882 Well, Jimpachi, before his imprisionment, did say he had to kill his own bloodline. If my father had tried to do that, I would have definitely made my father suffer before dying.
@@JabamiLain Making the man starve to death is the worst thing you could do.
@@HeliosThor64 and trying to kill your son isn't ? Granted, Heihachi was greedy, but he was just one more greedy CEO.
@@JabamiLain Where are you getting that Jinpachi wanted to kill Heihachi? That’s never mentioned in the game. Heihachi took the company from him, Jinpachi tried getting it back but he failed then Heihachi decided to starve the man to death by imprisoning him.
It's either (1) Heihachi was lying, at least partly; or (2) he really did love Kazumi that much to the point that him having no choice but to kill her changed him for the worse, which also led to Kazuya and Jin to this chain of hatred
Given that he also killed his own father for no other reason than "he was too nice to Kazuya", I'm willing to bet he's lying or manipulating the truth.
He killed his wife, his father, his son and his grandson (and those of them who came back did because of unnatural reasons, not because he was going soft on them or anything). Heihachi has killed or triggered situations that end up with people being dead many times before for his own gain. There's nothing but his word to prove that he isn't a power-crazed abusive and charismatic old man. The fact that Reina exists means that either he somehow cultivated the devil gene that he supposedly wants to rid the world of or that he's completely making shit up and the devil gene is in his blood. Whatever the actual truth is, he's pulling a PR stunt for sure! xD
@@BigBadWolframio agreed. His a powerful warrior and can go toe to toe with anyone but he made choices that will essentially ruin lives. His first victims were his father, son and grand son but the root to the blame is kazumi and hachijo clan.
I don't know why but Heihachi reminds me Itachi and Danzo in many ways because even thow he sacrificed his family in order to save the world he truly was a villain by wanted to conquer it and using Jin and especially the Devil gene for his own purposes.
Definitely one of the best written characters in animation history and it won't be the same if he doesn't appear in Tekken 8.( It's understandable but still...)
2:17 Always wanted this skin for Kazumi
Even in his 30s, he still looks like an old man. Lol.
Heihachi is The Thanos of the Tekken storyline
2:20 baby Kazuya wearing a black belt at birth.
Don’t question greatness.
i want to feel bad for Heihachi but after what he did to Kaz...i really dunno what to think of him. if they do bring him back and is revealed to be alive in Tekken 8 then i suppose a redemption by death would be a nice way to go for him. he'll be with Kazumi and Jinpachi again leaving Jin, Jun and Kazuya to fix things and a new hope for the Mishima clan.
Do really think that even with the devil remaining that those three can live happily ever after?
Sometimes it's nice to even have a little bit of Hope
Either jin will cleanse both the devil gene inside him and kazuya or they die together to end curse bloodline.
@@ronaldlalisan5592 your right about the 1st one
This proves that Heihachi was the good guy all along, he tried to end the cursed bloodline that carried on in the Mishima family.
I wasn't expecting you was here
It was retconned. There was no Hachijo bloodline before in Tekken 1-2 and Kazuya's devil origins was from after Heihachi threw him off the cliff. He made a deal with the devil.
at this point i think all of this is because Harada loves him and was Fed up with people asking for Kazuya in the story again
@@pappico No it wasn't? That's not what retcon means anyway. There was no Hachijo bloodline because they didn't ADD them yet. This is the canon, until proven otherwise
@@ArtFromHer It literally was retconned lmao. In Tekken 1-2 there was no gene flowing in Kazuya's blood from his mother, he made a deal with the devil that's why he survived. The devil gene only happened on Jin because he got it from his father.
Heiachi is the greatest evil in this series. He tries to end the franchise so early.
Well played, Lee Diaz: If *Heihachi Mishima's doesn't killed Kazumi Mishima* in the first place, *every tragedies that happened with the Mishima family never be happened* yet... Or, if Kazumi Mishima's manages to assassinate Heihachi Mishima yet, the entire story of "Tekken 👊" series would be never happened as well...
#KazumiDidNothingWrong
Also I'm happy Lars exist, the only good thing that literally came from heihachi. It's nice to have a normal and pure Mishima for once.
“I married Lars’ mother just to see whether our kid has the damn Devil gene that my no good bastard son and my no good bastard grandson have carried within them! If Lars is just like them, I won’t hesitate to murder that snot nosed punk and fortunately for him, he’s clean”
-Heihachi Mishima
I bet that Heihachi adopted Lee Chaolan because he has started to disown Kazuya for being an abomination and he wanted a child who’s not a freak or tainted by some unholy BS.
I love how Heihachi in Tekken 2 and 7 is shown in a positive light although hes usually seen as the Villain , he ultimately is the villain in many ways , the Hachijo clan foreseen the future , predicting that he would bring death and destruction to the table ! That is why Kazumi wanted to kill him in the first place although she was deep in love with him.
female ninjas are hardcore like that they will sleep with the enemy and, and wait till the time is right.
What really fucked up is would the prophecy happen if they didn't send her....
@@joshwinters1360 That is a big if.
@@joshwinters1360 yes and no, the stuff with Kazuya and jin obviously wouldn't happen because neither of them would exist but Heihachi would still throw the world into chaos eventually when he discovers Ogre or even wages war on Kazumi's clan after finding out they're connection to devil gene.
@@ZER0O9 that's just a no there is no yes there. Ogre is different. I'm saying the prophecy if the clan don't send her it doesn't happen... They set the thing in motion
At this point, Heihachi has his father, Jinpachi, locked up underneath their estate. He was bringing Mishima Zaibatsu back to its war mongering ways, making weapons and selling them. This is why Kazumi thought that she had to continue the mission because Heihachi was fueling war from everywhere and had his own father imprisoned.
Man, Heihachi really is the biggest victim in this whole series. Being betrayed by the love of your life in such a brutal way like this one would leave anyone irrevocably damaged for the rest of their existence. And even if throwing his son off the cliff wasn't the best move, I totally understand why he did it. Hell, everyone does. His wife just turned into a friggn demon and tried to murder him. For all he knew, his own son had that same monster inside him, and he was right. It was only a matter of time before Kazuya would turn on him as well. Cliff or no Cliff. That tear he shed in his final fight with Kazuya...man.
It's a shame Heihachi never told Kaz the truth
The only bad in him is that he kills his own father....
He absolotly wasn't, lol. He abused his only child and led him to be evil.
@@unknownbenefactor8029 Um, he also abused his five years old child.
I played the story multiple times and what I get from the story and Heihachi's unveiling his life story to the public as like his last will or something before his final fight with Kazuya.
I had goosebumps when he said that he will be judged, not only by the world or god....but the player and the tekken community.
hate makes hate - the basis of the Tekken story
I feel bad for Heihachi more then anything, mans was just wanting to live a somewhat normal life till Kasumi came in and brought the Devil Gene.
He's still gonna be evil lmao
@@enterurnamehere27 Well, Is Heihachi Mishima's definitely *still gonna be evil* (even after Kazuya Mishima's threw him into the friggin' volcano 🌋 once and for all...) RIGHT 😳?
@@enterurnamehere27 having to trust on a devil gene to see the future? Nah i not buying that crap. For all we know heihachi was meant to destroy the devil gene or anyone possesed by it.
Blood, he starved his own father to death underneath the family compound because he wanted to take the Zaibatsu for himself.
@@MichaelJohnson-ny6zs hmm? I don't think so. When he met and married with Kazumi, it was still Jinpachi's Dojo. If anything, most likely it was Kazumi's betrayal that trigger his all doings.
He actually gives an interview to someone about the series' retconning, in the game? lol
xD
What retconning? Kazumi was in Te2 long ago lmao
Lol, Kazumi tries to rush up behind heihachi to attack him and he grabs her by the throat and she’s like: h,heihachi what are you doing?
You don’t get the point. That’s the devil talking not Kazumi.
Journalist and the ancient warrior.
Crazy.
Never noticed he actually sheds a tear at 7:02
Let's not be blinded that this is only Heihachi's perspective. He's 100% not that good of a person lol
I just realized Heihachi is telling this story and he might be making her sound more evil and him less
How is baby Kazuya a black belt already 😂😂
Heihachi is my favorite, i never once believed he was the bad guy back in teeken 4 when i was a kid cause my father told me he was the good guy in tekken, now, i still see it.
I don't believe Heihachi is a bad guy either.
A newly born baby kazuya is in karare gi. That's one heck of a family
The Mishima feud is like something from the Jerry Springer show . 😂
Funny you mention that. GameTwo already a parody of Tekken in combination with the Jerry Springer Show.
Kazumi is indirectly the main villian for the Tekken franchise. Heihachi is the victim. Heihachi is not a bad guy because of his actions he did because he was traumatized because of Kazumi
Bro, I want whatever heihachi is having cause this man pulled a baddie
Heihachi Being Anti-hero From the Start
He Was the Unsung hero That Protect Balance
Rip heihachi
this blood feud came from an clan of assassins and just went from there
I have a feeling that the Hachijo clan will play a huge role in Tekken 8 and Ryu will be introduced as a guest character from Street Fighter where hopefully he'll kill Jin for good.
Heihachi dropping the tea
Tell me more about the Mishima family hairline...
If to base on Tekken 8's new trailer Shaheen scene.. This scene from Tekken 7 somewhat tells us that this mysterious guy is none other than Shaheen himself.
I don't like what they ended up doing with the devil gene, saying that Kasumi was behind it all.
This could mean that quite possibly BOTH Jin and Kazuya are going after Kasumi's family in the sequel.
@@Facade953 i hope ; just like projec x zon 2 where they tag alon for a while
But lars !? :(
Heihachi and Kazumi are both at fault between his greedy ambitions and her sudden betrayal by her Devil. I like the way how this feud of the Mishima family is explained
Heihachi wa s pretty much the good guy all along.....
Didn’t he imprisoned Jipanchi, starved him to death, and stole the company from him all before Kazumi turned evil.
Mishima and good guy don't come in the same statement
What if heihachi was being spiritually attacked by demons but they were his demons making him kill everyone he loves. Making him see his own blood as demons? What if his greed and need for power was influenced by the devil?
@@Juanhernandez-zx7kt when he killed Jin and Kazuya, they were quick deaths. But with Jimpachi, he felt the need to give him a slow and painful death. Why ? Well, Jimpachi did say, before his imprisionment, that he needed to finish his bloodline. So, I'm guessing he did try to kill Heihachi, and, as revenge, he not only imprisioned Jimpachi and made him suffer, but stole everything that belonged to his father.
@@jokesonyoumyguy5086 you will come to learn that everything in Tekken was influenced by Devil.
Kazuya, Ogre, Azazel... all was a quest for power
devil gene eh, but as shown in the animated movie Tekken: Blood Vengeance, Jin can control it
That movie is not canon. However is pretty possible that Jin is capable to control the power of the gene since he was seen at the end of t7 with the marks appearing at his will.
You know, this origin for Heihachi works better than most people realize it. Do you remember back in "Tekken 1" ? He said he wanted his son to be strong in order to be worthy of heiring his empire. And when Kazuya proved to be strong and worthy, what, Heihachi all out of the sudden decided in "Tekken 2" "Nope ! I don't want a heir. This is my empire.". Also, regarding his father's death, when he killed Jin and Kazuya, it was quick, but for some reason, he felt the need to make his father's slow and painful. Well, Jimpachi, before his imprisionment, did say he had to kill his own bloodline. If my father had tried to do that, I would have definitely made my father suffer before dying. Do you see where I'm headed with this ?
This fill a few gasp in his relationship with Jin and Lars too because Heihachi treated Jin like a true son (not Mishima's style) and not recieved the Kazuya's treatment until his battle with Ogre when probably was already aware of the devil gene in him in fact Jin Saw him like a father until that and with Lars its implied he was conceived a few time after his battle with Kazuya/Devil in Tekken 2 to make sure the Devil gene wasnt from him
tbh this Is kinda cool
Jinpachi only said that because he found out about what heihachi did to kazumi and kazuya, kazumi is understandable but for a kid like kazuya? Yeah he's having none of that and that's perfectly understandable. And lets not forget heihachi wanted devil gene for himself just so he could rules the world
I hope in Tekken 8, Kazuya would talk about how he met Jun and other backstories that needed to be explained like this.
lmao
Heihachi : how to raise my ideal wife but she turns out wants to kill me.
Jin's knew if He continue the bloodlines, the feud never end. So He choose with Hwoarang instead Xiaoyu or Nina.
What? Did Jin and Hwoarang become a gay couple?
@@Facade953 no, it's just shippers being gross as usual. Don't mind them.
@@charlieflight6124 Whew! Thank goodness for that!😅
@@Facade953 👍
In Tekken 2 Heihachi was the one standing between Kazuya's world domination goals n world Peace
So this explains the devil gene, which the recent anime failed to clear up. Now it's clear they're 2 different stories. Then this one is more canon as it's from the very game itself.
Heihachi is not a simp even to his own wife XD
I guess what they said were right this family is the literal definition of triggered.
Would be neat if there's a twist to that fateful night in future tekken games.
That’s my pops.
Kazumi looks so lovely in her gi.
Also i feel like heihachi kinda knew there was that chance he wouldn't come back fighting kazuya so he would try to explain what is kazuya or something. Tho wanting world domination is kinda well... Hard to cover in a way. Using the mishima zaibatsu to do that kind of thing then theres g corp n stuff. But different issues there lol.
"your clan is evil and must be destroyed!"
~Kazumi, groomed to kill Heihachi from youth
>the Mishima Zaibatsu is still in Jinpachi's hands at this point in time where it's just doing it's job as a neutral megacorp (Zaibatsu =/= Yakuza)
>Heihachi has no real temperament issues or destructive ambitions otherwise
>a person whos lust for power and control was born from a place of betrayal at the most intimate of levels
talk about a dumb bit of self-fulfilling prophecy. it's a hell of a retcon, but at least it actually provides Heihachi with real motivation? once again, Heihachi is the best told part of the kind-of-bad-overall Tekken Narrative.
Kazumi's betrayal sets him down the path of seizing power and the Zaibatsu (invests in weapon development, etc.) from his father (this absolutely happened after Kazumi's attempt on his life), his abuse of Kazuya, who at this point he just sees as another potential monster who will be beset on killing him, and committing fully to a "might makes right" disposition.
Tekken 1 and 2 he's facing the consequences of his actions when Kazuya throws him out and TRIPLES down on the violations and criminal activities of the Mishima Zaibatsu. Heihachi's almost just trying to clean up his mess, and chooses a particularly fiery way to do it.
once Kazuya's out of the way he's back to ruling the Zaibatsu, committing odd acts of charity (raising Jin and basically sponsoring Xaioyu), establishing the Tekken Force and eventually investigating ways to use the devil gene from Jin and Ogre's monster blood to make immortal super soldiers (the Failed Devil-Human Integration Program), but as a revived Kazuya and Jin rise in power and escalate their conflict, Heihachi is basically left to recovery or cleanup duty from tekken 5 onwards, with his progeny going way further than he ever would have committed to. they even have his non-canon endings where he (and Kuma) attempt to eject Jin and Kazuya into space where they joke about finally disposing of them.
it's complicated. he's not a good guy, and leans into shit that exasperates his worst traits and is obviously the cause of a majority of the conflict in the series but he's arguably not the worst of the bunch - for example, he wants to rule the world with the Zaibatsu, but still wants people in it to rule - Kazuya straight up tried to Freiza death-ball the planet in T8.
Reina's a new point though. Since she's been confirmed as one of Heihachi's bastard children I'm going to hazard a guess that the Devil-Human Integration Program was restarted and she's the only successful subject from it, because good lord how do you explain *that* coming out of nowhere
I killed my wife because she was in the way of my grind.
"I thought you said you killed her because she was a demon."
Oh yeah, that too. But the grindset was the real motive.
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I misread the title as Heihaci reveals the truth about Christmas lmfao
You can tell Heihachi really isn't that bad. Though he is a dick. No denying that. But he really had no choice. He wanted the devil gene to die. But now he's gone. But deep down he did care for Jin in his own way. He passed the torch to Jin and now it's his turn to kill Kazuya but will it be enough for him to stop what he's doing to help people despite all he's done...well....on that front idk.
I feel like heihachi is the only one who bonded with the devil gene perfectly that's why he has superhuman abilities
Kazumi descendance are the ones who have the Devil Gene. Heihachi is Human with Superhuman skills..
Jinpachi was posessed for one Evil Spirit. For this his appearance is different compared with Kazumi, Kazuya and Jin and does not look like a devil.
Heitachi didn't need any devil gene to beat the shyt out of anybody. lol He just whopped ass. His attacks looked slow but it is extremely difficult to penetrate his defense, and his counterattack is difficult to block or defense against.
It seems to be from a certain lineage
The mishima seems to be able to be receptive to the devil gene
But they only have supernatural abilities
The mishima seems to be able to be compatible but the kazama clan repel the devil gene
There has to be some backstory between
The mishima,kazama and hajicho
I think jun might appear in the future installments
What is odd is that kazuya has the pure power of the devil gene
And he can control it
He had it under control in tekken 1-2
I mean mentally
Physically he always had control over it
Where as jin is like a beast when he transform
Despite being a descendant of the kazams
Heihachi is still a mortal. His father Jinpachi bonded with the fiend during his underground imprisonment thanks to his hatred, rage and thirst for revenge against his son.
@@AnhNguyen-hn9vj I REALLY wanted Heihachi to win in Tekken 8's story mode and end the whole devil thing. He actually defeated Devil Kazuya ( for the second time after Tekken 2 ) but his old age and battle fatigue caught up to him and base Kazuya finished him off.
They already had baby kazuya in a karate gi as in infant. That's brutal
Even if it's true but the question is how did kazumi end up with the devil gene in the first place.
Obviously it all started with Azazel. He basically created the Hachijo clan by sleeping with a human woman who then gave birth to the first devil/human hybrid child and that child would become the first and founding member of Hachijo clan. Then his descendents would move to Kyoto and have more offsprings. I do not know why Hachijo clan would become assassins focused on ending anyone who would pose a threat to the world. But I have a feeling that Zafina's ancestors had something to do with that. They did seal away Azazel after all and he claimed that the humans burned the world to ashes before he was sealed and again after he was freed.
OK but the question is who is the woman who gave kazumi the devil gene.
@@zero1324r Who knows or cares? Some Egyptian woman maybe? 🤷♀️ As for Kazumi it's clear that she is part of a very long and extended bloodline that has it's roots back in Egypt. Basically she is a demonic and japanese version of Zafina.
Now this makes entirely sense of Father's to husband's unexpected events of his own beloved bloodline ones of his wife Kazumi and only son Kazuya of he was trying to erase his sins of what he wished and hope that he could return to that time of why his own bloodline would be who he did not expected would be the persons differently than he already made family of yet it's already too late for him to get his own wife and child right now of they became. Yet it still doesn't makes sense why his wife was possessed by an evil spirit or have some kind of demon inside of her yet she Kazumi should have told Heihachi about it so it doesn't hurts him deeply of later on regrets in the future of he should have gotten it through of his life as why he has many sons like Lee Chaolan Lars Alexandersson and others as how are they even involved in this Tekken storyline differently from game story to some anime movies I already watched long ago to this new anime of Tekken Bloodline series
There are two things I wonder about in Heihachi's story about why he made the entire Mishima family cursed:
First, the real reason why the entire Mishima family was assassinated by a long-standing assassin organization with demon blood, Kazumi, if based solely on prophecy, why did Jinpachi curse?He ran a famous and powerful corporation in his home country and around the world. This man once made mistakes,those things also seem to be known to the world and what he has contributed over the years to world peace certainly makes the Mishima family even more famous and respected.In the end, all he received in return was the betrayal of his unfilial son and the curse of becoming a devil by that family, Assassins, in the name of destroying threats to protect world peace, cursed a family devoted to world peace to turn into demons. Was the Hajochi family intentionally set up?Or are they just making one mistake after another?
Second, is what Heihachi said ultimately mostly true? Up to now, the worst father in Tekken still makes people doubt his motives and defenses for his mistakes.Heihachi's relationship with his father is also a problem, the shock of being betrayed by Kazumi has corrupted him, but even so I don't think it's to the point of treating his good father badly. This may have been due to his controlling personality and selfish greed, which may have led to conflict between Heihachi and Jinpachi, this personality of his has not yet been revealed because he had a happy life with Kazumi for a short period of time, it was only after that fateful night that Heihachi revealed all his evil natures, two of which were cunning, trickery, and manipulation, all of which were passed on to Kazuya. Even the story he tells is for planning purposes from the media to create a positive image of the Mishima family while projecting a one-sided evil image on G Corporation
Does everybody on tekken universe looks like they could break sticks with their bare hands? Because that journalist looks strong
Reminds me of Gears of War. Everyone is super buff, even Marcus's father is this big buff scientist.
And everybody in the Tekken verse understands every language!
does Heihachi want to put a end to the Devil Gene for what it did to Kazumi and Kazuya?
Ye, cuz in his POV, it turned his long time wife absolutely wacko.
His father and grandson as well.
Heihachi's outfit in the flashbacks really should have been like the longsleeved one from Tekken 1 since he tore the sleeves off while climbing the cliff Kazuya in before Tekken 2 for continuity.
Also, you a fan of Liquid Tension Experiment? Noticed the username.
I think this devil gene is like a reminder of Kazumi. You might think thats the reason or excuse that Heihachi tried to kill his wife father son and grandson. Not just bcs it was something evil but also left a trauma for Heihachi
Guess when you watch this, can you now really blame him for throwing Kazuya off a cliff if he knew this would happen?
Yes because don’t forget Heihachi still talks half truths and lies. Besides Lars warned him that should he try to commit crimes and do evil again he’d end him heck if it weren’t for Alisa he would have gone through with it. Finally, if Heihachi had not betrayed his own father and seized power he would not have forced Kazumi’s hand. Yoshimitsu once said to Heihachi “Those who tread the path of evil shall face judgement eventually.”
@@ricardomarquez4351 actually Jinpachi was imprisoned after Kazumi's attempt. You can see Kazuya's flashbacks in Tekken 5 where he practices with him as a child.
Really mmm weird then again the events weren’t exactly given in chronological order some say Heihachi imprisoned his father 1st then killed Kazumi others say the it was what you said I wonder which is true?
This is a bunch of Nonsense, In the T6 recaps the man literally tells Jin "Your power will be mine."
Damn they made a mess of a very simple corrupting power & revenge story.
An unending circle of hatred, all around.
I’ll admit I was taken aback by this MAJOR retcon but it STILL makes sense.
It seems as if Heihachi’s just been putting on this bravado “look how menacing and scheming I am!” All to try to bury his heartache he had losing someone he ACTUALLY gave his heart too. Dude seemed like he was gonna be a chill guy but Hachijo had to have their foreboding visions of destruction and inadvertently set off a chain of events that would lead to World War III in Tekken…whoops.
Kazumi turned into zero two
The most painful Hehachi must deal with especially involve in love.
Don't know if he is bad or good but I sure want heihachi on tekken 8 without him would not be the same
Maybe he'll appear as a flashback character. Like Kazumi in Tekken 7.
More or less ; wanna see hi again in tekke 9
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That paranoia blinded his heart. The sad part is he betray Jin because of he fears Jin being Kazuya son has the possibility to inherit his wife powers. He basically curse his entire bloodline by embrace his paranoid feelings
Heihachi is not bad at all he didn’t have the guts to kill Jinpachi except he just imprison him
And starved his own father to death.so how tf that's not bad?
@@enterurnamehere27 Trying to justify Heihachi is like to say that Griffith from Berserk did nothing wrong while being serious at that statement. Heihachi is a big pos and that's it. I have yet to see someone justifying Heihachi imprisonment of Jinpachi. This guy was the only good Mishima.
@@enterurnamehere27 i read somewhere that jinpachi agreed with kazumi to kill heihachi. Maybe that's why he imprison his father but doesn't have the heart kill him. I blamed this solely on kazumi and her idiots clan.
wait. i thought that azazel was the source of the devil gene and cursed the hachijo clan for over millennium ago.
it was retconned
And before that. I thought Jinpachi was the source of the devil gene. And Heihachi was just annoyed because he didn't inherit it like Kazuya and Jin.
@@kennyleung9909 that's how it once was. The story got retconned because we have to feel sorry for old man Heihachi.
@@rabbidscool again !? 😐
Heihachi started it all
Taking over the mishima zaibatsu by taking out jinpachi
Then kazumi tried to kill heihachi
This created a snowball effect
Since she became basically evil
She condemned her son too
Kazuya will have hatre towards his father and not only that
In tekken 2 heihachi throw kazuya in the volcano
Jun believing that kazuya died
She will flee with jin
15 years later
Heihachi had the chance to redeem himself
But He still didn't change
He tries to kill his own grandson
Just to get more power
The story got modify obviously in the latest games
But heihachi was using everyone
Except kazumi when kazumi his Light in his life became darkness
He had no more reason to keep that soft spot in his heart
Actually Kazumi tried to kill Heihachi before he thought of taking over the Mishima Zaibatsu from his father.
which is right? in Tekken 4 in Xiaoyu ending Heihachi was already bald when he throw Kazuya. Now in Tekken 7 he is still not bald
Interview is going shockingly well how both can understand and communicate with one another despite not speaking the same language.
Heihachi kazuya and jin have their own story
For me, in the Tekken series, Jun Kazama should be the MC. She suddenly returned again in Tekken 8 to finish the story.
In Tekken 4 Heihachi wanted to make a devil and Human hybrid hahahahaha
Wait just a minute! How is it that you can kill somebody if they have the devil gene by breaking their neck but they survive if they got tossed off a cliff? 🤔 That makes no sense! 😝😂
Because genetics are only strengthened by birth like in DBZ how Gohan was able to pass all the other characters in the cell saga
Look at the person who's snapping the neck.
It's all Harada's bs fault. He has always hated Kazuya ever since the fans wanted him back after being killed off.
@Jose Gabinete I’m not surprised if they bring Heihachi back in Tekken 8 cuz he tossed Kazuya into an active volcano and he survived
@@mrwizzardknight the thing is kazuya has the devil gene and heihachi doesn't
Despite have supernatural abilities
And i think it has something to do with lineage
Between the mishima,Kazama&Hajicho
And kazuya stayed "dead" for 20 years
It's normal he went insane/evil
He had his dark side under control in tekken 2
He was with jun
When heihachi came back and "killed" kazuya
Jun flee with jin
When kazuya woke up 20 years later
He learns that jun is dead or atleast missing
But the devil gene got more control on him
Since it's his instinct that allowed him to survive