hey check out this video and backs up your claims it shows that 3% of unarmed shootings of black males in the white males unarmed are 3% - mix up of all police shootings so yeah it's not more like a voice thing it says all these new cops are Trigger Happy but that first guy who got shot at the store I seen the video it looks iffy on both sides you're right but that second one in the car those no screw that guy needs to go to jail that cop
I'm white and I've seen approach my car with their hand on their gun or they unclipped their holster as they walked up to my door. The worst is when one cop pulls you over and then he sits there for like 15 minutes and then three other cop cars pull up, surround you, and then all shine their spotlights on you. Thankfully I've never had my car searched (AKA torn to shreds because searching for drugs lets them legally destroy your car) or been asked to get out of my vehicle and patted down, but I have friends who have. It's shit like this that made me invest in a good dash cam. I think the cops have gotten away with this shit in the past and that they can't anymore thanks to technology.
I've never been pulled over by a cop before (knock on wood), but I have had white female friends who have, and have been met with this same approach; with the cop's hand on their gun immediately. Do I think that America has a police brutality problem? Yes; currently a mild, but growing one. Based on facts and statistics, though, do I think that these instances of "police brutality" are racially based? Nope. But, apparently, basing my opinions on facts/statistics makes me racist.
+spiderleenie Unfortunately there is a racist component to this whole thing. If you take race out of the equation what you would have is a legal gun owner killed for exercising his second amendment rights, because without race in the equation this would have been a give me liberty or give me death moment for gun owners. But unfortunately this guy was black, and conservatives are tripping all over themselves trying to defend the cop when they shouldn't. If you removed race from the equation this could have been any one of them, but they can't remove race from the equation. I'm just so disappointed people can't see this for what it really is. The government has too much power. It's agents can decide if you live or die simply for not complying with them. But the reaction to this video proves racism still exists.
+General Zod I don't think you understand - conservatives by definition are for LESS govt power. Nobody I know or have heard is defending the police in this situation. You're right that it is about government power, however.
I've had many experiences with cops being antagonistic, getting me and my passengers out of the car and trying to get any of us to do something that would justify violence. I've been assaulted by cops for being at the wing place at the wrong time. Some cops are bullies. Not all, but there are too many to claim there isn't a problem with vetting potential law enforcement officers.
I've had similar experiences myself. I've even had evidence planted on me. Dirty cops exist, but they're in the minority. There does need to be some reform within law enforcement, but when one of their own does do something illegal, there isn't some gigantic system wide conspiracy protecting them. My dirty cop for example. After 4 years of probation from that arrest, I got news that the officer who planted the evidence on me had been indicted. For what? Stealing, and using, drugs from the evidence locker. So, bad cops aren't invincible.
Lord Hephaestus my family has had to call the cops because my sisters boyfriend was stalking and make death threats against her and my family .. and the cops kept asking irrelevant questions regarding drugs and was us to empty our pockets and checked us for cuts or bruises , and called DCF to get a case open , but told us there was nothing they could do about my sister being stalked threatened and choked after kicking him out of her house .. Although they continued to ask incriminating questions and pretty much interrogate all of us include my children nieces and nephews ..
I know about 10 people from my criminal justice classes that have become cops, and about half of them have no business wearing a badge. I always give police the benefit of the doubt, and believe most are good people doing it for the right reasons, but it's disturbing how many unfit people become officers. The truth is fewer and fewer qualified people want to do the job because of the stress, danger, and typically low pay. As a result, departments don't vet applicants as well as they probably should because they have spots to fill.
Honestly because you are so objective and well spoken, it makes me consider anything you have to say regardless of whether I initially agree with it or not. You're an excellent speaker and very articulate. I love how you included personal examples and are considerate of individual situations. Just gah. Started following you and I really like everything that comes out of your mouth. 👍 keep up the good work!
Lack of accountability is to me the biggest issue in the police force. If they weren't so self protecting and would admit when one of their officers did something unlawful and unnecessary, this shit wouldn't really be happening to the extent that it is.
That's not always the case. Bad cops are often held accountable despite the media narrative to the contrary. Lack of accountability in some Black Communities is causing this too. Just look at how many Black people lied in the Michael Brown case to perpetuate a false narrative. BOTH SIDES need to get their crap together to fix this issue.
Wizard of Ass ..wrong..police in America are seen as a extention of white male supremacy, if they were fucking perfect..minorities, and sjw crew would still hate them.,and paint them as nazi enforcers
I think we need to raise cops pay that way we will have more reason to deny people who fail the psychology testing they can not be cops, and have better training for the cops as well to not have a trigger happy response to situations as much. I say this because there was a case years ago of this black female cop who went into a restaurant and shot up the place, even though on her psychology evaluation she failed, but they hired her anyway because police lacked staff. So I think if we raised pay we could get more better quality cops to go into the force and deny the shitty crazy ones. Cops make below poverty level wages, thus they will tend to get bottom of the barrel people because it a high risk job with shit pay. So I believe we should take some of the money from either the politicians salaries because they make 4 times more than normal people for a job they barely have done. Or take it from either the military or sports funding because they makes millions too and sports players get paid more than most people in this country just to catch a ball.
It's great to see people in the anti sjw community actually address this. There's a problematic idea that the cops should be defended to annoy the left.
I believe the Alton Sterling shooting was justified & that the Castile shooting was a big fuck up, HOWEVER, we must blame the officer/officers involved in the Castile case, & not the entirety of American law enforcement, because that's just incredibly unjustified. After all, lets not forget about the millions of other people that aren't shot when confronted by police. I'm all for accountability, but lets make sure we're holding the right people/person accountable.
Surely the sheer amount of unjustified shootings highlights a flaw in the whole system. It's not just towards black people or even people. Have you seen the amount of videos showing police brutality against animals? No use pointing fingers at certain officers. You have to look at the bigger picture and ask why these "fuck ups" are happening.
Olly van der Kort ...animals?...uh...sure... Anyway...like I said, the amount of people not being shot/killed by police is greater than the amount of people that are being shot/killed by police, and even then, a huge, gigantic percentage of those people shot/killed are situations and encounters where it's justified. I refuse to blame the entirety of American law enforcement, because at the end of the day, they're keeping me safe.
There are several studies showing a correlation between animal cruelty and interpersonal violence. Regardless, let's ignore that and continue with your point that a majority of people *not* being shot/killed indicates there is no problem with American law enforcement. Sure you're right, only an estimated 0.0003% of US population were killed by police in 2015. But that's still over 98% more than the percentage of the UK population shot by police (INQUEST). In 2014 American police killed 75% more people than the combined statistics of 9 European countries (Hirschfield 2015) So why are more Americans being killed than elsewhere? Is there more violence in America? In 2014 there were reportedly only 1.69% of violent crimes in America (BJS) compared to 2.07% in England and Wales (ONS). In other words 20% less violent crime. Interestingly the FBI website shows lower statistics, more comparable to countries such as Denmark (OSAC). My point remains that police are using excessive force. If we want to hold the right people accountable, let's look at the people setting the standards for policing in America. Hirschfield highlights that: Only 8 states require verbal warnings before shooting. Warning/legs shots are usually prohibited. Officers spend an average of 19 weeks of instruction depending on state. The majority of that time is learning how to use force rather than conflict de-escalation. Often less than 8 eight hours of crisis-intervention training. Comparatively, UK police recieve 42 weeks training and are qualified after 2 years. In places like Norway they attend an academy for 3 years. This is all without the added responsibilities of carrying guns. An armed police force should should equate to more training, not less. Need I say any more.
Now this is a very level headed discussion about profiling and police brutality, without all the usual yammering about white racism and "check your privilege" BS.
Good video man. But to add to what you said Whites, Latinos and other minority's suffer from it as well but those cases get little to no media coverage. This in turn creates the conception that police brutality is only happening to black people. So the mainstream media is to blame as well.
+Steven Rivers I think they're trained to have their hand on their holster, they can't know what kind of criminal could be in that car ready to jump them. And yeah, it's probably to show who's got the power sometimes.
Three police officers were just killed now, 2 others are in surgery and 5 others are in critical condition. You know, I get that 2 black men were killed. I don't know if the killing was justified or not. No reports have come about that. But still 2 black men were killed but does that justify opening fire on the police force?!! What is wrong with our people?! The more I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, the more the disappoint the rest of black people with these kind of violence. Lord have mercy. When will my fellow black people realize that revenge is not the answer?!
This is why police are over cautious! because they see how on an average day their brothers and sisters all over the country die in the line of duty....they are just watching out for themselves...everytime a cop walks up to my car when pulling me over they always have their hand on their gun...why? they don't know what's in the car...and they don't know what I'm thinking. Nowadays with the media painting a bad picture, everyone has this hate out towards cops....and the cops know this! they know that there are many that wish them harm....they are simply being too cautious and paranoid
is unfortunate that happens, but it will get worse before it gets better, people need to take things to Cort and try to change the system, going to the streets won't change anything rioting is not the answer and am sorry to say this but the African Americans aren't organized to do things the right way
The more that I have thought about the idea of requiring all police officers to wear a camera at all times when on the job the more that I think it would solve many of these problems. It is a massive invasion of privacy for them but they are public servants and are entrusted by the public with extraordinary power. Cameras would not only keep the assholes in line they would also provide a clear record of these events.
I don't remember which shooting it was, but apparently the cameras the cops were wearing in it "fell off" or "malfunctioned" or something. There will ALWAYS be a loophole.
That is quite true, however if it was universally required then the lack of camera footage would itself be a violation and add to suspicion of wrongdoing. Aside from shootings and the like it would also provide a record of profiling stops and their frequency as well.
Malevolent Auton Basically all I was saying is that it wouldn't necessarily solve the problem - I believe it actually IS required in a lot of states for cops to wear cameras, but shootings keep happening. (Don't quote me on that - I'm Canadian, I don't know everything about the USA.)
I'm 18 and will be going into my local police academy (Durham). But I'm going to be one of those cool cops who likes to have fun and make South Park references.
My thing is the argument I hear: "Oh, white people don't have to tell their kids to act right around the police." Bullshit. My dad was a biker for years, our first conversation about cops went like 1: Don't talk unless you have to, answer questions but don't talk too much. 2: Be respectful, these people have power over you so don't give them an excuse to use it. 3: You don't have to trust them but you do have to obey them, trust me. You don't want to get into a fight with a cop, you're going to lose. 4: Always make sure your hands are visible, DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY EXCUSE. And as to profiling, if you look in any way suspicious they automatically profile you. Besides their job it's just human nature to look for patterns and then act accordingly based off of them. My brother and I went through a Punk phase, in the deep south that makes you stand out a bit. We were followed the entire way through a mall by two black security guards, we didn't even stop by any stores. Just needed to use the bathroom. In a lot of situations cops assume the worst because it's safer that way. My brother and his friend were getting lectured by two cops when I walked up with my hands in my pockets. The cop who wasn't talking, looked at me, looked at my hands, and put his hand on his gun. I got pulled over at 1 a.m and my cars window was busted so I had to open the door. Instantly the cop had his hand on his gun and was starting to pull it until I showed him my license and that the other hand was empty. Some cops may be racist but the majority of them will not hesitate to shoot you regardless of race if they think their life is in danger, because like most humans if it's you or them it's going to be you if they can help it.
Man it is so unfortunate that you are absolutely right as far as why you have grown disinterested in law enforcement. Actually, we need more young individuals like you wearing badges though and fewer fucktards like the officer's involved in these latest two incidents. It saddens me greatly also to know that due to people's idiotic and irrational mentality, the actions of these badge wearing douche monsters will and now have cost the lives of other officers out there just trying to do a thankless job. God help us all!
+joseph colebaugh There's not a 'police brutality' problem. He's trying to cherry pick for instances where police have been at fault, when the majority of all these "police brutality" cases that BLM riots over and the media won't shut up about have been cops doing their jobs correctly, like the one who defended himself against Michael Brown and the kid who pointed a real-looking fake gun at cops and got shot. I haven't even read in detail about the two recent shootings he mentioned, but to say "police brutality" is a big problem based on a couple instances is ridiculous. What's a problem is the thousands of criminal scum and their sympathizers, thugs are shooting cops regularly and there's a disgusting problem of anti-police rhetoric right now. I though SBG was smarter.. Funny profile pic btw lol
In 2016, 136 blacks have been killed by police officers vs. 279 whites. When a minority is killed it is just sensationalized by the media to paint our country as a racist one. The amount of whites killed doubles blacks. Now, having said that I do believe that these officers in these situations made serious mistakes and were not experienced enough or qualified to be out on duty. Poor choices were made on the deceased partys behalf as well, namely resistance. The tragedy in all of this is that people dont see cops that made poor choices, and they only see they are white and it HAS to be racism. Just because there is an altercation between two races doesn't automatically make is a racist situation. Someone may just be an asshole regardless of their skin color.
King Joffrey unfortunately, there is a police brutality problem. But, truth be told, 9/10 of the time people have it coming. If you are breaking the law, you cant expect the police to treat you with respect. And nowadays, police get injured and killed on a daily basis. When police dying happens regularly, you cant expect the police to just give you a free pass. And thanks, it took me a long time to find such a fierce picture;) also yes, way more whites get shot by police, but with buzzfeed and other media outlets constantly promoting "whites are evil", it doesn't get the media coverage. Assholes come in every color...
I was born and raised in the ghetto. One night me and my girl had a fight so we went driving around to talk it out. We got to talking and she wanted to see where I grew up so we took a ride to the ghetto and I got pulled over for being white and being down there at 2am. I got harassed another time by the cops for being white and down there visiting friends. I have been yanked out the car at gun point and man handled for no reason especially when I was abiding by all the laws. The difference is the news did not pick the story up. But they at times even profile whites. But think about how many people are getting pulled over every minute and how few incidents are happening. There is good and bad in every race, sex and category of the work force. I don’t think all of those cops are racist. Sometimes they are just assholes that create situations by abusing their power. But once again the true enemy of the people which is the mainstream media makes it look like strictly a race thing. Could you imagine how many problems would go away if the news would just do news and not do shit and twist shit to divide Americans. I’m sorry but I agree with Trump and Malcolm X the media is the true enemy. They don’t help anything and only further divide us. It is so sick
FACTS my ass there is no possible way to justify the bullshit in these cases anyone whobhas ever handled a gun should know that you never escalate a situation no way to justify this
A Black Man who works at a group home got shot (he lived) because a shiny toy truck was OBVIOUSLY a gun. The Black Man got shot AFTER The Black Guy got on the ground with his hands in the air. BUT YEAH, LET'S WAIT FOR THE FUCKING FACTS. -_-
Police: need to see your ID Castile: *reaches for wallet and says* I have a gun Police: don't move *draws weapon* Castile: *moves hand from behind him to in front of him* Not saying justified, and this is the account from the girlfriend, reported by Vox, but I still can see the officer's point of view in the Minnesota case.
I've had a border officer put his hand on his gun and threaten to shoot me ("hand on the wheel or I'll fire"), when the only issue I had was the papers proving that my dog was mine. There are some messed up authority figures out there.
I had an officer pull my door open first thing when I accidently ran a light . didn't think anything of it though he was a black cop with a white officer with him . the stop took ten minutes . gotta show love for the channel ur doing it right .
I know its been a year since you put this up but I just wanted to let you know that when ANYONE gets pulled over 3 things will be done by the cop 1. they will put their finger print on some part of the car incase something happens 2. They will almost always have their hand on their gun it has nothing to do with you being black its for their safety its happened to me every time I get pulled over and I'm white. 3. 99% of the cops out there will treat you based on the way you treat them, unfortunately that 01% gives the 99% a bad name. I think you should have joined the academy we need more people who want to do the job for the sake of doing the job and not the power trip some get from it. Just a thought.
Who’s here in 2020 thinkin’ about the whole ass mess. He’s spot-on with the TRAINING of these officers being the problem. That, and they have to profile which sucks
Great video. I agree with everything you said bro. I am white and even i have been in bad situations when i did nothing wrong and it could have went horribly real quick. To a cop it matters not what color you are, anyone who challenges their authority is opening themselves up to possibly being hurt or even killed. It's not a white against black or black against white thing, its a blue against everyone else thing. I like what you said about if they are that scared then don't be a cop! Alot of them are scared of their own shadow and treat everyone and every situation as a threat.
Now, it's a shame that there are innocent people getting shot. But there are also people who are shot for good reason. But the worst part is that people in BLM can't see the difference. They compare an innocent guy getting shot to a guy who (and this actually happened) beat his wife, beat up the EMTs trying to help her, and a cop who tried to arrest him. After beating on this cop for a while, he was shot off of the cop by his partner after telling him to stop multiple times. The connection? Both of the men who were shot were black. This was enough for BLM. One innocent man and one guilty. Both grouped together by BLM.
You make a lot of good points here, especially regarding training. When I was active duty EOD I worked with local, county/parish, state, and federal LEOs across several states quite frequently (EOD responses, support for the USSS, or various training environments) and below the state level police departments are all over the map. A big area where this shows itself frequently is dealing with the mentally ill; cops just aren't trained how to handle that so they end up shooting a lot of people who they probably wouldn't have to if we'd given them some additional skills. Burlington, VT's police department (at least had) a psychologist who'd frequently respond either with the police or alone (with a radio) to incidents which seemed to be involving the mentally ill and it seems like they got a lot of positive results out of that experiment. Frankly, in much of the US, we're setting our police officers up for failure and we all suffer the consequences for that. Another somewhat related area I noticed issues (and I think you touched on) was recruiting and retention standards (and on the flip side of that, LOW PAY). A lot of departments are in a position where they have massive trouble finding mentally and physically qualified candidates (because the job FUCKING SUCKS) so they find themselves in a position where they have to take almost anybody they can get. Then, even if they go in mentally and physically fit, in five years when they're a fat, pissed off basketcase the department can't afford to get rid of them. We need to put police departments in a position where they can pay their officers enough to put up with the bullshit (and discourage corruption) and consequently be able to turn away people who can't hack it or fire officers who can't stay qualified for the job. We also need to look at how departments evaluate officers' job performance and cities sometimes view citations as a valid revenue stream; both can sometimes feed into unnecessarily 'predatory' behaviors on the part of police. Some other, more random comments: I see cops approach stopped cars (including mine both now when I look like a pissed off veteran and years ago when I looked like Jerry Cantrell or Jesus) with a hand on their weapon frequently; I think it's a TTP they're taught and I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it. The majority of cops I've worked with have good motivations but a lot of them turn into dicks because they've been dealing with the scum of the earth all day or maybe something like they've pulled a dead kid out of a car wreck recently and something about the circumstances of your stop reminds them of that accident. None of that necessarily excuses unprofessional behavior but it would help if the rest of us understood that it's an inherent part of the job and there's nothing that can really be done about it. You're right though; even if they're being a raging asshole and overly aggressive, if you give them nothing to feed off of everybody is going to walk away from the interaction. Know and assert your rights but always be polite and professional, even if the officer won't. Obligatory speculation on current events: Alton Sterling: Nominated himself for a Darwin Award. Based on current evidence, expect to see the officers cleared. Philandro Castile: Hopefully the officer was wearing a body camera and hopefully it makes sense of what the hell happened. Right now it looks like he seriously, seriously fucked up.
Honestly I'm white and I have never been pulled over without a cop having his hand on their gun! So I do believe it's training, but not only with cops I was taught if you get pulled over you roll down your window and cut off your vehicle!
I think a big problem is that many people will either take the cop's side automatically or the black person's side automatically. They see it as a political decision - if you're on the left, you take the side of the black person. If you're on the right you take the cop's side. But it seems to me that if I look at an individual situation, I have no horse in the race. I will wait until the evidence comes out and if it appears that the cop murdered someone, than call it what it is. If it turns out that the black person attacked the cop and tried to take his gun, then I don't have to side with this person simply because they're black and there's a history of racism. People who take one side no matter what are setting themselves up to be wrong a lot of the time. The most obvious example of this is the Mike Brown case - people saw it as a political issue - if you're on the left, you take the side of the person who's a minority. But that way of thinking led to the wrong conclusion. It turned out that the officer was entirely justified. It also made Fox news be right for once, ironically enough. People chant "we want justice." Well so do I. "Justice" means finding out the truth, not presuming someone to be guilty simply because they're a white cop.
illkhan Well I'm a white girl and cops have approached my vehicle with their hand on their gun during a traffic stop. My older brother, who's a cop, says he does it every time. Mostly because you're approaching a box on wheels and you can't see what's inside. We're living in a time when people hate cops and would shoot them just for wearing their uniform, so it's always better to be protected. Please read this and change your crooked viewpoint: bit.ly/29HRPEf
I've been profiled before I think. I had a fucked up hand me down car from my dad that he had hit a deer with. I was pulled over all the time because my car looked like it had been in an accident. New car, now I don't get pulled over.
I know from personal experience that it is not rare for a cop to use illegal drugs, take steroids habitually, or be involved with underage girls. Some of the biggest scumbags I've ever come across at parties and social gatherings like have been cops. The drunkest, loudest, most violent guy has been the cop way too many times. A friend of mine's dad was a cop and one day he came home, laid on the horn in his car, and when his kids all came outside to see their dad he blew his brains out in front of them. Power certainly attracts the mentally ill. There needs to be a new process put in place for vetting wannabe police officers, with much more extensive psychological testing and evaluation. This is coming from someone who has never even been pulled over before, so I have no reason to dislike the police.
I agree 100%!! These cops need to be vetted. It's not about the guns nor is it totally about racism. I don't think some of these cops have their screws tight and I don't mean that as an insult. I truly hope that the cops in these cases get some serious therapy. I really really do.
Also all of times, cops don't get the mental care they need in order to get past some of the experiences they've had. Many of them start out doing great but the job takes a tax on them and they can't handle it anymore.
Yes, thank you. Im black and I have seen cops roll over people of all races. It's far more important to everyone's safety that we give the power of law enforcement to the right people.
You're a man of integrity and a critical freethinker. I can confirm that when I was growing up, and even through the 1970s in NYC, and 2001 in Jersey City, cops were overwhelmingly decent. The cowardly and/or 'roidal ragers need to stay off the force.
White guy chiming in, i've had that same scenario where a cop walked up removing the safety on his holster and having his hand on his gun. I was already talking to another officer without a problem, I believe I did nothing to make anyone fear me and yeah it pissed me off but just like you I bit my tongue. Answered the questions I needed to and went on my way. Sometimes cops just do stupid shit but as long as you don't follow down that scenario of escalating back and forth you'll be fine.
Me too. And I'm whiter than snow. I also think that people (Not an excuse) don't have enough knowledge on the daily stress and anxiety some of our law officers go through in a career. I think regular evaluations of their mental well being and stability should be conducted at least on a yearly basis. Not everyone is used to getting physical or dealing with people with out of control emotions and physical altercations as well as witnessing death and human destruction like our Police Officers. People think they can just turn it off when they go home and turn it back on when they go to work. It's a mental problem that leads to bad things down the road. Law Enforcement and Correctional Officers lead the nation in Suicidal death for workers. There must be some connection there. I love your videos by the way "Some Black Guy" Keep them up!
HowardSupra all cops have there hands on the guns on traffic stops because "traffic stops are inherently dangerous" that's called "case law" read a book son
lionitist, maybe you missed the part where I was already engaging another officer that not only didn't do the same shit but was handling the stop without incident.
HowardSupra yes pumpkin, not all traffic stops are handled the same, there's something called "totality of circumstances" (pst that's called caselaw again) which dictates how each traffic stop is handled not every traffic stop is handled the same because (wait for the caselaw...) "traffic stops are here inherently dangerous" (damn it there's that case law again) when you get your foot out of your mouth let me know boy.
When you where talking about that cop walking up to your car with his hand on his gun ready to pull in case he had to defend himself i was kind of disappointed in your reaction, you already acknowledged racial profiling but are you really putting yourself in that police officers shoes to analyze why this is how he conducts himself in this situation, he goes to his job every day knowing at any point he could be in a deadly confrontation that's something that most people on the planet do not have to face in their day to day work lives, The problem i see in most of these incidents is the police officer should be trying to keep control of the situation without escalating it and that doesn't happen, i feel like this is a training issue...
Mr Maws that's because guns aren't legal in this country they need guns in America as guns are legal and you never know who is armed maybe they should be all made to carry tasers aswell tho as a first response. before using firearms. might save some lives that way
Why don´t circulate a petition to white people to show their stories with the police and to show that the problem is not racism but police brutality. then they can make a formal request to improve the standards in selection of candidates or training, love your show men.
Cops are trained to approach cars with hands on their guns. It's basic safety. Until they see your hands and all the occupants and know there's no threat, they are trained to assume there is a threat. Your video here is way off the mark, and I love all your other videos. Cops get killed constantly, and the reason they are killed most of the time is because of their own complacency. It's the guy who walks up to cars without the hand on the gun that gets killed. There is less police brutality now than ever, less corruption now than ever. There is no problem with police brutality. It's, if anything, a statistical anomaly. Cops must be aggressive in situations to make sure they get out alive. If people comply there usually is no issue. It's when people decide they will fight or disobey that 'brutality' occurs.
So Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend are a statistical anomaly huh. Listen bud I'm not a ACAB BLM crazy ok but saying there is less corruption and brutality is bullshit. Cops still enforce unjust laws about marijuana and unconstitutional gun laws. Police abuse the power no matter the race because the people who are police are assholes. All the good cops have either been fired, quit themselves, or have been put in jobs where they can't do shit so now all we have left are the asshole cops. What about when police just left citizens to fend for themselves in seattle in 2020. Yea remember CHAZ CHOP where people were getting raped and murdered and the cops didn't do shit all because the mayor basically said "fuck it let them have it". Listen I don't care about cops pulling my over and putting there hand on their gun that's fine I get it but saying "There is less police brutality now than ever, less corruption now than ever." is bullshit. But eh whatever well see if you still like the cops when they tell you to get on your knees and gun you down like a dog like they did Daniel Shaver get the fuck out of here.
@@MuzzleFlash-loves-ginger-ale Youre actually proving my point. The politics in this country are completely fucked, and it all comes from the left. enforcing gun laws? the left. telling police to stand down in Seattle and at every BLM riot? The left. The police unfortunately have to take orders from politicians, who are intent on pushing their agenda or lining their pockets. the police would have loved to destroy Chaz or put down the riots or disperse the mob in kenosha, but because politicians wouldn't allow them, a 17 year old took it on his own hands. almost every cop is a good cop. they are filmed everywhere they go and have body cameras, everything they say and do is recorded... and youre honestly gonna say they are more corrupt now than ever before? buddy you need a reality check.
@Some Black Guy, You should try asking your local law enforcement department if they can give you a simulation for "use of force" training. This might be very insightful, and some fun for you to video. I know they do it in Phoenix. Maybe some of the questions as to why some cops specifically do some actions might be answered. I am/was not a cop, but I was a grunt in the USMC and did two trips to Iraq some time ago. I understand, and agree, that law enforcement needs to work on their customer service skills. When I was in the Marines, there was a term called "Complacency Kills", which means when a marine got too comfortable he lost his situational awareness and would end up getting killed, or others killed. Cops deal with this a lot, and it is one thing to say that no one should be too afraid to work, I understand that, but they also have to deal with a complacency factor. When you have someone with you die, or someone try to kill you, it teaches you not to be complacent. This is NOT to say cops have an excuse to be a tyrant, because they don't. This is just what would be in their heads, to not be complacent. I work security at a college, of which I deal with police officers everyday, and even at that level I see some unconstitutional actions that may be seen as minor. I agree there needs to be reforms. Also, most cops everywhere don't have ongoing training. Outside of the academy it's on the job. It's on their not paid time for shooting practice, working out, and any other type of job training. On top of that, they they end up doing a lot of overtime because the departments don't want to hire too many due to budget restraints. When I was in the Marines deployed, there would be mock missions and ongoing training in everything from the culture and customs in the area, weapons training, what is going on in certain neighborhoods, etc. Most cops do twelve hour shifts, with no on-going training. They might get a small brief, but there's no sit down class or activities to make them a better cop. For example, I'm a huge dog advocate. I've seen, and get infuriated when cops enter a property and when a dog rushes up they shoot it. They could easily have their dog handlers teach them behaviors of dogs so they can serve their communities better, but they don't. They could have ongoing classes, and training, for dogs, human behavior, communication, and lots more but most city governments cut their funding when it comes to this type of stuff. I know the get too many militarized types of equipment, but my argument is a better place to spend money in order for cops to be better cops. I want them around because I don't want bloods, crips, ms-13, biker gangs, and any other type of group that acts as a government to impose force that "is not responsible to an electorate". Hope you give this some thought.
the second story, the man was reaching for an unidentifiable object and the officer feared for his life. end of story. no racism. just a stupid man not knowing how to act with officers
The cop in the Castile case should be put in prison for murder. But more than likely he'll get a paid vacation or "administrative leave" Law enforcement needs to be trained better to handle people with concealed carry weapons. I feel like i'm going to be killed if a cop sees my ccw during a traffic stop...
yeees. i would be pretty content if cops just held each other accountable for the bad ones and the bad things that happen. and im personally really annoyed at the people who assume that all cops are always in the right.
the guy that got shot in the car by the asian cop had just told him he had a gun and then kept reaching for his pocket, the cop said he told him to put his hands on the window, and the guys gf changed her story several times while recording (shit she even said 'the cop killed him" while her bf was still talking to her) people use kids all the time for crimes so shooting someone with a kid in the car is not surprising if they think they are going to be shot, keep in mind the guy had drugs and a gun in the car with a child
I went to college and I was taught security law by a former nypd detective, he was s black dude and he said it himself: the issue is not race, it's training, cops don't get trained properly and newbies are thrown into the worst neighborhoods just because. This obviously would make newbies make mistakes that could have them lose their jobs.
Sorry dude, but there is not a "problem" of police brutality. At this point you're trying to cherry pick incidents where police are at fault. Many of the cases the BLM and liberal media gets all up in arms about the officers were actually doing their jobs correctly, fending off criminals and such like Michael Brown, and shooting that kid who was aiming a realistic looking fake gun at police. You can't say there's a problem with police brutality by picking a tiny amount of incidences where a cop actually committed a crime. What's a problem is the thousands and thousands of thugs and criminals, and the amount of cops who are shot by criminals which is largely unreported on by mainstream media.
"You can't say there's a problem with police brutality by picking a tiny amount of incidences " It's not just about shootings.. It's the overall policing of black and brown communities. ", and the amount of cops who are shot by criminals which is largely unreported on by mainstream media." You can go online and find the numbers. Contrary to popular belief there is no war on cops.
King Joffrey Still not a war on cops. Who has declared war? Who from the black community has told every black person to go wage war on police officers?
dont take it personally that a cop has his hand on his firearm as he approaches your vehicle. a quarter of police deaths every year occur at routine traffic stops. id say thats a VERY good reason for cops to be cautious.
I noticed little things like the cop already having his hand on his gun, that's perfectly fine IMO. Cops need to be prepared for the crazy ass public (obv not talking about you). There have been cops who were shot in the face and/or chest immediately after walking up to a car. Also the part where you talk about "why would you be a cop if you fear for your life" is kind of a baseless argument. Everyone would fear for their life when trying to arrest a criminal with a gun who is resisting. Doesn't mean that cops shouldn't be cops. They may love what they do but it doesn't make sense for any of them to purposely behave in a way that is more dangerous to their safety. Also if you don't know anything about training methods in police departments/academies, don't talk about it like you know what it entails. There are corrupt people in every profession, police are no different. Their training is prob just fine considering the vast majority of cops that don't end up in the news for police brutality. You just have narcissistic assholes who ruin the reputation. I love your videos, man, and I agree with a lot of what you said in this one but you definitely were speaking with emotion in this one instead of with your mind like normal. Hope you don't take any of this the wrong way.
they walk up to me in the car with their hand on their gun too. so thank you for not just making it a black issue though. and you're right profiling does exist. For the most part I am white and when I lived in a black community I was the one getting profiled.
People that look like him are terrified of cops, or else think all cops are racists, or want to kill a pig for whatever reason. That's not his fault, of course, just saying hate, fear, rage, are all two-way streets. It's not even a black thing, some people hate the police. It's one of the reasons I would never be a cop. I don't want to deal with people's hate and stupidity. I'd rather just let them kill each other, and call someone to clean up the mess in the morning. The other reason is legalism... we got too many fucking laws, it's getting to where it's criminal to be poor in this country. www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-insane-laws-written-specifically-to-harass-poor-people/ And that's just five out of dozens of indictments, ordinances, and policies designed to fuck with people have little or nothing left to loose. If I was a cop, I would not enforce these fucking laws. Our government is progressively becoming tyrannical and oppressive because it seemingly wants to adopt all the worst ideas by the LEFT and the RIGHT, and it's not got a gawd-damn thing to do with race, but it seemingly has everything to do with REVENUE. Who has money, and where it's all going. OF course, they'll hassle the poor over 300 dollars in some court costs or fine because they've already lost everything, but they won't do a damn thing to find out where they've misplaced 300,000,000 dollars due to treachery, or political corruption, or incompetency. Of course, historically speaking, this tightening of the noose, and the cracking of the whip against the humble-masses, while those in higher positions get an infinite number of get-out-of-jail-free-cards usually ends up in civil-conflict, and the collapse of the state, and the death of scores of people. Which happens once no one is getting paid anymore, and the police, and the soldiers feel compelled to pick a side based on moral principles.
GIVE THIS MAN A MEDAL! You hit the nail directly on the head. Reforms are necessary and the Police need people training. The courts need reform as well, since most bad apples get away with murder. Reform is the key to us overcoming this trend of Police brutality. Personal Responsibility, it not just for some men.
I was hoping you'd comment on the situation, and I think you said EXACTLY what needed to be said. It's not about race, it's about criminal profiling, incompetence, and lack of good, reasoned, intelligent cops. Glad I found your channel.
Smart move when you got pulled over. Cops are trained to put their hand on their gone when they approach a car. It's the most vulnerable time for a cop. Look, I am a white guy been driving for thirty years. I have plenty of cops pull me over. I react just as you did. I am going to keep my mouth shut and not make the situation worse. I have had jerk cops and reasonable nice guys stop me. I am not saying there isn't a police brutality problem. There is. So if we know this, why not try to defuse the situation, by complying. It's in everyone's best interest.
Emotions are a real thing that can take over anyone. We as individuals can only control ourselves. I am a white man who maintains the grass at a courthouse. I used the restroom in the courthouse parking garage and someone had called security on me. When I came out there were to cops ready for me. I stayed calm and showed them my badge. They overreacted but principal isn't worth my life. You are the man @someblackguy
Just FYI when we do traffic stops we'll usually have our hand on our gun no matter what the color of your skin is. Traffic stops are the number 1 situation where officers get shot. However, that other cop was fucked for opening your door. Just remember most cops are good guys, there's a few bad apples. There's still a few departments that have the good ol' boys mentality, but it's a lot better than it used to be. Still a great video brother!
Also besides training the number one biggest issue is the hiring process. They don't even go into WHY you want to be a cop. They just hire bodies and expect them to be trained properly. If you polish a turd it's still going to be a turd.
i dont understand why people get upset when cops hold theyre hand on theyre gun, every time ive had a encounter with police they always have done that to me, and im white so i dont think its a race thing imo
I'm white. I got boxed in by 5 cop cars. 10 cops approached my vehicle with their guns drawn. And after asking me if they could search my car multiple times and me telling them no they wrote me a ticket for a "improper muffler". That was back when I laundered money and had connections to powerful people in the drug industry. I cannot say I blame the police officers and have since changed my life. I now program on the computer and make a decent amount
that cop walked to your car with his hand on his gun because in that line of work you do not know what you're walking into. You rly can't blame cops for doing things like this. I bet the second he realized you weren't going to fuck with him he eased up.
Hey man this comment is new on a video that's kind of old, but I'm sure someone will still see it. I just had to say that whenever I get pulled over the cop always comes up to my door with his hand on his gun because of so many police homicides that have been happening over the last few years especially now that the black lives matter movement is putting cops on edge.
There was a study done by the bureau of justice between 2002 and 2008. In 2008 There were like 40 million face to face contacts with police. Assuming the number has stayed roughly the same or declined 11% assuming the same 6 year trend, using last year's figures for killed by cops,1100 , that's very, very low. So I don't see a systemic or even a large amount of police killing people. Considering how often people interact with law enforcement.
Hey, love your channel. I have been a police officer for 10 years. I worked in small towns, and have no experience in larger cities. However from my experience cops join the force to help people. I have never met an officer who would do the kind of thing these officers are being accused of. In small community's its easy to take the time to talk to people. As an example last year I ran into an African American couple. Someone had called in because it looked like they were hitting each other, while sitting in there van. As it turns out they were swatting mosquitoes. After learning this I asked them for there names, as it's procedure. Well this started a half hour of me trying to explain to them that they were not in trouble, but I needed there info for my report. Not giving your info when an officer is conducting an investigation is a crime. I explained this to them several times, and informed them that I would have to arrest them if they did not provide there info. I begged them, telling them that I didn't want to arrest them. Eventually they gave me there info. I thanked them and left. This is easy to do in a small community, where the amount of calls are small. In a big city however you don't have that luxury. Your expected to get things done quickly. Imagine having a job where you see the worst in humanity. Day in day out. All the lies you hear, all the tragedies you see. This is a job that requires you to carry a gun. That alone should say something. I'm not writing this to excuse bad judgment, or bad cops. My point is that we put the badge on every day to serve and protect. Some are not worthy of wearing the badge. But most are. It's easy to get upset about a traffic stop. We've all been pulled over. But take a minute to understand that cops are always on alert for danger. I myself am a veteran of the Iraq war. I came home and became a cop. Because I wanted to serve. That desire to serve can be found in most cops.
Dude, you could not have been more spot on with reading my mind. Glad I subscribed. You basically hit, point for point what I've been thinking on these recent events. Thank you for making this video!
I'm white, have been pulled over many times throughout my life, several times cops have had their hands on their guns. Very unsettling. It seems to be more often a practice in recent years. Keep putting out these videos, appreciate your perspectives.
Completely agree with your assesment that american police officers recieve sub-standard training. From what I've read there's not even much psychological screening going on at all (like there is in most branches of the military all across the world), but there definitely should, because you need to take steps in making sure that you put the right kind of people/personalities for the job. However, I know you question people claiming they fear for their lives and that maybe they're a bit more fearful than most. However I don't think that's the case, I think it's more of a case where people (any person really) will eventually get traumatized by being in the line of fire, or seeing their co-workers perish in the line of fire too many times. The human mind can only deal with so much death and sense of risk for so long until it becomes unstable and make rash decisions (with horrible consequences) You can actually find a lot of footage on youtube of it. Search for some police traffic cam shootout footage. There are so many instances of completely ordinary stops, and where the driver of a suspect vehicle is asked to exit the vehicle and he or she does so in a calm manner at first, but then quickly pull a gun and starts emptying the clip at the police officers in their car (usually with fatal results). I think we're asking a bit too much when saying that police officer should all just "accept the risks" and expect them to act with complete selflessness to their own lives when they have to deal with shit like that. But you're absolutely right about the training being insufficient and I also believe there's a serious lack in psychological screening in applicants. I also think that the entire structure of police work is wrong. Being a "career cop" shouldn't entail working the streets or doing traffic stop and searches for years on end, non-stop, like it is now. If you compare that to the military, then it would be like having the same guys posted on the front lines for years on end, without rotation or leaves of any kind. This only wears the men out and turns their perspective on the mission, the tactics and the strategy to mush. A better structure would be to have mandatory rotation from "front line duty" (that is, working street patrols) in order to keep the officers rested and refreshed as much as possible from the sense of danger to their lives that they now have to live with every day. People doing military service also put their lives on the line. But they don't spend years abroad, fearing for their lives constantly. They have leaves and rotation. They get to go back home and turn off the sense of danger to their life. Cops don't, because such a structure is deemed to be "too expensive" and too taxing on the tax payers dollar.
I too at one time considered joining the SFPD. Until I realized that the SFPD training stressed violent confrontation, whether it meant to or not. This was back in the 1970s. I was prone to violence, I thought it was just my nature. But it wasn't my nature. My post reaction to my violent outbursts was always the same: regret, followed by intense sadness and then by depression, especially if I realized my violence was wrong for the situation. I also saw a good friend, a good man, transform into a monster when he became a cop. For him it became us against them. I gradually pulled away from him. He asked me why. I told him that I could no longer be sure about him, that he wouldn't turn his cop persona upon me. So we parted company, I never saw him again after that, and we had been close. I saw so much of me in him. I realized that I would enjoy the violence, that I would come to crave it. I would my humanity. And I didn't want to lose that, to lose the empathy I was so proud of. I did not want to come to enjoy dominating people. In short I was afraid of becoming a truly violent man. And violence is something too many cops love to indulge in. Mostly I didn't want to become a professional bully. And I knew that is exactly what I would become.
My brother and I (both white) were once ran off the road and surrounded by police who mistook us for another vehicle that had eluded a state trooper. We followed everything they demanded. I once had an officer reach into a car in which I was a passenger and grab something he thought was a bag of weed (it wasn't). I once was pulled over for driving 90mph in a 25 zone. I shut off my engine and put my keys on the roof of my car. Any time anyone is stopped by police, it has the potential to go VERY wrong. These men and women are trained to preserve their own lives first. I consider it my responsibility to keep myself safe by not agitating someone who is authorized to use deadly force if I put him/her in a position of fear. What happened with Philandro is easily the worst of all the shootings that have happened over the past few years. I still don't believe the officer "wanted" to kill anyone. From the description of events given by the Philandro's girlfriend, he told the officer he had a weapon AS HE WAS REACHING out of sight for his ID. She started yelling that he had a permit. In a moment of confusion, the officer panicked. A horrible, horrible mistake that led to a very tragic death.
The real issue is there are more than one issue involved with this problem. It isn't just police brutality. It isn't just racism. There is profiling but it isn't created from thin air. There is a large violence problem in many Black Communities that feeds the profiling. It doesn't justify police brutality. But it is a factor that is being ignored in many of the discussions about this. I TOTALLY agree with you that we need to have tighter screening on who gets to wear the badge to reduce the number of bad cops. But at the same time the Black communities need to start getting a serious handle on the violence in their midst. While Whites, Hispanics, Asians, etc. should do whatever they can to assist at the end of the day the Black Communities need to lead the charge in this issue. Nobody else can fix it for them. Blaming it on racism, bad cops, etc. doesn't address the root cause of the problem and actually prevents the situation from improving. That is why the SJWs who push the White Guilt narrative are actually harming the people of color they virtue signal they want to help. To fix this issue requires better police training and also a zero tolerance policy in the Black Communities for Black brutality.
I've been a police officer in Orange County for 18 years. In response to the cop who pulled you over at midnight walking up with his hand on the gun, I would not take it personally if I were you. He does not know until he contacts you if you are a good guy like you are, or a gang member with a murder victim in the back of the SUV who plans on shooting the moment he walks up. It's proven that under pressure, your reaction time is far less if you have your hand on the gun instead of trying to locate it before you draw it. So, even though it may appear unnecessary and harsh, It's a survival tactic because we just never know what we're walking up on.
The man in Louisiana, whose name I will not speak, was not lawfully carrying a gun. He was a registered sex offender, and last I heard people convicted of a felony are not allowed to possess firearms. As for why he was shot, the video's showed he was resisting arrest, but we did not have an angle on video that could either prove or disprove the officers claim that he reached for his gun, so I am inclined to take the officer's word for it. Note, the police were called there because he was threatening people with the gun that was illegally in his possession, so they knew he was armed. If you were a police officer and you were called in to a subject that you knew was in possession of a gun, then you'd probably be on edge too, afraid of getting killed yourself. Now, it is certainly possible that the man was not reaching for his gun, but he had it, and he was resisting, so it's understandable that those officers may not have wanted to gamble with their own lives. In short, it appears to have been a clean shooting. As for Philando Castile, I'm willing to say his name, as his death so far appears to be a genuine tragedy, but I'm still withholding judgement until the evidence comes out. We don't have video of the actual shooting or the events leading up to it, so it might be a good shooting. For example, while the girl in the car with him claimed that Philando said that he had a concealed carry permit and he was armed,the officer's body camera's, if they had one, might reveal that he neglected to mention it, and when Philando reached for his ID, the officer may have saw the gun and reacted out of fear. The video clearly shows that after the shooting that officer lost his composure and was badly shaken up, he was certainly unprofessional and disciplinary measures might be necessary, combined with more training if he were to retain his job, but if it turns out that Mr Castile had not identified that he was a concealed carry holder, then I don't think he should face criminal charges. I'm not a police officer, but my understanding is that if you identify yourself as concealed carrying, they ask where the gun is and ask that your hands stay well away from it, then you get out and place your hands on top of the car while the police officer removes the gun from your possession, then you are asked for your id. It seems odd to me that he was asked for his id after he disclosed that he had a gun. It seems much more likely that he had not mentioned it. We'll see what the evidence says, though Philando Castile did not deserve to die, but that does not mean he was murdered, it may have been a tragic incident where all parties made bad choices.
cops are trained to approach the car slowly with hand of their pistol (they wanna make sure they go home at night). 99% of cops will treat u with respect if u treat them respect.
Far as the cop having the hand on gun, it's kind of standard practice. It may seem like he's being a dick, but it's for his safety, ready at all costs.
The last time I got pulled over, I had my elderly father and toddler son in my car. My tags weren't up to date. As I stopped, I went into my glove box to get my insurance and registration. The cop saw this, and approached my vehicle with his hand on his gun. I'm white, so I usually don't worry about my interactions with cops. And I understand why he had his hand ready for the gun, but it still was unsettling, especially with my father and son in the car.
I enjoy your sane approach. It is so refreshing to listen to someone who has a sober view of these kind of events. I had the same idea that cops who shot Philando was just too damned nervous and it probably effected his perception and judgement. I could hear him screaming in the backround. He knew he fucked up. Guys with that kind of nervous level should not be allowed to police.
FYI: My tongue is red because I drank a fruit punch right before I started recording. Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but it was damn refreshing.
Isn't your tongue suppose too be red or is it usually black or something?
i heard you and the kool aid man had a ting going on.. thats what they say... OH YEA lol
Likely story, red wings are overrated.
hey check out this video and backs up your claims it shows that 3% of unarmed shootings of black males in the white males unarmed are 3% - mix up of all police shootings so yeah it's not more like a voice thing it says all these new cops are Trigger Happy but that first guy who got shot at the store I seen the video it looks iffy on both sides you're right but that second one in the car those no screw that guy needs to go to jail that cop
crazy sirk link?
I'm white and I've seen approach my car with their hand on their gun or they unclipped their holster as they walked up to my door. The worst is when one cop pulls you over and then he sits there for like 15 minutes and then three other cop cars pull up, surround you, and then all shine their spotlights on you. Thankfully I've never had my car searched (AKA torn to shreds because searching for drugs lets them legally destroy your car) or been asked to get out of my vehicle and patted down, but I have friends who have. It's shit like this that made me invest in a good dash cam. I think the cops have gotten away with this shit in the past and that they can't anymore thanks to technology.
I've never been pulled over by a cop before (knock on wood), but I have had white female friends who have, and have been met with this same approach; with the cop's hand on their gun immediately.
Do I think that America has a police brutality problem? Yes; currently a mild, but growing one. Based on facts and statistics, though, do I think that these instances of "police brutality" are racially based? Nope. But, apparently, basing my opinions on facts/statistics makes me racist.
+spiderleenie Unfortunately there is a racist component to this whole thing. If you take race out of the equation what you would have is a legal gun owner killed for exercising his second amendment rights, because without race in the equation this would have been a give me liberty or give me death moment for gun owners. But unfortunately this guy was black, and conservatives are tripping all over themselves trying to defend the cop when they shouldn't. If you removed race from the equation this could have been any one of them, but they can't remove race from the equation. I'm just so disappointed people can't see this for what it really is. The government has too much power. It's agents can decide if you live or die simply for not complying with them. But the reaction to this video proves racism still exists.
+Jacques Guerrier I didn't say it was. It's also about government power.
+General Zod I don't think you understand - conservatives by definition are for LESS govt power. Nobody I know or have heard is defending the police in this situation. You're right that it is about government power, however.
Wrong. Exceptions to search warrants exist.
I've had many experiences with cops being antagonistic, getting me and my passengers out of the car and trying to get any of us to do something that would justify violence. I've been assaulted by cops for being at the wing place at the wrong time. Some cops are bullies. Not all, but there are too many to claim there isn't a problem with vetting potential law enforcement officers.
In my case it certainly wasn't a race issue.
I've had similar experiences myself. I've even had evidence planted on me. Dirty cops exist, but they're in the minority. There does need to be some reform within law enforcement, but when one of their own does do something illegal, there isn't some gigantic system wide conspiracy protecting them. My dirty cop for example. After 4 years of probation from that arrest, I got news that the officer who planted the evidence on me had been indicted. For what? Stealing, and using, drugs from the evidence locker. So, bad cops aren't invincible.
the problem is training they are trained to intimidate people in to doing what they want
Lord Hephaestus my family has had to call the cops because my sisters boyfriend was stalking and make death threats against her and my family .. and the cops kept asking irrelevant questions regarding drugs and was us to empty our pockets and checked us for cuts or bruises , and called DCF to get a case open , but told us there was nothing they could do about my sister being stalked threatened and choked after kicking him out of her house .. Although they continued to ask incriminating questions and pretty much interrogate all of us include my children nieces and nephews ..
I know about 10 people from my criminal justice classes that have become cops, and about half of them have no business wearing a badge. I always give police the benefit of the doubt, and believe most are good people doing it for the right reasons, but it's disturbing how many unfit people become officers. The truth is fewer and fewer qualified people want to do the job because of the stress, danger, and typically low pay. As a result, departments don't vet applicants as well as they probably should because they have spots to fill.
I love your opinions, you always speak in a good manner without offending
Honestly because you are so objective and well spoken, it makes me consider anything you have to say regardless of whether I initially agree with it or not. You're an excellent speaker and very articulate. I love how you included personal examples and are considerate of individual situations. Just gah. Started following you and I really like everything that comes out of your mouth. 👍 keep up the good work!
Lack of accountability is to me the biggest issue in the police force. If they weren't so self protecting and would admit when one of their officers did something unlawful and unnecessary, this shit wouldn't really be happening to the extent that it is.
I agree.
That's not always the case. Bad cops are often held accountable despite the media narrative to the contrary. Lack of accountability in some Black Communities is causing this too. Just look at how many Black people lied in the Michael Brown case to perpetuate a false narrative. BOTH SIDES need to get their crap together to fix this issue.
stonegroovejason Yes, both sides need fixing.
Wizard of Ass ..wrong..police in America are seen as a extention of white male supremacy, if they were fucking perfect..minorities, and sjw crew would still hate them.,and paint them as nazi enforcers
@@samuelsmith9929 very true.. not seen that way by all, but for the situations where people start mouthing off to cops, you are correct.
I think we need to raise cops pay that way we will have more reason to deny people who fail the psychology testing they can not be cops, and have better training for the cops as well to not have a trigger happy response to situations as much.
I say this because there was a case years ago of this black female cop who went into a restaurant and shot up the place, even though on her psychology evaluation she failed, but they hired her anyway because police lacked staff.
So I think if we raised pay we could get more better quality cops to go into the force and deny the shitty crazy ones.
Cops make below poverty level wages, thus they will tend to get bottom of the barrel people because it a high risk job with shit pay.
So I believe we should take some of the money from either the politicians salaries because they make 4 times more than normal people for a job they barely have done. Or take it from either the military or sports funding because they makes millions too and sports players get paid more than most people in this country just to catch a ball.
That's a good idea. Same with teachers
Katie Honer
Agreed because teacher have the same issue as well
some good solutions you have there.
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lol?
"sports funding"
What in the actual fuck are you talking about?
It's great to see people in the anti sjw community actually address this. There's a problematic idea that the cops should be defended to annoy the left.
I believe the Alton Sterling shooting was justified & that the Castile shooting was a big fuck up, HOWEVER, we must blame the officer/officers involved in the Castile case, & not the entirety of American law enforcement, because that's just incredibly unjustified.
After all, lets not forget about the millions of other people that aren't shot when confronted by police.
I'm all for accountability, but lets make sure we're holding the right people/person accountable.
Damn straight
YES!
Surely the sheer amount of unjustified shootings highlights a flaw in the whole system. It's not just towards black people or even people. Have you seen the amount of videos showing police brutality against animals? No use pointing fingers at certain officers. You have to look at the bigger picture and ask why these "fuck ups" are happening.
Olly van der Kort ...animals?...uh...sure...
Anyway...like I said, the amount of people not being shot/killed by police is greater than the amount of people that are being shot/killed by police, and even then, a huge, gigantic percentage of those people shot/killed are situations and encounters where it's justified.
I refuse to blame the entirety of American law enforcement, because at the end of the day, they're keeping me safe.
There are several studies showing a correlation between animal cruelty and interpersonal violence. Regardless, let's ignore that and continue with your point that a majority of people *not* being shot/killed indicates there is no problem with American law enforcement.
Sure you're right, only an estimated 0.0003% of US population were killed by police in 2015. But that's still over 98% more than the percentage of the UK population shot by police (INQUEST). In 2014 American police killed 75% more people than the combined statistics of 9 European countries (Hirschfield 2015)
So why are more Americans being killed than elsewhere? Is there more violence in America? In 2014 there were reportedly only 1.69% of violent crimes in America (BJS) compared to 2.07% in England and Wales (ONS). In other words 20% less violent crime. Interestingly the FBI website shows lower statistics, more comparable to countries such as Denmark (OSAC).
My point remains that police are using excessive force. If we want to hold the right people accountable, let's look at the people setting the standards for policing in America. Hirschfield highlights that: Only 8 states require verbal warnings before shooting. Warning/legs shots are usually prohibited. Officers spend an average of 19 weeks of instruction depending on state. The majority of that time is learning how to use force rather than conflict de-escalation. Often less than 8 eight hours of crisis-intervention training.
Comparatively, UK police recieve 42 weeks training and are qualified after 2 years. In places like Norway they attend an academy for 3 years. This is all without the added responsibilities of carrying guns.
An armed police force should should equate to more training, not less. Need I say any more.
Now this is a very level headed discussion about profiling and police brutality, without all the usual yammering about white racism and "check your privilege" BS.
Good video man. But to add to what you said Whites, Latinos and other minority's suffer from it as well but those cases get little to no media coverage. This in turn creates the conception that police brutality is only happening to black people. So the mainstream media is to blame as well.
For real, man. The media is so one sided
+Motor Head I know right? Ive been getting my news from other various sources nowadays.
Mr R4zor I do the same
That's not what "in lieu" means. Subscribed.
I was waiting for someone to mention it.
He probably tripped over in view and in light.
+Steven Rivers I think they're trained to have their hand on their holster, they can't know what kind of criminal could be in that car ready to jump them. And yeah, it's probably to show who's got the power sometimes.
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Three police officers were just killed now, 2 others are in surgery and 5 others are in critical condition. You know, I get that 2 black men were killed. I don't know if the killing was justified or not. No reports have come about that. But still 2 black men were killed but does that justify opening fire on the police force?!! What is wrong with our people?! The more I want to give them the benefit of the doubt, the more the disappoint the rest of black people with these kind of violence. Lord have mercy. When will my fellow black people realize that revenge is not the answer?!
THIS^^^^^^^^^
4 killed now 11 shot total. 2 suspects in custody right now.
This is why police are over cautious! because they see how on an average day their brothers and sisters all over the country die in the line of duty....they are just watching out for themselves...everytime a cop walks up to my car when pulling me over they always have their hand on their gun...why? they don't know what's in the car...and they don't know what I'm thinking. Nowadays with the media painting a bad picture, everyone has this hate out towards cops....and the cops know this! they know that there are many that wish them harm....they are simply being too cautious and paranoid
is unfortunate that happens, but it will get worse before it gets better, people need to take things to Cort and try to change the system, going to the streets won't change anything rioting is not the answer and am sorry to say this but the African Americans aren't organized to do things the right way
Five dead, six wounded, one civilian wounded.
Inb4 "Uncle Tom" comments
Yup
Uncle Ben's.
mad4song01
Yes it is basically someone portraying the negative stereotype for black people like being a thug.
EventHorizon
Like I told you only uneducated idiots use these words yet have no idea what it means
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The more that I have thought about the idea of requiring all police officers to wear a camera at all times when on the job the more that I think it would solve many of these problems. It is a massive invasion of privacy for them but they are public servants and are entrusted by the public with extraordinary power. Cameras would not only keep the assholes in line they would also provide a clear record of these events.
I don't remember which shooting it was, but apparently the cameras the cops were wearing in it "fell off" or "malfunctioned" or something. There will ALWAYS be a loophole.
That is quite true, however if it was universally required then the lack of camera footage would itself be a violation and add to suspicion of wrongdoing. Aside from shootings and the like it would also provide a record of profiling stops and their frequency as well.
Malevolent Auton Basically all I was saying is that it wouldn't necessarily solve the problem - I believe it actually IS required in a lot of states for cops to wear cameras, but shootings keep happening. (Don't quote me on that - I'm Canadian, I don't know everything about the USA.)
Its something im acutally willing to put more than 10% of my paycheck towards tbh
but they get "dislodged" or "lost" at the most convenient times
I'm 18 and will be going into my local police academy (Durham). But I'm going to be one of those cool cops who likes to have fun and make South Park references.
My thing is the argument I hear: "Oh, white people don't have to tell their kids to act right around the police." Bullshit. My dad was a biker for years, our first conversation about cops went like
1: Don't talk unless you have to, answer questions but don't talk too much. 2: Be respectful, these people have power over you so don't give them an excuse to use it. 3: You don't have to trust them but you do have to obey them, trust me. You don't want to get into a fight with a cop, you're going to lose. 4: Always make sure your hands are visible, DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY EXCUSE.
And as to profiling, if you look in any way suspicious they automatically profile you. Besides their job it's just human nature to look for patterns and then act accordingly based off of them. My brother and I went through a Punk phase, in the deep south that makes you stand out a bit. We were followed the entire way through a mall by two black security guards, we didn't even stop by any stores. Just needed to use the bathroom.
In a lot of situations cops assume the worst because it's safer that way. My brother and his friend were getting lectured by two cops when I walked up with my hands in my pockets. The cop who wasn't talking, looked at me, looked at my hands, and put his hand on his gun. I got pulled over at 1 a.m and my cars window was busted so I had to open the door. Instantly the cop had his hand on his gun and was starting to pull it until I showed him my license and that the other hand was empty. Some cops may be racist but the majority of them will not hesitate to shoot you regardless of race if they think their life is in danger, because like most humans if it's you or them it's going to be you if they can help it.
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Man it is so unfortunate that you are absolutely right as far as why you have grown disinterested in law enforcement. Actually, we need more young individuals like you wearing badges though and fewer fucktards like the officer's involved in these latest two incidents. It saddens me greatly also to know that due to people's idiotic and irrational mentality, the actions of these badge wearing douche monsters will and now have cost the lives of other officers out there just trying to do a thankless job. God help us all!
Your videos used to be cool now you're just a dumbass..
+joseph colebaugh There's not a 'police brutality' problem. He's trying to cherry pick for instances where police have been at fault, when the majority of all these "police brutality" cases that BLM riots over and the media won't shut up about have been cops doing their jobs correctly, like the one who defended himself against Michael Brown and the kid who pointed a real-looking fake gun at cops and got shot. I haven't even read in detail about the two recent shootings he mentioned, but to say "police brutality" is a big problem based on a couple instances is ridiculous. What's a problem is the thousands of criminal scum and their sympathizers, thugs are shooting cops regularly and there's a disgusting problem of anti-police rhetoric right now. I though SBG was smarter.. Funny profile pic btw lol
In 2016, 136 blacks have been killed by police officers vs. 279 whites. When a minority is killed it is just sensationalized by the media to paint our country as a racist one. The amount of whites killed doubles blacks.
Now, having said that I do believe that these officers in these situations made serious mistakes and were not experienced enough or qualified to be out on duty. Poor choices were made on the deceased partys behalf as well, namely resistance. The tragedy in all of this is that people dont see cops that made poor choices, and they only see they are white and it HAS to be racism. Just because there is an altercation between two races doesn't automatically make is a racist situation. Someone may just be an asshole regardless of their skin color.
King Joffrey unfortunately, there is a police brutality problem. But, truth be told, 9/10 of the time people have it coming. If you are breaking the law, you cant expect the police to treat you with respect. And nowadays, police get injured and killed on a daily basis. When police dying happens regularly, you cant expect the police to just give you a free pass. And thanks, it took me a long time to find such a fierce picture;) also yes, way more whites get shot by police, but with buzzfeed and other media outlets constantly promoting "whites are evil", it doesn't get the media coverage. Assholes come in every color...
What is this? A common sense approach to the entire topic? Whaa?
Thanks for this video, man. I agree with it completely.
I've hitchhiked all over the country and have seen cops act totally illegally and abusive to all kinds of people.
I was born and raised in the ghetto. One night me and my girl had a fight so we went driving around to talk it out. We got to talking and she wanted to see where I grew up so we took a ride to the ghetto and I got pulled over for being white and being down there at 2am. I got harassed another time by the cops for being white and down there visiting friends. I have been yanked out the car at gun point and man handled for no reason especially when I was abiding by all the laws. The difference is the news did not pick the story up. But they at times even profile whites. But think about how many people are getting pulled over every minute and how few incidents are happening. There is good and bad in every race, sex and category of the work force. I don’t think all of those cops are racist. Sometimes they are just assholes that create situations by abusing their power. But once again the true enemy of the people which is the mainstream media makes it look like strictly a race thing. Could you imagine how many problems would go away if the news would just do news and not do shit and twist shit to divide Americans. I’m sorry but I agree with Trump and Malcolm X the media is the true enemy. They don’t help anything and only further divide us. It is so sick
i'm so glad you did this video. I needed to see a levelheaded response. Great job
Don't sell yourself short; You're not just some black guy. You have intellect and I enjoyed the video as it was very insightful. Thank you.
Everyone needs to wait till all the facts come out on every case
FACTS my ass
there is no possible way to justify the bullshit in these cases
anyone whobhas ever handled a gun should know that you never escalate a situation
no way to justify this
A Black Man who works at a group home got shot (he lived) because a shiny toy truck was OBVIOUSLY a gun. The Black Man got shot AFTER The Black Guy got on the ground with his hands in the air. BUT YEAH, LET'S WAIT FOR THE FUCKING FACTS. -_-
+In_Correct were you there?
Police: need to see your ID
Castile: *reaches for wallet and says* I have a gun
Police: don't move *draws weapon*
Castile: *moves hand from behind him to in front of him*
Not saying justified, and this is the account from the girlfriend, reported by Vox, but I still can see the officer's point of view in the Minnesota case.
Probably the most balanced take on the situation I've seen lately.
I've had a border officer put his hand on his gun and threaten to shoot me ("hand on the wheel or I'll fire"), when the only issue I had was the papers proving that my dog was mine.
There are some messed up authority figures out there.
Here in Denmark it's really difficult to become a police officer. You have to take various personality tests to make sure you're fit for the job.
I had an officer pull my door open first thing when I accidently ran a light . didn't think anything of it though he was a black cop with a white officer with him . the stop took ten minutes . gotta show love for the channel ur doing it right .
I know its been a year since you put this up but I just wanted to let you know that when ANYONE gets pulled over 3 things will be done by the cop 1. they will put their finger print on some part of the car incase something happens 2. They will almost always have their hand on their gun it has nothing to do with you being black its for their safety its happened to me every time I get pulled over and I'm white. 3. 99% of the cops out there will treat you based on the way you treat them, unfortunately that 01% gives the 99% a bad name. I think you should have joined the academy we need more people who want to do the job for the sake of doing the job and not the power trip some get from it. Just a thought.
Who’s here in 2020 thinkin’ about the whole ass mess. He’s spot-on with the TRAINING of these officers being the problem. That, and they have to profile which sucks
Great video. I agree with everything you said bro. I am white and even i have been in bad situations when i did nothing wrong and it could have went horribly real quick. To a cop it matters not what color you are, anyone who challenges their authority is opening themselves up to possibly being hurt or even killed. It's not a white against black or black against white thing, its a blue against everyone else thing. I like what you said about if they are that scared then don't be a cop! Alot of them are scared of their own shadow and treat everyone and every situation as a threat.
Invictus Media yes and them having they’re hand on their holster is okay. He doesn’t know what the suspect is thinking.
Now, it's a shame that there are innocent people getting shot. But there are also people who are shot for good reason. But the worst part is that people in BLM can't see the difference. They compare an innocent guy getting shot to a guy who (and this actually happened) beat his wife, beat up the EMTs trying to help her, and a cop who tried to arrest him. After beating on this cop for a while, he was shot off of the cop by his partner after telling him to stop multiple times. The connection? Both of the men who were shot were black. This was enough for BLM. One innocent man and one guilty. Both grouped together by BLM.
You make a lot of good points here, especially regarding training. When I was active duty EOD I worked with local, county/parish, state, and federal LEOs across several states quite frequently (EOD responses, support for the USSS, or various training environments) and below the state level police departments are all over the map. A big area where this shows itself frequently is dealing with the mentally ill; cops just aren't trained how to handle that so they end up shooting a lot of people who they probably wouldn't have to if we'd given them some additional skills. Burlington, VT's police department (at least had) a psychologist who'd frequently respond either with the police or alone (with a radio) to incidents which seemed to be involving the mentally ill and it seems like they got a lot of positive results out of that experiment. Frankly, in much of the US, we're setting our police officers up for failure and we all suffer the consequences for that.
Another somewhat related area I noticed issues (and I think you touched on) was recruiting and retention standards (and on the flip side of that, LOW PAY). A lot of departments are in a position where they have massive trouble finding mentally and physically qualified candidates (because the job FUCKING SUCKS) so they find themselves in a position where they have to take almost anybody they can get. Then, even if they go in mentally and physically fit, in five years when they're a fat, pissed off basketcase the department can't afford to get rid of them. We need to put police departments in a position where they can pay their officers enough to put up with the bullshit (and discourage corruption) and consequently be able to turn away people who can't hack it or fire officers who can't stay qualified for the job.
We also need to look at how departments evaluate officers' job performance and cities sometimes view citations as a valid revenue stream; both can sometimes feed into unnecessarily 'predatory' behaviors on the part of police.
Some other, more random comments:
I see cops approach stopped cars (including mine both now when I look like a pissed off veteran and years ago when I looked like Jerry Cantrell or Jesus) with a hand on their weapon frequently; I think it's a TTP they're taught and I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it.
The majority of cops I've worked with have good motivations but a lot of them turn into dicks because they've been dealing with the scum of the earth all day or maybe something like they've pulled a dead kid out of a car wreck recently and something about the circumstances of your stop reminds them of that accident. None of that necessarily excuses unprofessional behavior but it would help if the rest of us understood that it's an inherent part of the job and there's nothing that can really be done about it. You're right though; even if they're being a raging asshole and overly aggressive, if you give them nothing to feed off of everybody is going to walk away from the interaction. Know and assert your rights but always be polite and professional, even if the officer won't.
Obligatory speculation on current events:
Alton Sterling: Nominated himself for a Darwin Award. Based on current evidence, expect to see the officers cleared.
Philandro Castile: Hopefully the officer was wearing a body camera and hopefully it makes sense of what the hell happened. Right now it looks like he seriously, seriously fucked up.
Honestly I'm white and I have never been pulled over without a cop having his hand on their gun! So I do believe it's training, but not only with cops I was taught if you get pulled over you roll down your window and cut off your vehicle!
I think a big problem is that many people will either take the cop's side automatically or the black person's side automatically. They see it as a political decision - if you're on the left, you take the side of the black person. If you're on the right you take the cop's side. But it seems to me that if I look at an individual situation, I have no horse in the race. I will wait until the evidence comes out and if it appears that the cop murdered someone, than call it what it is. If it turns out that the black person attacked the cop and tried to take his gun, then I don't have to side with this person simply because they're black and there's a history of racism. People who take one side no matter what are setting themselves up to be wrong a lot of the time. The most obvious example of this is the Mike Brown case - people saw it as a political issue - if you're on the left, you take the side of the person who's a minority. But that way of thinking led to the wrong conclusion. It turned out that the officer was entirely justified. It also made Fox news be right for once, ironically enough. People chant "we want justice." Well so do I. "Justice" means finding out the truth, not presuming someone to be guilty simply because they're a white cop.
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So you say your scared of cops? But at the same time your defending there position Lola. makes sense ( sarcasm)
Cops will usually put their hand on their gun when approaching any vehicle. Not to intimidate, but to protect themselves.
Yes this was my first thought too. Have it on the holster to quickdraw if someone pulls a gun
illkhan Well I'm a white girl and cops have approached my vehicle with their hand on their gun during a traffic stop. My older brother, who's a cop, says he does it every time. Mostly because you're approaching a box on wheels and you can't see what's inside. We're living in a time when people hate cops and would shoot them just for wearing their uniform, so it's always better to be protected. Please read this and change your crooked viewpoint: bit.ly/29HRPEf
illkham, you're the reason why cops are jumpy for.
If you are scared of cars you shouldnt be an officer
Sir Chris Are you actually stupid?
I've been profiled before I think. I had a fucked up hand me down car from my dad that he had hit a deer with. I was pulled over all the time because my car looked like it had been in an accident. New car, now I don't get pulled over.
I know from personal experience that it is not rare for a cop to use illegal drugs, take steroids habitually, or be involved with underage girls. Some of the biggest scumbags I've ever come across at parties and social gatherings like have been cops. The drunkest, loudest, most violent guy has been the cop way too many times. A friend of mine's dad was a cop and one day he came home, laid on the horn in his car, and when his kids all came outside to see their dad he blew his brains out in front of them. Power certainly attracts the mentally ill. There needs to be a new process put in place for vetting wannabe police officers, with much more extensive psychological testing and evaluation. This is coming from someone who has never even been pulled over before, so I have no reason to dislike the police.
I agree 100%!! These cops need to be vetted. It's not about the guns nor is it totally about racism. I don't think some of these cops have their screws tight and I don't mean that as an insult. I truly hope that the cops in these cases get some serious therapy. I really really do.
Also all of times, cops don't get the mental care they need in order to get past some of the experiences they've had. Many of them start out doing great but the job takes a tax on them and they can't handle it anymore.
Yes, thank you. Im black and I have seen cops roll over people of all races. It's far more important to everyone's safety that we give the power of law enforcement to the right people.
You're a man of integrity and a critical freethinker. I can confirm that when I was growing up, and even through the 1970s in NYC, and 2001 in Jersey City, cops were overwhelmingly decent. The cowardly and/or 'roidal ragers need to stay off the force.
White guy chiming in, i've had that same scenario where a cop walked up removing the safety on his holster and having his hand on his gun. I was already talking to another officer without a problem, I believe I did nothing to make anyone fear me and yeah it pissed me off but just like you I bit my tongue. Answered the questions I needed to and went on my way. Sometimes cops just do stupid shit but as long as you don't follow down that scenario of escalating back and forth you'll be fine.
Me too. And I'm whiter than snow. I also think that people (Not an excuse) don't have enough knowledge on the daily stress and anxiety some of our law officers go through in a career. I think regular evaluations of their mental well being and stability should be conducted at least on a yearly basis. Not everyone is used to getting physical or dealing with people with out of control emotions and physical altercations as well as witnessing death and human destruction like our Police Officers. People think they can just turn it off when they go home and turn it back on when they go to work. It's a mental problem that leads to bad things down the road. Law Enforcement and Correctional Officers lead the nation in Suicidal death for workers. There must be some connection there. I love your videos by the way "Some Black Guy" Keep them up!
HowardSupra all cops have there hands on the guns on traffic stops because "traffic stops are inherently dangerous" that's called "case law" read a book son
lionitist, maybe you missed the part where I was already engaging another officer that not only didn't do the same shit but was handling the stop without incident.
HowardSupra yes pumpkin, not all traffic stops are handled the same, there's something called "totality of circumstances" (pst that's called caselaw again) which dictates how each traffic stop is handled not every traffic stop is handled the same because (wait for the caselaw...) "traffic stops are here inherently dangerous" (damn it there's that case law again) when you get your foot out of your mouth let me know boy.
Ok Grandpa, yet again, this was the *SAME* stop. Go take your Alzheimer medicine please so you retain some of this information.
injustice anywhere is a threat injustice everywhere. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
When you where talking about that cop walking up to your car with his hand on his gun ready to pull in case he had to defend himself i was kind of disappointed in your reaction, you already acknowledged racial profiling but are you really putting yourself in that police officers shoes to analyze why this is how he conducts himself in this situation, he goes to his job every day knowing at any point he could be in a deadly confrontation that's something that most people on the planet do not have to face in their day to day work lives, The problem i see in most of these incidents is the police officer should be trying to keep control of the situation without escalating it and that doesn't happen, i feel like this is a training issue...
agree agree agree
Beat cops in England don't carry guns. They do just fine.
Mr Maws
How is that in any way relevant, handguns are banned in England...
Mr Maws that's because guns aren't legal in this country they need guns in America as guns are legal and you never know who is armed maybe they should be all made to carry tasers aswell tho as a first response. before using firearms. might save some lives that way
Mr Maws and that's why England got their asses kicked by Americans because we all carry guns.
Why don´t circulate a petition to white people to show their stories with the police and to show that the problem is not racism but police brutality. then they can make a formal request to improve the standards in selection of candidates or training,
love your show men.
Cops are trained to approach cars with hands on their guns. It's basic safety. Until they see your hands and all the occupants and know there's no threat, they are trained to assume there is a threat. Your video here is way off the mark, and I love all your other videos. Cops get killed constantly, and the reason they are killed most of the time is because of their own complacency. It's the guy who walks up to cars without the hand on the gun that gets killed. There is less police brutality now than ever, less corruption now than ever. There is no problem with police brutality. It's, if anything, a statistical anomaly. Cops must be aggressive in situations to make sure they get out alive. If people comply there usually is no issue. It's when people decide they will fight or disobey that 'brutality' occurs.
So Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend are a statistical anomaly huh. Listen bud I'm not a ACAB BLM crazy ok but saying there is less corruption and brutality is bullshit. Cops still enforce unjust laws about marijuana and unconstitutional gun laws. Police abuse the power no matter the race because the people who are police are assholes. All the good cops have either been fired, quit themselves, or have been put in jobs where they can't do shit so now all we have left are the asshole cops. What about when police just left citizens to fend for themselves in seattle in 2020. Yea remember CHAZ CHOP where people were getting raped and murdered and the cops didn't do shit all because the mayor basically said "fuck it let them have it". Listen I don't care about cops pulling my over and putting there hand on their gun that's fine I get it but saying "There is less police brutality now than ever, less corruption now than ever." is bullshit. But eh whatever well see if you still like the cops when they tell you to get on your knees and gun you down like a dog like they did Daniel Shaver get the fuck out of here.
@@MuzzleFlash-loves-ginger-ale Youre actually proving my point. The politics in this country are completely fucked, and it all comes from the left. enforcing gun laws? the left. telling police to stand down in Seattle and at every BLM riot? The left. The police unfortunately have to take orders from politicians, who are intent on pushing their agenda or lining their pockets. the police would have loved to destroy Chaz or put down the riots or disperse the mob in kenosha, but because politicians wouldn't allow them, a 17 year old took it on his own hands. almost every cop is a good cop. they are filmed everywhere they go and have body cameras, everything they say and do is recorded... and youre honestly gonna say they are more corrupt now than ever before? buddy you need a reality check.
To the officers who walk the straight and narrow:
_I salute you._
To those who don't:
I salute you with one finger...figure out which.
Wtf you're 28???
You look 17 now O.O
@Some Black Guy, You should try asking your local law enforcement department if they can give you a simulation for "use of force" training. This might be very insightful, and some fun for you to video. I know they do it in Phoenix. Maybe some of the questions as to why some cops specifically do some actions might be answered. I am/was not a cop, but I was a grunt in the USMC and did two trips to Iraq some time ago. I understand, and agree, that law enforcement needs to work on their customer service skills. When I was in the Marines, there was a term called "Complacency Kills", which means when a marine got too comfortable he lost his situational awareness and would end up getting killed, or others killed. Cops deal with this a lot, and it is one thing to say that no one should be too afraid to work, I understand that, but they also have to deal with a complacency factor. When you have someone with you die, or someone try to kill you, it teaches you not to be complacent. This is NOT to say cops have an excuse to be a tyrant, because they don't. This is just what would be in their heads, to not be complacent. I work security at a college, of which I deal with police officers everyday, and even at that level I see some unconstitutional actions that may be seen as minor. I agree there needs to be reforms.
Also, most cops everywhere don't have ongoing training. Outside of the academy it's on the job. It's on their not paid time for shooting practice, working out, and any other type of job training. On top of that, they they end up doing a lot of overtime because the departments don't want to hire too many due to budget restraints. When I was in the Marines deployed, there would be mock missions and ongoing training in everything from the culture and customs in the area, weapons training, what is going on in certain neighborhoods, etc. Most cops do twelve hour shifts, with no on-going training. They might get a small brief, but there's no sit down class or activities to make them a better cop. For example, I'm a huge dog advocate. I've seen, and get infuriated when cops enter a property and when a dog rushes up they shoot it. They could easily have their dog handlers teach them behaviors of dogs so they can serve their communities better, but they don't. They could have ongoing classes, and training, for dogs, human behavior, communication, and lots more but most city governments cut their funding when it comes to this type of stuff. I know the get too many militarized types of equipment, but my argument is a better place to spend money in order for cops to be better cops. I want them around because I don't want bloods, crips, ms-13, biker gangs, and any other type of group that acts as a government to impose force that "is not responsible to an electorate". Hope you give this some thought.
I've been waiting for this video
The lower the crime the easier the cop feels handling lower threats
As a Brit, I can't even comprehend a police officer approaching me with a gun, it must be very frightening.
the second story, the man was reaching for an unidentifiable object and the officer feared for his life. end of story. no racism. just a stupid man not knowing how to act with officers
The cop in the Castile case should be put in prison for murder. But more than likely he'll get a paid vacation or "administrative leave"
Law enforcement needs to be trained better to handle people with concealed carry weapons. I feel like i'm going to be killed if a cop sees my ccw during a traffic stop...
TomTerrific #GOAT #PatsDynasty #MVP #4Rings #TB12 Don't hold a gun, keep it to the side or hidden and make no move to grab it.
yeees. i would be pretty content if cops just held each other accountable for the bad ones and the bad things that happen. and im personally really annoyed at the people who assume that all cops are always in the right.
the guy that got shot in the car by the asian cop had just told him he had a gun and then kept reaching for his pocket, the cop said he told him to put his hands on the window, and the guys gf changed her story several times while recording (shit she even said 'the cop killed him" while her bf was still talking to her)
people use kids all the time for crimes so shooting someone with a kid in the car is not surprising if they think they are going to be shot, keep in mind the guy had drugs and a gun in the car with a child
I went to college and I was taught security law by a former nypd detective, he was s black dude and he said it himself: the issue is not race, it's training, cops don't get trained properly and newbies are thrown into the worst neighborhoods just because. This obviously would make newbies make mistakes that could have them lose their jobs.
Sorry dude, but there is not a "problem" of police brutality. At this point you're trying to cherry pick incidents where police are at fault. Many of the cases the BLM and liberal media gets all up in arms about the officers were actually doing their jobs correctly, fending off criminals and such like Michael Brown, and shooting that kid who was aiming a realistic looking fake gun at police. You can't say there's a problem with police brutality by picking a tiny amount of incidences where a cop actually committed a crime. What's a problem is the thousands and thousands of thugs and criminals, and the amount of cops who are shot by criminals which is largely unreported on by mainstream media.
"You can't say there's a problem with police brutality by picking a tiny amount of incidences "
It's not just about shootings.. It's the overall policing of black and brown communities.
", and the amount of cops who are shot by criminals which is largely unreported on by mainstream media."
You can go online and find the numbers. Contrary to popular belief there is no war on cops.
+Theprophet524 Tell that to all the cops who were just killed in Dallas you fucking idiot
There are sometimes when the police brutalize folks, not all cops are 100% my man. That's why it feels good to encounter an outstanding one...
King Joffrey Still not a war on cops. Who has declared war? Who from the black community has told every black person to go wage war on police officers?
+Theprophet524 That Killer Mike quote though, "when you muthafuckas gone rise up and kill the police?"
Didn't he speak at a BLM event or something?
dont take it personally that a cop has his hand on his firearm as he approaches your vehicle. a quarter of police deaths every year occur at routine traffic stops. id say thats a VERY good reason for cops to be cautious.
Could not finish this video. I've never heard you make less sense than right now.
Lol explain how I didn't 'make sense'?
Ig you can't think with logic, it's ok, we need people with low IQ to flip burgers 😉
ah, no. You made perfect sense.
You made sense, red beard is just the type of person who cant listen to anyone who doesnt say exactly what they want.
I noticed little things like the cop already having his hand on his gun, that's perfectly fine IMO. Cops need to be prepared for the crazy ass public (obv not talking about you). There have been cops who were shot in the face and/or chest immediately after walking up to a car.
Also the part where you talk about "why would you be a cop if you fear for your life" is kind of a baseless argument. Everyone would fear for their life when trying to arrest a criminal with a gun who is resisting. Doesn't mean that cops shouldn't be cops. They may love what they do but it doesn't make sense for any of them to purposely behave in a way that is more dangerous to their safety.
Also if you don't know anything about training methods in police departments/academies, don't talk about it like you know what it entails. There are corrupt people in every profession, police are no different. Their training is prob just fine considering the vast majority of cops that don't end up in the news for police brutality. You just have narcissistic assholes who ruin the reputation.
I love your videos, man, and I agree with a lot of what you said in this one but you definitely were speaking with emotion in this one instead of with your mind like normal. Hope you don't take any of this the wrong way.
I will quote Vernaculis on this one: "The only people who can be trusted with power are the ones who hate having it."
they walk up to me in the car with their hand on their gun too. so thank you for not just making it a black issue though. and you're right profiling does exist. For the most part I am white and when I lived in a black community I was the one getting profiled.
Sorry those things happened to you bro. Please stay safe outhere. These cops are terrified of ppl that look like you.
You got that right
People that look like him are terrified of cops, or else think all cops are racists, or want to kill a pig for whatever reason. That's not his fault, of course, just saying hate, fear, rage, are all two-way streets. It's not even a black thing, some people hate the police.
It's one of the reasons I would never be a cop. I don't want to deal with people's hate and stupidity. I'd rather just let them kill each other, and call someone to clean up the mess in the morning.
The other reason is legalism... we got too many fucking laws, it's getting to where it's criminal to be poor in this country. www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/5-insane-laws-written-specifically-to-harass-poor-people/ And that's just five out of dozens of indictments, ordinances, and policies designed to fuck with people have little or nothing left to loose. If I was a cop, I would not enforce these fucking laws.
Our government is progressively becoming tyrannical and oppressive because it seemingly wants to adopt all the worst ideas by the LEFT and the RIGHT, and it's not got a gawd-damn thing to do with race, but it seemingly has everything to do with REVENUE. Who has money, and where it's all going. OF course, they'll hassle the poor over 300 dollars in some court costs or fine because they've already lost everything, but they won't do a damn thing to find out where they've misplaced 300,000,000 dollars due to treachery, or political corruption, or incompetency.
Of course, historically speaking, this tightening of the noose, and the cracking of the whip against the humble-masses, while those in higher positions get an infinite number of get-out-of-jail-free-cards usually ends up in civil-conflict, and the collapse of the state, and the death of scores of people. Which happens once no one is getting paid anymore, and the police, and the soldiers feel compelled to pick a side based on moral principles.
GIVE THIS MAN A MEDAL! You hit the nail directly on the head. Reforms are necessary and the Police need people training. The courts need reform as well, since most bad apples get away with murder. Reform is the key to us overcoming this trend of Police brutality. Personal Responsibility, it not just for some men.
I was hoping you'd comment on the situation, and I think you said EXACTLY what needed to be said. It's not about race, it's about criminal profiling, incompetence, and lack of good, reasoned, intelligent cops.
Glad I found your channel.
Smart move when you got pulled over. Cops are trained to put their hand on their gone when they approach a car. It's the most vulnerable time for a cop. Look, I am a white guy been driving for thirty years. I have plenty of cops pull me over. I react just as you did. I am going to keep my mouth shut and not make the situation worse. I have had jerk cops and reasonable nice guys stop me. I am not saying there isn't a police brutality problem. There is. So if we know this, why not try to defuse the situation, by complying. It's in everyone's best interest.
Emotions are a real thing that can take over anyone. We as individuals can only control ourselves. I am a white man who maintains the grass at a courthouse. I used the restroom in the courthouse parking garage and someone had called security on me. When I came out there were to cops ready for me. I stayed calm and showed them my badge. They overreacted but principal isn't worth my life. You are the man @someblackguy
I think it's awesome that your looking at both sides of the story and trying to compromise! Keep up the good work man!
He was trained "Around blacks, never relax".
Seriously though, great video. I enjoy your content.
I was waiting for your video on this. Said everything I've been thinking.
It's not just here. It is also in South Africa. #SouthAfricanPoliceBrutality. #PoliceBrutalityWorldwide.
"even somebody like me" - wow...speaks volumes
Just FYI when we do traffic stops we'll usually have our hand on our gun no matter what the color of your skin is. Traffic stops are the number 1 situation where officers get shot. However, that other cop was fucked for opening your door. Just remember most cops are good guys, there's a few bad apples. There's still a few departments that have the good ol' boys mentality, but it's a lot better than it used to be. Still a great video brother!
Also besides training the number one biggest issue is the hiring process. They don't even go into WHY you want to be a cop. They just hire bodies and expect them to be trained properly. If you polish a turd it's still going to be a turd.
Also also, subbed.
i dont understand why people get upset when cops hold theyre hand on theyre gun, every time ive had a encounter with police they always have done that to me, and im white so i dont think its a race thing imo
I'm white. I got boxed in by 5 cop cars. 10 cops approached my vehicle with their guns drawn. And after asking me if they could search my car multiple times and me telling them no they wrote me a ticket for a "improper muffler".
That was back when I laundered money and had connections to powerful people in the drug industry. I cannot say I blame the police officers and have since changed my life. I now program on the computer and make a decent amount
that cop walked to your car with his hand on his gun because in that line of work you do not know what you're walking into. You rly can't blame cops for doing things like this. I bet the second he realized you weren't going to fuck with him he eased up.
Last 2 times I got pulled over the cops had their hand on their holster . I live in Chicago and I am white .
Hey man this comment is new on a video that's kind of old, but I'm sure someone will still see it. I just had to say that whenever I get pulled over the cop always comes up to my door with his hand on his gun because of so many police homicides that have been happening over the last few years especially now that the black lives matter movement is putting cops on edge.
As they should be on edge. People are tired of having family members killed and no justice served and the murderer get a slap on the wrist
There was a study done by the bureau of justice between 2002 and 2008. In 2008 There were like 40 million face to face contacts with police. Assuming the number has stayed roughly the same or declined 11% assuming the same 6 year trend, using last year's figures for killed by cops,1100 , that's very, very low. So I don't see a systemic or even a large amount of police killing people. Considering how often people interact with law enforcement.
some black guy you kick ass dude, you've become one of my favorites on TH-cam!
Hey, love your channel. I have been a police officer for 10 years. I worked in small towns, and have no experience in larger cities. However from my experience cops join the force to help people. I have never met an officer who would do the kind of thing these officers are being accused of. In small community's its easy to take the time to talk to people. As an example last year I ran into an African American couple. Someone had called in because it looked like they were hitting each other, while sitting in there van. As it turns out they were swatting mosquitoes. After learning this I asked them for there names, as it's procedure. Well this started a half hour of me trying to explain to them that they were not in trouble, but I needed there info for my report. Not giving your info when an officer is conducting an investigation is a crime. I explained this to them several times, and informed them that I would have to arrest them if they did not provide there info. I begged them, telling them that I didn't want to arrest them. Eventually they gave me there info. I thanked them and left. This is easy to do in a small community, where the amount of calls are small. In a big city however you don't have that luxury. Your expected to get things done quickly. Imagine having a job where you see the worst in humanity. Day in day out. All the lies you hear, all the tragedies you see. This is a job that requires you to carry a gun. That alone should say something. I'm not writing this to excuse bad judgment, or bad cops. My point is that we put the badge on every day to serve and protect. Some are not worthy of wearing the badge. But most are. It's easy to get upset about a traffic stop. We've all been pulled over. But take a minute to understand that cops are always on alert for danger. I myself am a veteran of the Iraq war. I came home and became a cop. Because I wanted to serve. That desire to serve can be found in most cops.
This is seriously the most well-argued, rounded view on recent happenings. Great video.
Dude, you could not have been more spot on with reading my mind. Glad I subscribed. You basically hit, point for point what I've been thinking on these recent events. Thank you for making this video!
I’ve had a cop threaten to take me and my friends to jail because we were talking during lunch no lie
I'm white, have been pulled over many times throughout my life, several times cops have had their hands on their guns. Very unsettling. It seems to be more often a practice in recent years. Keep putting out these videos, appreciate your perspectives.
Don't become dead. The world needs men like you.
Completely agree with your assesment that american police officers recieve sub-standard training. From what I've read there's not even much psychological screening going on at all (like there is in most branches of the military all across the world), but there definitely should, because you need to take steps in making sure that you put the right kind of people/personalities for the job.
However, I know you question people claiming they fear for their lives and that maybe they're a bit more fearful than most. However I don't think that's the case, I think it's more of a case where people (any person really) will eventually get traumatized by being in the line of fire, or seeing their co-workers perish in the line of fire too many times.
The human mind can only deal with so much death and sense of risk for so long until it becomes unstable and make rash decisions (with horrible consequences)
You can actually find a lot of footage on youtube of it. Search for some police traffic cam shootout footage. There are so many instances of completely ordinary stops, and where the driver of a suspect vehicle is asked to exit the vehicle and he or she does so in a calm manner at first, but then quickly pull a gun and starts emptying the clip at the police officers in their car (usually with fatal results).
I think we're asking a bit too much when saying that police officer should all just "accept the risks" and expect them to act with complete selflessness to their own lives when they have to deal with shit like that.
But you're absolutely right about the training being insufficient and I also believe there's a serious lack in psychological screening in applicants.
I also think that the entire structure of police work is wrong. Being a "career cop" shouldn't entail working the streets or doing traffic stop and searches for years on end, non-stop, like it is now. If you compare that to the military, then it would be like having the same guys posted on the front lines for years on end, without rotation or leaves of any kind.
This only wears the men out and turns their perspective on the mission, the tactics and the strategy to mush.
A better structure would be to have mandatory rotation from "front line duty" (that is, working street patrols) in order to keep the officers rested and refreshed as much as possible from the sense of danger to their lives that they now have to live with every day.
People doing military service also put their lives on the line. But they don't spend years abroad, fearing for their lives constantly. They have leaves and rotation. They get to go back home and turn off the sense of danger to their life. Cops don't, because such a structure is deemed to be "too expensive" and too taxing on the tax payers dollar.
I too at one time considered joining the SFPD. Until I realized that the SFPD training stressed violent confrontation, whether it meant to or not. This was back in the 1970s. I was prone to violence, I thought it was just my nature. But it wasn't my nature. My post reaction to my violent outbursts was always the same: regret, followed by intense sadness and then by depression, especially if I realized my violence was wrong for the situation. I also saw a good friend, a good man, transform into a monster when he became a cop. For him it became us against them. I gradually pulled away from him. He asked me why. I told him that I could no longer be sure about him, that he wouldn't turn his cop persona upon me. So we parted company, I never saw him again after that, and we had been close. I saw so much of me in him. I realized that I would enjoy the violence, that I would come to crave it. I would my humanity. And I didn't want to lose that, to lose the empathy I was so proud of. I did not want to come to enjoy dominating people. In short I was afraid of becoming a truly violent man. And violence is something too many cops love to indulge in. Mostly I didn't want to become a professional bully. And I knew that is exactly what I would become.
My brother and I (both white) were once ran off the road and surrounded by police who mistook us for another vehicle that had eluded a state trooper. We followed everything they demanded.
I once had an officer reach into a car in which I was a passenger and grab something he thought was a bag of weed (it wasn't).
I once was pulled over for driving 90mph in a 25 zone. I shut off my engine and put my keys on the roof of my car.
Any time anyone is stopped by police, it has the potential to go VERY wrong. These men and women are trained to preserve their own lives first. I consider it my responsibility to keep myself safe by not agitating someone who is authorized to use deadly force if I put him/her in a position of fear.
What happened with Philandro is easily the worst of all the shootings that have happened over the past few years. I still don't believe the officer "wanted" to kill anyone. From the description of events given by the Philandro's girlfriend, he told the officer he had a weapon AS HE WAS REACHING out of sight for his ID. She started yelling that he had a permit. In a moment of confusion, the officer panicked. A horrible, horrible mistake that led to a very tragic death.
The real issue is there are more than one issue involved with this problem. It isn't just police brutality. It isn't just racism. There is profiling but it isn't created from thin air.
There is a large violence problem in many Black Communities that feeds the profiling. It doesn't justify police brutality. But it is a factor that is being ignored in many of the discussions about this. I TOTALLY agree with you that we need to have tighter screening on who gets to wear the badge to reduce the number of bad cops. But at the same time the Black communities need to start getting a serious handle on the violence in their midst. While Whites, Hispanics, Asians, etc. should do whatever they can to assist at the end of the day the Black Communities need to lead the charge in this issue. Nobody else can fix it for them. Blaming it on racism, bad cops, etc. doesn't address the root cause of the problem and actually prevents the situation from improving. That is why the SJWs who push the White Guilt narrative are actually harming the people of color they virtue signal they want to help.
To fix this issue requires better police training and also a zero tolerance policy in the Black Communities for Black brutality.
Average Police training in US , 19 weeks.
Quebec, 2 years college degree (police tech degree) plus 15 weeks training.
Norway, full university degree.
I've been a police officer in Orange County for 18 years. In response to the cop who pulled you over at midnight walking up with his hand on the gun, I would not take it personally if I were you. He does not know until he contacts you if you are a good guy like you are, or a gang member with a murder victim in the back of the SUV who plans on shooting the moment he walks up. It's proven that under pressure, your reaction time is far less if you have your hand on the gun instead of trying to locate it before you draw it. So, even though it may appear unnecessary and harsh, It's a survival tactic because we just never know what we're walking up on.
The man in Louisiana, whose name I will not speak, was not lawfully carrying a gun. He was a registered sex offender, and last I heard people convicted of a felony are not allowed to possess firearms. As for why he was shot, the video's showed he was resisting arrest, but we did not have an angle on video that could either prove or disprove the officers claim that he reached for his gun, so I am inclined to take the officer's word for it.
Note, the police were called there because he was threatening people with the gun that was illegally in his possession, so they knew he was armed. If you were a police officer and you were called in to a subject that you knew was in possession of a gun, then you'd probably be on edge too, afraid of getting killed yourself.
Now, it is certainly possible that the man was not reaching for his gun, but he had it, and he was resisting, so it's understandable that those officers may not have wanted to gamble with their own lives. In short, it appears to have been a clean shooting.
As for Philando Castile, I'm willing to say his name, as his death so far appears to be a genuine tragedy, but I'm still withholding judgement until the evidence comes out. We don't have video of the actual shooting or the events leading up to it, so it might be a good shooting.
For example, while the girl in the car with him claimed that Philando said that he had a concealed carry permit and he was armed,the officer's body camera's, if they had one, might reveal that he neglected to mention it, and when Philando reached for his ID, the officer may have saw the gun and reacted out of fear.
The video clearly shows that after the shooting that officer lost his composure and was badly shaken up, he was certainly unprofessional and disciplinary measures might be necessary, combined with more training if he were to retain his job, but if it turns out that Mr Castile had not identified that he was a concealed carry holder, then I don't think he should face criminal charges.
I'm not a police officer, but my understanding is that if you identify yourself as concealed carrying, they ask where the gun is and ask that your hands stay well away from it, then you get out and place your hands on top of the car while the police officer removes the gun from your possession, then you are asked for your id.
It seems odd to me that he was asked for his id after he disclosed that he had a gun. It seems much more likely that he had not mentioned it. We'll see what the evidence says, though
Philando Castile did not deserve to die, but that does not mean he was murdered, it may have been a tragic incident where all parties made bad choices.
Very good video my friend, you really did a good job of giving us all something substantive to chew on.
cops are trained to approach the car slowly with hand of their pistol (they wanna make sure they go home at night). 99% of cops will treat u with respect if u treat them respect.
Far as the cop having the hand on gun, it's kind of standard practice. It may seem like he's being a dick, but it's for his safety, ready at all costs.
The last time I got pulled over, I had my elderly father and toddler son in my car. My tags weren't up to date. As I stopped, I went into my glove box to get my insurance and registration. The cop saw this, and approached my vehicle with his hand on his gun.
I'm white, so I usually don't worry about my interactions with cops. And I understand why he had his hand ready for the gun, but it still was unsettling, especially with my father and son in the car.
I have to say this is one of the best commentaries I've ever heard regarding the police.
I enjoy your sane approach. It is so refreshing to listen to someone who has a sober view of these kind of events. I had the same idea that cops who shot Philando was just too damned nervous and it probably effected his perception and judgement. I could hear him screaming in the backround. He knew he fucked up. Guys with that kind of nervous level should not be allowed to police.
This is exactly what I've been saying. In fact I better training and accountability was what BLM was about until it went completely nuts.