Bill Bittner wow man congrats! I am in the same boat. 6yrs of Bachelors and currently on my 2 month of Masters. 18months to go.... Patience is a virtue. Good luck teaching!
Gustavo Moreno Good for you man! And keep up the good work you got it. I stopped after my Bachelor's so props to you. And thank you for the kind words.
@bill bittner I'm about to college in a year or so. And I'm hoping to go to a good college and get a bachelor's degree in nursing. Afterwards maybe importing an r34 gtt or an Evo 8 or 9. You have ur dream now! But hopefully I can reach mine too!
Evo owner here - I totally agree with this review. The STI is a bit more "well rounded" and is better as a daily. My Evo is sometimes a pain in the ass but when I want to have fun, it is VERY fun.
Seriously, take it with a grain of salt, Mistubishi have been MILES ahead of Subaru for a VERY long time, and it's only up until the recent WRX/STi (god forbid its horrid ass looks) that it has even come CLOSE to the EVO, whether it be the 5-speed ADM model GSR, or the JDM 6-speed GSR, and, the MR ranges.
Xico HatchiRoku Pretty sure they are now, can't say for certain since I have only seen one link referencing this, but even still, with Evo out of the way, FINALLY you sti boys can catch up.... see you in 5 more years when you finally develop a model that will at the very least, beat evo's worst model :)
Have owned an STI and currently own an Evo 9, the cars aren't even in the same ball park when it comes to performance. The Evo is much better at everything and the gap only gets bigger when you start to mod them. I find his critique of the Recaro seats comical when the USDM STI/WRX seats are probably some of the worst seats I have ever sat in when it comes to a "sports" car. I had to do the seat spring mod on my STI just to make them somewhat acceptable. I have daily driven my 9 for almost 6 years now so I guess the reviewer either has a crazy long commute in mind or just doesn't appreciate a raw car because I love driving it every day. I will say I won't take the 9 on road trips over 500 miles, it does become brutal at that point. I'm currently trying to Justify an Audi S3 as a daily driver so I can make the Evo a garage queen but it's just so much fun to drive I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger. TLDR; Evo 9 > STI ringland eater and it isn't even close. Also the Lotus you mentioned is not quick and does not take to mods like a 4G63, that's why you wouldn't get a Lotus...
I guess it just depends if the car was poorly cared for before you got it. I've had my evo 9 for almost 6 years, running at 28psi of boost and the car has not had one issue. The only things I've had to replace are the usual wear and tear items like tires, oil, clutch, brake pads, etc... Sorry about the Scooby man, good luck with your next car choice. If I was to get a Subaru again it would be a pre 2007 STi.
+David F (dtf96) exhaust,tune,boost controller,hard ic pipes and fuel pump. Evos have a bigger stock turbo than stis so they can run more boost. my biggest gripe with stis besides the glass engines is they have 0 top end stock because they come with a pea shooter turbo. :/
+David F (dtf96) I know the feeling haha. As long as you enjoy the car is all that matters. Good clean evo 9s (best usdm model) are still going for over 20k so I think you are doing alright for what you spent on your scoob.
+Ilisha Mas Based on what? Evos with a 4g63 can reliably handle 500+ hp and take to mods very well. stis get iffy when going stage 2 lol(less than 400 hp) I guess if you like having no top end, crappy seats and a glass engine the sti is a better buy. But what do I know, I've only owned and modded both cars. :)
+Ilisha Mas still is cheaper to buy. no way. subarus are very popular and young and old car enthusiasts are willing to pay big money to get them , so guess what they sell email higher priced not to say they are truly worth that high price tag. just like the supra. before the movies 🎥 came out especially the fast and furious supra would pass by the auction block a few times before people would buy. now forget about it
Female EVO IX SE driver here (61K since new). I think the look on your face said it all! I would agree with much of your review. However the steering on the EVO is much better than the STI which has little feel to me. The EVO is like driving a giant go-cart. The STI is much more prone to understeer also. The bad points for the EVO on a daily driver basis is the awful AWFUL turning circle and the lack of creature comforts. Also servicing is a problem with few dealers in my area of Portland, Oregon. I have been asked the most ridiculous questions at Mitsubishi such as "is it an automatic". My friends call it my "race car with a radio". I continually get very enthusiastic comments (often from STI drivers who are amazed to see a middle aged female driver) on the car and it is 8 years old.
you don't buy an Evo for a comfortable ride. wow you had to mention it so many times... That's like buying a sports car and expecting it to have good gas mileage. i had to thumbs down.
Evo guys, quit getting butt hurt. The majority of what he said is absolutely true. I have a IX and it isn't my daily driver nor would it ever be. It is not a comfortable car to be in and has the turning radius of a battleship, which can be a pain sometime. But it puts a huge smile on my face when its time to have fun. He's right, the Evo is a no nonsense track car for the street. The STI has a better balance of performance and comfort. Both are awesome! Besides, its his review, if you want your opinions to be heard, make your own. Nice vid.
Its not that they are butthurt persay, just some people dont like hearing the truth, at the end of the day: WRX/STi= better DAILY driver car EVO= Better performance driver car... definately excellent for weekend warriors though... which is a good thing if you are like me and stack massive mileage commuting to work and thus have a cheap bomb of a car to do it in.
I agree the sti would be a better every day driver. I love both but I'd still prefer the performance over practical but that's me everyone is different
SubieDiamond 100% better, i agree, it has a really aggressive front, more comfortable interior, i know the interior isnt that good, but is way better than ix
They just do because for nowadays standards is doesnt look that great, but actually i like it too. Not as good as the sti interior, but thats the only better thing thats sti has over the evo x.
Evo got the best 4WD system in the world. There are always Evo vs STI street battle in Hong Kong just like WMMT. Usually Evo’s engine can be modify more. The STI is a more driver friendly car and a little bit cheaper.
I think it depends on a person. For me the evo uncomfortable area gives me the feed back of the car. I feel like its an extension of my body. Softer cars makes me very sleepy.
How can you say the evo is not in your face compared to the sti, then you say the evo is compared to a mustang, Wtf. I own a 2006 sti and I no the evo is more the aggressor,
I plan on buying an Evo 9 next year and the lancer filler "guage" is one thing I really don't like. I do plan on replacing it with a boost guage though. thanks for the review!!
Fair review. I can't believe that the gauges are still in the stock position. It takes a few minutes to swap the stereo & gauges, and move the boost to the upper left.
Yes the Evos~ One of Mitsubishi's best models for sure~ You don't get cars like this from them anymore, and that's a shame~ I think the Evo VII or VIII is my favourite iteration of the car~
I do mention back seat room in some of the cars I review, if I think it matters to the people interested in the car. An Evo is on the hardcore side so I didn't bother. This car is about average backseat size, you can fit 3 adults back there fine as long as the people sitting up front aren't fairly tall.
A friend of my brother had a yellow Evo this body style and he had a Ford Lightning before it. He didn't have the Evo very long because he couldn't ever get used to how crazy the car was (and the cops loved it lol). It had a bigger turbo and intercooler, plus methanol injection I think. And this coming from a guy who also owns an early 2000s Corvette Z06. Good review.
Like your review but want to do some notes here. Not all of the interior is made from hard plastic, second the clutch is hard because is on its way or the hydraulic pumps are bad, when new the clutch has been light, steering is very precise and the right weight, noises are there because there is very little sound proofing in this cars.
wow, slow steering response? That's the first time I've heard that one. The evo uses a 13:1 rack to pinion ratio which is one of the tightest made in MANY cars.
The Evo IX has a 13:1 ratio steering rack taking 2.1 turns lock to lock and a 06 STi has a 15.2:1 ratio steering rack and takes 2.7 turns lock to lock. It looks like the STi got a 13:1 steering ratio rack for the 2015 model year. Not apples to apples. At freeway speeds in my old Evo VIII and Evo IX MR SE I've sneezed and started to enter another lane. It was extremely quick rack that requires your undivided attention at 100% of the time. No texting and driving for sure lol
+GrandCamino6 Exactly he's biased and doesn't want to give the evo credit. Even the Roads Untraveled reviewer said the thing he loved most about the evo is it's quick steering.
+MannyFresh1x That was by far the favorite about the two that I owned. It reminded me of the invader go-cart that I had when I was a child. You can see when he's going through the turns that he's barely turning the wheel on the curvy road that he took it on.
+GrandCamino6 I love mine and it's a DD I have no problem with my seats or suspension. Hell I drove the car home 143 miles from where I bought it and they were quite comfortable. Yeah until he exaggerated turning his whole body with the wheel :P. On his subie reviews everything is perfect even the hard plastic silver interior he said was "nice".
+MannyFresh1x I daily drove mine as well. Pretty expensive car to daily but I think the rewards are well worth it. I think I'll eventually get another one but not a X. It still hasn't grown on me. I'd like to give an RS a whirl.
I'm surprised you didn't touch on the transmission. Also all EVO's have gear whine in 1st gear and slight whine 6th (for the MR). I love this car and would love to own one at some point (non MR though due to the trans). Great review Matt!
Can't compare steering feel or initial steering angle with snow tires! The rack on the evo is faster than the STI. Not sure about the FRS but it's probably similar to the EVO. I'm not sure if many cars have a faster rack. Also, The Elise doesn't have 4 doors :)
subaruwrxfan, I would really love to see a review of an evo 8 jdm 6-speed gsr, I understand that the IX MR are completely different from the evo 8 gsr (6-speed) But I would still love to see an independant review.
Off point on boost evo 9 turbo spools up at 3500 Evo 8 turbo spools up at 3200 Stock boost is 18psi, mitsubishi made it this way due to a law regarding advertise horsepower. Once you mod the evo vs a modded subaru the evo just dominates. If you want a daily car get a civic for comfort and mpg Yes im an evo guy I got your quote earlier about rolling eyes lol
the way you described this car, is exactly the same as my stage 1 2011 wrx. Stiff, uncomfortable, laggy, but a ton of fun and makes a great noise. im going on 170k miles but i will keep this thing until it rusts out
if you want a suby or evo and your thinking of cranking up the horsepower with mods buy the evo.. their motor is strong with a weak transmission.. the sti motor is weak with a strong transmission and it's much cheaper to modify a transmission to handle power over an engine.. food for thought. plus with the suby every time you wanna put new engine parts in the whole motor has to be yanked out
BlakeSTI93 so the evo will make more hp than the wrx sti without the engine having problems? Kinda true ive seen more 800 hp evos than 800 hp wrx's but which would be better ? Wrx sti or evo 9
The Evo IX RS is possibly in my opinion the best Evo ever made. Why? Because the 5 spd is better than the 6 (because it can handle more power) and the RS is the lightest of the bunch.
You're right I was rolling my eyes the whole time I disagree with you on a lot of stuff and u not comparing an older evo to a new STI or even a lotus come on
Those recaros are leaned way too far forward. They feel great when they’re leaned back. Feels way more comfortable with the seat leaned back but you’re still close enough to the cluster and wheel
No gona lie after 3:29 min I had to pause it and research this guy because I had a feeling his an sti person and yup I was right. Why would you even review an Evo if you Gona talk crap for the first 3 min.. not even Gona watch the rest. Peace
Just want to point out that the Evo 9 has a quicker ratio rack than the STi.. So what he's saying about the steering doesn't really make sense. Maybe he's talking about the brand new STi? I absolutely LOVE the steering in my 9 MR, and have driven an 06 STi extensively. Not as good steering-wise for sure.
I think the evo 9 is a great car better then Subaru, the body is gorgeous, one thing that I have to say about this review is, this guy agrees and disagrees on everything he says makes no sense. Plus he doesn't put the car to the test to see how it really handles, I personally watched best motoring videos from Japan and I have to tell you that all the reviews about this car are awesome, this car handles really good and the value stays the same, in fact I like this one better then the newest model... Odak20🔰
Minor suspension mods an seat upgrades can easily change the issues your pointing out.... which most owners change anyway because who owns an import an leaves it stock? ID choose an Evo over an Sti anyday.
I just got my first evo 9 MR with a 5 speed transmission and it's a dream. But all of you dude need to chill with that X is better than IX shit Evos are all badass. But in my opinion the VI and V are the best looking if I could I get one and put the IX engine in it
you keep saying how laggy this evo is.. is it cause it is Bone stock an not stage 2 cobb tuned like nearly every sti you have reviewed! last time i checked evo comes onto full boost earlier then Wrx sti's ;)
After owning both an Evo and STI: Evo IX = easy power, more power for same mods as STI, driver's car, better steering feel, larger turbo, more noisy, seats less confortable, closed-deck iron block. STI = better DD, a bit quieter, insane off-boost torque, smaller stock turbo, bulletproof 6-speed, stock engine can't handle high boost.
Atreyu96 What about the handling? we're you ever able to upgrade the STI's handing to match the evo's? I've never driven a evo but I own an STI and it understeers when pushed to the limit.
Most of the Subarus we're weak in handling untill the 2015+ models. They upped their game handling wise. My friend had a 2011 Sti and a 2015 WRX. He said the WRX handles better stock vs stock.
I see id change the seats well the passenger seat for my wife but id say changing the front seats to something mor comfortable would make it better for long trips and such. I really want one cuz i have a son so the fam could ride and still have the performance i want
This dude needs to learn how to drive, he obviously doesn't get what this car does, he should try turning the wheel and see what happens, evo will turn Subaru will under steer.
The smile on his face when he hits boost is priceless.
it's the only annoying thing in each video ..
Cars like this are the reason I go to school to get a great job so I can get beast tuners help me God
Thanks for the advice Bill! Hard work pays off
Same here bro. Same here. Well actually the evo is on of the options ..
Bill Bittner wow man congrats! I am in the same boat. 6yrs of Bachelors and currently on my 2 month of Masters. 18months to go....
Patience is a virtue. Good luck teaching!
Gustavo Moreno Good for you man! And keep up the good work you got it. I stopped after my Bachelor's so props to you. And thank you for the kind words.
@bill bittner I'm about to college in a year or so. And I'm hoping to go to a good college and get a bachelor's degree in nursing. Afterwards maybe importing an r34 gtt or an Evo 8 or 9. You have ur dream now! But hopefully I can reach mine too!
First time I drove an Evo was the day I bought it. And it has 600whp. 1000 smiles per gallon!
Same here! Drove it and wrote the check lmao
Evo owner here - I totally agree with this review. The STI is a bit more "well rounded" and is better as a daily. My Evo is sometimes a pain in the ass but when I want to have fun, it is VERY fun.
Sell your evo to someone
Dan Rosa haha nevar!!
what evo do you have?
DoubleSpeeded 2003 Evo 8~
Vincent Nguyen what sort of power you pulling?
Because a review on an evo from a guy named subaruwrxfan would not be biased
I hear that
Seriously, take it with a grain of salt, Mistubishi have been MILES ahead of Subaru for a VERY long time, and it's only up until the recent WRX/STi (god forbid its horrid ass looks) that it has even come CLOSE to the EVO, whether it be the 5-speed ADM model GSR, or the JDM 6-speed GSR, and, the MR ranges.
***** Sure, but lets see something, where is your evos now? Thats right in your dreams cuz Mitso aint making more in the future
Xico HatchiRoku Pretty sure they are now, can't say for certain since I have only seen one link referencing this, but even still, with Evo out of the way, FINALLY you sti boys can catch up.... see you in 5 more years when you finally develop a model that will at the very least, beat evo's worst model :)
It's called having a favorite car, just because that's his name doesn't mean that he only likes those
Plastic is hard? I'll be damned
haha true
Lmao
Kmfl
I've had one for 2 years and I cannot believe how much I still love it, it's thirsty but the cornering ability is AWESOME.
Car drinks a lot?
lol he's smiling the whole time and trying to tell himself the sti is better :D
Tho we all know it’s not true :D
@@sergiosalcido3812 It is though
Facts
Have owned an STI and currently own an Evo 9, the cars aren't even in the same ball park when it comes to performance. The Evo is much better at everything and the gap only gets bigger when you start to mod them. I find his critique of the Recaro seats comical when the USDM STI/WRX seats are probably some of the worst seats I have ever sat in when it comes to a "sports" car. I had to do the seat spring mod on my STI just to make them somewhat acceptable. I have daily driven my 9 for almost 6 years now so I guess the reviewer either has a crazy long commute in mind or just doesn't appreciate a raw car because I love driving it every day. I will say I won't take the 9 on road trips over 500 miles, it does become brutal at that point. I'm currently trying to Justify an Audi S3 as a daily driver so I can make the Evo a garage queen but it's just so much fun to drive I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger. TLDR; Evo 9 > STI ringland eater and it isn't even close. Also the Lotus you mentioned is not quick and does not take to mods like a 4G63, that's why you wouldn't get a Lotus...
I guess it just depends if the car was poorly cared for before you got it. I've had my evo 9 for almost 6 years, running at 28psi of boost and the car has not had one issue. The only things I've had to replace are the usual wear and tear items like tires, oil, clutch, brake pads, etc... Sorry about the Scooby man, good luck with your next car choice. If I was to get a Subaru again it would be a pre 2007 STi.
+David F (dtf96) exhaust,tune,boost controller,hard ic pipes and fuel pump. Evos have a bigger stock turbo than stis so they can run more boost. my biggest gripe with stis besides the glass engines is they have 0 top end stock because they come with a pea shooter turbo. :/
+David F (dtf96) I know the feeling haha. As long as you enjoy the car is all that matters. Good clean evo 9s (best usdm model) are still going for over 20k so I think you are doing alright for what you spent on your scoob.
+Ilisha Mas Based on what? Evos with a 4g63 can reliably handle 500+ hp and take to mods very well. stis get iffy when going stage 2 lol(less than 400 hp) I guess if you like having no top end, crappy seats and a glass engine the sti is a better buy. But what do I know, I've only owned and modded both cars. :)
+Ilisha Mas still is cheaper to buy. no way. subarus are very popular and young and old car enthusiasts are willing to pay big money to get them , so guess what they sell email higher priced not to say they are truly worth that high price tag. just like the supra. before the movies 🎥 came out especially the fast and furious supra would pass by the auction block a few times before people would buy. now forget about it
Female EVO IX SE driver here (61K since new). I think the look on your face said it all! I would agree with much of your review. However the steering on the EVO is much better than the STI which has little feel to me. The EVO is like driving a giant go-cart. The STI is much more prone to understeer also. The bad points for the EVO on a daily driver basis is the awful AWFUL turning circle and the lack of creature comforts. Also servicing is a problem with few dealers in my area of Portland, Oregon. I have been asked the most ridiculous questions at Mitsubishi such as "is it an automatic". My friends call it my "race car with a radio". I continually get very enthusiastic comments (often from STI drivers who are amazed to see a middle aged female driver) on the car and it is 8 years old.
Yea i live in Medford OR and service with the dealers here are whack too. And handling in the Evo is much more responsive and better
The always classic line "let's take it on this back road..."
Changing spark plugs on an Evo > Changing spark plugs on an STi
^true
The truth is strong here
BIG FACTS
Thanks for triggering my paranoia :)
you don't buy an Evo for a comfortable ride. wow you had to mention it so many times... That's like buying a sports car and expecting it to have good gas mileage. i had to thumbs down.
electric feel I agree, he mentioned it way too much. It is a MR it has the upgraded suspension...
Evo guys, quit getting butt hurt. The majority of what he said is absolutely true. I have a IX and it isn't my daily driver nor would it ever be. It is not a comfortable car to be in and has the turning radius of a battleship, which can be a pain sometime. But it puts a huge smile on my face when its time to have fun. He's right, the Evo is a no nonsense track car for the street. The STI has a better balance of performance and comfort. Both are awesome! Besides, its his review, if you want your opinions to be heard, make your own. Nice vid.
Its not that they are butthurt persay, just some people dont like hearing the truth, at the end of the day:
WRX/STi= better DAILY driver car
EVO= Better performance driver car...
definately excellent for weekend warriors though... which is a good thing if you are like me and stack massive mileage commuting to work and thus have a cheap bomb of a car to do it in.
I agree the sti would be a better every day driver. I love both but I'd still prefer the performance over practical but that's me everyone is different
Frank Davis Jr I'll probably get a ralliart one
The new Lancer's are really ugly. I prefer the Evo 9's body style.
Me too!
I agree 100%
Evo x is way better
SubieDiamond 100% better, i agree, it has a really aggressive front, more comfortable interior, i know the interior isnt that good, but is way better than ix
They just do because for nowadays standards is doesnt look that great, but actually i like it too. Not as good as the sti interior, but thats the only better thing thats sti has over the evo x.
Difference between a wrx and an evo is that the wrx is more like your average driving car and evos are raw. its a raw driving experience. IMO
Talon Td I wouldn't call the wrx an average driving car, but it's no where close to as raw as the evo
Ethan Shrago agreed.
Ethan Shrago i did say "more like" however
I understand he reviews cars so he has to critique them, but he seemed a little heavy on the complaints. Just my opinion.
I'll review a V8 version as soon as I can find one to review.
little does he know that the stock evo is so much faster than a stock sti
2006 Subaru wrx sti is 305 hp
2006 evo 9 is 285 hp
Just sayin...
+Chris Boumalhab Horsepower isnt the excelleration or speed.. its the power
+GlobularDriver97 regardless, the weight of the vehicles is very similar, so the horsepower makes a large difference. power to weight ratio=speed
Evo got the best 4WD system in the world.
There are always Evo vs STI street battle in Hong Kong just like WMMT. Usually Evo’s engine can be modify more. The STI is a more driver friendly car and a little bit cheaper.
Don't know about straight line performance, but the AYC works wonders in the corners
the evo is simply a real mans car not some jerk mobile
Cant put a subie guy in a evo lol
I think it depends on a person. For me the evo uncomfortable area gives me the feed back of the car. I feel like its an extension of my body. Softer cars makes me very sleepy.
I love the way that evo looks....so iconic
its not about how much power the car makes stock but how much it can make. the evo has much more potential than an sti
They have the same potential, just have to put a bit more work into the STI to get it there #Builtnotbought
Hey Subaruwrxfan can you try and review a 2001 Integra Type R.
That would be sick👌🏽
How can you say the evo is not in your face compared to the sti, then you say the evo is compared to a mustang, Wtf. I own a 2006 sti and I no the evo is more the aggressor,
I plan on buying an Evo 9 next year and the lancer filler "guage" is one thing I really don't like. I do plan on replacing it with a boost guage though. thanks for the review!!
Seat complaint = get over it
Clutch complaint = get over it
Noise complaint = get over it
Raving about stock power = get over it
Fair review. I can't believe that the gauges are still in the stock position. It takes a few minutes to swap the stereo & gauges, and move the boost to the upper left.
been waiting so long for this! Thanks!
Yes the Evos~ One of Mitsubishi's best models for sure~ You don't get cars like this from them anymore, and that's a shame~ I think the Evo VII or VIII is my favourite iteration of the car~
I do mention back seat room in some of the cars I review, if I think it matters to the people interested in the car. An Evo is on the hardcore side so I didn't bother. This car is about average backseat size, you can fit 3 adults back there fine as long as the people sitting up front aren't fairly tall.
Man I've always loved this model Evo, if it wasn't for the truly painful insurance rates I would be in one of these in a heartbeat.
last generation of the legendary 4G63
Please no more hand gestures.
A friend of my brother had a yellow Evo this body style and he had a Ford Lightning before it. He didn't have the Evo very long because he couldn't ever get used to how crazy the car was (and the cops loved it lol). It had a bigger turbo and intercooler, plus methanol injection I think. And this coming from a guy who also owns an early 2000s Corvette Z06. Good review.
lol i just want a stock evo...hard to find lol
if you're lucky youll find just bolt ons evo that you can put back to stock
Dat1Nigga ZimDoe suh dude lol
Jourdan Johnson aaayr was good man
I wouldn’t mind one with full bolt ons and an evo 9 turbo
its almost an impossible thing to have if only mitsubishi still produce evo cars
DROOOOOOLLLLL !!! A Rare gem indeed !!
I just bought a 2011 Ralliart and I love it. But damn. This will be my next car hopefully by late 2014.
yea, I'm thinking about buying this car as well. Its pretty sick.
Like your review but want to do some notes here.
Not all of the interior is made from hard plastic, second the clutch is hard because is on its way or the hydraulic pumps are bad, when new the clutch has been light, steering is very precise and the right weight, noises are there because there is very little sound proofing in this cars.
You should consider multiple camera views so we can see the road aswell.
HumbleCarMods exactly
Excellent review! I'm sure this one won't last long at the dealer. I would choose an EVO over a STi.
wow, slow steering response? That's the first time I've heard that one. The evo uses a 13:1 rack to pinion ratio which is one of the tightest made in MANY cars.
heavy? youre just weak lol
subaru warswaxrrxrx fan . . . lol gets me every time.
Where can I buy this exact model??
+David Ratkay craigslist
as they say you want the subaru on the way to the track but u want the evo for the track day and the subaru to go back home...dunno if u agree :)
The evo steering rack slow?? pfff ok buddy
The Evo IX has a 13:1 ratio steering rack taking 2.1 turns lock to lock and a 06 STi has a 15.2:1 ratio steering rack and takes 2.7 turns lock to lock. It looks like the STi got a 13:1 steering ratio rack for the 2015 model year. Not apples to apples. At freeway speeds in my old Evo VIII and Evo IX MR SE I've sneezed and started to enter another lane. It was extremely quick rack that requires your undivided attention at 100% of the time. No texting and driving for sure lol
+GrandCamino6 Exactly he's biased and doesn't want to give the evo credit. Even the Roads Untraveled reviewer said the thing he loved most about the evo is it's quick steering.
+MannyFresh1x That was by far the favorite about the two that I owned. It reminded me of the invader go-cart that I had when I was a child. You can see when he's going through the turns that he's barely turning the wheel on the curvy road that he took it on.
+GrandCamino6 I love mine and it's a DD I have no problem with my seats or suspension. Hell I drove the car home 143 miles from where I bought it and they were quite comfortable. Yeah until he exaggerated turning his whole body with the wheel :P. On his subie reviews everything is perfect even the hard plastic silver interior he said was "nice".
+MannyFresh1x I daily drove mine as well. Pretty expensive car to daily but I think the rewards are well worth it. I think I'll eventually get another one but not a X. It still hasn't grown on me. I'd like to give an RS a whirl.
appreciate every review man.
No mention of the shifter? MR has one of the best shifter on earth.
Jeffrey Castillo and worst reliability
I'm surprised you didn't touch on the transmission. Also all EVO's have gear whine in 1st gear and slight whine 6th (for the MR). I love this car and would love to own one at some point (non MR though due to the trans). Great review Matt!
Can't compare steering feel or initial steering angle with snow tires! The rack on the evo is faster than the STI. Not sure about the FRS but it's probably similar to the EVO. I'm not sure if many cars have a faster rack.
Also, The Elise doesn't have 4 doors :)
subaruwrxfan, I would really love to see a review of an evo 8 jdm 6-speed gsr, I understand that the IX MR are completely different from the evo 8 gsr (6-speed) But I would still love to see an independant review.
Evo is a beast! 4g63t best 4 cylinder engine ever made in my opinion!
You should start mentioning back seat room in reviews like this. Would definitely help out a lot.
Matt: feels faster than it is,, vtec kicked in yo?!!🤔😂
I really like the STI, but I would go for an EVO because i prefer the interior.
Great review.
Off point on boost evo 9 turbo spools up at 3500
Evo 8 turbo spools up at 3200
Stock boost is 18psi, mitsubishi made it this way due to a law regarding advertise horsepower. Once you mod the evo vs a modded subaru the evo just dominates. If you want a daily car get a civic for comfort and mpg
Yes im an evo guy I got your quote earlier about rolling eyes lol
I daily the evo and to me I have no problems with the seats
great review i got mine back in april with 22,xxx miles and man that was a steal.
:/ your not supposed to full throttle... thats why theres "Lag" in the turbine. just fyi subaruwrxfan :)
What bhp specs did the yanks get?? Was it only the gsr models??
First person I've heard describing an Evo's steering as slow. Especially a IX.
This dude must be off lean fr no quicker steering than an evo
the way you described this car, is exactly the same as my stage 1 2011 wrx. Stiff, uncomfortable, laggy, but a ton of fun and makes a great noise. im going on 170k miles but i will keep this thing until it rusts out
Seems like his review of the Evo X was more in favor than the ix . Which is surprising. Usually people like the IX better than the X.
This kinda proves that subaru fans just aren't race-oriented LOL. Heavy clutch??
I hate the 2008 evo's. 2006 one is my favourite japanese car of all time.
if you want a suby or evo and your thinking of cranking up the horsepower with mods buy the evo.. their motor is strong with a weak transmission.. the sti motor is weak with a strong transmission and it's much cheaper to modify a transmission to handle power over an engine.. food for thought. plus with the suby every time you wanna put new engine parts in the whole motor has to be yanked out
BlakeSTI93 so the evo will make more hp than the wrx sti without the engine having problems? Kinda true ive seen more 800 hp evos than 800 hp wrx's but which would be better ? Wrx sti or evo 9
Carlos Ramirez evo is cheaper to build.. if you're gonna build a suby expect to drop dimes
BlakeSTI93 true
BlakeSTI93 you are a cool subie owner I love that my friend evo fan but need to accept that subarus are nice
evo mr's are definitely race cars for the street and normal evo 9 is more drivable
i just have one question: why in the FUCK would there be snow tires on that car right now? it looks like a sunny warm fall day outside to me
The Evo IX RS is possibly in my opinion the best Evo ever made. Why? Because the 5 spd is better than the 6 (because it can handle more power) and the RS is the lightest of the bunch.
You're right I was rolling my eyes the whole time I disagree with you on a lot of stuff and u not comparing an older evo to a new STI or even a lotus come on
Should have reviewed the 5-speed EVO 9 RS or the GSR...
The 6-speed on the EVO 9 MR is as strong as tofu, even Sheptrans don't mod them.
classic subaru fan comments 😒😒😒
KOENIGSEGG ANGELHOLM This is a classic evo Gaylord right here people
Matty Rex and maybe classic subie fanboi? hahaha
Hahaha
Those recaros are leaned way too far forward. They feel great when they’re leaned back. Feels way more comfortable with the seat leaned back but you’re still close enough to the cluster and wheel
Neve let a wrx fan review EVO?????😂who said that...
Mr subaruwrxfan always trying not to be biased but always compares to an wrx
i love these cars i currently have a 2003 lancer es but hopefully can get this over time
Mar Dale Moore looking to sell your Evo?lol
Evo.9 is the last real evo with the legendary 4g63
No gona lie after 3:29 min I had to pause it and research this guy because I had a feeling his an sti person and yup I was right. Why would you even review an Evo if you Gona talk crap for the first 3 min.. not even Gona watch the rest. Peace
the plastic is hard, I'll be darned! who knew, wise words that will echo through the ages..
Just want to point out that the Evo 9 has a quicker ratio rack than the STi.. So what he's saying about the steering doesn't really make sense. Maybe he's talking about the brand new STi? I absolutely LOVE the steering in my 9 MR, and have driven an 06 STi extensively. Not as good steering-wise for sure.
I think the evo 9 is a great car better then Subaru, the body is gorgeous, one thing that I have to say about this review is, this guy agrees and disagrees on everything he says makes no sense. Plus he doesn't put the car to the test to see how it really handles, I personally watched best motoring videos from Japan and I have to tell you that all the reviews about this car are awesome, this car handles really good and the value stays the same, in fact I like this one better then the newest model... Odak20🔰
Didn't see it thanks. Really good review by the way.
I actually own this car in Mdnight Club: Los Angeles on my PS3!!!!! Same year and model and I love it.
I just reviewed a 2013 last week. It's the same car aside from some minor exterior and interior differences.
Minor suspension mods an seat upgrades can easily change the issues your pointing out.... which most owners change anyway because who owns an import an leaves it stock? ID choose an Evo over an Sti anyday.
Great review. Absolutely love it.
he knows nothing
I have the evo 9 alcantera recaros in my turbo 300zx they are just lovely.
I just got my first evo 9 MR with a 5 speed transmission and it's a dream. But all of you dude need to chill with that X is better than IX shit Evos are all badass. But in my opinion the VI and V are the best looking if I could I get one and put the IX engine in it
you keep saying how laggy this evo is.. is it cause it is Bone stock an not stage 2 cobb tuned like nearly every sti you have reviewed! last time i checked evo comes onto full boost earlier then Wrx sti's ;)
I have a s2000 now. Looking at evos and STIs
After owning both an Evo and STI:
Evo IX = easy power, more power for same mods as STI, driver's car, better steering feel, larger turbo, more noisy, seats less confortable, closed-deck iron block.
STI = better DD, a bit quieter, insane off-boost torque, smaller stock turbo, bulletproof 6-speed, stock engine can't handle high boost.
Atreyu96 What about the handling? we're you ever able to upgrade the STI's handing to match the evo's? I've never driven a evo but I own an STI and it understeers when pushed to the limit.
amberlampz do you happen to watch Alonzo lerone's channel?
Most of the Subarus we're weak in handling untill the 2015+ models. They upped their game handling wise. My friend had a 2011 Sti and a 2015 WRX. He said the WRX handles better stock vs stock.
I see id change the seats well the passenger seat for my wife but id say changing the front seats to something mor comfortable would make it better for long trips and such. I really want one cuz i have a son so the fam could ride and still have the performance i want
As a STi owner I have always loved evos. I guess you could call me a awd turbo lover! ;)
i'm am a subie man mostly....but this evo is awsome
That's the same reason why a supercharger is better in every way instant power on demand no lag. Supercharger for LIFE! 💯
subaruwrxfan, keep up the good work. Enjoy the videos!
its 2021 and its really hard to find one evo that is stock. The only stock lancers I find is the non-evo models and automatic.
This dude needs to learn how to drive, he obviously doesn't get what this car does, he should try turning the wheel and see what happens, evo will turn Subaru will under steer.